Clinton stays away from directly taking on Palin

Obama really should have chosen Hillary as his running mate. This latest stunt just reveals how much he needs her to win.

Obama/Clinton, Clinton/Obama........either would have been a winning ticket in November. Again the Democrats fail to put the two best suited to win on the ballot. Now we have to put up with the "maverick and Annie Oakley" culture war. Is this the best we can do?

Dear Hillary - I voted for you in the primaries and am disappointed that (1) you lost to Obama and (2) you weren't even vetted for the well-deserved VP slot.

Will you stand up for the rest of us progressive, forward-thinking woman, and challenge Obama and the gang that has taken over our Party to reject Howard Gutman's sexist remarks? They did the same thing to you and you need to take a stand regardless of the candidate's views on the issues. This is just sickening to see this coming from our Party leadership.

Gutman said last Friday that Sarah Palin is putting her career above her family by accepting the nomination as John McCain’s running mate.

Howard Gutman made the argument on “The Laura Ingraham Show,” telling the radio host that the Alaska governor show: “If you take a daughter who’s got this emotional strife and subject her to the most intense scrutiny of the world at this time in her life, I think you’ve put your career above your family.”

I didn't think we still have sexist old farts running our Party. I guess we do. One more comment like this and I'm outta here and voting for Palin out of sisterhood.

Ummm... saying "No Palin", they are just more of the same, and that there is a stark choice seems pretty direct to me. Come on.

I assumed that Hillary's role in the general election campaign would be pretty much 'in name only'. It appears that I was sadly correct, to the detriment of her many supporters.

Sisterhood?
My 20-something daughters do NOT want to be forced to carry a fetus to full term if they are raped and impregnated.
Wake up and smell the right-wing judicial coffee. Attend Palin's church, past or present, where people speak in tongues.

Hillary has far too much class to sink to the depths Obama would have her sink to -- "calling out" Palin or levelling accusations against her -- doing his dirty work, essentially. He's lucky she's willing to do this much, considering how his ugly little supporters trashed her for months on end. Now suddenly they need her? They don't deserve the graciousness and class that is Hillary. Wasn't too long ago Michelle Obama went on record as wanting to scratch Bill Clinton's eyes out. Now that Obama needs the Clintons, we're supposed to forget all that. Yeah, right. Count on that. PUMA!!

howard gutman? who is that and who cares? Sally, go to McCain-Palin. You're an idiot. You call this guy sexist and immediately threaten to go vote for a man who is against equal pay and abortion rights? a man who chose a woman because she was woman? a man who chose this woman over more qualified women on his VP pick list, no doubt because she was better looking and had offspring to show off?

What happened to the hard-hitting fighter that we saw in the primaries? Does Hillary want women to lose the right to choose for a generation?

This is pathetic. Hillary needs to get over her 2012 plans and really rip into Palin. Going easy on her just makes Hillary seem toothless.

Maybe Hillary will want to team up with Palin for a run in 2012? Come on, when will the Dems stop being the party that can't unite and do what needs to be done to win an election?

Both my children graduated from Swampscott High, and I can't conceive of any of their classmates even considering a vote for Palin as a vote for "sisterhood".

Your definition of sisterhood includes outlawing abortion even in cases of rape or incest, abstinence only education, eliminating Head Start funding, reducing food stamps, and allowing creationism in public schools? If so, I'm certain that my 25 year old and about 50 of her friends would be more than happy to listen to you explain why.

Hillary is doing just what she needs to do. Neither the Obama campaign nor the Hillary campaign need to get in the mud with Palin and McCain and sling personal insults. Palin and McCain will hang themselves on the economy because neither one of them understand anything about it. Palin's gaffe today, where she said that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been costing the government too much money, shows that she REALLY doesn't get it. The Republican administration has just committed the US taxpayer to a bailout many trillions more expensive than the Iraq war to cover for Republican economic policies which Sarah Palin wants to continue. The public will understand this ultimately.

Dear Hillary,

Palin is a pretender, a joke, a fraud. She also called herself a pit bull.

You know those gloves you put on after the primary fight ended? Time to take them off and punch Palin in the mouth. She's asking for it. Cut her to shreds.

Signed,
Those Who Hope for a Sane America
ie,
Obama/Biden voters

Great, Michelle. I hope neither you nor anyone you love is ever raped and forced to carry the baby to term, because that's what McCain and Palin will force you to do if they get elected.

