Fiorina flubs reply on CEO readiness
Carly Fiorina, who once won the title of most powerful woman in business during her days as CEO of Hewlett Packard, might need some of that clout to get out of this one.
Fiorina has been one of John McCain's most active surrogates, particularly on economic issues and reaching out to women.
But asked by a St. Louis radio station today whether she thought McCain's running mate Sarah Palin could run a big company like her, Fiorina flubbed her answer.
"No, I don't," Fiorina replied. "But that's not what she's running for. Running a corporation is a different set of things."
Later on MSNBC, she tried to explain herself, but managed to make things worse. "I don't think John McCain could run a major corporation," she said.
Fiorina tried to clarify her remarks, saying that neither member of the Democratic ticket -- Barack Obama nor Joe Biden -- had the chops to be a CEO, either. "It's a fallacy to suggest that the country is like a company," she said.
But the damage was done. Obama's campaign, jostling with McCain's over the Wall Street crisis, jumped all over the remark. "If John McCain's top economic adviser doesn't think he can run a corporation, how on Earth can he run the largest economy in the world in the midst of a financial crisis?" spokesman Tommy Vietor asked.



Carly Fiorina is an Idiot, why do you think the shareholders at HP ousted her? She almost ruined Hewlett Packard, hopefully her 'high' ambitions will ruin McShame/Putin, as you can see she has already started!
Typical Repuk!
obama's camp sliced and diced until they came up with this. That's pretty sad.
Read the script she said all of the them.
Carly got booted from HP for a reason, how can she really talk about running a corporation. SHE couldn't even do that correctly. Why McCain's campaign has anything to do with her is beyond me.
And that's the difference.
I KNOW that both Obama and Biden could run major corporations, and run them well.
I now also KNOW that Palin and McCain could not.
But then again... anybody who follows their policy positions and the depth of knowledge they have would already know that.
"But the damage was done." Not really. Do you really thing these sniplets change voters minds? If that's the case Obama would've been toast after Rev Wright and typical white woman.
Get over it.
It is so refreshing to see a Republican like Fiorina tell the truth. Between Fiorina's and Rove's admissions maybe guilt has finally taken its toll.
But the real question is, given Carly's corporate experience, can she merge Alaska with the rest of the country...politically, I mean?
You are an idiot - if you listened to THE WHOLE sound bite, you would have heard her say McCain, Obama and Palin all in the same breath - not as clarification. This article is not accurate.
Carly was fired from her top position at HP. She should remove herself from the political field as obviously this is not the first time she has instered foot in mouth and head up ass.
Carly Fiorina can't run a company either. Except maybe into the ground, at which point she gives herself millions for her brilliant performance and skips out. So it's not suprising she pals up with people that can't run a government.
Very cute! You are reporting a complete falsehood, from a heavily edited YouTube video excerpt. Damn, that's savvy reporting!
Why don't you report from the ACTUAL broadcast, where Ms. Fiorina actually stated that she believed McCain and Palin could quickly be trained to run a major corporation - but that BARACK OBAMA and JOE BIDEN could NOT!
But why report the truth, when the LIE is so much more effective?
Wow... and you wonder why people don't trust the media...
Interesting that you could take the ONE SENTENCE she did say without pause "I don't think John McCain could run a major corporation, I don't think Barack Obama could run a major corporation, I don't think Joe Biden could run a major corporation..." and turn it into: ""I don't think John McCain could run a major corporation," she said.
Fiorina tried to clarify her remarks, saying that neither member of the Democratic ticket -- Barack Obama nor Joe Biden -- had the chops to be a CEO, either. "
How biased and irresponsible.
In answering the question, she had to chose between her ego and the egos of John and Sarah. These sort of people always choose their own.
Fiorina was a corrupted CEO who was installed by the good old boys' club. She was pushing for the merger with Compaq, despite the strong opposition from board members like Walter Hewlett. She was rewarded a handsome "merger bonus" without disclosing to the shareholders her apparent conflict of interests. After the takeover of Compaq, she almost ran Hewlett Packard to the ground. She basically spent billions acquiring Compaq but did not benefit from any of Compaq's technologies. She was soon ousted by the board and Hewlett Packard was on its way to recovery. The lesson learned should be: a person with no engineering background and no finance background should not be in charge of a multi-billion dollar company. (She was a secretary at Hewlett Packard before her ascend to power. God knows how she got there to begin with) To make a long story short: McCain can be judged by the company he keeps. Take a look at the Obama camp. They have people like Warren Buffet giving economic advice to Obama, not someone like Carly "dirty proxy fight" Fiorina or Phil "Americans are whiners" Gramm.
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Both Obama and Biden could not run a company. You Demo's are really reaching on this one.
Obviously Fiorina couldn't run a company either. Under her guidance, HP tanked and the marriage that she aggressively pushed for with Compaq was a boondoggle of epic proportions. I'm less than sure that she ought to be saying who could and could not be a CEO.
