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Obama unveils new women's group

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor September 15, 2008 07:50 PM

With Sarah Palin helping John McCain make inroads among female voters, Democrat Barack Obama today announced a new group of women who are business leaders, astronauts, athletes, and elected officials.

The Obama campaign said the women give advice, speak on his behalf, and "where appropriate" push back on false attacks.

“Change has never been easy, it’s always been hard-fought with bumps and bruises along the way, but these women leaders have had the tenacity to charge on. I am honored to have the support of such remarkable women who have broken down barriers and paved the way for change for my daughters and generations of women. In accepting their support I also accept the great responsibility to carry the torch by advancing women’s rights and bringing the change women need,” Obama said in a statement. “For every Sally Ride, Tory Burch, or Billie Jean King, there are hundreds of young women out there whose dreams seem a little more possible. As president, I will work to safeguard and support those dreams for my daughters and future generations of Americans through policies that further opportunity for all.”

Palin's surprise selection, and her speech at the Republican convention, energized the GOP's conservative base. She is also giving McCain an opening to reach out to swing voters who are concerned about the economy but are traditional on social issues.

In an AP-GfK Poll conducted Sept. 5-10, about two-thirds of working-class whites said Palin shared their values and positions on issues, and three-quarters said so about McCain. Only about half said that of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

Among white blue-collar women, 65 percent said Palin shared their values, and 71 said McCain did, compared to only 52 percent for Obama and 46 percent for Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden.

251 comments so far...
  1. Newsflash Team Obama:
    Putting Gov Palin on the national ticket has done more for giving young women and girls a role model and a dream to look up to than any number of partisan hacks you could trot out.

    The PUMAs met with you and asked you to appoint more women to your Cabinet if you win and you laughed in their faces.

    You ran an offensively misogynist campaign against Hillary.

    We haven't forgotten and we will make our feelings known on Nov 4th.

    Posted by Karen S. September 15, 08 03:10 PM
  1. Is it just me or is the Alaska governor more experienced than the top of the Democratic ticket? Why has the 'drive-by' media been making fun of the Governor of the largest state in the U.S.A.? Did these same media elites question Bill Clinton's experience as governor of Arkansas? (one of the smallest and least powerful governor positions in the 50 states). The Alaska executive position (the Governor) is one of the most powerful in America (as is the MA governor executive position). Did the media elite question GA governor and undisputed disaster of a President Jimmy Carter? Is Mr. Obama's only experience (in running something) his running of his campaign? I thought he had a campaign manager? Who is this Mr. Obama? I never heard of him 2 years ago. Can & should I trust this unknown with the responsibility of the US Presidency? Wake up! Stop smoking pot. Think of the future of this great nation. The only reason Mr. Obama is the choice is that he defeated my candidate Ms. Clinton (a far superior candidate & definitely more qualified). Admit it Liberals; if Mr. Obama was a white man named Bill Smith with the same lack of experience, and the same dearth of qualifications, he would not be the Democratic candidate. Why are we letting our white guilt and politically correct racial preference choose the next President? This is an abomination!

    Posted by Sara Temple September 15, 08 03:26 PM
  1. Great post by Karen!

    Posted by Mark Jackson September 15, 08 03:26 PM
  1. Well done, Senator Obama! Some of my best feminist friends are male feminists, and, with this move, I'm sure you'll reclaim that territory that the Republicans have been poaching upon, in the past few days. Additionally, I'm delighted with the REAL measures you and Senator Biden are taking for women's empowerment, across the board.

    Posted by Oopali Operajita September 15, 08 03:26 PM
  1. Try voting on issues not sex

    Posted by . September 15, 08 03:27 PM
  1. Karen,

    Voting from a place of spite is a great call!

    Let's see what the dreams of young women & girls look like when their "role model" Palin works w/ McCain to appoint Supreme Court Justices that will overturn Roe v. Wade.

    You go girl!

    Posted by babymammal September 15, 08 03:31 PM
  1. note the consistent lack of concrete examples of misogyny in obama's campaign. PUMAs are bad for america. They are alarmingly selfish.

    Palin is good for women? Really??!!

    Posted by ee35y September 15, 08 03:31 PM
  1. Obama trashes Hilliary and Bill Clinton and he expects to get the blue collar and women's vote? He is an elitist. The Democrats always nominate an elitist. Remember Dukakis, Gore and Kerry, they were as out of touch as Obama.

    Posted by Gerard F. September 15, 08 03:32 PM
  1. Karen-
    Are you crazy? Please lift that big chip off your shoulder and vote your best interest. Senator Obama DID NOT laugh in anyone's face, nor did he run a misogynist campaign. What bloggers choose to say- on either side- is not relevant (have you read any of the truly despicable racist comments on many blogs and comments? Are we to blame Hilary- or McCain for that matter- for these indefensible attacks? The obvious answer is no)

    Posted by Marnie September 15, 08 03:37 PM
  1. shut your stupid self up! if mccain get in rove vs wade will be over turned.You will have no healthcare,your pay will not go up.you woman are only hurting yourself by being mean and stupid.remember Obama and his wife will still have heath care and their kids will still have the best education.he is trying to help up you stupid fool

    Posted by karen September 15, 08 03:39 PM
  1. Karen, do not insult the thinking women of this world with your ignorance.

    Posted by KC September 15, 08 03:39 PM
  1. This is fantastic new!!! Go Obama!!!

    Posted by Lawrence September 15, 08 03:40 PM
  1. What is Obama worried about? Is he worried that women won't vote for him. I thought he had this wrapped up.

    Posted by dave September 15, 08 03:41 PM
  1. This does sound like a desperate move by the Obama camp....to Obama and his supporters...what voters like me are looking for is not stunts like this...give some straight forward answers....how are you going to bring about change in this country??....raising taxes for people making over $250,000...and your best explanation was that is was the right thing to do....if that be true...how much money have you given out of your pocket has contributions to various causes.....the last time I checked...it was less that 5%...if you think it is the right thing to do...then practice it before forcing it on someone....I don't make 250K/year....in fact I don't even make 70k per year but I don't agree with taxing higher salary people just because it is their civil duty to help out others....I don't want hand me downs...I want a solid logical plan in place to help me through these tough times...you claim you are going to raise taxes on oil companies....GREAT....while doing that are you going to set a limit on gas prices as well....cause they have to make money to stay in business and that means they will raise gas prices....which basically computes to more expenditure for me....so how is this supposed to help me out???


    Now to McCain....I don't believe that you are Bush part III or whatever the democrats are making you out to be....but I want to know how you are going to cut taxes to the extent you are promising and at the same time fund the different goverment funded programs....i know you are advocating different energy sources but I am interested in knowing which source are you going to be focusing on the most and why.....and also how do you intend to control banks and financial institutions that have cause the current economic crisis...

    Answer these questions...and you have earned my vote....I don't care for the rhetoric...I want solid answers.

    Posted by undecidedVote September 15, 08 03:41 PM
  1. Karen:

    Palin on the ticket is wrong for several reasons. I cannot see how any woman can support Palin if they were truly a Hillary supporter. As a woman, I voted for Hillary in the primary and will support Obama because his beliefs are similar to Hillary. McCain and Palin are way our in right wing field. If you are going to support McCain, you were never a true fan of Hillary in the first place.

    Posted by Janine D. September 15, 08 03:41 PM
  1. A role model for women is not one who takes our rights away--Hillary would be digusted by your post. Will you really side with someone who will set us back 50 years? Thats progress! Im sorry, but the women who are role models to me--stand up for our rights--Not the good old conservative boys way!

    Posted by tina September 15, 08 03:44 PM
  1. There is far too much at stake in this election for Americans to be casting their vote based on the Gender of the Vice President.

    Posted by Think September 15, 08 03:44 PM
  1. Karen S.

    If you are really a true PUMA as you profess no way would think that Sarah Palin speaks for Hillary Clinton supporters. As a former Hil supporter and now an Obama supporter I am appauled that you think that becuase Sarah Palin has a uterurs I should vote for her and encourage my daughters to do the same. I would make more sense if you decided that you did not want to vote for Barack Obama because of his race, not becaue of his politics. SHAME ON YOU!!

    Posted by Jane M September 15, 08 03:44 PM
  1. That's not true at all - if anything, Obama has conducted one of the most principled and considerate campaigns towards women in that I have ever witnessed in a Presidential election, including his deft understanding in handling a quite abrasive and rather unwomanly Hilary Clinton during the primary season. Besides, Hilary could very easily have turned on him in the DNC like Kennedy did on Carter in 1980, which she did not do.

    Perhaps the above poster has not considered all of the anti-women stances that Palin herself is condoning, not to mention the blatant misogyny of McCain in his treatment of women throughout his career. Dumping an ailing wife in the hospital for a young attractive heiress, making extremely hurtful jokes about Chelsea Clinton in the 90s, or dumping several other women in Republican party for a younger former beauty contestant who is aloof, staunchly prolife, anti environment and anti-education - if this is your idea of a good role model for young women and girls then I suppose McCain Palin deserves your vote. Not for my young daughter, let me tell you.

    Posted by EricR11 September 15, 08 03:45 PM
  1. Settle down, Karen... Let's stop the personal political attacks and get down to facts... Have you ever stopped to look at McCain's voting record on Woman's rights? It's abysmal. You can vote for whomever you wish put to portray Obama supporters as partisan hacks when questioning Governor Palin's record in public office is retrograde. Same with labeling the democratic Primaries as "offensively misogynist" You are merely creating dismissive comments that do not adress the issues. .

    Posted by Jeff September 15, 08 03:46 PM
  1. Ugh. It's transparent political ploys like this that are the hallmarks of a campaign that has spent far too much time, effort, and money on consulting and focus groups. As soon as I saw that Obama was absorbing some of Hillary's strategists when he clinched the nomination (the same strategists that were largely responsible for her short-sighted, constantly-shifting P.R. messages and tactics), I got the feeling that we'd be seeing stuff like this coming from his campaign. This "stovepiped" focus on pleasing specific voting demographics is a very unfortunate distraction from the broader issues that should be at the heart of this campaign -- issues that McCain has deftly led the media to avoid by naming a virtual unknown to his ticket and sitting back as the throngs of reporters go on a month-long wild goose chase to figure out who she is.

    Why isn't the Obama campaign announcing an "economy group" or a "healthcare group" or an "energy policy" group? This pointless announcement does little more than admit that they are back on their heels and allowing the McCain camp to control the discussion. Whatever happened to calling a spade a spade, and standing firmly on your assertions that American voting public is smart enough to tune out the juvenile, irrelevant squawk of tabloid talking points and blind identity politics? Get it together, people... you've got 6 weeks left.

    Posted by Bokonon September 15, 08 03:54 PM
  1. Wow Karen, way to play into the whole ordeal. McCain only chose Palin to secure votes, not to show her as a role model. He cares nothing about her or her policies.

    As for Obama "laughing in the faces of the PUMAs", I'd love for you to cite your proof for this. I think it would have been all over the media if it had happened.

    As far as Hillary goes, she ran an equally horrid campaign against Obama. I don't hear you complaining about that.

    That's the problem with a lot of women. As soon as Palin was put on the ticket, they automatically jumped over to her, regardless of how horrible a choice she really is. She has no foreign policy experience, she has very questionable ethics (since her ethics are currently under investigation for more than one thing), and her views on religion and sex ed are horribly skewed. This is not the middle ages. Try voting the issues, not the gender. Thank you.

    Posted by Xander September 15, 08 03:54 PM
  1. Why is the media so bias towards Obama?
    There is something very wrong in our society when the media selects a candidate as a favorite.
    Have we not learned from history where such blind worship leads?
    The dictators Hitler, Mussolini, Kim Jong Il all began as a cult of personality worship. The media for these dictators were slanted during their rise and then controlled after they assumed power. Obama is clearly following the same pattern.
    Obama and his wife have a horrendous history of evil and whenever facts of Obama’s infamous life is mentioned, the press ignores it. But for Hillary, McCain or Palin, if they so much as sneeze, they are mercilessly taken thought the ringer and insulted by the press relentlessly.
    Is this because we are afraid to criticize an African American or because some powers above are manipulating the media?
    - It is also interesting to note, that Obama critical posting are often banned or removed by the mediators of blogs or newspapers. A shocking example of this is The Swamp - Tribune's Washington Bureau who will almost NEVER print anything anti-Obama yet they are ubiquitous throughout the Internet. Doesn’t slanted reporting and opinion contradict the concept of news? Doesn’t China and Russia do this?
    Obama is not even elected yet, and Obama’s cult followers have already managed to implement restrictions on Freedom of Speech and undermine media neutrality. What will happen to us if Obama were elected? He will teach our youth to be thugs like himself. And if you don’t know why I call him a thug, find out how he got elected as senator and look at all the ill associations he has hobnobbed with throughout his life. Remember when he gave the finger to Hillary on national TV and now calling Palin a pig.
    We have clearly become a society whose depth of thinking is equivalent to that of Britney Spears and we will pay for this lazy intelligence and lack of critical thinking with our country. We are setting the stage for an American Mussolini.

    Posted by Julie Alton September 15, 08 03:56 PM
  1. Nice try, Karen S. If you think all women believe what you just posted, then you are fooling yourself. You are just like the rest of the McCain/Palin team......a liar!

    Posted by mb September 15, 08 03:58 PM
  1. Karen S. - Newsflash: Sara Palin is NOTHING to look up to; she's embarrassing. Did you miss her interview with Charles (not Chaaaarlie) Gibson?

    If you want to vote for someone simply because they're a woman than you're a fool. Also, Hillary did not want to be Obama's runningmate; she wants to run for herself in 2012

    Posted by Stacy September 15, 08 03:58 PM
  1. Thank you Barack for using intelligent women to push back those misconceptions that the Rep. Party is trying to once again bamboozle the American Citizens with again. The funny part about this whole women's right thing is I'm a women and I never felt as thought I was less ever.

    To Karen S. New's FLASH! Gov Palin has not said one thing to make a change for the better for me or my 2 daughters. Her speeches are right off of Karl Rove's playbook and you know it. Palin needs to tell me something that really means something. I don't know about you Karen but Pit Bulls and lipstick doesn't get me excited at all! Palin is full of $#!@ just like the Rep. party is. They threw out this women to take your minds off the issues. Health Insurance, JOB loss, Economy, Fuel Alternatives, The IRAQ War which should have never happened. Saddam didn't bring the towers down Osama Bin-Laden did... stay on point. I'm a working mom, a volunteer in the community, and a Christian women. I can't stand the lies is misconception of the Rep. Party and that is why I felt the need to check you on this. Maybe you can relate to Palin, maybe you tote guns and kill innocent animals and eat Moose on your table every night however I don't know one women that can relate to this chick. If Karl Rove wanted to pick someone for McCain as a running mate and we all know McCain didn't pick her, because he only met her once... Maybe she should have picked Michelle Obama... we all know she's intelligent, she graduated from Harvard Law School and she has executive experience to boot! :o) Enjoy your day and open your eyes. Oh yeah, McCain wanted his wife to enter a topless biker girl contest. Now that's someone you want your daughter to look up to isn't it!