Dear Swampscott Sally - how can any "progressive, forward-thinking woman", as you call yourself, even consider voting for the neanderthal McCain/Palin ticket? Face it, Hillary lost the primary fair and square. She knows it, and has moved on. Time for PUMAs to realize Palin would be a disaster for women's issues, and vote for the progressive forward-thinking Obama/Biden slate.

Hillary you have as much at stake as Obama. If you let Palin get VP or Possibly Presidential experience over you, you will never have the chance to be president in 2012 or 2016...after 2016 you will be too old to care. She will be racking up experience to use against you. YOU REALLY NEED TO FIGHT A LITTLE HARDER!

Ummm -- I think its obvious that Palin is putting her political career above her family. However, most politicians do that, whether men or women. A political campaign (especially a national campaign) and holding a national office is to all-encompassing for a family not to take a hit. I do not believe that any person could possible be the President (or even VP) and do justice to the job while giving 100% to their family.

A person that says they can do both is not telling the truth. President/VP (at least the way it is supposed to be) is a 24/7/365 job (see what a part-time Prez has done to us?). Families have to sacrifice.

Do you honestly think that President Obama will be able to give his daughters his full attention? I'm sure he will give them what he can, but give me a break.

To Swampscott Sally-I was very angry at Hillary Clinton for her nasty comments about Obama and praise of McCain during the primary,even though I voted for Bill twice. But if she was the dem candidate instead of Obama I would support her because of the ISSUES. Rude Hillary supporters on the fringe were just as obnoxious as rude Obama supporters on the fringe. I believe Obama did not pick Hillary for VP because independents would not see her as change, having been in the White House for 8 years already with Bill. Getting hung up on Gutman's comments as though they reflect Obama's views is childish-and it's not your party anymore than it is mine or any other Obama supporter's party. If McCain is elected with his ideas of war as a first solution and economic elitism, we will all suffer.

Nancy...
BO did not pick HRC for VP because he is "gutless". He didn't want her to outshine him. You can use the "change" mantra as the reason why he didn't pick her, but that's not the case....Biden has 36yrs. Wash. experience. BO was too arrogant to understand just how much he needed HRC and Bill C. We ardent HRC supporters who've watched many Presidential elections, knew.

The Dems are masters at picking the wrong nominee to win the general election. The general is a more conservative electorate, and there are no caucuses to manipulate, no disproportionate delegate distribution systems...it's just winner
take all.

HRC has already done more for BO than past candidates did for their opponents. HRC was put through "hell" for waiting FOUR days to endorse BO. Most candidates didn't endorse their opponents til the convention. In addition, HRC has upheld her pledge to BO to throw her donors to him, garnering him millions of dollars to date, unlike BO, who hasn't upheld his end of the bargain for HRC.

I don't think HRC should get in the mud over Palin. It isn't her fight. BO should have seen this coming. Afterall, Carville pointed out a while ago, BO would pick a "safe" vp choice, while McCain would pick a "surprise", and that 's just what happened. Palin would never have been chosen if not for the path HRC forged. BO needs to learn how to fight, and he needs to learn how to connect by showing passion!! HRC learned this brilliantly, and by the end of Feb. forward, she was clearly the stronger candidate to face McCain. What a pity.....As long as the Dem party is run by the liberals such as Dean, Pelosi, Reid, rather than centrists such as the Clintons, we may never win a general election.

I write this with the imagination that as a citizen, what I have to say, somehow matters. This can be considered part of my “catharsis” of my disappointment with the process once again, as a hurt Gore supporter from the past and registered Independent voter. I wished that Michigan and Florida could have been counted in the first place, to have prevented people from feeling like the process was unfair or incomplete and as if their votes once again didn’t count. After 2000, you would have thought that both Obama and Clinton would have known how to better protect their voters’ rights and political process. Moving on….

My husband (Democrat) and I (Independent) both hold graduate, professional degrees – our middle school-aged children attend private school. I look like Hillary and have been a Hillary supporter although there are qualities in each of 4 candidates I really liked: Obama (as a minority and for his fresh and kind approach), Clinton (for her apparent honesty, fortitude, daring, and commitment), McCain (for his war hero status and longevity) and Huckabee (for his outstanding way of communicating the republican agenda, commitment to the ongoing process, and kindness in his approach). My husband and daughter look like Obama and have been Obama supporters since the start. My son and extended family supported Huckabee and now McCain so I am immersed in a very diverse family.

