Clinton backers still wary of Obama

Kind of sad... given that McCain and Palin represent the opposite of what Hillary's supporters wanted. I hate to think that its racial... I'm hoping that most of America has gone way past that bump and is intelligent enough to vote with their brains. And yes... I know what Charles Barkley said and as an old white republican who is now supporting Obama... I guess my euphoria for Obama is over-riding my naivete. Sad.

I don't know exactly what the Clintons are doing for the cause, but it's certainly not newsworthy because all we see on TV is the candidates and Palin. No fiery speeches from Hill or Bill that are covered on TV or even the political pages. You'd almost think they are watching this from afar, and hope McCain inherits the mess so she can run in 2012.

I was one of the group wary about Obama. Then McCain nominated Palin. I don't understand how any thinking woman could be anything but insulted and furious at the temerity he showed in thinking that one woman is interchangeable with another. I for one would not vote for anyone just because she's a woman, and supported Hillary because of all the qualities she has that I admire. I hope that Obama will squeak by to a win and thus prove anyone who supported Palin because of anger about Hillary was sadly mistaken if they thought she was a good substitute. She wasn't and isn't. I've yet to hear of anything admirable about Palin and doubt that I will. I'm hoping that good sense will catch up with anyone who still thinks they'll vote for McCain.

I agree, pocobueno. That is exactly the reason we hear nothing from them.

So if the Clinton supporters are not behind Obama I guess they plan to support the McPain Party? Do they really plan to stand by and watch gramps and the cheerleader get elected and drag our country through another 8 years of Republican destruction? That would make Clinton supporters about as dumb as they get and wouldn't be doing Hill/Bill any favors.

I'll own up to being a Clinton supporter now leaning towards McCain. I've always said that McCain might be the only Republican I could support. My aversion to Obama is NOT racial; I'm white but my spouse is black so I think we can put rest to that notion. What I like about McCain (and liked about Bill Clinton) was the willingness to reach across the aisle for the best talent. 60 Minutes Sunday night, McCain was asked who he would like to see in charge of the SEC. He said a Democrat. I respect that he will choose the best individual to do a job, regardless of party. Bill Clinton did the same and I expected the same philosophy from Hillary.

I want to continue to think and be optimistic about the many issues that this country now faces. I want to hope that the people of this great country will get on board to cast their vote for candidates who are willing, able and qualified to lead this nation in the directions that it show go. We cannot afford to let this opportunity pass us by. There is too much at stake. We must continue to compaign and tell the people we need a change, a change that will get our country back on track. A change that will ensure that every Americans, no matter what the ethnic background, can live in true prosperity.

It is a puzzlement. I have yet to hear a coherent argument that would explain why Hillary supporters would support McCain. I hear people talk about being offended about the amount of sexism in the right wing and main stream media during the primaries, but I haven't seen any of that tied to Obama's campaign. If anyone thinks there's a large contingency of Obama supporters who are voting for him because he's a man rather than a woman, that's just crazy. I know there are some man haters out there who were deeply disappointed in Hillary's loss, but McCain is sort of a man too, so that doesn't work. I've heard some say it's about experience for them, but Obama + Biden is greater than McCain + Palin any day, so that doesn't work. Pro-choice? Pro-real health care for everyone? Intellegence? -- It's all Obama all the way.

It seems like the Hillary supporters were more for Hillary than for the issues. If McCain/Palin win, it will set women back 50 years. Palin is a sock puppet, and apparently only interested in what she wants.

American women young and old - wake up!!! Align with Obama now.

I agree that McCain has been one of the few people to "reach across the aisle" to get things done in Washington over the last 12 years. But bipartisanship for its own sake doesn't help: Over the last two weeks, history has proven McCain and the deregulation hawks wrong on the economy. What's more, McCain is now exploiting the loopholes in the campaign finance regulations he "reached across the aisle" to get done (google "McCain Victory 08 Fund"). Just because you can get both Democrats and Republicans to sign onto an idea doesn't make it a good one.

While I often disagreed with him, I used to respect John McCain. He was his own man. That's no longer the case.

demleaningrepublican:

It's not about hiring practices, it's about issues, knowledge and judgment. If you really think the GOP would let McCain pick Cuomo (remember when he wanted to pick Lieberman as his VP?) you are dreaming.

Wake up, there's still time to save this country.

Dear demleaning,
Thanks for putting that in. I think I understand, but aside from Hillary, isn't Obama the most Bill Clinton-like person on the ticket? Extremely intelligent, open to all good ideas that can be proven to actually benefit the American middle-class, great speaker and leader, an advocate for intelligent diplomacy, cautious of war but willing to do what needs to be done. Obama also has been by far the most civil and respectful of his opponents, sometimes even to his own detriment. I too once liked McCain, but those days are over. The truth is no longer in him, his VP choice was just silly and cynical, his principle organizers and backers are exactly those who brought us the previous eight years of unjustified war and economic bust.

"Let's not play games. What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come."
-Barack Obama on "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos

I've been on a blog site of hysterical Hillary supporters who simply cannot get over the fact that Obama beat her. Hysterical to this day! And to add insult to the injury, Obama did not select her for a VP (the fact that Hillary herself was cold and did not want to be VP appears to be meaninless to them). That blog has been going on and on for weeks and getting more and more emotional. Now they seem to be trashing Oprah for it... like she had anything to do with it. They are hysterical... no lie.

They are now voting for Palin.. it seems the inital motive out of spite, more than anything... though they appear convinced she is what "Obama deserves".. aka revenge on Obama.
I don't know if this is one of the recent appeals of the Reb party-- but it appears it has more to do with dis-like than like, really.

McCain might have reached across the aisle in the past, but 2000 McCain and 2008 McCain are two very different creatures. In order to win, he shilled to the ultra-conservative base, and is now participating in the same doubletalk that Bush has been guilty of for the last 8 years. People who think that we'd be getting the moderate McCain of years past are deluding themselves.

Dem leaning-

I totally agree with you on all accounts....I am voting for McCain because like Bill Clinton, I am confident McCain will reach across the aisle and have not only Republicans, but Democrats too.

