McCain raises eyebrows in Spain

I'm willing to bet he didn't know who Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero was. He tried to "cover it up", but he didn't do a very good job of it! I guess that's a "glitch in his his "foreign policy experience"!

I guess he can't see Spain from his house.

It is perfectly clear what McCain is saying here.
He promises to confront all leaders whose governments refuse to waterboard their prisoners for information, invade countries based on false reports of WMDs, or deny any resposibility for climate change. This should keep him just as unpopular as our current president, which is just beginning of our current problems in the world economy.

This is actually quite scary. Before this campaign, McCain didn't have a history of this sort of gaffe. Now we've got this one, the Sunni/Shia mixup, the Iraq borders Pakistan gaffe. This is supposed to be his strong suit.

Just taking a stand

It is perfectly clear what McCain is saying here.
He promises to confront all leaders whose governments refuse to waterboard their prisoners for information, invade countries based on false reports of WMDs, or deny any resposibility for climate change. This should keep him just as unpopular as our current president, which is just beginning of our current problems in the world economy.

Can't see spain from any of his 7 houses?

"I will meet with those leaders who are our friends and who want to work with us cooperatively," McCain replied, ***according to one translation***.

Was McCain speaking Spanish? I hope he isn't betraying the values of this country.

^ The question is which house? Come on, give the old guy a break. He probably couldn't remember if we were friendly with Spain or not.

Which house?

Which house? We all know he doesn't even know how many houses he has!

I think Sen McCain is well aware that the Spanish capitulated to the terrorists after the Madrid bombings. Spain is no longer a friend of the US. Good for McCain.

Obviously he knows who Zapatero is. He just has the common sense not to meet with leaders with friendly ties to terrorists in the Middle East. Spain's government has become Al Qaeda's best friend in Europe and McCain chose a passive-aggressive way of making that clear. That much is 100% clear, in spite of Dems desperately trying to make something stick in a panic over McCain's national lead.

Wait a minute, which house? He has 9.

Stupidity is so contagious :)

Could somebody tell McCain that Zapatero is a Prime Minister of Spain, not President? Spain is a kingdom.

Obama will meet with Zapatero after he visits all the US 57 states. At least that was his last count.

Why would McCain paint himself into a corner with regards to whether he would meet with or not the President of Spain.

In addition, he is in a foreign country. To blast that countries President is probably not a good idea, don't you think?

The media will twist anything he says anyway. The bottom line, no candidate can say what they will do exactly until they get there.

I wish the media would simply report news and stop editorializing everything!

These comments from republicans are gold...keep thiniking it was his strategy, he did not even repeat the spain PM's name and was very vague. He had no idea who the interviewer was speaking about, could have been cube, venezuela, spain, they're all latin names

Does McCain know who Zapatero is? More importantly, does he know that Spain is in Europe? He seemed unsure. He does realize that Spain is an ally, right? I wouldn't want him to bomb them accidentally. This is not ignorance we can believe in.

What is he trying to do now?? Is he serious? Spain? And who posted that they've got ties to terrorist networks? Don't you remember the train episode in Madrid - I think they've been targeted terrorists as well! Come on! So we've got one Republican who doesn't have any foreign policy experience and the other who doesn't want to talk to anyone! That's just ducky...

This just goes to prove once again that John McCain, besides losing his faculties, is stuck in the old world Republican thought process of George Bush that has left us with very few allies in a very tumultuous world. To see him as President, with his lack of judgment displayed by his VP choice scares the hell out of me. If we continue to meet with friends only he can close the West Wing conference room, and move it an East Wing broom closet

Hey McSorley, your an idiot... If he wanted to make a statement ..wait, never mind your too stupid to get it....you must thing Bush is the "best"

Maybe he'll text the Spanish leader his support. Or maybe email. What is "text" in Spanish?