My disappointment in the VP pick for Obama comes from the fact that he cavalierly 1) put the party and election at risk by not choosing Hillary, and 2) ignored a democratic constituency of 18 million people and disregarded what “the people” were telling him. This sounds a little like Bush tactics that won disfavor, and this move caused me to loose a lot of respect and what trust I previously held for Obama!

Basically, it seems Obama is suffering from the same fate as Hillary: Hillary got too confident early on underestimating Obama, and now Obama got too confident early on underestimating McCain.

Obama’s pick of Biden reminded me of “the good ol’ boy system.” And although I acknowledge McCain for his interesting approaches and reasons for incorporating Sarah Palin (a seemingly strong, capable, business woman) into the ticket, I don’t support the majority of her views, and Palin’s participation has not persuaded me in that direction - it has actually pushed me away. But I understand my feelings are not shared by many other Independents and Hillary supporters.

My husband says the closing gap in the polls doesn’t matter because there are so many more Democrats than Republicans and Obama will be good at getting Dems to vote, so I hope for Obama’s sake that this would be the case, despite the fact that Obama really put me off in the trust department in his resemblance to Bush in the VP Pick. Otherwise, it looks like the single choice to disregard voters’ views with respect to Obama’s VP Pick hurt the party more than I would imagine Obama expected (although at least 18 million people he ignored were telling him differently).

I'm a huge fan of Hillary's but come on folks....it's politics. I don't think Obama didn't pick her b/c she's a woman and I don't think he would stoop to ask her to take on Palin. Hillary is too smart and so is Obama. If you supported Hillary then support her lifes' work and all the things she stands for and support Obama. Don't get caught up in the "sexism" hype that the REPs are hoping to win from. They use fear in one way or the other to get people to vote for them. Yes sexism exists on both sides but lets not lose sight at what's at stack here.

Hillary has as much at stake here as Senator Obama does. Should Ms Palin assume the office of Vice President, she and not Senator Clinton suddenly becomes the defacto voice for womens issues, even though she is on the wrong side of every one of them. Palin opposes everything Hillary ever fought for. But it is also important to note that in campaigns you don't aim down. You shoot at the top and the candidate who must be defeated is John McCain. Hillary understands this. Biden needs to put a dent in Palin's halo when the debates come up and the press needs to be continually goaded into examining the Alaska Governor's questionable and disturbing record. But Hillary and Obama know that you win elections by running against the Presidential nominee and not his running mate.

Yes Hillary is doing just what her supporters expect of her. She is keeping her promise to support Obama because he is the party's nominee. But Hillary supporters will never forget how the democratic party treated her, now they are begging her to do his dirty work for him. I think Hillary is too much a lady and politician to behave like Mr. and Mrs. Obama. I have read a lot of blogs and reviewed women groups on TV that are putting Palin down because she is ambit
ious and smart. Every women who has made it up the corporate ladder has made sacrifices. While men seem to get there with very little effort. I am a democrat for the time being, but I really need to say that I am not proud of my party leaders during the campaign where so little respect was given to the knowledge and experience of women in the United States. After all women are the reason for the birth of all of the sexist men who put them down. They need to be carefull how they treat their sisters, mothers and daughters. The party leaders need to be careful about how they are talking about Palin too, their criticism of her is really a turn off for a lot of Hillary supporters.

We have had many many many months to dig deep into the lives of all the candidates. We have now been introduced to Palin for less then two weeks and people have completely forgot that we don't know her. Basing the future of a country on a convention speech or the gender of a person is very shallow. I think her past should have been examined for at least a year just like everyone else. Just because she's a women does not give her a free pass just like it didn't give Hillary one, or Obama one for being black.

I was wrong about Gov. Sarah Palin. I even posted my opposition to it on this board. However, after viewing this weekend's Fox report about her I am dead wrong. This person is just right for the Republican Party and will energize their base. Those are the folks who will man the phones and knock on the doors. She has principles and is a standard bearer for all working moms (put aside the political issues).

We're sunk. Sarah Palin has taken the "change" mantra away from Obama and has put meat on it (granted it's moose meat but meat still the same). Obama has proven he's all fluff.