    Posted by D J September 15, 08 04:00 PM
  1. I am surprised that so many Americans feel that Sara Palin is qualified JUST for the simple fact that she is a woman. What about her corruption investigation in Alaska....wonder when the trial is going to be? She hunts mutilates and murders for sport but thinks that it is IMMORAL to teach a teenager about safe sex. OBVIOULSY telling a teen just don't have sex DOESN't work. She is not for Women's rights. She is not environmentally concientious...in fact she DOUBTS that global warming can be attributed to humans. ARE YOU KIDDING?? People need to wake up and start getting educated. Sarah Palin is not qualified to be Governor and CERTAINLY not qualified to be VP.

    OBAMA 2008

    Posted by Nicole September 15, 08 04:01 PM
  1. The ignorance of the Karen S's of the world is frightening. If she thinks Gov. Palin is a role model and a dream to look up to she is sadly mistaken. Gov. Palin is the most anti-woman, anti-feminist candidate McCain could have picked. Her scorn for women's rights and her abuse of power for her personal gain is another rung in the ladder of Republican disdain for the minorities, oppressed and discriminated against people of the county.

    Posted by Alan Sirota September 15, 08 04:03 PM
  1. Newsflash Team McCain:

    Putting Gov Palin on the national ticket has done more to set women back to the 1950s than any other female in the Republican party.

    I am a woman from the 50s. I know what the 50s look and felt like. Sarah Palin looks, talks and acts the part of a 1950s woman.

    I haven't forgotten what the 50s were like for women ... especially women who had no choice ... and I will make my feelings known on Nov. 4.

    Posted by THM September 15, 08 04:03 PM
  1. Newsflash Trolls:
    John McCain will not make you rich if you continue to post laughable spam on his behalf.

    Posted by Anonymous September 15, 08 04:04 PM
  1. Newsflash::::
    I cannot understand how people that would have supported Hillary Clinton can turn their backs on the democratic party and support Mcain/Palin. It is ridiculous. So just because she is a woman, you are willing to turn back the clock on women's rights and allow them to attack a woman's right to choose? You're gonna let these maniacs give everyone in the U.S. the right to carry a gun? You're going to allow them to give extremely rich corporations even larger tax breaks than they have, while they outsource more jobs to India? And they plan to cut taxed on the wealthiest people in the U.S. while not adjusting taxes on the middle class? Palin even suggested war with Russia! Unfortunately I wouldn't put my money on us winning that war with the way Bush has our military stretched so thin around the world, fighting a non-sense war in Iraq when it has been proven they were not terrorists and were not harboring terrorist and had no WMD's.
    They're also fooling everyone with this drilling for oil nonsense. Any drilling starting now will not effect our supply or prices for 10 to 15 years seeing that even the exploration process has not started yet. You don't just drill a hole and oil shoots out.
    Think before you give up our future to the rule of people who don't even understand the notion of separation of church and state.

    Posted by John W. September 15, 08 04:04 PM
  1. Newsflash Karen S.

    Palin is no role model for young women & girls. Unless you want them to be lying, conniving, double talking religious freaks.

    I haven't forgotten McSame's platform against women's rights and I'll make my feelings known November 4th as well.

    Posted by Tracy C. September 15, 08 04:04 PM
  1. 1. Newsflash Karen S.

    If you are really prepared to vote for McCain/Palin where you were earlier prepared to vote for Hillary, you are either an idiot or you're lying: how can you compare the politics of McCain/Palin with that of Hillary? If you supported Hillary because she was the best, most experienced candidate and thought her most likely to accomplish what you think the next president could accomplish, then how on earth could you support the diametrically opposed ticket of McCain/Palin? I'm assuming you're lying...unless you really are an idiot.

    Posted by Drew K September 15, 08 04:04 PM
  1. America is coming to its end does not matter who you choose ! just like the Roman empire! vanished.

    Posted by John September 15, 08 04:04 PM
  1. Oh shut your trap and get over it !

    Take off your B%tch hat off and put on your thinking cap on and look at what McCain/Palin policies are....same as Bush.....wake up!!

    Posted by Ed September 15, 08 04:05 PM
  1. I am a licensed CPA in Arizona for 20 years. I am a female voter. I find Mr. Obama to be accurate in his financial data and analysis as well as his suggestions to fix the economic problems.

    Posted by Dena September 15, 08 04:05 PM
  1. Hey Oblahblah, too little too late!

    Posted by rosie perry September 15, 08 04:05 PM
  1. PUMAs grow up get over it and understand that Sarah Palin represents everything that Hillary Clinton does NOT. Anyone who would look at her views and ideology would understand that Palin is going to set women back 100 years. So understand that Barack is SURROUNDED by women and STRONG women and they will expect nothing but the best for women. So do us all a favor accept that Hillary lost and understand that McCain/Palin could possibly appoint the next TWO supreme court justices...

    Posted by PUMAs My A$$ September 15, 08 04:05 PM
  1. How absolutely wonderful. I was hoping that the women of this country would have a powerful voice in this election. Our hopes and dreams and aspirations for a future full of freedom must not be spirited back to the 19th Century....This is indeed a wonderful thing.....
    Most Sincerely
    A Thinking Woman

    Posted by Karen Cunningham September 15, 08 04:06 PM
  1. How can Palin be a role model for women? What women? Opportunistic, vindictive, lying women? Women who don't believe in Science? Women who think God is behind the war in Iraq? You can bet this God is a male God. Or is it that we're so hard up for attention any woman will satisfy our desire to be the center of attention? Just like a dog who whether he is beaten or treated with love can't tell the difference between the attention. Please.

    Posted by Heidi Morgan September 15, 08 04:06 PM
  1. Karen S .. Let it go .. really .. this is about picking a leader of our country .. You are making this about putting a woman .. it seems ANY woman in the white house ... Palin is about as smart as George W. It's people like you ...... Karen .. that are dividing the country .. Do you really think the policies of McCain/Palin are ANYTHING close to the policies of Hillary ... Grow a brain Karen ...

    Posted by Michael September 15, 08 04:06 PM
  1. Barack had a chance to have a woman as a running mate, but decided to turn to one of the "good old boys" instead. Anything he does now will just be pandering to the female vote.

    Posted by Doug H. September 15, 08 04:07 PM
  1. Karen you are hilarious and an obvious republican. If you gave two hoots about Hillary Clinton you wouldn't have just said what you did with a straight face. You're dream MUST be to have the government take possession of your womb, because that is what Sarah Palin stands for. You must dream of more wars started by Republicans who talk to God and think they are on Gods missions. You must dream of no polar bears because the polar ice caps have completely melted, because certainly a McCain Palin administration thinks this is all just a natural cycle and global warming is nothing to concern ourselves with. How sad that you are naive enough to have a role model in a person who thinks being next door to Russia gives her foreign policy experience. I could go on and on but at the end of day, my vote will hopefully cancel out yours and thats good enough for me.

    Posted by Steph September 15, 08 04:07 PM
  1. I can't get over it. Sarah Palin good for women? Which women?

    Look at the real accomplishments of the women whom they are dismissing as "partisan hacks". PUMAs are decidedly bad for women.

    Posted by jy September 15, 08 04:07 PM
  1. Does being a woman automatically make her a role model for women? How are you going to solve anything by voting for Palin on Nov. 4th? This should be about leadership and whats best for the country not some issues you have with female role models. Your insight is weak and not well thought out.

    Posted by Eric September 15, 08 04:07 PM
  1. How can Palin be a role model for women? What women? Opportunistic, vindictive, lying women? Women who don't believe in Science? Women who think God is behind the war in Iraq? You can bet this God is a male God. Or is it that we're so hard up for attention any woman will satisfy our desire to be the center of attention? Just like a dog who whether he is beaten or treated with love can't tell the difference between the attention. Please.

    Posted by Heidi Morgan September 15, 08 04:07 PM
  1. Karen S.,

    It seems anti-productive to vote for a candidate just because he picked a female VP. You shouldn't vote for someone just because they're male or female, black or white, or simply out of spite. Hilary supporters--her true supporters--rallied behind her leadership and her stance on the issues. They supported her not because she was a woman running for president but because she was a qualified, intelligent leader -- one who happened to be a woman.

    Gov. Palin's views on women's rights are almost completely at odds with Senator Clinton's. Palin looks to stall, even reverse, the progress Clinton has worked so hard to gain for women, for New York, and for America.

    A vindictive vote for McCain/Palin to spite Obama -- a champion for many of the same causes as Clinton -- is dangerous and petty. And it's something Hilary Clinton has repeatedly warned her supporters not to do.

    If you supported Hilary Clinton for president, and I mean agreed with her on the issues, believed in her strategies for improving our healthcare system, economy, and our role and reputation on the world stage, then it seems fully impossible that you could ever reasonably and in full conscience endorse someone like Sarah Palin. They're just too divided on the issues.

    There's nothing wrong with a woman becoming VP or president. What's wrong is casting your vote based on someone's sex instead of their qualifications and political agenda.

    Posted by Andrew E. September 15, 08 04:08 PM
  1. Obama already has Lindsay Lowdown, Pam Anderson, and Eve Longoria, three intellectual giants of the 21st century. What's next? Makes me wanna vote Democrat!

    Posted by Gerry September 15, 08 04:08 PM
  1. "Barack Obama today announced a new group of women who are business leaders, astronauts, athletes, and elected officials."

    But he conveniently ignored the most relevent woman in the election against the plea of millions of women.

    Remeber Hillary?

    Men always pretend that they know what women need. But all we want is a woman in the White House and we have to support Palin.

    Posted by Cathy September 15, 08 04:08 PM
  1. Desperate? I'd say so. Seems like his effort to destroy Palin hasn't worked and the American people can see right through Obama and his media's attempt to besmirch her. John McCain is doing better than ever, so now Barack has to resort to desperate measures to win women voters. How Pathetic. Why didn't he come out with this months ago? After all he has been on the trail and managing a campaign for 14 months.

    Posted by Rachel September 15, 08 04:08 PM
  1. Whatever you say there Rush

    Posted by Will September 15, 08 04:08 PM
  1. Attn Karen S. - go ahead and vote out of spite....we'll return the favor in 2012 if you think Hillary will become president then.

    Obama would never laugh in anyone's face if asked about appointing women to his cabinet. Why don't you prove it! You're a liar. Sounds like lying is the thing to do if you're a republican these days!

    Posted by TiredofPUMA!! September 15, 08 04:09 PM
  1. Karen, you would vote for McCain/Palin out of spite? That's not feminist, it's juvenile and dangerous.

    Posted by corinna September 15, 08 04:09 PM
  1. Type your comment here...this is a great move for Obama

    Posted by mike September 15, 08 04:09 PM
  1. Karen,

    You are so full of it. He never laughed in their faces. Sources I know inside the campaign are talking about Hillary as either Sec'y. of Health, Education and Welfare or Senate Majority Leader.

    Caribou Barbie is an insult to women. She is a leader back to the Dark Ages, and is as vile as they come. Charging women who have been raped for an evidence kit, pushing to ban all birth control...she is a Phyliss Schlafly for today. What a joke! Especially when she's convicted of abuse of power on October 10th! Yeah, that's what we want---our daughters to be gross liars and backstabbers. You are nuts.

    Posted by Margaret September 15, 08 04:10 PM
  1. Karen, you Pumas have only served to make yourselves look ignorant and dishonest.

    Now please, by all means, prove that by voting McCain/Palin and see what that accomplishes for you or your daughters. Win or lose, Palin will become invisible after the election. She is a prop...a trophy VP. If that's what you want your daughters to learn, good luck to them.

    You are lying to say Obama laughed in your face, about appointing women, and any thinking adult knows that. Not enough time in the day to go into your other insane beliefs. You're all crackers

    Posted by cynthia September 15, 08 04:10 PM
  1. Who are the PUMA's?

    Posted by JCL September 15, 08 04:10 PM
  1. Karen S and the PUMAs - you need to get over it for the sake of the future of this country. Think about who you'd rather have running the country based on their positions on the issues - not based on their sex. As a woman, I cringe at the thought that a bunch of angry and bitter Clinton supporters may subject our country to being run by candidates who might actually be worse than Bush and Cheney.

    Posted by Helen September 15, 08 04:10 PM
  1. "The PUMAs met with you and asked you to appoint more women to your Cabinet if you win and you laughed in their faces.
    "You ran an offensively misogynist campaign against Hillary."

    Neither of those things are even remotely true.

    If you are voting with McCain, you don't support women's issues and you probably never did. You blindly follow a cult of personality centered around a losing political candidate. McCain is a misogynist, and he WILL let Roe v. Wade be overturned if he is given the chance. He called his wife a cunt. How you could possibly support this man and call yourself a feminist is inconceivable.

    Posted by Nelson Trautman September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. To chose among the Republican party a woman so obviously inappropriate and unprepared to become President of the United States in the event McCain should die is as sexist as you can get. The educated women I know will not vote for a woman just because she is a woman. Imagine a man with the same background and experience; would you want that man to be in line to be the next president??? I don't think so .

    Gaia Lamb, M.A.

    Posted by Gaia Lamb September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. I really am having difficulty understanding recent efforts to pander to female voters. I appreciate and support the hope that we can break the gender barrier in the White House, but isn't it more important that we have a good candidate in there, regardless of gender? Is it really an achievement if the woman wins because of her gender, and not on her own merits? I always felt a bit put-off by Mrs. Clinton's assertion that a large part of her qualifications came from her time as the first lady. I feel like that message is more demeaning to women than it is inspirational.

    I really hope that John McCain's attempt at gender-based pandering doesn't really sway women to vote for him. Sarah Palin is in no way a reasonable alternative to Hillary Clinton. Saying people should support this woman because of her gender is completely ridiculous. Following that kind of logic, shouldn't I be supporting John McCain because he's a white male?

    Posted by Doyle September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. Oh yes, Palin the role model. lol. Mommy, when I grow up, can I fail out of 4 schools before I get it right too?

    Will creationism and abstinence-only (which worked so well for her family) be the only things taught in school? Will the rights of myself and my daughter to opt for abortion (specifically in instances of rape) get taken away?

    What does she know about foreign policy? Hell, what does she know about domestic policy? Read up.

    Posted by ms.sinn September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. If this country votes for the McCain and Palin ticket, that explains why the country is in such a deep economic crisis. Palin is a shallow, hollow script reader. She will make a good TV host, but not a VP or a potential president. Too many lies from her camp. She is no Hillary, girlfriends.

    Posted by Nat T. September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. Newflash PUMA:

    Sarah Palin pick has the honor of setting women back 50 years...Get real! she was chosen not because McCain thought she best qualified to be leader in command. But because she could help him advance to where he wants to be..Its about him not about her..the fact that she is only a heart beat away from the Oval Office...And will be in charge should the next bout of Melenoma take him out..Did not occur to him, we are the only ones that think he may not surrive..If you were thinking with your brain and not your vengeful feelings you know I'm right! There hould be no reason for you not to not vote for Obama if you were a true Hillary Clinton Supporter, were you supporting her because you just like her? or did her beliefs line up with your beliefs?..Just because Hillary did not win, why do you want the 36 million people that beleived in change and voted for Obama and Hillary suffer by doing your best to elect McCain?..Wow ! you are a selfish group of people..There are people out here in this world that really need what Senator Obama proposes Health Care, Better Education, More Jobs, Equal Pay, Maintain a Womans right to choose. Please, I beg you to get over it and be about the change..All that Senator Obama does not complete in his eight years, we will run to the Polls, in equally great numbers to get Hillary to finish the job....We the majority want change and you and your group want revenge for Hillary...You are not helping her with your actions..Please, think of others that are counting on your vote..This election is not about Senator Obama, but about the little people that have not had a voice, we have now have that voice in Senator Obama. Please, don't rob us of this chance.