There really should be a compression exam before people are allowed to comment. Who cares if he doesn't know how many houses he owns? Most are investment property and managed by a business manager. Is it a bad thing that he is wealthy enough to have the properties or a business manager to run them? MaCain's focus should be on public policy not managing his own affairs so I view that as a positive. Also, instead of hating people for their wealth, maybe it's a better idea to learn from them and mimic their actions to generate some wealth yourself? Finally, regarding Spain...Spain is insignificant to our interests. I don't doubt that he did not recognize the name...it's not at the top of his agenda. Have any of you ever blanked on a name of a co-worker that you rarely interact with?

How is Spain friendly with Al Qaeda exactly? Al Qaeda bombed them, lots of people died in that bombing in Madrid. They left Iraq, but that doesn't make them friends of Al Qaeda, that makes them a nation who came to the conclusion that being in Iraq was not worth it. Every nation should have the choice in making that call.

Is the right so limited in its thinking that anyone who doesn't see the world the exact same way as them must be a terrorist?

This story is a non issue, it won't hurt McCain one bit. It didn't hurt Bush when he didn't know who the ruler of Jordan was in 2000... McCain won't get hurt for not knowing this, or not knowing that Iran is actually not connected to Al Qaeda (which he doesn't know it would appear). It will be an issue if he gets elected, but I doubt this will have any impact on his chances.

> Spain's government has become Al Qaeda's best friend in Europe

...a lie repeated enough times is no more (perceived as) a lie. Is that what you are trying to start here?

Mark McSorley, back in April, John McCain was asked about our strained relations with Spain (GWB was angry, so Spain is no good!!). McCain said he would like to fix the strained relations and get our friendship back on track. Why now is he flip-flopping on this? Because he didn't know the prime minister by name! He had no clue that the questioner was talking about Spain

Whoa, Karen S and Mark McSorley...what have YOU been smoking? "Spain is no longer a friend of the US. "??? "Spain's government has become Al Qaeda's best friend in Europe"??? Come ON. Those are such completely preposterous, baldly false statements, it defies belief! What are you basing those claims on? The rightwing, jingoistic Koolaid you've been drinking or what?! For your information Spain is a member of NATO.

Why don't you do a little reading on the subject before you post such drivel!

It's hard to know whether McCain is becoming senile or is just not that bright (he did graduate in the bottom 1% of his class at the Naval Academy). I hope it's the latter, because stupidity is not progressive and will not, by itself, force him to leave office early, turning the reins over to his vice president.

Sounds like a "senior moment" to me--a safe response when he can't remember who the person is. Refusing to meet the leader of Spain would be a really stupid position. I wouldn't be surprised to hear this though from the same person who would choose Palin as veep.

To comment #13:
A true leader should be assertive and direct about their positions, not passive aggressive. We already have a "leader" that pulls that crap, and he has gotten us into one mess after another. We should expect more from our next president than the low standard that Bush has been held to. No matter what the reason for McCain's lack of acknowledgement, whether he didn't know/forgot or he was trying to sneak in a jab at spain, it is unacceptable.

Mark McSorley has it. For commentators who attempt to distract, you should listen to the actual interview.

First of all, the interviewer presumably is a native Spanish speaker, and English is her second language (I surmise, given that at one point in the interview, she says something to the effect of, "I forget the word. . ."). The interview was conducted in English, so Spain is reacting to a translation. The article above implies that the interview was in Spanish, and McCain's words were then re-translated back to English -- not the case.

So, Spain's confusion is based, perhaps, on multiple translation errors.

McCain was simply being non-commital to a White House dialog with Spain uniquely. He wasn't shutting the door to any world leader, provided their general adherence to democratic ideals.

The oddity here is why Spain? While McCain would no doubt acknowledge that he has an open channel for dialog with Spain, EU members, or other nation states, wouldn't it seem odder if McCain checked his foreign policy with Spain? So, ultimately, McCain is saying, "OK -- I'll talk with Spain, and any other 'nice' country" but it's implicit that Spain does not have some sort of magic aura that the US must have a special relationship with them, exclusive of other nations.

Wow! I can understand that argument against meeting with people who could be called our enemies (Iran). I disagree with that position, but I understand it.

But is McCain seriously suggesting that he may not meet with an ally?