I was wrong about Gov. Sarah Palin. I even posted my opposition to it on this board. However, after viewing this weekend's Fox report about her I am dead wrong. This person is just right for the Republican Party and will energize their base. Those are the folks who will man the phones and knock on the doors. She has principles and is a standard bearer for all working moms (put aside the political issues).

We're sunk. Sarah Palin has taken the "change" mantra away from Obama and has put meat on it (granted it's moose meat but meat still the same). Obama has proven he's all fluff.

Hillary, I supported you in the primaries and I initially was angry enough to say, oh I'll stay at home or worse yet, vote for the other team.
Well, I've come to my senses, unlike those that call themselves PUMA. They are nothing but an angry bunch of women who would rather sacrifice the principles of this party which they supposedly once held dear all for the sake of having a pair of ovaries in office. Well I for one will NOT sacrifice those principles and core beliefs.
I, like many others, have seen the RIGHT do nothing but WRONG in this country. John McCain or I have started to call him, John McSHAME has proven that he is willing to pander to the extreme right in order to satisfy his ambition. The ambition to be president. He is sacrificing many of the principles he once said he stood for. So it is now "ME (JOHN McCAIN) FIRST" instead of "Country First." Well I'm not willing to drink the Republican Kool-Aid in order to wipe away all that the REAL women of this world fought for to get the right to vote. I don't want to see a woman's right to choose be lost only to have a woman's right to birth control follow (and if you think it isn't with physician's refusing to prescribe just look it up).
If this country falls to the extreme right, we will NEVER get it back and our FREEDOM will be lost FOREVER.

The moral of this story is: THINK BEFORE YOU ACT, YOUR ACTIONS COULD HAVE SERIOUS REPERCUSSIONS.
Be careful if you think that voting for a pair of unqualified ovaries

"As long as the Dem party is run by the liberals such as Dean, Pelosi, Reid, rather than centrists such as the Clintons, we may never win a general election."

Thank you!

All candidate-bashing aside, this primary season and upcoming election doesn't make me want to get involved, it makes me want to blaze-up a doobie and tune out. As the polls show today, the "American" people are willing to put into power a person they've only known for a week. That speaks volumes.

kmb08-you are more tuned into politics than the undecided voters who just began to tune in and can turn an election. Hillary Clinton is anathema to some of them; they don't even know Biden. I do not disagree with some of what you say however. The dem party has problems. But the republicans were rallying around McCain more than disgruntled Hillary supporters were rallying around Obama-even lots of evangelicals, and of course more of them since he picked Palin. The dems need to track centrist, true. And resentful Hillary backers need to come back and help us defeat McCain.Reform comes from within. Or suffer with us under 4 more years and maybe 8 of Palin.

..And stop trying to bully us into voting for Obama under threat of Roe v. Wade -- we're SO weary of it. If Bush hasn't dealt it any blows in the past 8 years, I think we can all sleep at night. Palin upholds the law, and Roe v. Wade is the law. Find something else to bludgeon us with 'cause that's not working. Try the clinging to guns and religion mantra, at least. Your guy is looking threadbare -- stop shamelessly trying to use someone you recently professed to loathe. Grow a conscience. Let Obama stand on his own two feet and face the music.

I can't believe any sane woman would vote for the Alaskan pitbull "out of sisterhood"!! Give me a break! This woman is against abortion even in cases of rape and incest, thinks that teaching abstinence to teenage works, wants creationism taught in public schools, tries to ban books from the public library, goes after MILLIONS of dollars in earmarks and then says she's against them, supports aerial shooting of wolves and polar bears, thinks global warming wasn't caused by human activities, . . . should I go on?

DO NOT confuse media scrutiny (yes, heavy, unrelenting media scrutiny) with sexist treatment. That's SUCH bs I can't believe anyone with more than two brain cells would fall for it. We do ourselves no favor by hiding behind claims of sexism. This pitbull with lipstick is the one who's USING her sex to woo voters: when was the last time a male politician blew kisses to the audience during a major speech?

DO NOT sully the cause of feminism by pretending this woman is "fighting the big boys"... she's using them and they're using her. Go ahead and vote for her if you want this country to turn into a theocracy run by hypocritical fundamentalists!

Well I guess it's o.k. for Palin to call Hillary a whinning bit**, which she did, but when John McCain didn't call one lady on it, that was o.k. all so, but for some reason Sen. Obama get the blame, when he never ever call Hillary any name,WOW!!!!!!!!