Please, demleaningrepublican, look at the facts. Yes, McCain IN THE PAST has reached across the aisle to Democrats in order to get things done, but he is NOT the same John McCain. Now it seems he will do anything to win, including lying. And do you really want a neophyte like Palin to run the country if something happens to him? Not only is she a neophyte, she is a radical conservative reminiscent of George W. Do you really want 4-8 more years of the same? Do you not see where our country is right now? I liked Hillary too, but you know what? Obama beat her, and if he can beat the Clinton machine, he can hopefully beat McCain, who doesn't even know how many houses he owns (7). (He also owns 13 cars.) He is old, out of touch, and can't even use the Internet. Yes, he is a war hero, but so was John Kerry, and look where that got him.

To demleaningrepublican, Sen. Obama also reaches across the aisle. Did you forget that he travelled with Sen. Hagel to Iraq, called on Republican former finance people to meet with him to discuss the economy, cosponsored a bill with Senator Lugar? That's also reaching across the aisle. It has been documented by some of McCain's colleagues (both Democrat & Republican) that he will only reach across the aisle if it TOTALLY AGREES with his point of view. Anyone can reach across when people totally agree with you, but what about when compromise is needed?

I am not racist. I have voted democrat every election since I was 18. I do not think Obama is qualified to be president of the United States. The more you call me a racist, the less I will even consider voting for him. The more you push me out, the more I will consider voting for McCain.

We need a change at the DNC before I come back.

I'm also a Democrat who will be voting Republican for the first time... and yes also a HillSupporter. I hate that people are already say ing that if Obama looses this Election.. it will be because he is black.. NO... it will be because people don't have same vission as he has. I personaly don't believe in the man nor trust what he says. In my view... he is not a new type of politics. I am a Mexican American male who is proudly married to a Afro-American female. And yes... DNC also played a role in the way i'm voting.

Bitter partisans such as some who write on blogs such as these who claim that they can find nothing admirable about Sarah Palin are being transparently dishonest. Their problem is that they are all liberal pro-choice feminists, while Sarah is a happy warrior, pro-life, accomplished, attractive and part of a loving family. For that, she's gets the wrath of those of lesser stock.

News flash. HILLARY IS NOT GOING TO BE PRESIDENT IN 2008. Get over it already.

What scares me the most about this election is that McCain might not last the 8 years predicted and then what, rah, rah for the team, here comes Soccer Mom Barbie? Every time I see Sarah I expect pompoms and a cheering section doing their routine. What was McCain thinking?

I too am a former Hillary Clinton supporter who is voting for McCain. Hillary and McCain represent the moderates in each of their parties. It was exactly what I liked about Hillary. There are many reasons why I do not support Obama for President, and none of them have to do with race. Personally, it would feel good to vote for someone black for president, just as it felt good to support a woman for that office. But I care too much about my country to vote for on the basis of a "feel good" moment. Our country is at a critical juncture and we need some who understands that it takes more than rhetoric to lead us. It takes character, substance and experience. That is what Hillary Clinton had and that is what John McCain has.

Demleaningrepub, I'm with you. For the record I am a female independent and a minority. I would have voted for Hillary. I think she would have been the most effective Chief Exec of all (Repub or Dem) who ran in the primaries. She would get the job done. I cannot say the same for Obama -- I just have not seen enough substance. McCain made an awful choice for his VP but between he and Obama, I think McCain has a better track record on working with others in pushing reforms. I just hope he does not die on us.

I also am a Clinton supporter who is leaning towars McCain and I have always voted Democratic in the past. I as a whole have more faith and trust in McCain's experience and background than Obama's. I also can truly say I am disappointed in Obama's choice for a VP. Why on earth did he not choose Clinton? It makes me question his decision-making process and whether he has good judgement at all. How can he have ignored the 18 million people who voted for Clinton? I also can say my motives have nothing to do with race. My last boyfriend was bi-racial. I also watched both conventions and I much preferred McCain & Palin's approach - everything from what they said to how they said it. Obama comes off as more elitist. And I can say to Oaklynne above, I am not dumb. I graduated Magna Cum Laude from BU and I don't consider it respectful to call anyone Gramps and Cheerleader, especially the Gramps comment regarding a man who served is country for your freedom. It all comes down to respect and trust at the end of the day and I personally place mine in the hands of McCain & Palin.

Hey demleaningrepublican, whats wrong with you? Sorry, but I could understand you leaning McCain before he picked Palin. Even your argument, should make you not lean to McCain... I also was leaning McCain, but after he put getting elected before the American people..Never ! he sold us out.. And what i don't understand is how everyone else doesn't see it in this way.. Putting a person 2nd in line to the most powerfully office in the world with little or no attributes solely to get elected (because she is a women), is down right criminal. What if she became president and the crisis of Russia and Georgia happen.. She advocated going in and somehow intervening on their behalf.... I was hoping that when we nuke each other, it would be for a better reason than some black sea country where most Americans have no idea where it is.... Come on wake up and smell the coffee... Don't think dem don't think repub.. think for yourself dam it !!

The worst thing that can happen to this country is having O' BUMMER as the president. He can't even get the support or be trusted by the people of his own party why should independents and replublicans trust/vote for him? If O' BUMMER wins it will be a BUMMER.

Will one of these two please show me something resembling presidential? And I don't mean in a divide the nation and hope that our side outnumbers the others in key states rovian presidency way.

What an interesting set of responses.

"I don't know exactly what the Clintons are doing for the cause, but it's certainly not newsworthy because all we see on TV is the candidates and Palin. No fiery speeches from Hill or Bill that are covered on TV or even the political pages. You'd almost think they are watching this from afar, and hope McCain inherits the mess so she can run in 2012."

I am an avid Hillary supporter, and I personally believe that Hillary sincerely wants Barack to win. I honestly don't know what more she could do to support this man. The Obama camp is reportedly pleased with her performances, and I get far too many emails from her encouraging me to donate to Obama. Most recently, I received an appeal to travel to a battleground state to support the man. Bill Clinton has been on Letterman and The View discussing the economy and the election. During these appearances, he clearly stated his preference for Barack. Just because it isn't newsworthy, their support shouldn't be considered insignificant.

