MoveOn.org ties McCain to lobbyists

Very accurate. Don't be fooled by the lies of McCain. A man who cheated on his wife and then married a sugar mommy is not be trusted with our country.

Being friend with lobbyists must be bad try having one as your son.
Robert Hunter Biden (born February 4, 1970), second son of Delaware senior U.S. Senator Joseph R. Biden, is a founding partner of the lobbying firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, LLP. He is also Vice Chairman of the Amtrak Board of Directors.

Everything in this ad is true,you can fact check it yourslf.

They missed mentioning the $100,000 plus that Obama took from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

I understand Joe Biden's son works for a Lobbyist and is quitting since his father is running for vice president. I don't see any media covering that story. If it is true, then that is the height of hypocrisy

Run in the toss up and battleground states!!!!!!!!

Moveon.org:

"..... The latest independent advocacy group ad in the presidential race "

say WHAT ????

Funny how everything McCain says is infact a lie, yet he still has this huge horde of blind followers behind him...Ah the blinding power of evangelicalism... what a bunch of of saps.

Skippy, you should try and stay up with the news, NY Times reported that Biden's son stopped working for lobbyists when his father was nominated or VP.

McCain isn't a friend of mine either. Economically, he will keep taxes low for the people who pay .01% of their incomes in FICA while I pay more in FICA than I do in Federal taxes. I don't completely understand his health care plan but it seems that he will give tax breaks on the one hand and tax medical benifits on the other.

Morally, he left his 1st wife with 3 children to raise in his 40s for a young rich girl in her 20s. Ketting 5 aside, as a evangelical Christian father of six, married for 25 years, that isn't a guy that I can respect very much. If you can't stay with your wife and raise your kids, it doesn't matter what else you are able to accomplish in life.

There are truths, half truths and untruths in most of the ads running for and by both candidates. If we can't trust them to rely on the truth in simple ads, how can we trust either of them to be truthful with the country once they obtain the brass ring? Do they have so little faith in Americans that they feel the need to, in some cases, outright lie? Do they think that we as Americans are not capable of making informed decisions when presented with the true facts? What ever happened to "the truth shall set you free"

"The latest independent advocacy group"
Since when is MoveOn.org an independent group? Aren't they out there with ANSWER? You know that other communist (quite literally) group. Not that both sides aren't doing their fair share of biased reporting just as #2 said above. Regardless this ad doesn't address the issues at hand, just like McCain had asked Obama to join him and discuss all along, but because Obama says they haven't discussed it and blames McCain for such, it must be true... I mean OBAMA said... he says no wrong, right? Wrong.

Washington is full of lobbyists and I am sure that they speak to and donate to as many Senators and Congressmen as they possibly can to gain support for their projects. I wonder how many Joe Biden has received support from in the 36 years he has been on Capital Hill. Keep digging MoveOn and you just might find some dirt on Joe and B.O.

Has Obama received any funds from the Venezuelan Goverment thru Richardson o maybe a Hollywood puppet like Glover. Obama=Chavez

Lobbyist? Hmmm. Let us see, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Which politicians received the most money from this company?

1 ) Chris Dodd
2) Hillary Clinton
3 Ohh! and yes the agent of change Barack Obama third on the list! John Mcain, he is no. 325th on the list. Wow, I was surprised to hear that the agent of change ( Obama ) is number three on the list. Oh by the way, the 2 former top honchos of this company is now working for his team. Now! that is a change we can really believe in huh! By the way how is it that the media is hssh, hssh about this?