"That much is 100% clear, in spite of Dems desperately trying to make something stick in a panic over McCain's national lead."

Sorry buddy...I guess you haven't checked the polls lately.....Obama has retaken the lead after the "Palin" bubble burst!!

And as for the jab at Spain...clearly you are a typical right wing Rethug who still views the world thru "Bush" tinted glasses!

Repent and get a brain!!

No, McCain really thinks Spain is in Latin America. He can see it from one of the islands on one of Cindy's estates.

to angry@ignorance: We should learn from McCain how to become wealthy? So I should have my father and grandfather become Admirals and get me into the Naval Academy where I finish in the bottom of my class. Then after I crash five planes, one of them in Vietnam, I can become a media darling and turn that into a political career? Then I should not be concerned with managing my own affairs, because I'm focused on public policy? Then I should insult and disregard any country, even allies that aren't significant enough or countries where I just blanked out on the name of the leader because they're like co-workers that I never work with?

Yes, its a translation problem. Clearly McSame became confused when the interviewer referred to Prime Minister Shoemaker. Yup.

Republicans are pure comedy gold.

Kidding aside, McCain has to keep feeling the effects, physically and mentally, of his time spend as a POW and pilot. His health seems to be a liability for him.

After the American people elect President McCain and Vice President Palin in November over the anointed socialist one, it will serve notice that the majority of American people flatly reject socialism in all forms. So McCain is doing right by not meeting with Spain.
And for those of you rejoicing that Obama has again a slight lead in the polls, check the electoral map, and if still not disheartened think Tom Bradley.

Obviously, he still thinks we are at war with Spain. It's forgivable, after he was there when it happened.

Obviously, he still thinks we are at war with Spain. It's forgivable, after he was there when it happened.

Spain gives in to terrorists' demands. They are no friend of the US. End of story.

Not only is this the precise attitude that has put our country on the brink of meltdown (e.g., reality does not matter), the knee jerk lying is a vivid preview of what we can expect if--please, NO--these troglodytes are elected.

And you can't see Russian from Wasilla Alaska, either. All you can see there is the meth capital of Alaska, where men are men and everything else is scared. That these two are actually real candidates of a major party to be President of the United States is unbelievably painful. What happened to Lincoln's party?

Here we go again. Remeber - the only "foreign" country George W. travaled to before his presidnecy was Mexico? It is so scary that these isolated hicks are involved with policy making and representing our this nation.

Thanks John -- appreciate your contribution over the years.
But the rest of us will take it from here.

Sad old dogs ought not be asked to learn new tricks.
Or in your case -- even remember the old ones.

You're becoming pathetic & painful for us to even watch.
Please go gracefully.

If McCain doesn't know how many houses he has, he definitely didn't know who the heck the interviewer was talking about.....This guy's ignorance is too pathetic to be funny

Wait, Spain is not in Latin America? Who what me?

McCain is sounding more like Guiliani lately, except his baby is Iraq instead of Guiliani's 9/11.

Both him and Palin are going around the country, spending tax payers money, giving speeches and saying things without ever knowing WTF they're saying. And they seem to be stealing all their campaign ideas from Obama's campaign. What they mean by Change?? It doesn't even make sense. It's different for the Democrats to say Change. McCain just grabs whatever seems to be cool and in vogue without understanding if it really makes sense to use it.

May be it's just me, but he also seems to be surrounding himself with glamor factors without any IQ.

John is still angry about the Spanish-American war of 1898...blame it on bad childhood memories.

Based on the comments from the bloggers it seems Liberal Democrats are the one's inciting hatred.

It's a little bit alarming that McCain could provide only a stock and rather meaningless answer to a very directed, specific follow-up question. I suspect this may be the Palin effect : say you know what to do, you are prepared, and you are ready to play stump the chump, er candidate.

Zapatero is not really a friend to our beliefs. and for all these people who keep saying the right wingers need to stop pandering etc.

really stop with the houses, age, etc. find another more meaningful argument.

Days following the bombings Spain elected José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, an upset win for the country's opposition Socialists.