She's absolutely right, of course. One cannot run a country the way one runs a corporation. States and nations are closer to non-profits, which take very diffferent administrative, motivational and organizational skills (I'm saying this as someone from the business sector also helping manage a non-profit; the dynamics are very different and the skillsets do not automatically translate).
The fact that Obama/Biden are "jumping all over the remark," however, demonstrates how little they know about the subject and how inexperienced they are at running anything "other than their mouths."
Oh Carly! First you get pushed out of HP and now you are pushing your foot into your mouth. Certainly you are correct about leadership. Running the largest economy in the world is much easier than selling ink jet printers! I love how you explain that you didn't get 40 million to take a hike from HP, but merely 21 million in cash (and of course 20 million in stock options and other benefits). Buying iPods from Apple and putting HP logos on them was pure brilliance on your part by the way. That sort of forward thinking is amazing! What were the stockholders of HP thinking when then revolted against your business smarts and kicked you to the curb?
Eventually the truth comes out. NO one thinks McCain can run anything. After all he succeeded in crashing two airplanes. Also, who ever heard of a person who graduated at the bottom of his class in college being able to run a huge organization. This comment from an ex naval officer.
Carly Fiorina was a failure at HP. She ran the company into the ground then arranged for a hefty golden parachute.
Just goes to prove that a woman can be as good, or as bad, as a man. Gender is not the issue, competence is.
Fiorina did not try to clarify anything. She claimed neither McCain, Obama, nor Biden would be able to run a major corporation.
She didn't "flub" anything.
The only thing "flubbed" is your attempt to spin the facts in order to disrupt the context of her original quote. Why does that not surprise me?
When will you people e-v-e-r learn?
vbg
Well, she's partially right. A major problem with the last 8 years is the current administration has tried to run the country like a coroporation. Enron comes instanlty to mind....And the neo cons have the gaul to call Obama elitist.
why on earth is anyone surprised at Obama Hussein 's underhanded campaign? Obama is an inexperienced lying, prentious parrot. He is so talented when it comes to obfuscating the public. He is without any tripidation in to when for his and his familys gain. Remember what he stands for when you listen to recorded messages of his American loving preacher "God f-----America" Nice very nice. His wife and kids have those words and years of American hatred embedded in their thoughts and heart. The blind sheep that follow him can certainly head to salughter if they wish, but do not take the rest of us American Republicans with him and them. Let him run for office in his muslim country, not ours.
Frankly, as a strong Democrat and Obama/Biden supporter, I think that what Ms. Fiorina said was absolutely fine and no big deal. She has the perspective of someone whose main concerns, as a CEO, were not health care policy, education, national defense, etc. but just about only two things: The bottom business line and the development of new products and improvements. To twist this intent and to say it means she flubbed silly. Let's not get petty and try to make something out of nothing. It is a form of deceit.
P.S. If you really want to see her flub it, just listen to her evasive answer when she was asked about the Bridge to Nowhere. She just changed the subject!
Last time we had a 'qualified' corporate Leader running for Prez. the American people chose him over someone who had a vision. We all know where that ended up. G.W.Bush (whom I hardly refer to as prez. let alone leader) nose-dived us in most every way.
Now we have another GOP candidate who promises exactly the same as the previous one (see above), except in a vastly less favorable economical environment.
My take: "Heck, we can't take 4 (four whole) years of that!! Run that cretin out of town on a rail and his wannabe GOP successor with him, already!"
We can hardly be worse off than we are right now so let's give the 'Other'guys a try.
Come to think of it, they are a lot more credible. I mean, no offense but I detest Moose and I even more detest those who try to feed it to me. Real hunters hunt Wild boar but I don't see Mrs."Tanning Station In the Governement Mansion at the cost of the State' going after those and live to tell about it.".
Oh, and as to the present GOP candidate's war credentials?
As a three times deployed Infantry officer I fail to see the benefit of having been subjected to being a POW as seen in the light of qualifications for the Presidency. None whatsoever!!!! On the contrary, I would expect the psychological damage to be disqualifying to the office that carries with it the highest responsibility for our National security. EX POW's are not known to properly fill that spot and I for one don't want to take that risk.
I'd rather have a smart "hoodie" than a hair-trigger PTSD-victim at the RED button.
McCain''s surrogate, former HP CEO Carly Fiorini, says he couldn''t even run any business as a CEO as well as she did---and of course that is a very, very low standard since she ran HP into the ground business wise, stock wise, employee wise....maybe that''s why McCain chose her to speak on his behalf.....She continues her HP ways, but HP now stands for Hot Potato.....bye bye Carly....You make McCain look like Daffy Duck with your comments....He''ll pay for Viagra but not birth control....ooopppssss, he didn''t like you saying that either....a laugh a day from the McCain campaign.
First of all, Fiorina is one of the most irritating mealy mouthed surrogates in either campaign. She's damned near James Carville irritating.
As for her comments, she totally undermined her assertions about Palin's "executive experience."
But don't worry, GOP supporters. Economic flunky Phil Gramm is still around after even a more stupid remarks than Fiorina's.