I am proud to be part of MoveOn.org because, through the contributions of many middle class people like myself (and I'm not talking about those "middle class" people who make more than $100,000 per year!), they are able to put out ads like this, challenging big money interests of major corporations that dominate so much of our politics. Obama truly has the interests of the middle class in mind; despite the lies the McCain camp is trying to promote, Obama supports a tax hike only on the top 5% of income earners in this country, and I think those making in excess of $300,000 per year can afford a slight tax hike. And what were Palin's words about the war in Iraq, about it being some kind of sacred mission about which she seems to know very little, to the point of thinking that Iraq actually attacked us on 9/11. McCain and Palin are pleased to keep spending billions upon billions of dollars in Iraq in a neverending war on terror while McCain himself has repeatedly mentioned his lack of any real knowledge of economic issues. I know that in the past Republicans have been worried about Democratic candidates, but this time it is really the other way around. With McCain's lack of knowledge on economic issues and his close ties to the lobbyists mentioned here and others as well, and with Palin's seeming complete lack of knowledge of foreign affairs, this is really a scary Repulican ticket--and this at a time when we are in a real economic crisis at home and still a real mess on the international scene which can only be solved through the kind of tough diplomacy that Obama / Biden propose. Go to youtube and watch Obama discuss economics and international affairs with Fox's O'Reilly and tell me that this isn't the man you want for president.

Straight talk my butt!

Skippy, Robert Hunter Biden is not running for President, nor does he claim to be a "maverick."

Well Skip... 177 to 1 seems like a "fair" mix right? But recall that Joe Biden has said that while his son did in fact found that firm, he does not even see his son on any official business.

But the truth of the matter is that McCain is SO entrenched with lobbyists and 26 years in Washington is probably too long for any elected official. If they are worth their salt, they will be consulted long after they are removed from the trappings of congress.

And Thomas... you're entirely right. John McCain came home to find his beautiful former model wife disfigured and handicapped so he proceeded to cheat on her for six years and then found Cindy Hemsley, a very attractive 17 year-old kid that "he fell in love with" and married even though she was 18 years his junior! I wonder how the religious right feels about that?

My Friends,

John McCaine's plan to tax employee health care benefits so that companies can feel free to drop the coverage, thereby lowering costs is a great example of how well John McCaine treats his real friends and what we can expect from a McCaine presidency.

If McCain=Palin win after this shocking event in the economy, while taking no responsibility for their party's mishaps, America is doomed. So the people who think the same people who broke the bank will put the piggy back together, are STUPID, stupid is as stupid does .only a racist, confedrate, devil worshiper would ever vote republican, they had the power of all three brnaches of government, and congress and courts have been rubber stamps for the Bush's, So take responsibility for your ass-licking ways. If you believe the economy is fundamentally sound, you probably think Shaq has great free-throw shooting fundamentals, IDIOT Repunkblicans.

If McCain=Palin win after this shocking event in the economy, while taking no responsibility for their party's mishaps, America is doomed. So the people who think the same people who broke the bank will put the piggy back together, are STUPID, stupid is as stupid does .only a racist, confedrate, devil worshiper would ever vote republican, they had the power of all three brnaches of government, and congress and courts have been rubber stamps for the Bush's, So take responsibility for your ass-licking ways. If you believe the economy is fundamentally sound, you probably think Shaq has great free-throw shooting fundamentals, IDIOT Repunkblicans.

An excerpt from post #16:

"Obama truly has the interests of the middle class in mind; despite the lies the McCain camp is trying to promote, Obama supports a tax hike only on the top 5% of income earners in this country, and I think those making in excess of $300,000 per year can afford a slight tax hike."

Do you honestly believe that Obama can lower taxes for most Americans while only giving 5% of Americans a SLIGHT tax hike?

Even if Obama didn't continually lie and mislead in his advertisements, I would still be totally unable to believe this.

When did MoveOn.org become and independent advocacy group?!!

Soros (who runs and funds Move On) has been the strongest supporter of the Democratic Party and candidates in the last 15 years - dollar wise anyway.

Oh yeah, and the swiftboat vets for truth is also an "independent advocacy group" as well. Don't bitch Dems, what's good for the goose is good for the gander

Thank you MoveOn for getting back into the mix! Great ad, the 527s must go after McCain and Palin in the election. I'm going to send 100 bucks your way.