    Posted by Joyce September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. Hmm - I wonder is the "PUMA" referrence is yet another example of a republican wolf in sheep's skin?

    Q: Which party put a woman on the national ticket first anyway?

    Posted by Richard Mitchell September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. Good idea. I think Obama should go out on the campaign trail with his supporters. Its good to have someone who believes in equal pay for equal work in the office.

    We definetly need to raise the minimum wage. the overwhelming majority of those who are suffering from that are women.

    McCain's views are archaic on these issues and a detriment to women.

    Posted by Fran C. September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. Wait, so now Gov. Palin is a role model for young women? A dream to look up to? How does a radical right-wing conservative all of a sudden become the dream of young women this country over? Just because some old white guy picked her out of a select hat of political advantageous women? Good women in our history are collectively rolling in their graves.

    Posted by Daniel Ueda September 15, 08 04:11 PM
  1. only race ,hate and bad mine that drive you to talk like that
    karen s.

    Posted by len pierro September 15, 08 04:12 PM
  1. Gov Palin a role model? You have got to be kidding me!!

    As a working mother, I am appalled to see her nominated in a clear attempt to use her gender as a vote getter, and then cry sexism at every turn. You want to step up to the big leagues, act like a grown up and take the good with the bad.

    My daughter said it best ... "Just because I have a ****** doesn't mean I'm automatically going to vote for one."

    Fortunately, the younger generation can tell when they're being played. My demographic appears to be a ship of fools.

    Posted by Robyn September 15, 08 04:12 PM
  1. To Karen S.,
    I think it is way more sexist on McCain's team to think that women across the country will vote red simply because he has a woman on the ticket. Furthermore, their campaign has played the gender card way more often than needed (reference lipstick on pig comment). They're using Palin's sex to advance their own campaign.
    It would have been sexist on Obama's behalf if he didn't run a tough campaign back in the primaries. His efforts show how much he viewed Clinton as a smart and capable woman. McCain's team is claiming people ought to go soft on Palin because they see her as a weak woman needing protection. That's what I call sexist.

    Posted by ct September 15, 08 04:13 PM
  1. KarenS, dont be a moron. I am a former Hill supporter too. Still, I find Palin much more offensive than anything Obama is accused of doing. Get over it and dont be moron.

    Posted by jblow September 15, 08 04:13 PM
  1. Obama did not run a misogynist campaign against Hillary. I'll certainly agree that Hillary faced sexism in the primary, but we should put the blame for that where it truly lies: with the mainstream media and the pundit class.

    Hillary lost the primary for one very clear reason - her support for the Iraq war.

    Posted by Curt v September 15, 08 04:13 PM
  1. Seriously, Karen?

    Did you not listen to Hil's speech at the DNC? Did you vote for her, or for the issues? Did you vote to save our children, or to leave them to rot in an education system that isn't working? Did you vote to bolster our economy, or leave it for dead under the old regime. I must say, you make me very, very, sad.

    McCain's pandering for women's votes by picking Palin is offensive. He insults my intellegence, because he assumes I will vote for him because he has picked someone of the same sex. But, what he neglects is that I want the rights over my own body, to stop global warming (that is man made), and protect my social security.

    McCain-Palin is the wrong choice for women, and for everyone.

    Posted by Connie R September 15, 08 04:13 PM
  1. Give me one example of a misogynistic campaign from the Obama team? He didn't pick her as a running mate because she would have wanted to be a co-president. The VP, by definition is a subordinate role, and all know Hillary wouldn't do well in that position (which is a credit to her). She lost. Get over it. She did.

    Posted by robc September 15, 08 04:13 PM
  1. News Flash Team Karen S. The only thing Palin shows other women is that
    it is alright to lie to the people of america as long as you are trying to win an election. Palin has told more lies in one week than there are people in Alaska.

    She sold a private jet on Ebay: LIE!!, she sold it privately at a cost of 600,000 to Alaska

    She said she fired a private chef : LIE!! Chef is still on staff but cooking for the Legislature

    She is qualified to run the United States : LIE!!!!!!

    Posted by Alex C. September 15, 08 04:13 PM
  1. It was all about Palin last week and now the dust has settled--it's over. The old republicans scrambled for any chance to save their dead party, latching onto another bloated country bumpkin. Sorry guys. Obama's here and you lose.

    Posted by Brent September 15, 08 04:14 PM
  1. The Republicans have done a great job by distracting voters from the real issues. Palin's right wing hawkishness will put us at odds internationally both from a global economics and foreign relations perspective. This election is not about putting a black man or woman at the top levels of government, it is where Americans want to take this country over the next several years.

    Posted by Chazlo September 15, 08 04:14 PM
  1. So are you saying any women as president/vise president will do? It sounds like you don't care that this women (Palin) believes that if you are raped and impregnated by your father you should have the child, nor does it matter that she knows nothing of foreign affairs, economics or for that matter the constitution. And to beat all she lies.

    I would love nothing more than to vote for a women for the highest office in our country, however, if I don't agree with her on the issues, the fact that she is female is superfluous

    Posted by Penny September 15, 08 04:14 PM
  1. McCain picked Palin because she is a woman. Not because she is most qualified for the job. He is already making descisions that are not in the best interest of the country.

    Posted by Barry M September 15, 08 04:14 PM
  1. I do not understand that just becouse Palun is a woman that she shoud be voted for. When she brags that her daughter chose to have her baby, she wants to take away the right of other girls the choce of having a baby or not. Not only that but if a child is molested by a family member she can't have an abortion. I can remember girls going to a durty back room and some durty person using a coat hanger to abort an unwanted baby, cool, lets go back to that so every body dies. I watched her enterview and a question was asked three times and she used the same memerized words to not answer the question. She is a woman that knows nothing about being vise president by her own words. She can do nothing for women with out knowlege to do so.

    Posted by Darlene September 15, 08 04:15 PM
  1. How offensive and silly. Hillary lost not because she was a woman, but because she is Hillary. So, you can continue in the grand American tradition of voting against your own self-interest, and elect Palin. She will turn over reproductive rights, and delliver our nation back to the Stone age culturally.

    Posted by Richard T September 15, 08 04:15 PM
  1. Newsflash GOP wingnuts,

    "Mooselini" is NOT a positive role model for women.

    Posted by Ann September 15, 08 04:16 PM
  1. As a woman who has spent her life working as a waitress to earn two masters degrees and a PhD, I am deeply offended that people think Gov Palin is anything close to being equivalent to Hillary Clinton. I have so much respect for Hillary, and have no respect whatsoever for the integrity or character of Sarah Palin.

    Come on, women! Obama did nothing misogynistic against Hillary. The MEDIA did! As a woman, I could only trust Obama to protect my rights and my interests - for myself and for my children.

    Women, we are smarter than this! Please let's inform ourselves with hard evidence and truth - and have the womens' intuition to protect our children. I value their right to become educated and to have science in their curriculum, and to have health care if they are sick.

    Women, we must challenge ourselves to do some soul searching and to think for ourselves!

    Posted by Alexandra S. September 15, 08 04:16 PM
  1. News Flash for you Karen S.

    Hillary has and will continue to have a thousand time more experience and intelligence than Sarah Palin.
    The only problem with Hillary was that she was a serial liar (dodging sniper fire and negotiating treaties with world leaders while being the first lady)
    and she was married to Bill.
    While you are correct that the "image" of Ms. Palin is quite a role model for young ladies/girls all over this great country, her policies and intelligence speaks volumes as to why she is another terrible decision made by the
    war hero - political zero McCain.
    By using the acronym PUMA, when it is not specifically mentioned in the article, you do a disservice to women in general and specifically speak to your own mysogyny.
    Are you really a woman?

    Perhaps you will be unpleasantly surprised by all the truly intelligent and forward thinking women of this country.

    Posted by Dave C September 15, 08 04:16 PM
  1. Vote for McCain and Palin and you'll put the womens movement back 100 years. They'll add two more judges to and already rightwing supreme court. You think it it's a slippery slope now.

    Can you say Roberto Gonzalez, Cheney, Wolfawitcz, Rove, Rumsfeld, Libby, Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Abermoth, Delay, Stevens, Cunningham, Foley, Craig... and the list goes on and on.

    Hillary said it herself, "Did you do this for me, or for the people the Dems are trying to help"

    Posted by J Buck September 15, 08 04:16 PM
  1. My God my fellow Democrats and Independents first Al Gore, then John Kerry oh so close and the Republicans screw us each time or so did the Supreme Court in Al Gore's case but how many times are we going to let this happen to us. Can't we unite and fight these bastards? Sarah Palin as President if McCain dies? Oh Please!! God help us. I beg of you think long and hard we need change this time. Please give Barack a chance, Please.

    Posted by R. McNeil September 15, 08 04:16 PM
  1. Karen S I don't really leave comments but I have too first ARE YOU A TRUE DEMOCRAT!!!
    Second Hillary started with the campaign bashing!!!
    Third the only reason Palin is there is because of hillary so you go right ahead buy into the repuke vision for america just don't think there will be change.

    Posted by Gordon W September 15, 08 04:16 PM
  1. "group of women who are business leaders, astronauts, athletes, and elected officials"
    You miss the point. Sarah Palin appeals to women because she is not an astronaut, business leader, etc. She is everywoman, that is the rest of us. We have had well educated and so-called experienced people in Wash and on Wall Street. You have not only made a mess of it. I am thinking de-regulation of the airlines? Does that sound familiar? It is too late to grab a team of women together to remedy the error of judgement the campaign made in ignoring Hillary and then wanting her to stump for you. Have you heard about "The New Agenda". We already have high powered women getting together. We don't need the Obama campaign to do this. This also looks a bit ridiculous. I think the democrats have just got to wade through this and see what they can do by discussing the issues. The only one in politics who saw this coming was Ron Paul. We missed it again like we missed Ross Perot.

    Posted by k pisaro September 15, 08 04:16 PM
  1. Karen S. -- I only hope my daughters don't take Palin as a role model. She is unblinkingly arrogant, lacks curiosity about the world, and reminds me much more of George Bush (another governor with "executive experience") than she does of Hillary Clinton. Palin and what's-his-name who is running for president will not be getting my vote in November. For my daughters' sake, I'm voting Obama '08 (hey, that's catchy...).

    Posted by ObamaMom September 15, 08 04:17 PM
  1. Go ahead and destroy 100 years of women's progress by voting for McCain. You are an ignorant and clueless voice for an ignorant and clueless leader. We don't want you.

    The democrats don't want anyone who would vote for president based on race, gender, or sexual orientation. Go back to the kitchen and enjoy your sexist leadership spearheaded by the ultimate opponent of women's right, Sarah Palin.

    Posted by Josh September 15, 08 04:17 PM
  1. Oh thank goodness. Any woman who thinks that Palin's nomination represents a significant step forward is out of her mind. It's a cynical attempt by the McCain campaign to exploit women who were disappointed by the outcome of Hillary's campaign.

    Make no mistake, Sarah Palin would revoke women's rights to choose what they do with their own bodies. She has done nothing positive for the women of Alaska, and has actively worked against women's interests. Giving her carte blanche to do the same on a national level would be the worst, dumbest thing women could possibly do right now.

    Posted by Ann September 15, 08 04:17 PM
  1. I'm glad to know that more women are willing to speak out for the Obama campaign. McCain has used Sarah Palin to avoid discussing the issues that are important not only to women but to all citizens. The race is between Obama and McCain. As far as I'm concerned, McCain has been using Sarah Palin and it is not only foolish ... it is insulting.

    Posted by jan September 15, 08 04:18 PM
  1. Electing someone based on their gender rather than their qualifications is ridiculous. The fact that the GOP puts a charming woman on the ticket with no national government experience shows just how desperate the GOP is. They can't win on merit or party platform alone. The USA can't take 4 more years of misinformed lobbiest based government.
    I will be voting for change, change to the Democratic ticket.

    Palin is just a Bush follower who, along with McCain, will drive our country into further economic disaster and continue to ruin the USA's reputation throughout the world.

    Posted by Jennifer F September 15, 08 04:18 PM
  1. Karen S: Take your angry female testosterone and shove it.

    Posted by Mook September 15, 08 04:18 PM
  1. NewsFlash Karen,

    You probably would not have a problem with your teenage daughter being pregnant and not being able to afford health care.

    It's a shame that you are so threatened by people who think differently then you.

    Americans are not stupid. We the people can clearly see how the Republicans are putting this unqualified vp choice Sarah Palin in our faces. I can't understand why any woman would be proud to have her propped up as the best our country can do.......


    Posted by Jeffery S. September 15, 08 04:18 PM
  1. I am a woman, I think it would be wonderful to have a woman on the National ticket---BUT----THIS womsn? There are so many more accomplished women than this cynical, self-boastful Sarah. Let her return to Alaska, read some newspapers, listen to the international and national news, and then maybe she might learn what is REALLY going on in the world. Gosh, I was President of the PTA---so were thousands of others--- is that the criteria for mayor, govenor, president? Oh yes, many many of us are ALSO good mothersb

    Posted by deborah Silver September 15, 08 04:18 PM
  1. NewsFlash Karen,

    You probably would not have a problem with your teenage daughter being pregnant and not being able to afford health care.

    It's a shame that you are so threatened by people who think differently then you.

    Americans are not stupid. We the people can clearly see how the Republicans are putting this unqualified vp choice Sarah Palin in our faces. I can't understand why any woman would be proud to have her propped up as the best our country can do.......


    Posted by Jeffery S. September 15, 08 04:19 PM
  1. Thats a ridiculous lie. He did no such thing. Besides that who would decide the members of the presidential cabinate based on gender? Thats sexism pure and simple not to mention dangerously divisive. One should choose his subordinates based on policy and talent alone not by gender race or anything else! You madame are the sexist not Senator Obama. As for Palin, She is a dangerously incompetent and prejudised woman. She' a woman who attends a chruch that proclaims those who voted for Kerry are going to hell. She has reversed herslef on every major policy she once supported. Not to mention she has a nasty history of abusing her power in order to show both favoritism and to settle grudges. We have had enough abuse of power in the last eight years. She is not a good role model for woman. She is certanally not who I want my daughters to look up too.

    Posted by Andrea September 15, 08 04:19 PM
  1. All this is well and good, Karen, but the stakes are higher than these things you point out - true or not. The issue is not whether she's a woman, but that if John McCain is elected, Sarah Palin will be a heartbeat from the presidency - something I don't think she has the intellectual and personal skills to take on. Her interviews with Charlie Gibson clearly showed this as she dodged questions and repeated answers she was clearly coached to give. Yes, we want a woman in the White House some day and Hillary would have been great or any number of other women I can think of GOP & DEM...eg Elisabeth Dole, Kay Baily Hutchenson...why didn't McCain go with this kind of seasoned female political candidate.