By the way, I am also supporting McCain-Palin. Obama is a fine man; however, he's no longer acting like the new-kind-of-politics, change-we-can-believe-in candidate. That candidate was respectful of Hillary. That candidate had groundbreaking ideas and would have surely nominated a VP equally young, vibrant, and forward thinking. It was that kind of candidate who earned the Democratic nomination. Fauxbama has been running an old type of politics campaign with a war-supporting VP nominee from the old guard. The shift from transcendent leader to old-school politician is an offense to Hillary and her supporters. I don't know who this Fauxbama is. Under this uncertainty, I will gladly choose a candidate who is a known commodity.

Dems supporting Obama will you answer this question?

Obama was brought up with Frank Marshall Davis a communist party member who Obama named as Frank in his bio. Obama's maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham was also communist leaning and stated of Davis' relationship with BHO, he was a "strong black male figure" with a "positive" influence over BHO until he left for college.

BHO's 20yr. relationship as a spiritual mentor Rev. Wright who spews anti-American tirades from the pulpit and his relationship with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers who attempted to bomb the Capitol, the Pentagon and a police station are on put on hold until after the election.

So the question is do you honestly believe you can vote for Obama when he's been surrounded by communists, socialists, Marxists from his formative years through the present?

I don't want a man who learned his world view on the knee of a communist having the keys to the White House.

Do you?

Any Hillary supporter who votes for McCain instead of Obama is a racist. Plain and simple.

Conversation over.

I find it amusing that so many angry Dems don't get what so many find appealing about Sarah Palin. It is about who she is, not what she is. It is about her qualifications, but not in the strict sense of a being a VP, but rather how she has lived her life. She is an accomplished woman, a person of faith, married to an oil worker, raised a large family (that has problems like any other), college graduate, PTA member, mayor, governor, and so on... People identify with that, they see their own family and life as being not so different. And how do the Hillary and undecided voters see Obama? Elitist, arrogant, condescending, untrustworthy...you hear it all the time from the white working class Hillary Dems and some independents.

Anyway, anyone would have to admit that a fairly significant amount of Hillary voters were voting for her primarily because she's a woman. So why would it be so shocking that they now decide to vote for McCain/Palin for the same reason?
Live by the sword, die by the sword.

And it would be wise of Obama and the Dems out there not to disparage them for considering Palin. Do you really think insulting the voters you are trying to win over is going to get them on your side? Bill Clinton just came out and said it himself, they shouldn't go after Palin, and that he understands why she is appealing. But go ahead Obamaniacs, keep attacking her, and watch the lead in the polls keep slip, slipping away...

My only comment to Hillary supporters that are going to vote for McCain is that you are completely contradicting yourselves and her by your reasoning. She wants you to vote for Obama okay? All the issues, views, and changes she worked very hard to push in her campaign are now not going to occur if you support McCain/Palin. For McCain to say he would do anything now is a ploy to get elected (see how he changed his stance on de-regulation) and you are falling for it. He selected Palin just to trick you into voting for him solely because his VP choice is a woman and not because she agrees with ANYTHING Hillary stands for which is really sad for the state of women these days. Are you really willing to trade in all that you believe to just get a woman near the Presidency or are you so easily fooled that you'll not only punish Obama but Hillary as well? I can guarantee that if Obama loses she will be the first to receive the blame whether it is fair or not and now you have ruined any chances of ever getting a woman in the President's office! Unless McCain passes which is not unlikely to occur!

For a $10 million debt payoff Hillary would endorse Hitler. Who says she can't be bought.

Clinton Backers::::

1 Question......What about Hillary Clintons life's work of Universal Healthcare and Comprehensive Educational Reform will be realized under a McCain administration......

Answer: None......McCain wants to incentivize private healthcare for people to have them steer away from group coverage, therefore making discrimination for pre-existing conditions skyrocket.....all paid for by a tax credit.......and for education....go to his website to see rhetoric only......the same stuff "more books, more teachers" obama has figures and an agenda.....

This ex Hillary supporter changed to Independent status, because of DNC's FLA/MI un democratic voting debacle and their shoving Obama thru even though Hillary had more votes..Obama does not represent the moderate view that Hillary understands. I will support the Republican ticket not because I am a conservative, but because McCain has a resume, an independent streak and he had the guts to pick a new generation woman governor! If Obama had picked Hillary, that would have been change..he decided to go mainstream w/ Biden...so lite resume/empty rhetoric does not cut it!

Oh my, you people are blinded by words that Gramps is saying to just get elected. Lets start with the choice of VP: Did he pick her because she was the best qualified or to attempt to win an election ? That is a simple answer. Second: What Dems would he choose to fill the cabinet ? Joe Liberman ? Yeah, I'm sure this is what he is talking about. PEOPLE WAKE UP don't be fooled do you want another 4 years of what you have swallowed for the past eight ? If so vote republican for real change there is only one candidate.

Hey Poufrog, I am staying home on election day. I worked for Hillary, and cannot possibly vote for McCain/Palin. Obama and his people made a rookie mistake. Hillary would have guarantted a win. I am staying home since my vote doesn't count in Massachusetts, anyway.

Still waiting for a woman on the ticket.

To demleaningrepulican,

Do you really want the Supreme Court to put women back 60 or 70 years? The SC is on a knife edge, and so is the separation of government branches and balance of power. I doubt you will like the america of the future if McCain-Palin win.

To those blaming the Repubs. for the banking crisis we're in now, wasn't your Democratic guy Jimmy Carter who pioneered deregulation?

McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five

The story of "the Keating Five" has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate

By Tom Fitzpatrick
Published on November 29, 1989

You're John McCain, a fallen hero who wanted to become president so desperately that you sold yourself to Charlie Keating, the wealthy con man who bears such an incredible resemblance to The Joker. Obviously, Keating thought you could make it to the White House, too.

He poured $112,000 into your political campaigns. He became your friend. He threw fund raisers in your honor. He even made a sweet shopping-center investment deal for your wife, Cindy. Your father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was cut in on the deal, too.

Nothing was too good for you. Why not? Keating saw you as a prime investment that would pay off in the future.

So he flew you and your family around the country in his private jets. Time after time, he put you up for serene, private vacations at his vast, palatial spa in the Bahamas. All of this was so grand. You were protected from what Thomas Hardy refers to as "the madding crowd." It was almost as though you were already staying at a presidential retreat.