Politicians take money from lobbyists? Really?! Come on wake up. ALL politicians take money from lobbyists of any kind. To quote Senator Clay Davis from The Wire: "I'll take any mother f***er's money if hes giving it away."

The only straight talk coming out of McCain's mouth is when he admits he doesn't know how many houses he owns. The rest is outright lies and retractions, "I didn't say that." Video tapes don't lie, only people lie.The fact that Palin is Bush with lipstick should wake up some people before the elections. I swear, this country is on a downward spiral that's not going to stop anytime soon; only when we realize it's too late. By then, the Chinese will call in our debt and our dollar will be worth pennies. We'll be a nation of service jobs with foreign companies calling the shots.WAKE UP PEOPLE, Vote Replubican if you hate your country.

Hector, did it ever occur to you those on Wall Street, who gave millions to Obama are supporting him because he wants to institute more oversight and regulation so these financial crisis' won't ever happen again?

Having a lobbiest in the family is not bad, fool. Having them in your campaign when you speak against them is.

McCain/Palin = FASCIST Government (i.e. Nazi Germany)

You can already see it starting with their promise to overturn decades old programs and laws that work for many Americans, their conpsiracy theories about the media, and their bigotry towards other cultures and races.

Not to mention that the KKK and other right wing militias support the GOP and want them to win

Making new laws to suit your ideaology = FASCISM

The GOP ignores such sensible statements as this.

"Everything in this ad is true, you can fact check it yourslf."

The Constitution guarantees us a Republic. The talking heads in the corporate media love to prattle on about a Democracy and pretend that's what we have. The truth is we have neither. We live in a carefully concealed oligarchy.

McCain and Obama are both just sock puppets for the oligarchy. Their job is to perpetuate the illusion that We The People still have any say in how this country is run. So actually, being the most believable liar is actually an important part of the job description.

It's all just a sideshow, a distraction, bread and circus for the ignorant masses. Straight talk express? Yeah, right. Change we can believe in? Yeah, right. The only difference between McCain and Obama is their corporate sponsors.

No matter which of these clowns win, the oligarchs are going to screw us out of more of our rights, property, and money.

PLEASE CHECK OUT THE CAMPAIGN STAFF OF THE PALIN/McAIN SHAM. ALMOST 100% FORMER BUSH/ROVE CRONIES. THE REMAINDER ARE OR ARE STILL LOBBYISTS.MAVERICK MY A--.HOWEVER,NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY OF THE AVERAGE AMERICAN VOTER!

The religious right is happy as a pig in lipstick to have John McCain. Why? Because he has delivered Sarah Palin upon us. But enough about McCain's obnoxious attempt to fast forward to Armageddon...

MoveOn.org's linking on McCain to lobbyist qualifies the "iindependent advocacy group" (whatever!!) for the "No Sh!t, Sherlock" award. That's like linking Palin to a anti-rape victim task force. Duh!!

To those who are trying to tie lobbyists to Biden or Obama: you're only deluding yourselves. The fact is McCain surrounds himself with lobbyists-he's got a dozen of them as his closest campaign advisors!! And then he tries to make us believe he's going to reform Washington--well, he won't!!! And if you vote for him, you can kiss your future goodbye.

WOW! Every accusation in here from communism to the KKK. What a bunch of whack jobs. No wonder this country is going down the tubes.

Nobody,

You're the only Somebody on this forum.
Americans' native stupidity in not seeing what you're saying is truly breathtaking.
How many lessons does one need to see this simple truth?
And they keep waving those flags...

Hey McCain haters funny how you ignore the other comments or facts.
You ignore all the other facts. We are all liers, thiefs, adulteres. I admit my faults. and admit that Mccain is not the best but I would rather have him than that leach do nothing, no vote, talker. I sincerely think that most of if not all enjoy watching 9-11 videos. Cowards.

Lobbyist? Hmmm. Let us see, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Which politicians
received the most money from this company?