On that day, a terror attack swayed a country's vote and gave terrorism a shot in the arm. Today, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero pledged to sever it's alliance with the US. Another win for terror.

What is the message being sent around the world? Who's national elections are next? Will our own DHS raise the terror level to RED come November?

This is a sad turn of events.

Zapatero is a socialist. I am sure Obama and him would get along very well.

maybe these "i am so much smarter than you" liberals should do some research and learn a little bit about this man

nope the better arguement is 7 houses 7 houses.

Based on the responses from the right wing nut jobs (and it seems there is no shortage of them in this country) - I'm getting confused on who and what we're fighting and why. From what I recall, Spain is a US ally... despite how badly we've screwed the pooch in international affairs under Dumbya, it's amazing we still HAVE allies, but there you go.

So you people are advocating that in addition to the entire Middle East, Latin America, Eastern Europe, China, Russia and France -- we now have to worry about SPAIN?? So who do we actually like in this world again besides ourselves? England (who is starting to sour on us too) and... I guess that's it? Just us and England and let's fight everyone else. Do we have enough bombs for that? Because we're already running short on soldiers and we're only involved in wars with two countries right now.

Holy right wing nut jobs. Do some travelling. Meet some people who aren't like you. Get outside the country and actually TALK to these people you want to fight. Maybe you'll realize what a gigantic mess the rednecks in this country are making of things. Spain is not our enemy. France is not our enemy. Get a grip on yourselves and get off the Bush-warmonger koolaid. McCain is an idiot.

So what? Give McCain a break. Ronald Regan was considered a good president, and HE had Alzheimer's. Besides, if McCain goes completely senile in office- Sarah Palin can take the reins. She's qualified to run the country because her sons play hockey, so what's the big deal?

I can't imagine anyone trying to defend this remark on a policy basis. What does it matter if Zapatero is a socialist, federalist, communist or any of the above? He is the representative of an allied democracy, with troops committed in Afghanistan, which has the inalienable right to deal with terrorists in their country in their own way. Why the hell should our interests trump theirs? Oh, that's right, the world is only there as a resource for raw materials feeding the American industrial machine and other governments are only out there as our proxy, and damn them if they don't play along. The point is, we've alienated everyone, friend or foe, over the last 8 years. Spain is undeniably a friend. John's already working hard at changing that. He likes to compare himself to Teddy Roosevelt, but the only thing they have in common is a predilection for gunboat diplomacy. Somebody should remind McCain that gunboat diplomacy only works when you're the one with the bigger gunboat. Our's is a little leaky right now.

His response can mean one of several things, all of them problematic: (1) he didn't know who Zapatero is (2) he is truly committed to blunt trauma as a diplomatic policy (3) he is incapable of expressing himself with clarity, tact or diplomacy, leaving his statements open to whatever interpretation fits the reader's predisposition. We've had 8 years of a man who trips over his own tongue, mangles the english language, and couldn't strategize his way out of a paper bag. It was funny when Yogi Berra did it. It's embarrassing/dangerous when Bush does it. I want someone in the White House who can think, learn, speak and act, preferably in that order.

McCain is a frightening re-run of Bush. Remember the old Gil Scott Herron song "Re-Ron"? He's a Re-Ron, the late, late, show - a black and white flick from ages ago....." McCain is a re-run we can't afford.

In fairness, Spain has has only been our ally since the 1950's.

Don't some of you people want any friends in the world? Who is good enough for you? Are you really this smug and ignorant? This isn't about Republicans and Democrats with many of you. You have no sense of history, no perspective and are an appalling example of what is wrong with this country. If a person appears to be intelligent or open minded he or she is branded a commie or some other such nonsense. Honestly, you are really frightening.

MCain has early Alzheimers, kids. I'm serious about this.

Remind me again why all of you liberal democrat s are so afraid of Palin? Last time I checked, Obama was running againt McCain.
I'm sure none of you are better off than you were eight years ago either...oh unless the only folks who live in all of these mcMansions that popped up all over the state are owned only by republicans.