Like the old song, that now seems "Long ago and far away."

Since Keating's collapse, you find yourself doing obscene things to save yourself from the Senate Ethics Committee's investigation. As a matter of course, you engage in backbiting behavior that will turn you into an outcast in the Senate if you do survive.

They say that if you put five lobsters into a pot and give them a chance to escape, none will be able to do so before you light the fire. Each time a lobster tries to climb over the top, his fellow lobsters will pull him back down. It is the way of lobsters and threatened United States senators.

And, of course, that's the way it is with the Keating Five. You are all battling to save your own hides. So you, McCain, leak to reporters about who did Keating's bidding in pressuring federal regulators to change the rules for Lincoln Savings and Loan.

When the reporters fail to print your tips quickly enough--as in the case of your tip on Michigan Senator Donald Riegle--you call them back and remind them how important it is to get that information in the newspapers.

The story of "the Keating Five" has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate. The outcome will be decided, not in a courtroom, but probably on national television.

Those who survive will be the sociopaths who can tell a lie with the most sincere, straight face. You are especially adept at this.

Last Friday night, on The John McLaughlin Show, which features well-known Washington journalists, the subject of the Keating Five was discussed. Panelist Jack Germond suggested that three of the Keating Five were probably already through in politics.

So you spend your days desperately trying to make sure you will be one of the survivors. You keep volunteering to go on radio and television stations to protest your innocence. Last week you made ABC's Nightline.

Not long before that you somehow managed to get James Kilpatrick, the national columnist, to write a favorable paragraph about you. Last Sunday morning, you made it to national television again; this time on ABC's This Week With David Brinkley. You smiled at the panel with your usual studied insouciance. Sitting next to you was Senator John Glenn of Ohio.

Brinkley, Sam Donaldson, and George Will were the interrogators.
It was a sobering scene. There you sat with Glenn, both sweating before the cameras, waiting to answer questions: two badly tarnished American icons.

No one forgets that Glenn was the first American astronaut to orbit the Earth. You won't let anyone forget that you were a prisoner of war. But you have played that tune too long. By now your constant reminders about your war record make you seem like a modern version of Arthur Miller's tragic failure Willy Loman.

Clearly, both you and Glenn sold your fame for Charles Keating's money.

It was a Faustian bargain. It was also a bad joke on the rest of us and a disaster for many old people who lost their life's savings to Keating.

The money was never really Keating's to give. But he never would have got his hands on it if you and the rest of the Keating Five didn't halt the government takeover for two long years while Keating's people continued their looting.

And now, the tab for the Savings and Loan heist must be paid from taxpayer pockets.

On Sunday, Senators Dennis DeConcini, Alan Cranston, and Riegle refused offers to appear on the Brinkley show. What must we make of that?

You, the closest of them to Keating and the deepest in his debt, have chosen the path of the hard sell. You may even make it out of the pot, but to many, your protestations of innocence taste like gall.

You are determined to bluff your way. You will stick to your story that you were acting to help a constituent and intended to do nothing improper. The very fact you attended the meeting makes you guilty, just as every man who entered the Brinks vault went to prison.

McCain will win Mass by 10, you watch. Bye bye kool aid drinkers

How can you say that Hilliary is "starting a grassroots" effort to get her supports behind Senator Obama. By definition, (Random House Unabridged Dictionary) "grassroots" means of, pertaining to, or involving the common people . . . " A political LEADER cannot start a "grassroots" effort. Such an effort must start with the actual group base, hence the "roots" portion of the word "grassroots." Apparently, HRC's "roots" aren't convinced they have Senator Obama's full support, and are, therefore, withholding theirs.

I was a Hillary supporter even before she announced her candidacy. This November I'll vote for John McCain.

Barack Obama reminds me of a young Jimmy Carter: bright, articulate, vague and lacking substance. Does anyone remember the Iran hostage crisis, the energy crisis and the laughable "moral equivalent of war"?

I am at a loss to understand how Clinton supporters expect to see the policies for which Hillary fought so hard realized through the election of John McCain.

The policy differences between Clinton and Obama are negligible. The policy differences between Clinton and McCain are gigantic. To switch one's vote from Clinton to McCain is to betray whatever principles you were pretending to vote for..

Seriously, every McCain voter is like a battered wife. Eight years of catastrophe, and they're right back at the trough for four more. Unfathomable that so many people in this country are that sad and stupid.

NewsFlash!

Most of the people claiming to be Hillary supporters voting form McCain on this board have NEVER been Democrats and never will be. They are just Republican trolls trying to get a rise out of the Dem bloggers. Don't feed into their "I've ALWAYS voted democrat but..." BS. Any real democrat who supported Hillary will vote democratic if they are actually voting on the issues. I was never a big fan of Hillary but if she won the nomination, she would have my support because of her political beliefs. Not that she was a woman or a black man or wears a flag pin or has five kids and hunts moose.

"What scares me the most about this election is that McCain might not last the 8 years predicted and then what, rah, rah for the team, here comes Soccer Mom Barbie? Every time I see Sarah I expect pompoms and a cheering section doing their routine. What was McCain thinking?"

Spoken like a true fat and ugly girl

Hillary voters here who will write her name in. We can do that in Massachusetts. If it were a swing state we'd vote Obama but we can indulge our petty anger at him here so we will.

We will never forgive the Obama campaign for joining with the anti-Democratic media to viciously attack the Clintons as racist. We cannot recall a Democratic candidate doing that to another Democrat, let alone to people with the impeccable race-relation credentials as the Clintons -- one of whom just happens to be the Last Two-Term Democratic President Since FDR, in case people have forgot.

Anyone who thinks Obama is a liberal has spent too much time listening to his rhetoric and not enough looking at his record. He was the least progressive of the three main Democratic candidates. And he never had a chance of winning Florida or Texas. He probably won't carry Ohio. Hillary would have won all three -- heck, she came within 20,000 votes of getting as many votes as McCain in his home state in the primary.

Women from all walks of life, and across the political spectrum, would have flocked to vote for Hillary -- and there's more women, and they vote. Yes, the same women who may now vote for Palin. The bottom line is, Hillary couldn't have lost -- and Republicans knew it.