The sad truth of the matter is that an Obama/Clinton ticket thrills the base but alienates the center. Ditto for Clinton/Obama. Neither one is a winning ticket.

It's that simple and both candidates know it. You can call it gutless or you can accept it as practical.

I'm failing to understand why Clinton should be taking on Palin? Because they are both women? McCain is the nominee, she should take on him and his policies.

Come on Women. Let's reason:-

Obama spoke about equal rights for women.
His deeds?
No VP job for a (14million votes) woman but requires her to campaign as a "slave" for NOTHING?

DEEDS speaks louder than words.

McCain-Palin

"The sad truth of the matter is that an Obama/Clinton ticket thrills the base but alienates the center. Ditto for Clinton/Obama. Neither one is a winning ticket."

So look what "thrilling" the base has done for McCain. The sad truth is, 18 million people who voted in the Democratic primary are feeling a little left-out right now. While I'm not a PUMA supporter by any means, I do fear there is no party unity right now with us Dems. Case-in-point, I'm an undecided voter and a Democrat.

I didn't like Clinton's campaign tactics mixing aggression with self pity but I never doubted the senator's knowledge and skill in issues and political strategy. She just didn't see Obama coming. Nobdy did. He didn't see Palin coming. Inasmuch as Clinton got slighted and deservedly so methinks, it would be something like gratuitious political unwisdom for her to attack Palin on Obama's behalf. Clinton's liberal politics are 180 degrees opposite of Palin's cheery conservatism, mix of George Bush and Charleton Heston guns and god stuff ... Clinton has her own political ambitions and destroying herself for Obama's sake isn't one of them. Nor would Obama think it wise. If he can get her to do it, all right. But why should she? There's always 2012 for Clinton. McCain too old. Palin too careless. Clinton doesn't have a real stake in the Obama Administration. Yet.

I'm with Sam; they say Democrats fall in love with their candidate while Republicans fall in line. Republicans appear to be falling in line with McCain because of Sarah Palin.

For the 18 million who did not fall in love, it is difficult to embrace the party that refused to respect the primaries. Obama's supporters should have realized they had their work cut out for them when they ran up the numbers in the caucus states.

I expect Hillary to directly take on the policies and record of both McCain and Palin.
And if she doesn't I will not support her should she run in 2012. It's that simple, crybabies.

Candidate Obama's campaign was in trouble a year ago with the disturbing revelations of William Ayres, Jeremiah Wright and Anthony Rezko and their close relationship with Obama, any of whom would destroy a candidate’s chance at office by mere association. It's a little late for last minute miracles now. It will be interesting to see if Obama can even hold even onto his Senate seat with the increasing negative baggage compounded with his inability to speak well and address the issues in detail. Finally, Obama already let it be known he would have surrounded himself with left leaning party machine democrats and would have been uncompromising on all issues.

John McCain has already demonstrated that he is willing to put the country before his party. McCain has made enemies among both Republicans and Democrats who strayed away from good government and pushed for campaign reform legislation that was unpopular with both parties in the past. McCain was given the label of maverick by the Democrats years ago and the name stuck. It’s interesting that Obama, a solid cog in the Democrat Political Machine tried to borrow McCain’s label; of course, it didn’t work.

McCain will win this election and when he enters into the Oval Office, he will be seated among many cabinet members, mavericks like himself and of every political party; Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and Independents where party affiliation will take a back seat to reform and the interests of the nation. This might finally be the end of political gridlock and the dangerous polarity that has gripped our nation for fifteen years. Clearly, an Obama regime would have just been machine politics as usual.

==McCAIN * PALIN 08==

Although I am a woman of sixty-something and a veteran of the feminist wars, I still don't understand what it is that some people think the Democratic Party did to Hillary Clinton. Michigan and Florida knew that they had illegal primaries; the caucus system should have been understood by the spouse of a two-times president. She lost; get over it. Even considering a book-banning, anti-free choice, planet-endangering person becuse she is a woman seems ludicrous to me.

Michelle M, the sole reason Bush"hasn't dealt [Roe v. Wade] any blows in the past 8 years" is because he cannot overturn an existing law. That task, in this case, falls to the Supreme Court. And so, once the balance of opinion on the court shifts just a seat or so to the right (towards the very base Palin was chosen to appeal to most) one of the many pro-life groups will undoubtably attempt to start the process to appeal Roe v. Wade.