...he was kidding, right? seriously, his comments are pretty scary on a couple of counts: first, exactly how does one 'confront' leaders who may not have "the same principles and philosophy that we do" without meeting them?? Do we do tht with sanctions, missiles, or invasion? Hopefully, not. Where is the 'we agree to disagree respectfully' aspect of political dialog that the next administration must exhibit to gain standing and influence it has lost during the past 8 years? And, second, Spain is hardly a target for our bluster and enmity: It is a sovereign nation that we count among our 'friends'. For those who don't know, it has been an EU country since 1986 and, as a member of NATO since 1982 (after Franco died), it has contributed--militarily and otherwise-- to efforts in Kosovo, Darfur, and Afghanistan. Even John Mc Cain should appreciate that!! Unfortunately, the inescapable conclusion is that, because he was tired or just forgetful, John Mc Cain just did not recognize the name and was buying time and a verbal escape route with his vacuous pronouncement . Four more years of vacuous pronouncements are not what this country needs.

I am an independent and was a huge fan of McCain when he was running against GWB in 2002. Many Independents like myself admired him as he truly seemed like a maverick. Unfortunately, at some point shortly after 2002 the real slim shady showed up. Anyone who has voted with GWB 90% of the time is either an idiot or has been bought. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe that he has been bought by special interests. And why not, most of his campaign team are lobbyists. Its not matter of being a liberal, or a democrat or a republican. It's about who is best for the USA at this time. I'm sorry, but as an Independent, I will not watch idly as another 4 years of Bushleague policy is implemented. How much farther must this country sink before folks realize that Bush and his cronies only care about lining their pockets. There is a better candidate, his name is Barak Obama. I truly believe as an Independent that this man will fight for all of us, not just he wealthy and well off. One other thing to remember. This country was founded on the belief that church must be seperated from state. So please, all you hypocrytes please leave religion where it belongs, at home.

The way that I understood it was that McCain answered the question with a general answering for not only meeting with Zapatero, but is open to speak with any leader of a country that upholds similar principles that our county holds.

I think that many people are looking for the bad in everything with either of the candidates. We need to start looking for the positives and ensure that the positive out-weigh the negatives.

Maybe McCain should have made a few excuses about his country, or he should have just flat out lied a.k.a. Pulled an Obama.

I thought you wacko liberalshad gone to far when you vote in Kennedy - but to vote for Obama is beyond wacko.... Maybe you guys could get Stalin on the ballot next time?

Reagan was considered a good president by people who don't know better

I would venture to guess that there are many Americans who don't really know where Spain is, much less who leads it.
These people will be voting in November for the guy that they are comfortable having a beer with. . . ie someone that isn't smarter than them.
Good luck to us.

To comments #12, #13 and #42 by Karen S, Mark McSorley and Walter:
Saying that "Spain gives in to terrorists' demands", that "Spain's government has become Al Qaeda's best friend in Europe" is just ridiculous: Spanish army is no longer in Irak but is working in Afghanistan were, btw, some of his soldiers have died. But futhermore, saying that "the Spanish capitulated to the terrorists after the Madrid bombings" is not only false but an insult to the Spaniards. 3 months before the election day, polls showed that 90% (90!!) of the Spaniards were against the Irak invasion. The socialist victory was not the result of fear after a terrorist attack, was the answer to a conservative Goverment who decided to invade a foreing country against International Law and against its own people interest.
So, please, Karen, Mark and Walter, stop insulting us. It is really painful.

Old Man McCain was confusing Zapatero with Emiliano Zapata - the Mexican Revolutionary who died 90 years ago.

Senile dementia in the White House - here we come!

I think he was having a 'senor' moment...lol

OH, MY GOD! Is McCain for real?

So he won't meet with anyone that disagrees with him, he will meet with friends only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can he make friends out of enemies unless he meets with them and try to convert them into becoming friends?
What kind of logical man is this guy?
Hard headed , stubborn idiot like Bush.

McCain is just dumb as dirt. He is probably unaware of Zapatero, or anything about Spain for that matter. It's like Regan thinking that Argentina is in Africa, or Bush not being able to put two coherent sentences together. Just bottom of the class stuff.