Former Hot Potato (HP) CEO Carly Fiorini is the one who is also most noted for her Hewlett-Packard quote not long before she got fired: "No American is entitled to a job." She said that as she was outsourcing good American jobs to China....and this is who McCain has been relying on for his "economic policies," for the past 20 months, or as most call it in politics--"his nonsense policies." And you wonder why he admits he doesn't understand economics. It's time to get to work to elect Obama and Biden.
It is absolutely shameful that I am forced to go to Fox News of all places to find the whole story. What happened to journalistic integrity?
Fiorina clearly stated that in her opinion, none of the four politicians are qualified to be CEO of a major corporation, because such a position requires decades of immersion and experience in the business world- something that none of them possess.
Furthermore, the Obama camp is shamefully exploiting this statement by truncating her quote as if she stated that she thought only the Republicans were incapable of running a business incapable of being CEO. That is a blatant misrepresentation of the facts that would make Michael Moore proud.
Carly Fiorina is corrent neither McCain nor Palin could run a company (or a popcorn stand). But, after McCain's out-of-touch remarks on Black Monday, Sep 15, everyone knew that too.
For the airheads that keep sayig that the liberal media has once again taken a comment out of context. !!! WAKE UP!!! It wasn't meant to be taken as verbatem account of what the bonehead said. It was reporting that she said stupid things that CAN be taken out of context. They reported it unbiased. It's your fault you can't read without bias.
And if you expect Obama's boys to not use this gift from g-d, your as big an idiot as the bonehead that said it!!
It's a sad statement about our country that idiots like "martee" still exist. They belong to a different era, but refuse to die. Pathetic and embarrassing to us as a nation.
Willie Sutton is famously quoted for answering a reporter, who asked: Why do you rob banks? He said: "Because that's where the money is."
Willie Sutton is famously quoted for answering a reporter, who asked: Why do you rob banks? He said: "Because that's where the money is."
Then they ask John where he goes for money: "I don't understand economics that well, so let me have Carly Fiorini answer that question for you." Carly says: "He can't run a business either."
Maybe John will turn to Willie Sutton to help him, but it better be soon, because there doesn't appear there'll be much money in banks anymore either if the republicans stay in office.
I heard Fiorina interview. She mention sara,john,barack and joe all in the same
sentence.
NO WONDER THE PRESS HAS NO CREDIBILITY WITH THE AMERICAn PUBLIC.
TRY FOR A WEEK TO REPORT THE NEWS AS THE OCCUR, NOT AS YOU
WOULD LIKE IT TO REPORT THEM.
Question for "MARTEE"
What education do you have, other then maybe a Kindergardern level.
Going to answer or remain a racist.
"He is without any tripidation in to when for his and his familys gain."
'Nuff said.
Ummmm...how hard is it to figure out. Fiorina works for McCain's campaign. When she says Obama and Biden can't run a company she is doing her job, that's not newsworthy. When she says that McCain and Palin, the people that she is being paid to get elected, also don't, then it is obviously not a very smart comment. I can see if she was an independent entity but she is not. She works for McCain, it's her job to say negative things about Obama and Biden. So no, that part does not belong in the headline. Get a clue.
And now, Boston.com. Reporting live from "You Tube"
"Someone posted a heavily edited quote today which I will write an entire article on without any research whatsoever because I like what it says."
I have an idea for everyone out there. Research, the quote. And for the people that want to say she did such a horrible job at HP, was it because of the complex mergers she managed, do you think you could of done better? Her defenders and critics alike credit her with laying the foundation for overtaking Dell. History sometimes makes a leader without regard for our personal opinion. When facts speak louder than fears and quotes speak louder than edits.
Oh, you McCain/Palin delusionists! It's news that Fiorina says McCain and Palin can't run a corporation. It's not news that she adds Obama and Biden because she's supposed to say the opposition can't do anything.
And it's true that Fiorina can't run a corporation either.
And yes, I do want my President and Vice President to be more competent than the average American that Palin claims to be. I don't want "one of us" running this country. I want experienced, intelligent, pragmatic, and idealistic (not ideological) people running this country.
Cody, thanks for giving me another reason not to vote for Obama.
It is important when you bash someone that you at least know how to spell the words in your post correctly otherwise you will appear foolish.
"trepidation"
Martee, settle down or you're gonna blow a gasket! Wow, such venom. Such passion. Stand fast little man. Trust me, when Obama wins you can still rant and rave. And just about as many people will listen.
Breathe, just breathe.
Most of you are missing the point. Fiorina stated the candidates she is supporting would not be able to run a corporation. You would expect her to say the opposing candidates would not be able to run a corporation but not the ones she is supporting! This is called a lack of confidence. The funny thing is her statement , "the country is not a company." That's right, there is a hell of a lot more responsibility involved with running the United States. The fact she is supporting McCain tells you a lot.
For years, Republicans (i.e. Mitt Money for one recent example...) have said they could run the country because they could run a company. Fiorina's comment removes that argument.The Pro-McCain-Palin apologists sure backpeddle on this one but sure make a big issue over Obama saying 'lipstick on a pig' when McCain and other Republicans have used this line over and over again. The phrase, 'If you can't stand the heat get out of the Kitchen' comes to mind about the McCain-Palin ticket. Over 18 million people voted FOR Obama for President; only one person - McCain - voted to put Palin on the ticket.