So the huge concern about Palin, from this standpoint, is it should be fairly clear what sort of justice a McCain-Palin administration would appoint to the Supreme Court if/when given the likely chance of a vacancy on the bench.

Thank you #40 for saying it like it really is. I'm your age and am also a veteran of the feminist wars. What I would like to see now is Hillary Clinton grabbing the banner back from Sarah Palin -- a woman whose claim to fame is being governor of a state that has fewer people than any number of major US cities. How dare Palin allude to being a part of that 18million fracture in the glass ceiling. Hillary needs to take direct aim at Palin...lest Clinton be viewed in the future as also trading her team to the rivals. As Mayor, Palin tried to have books banned and removed from the community library. She has ignored solid science, and wants the Polar Bear removed from the Threatened List. She has authorized a bounty ($150/foreleg) on the slaughter of wolves. She claims tax cuts, but AK has no individual income tax or state sales tax. Wake up America! She is no Hillary Clinton. And the fact that John McCain believes she should be second in line for the highest post in the most powerful country in the world most certainly is NOT putting "country first."

Am a Democrat. @ this point I remain undecided. Am not too keen to vote Democrat this election . The way they treated Hillary Clinton has been a major turn off for me.The media was no help either. They made Obama a celebrity, @ times they led me to believe he was a political candidate for Hollywood, if there was such a position.

Hillary Clinton, to me would have given the Democrats the best ticket.

Republican wise, am not too keen on supporting McCain -Palin ticket. Palin, yes she may be able to relate w/ hockey moms, working moms which I am, but I don't
see her with great potential for a major political office of a VP. She, like Senator Obama , are far behind Senator Clinton related to experience, skills & competency
to effectively lead & protect our country.

The one thing I haven't seen addressed is any of the commentaries--in blogs, articles, or even reader comments (is it self-evident?)--is the idea that the appearance of Sarah Palin reads kind of like a "return of the repressed." If you ever doubted that the Republican party really had such a troglodyte up their sleeve, or that the "family values" platform masks an irrational fear of sex, there she is: lacquered, conventionally feminine, "sexy" yet authoritarian, provocative and castrating at exactly the same time. The "desirable" woman is the one who encourages "abstinence training?" Why wasn't she dressed as a dominatrix, which would've really brought the point home? This is precisely what she offers--what she stands for--the desire for/and negation of libidinal satisfaction. No wonder there was so much convention hysteria. Those people eat that stuff up. She is, in reality, "the return of repressed repression," since we haven't seen something like this in years. And of course, where are the supressed libidinal impulses to go? To war.

I am voting for McCain for one reason and one reason only. To repudiate the sexist and misognynist treatment of Senator Clinton by the media and the DNC.

Obama has been the beneficiery of misogyny against Senator Clinton. A vote for Obama amounts to rewarding sexist pigs like Chris Matthews and Maureen Dowd.

Democratic party needs to be taught a lesson. They can not take women's vote for granted. They cannot treat a candidate like Senator Clinton the way they did and pretend nothing happened.

Well, Obama's right - the republicans think you're stupid, and many are proving it. To think that any self respecting woman would vote for a man that voted AGAINST equal pay for equal work, out of unmitigated spite is just absolutely moronic.

Yeah, teach the Democratic party a lesson and vote against your own personal bests interests - if that doesn't clearly illustrate stupid, I don't know what does.

Grow up and get real folks!

#45-why punish all of us and Obama for what you think Chris Matthews and Maureen Dowd did? Again, as stated above by others, what did the Dem party do to Clinton-follow caucus and primary rules> She lost fair and square. If her supporters don't support Obama, and Obama loses, do you think his supporters will support Hillary in 2012? Why are you people such sore losers? It's politics-the Republicans understand that. That's why they win. Don't you care about Dem issues like the environment, health care, ending the war, choice if your daughter is raped? As Hillary said, were you in it just for her???

#45 Your logic is flawed and ridiculous. "Voting for McCain because Hillary received sexist treatment" reminds me of the anti-Vietnam War slogan, "Fighting for peace is like f***ing for chastity."

Hillary is repudiating whatever "treatment" she received in the primaries by remaining true to her values and coming out strongly for the only people now in a position to honor her and her values--Obama and Biden.