    Barack Obama has shown himself to be articulate, fully versed in the issues and prepared with solutions - I have seen no anti-female side to him from his choice of campaign advisors such as Madeline Albright on foreign affairs to Caroline Kennedy on his veep search committee.

    John McCain has chosen Sarah Palin as his Veep - what does that say about him. It was a rash last minute, poorly betted decision, likely pushed on him by people who didn't want him to pick Joe Libermann because he was too far left and McCain didn't have the guts to stick up for what he really wanted.

    Posted by Linda in MA September 15, 08 04:19 PM
  1. More lies and vitriol from Karen S. Where on earth did you see a misogynistic campaign? A misogynistic press, maybe, but that had nothing to do with the campaign. Where's the evidence that he laughed in their faces? This is just more smear-mongering. Count me one Hillary voter who will be voting for Obama. I bet HIllary will be doing the same.

    Posted by Ann K. September 15, 08 04:19 PM
  1. Karen S. How can you vote for Governor Palin when she is totally against everything Hillary Clinton stands for? You shouldn't be voting based on gender. You should be voting on the issues. I'm disappointed Hillary lost. I voted for her in the primaries. But Obama and Hillary pretty much have the same views on all the issues that are important to Democrats. You'd be voting against everything Hillary wanted to do if she became President. You shouldn't vote against your party just to spite another candidate. What kind of role model is Palin? How can she teach abstinence if she can't even keep her daughter from getting pregnant? Get over Hillary losing. This is much bigger than her. Do you realize we have three Supreme Court justices older than McCain? If the Republicans win, the conservatives will take over the Supreme Court. That could set women's rights back for generations to come.

    Posted by G Yang September 15, 08 04:20 PM
  1. Karen you and your organization are committed to nothing but anger.

    You were never committed to Hillary Clinton's campaign or her ideals. It is the height of disrespect to Senator Clinton to actively seek to elect Republican candidates that are diametrically opposed to her on the issues.

    First we focus on the election and furthering policies that are good for all women, then we focus on cabinet appointments.

    Senator Clinton and other women of stature are much more appropriate advisors to be called upon to recommend cabinet appointments.

    It is you and your group that are misogynist. You are a roadblock to women and only serve to reinforce the status quo.

    Posted by Miki D. September 15, 08 04:20 PM
  1. Newsflash Karen:

    Hillary lost because she mismanaged her campaign. From reading her internal campaign memos, I wouldn't trust her to manage a 7-Eleven, let alone the country.

    Gov. Palin is a role model only if you think lying about your record and pretending to know what you're talking about is a good thing.

    Posted by Sean September 15, 08 04:22 PM
  1. On August 29 John McCain announced his VP running mate candidate Sarah Palin. As a woman who voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries, I found the commentary aired and printed about McCain’s choice disturbing, since most of the commentary centered primarily on Sarah Palin’s gender, and implied that by choosing her McCain had been able to secure much of the Hillary Clinton bloc.

    As a woman who voted for Hillary in the primaries, I am naturally offended and find this type of oversimplification an affront to thoughtful voters who chose Hillary based on her views and perspective, rather than on her gender. To suggest that women in this country primarily if not exclusively judge a candidate’s suitability for office based on gender is offensive.

    To suggest that Hillary voters will be more likely to vote for McCain, now that he has a woman as a VP running mate is a gross oversimplification. Hillary Clinton’s perspective, vision, and political insight have little in common with Sarah Palin, the discrepancies become even more glaring when the partisanal political views and opinions of an outstanding Democratic candidate are compared with a go-along freshman chosen to reinforce the stale Republican ticket demonstrating desperation moves as regards “sprucing up.”

    Posted by Sepi September 15, 08 04:22 PM
  1. You're stupiid Karen. I'm sorry to say that but if you care about your life and your future you won't make decision based on the fact that the other ticket carries women. She has nothing in common with Hillary, and this is the proof you don't understand anything about election. No wonder Bush was elected the second time. Good luck with your unreasonable thoughts.....

    Posted by Conrad September 15, 08 04:23 PM
  1. Karen S. Go make me a samich. Or let me spell it correctly. Make me a sandwich and have the rest of my dinner ready.

    Posted by Karen go make Me a Samich. September 15, 08 04:23 PM
  1. I wonder if Palin left the AOG church because they like most evangelicals churches don't allow women pastors, or for women to teach men in bible study,etc? I can not imagine a woman that cares about her rights voting for this woman.
    bj

    Posted by BJ Kuhn September 15, 08 04:23 PM
  1. Well, "Wonder Boy" has now gotten a group of women business leaders, astronauts, and athletes together to bash Gov. Palin. I wonder how these wonderfully accomplished DemFems felt when Barak passed "all" of them over for Vice President for good "OLD" (Say It Ain't So) Joe Biden?

    Posted by Kenneth W. Redman September 15, 08 04:24 PM
  1. Right on Karen!
    I always thought that the dems were representing me as a working mother trying to suceed in both roles until I heard the attacks on Sarah Palin daring to run for VP as a working mother. Now I know just how much they really represent me and care about my problems. They've lost my vote.

    Posted by Linda M. September 15, 08 04:24 PM
  1. Wow - if Sarah Palin is your notion of a role model for women...she's got a long way to go first. She may have had a future, but she was not ready for this jump.

    Posted by diesel September 15, 08 04:24 PM
  1. Karen, I'm not sure what you have against Sally Ride, Tory Burch, or Billie Jean King, but to call them hacks is rude. I don't care whether you are a man or a woman; I do not like to hear women called hacks.

    Your sources are misguided Karen. Perhaps you should research the facts on your own instead of relying on your Pumas.

    The campaign against Hillary was run the same way a campaign against the men was run. Why should it be different. I'm for equality in all aspects and don't want someone going easy on me because I'm a woman! Give me a break!

    Yes, we will remember how you instilled hope in our daughters and granddaughters with your inclusive message and we will vote for you, Mr. Obama!

    Posted by Backwoods Auntie in Okeechobee September 15, 08 04:24 PM
  1. Let's hope that as a role model she doesn't continue her distorted view of proximity equals knowledge. By her logic, the Mayor of Key West is an expert on Castro! I'll take Sally Ride any day over her. Partisan hack or not.

    Posted by Jackie H. September 15, 08 04:24 PM
  1. Can he ever complete a sentence without using the word "change". Although, the the young and ignorant will fall for it every time.

    The woman in this group will push back any false attacks? Where were they when the liberal media was attacking Sarah Palin? I'm sick of the double standard.

    Posted by David September 15, 08 04:25 PM
  1. Newsflash PUMA:

    Obama and Biden stand for the policies that will further women's issues as Hillary stood for them. That you think all women are interchangeable is ridiculous and flies in the face of all that Hillary stood for. No one is paying attention anymore. No one cares who you will vote for. You are all a bunch of bitter hags!

    Posted by Proud Female Obama Supporter September 15, 08 04:25 PM
  1. It's quite ironic Karen that you would take Barack Obama to task on the issue of trotting out people simply to garner votes when most people would agree that John McCain (who I assume you will be voting for) chose Sarah Palin for that very reason.

    If you want a real role model for females to look up to, look no further than the likes of Hillary Clinton, a woman who fought to get as far as she did, unlike Sarah Palin who is taking a short cut to the Presidency by getting selected as VP last minute.

    As far as the "offensively misogynist campaign" you claim Obama ran against her, I think that even Clinton herself would disagree with you. I also believe that any campaign that’s been run this year can be viewed as sex, race or age discriminatory if you twist it enough.

    Posted by Catherine September 15, 08 04:25 PM
  1. Karen S. what role model would that be.

    Palin wants to turn over Roe v Wade and believes that we are in Iraq cause that is gods will.

    Sounds to me like Palin wants to take this country a few steps back instead of a few steps forward.

    Pretty sad when ladies are so nieve to the fact that she would like to take your choice away as a woman to abortion especially when it is a rape or incest case. Bravo good going.

    Posted by Nathan September 15, 08 04:27 PM
  1. Dear Karen S.
    Gun toten' Rednecky Palin is NO ROLE MODEL for my daughters. She is right-wing fundamentalist big-oil tyrannical scary creationist anti-choice closed-minded uneducated untraveled mouthpiece in pantyhose and got where she is with stabs in the back. Please point out ONE moment where Obama is mysogynistic. He dedicates his life to his wife and daughter, dedicated his books to the strong women who inspired him, and treats women exactly how they should be treated: as equals and NOT as sissies. Please take your "we haven't forgotten" and put it where it belongs: on McCain's smear campaign.

    Posted by Erika GK September 15, 08 04:28 PM
  1. "We haven't forgotten and we will make our feelings known on Nov 4th."

    If you think Obama was misogynist, wait 'til the backward, backwoods policy of the Republican party you plan on voting for hits you and everyone else in your position. You may make your feelings known, but you do it at the expense of common sense. G'head and toss your core values out the window on account of feeling slighted for some foolishness that may or may not exist. Do womankind some justice and rise above emotion.

    - T

    Posted by TU September 15, 08 04:28 PM
  1. "Putting Gov Palin on the national ticket has done more for giving young women and girls a role model and a dream to look up to than any number of partisan hacks you could trot out."

    Women with self respect will run from Palin. Women who think men should legislate their lives will flock to her.

    "We will make our feelings known on Nov 4th."

    We Who????

    Posted by RABO September 15, 08 04:28 PM
  1. newsflash, newsflash
    tory burch and billy jean king would have been much better choices than palin.
    miss burch has been quite an inspiration to my daughters and their friends, and i think that barack obama is incredibly smart and respectful towards women as evidenced by his strong companion michelle.
    tory burch- would you please run for office in new york.
    we need you now more than ever.
    -jamie hetfield

    Posted by Jamie Hetfield September 15, 08 04:28 PM
  1. You had your chance to choose Hillary. Too bad. Too little, too late.

    Posted by J N September 15, 08 04:29 PM
  1. Hmmm.... karen S
    Palin will do more harm than good for young women, and the not so young alike. We don't know everything about her; and given the time constraints, we won't know enough before Nov 4th. But anything could happen with her, and not much would be good. She will have to study hard, very hard, to catch up on the key issues of this campaign, economics and foreign affairs. As is, she is just not ready for even a mid level national appointment. Worse yet, she could stumble and trip into a career ending fiasco, thereby crystalizing the glass ceiling for another 25 years. I fear for her candidacy. The way I see it, lose-lose. Most frightening, she's becoming a lightning rod for dividing this country, more than any of the 3 candidates combined. I'm born and raised Alaskan, and I'm running scared. I love Alaska and I love the great US, but voters can be so easily hoodwinked. And this is a classic example.

    Now, back to Barack. He's been living under the microscope for 18 months, and the worst they can toss at him is Lipstick.

    Posted by colleen m September 15, 08 04:29 PM
  1. Newsflash Back To Team McCain/Palin (can't have one without the other now.)

    You are certainly not speaking for me - as a female small business owner - or millions of other women - who are smart enough to see through McCain's obvious political ploy in putting Palin on the ticket. I'd like to have your proof that Obama laughed in the face of any intelligent woman who approached him with a smart idea. That's been more McCain's approach until he realized he needed a female to help him win the presidency. In fact, McCain's and Palin's lack of support for equal pay for women, family leave act and other important family issues speaks loud and clear. And I, along with millions of other intelligent women, will be standing in front and behind you at the polls on Nov. 4th.

    Posted by Chris Moy September 15, 08 04:29 PM
  1. Dear Karen S.
    Gun toten' Rednecky Palin is NO ROLE MODEL for my daughters. She is right-wing fundamentalist big-oil tyrannical scary creationist anti-choice closed-minded uneducated untraveled mouthpiece in pantyhose and got where she is with stabs in the back. Please point out ONE moment where Obama is mysogynistic. He dedicates his life to his wife and daughter, dedicated his books to the strong women who inspired him, and treats women exactly how they should be treated: as equals and NOT as sissies. Please take your "we haven't forgotten" and put it where it belongs: on McCain's smear campaign.

    Posted by Erika GK September 15, 08 04:31 PM
  1. To the last commentator, I beg to differ. Palin's evangelical, far right-leaning religious tendencies will do little to advance the hopes and dreams of women and girls in this country.

    If McCain is elected and dies in office, and Palin is left to govern, her lack of experience will show through and the mistakes she is bound to make will do anything BUT advance the hopes and dreams of women and girls in this country.

    It is much more likely that she will set back the strides made by female pioneers.

    Posted by Laura M. September 15, 08 04:31 PM
  1. That's right, Team Obama!

    I want MY daughters to be just like Sarah Palin, and anyone who disagrees with her is a "hack." A partisan one at that, unlike Karen S and myself. They should just start their hike on that bridge to nowhere. Who cares if they're business leaders, astronauts, athletes, and elected officials? Thanks but no thanks.

    Posted by Patricia M September 15, 08 04:31 PM
  1. Karen S.,

    If you are voting for McCain only because he chose a woman (for politcal reasons), then YOU ARE A CLASSIC ROCK HEAD! McCain could care less about your health or job, or right to choose or your financial situation. If you are smart woman, then don't allow your emotions to vote against your family's future and for someone who could care less about you personally.

    Posted by JC September 15, 08 04:31 PM
  1. Karen you and your organization are committed to nothing but anger.

    You were never committed to Hillary Clinton's campaign or her ideals. It is the height of disrespect to Senator Clinton to actively seek to elect Republican candidates that are diametrically opposed to her on the issues.

    First we focus on the election and furthering policies that are good for all women, then we focus on cabinet appointments.

    Senator Clinton and other women of stature are much more appropriate advisors to be called upon to recommend cabinet appointments.

    It is you and your group that are misogynist. You are a roadblock to women and only serve to reinforce the status quo.

    Posted by Miki D. September 15, 08 04:32 PM
  1. Obama never ran an offensively misogynist campaign against Hillary...that was hype that Hillary used to get elected. There is no proof that the Obama laughed at the PUMAs for being asked to appoint more woman to his staff...that just doesn't match his personality...

    McCain "using" a woman to get the presidency is a lot more proof of a misogynistic campaign. McCain never fought for woman's rights before this, he nor the Republicans have ever championed nor cared about woman's issues until he/they saw an opening with the gullible Hillary crowd.
    Educate yourself on the facts before letting yourselves be used by a party who has ignored you all these years/
    So, educate yourselves before wasting your vote in November...

    Stop

    There i

    Posted by Nathan September 15, 08 04:35 PM
  1. If you can't bet 'em, join 'em.

    Posted by Chris H. September 15, 08 04:35 PM
  1. Please, you must have forgotten Bill's oops I mean Hillary's campaign. Gov Palin didn't do squat. It was Hillary who opened the doors for for women and young girls. Hillary's impact was great enough to open the doors for Palin. Even so Palin wasn't chosen because of her merit, but by the old saying Sex Sells. Her beliefs aren't on par with McCain. She is the image of Washington that McCain is against. She is only in because that is the easiest way for McCain to win. Go ahead, make your feelings known. When you finally wake up, there will be an old rich white dude taking the oath of office and not miss eye candy.

    BTW the #1 web search for Palin is not about her and her stances but for eye candy.

    Posted by Dave C. September 15, 08 04:35 PM
  1. What happened to my fellow feminists from the 1960's?

    Obama stands for everything we believed in and the values I hoped would be a driving force in this country.