First off, nice job sliding Obama's middle name in there. Go ahead, call him Saddam Hussein for all I care. Obama is a devout Christian, but even then, Muslim smears do not affect him, because this is America and we are built on higher principles that say that you can adhere to whatever religion you want. My grandfather was born in Iraq, he is a Muslim. Do you actually think that all people of a certain religion think the same? There are extreme Christians and there are extreme Muslims. This is a man who happens to be black and happens to have been to another country for 2 years. Ask yourself this, "Would I be saying this about a white man?" If not then move to the south where most remaining racists reside.
As for underhanded campaigns, look at these two quotes and tell me who is running an underhanded campaign.
"Barack Obama supported sex education for kindergarteners"
- John McCain ad (completely and utterly false, he supported a bill that had teachers inform kids how to notice innapropriate advances from adults)
"Governor Palin's family is absolutely off limits, it is irrelevent, and if anyone on my campaign makes it an issue, I'll have them fired"
- Barack Obama
Which one sounds like an underhanded campaign to you?
Carly is right. Being a CEO takes a different kind of animal. If we ran Washington the way a CEO runs a corporation we would leave the 20,000 people stranded on Galveston to their own devices. You know, cut your losses, don't throw good money after bad. Kind of how Bush dealt with New Orleans. CEOs don't get points for compassion or empathy - they get points for increasing shareholder value. If it means firing 25,000 people, like Carly's HP successor, well, you just do it. Your loyalty is to the shareholders, not your employees. So, Carly's right. None of these people could make it as a CEO. But, of the two - Obama or McCain - which of the two do you think would be more likely to have empathy and compassion for the little folks? Or, if considering Biden and Palin, who would you rather have making life-and-death decisions for you? Case closed.
My butt talks more clearly than the biased liberal media. This is a ridiculous story, and y'all are running with it!!
Go McCain! Go Palin! Go GOP!!!!
"But the damage was done"?
Sounds like wishful thinking by another immature member of the liberal media.
As someone said above, how could her being misquoted have any effect on any kind of voter (thinking or otherwise)?
Not to be unkind, but she's hardly an authority on this subject .
Isn't it time to quit treating this like a high-school election contest?
MEDIA BIAS at it's worst. The Globe is pathetic. You are misquoting her for political gain.
Why did the Globe fail to include her statement about Obama. She said out of the four candidates he was the least qualified to run anything, including the country.
If running the government were anything like running a corporation, Bush wouldn't have been allowed to pile up an extra $4,000,000,000,000 in "corporate" debt. Nor would he leave instead of being forciblly tossed out on his ear immediately after announcing his predecessor would inherit a $460,000,000,000 deficit. He's already committed to spend way more than this "company" will bring in a year after he's gone. How's that for an anchor around the next guys leg? As incompetent as Carly was at her only run as CEO, how can she teach McCain and Palin how do do anything that might turn this around?
They'l just do the same old, same old.
Look, we've crossed the stream but can't seem to stay out of hot water. It IS time to change horses. Let's get on one that has more "horse" sense this time.
James,
Ask any candidate to mathematically explain margin versus mark-up and you will realize that none of them know that much about running a corporation. Your blind faith in Biden and Barrack are self fulfilling prophecies. There is more to America than running a business. If the presidency was based solely on the economy, we should elect Jimmy Buffet.
The democrats are failures. Look at their track record. Now you are shaking in your boots b/c now you know will lose again.
This just demonstrates how bad McCains decision processes are. To take a person that just about ran one of the United States premier technology companies into the ground as an expert on business matters. God help us.
OBAMA / BIDEN 08!! A WINNING COMBINATION. VOTE FOR THEM.
whoa some folks are crazy.
I'll bet any of the candidates, Biden, McSame, Palin, or Obama could run a company and not do too bad. Pretty amateurish punditry!
Vote Obama.
Yes, we can.
We have to.
So, for all the pro-McCain folk who are saying we shouldn't care about Fiorina's statements because she herself failed at business; Then why is she a 'surrogate' for McCain? Shouldn't he be distancing himself from her? I don't know if McCain selected her as 'surrogate' , but if so it demonstrates an inability to select the right person for the job.
Whether she 'flubbed' or not somewhere in here is a strike against McCain.
For once she told the truth. Then she had to mess it up by blaming others for her mistake. Whatever happened to personal responsibility.
Too good to be true. It shows what the truth is and that everyone of any substance in McCain's camp knows it. They just don't often forget to lie instead of offer the truth. Now, I believe her comments about Palin. I don't really think she is right about McCain, Obama or Biden. They could all handle HP, better than she did. *ell, I could do it better myself.
Let's see what McCain says about that.
