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On Biden's day, flickers of Clinton

Posted by Scott Helman, Political Reporter August 23, 2008 04:03 PM

DENVER -- She may not be the one on stage today, but Hillary Clinton was an unmistakable presence up there in Springfield with Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

The message, the tone, the strategic posturing for the fall -- major elements of the first Obama-Biden event of the campaign were positively Clinton-esque. It was almost as if the populist campaign she waged in the last months of the Democratic primary race had been reignited under the bright afternoon sun of central Illinois.

In the primary, Clinton couldn't go an hour without pitching herself as the kind of "fighter" America's middle-class families need. Today, Obama pitched Biden as "the kind of fighter who I want by my side in the months and years to come."

"That’s what it’s going to take to win the fight for good jobs that let people live their dreams, a tax code that rewards work instead of wealth, and health care that is affordable and accessible for every American family," Obama said.

Obama also dubbed Biden "that scrappy kid from Scranton who beat the odds." Scranton, remember, was the home of Clinton's father's family, and she rooted herself firmly in that working-class ancestry to win big in in the Pennsylvania primary. It seems pretty clear Biden plans on doing the same.

In fact, he's already started. He didn't pass up the chance today to knock John McCain for his many houses, quipping that before McCain could understand families' kitchen-table issues, he'd have to figure out which of his own kitchen tables to sit at.

35 comments so far...
  1. What explains a working-class person's decision to favor McCain over Obama? I just can't understand. McCain is of the ruling-class and he will protect ruling-class interests, not the interests of the everyman. Can someone explain to me how on earth, if not for racial prejudice, a working-class person can see fit to vote for McCain? Please share your reasoning.

    Posted by Hilary Smith August 23, 08 04:40 PM
  1. Hillary who?

    Posted by Kev August 23, 08 04:42 PM
  1. if Obama wanted what the American people wanted, he would have run with Hillary

    Posted by Rebecca Ballinger August 23, 08 04:45 PM
  1. I am a Democrat, who cares how many houses McCain have, He worked his entire life for it and the life of his father in law. What are you jealous of, start working and look for a rich partner, maybe you'll have more houses than McCain when you reached that age, And think about it, B... Obama has millions already, by the time he reached 72, he might surpassed McCain in wealth. So fellow Democrat stop being jealous, work hard..hard..hard.

    Posted by Les August 23, 08 04:47 PM
  1. WELL IT'S OBAMA And Biden...that's o b it should BO Body Oder as they both stink..... so BO to the democrats this year in producing an arab as president...no way we can have that../ long time dermocrat... not this year.....artie

    Posted by artie burris August 23, 08 04:53 PM
  1. Biden a better fighter than Hillary qand he wont have to deal with her and Bill looking over his shoulder every day in the White House. If this is a sign of how he makes his decisions then great for America and our people. OBAMA BIDEN in 2008!

    YES WE CAN! SI SE PUEDE!

    Posted by Col Joe Bento US Army Retired August 23, 08 04:54 PM
  1. Hi,

    I watched both speeches and I didn't think about Clinton once.

    I'd rather not think about her for a long time.

    Posted by registered voter August 23, 08 05:00 PM
  1. Yeah. Biden is a real man of the people. He's 65, and has been in the Senate since he was 30. A lawyer (one of two on the ticket), he's never worked a day since. A pox on all the lawyers! They think that, if you pass a law saying something, it becomes reality. Pass a law outlawing drugs and the drug problem disappears. Pass a law making it illegal to be a terrorist, and terrorists disappear. NOT! What can you do to someone who is willing to kill himself to kill innocent people that is worse than what he is willing to do to himself? Give him the death sentence?

    Posted by Danny Ross August 23, 08 05:03 PM
  1. I haven't decided if I'll skip voting this year or vote for McCain, but the fact of the matter is I will not vote for Obama. Clinton was the only logical choice for president and without her on the ticket Obama can kiss my vote goodbye.

    Posted by Colleen August 23, 08 05:06 PM
  1. Hillary portrayed her past like she came from humble beginnings but she grew up in the affluent burbs of Chicago in a Republican household. Both Biden and Barack actually come from lower to middle class and are much better suited to fight for it. It's time to get away from Clintonian Centrist politics and effect some change before Corporate America rules absolute.

    Posted by Dave August 23, 08 05:07 PM
  1. Yeap quite a pair up there today Obama and biden. Obama used and abused her with the 3am text and good old joe basically plagarized her stuff.

    Posted by rachel August 23, 08 05:11 PM
  1. Freshness,change??If Obama was going to go old school,then he may has well have chosen Hillary.That was his only ticket to maybe winning.

    Posted by iknow August 23, 08 05:15 PM
  1. Sad. He's trying to get a Clinton out of a Biden. Or trying to make Biden into Clinton. He's very misguided if he can't see the difference in calibre between the two. Either that or he's blinded by his hatred and resentment. He's risking the millions of Clinton supporters to get a lame, stupid version of her out of a risible old highly partisan gasbag with hair plugs, and nothing but foreign policy specialization.

    Posted by AsperGirl August 23, 08 05:16 PM
  1. we are on your back Obama its history in the making. Everything is possible

    Posted by william August 23, 08 05:19 PM
  1. Hey, Obama.....you will have to "change" your campaign slogan now that you have selected an Washington oldtimer of many, many years, more than McCain. You will have to paint over your slogan on your airplane and instead repaint the United States of America flag on it. You are no longer allowed to use "Change", or did you mean the change we will get back from our paychecks after we pay the taxes you propose?

    As far as Biden, is he going to sleep in your and Michelle's bedroom so that he can answer that 3 a.m. phone call? You are a bit insecure, huh, about foreign policy or you would not have selected Biden. Usually the president is the one who makes the foreign policy decisions.