    I have health care and a job, but we all need to take some time to think of others.

    I am reminded everyday we are a Capitolist country. But, are we a Democracy?

    Posted by Sandy Kuzma September 15, 08 04:36 PM
  1. Is it just me or is the Alaska governor more experienced that the top of the Democratic ticket? Why has the drive-by media been making fun of the Governor of the largest state in the U.S.A.? Did these same media elites question Bill Clinton's experience as governor of Arkansas (one of the smallest and least powerful governor positions in the 50 states. Alaska executive position (the Governor) is one of the most powerful in America (as is the MA governor executive powers). Did the media elite question GA governor and undisputed disaster of a President Jimmy Carter? Is Mr. Obama's only experience running something his running of his campaign? I thought he had a campaign manager? Who is this Mr. Obama? I never heard of him 2 years ago. Can & should I trust this unknown with the responsibility of the US Presidency? Think of the future of this great nation. The only reason Mr. Obama is the choice is that he beat Ms. Clinton (a far superior candidate & definitely more qualified.) Admit it Liberals; if Mr. Obama was a white man named Senator Bill Smith with the same lack of experience and lack of qualifications, he would not be the Democratic candidate for President.

    Posted by Sara Temple September 15, 08 04:36 PM
  1. "The PUMAs met with you and asked you to appoint more women to your Cabinet if you win and you laughed in their faces."

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    oh the PUMAs, the almighty powerful PUMAs, a group of feminists who will vote against a woman's right to choose and equal pay for equal work. You're really advancing the cause.

    Posted by Mike D September 15, 08 04:37 PM
  1. Newsflash Karen S.:

    Gov. Palin is a good public speaker, but most definitely not my role model. She does not support any environmental, economic or health policies that will benefit me as a woman or as an inhabitant of this planet. Where are your arguments on the ISSUES? I cannot understand a person who would vote against the best interests of herself and her country because of a grudge. Any misogyny during the campaign against Senator Clinton came from members of the media not from the Obama campaign. I beg you to give it some thought prior to the election - there is way too much at stake.

    Posted by Michelle R. September 15, 08 04:38 PM
  1. PUMAs - Your bravado and claims of sexism and misogyny laid at the feet of Obama would be funny if it weren't so heartbreaking. You can claim anything you want to about Hillary being cheated, but Obama looked at the full field and made his play. He was better organized than Clinton, he took advantage of what he could at every turn, while Hillary's campaign team missed the boat. He did this all without publicly disparaging Hillary, even going so far as to praise her.

    Further, your inability to see that Obama has overcome just as much—if not more—than Hillary in his bid for the Democratic nomination proves the point that you are unable to see past your own noses and are not concerned with the process, you are concerned with an outcome that serves your purposes at the expense of all those who voted for Obama.

    What you fail to see is that Hillary was not or is not a perfect candidate, much like Obama is not the perfect candidate. But alas, he is the candidate. So tell me: What would you have Hillary do? Shirk the Democrats so that Dems can suffer the same fate as the Repubs in 1992 w/ Perot? Hillary would never do that and you could stand to learn from her example.

    You should be celebrating that a black man who's had more ridiculous smears thrown his way has the nomination of the Democratic party. You should see this as progress. Instead you curse him. Shame on you all.


    Posted by Zeke Zekelbaum September 15, 08 04:38 PM
  1. MR . OBAMA: WOULD YOU PLEASE STOP TRYING TO DISCREDIT THE
    VP CANDIDATE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY - YOU ARE NOT BEING
    TRUTHFUL IN ALL YOUR AD'S - WHY DON'T YOU TRY TO BE HONEST WITH
    THE VOTERS............................................YOU SHOULD HAVE PICKED HILLARY...........NOW YOU KNOW...................WHY DIDN'T YOU, BARACK.

    Posted by BUDDY RUTHERFORD September 15, 08 04:38 PM
  1. Don't you know McCain only put Palin on the ticket to court the female vote? That's pretty insulting. It's also the worst possible form of affirmative action. It's a step backwards for equality. It suggests a woman will only reach the highest office if the position is handed to her by a man. That's not any country I want to live in. I don't quite understand how Palin is a 'dream' and a 'role model'. What kind of role model is that? Someone with no qualifications paraded up there saying ' Hey look girls, if your running mate is more interested in career than integrity, you can make it too!'

    Posted by Lisa September 15, 08 04:41 PM
  1. Hey, Karen S.!

    Gov. Palin, "a role model and dream to look up to"? Great! What about when those same young women and girls want more than an empty role model and dream? What about when those women and girls want the right to decide for themselves whether to carry a pregnancy to term?

    Obama, despite what you deem his "misogynist campaign," will not appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe Vs. Wade. Governor Palin and McCain most certainly will. So you're willing to sacrifice a woman's right to privacy and choice simply because your preferred candidate lost? What adjective best describes such cutting off your nose to spite your face, other than "bitter"?

    Obama believes in the separation of Church and State. Gov. Palin is a Pentacostal Christian who believes we are living in the End Times and that the War in Iraq is a mission from God. Do your beliefs and values align with these? Or are they much closer to Senator Clinton's -- which are almost synonymous with those of Senator Obama?

    McCain's decision to pick Palin was clearly the most cynical ploy yet in this election year. He chose her solely to win the loyalty of the likes easily-duped women like you. Do you feel proud that you are none but a pawn in a vicious, Karl Rovian right-wing Chess game?

    Obama is not anti-WOMAN, for Chris'sakes!!! He has two daughters and an incredibly strong, independent wife whom he obviously loves and honors very much. Had you looked into his positions on women's issues -- or cared to research any number of women's organizations, from NARAL to NOW, all of which endorse HIM -- you'd know this already. But clearly you're not interested in what's best for women. You're only interested in seeing meaningless titular platitudes manifested in spectacle form on the national stage.

    Because Hillary lost, you want all womanhood to suffer. What explains this logic?
    Don't worry. I know you won't respond. Somehow, the PUMA crowd always seems to evade debates whenever logic enters into them.

    Posted by Brian Davis September 15, 08 04:41 PM
  1. Have you asked yourself who VP Palin would appoint as Treasury Secretary if she finds herself in the presidency? If she would run up an even bigger debt?
    Are you willing to have your daughters and granddaughters denied the right of choice - McCain and Palin have been unequivocal about appointing more Justices like Scalia and Thomas and Alito to the Supreme Court?
    When did Obama laugh in anyone's face? Are lies going to win this election for the Republicans? Who is Hillary urging you to vote for?
    Hillary was attacked on the issues by the campaign, any sexism was NOT coming from the campaign - cite one example from the Obam campaign. He won the nomination fairly.Palin was appointed for her extreme right wing views . Thanks but no thanks.

    Posted by HM September 15, 08 04:42 PM
  1. Karen, what a dumb reaction. You do not appoint someone because that person is a woman...you appoint them because they are the best person for the job. I am sure Barack will pick wisely. McCain picked Palin because she was a woman...and she is as dumb as they come. The only thing she knows is how to speak out of both sides of her mouth.

    Posted by Mary September 15, 08 04:42 PM
  1. Karen S. If you think taking reproductive freedom away from women in any scenario - including rape - is something our young women should look up to, it is a sad day for the future of women.

    Palin is nothing but arm candy for John McCain and if you knew anything about his voting record on women's issues you would understand that he isn't interested in supporting women...

    Posted by dmartini September 15, 08 04:44 PM
  1. Here's a novel Washington approach to a problem, create a committee...I hope this isn't how the "Change" candidate will help women...

    Posted by ChasforPalin September 15, 08 04:45 PM
  1. Re: Newflash Team Obama:
    Karen are you really, seriously going to vote for a woman that will undo Roe vs. Wade? By all means please THINK about those young women and girls that you mentioned before you lash out irrationally at Obama! As Gloria Steinum (former Hillary Clinton supporter) wisely said: "Voting for McCain-Palin ticket to get back at Obama is liking cutting off your feet cause someone stole your shoes."

    I too, long for a woman President, but she has to be qualified to lead otherwise, let's face it, we won't get another chance for fifty years or more. I don't want my president speaking in tongues, killing wolves from helicopters, and rewriting the Constitution based on the bible, and I think it's safe to say that NONE of these actions would be found on a list of What Would Hillary Do. This woman is NOTHING like Hillary Clinton and I cannot imagine anyone who claims to be a Hillary supporter would insist on insulting her in this manner.

    I, a Hillary supporter, will cast my vote for Obama; the best candidate for decent, hardworking Americans -regardless of gender!

    Posted by Debbi Atkinson, True Hillary Supporter September 15, 08 04:46 PM
  1. Please take a good look at the hard right policies and beliefs of Sarah Palin before lifting her on your shoulders as the new feminine hero. She is pro-assault weapon, anti-choice, and blatantly fabricates Obama's policies. Don't be so vindictive that you transform her into the thinking role model for young women. She is right of Reagan and that simply isn't good. John McCain did not pick Saray Palin; his handlers did for the woman vote; not because she is the best person for the VP, or Prez.

    Posted by Neil M. September 15, 08 04:47 PM
  1. You go Karen S - nice job - you show them!!! You show those democrats! Let's turn our back on a party that actually fought for women's issues.....to hell with them, let's vote republican! You go Karen - vote for a party that talks about finding solutions for Parkinson's and other diseases - but blocks the most promising areas for actually finding cures! Yeah - you show 'em....vote republican so women and men can be equal in the unemployment line when ALL the good jobs go overseas! And when you daughter is raped, who needs the democrats - we'll just go to Canada when they overturn Roe V. Wade....Sure Karen - you have it all down - you show em...

    An 'offensively misogynist campaign' - really - - are you that weak ....you honestly can't handle the heat...Hilary did very well - just not well enough....but wait a minute - hold on - even thoguh hilary and barak actaully believe virtually ALL of the same things - screw him ....there's a woman on that ticket....

    You use big words - but obviously decide to turn the intelligence off when it comes to the issues.......You are just the target they were aiming for when they took a no-name Gov - put her on the ticket.......

    Unbelievable - - you make your feelings known - and then watch the damage you will have done - all because you are blind to dealing with issues - vs. what kind of clothes are put on in the morning

    Posted by Red September 15, 08 04:48 PM
  1. Karen S. It is women like you who are responsible for women being in the position that we are in today. You are so gullible. You sacrifice quality, wisdom, common sense and the future of your childern to vote for a woman on the ticket simply because she is a female.

    How foolish, Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton. Hillary fought a good race but she lost. Instead of demonstrating that a woman can fight a battle and take a defeat like men have done for decades, you choose to cast a tantrum vote by voting for Palin.

    You deserve everything you get. McCain is counting on you and your single mindedness to hand him the election, then snicker as you complain about losing your house while he has so many houses that he can't even keep track of them.

    Look at the big picture. I liked Hillary as well, but I'll be damned if I vote for Palin. She is not qualified to lead this country.

    Open your eyes, women like you ARE the glass ceiling! You are easy to fool, easier led and you lack common sense. The rest of us have to fight against stereotypical females like you who can't be trusted to make logical, well thought out decisions. McCain is selling you a bridge sister. Not just any bridge, but a bridge to nowhere...

    John McCain was able to sway you without even selecting a QUALIFIED woman and you don't even find that insulting. How Sad.

    Posted by Janet L. September 15, 08 04:49 PM
  1. To Karen S.
    Sara Palin is against everything Hillary Clinton stands for. Just because she is a woman does not mean she believes in women's rights. How can you on one hand be a Hillary supporter (which I was and am) and then vote for someone who is opposed to all her views? Isn’t policy more important than getting a woman in the white house

    Posted by Jessica LP September 15, 08 04:50 PM
  1. Karen, you hardly speak for all Clinton supporters. If you want someone in the White House who will roll back 50 years of progress on issues important to women -- contraception, choice, child care, leave, and medical research -- go ahead and vote for McCain/Palin. Thankfully, most of us who worked for, supported, and voted for HRC are able to see the larger issues and care more about this country's welfare than scoring a point against Obama.

    Posted by KLN September 15, 08 04:50 PM
  1. I have great respect for Hillary Clinton after having sustained herself admirably through an adversity few of us could even imagine, but also one that any woman worth her salt was certainly not surprised by. And never does she hide behind nor arm herself with women's advocacy groups. Or use "sisterhood" as a weapon. Or make her mark on the world from the springboard of her gender and nothing more. Even now, she exudes grace and strength in support of her cause: our country. Isn't it just like a cat to seek revenge... and announce it. Such a terrible female stereotype - I know. I revile those who give life to such stereotypes - you hold the rest of us back by choosing revenge over intelligence and grace. I will not share your venom. No way, no how, no McCain. And PUMAs? Thanks...but no thanks.

    Posted by Marie M. September 15, 08 04:52 PM
  1. The republican party seems to be placing much importance on 30 years worth of experience of John McCain. What is more important is what decisions the candidate makes in those 30 years. Clearly supporting a war in a country (Iraq) that was not at war with us, (WMD not found & Sept 11 attack was not caused by the Irag government) was the wrong decision. Obama's vote against war was the right decision. Choosing a Vic Pres candidiate with no national experience and very little state government leads one to wonder wether that was a good decision when McCain's age, Palin becomes the President should anything happen to him. It is very scary. Are there any republicans can refute? Bob V.

    Posted by Bob Van Sickle September 15, 08 04:52 PM
  1. Billie Jean King? What are you kidding me? Lame

    Posted by Mike September 15, 08 04:54 PM
  1. Another Right Winged Republican spewing off like they would even consider voting Democratic - please. Keep your winey comments to yourself.

    Posted by Dem-all-the-way September 15, 08 04:54 PM
  1. I don't understand women like Karen S. How can they support Hillary and then vote for McCain, whose policies and views are the opposite of Hillary's? These women reflect badly onthe rest of us!

    Posted by Nancy September 15, 08 04:55 PM
  1. Newsflash Karen S.

    Overheard at a McCain Town Hall during the primary:

    "What if the bitch wins?"

    McCain did nothing but laugh.

    Where was the misogyny in the Obama campaign?

    Posted by Mel September 15, 08 04:55 PM
  1. To Karen S.

    Palin a great role model for young girls?

    Palin is a woman who ignores and scoffs at Science, when we are trying to encourage young women to pursue careers in science.

    Palin is a woman who has minimal education but achieved high status by her looks. Yet we try to encourage young women to rely on brains more than their figures.

    Palin is a woman that could care less about endangered species and preserving wild spaces when we are trying to teach our children to be good stewards of our planet.

    Palin is a woman that squanders our future by pushing for expanded use of fossil fuels (oil) when a vast majority of experts say the world's oil is running out (we've reached "peak oil") instead of pursuing alternatives NOW! How does this teach our children to plan for the future?

    Sarah Palin has failed at motherhood, resulting in a pregnant teen daughter (who posted her underage drinking on her MySpace page) and a soon to be neglected special needs infant, who all experts say requires a great deal of attention from BOTH parents. In the meantime I’m trying to teach my daughters that sexual activity and motherhood are SERIOUS life changing endeavors.

    Palin is a woman with a trail of sordid scandals (possible adultery, abuse of power, misuse of state property, who’s Trig’s Mommy, etc) Yet, I try to teach my daughters morality, to be modest and to behave with decorum.