1 ) Chris Dodd
2) Hillary Clinton
3 Ohh! and yes the agent of change Barack Obama third on the list! John Mcain, he is no. 325th on the list. Wow, I was surprised to hear that the agent of change ( Obama ) is number three on the list. Oh by the way, the 2 former top honchos of this company is now working for his team. Now! that is a change we can really believe in huh! By the way how is it that the media is hssh, hssh about this

I can't help sitting back and laughing...it warm my heart watching the left panic as they realize the corinated their messiah too soon.

New York Times article today.

Obama was #2 in receiving contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Over $272,000

Chris Dodd of CT was #1.
And guess who controlled regulations: yes, Barney Frank

Also see Center for Responsive Politics:
Obama has received over 3 times more from lobbyists, $24 million than John McCain at $7 million.

Educate yourself. If you want to end the was and have no lobbyists vote for Ralph Nader.
Obama is deeper into special interests money by factor of 3

Why do all of the Obama-bashing posts read like they were written by teenagers?

How in the world can you be so arrogant as to call MoveOn.org an ostensibly independent group?
Look up "Ostensibly" in the dictionary for Pete's sake. Those guys are nothing more than a liberal hit squad.
"Independent"? OK, what was the last Republican or conservative they supported? Better yet, what was the first?
I suppose you consider yourselves to be "Independent " also.

It's people like your Foon Rhee who put journalism lower than congressmen in public trust. You don't care one whit about the truth.

remember, a vote for obama is a vote for osama. vote early, vote often...

All the lying ads aside.......The heart of the matter is the economy, stupid. I think Obama's tax plan makes the most sense for regular working people. We need a break. McCain favors the rich (like him) and his tax plan shows it. In the last eight years, I haven't seen a dime trickle down to me. I'm voting for my wallet!!

I love the Republicans who comment on this. Obama this and that. McCain is not running his campaign and you know it. He's become a sad puppet, who's choices are being dictated to him by Corperations he's sold his soul to. You know this in your heart and in your mind, you just dislike liberals, Obama, or whatever too much to admit it.

McCain is a sad reminder of what happens when you let your self interests go ahead of country. If he was REALLY in control would he have chosen someone to be VP he met ONCE? Would he have admitted he would vote against THE SAME BILL HE INTRODUCED months earlier? Come on now.

Conservatives love to bring up Biden's son, or a Mortage company. But mcCain's campaign is run from top to bottom by Lobbyists and Special Interests. Rick Davis, Charlie Black, John Green, Phil Gramm, Wayne Berman. Look these people up and see who has bought and paid McCain's campaign.

Its so incredible that Obama and Biden who undeniably are deep supporters of pork barrel politics (they even both voted for the bridge to nowhere) are still trying to paint a picture of McCain as beholden to their first love. Check out any legitimate website on pork barrel voting and you will find Obama near the top, (Hillary's number 1), Biden somewhere in the middle of the pork spenders and Mc
Cain at the bottom with a number of others. This is year in, year out. For Obama, 2008 is a lighter year due to his obvious campaign but he has always sought big dollars for his constituents. I dare anyone to challenge these facts.

MoveOn.org is not in any way, shape, or form independent. If you take the time to read their site, the content is obviously slated to be liberal.

This is no different than Fox news claiming to be Fair and Balanced.

Both sides play the "Let's claim to be independent when really not" game, as well as turn to special interest groups and lobbyist for funding and backing.

I would have thought this is something the public has been aware of for many elections now and has been accepted as an unfortunate side effect of political ethics gone awry and our societies moral compass going in circles.

32/Nobody is right on the mark though, it is foolish to believe in change or straight talk or a country where we hold more than a ghostly illusion of control.

Punk McCain if he deserves but his lobbyist connection(s) pale in comparison to Biden and his sons connection to MBNA ... one of the biggest credit card issuers around.

moveon.org is a surrogate for the Democratic Party. Well known fact. Also, moveon.org is significantly funded by George Soros of Black Wednesday fame that soaked the UK Treasury for 5+ Billion. Well known fact.