Even if Obama loses it will have provided the whole world great comedy on this superb country we live in!. The double standards are just breath taking. Lets hold Obama accountable for every single thing he says, lets hold him accountable for every single thing his pastor says, lets hold him accountable for what his wife says, lets hold him accountable for the FAlSEHOOD that the press is PRO_OBAMA....but lets not hold McCain nor Palin responsible for anything.
Obama did not steal his nomination, he fought for it and he won fair and square. Just like McCain won his nomination fair and square.
All of the questionable people McCain is associated with lets not discuss that. All of the questionable things that Palin has done including claiming that soldiers are on a mission from God, Polar bears should not be on the endangered list, firing all who cannot bow down to her authority, that is all understanble.
I know I know it hurts that Obama made it this far, maybe he will win the race and maybe he will not.
If Great Britain can have Thatcher, Pakistan Bhuto, India Indra...why can't we have a female president? We the equal society that we are! We are so equal we need to teach the whole world how to be equal.
What has a beginning must also have an end, the Presidency will not forever be held by a male or a white person. The US will one day have a president who might be Black, Asian, or a non White, it will also one day have a Woman President, and yes even a president of a different religion. You cannot hold the tide for ever! You might not live to see it but your great grandchildren will!
It's true that Fiorina tried to mop up after herself by adding that NONE of the candidates could run a large corporation, but her original flub stands. She wasn't talking about anyone but Caribou Barbie when she said she wasn't qualified. I'm not wholly sure why anyone is complaining about that remark, it seems to be common knowledge that Palin is little more that a pretty face on a ruthless opportunist.
Hell, I'd vote for Tina Fe before I voted for Palin, and that's the truth.
Another brilliant move DIMS! More out of context statements that show off your glistening abilities to absorb an entire story.
This is a perfect example of why the DIM party is soooo hopeless.
Keep up the good work, because it does give us some giggles!
So what is the difference between the American government and a corporation, then? There's more office politics and interdivisional infighting in government, sure, but apart from that...?
ANYONE can run a company. It certainly doesn't take brains. Think of the people you have worked for/with. Does anyone believe owning/running/managing a company takes talent? Look at George Bush. He "ran" the whole US, didn't he, and hired everyone under him? Look at what a GREAT job he did.
palin is a liar, i can't believe the republicans are so dumb to not see this. anyone can tell a fake. but if the american people vote for mccain/palin, than i guess we deserve what we will be getting, and that is another four years of the same misery we have been in. wake up America and vote OBAMA!!!
martee who posted on September 16, at 08 07:40 PM post # 24 is guilty of all that she is accusing Obama of. Sorry Martee, but you are so unbalanced on this that you are coming across like a lying Rebpublican. You need to take lessons from the bible and from the fundamentals of American democracy - truth counts. You don't have it, you don't count.
# 24 martee's comments reflects a racist mentality that is at the core of his misguided beliefs. I'd call you a moron, but that would be at the risk of insulting moron's worldwide. How did you get this way? Carly was right, in spite of her own shortcomings. mccain & PALIN could not manage a lemonade stand without a team of business experts on their payroll. Obama will be our next president . Get used to it martee!
Wow, "martee," maybe you can learn to spell and use your big words correctly, and resort to logic and specific example rather than name-calling and lying.
Yes, Palin doesn't have the chops to be a CEO. She couldn't even deal with the administrative responsibilties as mayor of a small 7,000-population town, so hired someone else to take over many of the responsibilities always handled by previous Wasila mayors.
Fiorini brought McCain, Obama, and Biden into the picture as a means to justify her original comment that Palin is essentially incompetent.
Lastly, "martee," no campaign is as underhanded as the Rovian-style McCain-Palin, which is reacing new lows in modern American politics.
The truth is she is a close political advisor who has spent significant time with McCain. She speaks from experience in dealing with him on a highly-trusted and confidential level. She does not have the same insight into Obama and Biden. Her criticism is MOST valid for the people she knows best.. This race would not even be close if not for the racist fools that would vote for a white-bread ham sandwich, as long as it had an "R" next it.
The fact is, Fiorina couldn't run a corporation...
But, according to McCain's camp, he invented the Blackberry!
McCain’s economic adviser, Doug Holtz-Eakin, held a conference call this morning apparently forgetting that if you make a grandiose invention claim you just might be the subject of ridicule.
No matter. The adviser blazed ahead and claimed John McCain was partly responsible for inventing the popular PDA.
Holding up his BlackBerry, campaign adviser Holtz-Eakin announced, “Telecommunications of the United States is a premier innovation in the past 15 years – comes right through the Commerce Committee – so you’re looking at the miracle John McCain helped create and that’s what he did.”
Well . . . here it is:
Of all the possible choices, McCain chose a running mate whose views and values are the same as Bush.
PALIN IS BUSH!
I want change!
McCain/Palin: The Bridge to Nowhere.
Boston Globe is pathetic and in the tank for Oscrewmymama. Why don't you report the whole comment rather then splice the tidbits you like???? Frickenscum!
And before people cry SEXISM...