The mainstream media tricked Democrats into chasing out of the race the one candidate who would have beat McCain in favor of the one they knew couldn't win. Now they've set about convincing them that it's their own racism at fault -- and the latest Big Lie is working. It's a tragic farce.

I cannot BELIEVE there are actual Clinton supporters intending to vote for McCain. Here in Massachusetts nonetheless. This is the most disheartening thing regarding this election I've read in a long long time. You are once again fooled by the right wing brainwashing machine. If you want 4-8 years of NO CHANGE, or maybe even REGRESSION, then go for it, vote for McCain. If you actually want an INTELLIGENT human being that can think on his feet, that will at least TRY to implement change into this mess Bush et al have created, vote for Barack. At least Barack's proposals don't include spending most of our tax dollars on blowing stuff up in a foreign country and then rebuilding it, with the defense contractors who are owned and supported by so called "conservatives" reaping the benefits. "Conservatives" have spent taxpayer dollars in massive amounts, only to have their cronies benefit with guaranteed gov't contracts, while infrastructure in THIS country goes to pot. Isn't it inherent in the word "conservative" NOT to spend money extravagantly. Hypocrites. And you're all buying in ONCE AGAIN.

This calling people a racist if they do not vote for Obama is wearing thin like everything else about his campaign. And if his supporters are people who put tags on people such as "gramps" and "cheerleader" then maybe that is all his campaign is about for the Obama supporters. I think I will vote for the bipartisan gramps and his cheerleader running mate. Better than voting for a puppet of the Democratic Party.

All Senator Hilliary Supporters like me if we support McCain-Palin we're not a true Democrat we all on this together.

No more. No way. No McCain. No Palin

OBAMA IS MY PRESIDENT GET IT.....

I think it's irresponsible to present the lead sentence to this article in a way that does not convey the true proportion of the shift.

The lead sentence states:

"...her supporters are still not falling in behind former rival Barack Obama,"

This is a blanket statement making it sound as though there has been a seismic shift. Particularly dangerous on the web as many tend to skim and read only the initial statement or paragraph. Consider the impact of how you present copy to make sure it conveys the facts.

I - and everyone I know - are writing in Hilary's name. Eighteen million voters should NEVER have been ignored. We have truly hit "bottom" with the so-called choices between the Republican and Democratic parties. Obama has changed his statement/stand on every issue and chose "Foot in Mouth" as his running mate. McCain does not have a platform and chose the "Anti Woman" with her own set of baggage. Neither party has any definitive plans for cleaning up the messes...perhaps they DESERVE to win with the country in the shambles it's in. From the beginning, only Hilary had plausible solutions to issues and gave us detailed steps as to how she would carry them out. Again, I am writing in Hilary's name -- wouldn't it be something if she won by write-in ballot!!!!!

well said disgusted Dem!

On election day, I will write-in Hillary Clinton for President and Barack Obama for Vice-President. It's the only option that feels right for me.

It just goes to show that sadly policy has very little to do with how most people vote. Clinton and Obama are virtually identical in their policies. I would have enthusiastically supported Hillary if she had won, but she didn't so now I am on board with Obama. For some reason, Americans are TOO STUPID to realize just how similar they are/were. I say this with all due respect.

Either Barrack is chicken do do (add the expletive) or HRC refused to be his running mate. He blew the election if she had agreed in private. If so, he is more stupid than he looks. It wasn't meant to be. Palin is obviously the right Presidential material.

Generally, Obama's politics are a bit to the right of Hillary's. McCain's politics are quite right wing in general.

Look at health care. Hillary wants to force everyone to buy health insurance, Obama does not. McCain wants to tax employer-provided health care benefits to discourage employers from providing health care ... wants everyone to buy their own non-group package, or not if they don't want heath insurance.

It comes down to lack of intelligence on the part of Hillary supporters, I'm afraid. They make their decisions based on very superficial factors, like age and appearance, rather than whom the candidate surrounds himself with and what his policies are.

Miah said:" I also watched both conventions and I much preferred McCain & Palin's approach - everything from what they said to how they said it. "

So, Miah, what exactly did Palin say that has so impressed you as a "Magna Cum Laude grad of BU"?? You're the one who sounds elitist. And, BTW, that charge of elitism you make against Obama is the same old tired ploy as that used recently by the ultra-elitist Lynne de Rothschild. Why not just admit that you are a Republican?

I completely agree with Steve. In this election people have GOT to look at the issues, if you were in line with hilary during the primary then you should be backing obama now. There is such a vast gap between the ideas that John Mccain and Barack Obama are proposing, it is absurd to make a decision based off revenge or even personality. When you look at mccains proposal's he is literally step for step with the bush administration. Take a step back, look at the the candidates positions and make an INFORMED decision, not one out of spite.

To all Hillary supporters who vote for McCain:
You deserve whatever a more (potentially) right wing Supreme Court rules; you deserve to have business interests win over human needs; you deserve to have continued war in Iraq and Afghanistan; you deserve to have health care denied; you deserve to have your civil liberties curtailed; you deserve to have a candidate who chose religious extremism over thoughtful policy makers when selecting a vice president; you deserve to have your children and grandchildren pay for the war and the Wall Street bailouts; you deserve the Maverick who is not the same candidate you might have liked in 2000. In short, you are either spoiled entitled voters or so angry that you cannot see what a Republican administration will do for the next 4 years.

Those of you who say that you think that Obama is not qualified to be president and that you are going to vote for McCluelss(McCain) must surely be on crack. If McClueless drops dead 6 months after the election do you really believe that Sarah Palin is more qualified than Barack Obama to be president. The person that says the more we say they are racist the more they will run from Obama is just looking for a justification for their racist behaviors.

I have said for the last few months that if Barack Obama was a White guy named Bob Johnson he would have a double digit lead over McClueless. But if it makes you so-called non-racists feel better to just say he is not qualified keep dreaming.

When the stock market falls to 100 points and who ever McClueless puts in as treasury secretary blows that 700 billion is bail out money don't blame Obama and his supporters.

Will John McCain reach across the isles when he chooses the next Supreme Court Justice?

That is what's at stake my friends.

This Democrat will be voting McCain......the Dem's left me no choice.