So, the question is, what does Soros get out of an Obama win? He is NOT a man to "not collect his due"...

Top Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008

1) Christopher Dodd (D-CT) $133,900
2) John Kerry (D-MA) $111,000
3) Barack Obama (D-IL) $105,849

Obama has set a record!! He was able to take more money, from Fannie & Freddie in the 190 days he was in congress than Dodd & Kerry have in 20 years!
What

Moveon.org

Do the research. They are not for the middle class. Google "Moveon.org George Soros"

Do the research. Come to your own conclusions - do it!

You want to see some real - objective - scrutiny of lobbyist ties of Biden and his son?
They can examine the Democratic VP nominee's relationship with credit card giant MBNA. Someone might even ask Biden why he backed legislation promoted by the credit card industry and opposed by watchdog groups while his son was a lobbyist for MBNA.

That question, it seems, at the very least, deserves as much attention as Palin's teenage daughter's pregnancy.

You want to see some real - objective - scrutiny of lobbyist ties of Biden and his son?
They can examine the Democratic VP nominee's relationship with credit card giant MBNA. Someone might even ask Biden why he backed legislation promoted by the credit card industry and opposed by watchdog groups while his son was a lobbyist for MBNA.

That question, it seems, at the very least, deserves as much attention as Palin's teenage daughter's pregnancy.

MoveOn.org: these are the same calling Petreus 'Betray Us'

this is the biggest hypocrisy and lies so far I have seen. MoveOn is a shelter of that hedgefund guy soros that broke the back of ordinary people with his currency trades. Look who should be investigated!

uhhh....who posted the "$100,000 that Obama took from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" comment? What the heck? It just goes to show that people will literally spew out anything to try to get their party/candidate in office. We complain about the politicians doing it and then we mimic those same actions. Pathetic.

McCain is not my first choice, but Obama playing class warfare with the 95/5 proposal is laughable. A rise in capital gains affects more than half the country, which is what he proposes. Along with increase federal spending in health care and education. This country needs lower taxes, lower spending, and less rules and regulations. Thomas jefferson, James Madison, and Thomas Paine must be rolling over in their graves. I know the historical failures of socialism and anyone who wants to get closer to that is no friend of mine. Obama is a leftist who appeals with populism.

For Gods sake people!! Think about what you do in the booth on Nov. 4th. We cannot afford 4 more years of George Bush policies. We will all be selling apples on the corner. This administration has single handedly taken not only this Nation but the Global economy down the tubes. Perpetuating the weath of the few at the loss of a middle class and the myth of the house of cards economy and an illegal war and the arrogance for oversight amounts to war crimes but it won't happen....think people...we absolutely must get this election right..we had 8 years of peace and prosperity under Clinton...lets hope we can have the same under Barry Obama and Joe Biden

BIden's son was given a cushy job right in a hedge fund from one of Biden's top contributers, so his son could get out of the lobbying racket. The guy who helped Joe out later regretted it and is suing Joe's son and brother for fraud.

While his son was a lobbyist working for MBNA, Joe fought for legislation favorable to MBNA despite it being opposed by watchdog groups who said it would be terrible for the industry.

That on top of Obama's payoff's from Freddie and Fannie and you can see where once again "MoveOn" misses the mark. I guess when they don't have the phony anti-war stuff to crow about, they'll invent some other partisan ruse.

Why would anyone trust an ad by Moveon.org? They are the group who was funnelling huge foreign contributions into advertisements for the 2004 election. Moveon is nothing more than a mouthpiece for Hungarian Socialist George Soros.

Then there is the fact that George Soros the multi-billionaire makes a big portion of his money speculating in currency markets and commodities. I wonder how much impact his speculation has on current gas prices?

Stop blindly accepting anything seen on TV and ask yourself WHY these ads are being run and who is providing the money.