Woudl someone please explain why the RNC which is busy slamming the press and Obama's campaign with sexismn against womenkind and Palin....printed those buttons "Coldest State Hottest Governor"
Now if that is not sexism I need to go back and re-learn which definition applies when. No one called Arnorld Schwarznegger "Hot" or any other male Governor and am sure if we look we can find one who could wear that title.
"Obama Hussein 's underhanded..." Republican's must be really torqued that they had to settle for the least appealing candidate for president. At least the Democrats could claim their candidate selection came down to a virtual coin toss. Wow! Their campaign season was exciting. Not that I would vote for either of the major party's candidates; the Dems and Repubs are just two sides of the same bad penny. Both of them content to just keep piling on the debt - Democrats spend more than they can tax and Republicans borrowing (from the Chinese) more than we can repay - until the day that the rest of the world just decided US debt isn't worth investing in anymore. Then the US will be just like all the other 3rd World countries that have to implement draconian austerity programs to make their balance of payments. When did you hear McCain or Obama talk about this problem? No, you won't.
"why on earth is anyone surprised at Obama Hussein 's underhanded campaign?"
Oh No! Another tard invokes the name "Hussein"! Stale stale stale. How dare you accuse the Obama campaign of lying whae McCain's is probably the most dishonest of all time? He is dirty like Nixon and the Watergate boys. Whan will we learn that the "all-American" bunch (GOP)are frauds and fanatics. Oh, and rednecks.
To those with the snarky comments about "why don;t you point out that she mentioned Obama and Biden as well." The POINT is that she is a McCain supporter. Let me repeat, she is a McCain supporter. Yet, she does not believe that EVEN HE could run a fortune 500 company. If you believe that her job as a (failed) CEO was more difficult than being President of the USA, then I feel that your teachers have failed you.
most of you are idiots.... if you cant understand what she met by her remark... Am a CEO I got it!!!!
SHE WORKS WITH MCCAIN/PALIN SHE KNOWS THEM , THERE ABILITIES TO RUN A CORP SHE DOES NOT WORK WITH OBAMA AND ANY JUDGMENT WOULD BE SPECULATIVE AT BEST. HER ASSESSMENT OF MCCAIN/PALIN IS OBJECTIVE AND NOTEWORTHY. THATS WHY OBAMA FOCUSED ON THAT AS THEY SHOULD HAVE. IF SHE ONLY SAID THAT ABOUT OBAMA/BIDEN, OR OBAMA CAMP SAID THAT ONLY ABOUT MCCAIN/PALIN IT WOULD NOT BE NEWS. IF OBAMA'S OWN CAMP SAID THOSE THINGS ABOUT HIM IT WOULD BE FRONT PAGE REGARDLESS IF THE MEMBER OF HIS CAMP LABELED BOTH TICKETS AS SUCH.
Sarah Palin said the crisis in the financial markets affects all Americans and people should not have to bail out bankrupt firms. “Federal agencies are failing to defend you–are failing to defend the public interests and reckless CEOS are walking off with multi-million dollar severance deals. Money taken from what’s left of some of these companies that they were supposed to be serving.”
Palin did not mention that one of those CEOs works for the McCain-Palin campaign. Former Hewlett Packard CEO and senior McCain advisor Carly Fiorina received a 42 million dollar severance package when she was fired. Half of the package included stock options and holdings.
Can someone please explain: When you join the Republican Party, are you taught how to lie out of your ass? Do you just chuck any sense of morals? Do they excise your conscience?
easy, easy marte, your intelligence is showing. Go Obama Go
Considering what is happening in this country, it doesn't seem like many people can run a corporation responsibly.
C'mon republicans... be realistic. If this one liner was mumbled by a democrat you'd be all over it. Carla screwed up. In a couple of days it will all be forgotten.
On the other hand, lack of regulation so touted by republicans has caused the financial sector to all but implode and that won't be forgotten, especially when the taxpayers have to bail out all those republican controlled businesses.
Face the music and realize the way out of this mess is Obama, not McCain
Face
McCain and the Repugs started dirty campaigning weeks ago, telling endless lies and distortions, and the dim witted American public bought into it. Obama had no choice but to follow him into the gutter. Look at their positions and background, and its clear that Obama is the best choice to lead America into the future.
They edited her statement in mid sentence. She included all of them... Obama, Biden, and McCain. You people are so quick to be dumb.
@Martee:
I'm part of the spelling/usage monitoring group of Spell-Rite USA.
1. Is "prentious" a word? That's new to me.
2. Using "obfuscating" in that sense is also unclear to me. (Pardon the pun).
3. What is "tripidation"?
As an aside:
a). Obama is not a Muslim.
b). I think John McCain has his own Reverend Wright
in John Hagee. Remember him?
Someday in the future the American Republicans may all migrate to Jesusland.
I promise they'll keep a spot open for you.
Carly knew that John McCain called for a commission to investigate the cause of this crisis. We know what the cause is. What are the solutions. Obama and his team have solutions. McCain and his team need a commission to figure it out. Commissions like the 9/11 commission are created to talk the subject to death. Leaders act. John McCain wants more talk.