    I guess to each their own. I wan’t my daughters to learn science, get PhD’s, rely on their brains and achievements to be successful, protect our planet, be innovative, frugal, be modest, moral, wait to have sex and take their parenting duties seriously. How sad you want so much less for yours.

    Posted by Pitbull_Lipbalm September 15, 08 04:56 PM
  1. Donna Brazile (Democratic Party know-it-all) made it clear in May that the NEW Democratic Party didn't need white women, over 55 voters. I have been looking for a party that cares about my vote ever since.

    Then I waited for Barack to try to win me back. He never showed up. This committee is way too little, way too late.

    I applaud John McCain for giving us a party and his ears.

    Posted by Amy Jean September 15, 08 04:57 PM
  1. Palin is a frighteningly backwards-minded wackjob, and the notion that she is a worthy substitute for Hillary is actually pretty misogynistic in and of itself. They are polar opposites politically, and by exploiting Palin's gender to woo Hillary supporters, McCain is basically saying "one woman is as good as another." It's great that there is a woman on a national ticket, but does it not matter who she is or what she believes in? She'll be sitting down with hostile heads of state, negotiating the safety of the free world, you really think that's a good idea for moose-blasting "down home" Sarah Palin? As long as she's got a vagina, right? Because we'll all be so inspired! Never mind the abstinence, the hunting, the Pentecostalism, the cronyism, the lying, the divisive, distracting campaigning, the oppressive Evangelical attitude..

    Posted by spongekill September 15, 08 04:58 PM
  1. Karen S. must have lost her mind. Is she going to vote for a woman who cut 20 percent of the financial help to teen-moms in trouble and, when mayor, even pushed the decision that victims of rape were to pay the 312 to 1050 USDollars which is what a test to verify the crime actually costs? Nowhere else in Alaska - the state with the highest percentage of domestic violence - do the financial burden of a such a test rest on the victim.
    I am a Danish woman, and a grandmother, and the more I learn about Palin the more I ask myself where women like you have left their brains. Are you going to vote for ONE woman or for ALL women??? Furthermore, this Palin´s ignorance when it comes to Foreign Politics is INCREDIBLE. In my country we LAUGHED, when mrs. Palin exposed herself. Come to your senses, Karen S. - do you honestly believe that a person who claims to KNOW Russia because Russia can be SEEN from some small Alaskan island - that such a person SERVES the US? The comic figure she made was unintended, of course - poor Gibson, I say. If she is your role-model, dear Karen, then Hillary Clinton certainly is not, never has and never will be. Mrs. Clinton is a wonderful, extraordinary and super-intelligent person, her campain was fantastic - but so was the Obama Campaign.
    I am almost relieved that Hillary once and for all gets rid of you and your ilk.
    And when/if you help elect McCain and Palin - dear Karen - I shall sit here in safe Europe and laugh. You re-elected Bush. Now you are repeating your idiocy.
    Good Luck - you will need it, for you shall be isolated, on your own. You need the World, and sadly, do not realise it. Meanwhile the World gets in the habit of NOT needing you, looking for more intelligent company.

    Posted by Helle September 15, 08 04:58 PM
  1. It is laughable. See, when the main stream media doesn't want to report OB's tring to delay our troops from coming home which is inconsistent with his campaign message, you know the media is just try to sell this candidate to you.
    His behavior is consistent with inconsistency which most people should see through him anyway. There is just nothing further from the truth itself.

    Posted by tickel September 15, 08 04:59 PM
  1. Newsflash Karen S-

    REAL, intelligent women know just how backwards Gov Palin truly is. Which in turn, shows how out of touch McCain and his cronies are.

    You are NO true supporter of Hillary Clinton if you would even entertain the thought of voting for the GOP ticket, especially in light of the choice of Mrs Palin.

    To vote for someone simply because they have your genitals shows an utter lack of education and makes you no better than the men in this country who vote based on their genitals.

    Congrats for taking a few steps back. Well done.

    Posted by krystyn September 15, 08 04:59 PM
  1. Sarah Palin represents one of greatest threats to hard fought women's rights this country has ever seen. These "Pumas" you refer too posses more courage and intelligence in their little toe than Palin and McCaine possess together.

    Posted by Deidra Gwyther September 15, 08 04:59 PM
  1. Gov. Palin is NOT the role model that everyone needs. I want a woman in office who supports my ideals and choices, not someone based on my same gender. That won't cut it in my eyes. If you are Republican/conservative, then that's one thing. But don't dare replace Hillary with Palin as the next best choice, that's just scary.

    Posted by R. A. September 15, 08 05:02 PM
  1. Please PUMAnincompoop... DO NOT link ALL women into your little club... I am a 52 year old woman who's husband was out of work for most of 2008... who's working 10 hour days to pay off our son and daughter's college loans... who believes in the right to choose and knows better than to vote for a ticket that promises us more of the same!

    You better believe I will be there on November 4th - along with my 5 sisters...
    my daughter... my future daughter in-law... my mother-in-law... my sister-in-laws...
    need I go on?
    Did I mention my brother was an avid Hillary fan who will be voting for Obama along with my husband... my son... my brother-in-laws... oops... there I go again...
    I'm Martha McDonald and I approve this message!

    Posted by Martha McDonald September 15, 08 05:03 PM
  1. Dream to look up to?

    Ethics investigations? Making rape victims pay for their own testing? Firing librarians because they didn't step in line with her beliefs? Believing that creationism should be taught alongside evolution in public schools?

    There is not a lot known about this woman, and what is coming out is scary. Her appointment on this ticket is a studied, calculated way to get women and Conservatives to vote McCain.

    McCain has not done anything positive for women's rights in some time. Look at his voting record. If you think just because he chose her that it's going to mean something positive for you as a woman, think again. Just because our parts are the same does not make our interests the same.

    Posted by Amanda Macpherson September 15, 08 05:04 PM
  1. As a Clinton supporter, putting Gov Palin on the national ticket officially shows that the Republican Party is out of ideas. Voters will see past the smiles and the rimless glasses, but will see the endless lies, exaggerations and out-dated policies. McCain is the true misogynist if he believes picking a woman who is unqualified and a liar for his running mate will actually get him Hilary supporters in the White House. Come on, a BA in Journalism from the University of Idaho. She is not in the same league as Hilary.

    Posted by Tami F. September 15, 08 05:05 PM
  1. Excellent post Karen S. !

    By the way, where is N.O.W. when all the Pig jokes and direct hits on Sarah's work/ family balance took place?

    Why aren't the alleged feminists going beserk over the remarks by members of Obama's own staff over Sarah Palin needing to stay home and take care of her family?

    What a bunch of hypocrites!! They are showing their true colors. They are for women's rights but only if that women is a registered Democrat. What a bunch of hoooey!

    Posted by Cindy from Cambridge September 15, 08 05:08 PM
  1. Newsflash Karen S.: I'm not going to do the work for you, but why don't you get truly aquainted with the likes of one Sarah Palin -- Sarah Palin the anti-feminist. I suggest everyone do research on McCain and Palin. After you're done, you wouldn't give either of them a single vote even if they were the only candidates to vote for.

    You suggest this election has become a grudge match for you because the nomination didn't go to Hillary. Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton, as a matter of fact, she's the polar opposite. A vote for a ticket containing Palin is a vote against women. So what feelings will you make known on November 4? You let everyone know you'll cut off your nose to spite your face, and in doing so, take the rest of us with you. No thank you to that.

    Truly put country first. Vote Obama.

    Posted by Republican Christians for Obama! September 15, 08 05:10 PM
  1. karen s you know no wonder america is in this state because of people like you who do not get the sense on how bush destroyed the economy and why we the world hate you so much. you have an oppotunity to have an economy that works and someone who can restore your country in a position were you are liked and all you can think about is hillary clinton. she lost fair and square but because your uneducated brains do not understand that all i can do from this side after reading your comment is how sorry i feel for you. maybe if you elect obama you might get an education because under his plan he is willing to fund your deplorable education system which now ranks no19 in the world and you might no the difference between winning in votes and winning in an opinion contex.

    Posted by fay robertson September 15, 08 05:14 PM
  1. Karen S.,

    Soooo, you're going to vote for the man who told the joke "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father"? Wow. What about the one with woman and the gorilla? Or the time John McCain called his wife a c&*$ in public? Or when he left his first wife after she'd been disfigured and gained wait from a terrible auto accident? Or all those times he's voted against equal pay for women?

    And you're going to vote for this guy just because he decided to pander to you?

    Posted by mark vf September 15, 08 05:14 PM
  1. Hi Karen S:

    Women who succeed in business or in any role are not hacks. Some of us did not support Hillary because she followed the role model of hanging on to her husband's tailcoats and we did not want to see HILL and BILL in the Whitehouse again.

    We would have had more respect for her if she was not so condescending to the role. Go ahead and tell your daughter when her boyfriend cheats on her repeatedly to stick with him honey. Hillary is an amazing woman, if she had dumped Bill she may be VP today. Think about that.

    Women can vote with their brains. Hopefully we will use them on Nov 4th.

    Posted by Dawn JC September 15, 08 05:15 PM
  1. New group of women? I guess this is an attempt to redefine who women are, what they think, an of course who they support. Naaa...he is not sexist. Baawaahahhaha.

    Posted by dan September 15, 08 05:19 PM
  1. John McCain, and his subordinates are Reverse Sex Discriminators and the media has enabled them. The McCain campaign has wickedly woven the idea in the media and even some in the public minds that it is okay that a candidate for the VP of the United States of America should be allowed to simply glide into that seat with no qualifications and no questions. No questions from the media. No questions from the public. Heck no questions from even FOX news! This is simply unacceptable, unintelligent and last but certainly not least, un-American! How dare we allow the McCain campaign and Tucker Bounds tell us that we have no right to question a candidates capacity to be ready on day one to handle the issues we Americans face daily. This is bigger then a gender issue. I do not care that the candidate has breasts – I care that the candidate has a brain! and can be a commander in chief on a moments notice. So far all we know about Sarah Palin is she is a Republican, flip flops on earmarks, flip flopped on the bridge, uses her public office to get back a people for personal reasons, is a ex-beauty queen, has 5 children, 1 pregnant teen daughter, a husband who does not work and she like moose meat. I’m a citizen and do I have to remind the media that through-out the Democratic primaries it was constantly said “Interview with the candidates.” Now we are at the most critical moments in history and the interview is apparently over? I think not. The candidates chose their VP picks and now they (VPs) must be interviewed also! We need to understand the true reasoning behind choices other than a strategic move to garner a particular race, gender or creed! This is not some game for the politicians, pundits and news media to have fun with. THIS IS OUR LIVES PEOPLE. I would like to know if Barack Obama had picked Kaine for VP if he would have been scrutinized so irresponsibly by the media? No because he is a man he would have been taken to the courts and fouled before the Democratic convention even convened! The media and pundits are showing a ‘hands off’ policy for this particular female politician. I think it is condescending, patronizing and insulting for the McCain campaign to hide behind the eye-glass rims of Sarah Palin! They are using her gender like a whipping board and every time someone (even female) questions her resume they are accused of being a sexist! How stupid! and how stupid of the press to fall for such a blatant ploy! Sarah Palin has had a free ride for three weeks now…I say ENOUGH! We only have 7 weeks left to an election that will change this world forever. John McCain is 72 years old – if he wins the seat as President we are putting our lives in the hands of a man who believes that economy is ‘fundamentally sound’ after the worse recorded day in Wall Street history! A woman who believes that rape victims must be violated not once but twice! That rape victims should bear the mental, physical and financial cost of being assaulted and raped. We are facing economic woes that are reminding financial experts on Wall Street of the stock market crash of the 20s and still we bicker about insignificant gossip! ENOUGH! Again I say ENOUGH of the trash about racism, sexism, and ageism. We need to hear directly from Sarah Palin about substantive issues! not some damn moose burger, or about some stupid lipstick! The media needs to develop a spine and start doing their jobs again. Right now the McCain camp is playing a tune and the media is singing.

    Posted by Yvette September 15, 08 05:23 PM
  1. Maybe Karen needs to see the video of the rally Alaskan Women Against Sarah Palin (just shown on CNN). Karen is out of her mind! Women voting for Palin (hey, and mind you, not for McCain) are from the extreme right, were never really Hillary supporters.

    Posted by Silvi September 15, 08 05:23 PM
  1. Cindy from Cambridge,

    I'll see your:
    "They are for women's rights but only if that women is a registered Democrat."

    and raise you:
    "The Repubs are NOT for women's rights, but they'll pretend if it helps them secure votes"

    Posted by mark vf September 15, 08 05:24 PM
  1. Karen S.,

    No he didn't... You're just buying into the negative hype.

    It's interesting that, come every election, the nation separates itself into two kinds of people: those who believe/insist what they want/feel/are told to... and those who can see the truth and see for themselves...

    Despite OVERWHELMING evidence to the contrary, there are those who have somehow been convinced that what this country needs is four more years of Republican economic policy!

    DO NOT be distracted from the American economic CRISIS (the most crucial issue by far) with sound-bites from phony complaints about non-issues like pigs, lipstick, sexism, legislative v. executive experience...

    If you do not believe the American economic CRISIS is the most important issue, tell the employees of Lehman Bros. or Merrill Lynch... companies that had been around for GENERATIONS... that you don't think it's so bad... Tell your children, when you're explaining how American economic dominance was usurped by China and other countries, that it was because YOU were preoccupied by the wiles of a soccer mom and the distractions of the McCain campaign... which has YET to focus on any real issues...

    It's all smoke and mirrors... but billion dollar deficits, unnecessary wars, $4 gas, crumbling financial institutions, and trillions of debt is all REAL...

    Trust your eyes, folks...

    Please.

    Posted by Dan September 15, 08 05:25 PM
  1. As a former Hillary supporter, I'm thrilled to have the opportunity to vote for Palin.
    It's time to break through the glass ceiling. Obama has done little to advance women. He even pays his female staffers less than the male counterparts- google it if you don't believe me. Obama has done nothing to advance women. McCain has shown he respects women enough to put one on his ticket.

    PUMAs for Palin!

    Posted by anne September 15, 08 05:27 PM
  1. Sarah Palin scares me and anyone who would vote the ticket because she is on it does not care for the future of the country. John McCain seems to be running on whatever looks hot at the moment with little thought about how it will affect the long term.

    Posted by Linda Jones September 15, 08 05:27 PM
  1. The most sexist thing to happen is to have selected a totally unqualified, ill informed, right wing Bush in Female to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency just to win an election.

    Anyone who falls for this is setting back the cause for women at least 30 years.

    Posted by TJW September 15, 08 05:30 PM
  1. Um, people: am I missing something? The first two comments on this article, out of the gate, are by conservative women/Palin-supporters. That to me seems a little suspicious coming from Globe readers. I think they are shills for McCain's campaign, paid to read blogs and news and comment, and you all took the bait--look how many of you reacted to her instead of staking your own claims!

    Let's ACT, not REACT! Let's start talking about what's really at stake for most of us to undecided voters, so we can get the people who are still on the fence to vote in their own self-interest! And stop getting caught in pointless arguments, always on the defensive!

    ~Another Mama for Obama

    Posted by molly baskette September 15, 08 05:34 PM
  1. And when a women's right to choose is taken away and your libraries are purged of books. Will you be happy?