So basically McCain is following the Rumsfeld move of insulting our allies who don't agree with our policy 100% of the time. Or he actually did not know who the president of Spain was. Either way, he is not fit to be the leader of the free world.

Where is the Straight Talk Express today? I expect politicians to answer the question from the reporter; since I cannot be there to ask questions myself. What is McCain hiding, that he cannot answer the question put by the reporter?

Can't we all just get along?
I spend my summers in cold/rainy England, and I must say the current administration in Washington DC is not respected by ANYONE here.
But they are scared that McCain will be elected or God forbid Obama is
assassinated because he is a black man.
The south is alive and well UNDER THE CARPET.
Please help us!

To # 19, Kevin-

Brilliant...you just came up with a great campaign slogan...too bad G Dubya didn't use it, "Ignorance We Can Believe In"

Senior moment, maybe? This is serious. I think he probably honestly didn't know, wasn't trying to be evasive about Spain. If he was trying to communicate to Spain that he was ambiguous about meeting with Zapatero, one would expect him to mention some concerns or something. To show that he knew his stuff (since he's always said that's a strength). In addition to the points already made here, I would remind folks that when Spain withdrew forces from Iraq, it sent MORE to Afghanistan. Also, Spain has long had a dedicated anti-terrorism office specifically to combat Islamic extremist terrorism. They have valuable intelligence expertise and experience, and a high-level U.S. govt delegation went to Spain right after 9/11 to learn about how they did it. It would be stupid not to care about our relations with Spain.

Spain....
Who the hell cares?
They can keep their crappy beer, crappy food, and their nasty neo communist PM or El presidenti or whatever they call them now...
Spain...ha...they haven't been an influence in the world in over 200 years!
So I say again, who the hell cares?
Spain? Spain? Spain?
Losers...
Obamanation--you're going to lose.
ha, ha ha

Gonna be an angry 49% yet again come November...

Can't wait - it's like picking on the Yankee's these days.

I believe 99% of americans have no idea who zapatero was, includng the liberals in here who are now trying to act intellectual. I follow world news, i lived in europe and i'm not brain dead so I know who zapatero and aznar are. As for this story, where's the controversy? he never said he didnt know who the spanish PM (yes its PM not president...there is no president in spain, only Prime Minister and King). He merely stated that he would only meet with leaders willing to work with the US. That can be Spain, or not..depends on what kind of political attitude they take with the US in the future. Another poor attempt at liberals trying to find dirt on McCain. Nice try you snobs. Anyone with half a brain can see that there is ZERO controversy here.

"Besides, if McCain goes completely senile in office- Sarah Palin can take the reins. She's qualified to run the country because her sons play hockey, so what's the big deal?"

heyduke:

It's people and voters like you who are dumbing down the political discourse in this nation, and contributing to its moral and economic decline... Take a moment and reflect on that, dumba$$.

McSame is a loser!

John McCain opposed waterboarding.

We seem to have fewer and fewer allies these days, and idiocy such as refusing to meet one of them causes me grave concern. Has anyone noticed that a poll shows that all of our top 22 allies feel the distance between us and them will grow under McCain? WTF, let's not worry about that, eh? Lets just ostracise them all, and when they all turn their backs on us, we can become our own little Cuba.
Bush doesn't like Spain, so John doesn't either. But hang on a moment, isn't John a maverick, a free thinker who will not follow in Georges footsteps. When he isn't lying through his teeth (probably false given his age), he behaves like a complete idiot, that shows us what we can expect if we are stupid enough to vote him in. I just Thank God, he has shown us what an arse he is before the election.

I want to laugh at this man's ignorance but the fact that people on this forum are still defending him is pretty darn frightening.

If McCain ruins future trips to Ibiza, I'm gonna be pissed.

Your article states that, "McCain...has made success in Iraq a central front in his campaign".
'Success in Iraq' - isn't that an Oxymoron?