WOW! Talk about bias. The Boston Globe (and most other major media outlets) are failing to report the entire quote. Fiorina went on to include Obama and Biden along with McCain.
This 'news'paper reads more like a liberal blog than an objective source of information.
You want to know why Obama cannot put this election away EVEN THOUGH he has the mainstream media in his pocket??? Because people are starting to realize how liberally biased the media is.
The Bush/McCain/Palins are squealing like stuck pigs with lipstick when Obama uses one of their tricks back on them. This is the lowest dirtiest republican campaign ever. I miss Nixon.
So if running a large corporation has little or nothing in common with running a country, and vice versa, then what the hell is she doing as McCain's top ECONOMIC advisor?
martee-
you have accurately portrayed your republican comrades.
youre a very sick and weak minded individual and beyond anyone's help.
so sorry.
So if running a large corporation has little or nothing in common with running a country, and vice versa, then what the hell is she doing as McCain's top ECONOMIC advisor?
The GOPers seem so very incensed over the perceived misrepresentations reflected in this story....hmmm.. but they were so quiet when the McCain campaign ran the ad featuring: "OBAMA PASSES A BILL TO TEACH SEX EDUCATION TO KINDERGARTNERS".....that seems ok to a REPUBLICAN.....they believed that to be "accurate"....they all said that there was nothing wrong with that...so....stop the whining RWers.....as McCain said: "Politics is a tough business"
“I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation. I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation. I don’t think Joe Biden could run a major corporation. But on the other hand a major corporation is not the same as being the president or vice president of the United States,” Fiorina said.
“I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation. I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation. I don’t think Joe Biden could run a major corporation. But on the other hand a major corporation is not the same as being the president or vice president of the United States,” Fiorina said.
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“I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation. I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation. I don’t think Joe Biden could run a major corporation. But on the other hand a major corporation is not the same as being the president or vice president of the United States,” Fiorina said.
Obama is neither a muslim nor an anti-american, but you repubs can keep being ignorant. Talk about lying parrots look at the whole repub party.
Why do so many think the "ability" to run a major corporation qualifies one to be president? In light of the current financial mess, for which CEO's bear a large responsibility they don't seem willing to take, maybe the ability to run a major corporation ought to disqualify one from being president! As far as Fiorina goes, she was a dismal failure at HP. More irrelevancy being passed of as relevant to the campaign, sigh!
"I KNOW that both Obama and Biden could run major corporations, and run them well."
No career politician could do any such thing. Even worse, lawyers. How many successful CEOs can you name that have a law degree? As a CEO myself, I've never met one. Not one.
Fiorina was right. I don't know her, but she was and is experienced and knows what she's talking about, a good deal more than the reporters who are gleefully misquoting her. I find that those who have tried and failed gain experience which can, in time, bloom into wisdom. I'd listen to her.
John McCain finished 894th out of 899 in his naval acadamy graduating class. Based on that abysmal showing I wouldn't trust him to run a lemonade stand. Intelligence does matter. Look at dumbshit Bush's brilliant decisions. But if morons like martee above ("prentious parrot" duhhhhhh.....) want to vote for other morons they deserve what they get. Hey martee, let just NUKE EVEBODY WHOSE
AINT WITE LIKE WE R!
I find it fascinating that the Obama McCain accusses McCain of "lies and spin" while doing the EXACT same kind of spin! Clearly...Fiorina thinks McCain is capable to be our president in this time or she wouldn't be one of his suggorates. Clearly she was criticizing the use of "politics as business" analogy and not McCain's abilities. Obama isn't the man of HOPE he claims to be. He's all about dirty, negative attacks too! Game over!
The Government is not a business, but should use some of the business yard sticks.
Lowering revenue and increasing spending will cause a company to go belly up, and it will the Government as well, it just will take longer.
The problems on Wall Street proves that bills need to be paid and risks need to be considered. That needs to happen in both Government and Industry.
If you want someone who doesn't care about the long term, believes that you can sell snake oil that there is a free lunch of lower tax's and an ever increasing economy, vote for someone who cannot be trusted to run a business.
Me I will vote for someone who at least appears to have some common sense.
If Democrats in general, and Obama in particular, operate like this where they cut and paste someone's statement to the point where they deliberately distort their meaning and intent, it makes you wonder where else they use such tactics. From now on one must filter their information or claims through the prism of asking "what's been left out?" or "what has been rearranged to change the intent or original meaning?" If they play loose with such a minor deal as this, what would they do with something of more consequence???
She has not been an effective surrogate either.
She has a horrible presence.
Seems like she has "been in business all of her life" and failed. I did not see any other corporations rushing to sign her up after she was ousted from HP.
Interesting that she amends her statement that McCain and Palin "could learn" how to run a business but Obama and Biden could not.....as evidenced by????based on what?????
She is incredible in the purest meaning of the word.
You are all wrong...I have run corporations and I can run this country...at least as well as Obama and Biden...but then 90% of the population could run it better than Obama and Biden.