It is Republicans that take women's votes for granted by thinking they can put up a female right wing extremist and attract Hillary supporters, 81% of whom, now, BTW, support Hillary according to the Gallup Tracking Poll. (Less than 10% of former Hillary supports are committed to voting for McCain)

*** OBAMA/BIDEN '08***

Before the right to have an abortion was granted in the U.S., my father's sister died in an illegal abortion her husband forced her to have. I never met her children, my first cousins, because my uncle was banished from our family forever. I am old enough to know the fear of returning to those times, where back alley abortions were routine. Please, those of you Hillary supporters, who now might be wanting to support a McCain-Palin ticket out of spite, wake up and see the real consequences beyond just the one issue you are dwelling on.
And in the primaries the Clintons were no saints either.

Dear Maria,

Don't be like Nader voters in 2000. You can vote for someone who beat your candidate in a race that was hard fought on both sides, or you can vote for someone who disagrees with your candidate (and persumably you) on every major issue, from social and cultural ones to fundamental approaches to governing the country.

Seems to me pretty clear which is the choice (and my first candidate didn't make the top two, nor was vetted, so I got a beef too...)

"She lost; get over it."

One thing Obama followers should never say to Hillary supporters. It sounds a little too much like what we heard after the 2000 election.

Palin calls Hillary is a whiner
McCain makes a crass joke about Chelsea Clinton's looks and father=Janet Reno

Amazing that any Hillary supporter could stoop so low

>Democratic party needs to be taught a lesson.

Huh. Nader said exactly the same thing eight years ago, and what did we get? You are talking about misogyny, fine, but you really don't know what you are talking about and you aren't putting things in a long-term perspective as Hillary urged us to in her convention speech. Think about it, you are cutting your own throat by your compulsive angry vote for the McCain/Palin ticket. Tell me, where does Palin stand about women's issues? What direction would the SCOTUS take for the next 20 or 30 years if the McCain/Palin ticket wins?

Hillary knows what is at stake. She keeps talking about it. And yet some self-proclaimed "Hillary supporters" won't listen to reason. It's just pathetic.

Swampscott Sally. Gov Palin is just as sexist as the rest of the men you're talking about. She brags about going back to work the day after she gave birth! How does that help reinforce all the bs out there when the rest of us normal working women try to take, oh god forbid the medically suggested six week minimum!

Er, Maria, most of the "misogyny" and sexism you complain about has been perpetrated by REPUBLICANS. Have you somehow forgotten the near-constant bashing of Hillary since 1992? Have you forgotten which side of the political spectrum that bashing came from? Hint: not Obama's party.

Your argument's supposed factual basis is contrary to fact, and even if your facts were correct, it still makes vanishingly small amounts of sense to even consider voting for a party FULL of complete sexism and misogyny, just to supposedly punish "the media", whatever that means.

Of course, you're probably just a paid Republican troll anyway, just like "Michelle" above (who probably has a Y chromosome in perfect operating order) and the various other fake "PUMA! Yeah! Go PUMAs! Woo!" folks.

My money's on about 95%+ of the supposed PUMA folks being paid Republican copy-and-paste trolls, personally. The other 5% were never Democrats to begin with.

To the extent Hillary really WAS treated poorly by the media, you can chalk that up to their corporate masters, who are all Republicans. You might want to educate yourself on this basic fact about our media.

Dear Samantha,

You mentioned you are undecided mainly because neither Palin nor Obama have experience. A few things i wish to point out:

1. McCain has experience. Not just any kind mind you, one wherein he went against his own party, made a lot of Republican enemies and worked with Democrats. In fact, the moniker "Maverick" was given to him by DEMOCRATS.
2. Palin also has experience. Just like McCain, she went against her own party to get things done. You merely need to google it to see for yourself.

The fact that Obama didn't pick Clinton as his VP when it was obvious to many that he jeopardized his election chances by passing her over, shows what a poor strategist he is. A political campaign is not unlike a military campaign, and Obama passed over Clinton, who could have been a strategic ally with a vast army, for Biden, who was more in his comfort zone for reasons only known to him. Obama now tries to deploy Clinton because he obviously still needs her even after elevating Biden to be his ally in the campaign instead of her. It's sad that after being boorishly blocked from what would have been a winning "dream ticket" in an historic general election win, she's now diminished to being the party's tool to attack other strong, leadership women. Not good enough to be invited into the party, she's assigned the role of helping block the door against another woman's entry. Marginalized by her own party, Clinton has now become its tool to help block another -- Republican -- woman from advancing to top office. What the Obama camp was saying about her being an unprincipled political animal was true. I will have a very hard time supporting Clinton should she run again.