    When oil companies continue to make record profits and you wonder how to pay your heating bill this winter will you be happy?

    When the lack transparency in our regulator system allows more Bears Stearns, Lehman Bros, Merrill Lynch, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Enron to teeter and possible fail. Taking families homes, retirements and savings with them. Will you be happy?

    When the federal deficit reaches the GNP of the western world. And we kowtow to the east, because the own our debt. Will you be happy?

    When our natural resources are compromised and possibly lost forever. Will you be happy?

    When the leadership of our government imposes their religious doctrines on all of us. Regardless of court rulings. And religious beliefs. Will you be happy?
    When the blatant lies, half-truths and fabrications continue. Will you be happy?

    When you can no longer afford healthcare and prescription coverage. Will you be happy?

    The past eight years, the rights of all American and world citizens, women, men; black, white, brown, yellow; have been trampled on by a government leadership intent on maximizing corporate profits. Will you be happy?

    When your retirement is gone, because it is paying for heat, healthcare, food, and gas. Will you be happy that you let you feelings know at the ballot box?
    Yup, You sure told Sen. Obama and his campaign.

    Assuming you as a Hillary Clinton supporter, hold her values. And now choose to vote again those very same values and cast your vote out of spite. All because there is a women on that ticket is validating that which you accuse Senator Obama of doing during his primary campaign.

    Don’t drive angry and Don’t vote angry, both tend to end up in wrecks. Just look at the past two elections!
    Will you be happy that you let you feelings know at the ballot box?
    Yup, You sure told Sen Obama and his campaign.
    Assuming you as a Hillary Clinton supporter, hold her values, And now choose to vote again those very same values to cast your vote out of spite because there is a women on that ticket is validating that which you accuse Senator Obama of doing during his primary campaign.


    Posted by Brian P September 15, 08 05:37 PM
  1. You have to be kidding? Palin, a role model? Yeah, I want my daughter to get married when she's 2 months pregnant and I want her daugther to follow in her footsteps. I want my daughter to look up to someone who lies repeatedly and distorts her past to suit the moment.

    McCain sold his soul when he placed Palin on the ticket. The respect I used to have for him is long gone. His legacy will not be his distinguished military career. It will be as Judas, betraying his country for his own personal advancement.

    Posted by Crissie C September 15, 08 05:38 PM
  1. Obama copies McCain and decides to include women in his campaign. Wow, how original. Maybe if he'd waited until he had some real experience before running for president, then maybe he'd have his own experience that he can promote.

    Here's the official Obama plan to become president:
    1) Say "I'm not Bush" 10,000 times over 2 years. Blurt out the word "CHANGE".
    2) Panic when a real American hero takes the lead.
    3) Wish Hilary had won, because she had real experience.
    4) Wish he'd chosen Hilary to be VP, so she could hold his hand and tell him what to do now.
    5) Go to step 2.

    Posted by Mark H September 15, 08 05:40 PM
  1. "shut your stupid self up! if mccain get in rove vs wade will be over turned." - posted by another poster. Are people's world so small? He's not going to turn this over. Every election....time and time again, we talk about this, and time and time again, it hasn't been overturned. If people didn't call each other "stupid", I would have ignored this post.

    Didn't people say that Roe Vs Wade will get overturned w/Bush in 2000 and again in 2004? Has it been overturned? Goodness, find other points to hate the republican ticket already... this is getting old.

    Posted by Kim September 15, 08 05:40 PM
  1. If you put lipstick on a women's group--er--...

    Maybe Obama should coach a girl's soccer team. He is such a transparent socialist.

    Posted by ZerObama September 15, 08 05:41 PM
  1. Barack is laying the foundations for a true participatory American political culture. He has described the America I want to live in, and has shown that he has the leadership ability to make this vision a reality.

    I became an Obama supporter not because I thought that this smart dude would solve all of the country's problems. Rather, I found that his message of hope, delivered in a language of sense, inspired me to work harder and do more as a citizen to make this country great, for men and women alike.

    I think that Barack will do much more to advance women in this country than his opponents. My female friends and colleagues have felt attacked and alienated by Sarah Palin's acid attacks. She is not a role model for me.

    I respect Hillary Clinton and admire her intelligence and bravery. I think she has made the right decision to give 100% of her support to Barack Obama.

    Posted by Roxie M. September 15, 08 05:41 PM
  1. (1) Roe Vs Wade won't get overturned
    (2) Let’s assume that it does get overturned… it’ll go back to the state and then YOU vote for it. Oh, the horror!!

    Posted by Kim September 15, 08 05:42 PM
  1. (1) Roe Vs Wade won't get overturned
    (2) Let’s assume that it does get overturned… it’ll go back to the state and then YOU vote for it. Oh, the horror!!

    Posted by Kim September 15, 08 05:42 PM
  1. Perhaps the economy is a mess due to the DEMOCRATIC controlled congress. You see, in any socialist government, the eonomy is a mess.

    Posted by ZerObama September 15, 08 05:43 PM
  1. In response to Sara Temple's (post # 2) questions, which are obviously coming from an uniformed voter:

    1. Yes, they questioned bill Clinton's experience; you probably weren't voting back then, or clearly not following the elections.

    2. In therms of political campaigns, the size of a state is determined by population, as most of us know that acres have not been granted the fine privilege of voting.

    3. Please research the campaing of Jimmy Carter; you're really showing your own ignorance with this question.

    4. Mr. Obama is unknown only if you've had your head burried for the last several years-yet you believe we can/should trust Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the Presidency. This is why the feminist movement never fully catches on, b/c foolish women like you make us all look like idiots.

    I do agree that we shoul wake up and deny another four years to anyone pusing the Bush agenda. We have been able to witness this disaster for eight years.

    Abomination?? Now all of the sudden, being a Black man in America is a benefit???!!! BE REAL.

    Posted by glf September 15, 08 05:46 PM
  1. Well said, Karen! Finally our daughters have a true female role model to look up to. Someone to show our daughters how to hunt wolves from airplanes. Someone to explain to them that when it comes to taking on the responsibility of bearing and raising a child, someone else should make that choice for them. Someone to show them that women want to elect women, no matter their qualifications. Someone to teach women how to climb the political ladder, leaving debt in their wake. A role model to show that if you repeat a lie often enough, the press gets sick of asking you about it.

    Palin seems like a nice woman and good mother who works hard. Those aren't the only qualities I look for in a vice president.

    Posted by Ryan September 15, 08 05:50 PM
  1. This is a cover-up move. Obama has made it clear that he 1) was a better choice than the woman candidate and 2) he didn't believe ANY current Democratic woman was capable of being his running mate. Story over!

    Posted by gaypastor September 15, 08 05:51 PM
  1. Newsflash GOP wingnuts,

    "Mooselini" is NOT a positive role model for women.

    Posted by Ann September 15, 08 04:16 PM

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Okay, this made coffee come out of my nose just now. Ann, you ROCK! Waahahahaa! That was the best! And I TOTALLY agree!!! Thanks for this!!!!

    Posted by Marie M September 15, 08 05:53 PM
  1. Bottom line-- ther democratic controlled congress took this country off the cliff. All you Palin-Haters are so transparent, and running scred, so you try to turn her into the anti-Christ.

    BTW, she's got HUGE approval ratings in her state, unlike Obama.

    Posted by ZerObama September 15, 08 05:55 PM
  1. >

    Its obvious, you dope. She can't bake cookies and only knows how to skin a moose or kill a polar bear with lip gloss made from petroleum products made in Alaska. You educated Cambridge people surprise me sometimes.

    Posted by drneutrino September 15, 08 05:55 PM
  1. I hope Obama's women's group doesnt end up like Teddy Kennedy's womens group. On the bottom of the pond.

    Posted by ZerObama September 15, 08 05:57 PM
  1. I am sick of all the hype that I will vote for someone or not vote for someone because I am a woman. I have a brain and a will of my own. I vote for the person who will be able to lead our country in a time when we need a real leader. And that is Obama.

    Posted by Ruth MacVane September 15, 08 06:01 PM
  1. I'm heartened to read the mostly pro common sense, replies to the initial post by KS. The one thing we need to remember, is that the right-wing employs trolls, hackers, spies, ah***s of every stripe except blue. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the majority of the negative responses here are from right-wing trolls; rovey loves this approach, thinks it 'cool and sneaky'. hey karl, you're a nazi, we get it. The best thing to do regarding Paleface and any other nazi troll is ....ignore them completely. they only respond to pavlovian stimuli, like being told the truth about themselves, so just ignore them. eventually they'll get tired of no response and crawl back under the rocks they came from. refer to reply #30; anonymous has it right.

    Posted by b f hall September 15, 08 06:18 PM
  1. To all the women jumping on Karen S:

    BACK TO YOUR MEDS!

    Posted by The American Patriot September 15, 08 06:20 PM
  1. Another question for Karen,

    What did Obama say that was "misogynist"? Can you give us a quote? Whatever shortcomings he might have, he's trying hard to run a campaign with integrity - his only attacks have been on people's records in office, not personal.

    This decency is what makes him more likely to bring both sides together if he's inaugurated in January - McCain has already alienated those of us who had admired him by agreeing to advertise insulting lies - his ad claiming that Obama approved teaching sex to kindergartners being the worst among them.

    We're finding out that this country loves a bloodbath during elections, and it's won the Republicans plenty of elections, but it doesn't win any friends while trying to run the country...

    Posted by justin September 15, 08 06:21 PM
  1. To: Cindy from Cambridge--the reason N.O.W. has not spoken up for Sarah Palin is because those lipstick on pig comments ARE NOT DIRECTED at Sarah Palin! That was a "joke" Mr. McDiaper used in referring to Hillary's Health Care Plan.

    However-- if the Republicans assume that Mr. Obama's lipstick on a pig comment was directed at Sarah Palin...perhaps it is because they (the GOP) view Ms. Palin as a pig with lipstick!

    Posted by Maggie S. September 15, 08 06:31 PM
  1. Karen S,
    Just ignore these angry, frightened Obamanites....they're running scared of Sarah Palin and can't accept the fact that the GOP is more accepting of women than the Democrats. You go girl!

    Posted by Janet September 15, 08 06:36 PM
  1. I would be more comfortable having Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the White House then to have Obama the heartbeat of the White House.

    Posted by Former Hillary voter now with McCain / Palin September 15, 08 07:00 PM
  1. I find it absolutely repugnant to hear from the ignorant types like Karen and those so-called PUMAs. Obama ran one of the most decent campaigns against her - did you ever hear of the Clinton scandals and the drama they had in the White House? Of course not, because he warned his campaign not to go there. What about all the racist attacks against Senator Obama and his wife by buffoons like Lou Dobbs, Hanity and those other tight wing crazies? If you are not voting for Senator Obama because of the color of his skin or other factors then say so and stop your pathetic crap - this white female senior citizen is going all out for Senator Obama.

    Posted by Liz Franks September 15, 08 07:01 PM

  1. "Is it just me or is the Alaska governor more experienced that the top of the Democratic ticket?"

    Yep it's just you.

    Sarah Palin taking 6 years to get a journalism degree and no further higher education is enough to disqualify her from running for VP or President. Elected officials, especially those running for the 2 highest offices MUST be to higher standards or AT THE VERY LEAST to standards of any other high level job. She wouldn't even get an interview with that educational background. Ms. Palin does not value education, even in her own home!

    And a role model for girls? LOL What a joke!


    Posted by Sandra September 15, 08 07:04 PM
  1. I am so embarrassed by Karen and any of the other women who agree with her.
    Sarah Palin endangers everything we have worked to achieve and to vote for the McCain ticket out of spite is an insult to Senator Clinton. Wake up.

    Posted by trubee September 15, 08 07:05 PM
  1. If she won't her sister will

    Posted by fresh brains September 15, 08 07:07 PM
  1. Thankfully, I and women like myself, will not buy into the hat trick called Sarah Palin. Just because she's a woman, you think I am going to vote for her? NO way. I'm looking for intelligence and leadership and experience and the Obama/Biden ticket has it all.

    I don't want 4 more years of the Bush administration disguised in John McCain, thank you very much, even less so with his sidekick for show only, Sarah "bridge to no where" Palin.

    Posted by Catherine+ September 15, 08 07:11 PM
  1. Hill-arious! (Misspelling intended.) The Democrats have their shorts in a knot because they don't know what to do about the charismatic governor from Alaska. So they attack her on a personal level, attack anyone who might agree with her. Instead of Sen. Obama taking on Sen. McCain on the issues, he unleashes the bloodhounds (including those in the media who are admittedly infatuated with him) to do his dirty work. The same as he did in the primaries. Here’s the truth, People. This country is in real trouble. Do you understand how many seniors lost their life savings today and all of you sit there blogging about Sarah Palin’s lipstick? The Democrats and the Republicans are the same. They are both committed to their own power, not yours. Smarten up, stop sending them multi-millions to continue campaigns of hate on both sides. Donate your time and money to feed children instead. You'll sleep better.

    Posted by Kate's Nonna September 15, 08 07:13 PM
  1. palin what a role model

    the all mighty intelectual palin went to 5 different colleges in 6 years to get
    a bachelors degree in journalism..

    CLimbed up through the political ranks after finishing second
    in miss alaska beauty pagent..

    So what are we telling the future women of america you have to be pretty to be president??

    the conservative \
    women leader of germany merkel
    has a phd in physics
    and speaks 4 languages..
    Palin just got a passport last year and has never met any foreign leader

    Posted by get real September 15, 08 07:16 PM
  1. I don't know why women are going gaga over Sarah Palin. What is she going to do for me, the middle class woman? That is the question.

    What is she promising that Barack Obama doesn't have in place a better plan for? Why did she make fun of him as a community organizer? It seems to me she doesn't really care too much about community.

    In fact, the Republicans seem pretty unbelievable to me now, after these past 8 years, seeing how the economy is going, how much the government is in debt, how deregulation has led to the fall of the most powerful banks in America, mortgage disasters, people out of jobs, the turmoil in the Middle East, the way the rest of the world is now looking askance at the United States. What a mess we are in. How can I believe in the Republican promises again?

    It seems that they played me like a violin back in 2000 and 2004. New just what buttons to push. Got me chanting "Flip flop, flip flop" and waving flip flops around for them, and now.... They have just let me down. How can I let them fool me again?

    Posted by Jane September 15, 08 07:17 PM
  1. IF McCAIN/PALIn win the election that the smart thing to do is make sure Congress has a mandate of Democrats in charge so that extremes can be held in check with vetoes of bills that are too far right. This would protect all of us and good things might occur once McCain realizes he can't push extremes on Congress.

    Posted by Lee B. September 15, 08 07:18 PM
  1. Now this 'empty suit' makes up imaginery new women's groups. He takes women for stupid.

    Posted by Dmitriy September 15, 08 07:30 PM
  1. Karen,
    I'm sorry but you're foolish if you think voting for the Republicans simply because they tried to pick up on the disappointed female vote is actually good for women's rights.Palin is Cheney in a dress. Her popularity and media attention alone has already brought attention to outdated, anti-feminist ideology that holds women back.The democrats are pro-choice. Anti-abortion is the single biggest female issue since being granted the right to vote. They want to control your body through religious oppression. They want to pay you less for doing the same work. If you're vindictive and vengeful, fine, but I hope you and others like you are in the minority. I think the rest of women won't fall for this game.