To say that running a country is different than a corporation is like saying water is different than h20..they both require a lot more skill than Obama, Biden and sadly McCain, Palin...they all four fall into the 10% that shouldn't be running anything except their mouths...thank heaven that is all they can do. If they tried doing anything, they would do some serious damage.
So either side will do no harm if they will just keep talking the nonsense they have so far. Save America--keep them talking about silliness so they don't wreck something important. ssj.
Dear Martee, you either just got done doing lines off the DC madams ass in which case I understand your confusion, or you are actually Tucker from John's campaign...or you're actually Stephen Colbert and you're just f'ing with us. I hope it's the first one. So, the blind sheep calling the kettle muslim. Tell me, in what religion is treason acceptable? Second, is war pro-life? The sh*tbags that your vote represents are the epitome of what's broken in this great country. I have to admit, it's nice that the neocons finally have a candidate that has actually been in a war...Although his service is commendable and appreciated, it was a long time ago, and today he's fit for a straight jacket. Are you that oblivious? Even f*!&ing Rove (who should be in jail for treason) and Fox is calling your candidate a liar...get over it, this country needs change and your man can't deliver. In this case, he can't even use a computer...McCain, if you're out there, I'm sorry you don't know how to use a computer to defend yourself at this site...great job inventing the BlackBerry though. Please forward this to Cindy so she can respond, should you like to get a word in..
Carly Fiorina, by far, is the most overrated business person on the planet. Why John McCain---or any one for that matter, would seek out her advice is baffling to me. Her stint at HP was a disaster----she needs to take her millions and go away. Just like the boys and girls of Lehman and Merrill Lynch.
I'm a lifelong independent. I've thought about Obama and McCain a great deal as have many of you - Decision 2008 is clearly a fork in the road. But for me it boils down to this - to get anything done in Washington you have to wheel and deal with Congress (particularly on the budget and domestic policy). McCain has been there for 26 yrs, 22 as a Senator. Obama is just 3 years into his first Senate term. During the campaign Obama has taken numerous positions that Congress may balk at - today, for example, he proposed eliminating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and there's also the Global Poverty Act - check that out!! Bottom line is I think we have some serious problems that must be addressed and I think McCain is more likely to be able to work with Congress on solving them.
I've imagined the transcript of the little double-minded dialog that must have been going on in Fiorina's head at the moment she was asked the question by Andrea Mitchell:
Carly's Ego: "Must be loyal & Republican, even if lying is required ...."
Carly's Id: "Wait! I was CEO of HP, and was dumped by a board that deemed *me* unqualified. Does that make me unqualified to say that Sarah's qualified? Damn, better just say no, but Geez, my head hurts."
Carly's Ego: "Must ... stick ... to ... talking points ...."
Carly's Id: "Damn, a woman asked me this question? That ain't supposed to happen. Andrea, you really expect me to say that Sarah's more qualified for my old CEO job than I was??? Cannot ... not wired for this ...."
Carly's Super-Ego (as referee): "Damn McCain -- didn't somebody tell him that I'm more qualified to be Veep than Sarah? Fine! She's qualified to run HP! Let her have it! I'm the better VP anyway! Why can't you people see it?"
Then after all the damage was done, surely this: "Why couldn't I ever get Cindy's Botox guy? All I needed was to *look* like I was maintaining my composure."
Fantastic. As a Democrat, I'm so glad (or maybe concerned) that a CEO forced out from her previous job for accusations of abuse of power and lack of secrecy, and obviously not successful in reversing her company's fortunes with HP, is the CHIEF economic adviser to the Republican administration.
With an inept candidate like McCain not being fit to "run a corporation," let alone speak of economics, how can we accomplish anything successful as a country in the years to come?
NEWS CONFERENCES FOR PALIN!!!! NEWS CONFERENCES FOR PALIN!!!!! NEWS CONFERENCES FOR PALIN!!! She needs to face the national press corp to prove she is not a FRAUD(which I think she is)!
Slice and dice and come up with the opinion that suites your own political propaganda. My goodness had Obama aired the whole video in place of one that is cut for his benefit he would have nothing to back up his false claim.
Number one reason for not voting for Obama A TOTAL LACK OF ETHICS
Why are people, particularly the journalist type who are presumably well-informed, arguing about a no-brainer like this “news”? When was the last time a major US corporation hired a well-known politician as its CEO? Not in this century! That ought to answer how the vast majority of the board members at major US corporations feel about letting politicians run their companies. Ms. Fiorina is merely expressing their sentiment, and I applaud her honesty.
martee....you are a bigoted, stupid idiot...OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM!!!!! Catch up with the rest of the "thinking, understanding, intelligent" world! That fact has been sliced and diced and proven that HE IS NOT A MUSLIM! Crawl back to your slimy Republican cave!
Carly spoke fact instead of spin. Ohmagod. The McCain campaign will have none of that (nor, apparently, will his blogging supporters). So, first, shoot the messenger. Then, bring out the mudslingers...
Obama lacks ethics? You're mired in your own slime. Deal with it! Troopergate is the mere tip of a rapidly melting iceberg that threatens to drown your gal pal, Sarah! Hope you all can swim!
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