Hillary was my first choice, not because I agree with her on all the issues, but because I believed she had the best overall experience and judgment to run this Nation.

Once Hillary was out of the running, I had to go with my second choice...McCain.

Obama is too experienced for me to even consider him.

Unfortunately people are trying to group all Hillary supporters together and that is foolish. We all have our own individual reasons for having supported her in the past.

I'm a registered Independent woman in NH. I voted for Clinton twice. I'll be voting for McCain in this election. As much as the crazy Obama lefties try and frighten women with loss of abortion rights, most moderate and independent-minded women aren't falling for the scare tactics. Hillary and Obama may have agreed on many issues but there are huge differences between the two of them. Many of us don't want to see a separatist, socialist-leaning, race-card playing, no-experience, anti-trade, bag of hot air as POTUSA.

BTW, I'm married to a man with the same ethnic background as Mr. Obama. He's voting for McCain too.

I don't understand all the people who are dismissive of Palin, from a feminist standpoint, when compared to Hillary. Does ANYONE think Hillary would be in the position to run for the POTUS if it weren't for riding her husband's coattails? She had NO elected experience whatsoever when she carpetbagged into a state in which she had NEVER resided and waltzed into the Senate. Does anyone seriously think she could have even presumed to do that, if it weren't for her husband? Contrast that with Palin who was elected to represent the very people she got to know in her small town and who eventually worked her way up to the governorship where she has an 80% approval rating -- all without dining out on her husband's name! When did feminism become hijacked to require that only women embracing liberal ideals are to be applauded for advancement? Can't you admire Palin for the accomplishments she has made on her own?

You guys, I can't do it. I can't bring myself to vote for Obama.

I watch him and I try to be open minded. I listen to him, and I try to make sense of his abstract rhetoric. I see him, and I try hard not to see an elitist pig. I hear him, and I try to hear what he's going to do for me.

And I think about whether or not he'd be a better leader for our country, until I remember him voting 130 times "Present" in the Illinois Senate. And I remember his silence against a bill that allowed live fetuses to be thrown in the trash, a practice that even NARAL doesn't condone. And I remember that the basic question of life is above his pay grade. And I remember that even this week, he refused to give his opinion in corporate bail-outs in the face of economic ruin. What other tough questions will he avoid? If he won't make hard decisions for fear of angering someone, is he really standing up for anyone?!

There are no Democrats who will vote for McCain, just right-wing trolls here saying so.

BUT...anyone who thinks "Clinton and Obama are virtually identical in their policies" obviously hasn't done a bit of research. There were miles between them.

1. Obama came to a health care plan late, and only because he had to. When he did, he did with a "poison pill," i.e., that it would not be mandated. Reality: without that it WILL NOT HAPPEN -- and he knows it. In other words, he is "for" a health care plan only when he knows it will not happen.

2. Obama was the ONLY Democratic candidate mouthing the GOP talking point that there is a "looming crisis" in Social Security. Reality: there is no looming crisis -- that's a talking point from those who wish to privatize it, and he's oddly on board with that.

3. Obama's gay right credentials are HIGHLY SUSPECT. He was notoriously late in going to the gay community in this election -- he did so well after both Clinton and Edwards did.

4. Obama picked Senator Credit Card for his VP pick. Joe Biden, possibly THE most corporate-friendly Democrat on earth, now that Lieberman jumped ship. A progressive who will take on Wall Street Joe Biden is NOT.

5. Obama claims to be the "real" anti-war candidate because, of course, he wasn't in the Senate when the vote took place. We'll put aside the question of what he actually would have done if he'd been there, and ask WHY THEN DID HE BACK JOE LIEBERMAN, THE SINGLE MOST HAWKISH DEMOCRAT over Ned Lamont in the Democratic primary in CT? Sure, NOW he says he opposed Lieberman, but that was only after Lieberman lost the primary. When it counted, "anti-war" Obama backed uber-pro-war Lieberman over avowedly anti-war Lamont.

6. Obama claims to have voted against the nefarious bankruptcy bill, BUT...he voted against poison-pill amendments Democrats offered up to scuttle it, then voted FOR cloture to bring it to a vote KNOWING FULL WELL Dems did not have enough votes to defeat it. Then he turned around and claimed he voted against it.

So before you call Hillary supporters stupid, do a little research. Obama is win-win for Big Money. He's no liberal -- he's one of them.

With Hillary Clinton you had a woman -- a true liberal with 30 years of cred (she started her career working to impeach Nixon) who would have sailed to victory in Florida, Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and thereby the presidency -- but instead you were tricked by the anti-Democratic media into dumping her in favor of He Who Was Chosen To Lose This Time. YOU'RE the ones who are stupid.

I am a former hillary Clinton supporter and I will be voting for McCain..... forget about the issues, I hate Obama's guts..... McCain at least has a track record to walk the talk.

Obama is a fraud and it's what media has done to anyone who opposes him.

The Media's credibility hangs in the balance.... If Obama loses that should send a huge message to the msm.

"I have said for the last few months that if Barack Obama was a White guy named Bob Johnson he would have a double digit lead over McClueless. But if it makes you so-called non-racists feel better to just say he is not qualified keep dreaming."

Get REAL, Carolyn. If Obama were a white guy named Bob Johnson, with the SAME THIN RESUME, he would have been laughed off the stage at the very first primary debate. When was the last time a white guy with barely 3 years in the U.S. Senate had the arrogance to think he was ready to be president? JFK was 3 years younger than Obama, yet by the time he ran for president, he had served in WWII, served 6 years in the U.S. House of Representatives and another 8 years in the U.S. Senate.

Why don't you tell the class the last time ANYONE with so little experience has advanced so far in a presidential race? If anything, his race has given him an advantage. Now you guys can keep smearing anyone who would dare not to support him as "racist" all you want, but that stunt isn't going to work. Are you a misogynist if you didn't support Hillary?

The Dems never seem to get this point: you don't step on people, insult them, hold them in contempt, belittle them and then have the gall to ask why they are not voting for you. Go back and look how you, the netroots, and the MSM treated Clinton supporters during the campaign.