    Posted by Marty Johnson August 23, 08 05:26 PM
  1. Just so I can make you look stupid. Waaaa! I want a recount. My guy didnt win so it must be wrong!

    Posted by Jrab August 23, 08 05:29 PM
  1. Today was a good start to the Obama-Biden campaign, but it will be tough slogging against the neocon-Republican slime machine. They need to hit McCain on those areas where the press has given him a free pass. Biden's net worth is -$300,000. That almost equals the $312,000 pasoff McCain got from Charles Keating. People don't seem to remember McCain was one of the shamed Keating Five.

    Posted by Saxxon Domela August 23, 08 05:30 PM
  1. This was a strong event. And, finally . . . finally, finally . . . there emerged the central focus of the campaign . . .

    THE TRUTH . . .

    THE UNDENIABLE FACT that John McCain HAS NO PLAN FOR OUR BELOVED COUNTRY because HE BELIEVES THERE IS NO PROBLEM . . .

    And, of course, there IS no problem for GW Bush, Dick Cheney, John McCain and Mitt Romney. Between them they've enough personal living space to provide housing for

    And he has supported George W. Bush's blowhard and adventurist foreign "policy" while STRONGLY SUPPORTING "tax the poor and pay the rich" policies that have bankrupted working folks.

    OBAMA-BIDEN '08!!!

    Posted by Arlo Scott Kennedy August 23, 08 05:34 PM
  1. I was, and still am, a little skeptical of Obama, however I feel much more comfortable having Biden as his running mate. I am still a true "Hillary for President" person, as I think she was the most qualified. We shall see if all Obama's promises comes true. I think it will be up to our Congressmen and Senators..
    Don't you????

    Posted by Bernice Rocray August 23, 08 05:35 PM
  1. Is there any chance that Hillary will run as an independant? That's what I want.

    Posted by Kathy August 23, 08 05:40 PM
  1. Senator Obama will never get my vote. He showed himself during the primary and now has had to morph all his views to mirror what Senator Clinton's were all along the way. The Democratic Party heads did their best to keep Senator Clinton out. There will be a price to pay and it will affect all of us. "Junk yard dog", no thanks!

    Posted by kt August 23, 08 05:43 PM
  1. Joe Biden huh. Who says plagiarism doesn't pay.

    cmsix

    Posted by cmsix August 23, 08 05:48 PM
  1. Obama made a big mistake. Being dismissive of Hillary was not only lacking political suave but lacked the kind of human decency he so 'arduously admires' but so effectively betrays. Hillary supporters are urged to unite and vote for her by write in on the November ballot.

    Posted by CICI August 23, 08 05:49 PM
  1. Thank God Barack picked a motormouth as his VP!

    Posted by Jebson August 23, 08 05:56 PM
  1. I am just so disappointed that Barack did not pick Hillary. This is the first time since I was 18 years old that I will not be voting in Nov.

    Posted by MR August 23, 08 06:02 PM
  1. Al Gore talked that way, too, towards the end of his run for the presidency. I did not find him convincing. I did not find her convincing, either. Biden convinced me. He went beyond talking points, as though he actually knows what he is talking about. That's pretty rare these days.

    Posted by Alex Mac Donald August 23, 08 06:02 PM

  1. During the Democratic primaries -- my 1s choice for prez. was Sen. Biden. With his selection with VP, I feel no "negative impact" from his selection by Obama. In fact, the selection/thinking exhibited by Obama in such a choice substantiates that both are worthy candidates for prez.

    George,

    Posted by George Shu August 23, 08 06:03 PM
  1. McCain is rich- so what? Rich people work hard to earn their money. I'm always happy when I see someone doing so well in life. It's not a crime to be rich. Think positive and be happy for who you are and what you have. If you want more- go work some more. I am a democrat and I'm so sick and tire of our party keep wanting us to stay poor and dependent on government for everything. They are using us, the poor people, for their own political avantage. They want us to stay poor forever. We are like puppets to them. The sad thing is we actually believe that we have no power to change our lives so we dependent on their empty words for everything.

    Posted by Meemi August 23, 08 06:06 PM
  1. Looks like a good choice, but like i said before, i will save my vote for HILLARY 2012.

    Posted by JUAN August 23, 08 06:09 PM
  1. obama has lost my vote i cant stand biden i will now vote for mccain although i am democrat

    Posted by kay young August 23, 08 06:12 PM
  1. Biden is great!! but Obama is still an empty suit. Delegates should dump Obama and ignite the Hillary light for America.

    Posted by raoul August 23, 08 06:14 PM
  1. ...and Biden's house is so large that he would need a map to find the kitchen!

    It's time for some substance from both sides. Cheap one liners are easy. Policy development is not. Off to your respective kitchens and cook-up a storm of recipes from which voters can choose. Thus far the menu has been limited and bland!

    Posted by Mike Dean August 23, 08 06:18 PM
  1. And now we have two empty suits.

    Posted by David Sonnenthal August 23, 08 06:50 PM
  1. Obama is a parrot. He lacks personality, conviction and original thinking. What a hole the Dems have gotten themselves in!

    Posted by mk August 23, 08 06:58 PM
  1. I think Biden is definitely someone that can help Obama understand foreign policies however two legislators in office make me very nervous, no administrative experience! Let's not forget that this is still the President/CEO job for the biggest bureaucratic machine... I'm very disappointed Hillary was not even asked for the job, not that I wanted her to accept but she deserved the respect. I am a democrat and I will vote for Obama just for the purpose of getting out the Bushes!

    Posted by Dominican Girl August 24, 08 01:25 PM
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