This is aimed at the uninformed, ignorant folk that have posted that Zapetero's government is "friendly with Al Quieda" and "capitulated to the terrorists." Since you choose to live in your own fantasy world, I'll fill you in on the reality as one who lives in Spain. Zapetero was freely elected by the people (doesn't that sound a bit like a democracy?) a little over four years ago. But let's back up a bit. The previous president of the government (and, yes, they call him a president over here) Aznar was the buddy, buddy of Bush, and was the one who committed troops to Iraq. This was an EXTREMELY unpopular decision (95% of Spaniards opposed the war). Now, do you really think that if 95% of the US population was against the war, we would've gone...or Bush would've been reelected. So...now we fast forward a bit to the elections. Aznar decides not to run again and his political party (the Popular Party, it's called) chose Mariano Rajoy to lead the party. The country was already angry at the Popular Party for getting Spain involved in the war in Iraq (though not over Afghanistan where they still have troops there today), then came the March 11 terrorist attack on the Spanish railway system. The country wanted answers. Aznar, Rajoy, and the Popular Party gave them answers, but unfortunately they were all lies. For the following two days after the attacks, the Popular Party was insistent that ETA (a terrorist group from the Basque Country seeking independence from Spain completely unrelated to Al Quieda) was responsible for the bombings, when the rest of the world knew within hours that it had been Al Quieda. Therefore, on the eve before the election, the Spanish people held a huge protest demanding that the Popular Party tell them the truth. The Popular Party shamefully had to recant and let it be known that indeed it was Al Queida that had been responsible. So on election day, the people voted with their conscience. Zapetero, who opposed the war in Iraq and promised to withdraw troops or Rajoy and the Popular Party, who got Spain into an overwhelmingly unpopular war and lied to the people over a horrific tragedy. Hmmm...guess who won.

McCain, "leader" of the new Banana Republic, the USA, where taxpayers will cover for big industry corruption, or else be criminalized, talks about "liberty"?
And again, Zapatero is Prime Minister, not "president". With rampant ignorance and idiocy like this we're going straight to the bottom, we don't even need enemies.

While we have yet to hear from the man himself (who now hides from reporters apparently), his surrogate's official line that the Senator knew all along what he was talking about (aside from contradicting a previous commitment to meet with the Spanish PM), means he thought Spain was in Latin American (and this Hemisphere). I don't think anyone believes this, but that is what they are asking us to believe with their official statement (don't forget, the McCain campaign has stated that what they say is official and supersedes anything the candidate himself might say).

Reagan proved that deficits don't matter...
Bush proved that facts don't matter...
Now McCain proves that allies don't matter either.'

President, Prime Minister, a rose by any other name...Zapatero is the top guy of the Spanish Government. However, for the record in Spain he is referred to as "Presidente del Gobierno" not "El Primer Ministro" as they called Tony Blair or the current British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. There's even a "Vice-presidente del Gobierno" (just Google to find out who she is). So although Zapatero's role might be more similar to that of Brown's, if the Spaniards call Zapatero a president, it is quite correct for us to do the same.

It is astounding to me that after all that's been written here and all the news information we have available to us, there is still such ignorance out there.

So to those of you who actually believe that Spain and Zapatero's government are in bed with Al Qaeda, that Spain is a safe haven for terrorists, that there really were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the war was 100% justified, please, do yourselves, your country, the world a favor and stay home on election day. Show your patriotism by eating your freedom fries and letting those of us who take the time to inform ourselves over such matters cast our vote.

Republican economic policies have done more to harm this country in the last 8 years than Al-Queada ever will or even could.

"Republican economic policies have done more to harm this country in the last 8 years than Al-Queada ever will or even could."

Again, more complete and utter cluelessness from committed leftists. You DEMS helped out us into this position with CRA. FORCE banks to lend to less-than-worthy people. Brilliant. Really. Oh, but that's right, we have to be "inclusive".

But I'll go further. I don't believe there's really any point holding this country together any longer. I fully support seeing us partition this country now. Just like divorce, there are now irreconcilable differences that will only grow worse with the passage of time. You think a Obama victory will "smooth" things over? LOL.....