First it was "What's wrong with Kansas?" and now "What's wrong with Pumas?" You cannot continue with these scorched Earth campaigns that attack everything a person is accuse them of the most vile sins PERSONALLY and then turn around and say "but we agree on the issues!" When you attack or invalidate someones very person-hood, why would anything else matter to them?

This is an interesting convorsation. I have found the Boston Globe reporting to be much more balanced then most papers this election cycle.

I think that McCain/Palin are of the same archetype as Hillary Clinton. All three are warrior, independent, ACTION oriented type personalities. Obama is a consensus builder, slow decision maker, does not have a record of making courageous political decisions or actions, he is a THINKER.

In many ways I think McCain/Palin resonate with Hillary voters (they do me). I think Bill Clinton said it best- (I'm paraphrasing): you have one candidate you agree with half the time who you think can get things acomplished and a second candidate you agree with all the time who you think will get little acomplished. You go with the first choice.

Can someone please explain to me what makes Obama so much better qualified then Sarah Palin? Obama was in the senate 1 1/2 years when he began running for president.

Is it living and representing chicago because it is so much larger then Wasilla? Is it going to Columbia and Harvard? Is it being a state senator for 6 years? Is it because he speaks so intelligently about national issues?

I can see where he has an sincere interest and better understanding of foreign relations but to so convincingly argue that he IS qualified and she is SCARILY UNQUALIFIED seems a double standard without logic, to me.

Jen

Yes. I would argue that Sarah Palin has affected more peoples lives for the better, cleaned up corruption, managed and improved budgets, and made many more sound executive decisions in her policial career then Barack Obama. Please do not go the "making a difference in peoples lives" through community organizing route. I've been a social worker 15 years and 3 years as a community organizer in chicago making political connections that began a political carreer is no head turner for me.

Kevin wrote:
"Will John McCain reach across the isles when he chooses the next Supreme Court Justice?
That is what's at stake my friends."

Don't forget that it takes only a simple majority of the Senate to confirm or fail to confirm a Supreme Court nominee. Democrats are likely to have 55 + seats in the next Senate. John McCain's hands would be tied by a Democratic Senate.

Carolyn wrote:
"I have said for the last few months that if Barack Obama was a White guy named Bob Johnson he would have a double digit lead over McClueless. But if it makes you so-called non-racists feel better to just say he is not qualified keep dreaming."

Barack Obama cut in line, plain and simple. I would have been all for an experienced Senator with 12 years in the US Senate with crazy amounts of charisma in 2016. In fact, I turned to my mother and told her that how excited I was at that prospect the night he delivered his speech to the DNC in 2004. But he didn't wait. The fact that I won't turn 180 degrees on the experience argument doesn't make me a racist. And let's be frank, if he was a white guy named Bob Johnson, he would have lost to Hillary. As a result, I would not have been hounded by a petulant group of Obama supporters today.

I'm writing in Hillary's name as President. Unless of course Obama dumps Biden as is being discussed in his inner circle. Their target date is October 5th or right after his debate with Palin. All of these differences of opinion on important policy issues aren't going over well in their camp. Biden will cite these policy differences or his health issues and step down. Obama will beg Hillary (and Bill to convince her) to come on the ticket.

If that doesn't happen then I'm writing in Hillary. Come on American, join us!!!

My vote will be for Nader. I have always voted Democrat, but I don't trust Obama. He cultivated progressive left-leaning Democrats, and then betrayed those same voters by flipping on several key issues, such as the FISA bill. I think Obama is bought and paid for - and he is probably afraid to debate Nader, who knows more about the issues and has feasible plans to solve our economic and social problems.

Stupid stupid stupid. For people that won't vote, it is still acceptable, at least they know what they wanted. For people that swing around because of the candidates, it seems like the stupidest thing in the world. If you can't f*c***g made up your mind, then your freaking vote doesn't count, who do you think you are? DEMOCRATS FOR McCAIN? Doesn't even make sense, just the stupidest comment I ever heard in my life. Good for you, people like you just what McCain needed anyway, CHANGE, change in mind, speech, position, but at the end of the day, it's just MORE OF THE SAME. Your vote won't be counted anyway.

The Biden choice should have been what finally woke up the Delusional Obama Presidential Enthusiasts (DOPES) but of course they rationalized it along with everything else about He Who Was Chosen To Lose This Time.

Joe Biden is practically an adjunct of the banking industry. Without him half of the re-writing of the laws that led to the current economic catastrophe wouldn't have happened.

But of course that's just FINE with Senator Barack I-Brag-That-I-Was-Against-The-Bankruptcy-Bill-But-I-Voted-For-Cloture-Knowing-It-Would-Pass-bama.

McCain is an old hack, and Palin is nothing but a small-town thug -- no serious Democrat would consider voting for them. The real problem is that the MSM tricked gullible liberals into selecting the candidate least likely to beat McCain -- and one who, if by some miracle he does win, is no threat to Big Money.

In other words, even if Obama manages to win this thing, don't expect a health care plan, don't expect changes in the bankruptcy bill, don't expect the loses of individual liberty we've suffered under Bush to be reversed, don't expect military funding to be curtailed -- because He Who Was Chosen To Lose This Time is one of them. He is in every sense of the term, Win-Win for the GOP. That's why he picked Biden.

#72, if Obama were a white guy named bob johnson, he wouldn't even have the chance to show up as a candidate! No white guy with such a thin resume can even make state senator (except Kennedy's son or similar types). The only reason he gets to run is because he is black! That's his biggest asset. The racist voters in this election are the blacks -- 90+% voted for Obama. That's obviously driven by race. All other racial groups are roughly evenly split between the two candidates. They are not racists.