I love those angry, vial, attack Democrates!!! The Dems just can't help themselves, they attack in a vial, childish way and turn off voters in swing states!!! They did it again, THANK YOU----KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK (CNN

McCain and the GOP still want to play got-cha politics -- Old-time Party Politics, which most Americans are weary and growing tired of. The GOP lead us into a Pretend and Fake war, the Iraq invasion. The Real war was and is in Afghanistan where Bin Ladin is hiding today. That is not change you can believe in. Most Americans want Truth and Authenticity. We don't want to be led into a fake war for oil! We don't want our young men and women dying for oil and a fake war that should have never been authorized. John McCain likes to say he is good on national security, yet he voted Yes to authorize the fake war the Iraq War. What we need desperately today is more honesty by our politicians in this nation instead of the politics of Got-cha, Lies and the tearing down of one's opponent through dishonesty. The debate should be about the real issues, not pretend wars or personal attacks and or empty and false slogans because it does nothing for the day to day lives of American people.

The Republican operatives have belittled and berated Barack Obama as just speeches, however, Barack has over 20 years of experience in public service, plus a Natural Talent to organize and get things done, as evidenced by the successful running of his Campaign. Barack Obama has an innate judgment as evidenced by his speaking out against the Iraq war when it was not popular because he had the intelligence and common sense to know that the real was was in Afghanistan not Iraq. Bin Ladin did and does not live in Iraq. Barack Obama has the ability to inspire people to unite in a common cause to bring about the Necessary Changes we need today. Because if we do not unite for change, for true democracy, together we will all go down with the ship and be united anyway but in a negative way and not a positive way.

We definitely need a change in the way our politicians campaign which as to date, tears down one's opponent through lies and dishonesty which only tears the country down and puts a bad taste in our mouths, though each candidate has the right to point out true policy differences. We should demand honesty and integrity from our politicians and stop letting them lead us down a yellow brick road of illusion, misstatements, lies and dirty political maneuvering!

Barack Obama is no ordinary man. He is not the Messiah, but he is an Old Soul or Disciple. He was born to lead and born to take humanity to a higher stage of unity and prosperity. His message has been throughout that all children are Everybody's Children, and that we must change the "mindset" for going into wars. He tells us that in order for us to make it as a society and solve our problems, that we must stop being divisive: gays against straight, Muslims, Jews, Palestinians, Christians must unite and respect one another's religions. That will be his greatest gift to humanity at this time -- the ability to see each other as ourselves -- or together we can go down with the ship. Everyday he risks his life. He is not running because he has a thirst for power. He offers up his life for his love of humanity and to its next stage of evolution. We should embrace this gift and offer up our prayers that he can finish his mission, his high calling. We must stopped being fooled by politicians who only has the best interest of their pocketbooks and big corporations and not the pocket books of everyday average citizens. It should not take 10 years for the minimum wage to be increased, there is no justification for that. That should tell you there that politicians who vote no for an increase care nothing about your day to day struggles. And you have to ask yourself "What has the GOP done for me lately"? The years when the American Dream was thriving, they were years when there was Democratic Presidents and Congress. That is the true party of the people. If we are to get back to the American dream again we must put in office that party who has always been inclusive and the people's champion. That party is the Democratic Party.

And lastly we must not listen to those who refuse to understand the changing of the old order, and the awakening of humanity to the new possibilities. We need a complete purification of the political and economical arenas which would be of the greatest value in bringing back Americas greatness and strength.

Michelle M wrote...

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Wasn't too long ago Michelle Obama went on record as wanting to scratch Bill Clinton's eyes out. "

It is time to put up or shut up. Do you have a citation for this claim?

"Attend Palin's church, past or present, where people speak in tongues."
Posted by Anita September 8, 08 02:05 PM

Just one more example of the type of intolerant people who lurk in the Democratic Party. Or is this just germane to Bostonians?

What exactly is your religion Anita so we can all make fun of it and make derogatory remarks about it?

Or aren't you religious at all? In that case, may God have mercy on your soul - if you have one.