To all of you false Democrats...know thyselves...you'd rather vote for the party that for eight years has made this country a laughingstock the world over, has taxed and spent more than any Democratic administration could ever be accused of... has demonstrated ineptitude, arrogance and cluelessness time and time again...has trashed the Constitution and succeeded in putting our country in the toilet financially..for reasons having more to do with hurt feelings and vengefulness than common sense and wisdom. JOHN MCCAIN was never a favorite of the the Republican party not because of his "maverick" style, but because of his shoot from the hip, unorthodox, unintelligent, impulsive, ill-tempered style. They dust him off, spit shine him and want the voters to believe that now he is the answer. He is NOT the best choice in this election to lead our country going forward...PERIOD. His lack of understanding of economic issues and actions lately should be illuminative of the type of President he would make. Just compare how he and Barack Obama have handled themselves throughout this crises. Not even close. We need intelligent, resolute, wise and judicious leadership. What cynics claim Obama lacks in experience can be compensated by the above. What McCain lacks can not be compensated by experience. It is McCain that appears to be the rookie, despite his trumpeted experience. His choice of Sarah Palin should be anathema to Hillary supporters. She is the antithesis of everything Hillary represents. She is a woman, anatomically ...other than that she represents exactly the opposite of everything Hillary has worked for her entire life. McCain/Palin oppose equal pay for equal work, oppose allowing women the most fundemental right, are anti-gay rights, anti-gay marriage, he has voted against family and childrens' programs like head start time and again... THE LIST IS ENDLESS... we have an opportunity to move forward. AMERICA WAKE UP!!! Get informed, get the facts and look in your hearts as to the source of your choices. CONSERVATIVE columnist George Will's article in the Washington Port (9/23/08) sums it up. We should all have serious reservations, not, of Obama, but of McCain. His choice of not selecting Hillary was based on political reality, the pragmatism of not having three commanders in chief in the White House and difficult decision making, all noteworhty. So, before you cut your nose to spite your face this election is about intellect and judgment and not about more of the same.

To all of you false Democrats...know thyselves...you'd rather vote for the party that for eight years has made this country a laughingstock the world over, has taxed and spent more than any Democratic administration could ever be accused of... has demonstrated ineptitude, arrogance and cluelessness time and time again...has trashed the Constitution and succeeded in putting our country in the toilet financially..for reasons having more to do with hurt feelings and vengefulness than common sense and wisdom. JOHN MCCAIN was never a favorite of the the Republican party not because of his "maverick" style, but because of his shoot from the hip, unorthodox, unintelligent, impulsive, ill-tempered style. They dust him off, spit shine him and want the voters to believe that now he is the answer. He is NOT the best choice in this election to lead our country going forward...PERIOD. His lack of understanding of economic issues and actions lately should be illuminative of the type of President he would make. Just compare how he and Barack Obama have handled themselves throughout this crises. Not even close. We need intelligent, resolute, wise and judicious leadership. What cynics claim Obama lacks in experience can be compensated by the above. What McCain lacks can not be compensated by experience. It is McCain that appears to be the rookie, despite his trumpeted experience. His choice of Sarah Palin should be anathema to Hillary supporters. She is the antithesis of everything Hillary represents. She is a woman, anatomically ...other than that she represents exactly the opposite of everything Hillary has worked for her entire life. McCain/Palin oppose equal pay for equal work, oppose allowing women the most fundemental right, are anti-gay rights, anti-gay marriage, he has voted against family and childrens' programs like head start time and again... THE LIST IS ENDLESS... we have an opportunity to move forward. AMERICA WAKE UP!!! Get informed, get the facts and look in your hearts as to the source of your choices. CONSERVATIVE columnist George Will's article in the Washington Port (9/23/08) sums it up. We should all have serious reservations, not, of Obama, but of McCain. His choice of not selecting Hillary was based on political reality, the pragmatism of not having three commanders in chief in the White House and difficult decision making, all noteworhty. So, before you cut your nose to spite your face this election is about intellect and judgment and not about more of the same.

FELLOW DEMS, BEFORE YOU ALL GIVE YOURSELVES HERNIAS OVER THESE SENSELESS ANTI-OBAMA COMMENTS YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT ALL THESE SUPPOSEDLY HILLARY SUPPORTERS VOTING FOR MCCAIN AND MAKING THESE COMMENTS ARE NOT HILLARY SUPPORTERS. THEY ARE REPUBLICANS FANNING A FIRE THAT DOES NOT EXIST. AS HILARY SAID HERSELF HER TRUE SUPPORTERS WOULD NOT VOTE FOR PALIN SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN. HILLARY AND PALIN'S VIEWS ON THE ISSUES ARE TOO DIFFERENT AND FOR SO CALLED HILLARY SUPPORTERS TO EVEN VOTE FOR MCCAIN/ PALIN IS AN INSULT TO HER AND THE WORK SHE HAS DONE AND IS DOING.

SO ALL OF YOU HOLD YOUR HORSES, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME RESPONDING TO THESE FOOLS. YOU CAN READ THE ARTICLES, YOU CAN EVEN READ THE COMMENTS, BUT THERE IS NO NEED TO WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY RESPONDING AND GETTING MADDER WITH EACH KEYSTROKE. IGNORE THEM AND MOVE ON. USE THIS ENERGY OUT THERE, GET OUT AND CAMPAIGN ON OBAMA'S BEHALF. GET HIS BLUEPRINT FOR CHANGE OUT THERE - IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT JUST DOWNLOAD IT FROM THE WEBSITE WWW.BARACKOBAMA.COM . IT EXPLAINS OBAMA'S VIEW ON ALL THE ISSUES, REPEAT ALL THE ISSUES, AND HOW HE INTENDS TO WORK FOR US AND WHAT HE INTENDS TO DO FOR US. THAT ALONE DISPROVES ALL THE LIES MCCAIN HAS BEEN SPEWING ABOUT HIM. THAT BLUEPRINT HAS BEEN THE SAME BLUEPRINT FROM DAY ONE. OBAMA HAS A PLAN AND HE HAS LAID OUT THE PLAN CLEARLY.

SO MY FELLOW DEMOCRATS. CALM DOWN. WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE DOING. WE HAVE A GOAL AND A PURPOSE. OUR GOAL HAS NOT CHANGED FROM DAY ONE, WE HAVE NOT WAVERED, WE HAVE NOT FALTERED. OUR MESSAGE HASN'T CHANGED. "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN". IN HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN, OBAMA HAS SHOWED US HOW IT IS DONE BY STAYING FOCUSED AND CALM AND NOT BEING MOVED BY THE NEGATIVITY BEING THROWN AT HIM. DON'T LET THE REPUBLICANS MAKE US LOOSE FOCUS ON WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE WHICH GETTING OBAMA ELECTED AS THE 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. STAY FOCUS, STAY ENCOURAGED. YES WE CAN