    Posted by MRM September 15, 08 07:33 PM
  1. I don't quite understand why Barack Obama is continually called an elitist yet this same appellation doesn't apply to John McCain. Who is more removed from the fears and frustrations of normal people across the country, the very wealthy McCain, all of his life unto his current wife, or Obama who, with his wife, is merely upper middle class?

    Posted by Jeri September 15, 08 07:33 PM
  1. Karen - Well done. There's a need for you on the right side of American politics. They will come for you. We'll welcome you, your wit and your intellect. In a world where Islam teaches its children to cut off the heads of Infidels while a webcam streams the video to the world, all they can rail against is abortion? Incredible,
    isn't it. I'll close by saying the Whoopie isn't qualified to carry Cindy's briefcase.

    Posted by Ed James September 15, 08 07:37 PM
  1. Karen is not a real person. "She" is just one of McCain's public affairs personnel who gets paid to use blogs and comment zones to put out disinformation about Obama.

    Posted by Kenmaya September 15, 08 07:39 PM
  1. Yellers and screamers: Reading all the posts from the NE elite is hysterical. You people are so nervous, I can read it in your words. Thankfully in this election, Boston and N.E., like all national elections, is going to have nothing to do with the outcome. Watching Hillary bow down to Obama now tells the real story. Is Palin a role model, I'm not sure, but bow down to Obama? She would be more likely to tell him all the areas he is lacking! Seems like the party of inclusion has trouble inlcuding anyone that does not agree with their narrow little views. . . . this is way too much fun. Please, keep posting!!!

    Posted by NE is clueless September 15, 08 07:41 PM
  1. Repugnicants have nothing to offer but lies and deception.. the fact that Mccant put the election over country by installing that pretender for VP speaks volumes on what the GOP has. Just remember that for all the Polls that have them both tied.. there are massive voters this year who are new and are not on the voting registry list that the phone polls are missing on the dem side of the house.

    Obama by a landslide.. just watch.

    Posted by Vincent September 15, 08 07:41 PM
  1. I find it funny that the Republican talking points include constant references to Sarah Palin as "the governor of the largest state in the Union." There are at least twelve MAYORS in the USA that govern cities with LARGER populations than the whole state of Alaska. And these mayorsface REAL budget and tax issues, which people in an oil-rich state that pays people to live there would have no experience with.

    Posted by Steve September 15, 08 07:41 PM
  1. Nothing can save nObama now; not even the liberal puke media with all their loads of fluff, he is burnt toast......

    Posted by Wally September 15, 08 07:44 PM
  1. BILLIE JEAN KING???? A ROLE MODEL? NOT FOR THIS WOMAN, AND WHO THE HECK IS TORY BURCH? SALLY RIDE'S OK, BUT HOW MANY WOMEN WANT TO BE AN ASTRONAUT.

    THANKS, BUT NO THANKS, BARACK. SARAH PALIN INSPIRES MY DAUGHTERS AND I A HECK OF A LOT MORE THAN THOSE THREE. SHE'S GOT MY VOTE. YOU DON'T.

    DOES OBAMA HAVE A WOMAN PROBLEM? IT SEEMS HE REALLY DOESN'T "GET" US.

    Posted by Indievoter September 15, 08 07:49 PM
  1. John McCain, and his subordinates are Reverse Sex Discriminators and the media has enabled them. The McCain campaign has wickedly woven the idea in the media and even some in the public minds that it is okay that a candidate for the VP of the United States of America should be allowed to simply glide into that seat with no qualifications and no questions. No questions from the media. No questions from the public. Heck no questions from even FOX news! This is simply unacceptable, unintelligent and last but certainly not least, un-American! How dare we allow the McCain campaign and Tucker Bounds tell us that we have no right to question a candidates capacity to be ready on day one to handle the issues we Americans face daily. This is bigger then a gender issue. I do not care that the candidate has breasts – I care that the candidate has a brain! and can be a commander in chief on a moments notice. So far all we know about Sarah Palin is she is a Republican, flip flops on earmarks, flip flopped on the bridge, uses her public office to get back a people for personal reasons, is a ex-beauty queen, has 5 children, 1 pregnant teen daughter, a husband who does not work and she like moose meat. I’m a citizen and do I have to remind the media that through-out the Democratic primaries it was constantly said “Interview with the candidates.” Now we are at the most critical moments in history and the interview is apparently over? I think not. The candidates chose their VP picks and now they (VPs) must be interviewed also! We need to understand the true reasoning behind choices other than a strategic move to garner a particular race, gender or creed! This is not some game for the politicians, pundits and news media to have fun with. THIS IS OUR LIVES PEOPLE. I would like to know if Barack Obama had picked Kaine for VP if he would have been scrutinized so irresponsibly by the media? No because he is a man he would have been taken to the courts and fouled before the Democratic convention even convened! The media and pundits are showing a ‘hands off’ policy for this particular female politician. I think it is condescending, patronizing and insulting for the McCain campaign to hide behind the eye-glass rims of Sarah Palin! They are using her gender like a whipping board and every time someone (even female) questions her resume they are accused of being a sexist! How stupid! and how stupid of the press to fall for such a blatant ploy! Sarah Palin has had a free ride for three weeks now…I say ENOUGH! We only have 7 weeks left to an election that will change this world forever. John McCain is 72 years old – if he wins the seat as President we are putting our lives in the hands of a man who believes that economy is ‘fundamentally sound’ after the worse recorded day in Wall Street history! A woman who believes that sex crime victims must be violated not once but twice! That rape victims should bear the mental, physical and financial cost of being sexually ssaulted. We are facing economic woes that are reminding financial experts on Wall Street of the stock market crash of the 20s and still we bicker about insignificant gossip! ENOUGH! Again I say ENOUGH of the trash about racism, sexism, and ageism. We need to hear directly from Sarah Palin about substantive issues! not some damn moose burger, or about some stupid lipstick! The media needs to develop a spine and start doing their jobs again. Right now the McCain camp is playing a tune and the media is singing.

    Posted by Yvette September 15, 08 07:50 PM
  1. Republicans seem to forget the Democrats ran a woman for VP in 1984, Geraldine Ferraro. And Ferraro was much more representative of an experienced, smart female politician and it was quite ground-breaking at the time. Looking for high fives and kudos for selecting Palin, an obvious attempt to net Hillary Clinton fans rather than, seems silly. It was a desperate move by someone losing in the polls, rather than some bold step for women. There were so many brighter and better qualified women out there that Palin was chosen over. And I have a hard time seeing how a candidate that opposes reproductive rights for women can be seen as progressive in any way for gender equality, Palin seems like a step back to the 1950's attitude towards women.

    Posted by Sarah Johnson September 15, 08 07:51 PM
  1. Hey idiots...first off, Roe v. Wade will never be overturned by a politician (see Reagan, Ronald) and secondly, if it were ever to be overturned...it reverts to the state level. Now do you really think Massachussetts (or any other liberal state for that matter) would ban abortion? Nope. It's such a non-issue for both sides to even talk about!

    The other great thing is all the lefty zealots here whose votes don't matter because this state is already won. It's really ashame your votes are being wasted here in the Peoples Republic of MA. They could really use you in those key swing states...you know, the ones where Obama got his head bashed in by Hillary?? You should be VERY worried about this election now. You blew it by nominating the wrong person!!

    Posted by Dave September 15, 08 08:00 PM
  1. You might want to give a close examination of McCain's health care plan as described on his website. Sans the pol speak, it is a plan to "fix" two of the big problems Republicans have these days, by changing their appearance only. The first point is that every working person with insurance will "get" an 8000 raise on average. That is the average cost of your company contribution to your health care. This will be counted as taxable wages. You then get a 5000$ tax credit. This is McCain's "gift" to you. You aren't supposed to notice that you are now paying taxes on an additional 3000$ (again, on average). He will "work with" state governors to make state run insurance plans available - which again is pol speak for "unfunded mandate to the states". Expect your state taxes to increase to pay for the startup costs for these immense programs. And the net result? Middle class "wages" will be increased and you can't claim they are stagnant any more! AND you get health care "choice" for only about 1000$ per year more for the same coverage you now have! See, it's great for you! Oh, and I'm assuming that companies won't just say "heck with it" and drop your coverage so you get to pay the full amount to the state insurance plan out of your own pocket. All you middle class voters really need to vote McCain, he's got the solution for all your problems. Best of all, it won't cost the wealthy a cent.

    Posted by PD September 15, 08 08:03 PM
  1. Type your comment here...Being that Gov. Palin was under multiple investigations for ethics violations prior to her being chosen as GOP VP, will sets the stage for an up and coming reality check. If she fails this test the GOP and her female supporters will have bought "a pig in a poke". Rather than a role model she may be the person that thickened a new and higher glass sealing. This race to celebrity for women in politics may have been so impulsive as to victimize future gains.
    I think this could be an unfortunate possibility.

    Posted by Bob Dobes September 15, 08 08:15 PM
  1. Ah yes the women for BHO who lied, betrayed and supported BIASED MEDIA, SEXISM, RACE-BAITING and VOTER FRAUD when Senator Clinton was running, now they sell themselves once more for what... oh yes, to be thrown under the bus just like all the others who have gone before them... NO THANKS NOT THESE WOMEN... who hate women and ridicule them because they do not have the same beliefs... and then ridicule and let others ridicule them even when they have the same beliefs... NO THANKS... VOTING FOR DEMOCRACY ...not vote buying, not media manipulation and certainly not this form of sexism ... SHAME on the DEMOCRATIC PARTY-you loose.... and as for R Vs.W get real it is not going to change but thanks for scaring everyone....

    GO Mc-CAIN-PALIN 2008!!!

    Posted by MJOY September 15, 08 08:46 PM
  1. Obama Facts...He has a health care plan...da...does anyone smell a tax increase...the democrats continue to sponsor bills which cut physicians medicare rates...try and find a "good" doctor who will accept those reduced rates...bottom line you get what you pay for...tthose that think a national health care bill is the answer, go to Toronto and make an appointment to see a physician or a specialist...Can anyone say "one month wait....Wake up people!

    Posted by BL Steinhagen September 15, 08 09:03 PM
  1. Dear Sen. Obama,

    I just finished watching your latest attempt to “change the tone in Washington”—your ad attacking John McCain because he “can’t send an email.”

    Like Sen. McCain, I understand that politics ain’t beanbag. Negative ads are part of the business. In fact, as a former political consultant, I used to run them myself.

    But I can’t imagine any circumstances under which I would have ever run an ad attacking a war hero for the injuries he suffered at the hands of North Vietnamese prison guards.

    The reason Sen. McCain “can’t send an email” is because he had his bones broken and fingers crushed by war criminals who tortured him during his service to our nation as a Navy pilot. You know that. Your campaign knows that. And, in the desperate hours as your campaign flounders, you chose to turn those scars into a cynical and false attack on John McCain.

    Sen. Obama, I have the honor of working with the Fisher House Foundation, an organization that provides housing to wounded soldiers and their families. Through the Fisher House, I’ve met brave young men who lost arms and legs fighting terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    What if, Sen. Obama, one of these veterans should choose to run for public office against an “agent of change” like yourself one day? Will they have to endure ads about how they “can’t send an email,” too? You know, Sen. Obama, some of these heroes can’t play the piano, speed dial their cellphones or dance the Macarena, either. Am I to assume they are, in your opinion, unfit for duty?

    It is you, Sen. Obama, who are unfit to serve as Commander-In-Chief. Your lack of fitness is demonstrated in this disgusting attack on the painful legacy of John McCain’s service to America.

    Shame on you, Sen. Barack Obama. If your years as a Chicago machine politico haven’t stripped all sense of decency from you, you will pull this ad immediately and personally apologize to Sen. McCain.

    Because of the difficulties Sen. McCain faces in writing you himself, I am proud to write on his behalf.

    America has seen Sen. McCain’s character revealed as he has been tested under fire. Now we are seeing yours. He may not be able to send you an email, Sen. Obama, but John McCain has a lot he could teach you about honor, honesty and respect.

    Posted by Alex Ploud September 15, 08 09:26 PM
  1. Obama is just too late to the party. I am so tired of hearing his latest little identity politics pander. First it was military families -- we're supposed to bite off that "Blue Star" is a "spontaneous" and "widespread" grassroots group, and that Obama "cares" about issues that are important to military families. Totally laughable. The whole military pander is solely because Virginia is a swing state and has a high military population -- active duty and retired.

    Now I'm supposed to believe that Obama is genuinely interested in women's issues? Spare me. Women are not a monolithic voting block, and his new "group" is just another example of shameless pandering.


    Posted by Laurie M - Military spouse September 15, 08 09:37 PM
  1. Response to #2 Sara Temple

    "Admit it Liberals; if Mr. Obama was a white man named Bill Smith with the same lack of experience, and the same dearth of qualifications, he would not be the Democratic candidate. Why are we letting our white guilt and politically correct racial preference choose the next President?"

    Quite the contrary! If Obama was a white senator from Illinois with the name Bill Smith and the with same intelligence, accomplishments (e.g., editor of the Harvard Law Review, etc.), and flair for exciting and bringing people together with moving speeches, he'd be at least 10 points ahead in the polls. The country as a whole is leaning strongly Democratic after the disastrous Bush years, but there is a small minority that still can't bring themselves to voting for a black man. Remember, it only takes 5% of voters to change their minds to turn a tie into a 10 point margin. You've got this completely backwards. It is really sad that lingering and probably to a large extent subconscious racism will rob this country of the president it needs NOW and give us four more years of disastrous domestic and foreign policy brought to you by Republicans who are interested only in holding power for their own benefit.

    Posted by MikeyS September 15, 08 10:18 PM
  1. Desperate!!! McCain was desperate when he put Palin on his ticket. Women, you are smarter than that!

    She's pretty and she's "tough". Not good enough reasons to pick her as VP. McCain has become too unpredictable to be president. Our nation's best interest isn't what that man has on his mind.

    Nothing changes if nothing changes. So, please, angry Hillary supporters, have enough respect left for her to not vote for McCain. She'll work with Obama, because they're thinking in the same direction. Oppose Obama and you oppose Hillary. It isn't about the sex, not in this race.

    Posted by Tough2Name September 15, 08 10:48 PM
  1. Ok, enough America!
    Except those who can use their brains to think through issues, almost all of you have a problem!! And you know what the problem is? You don't HOW TO THINK AND REASON FOR YOURSELVES! If the whole nation is at stake in this election cycle, you need to vote for the one or the group that WILL DO THE JOB, PERIOD!!!! If you are satisfied with the past EIGHT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE vote for John Mccain if you are not vote for Barack Obama! It is that simple!.
    Another term for Lobbying is CORRUPTION so there is corruption in the government right now! If you are pleased with that go ahead and vote for Mccain otherwise if you want that changed, vote for Obama. ASK a 3rd world country and they will tell you, they are a 3rd world country because there is almost always corruption in high places and the problems those countries face are left UNSOLVED!
    I will tell you what I see, America is heading towards that and we need to change course!

    Posted by Nancy September 15, 08 11:06 PM
  1. Karen = just another bitter female... OR not a female at all.


    Kisses.

    Posted by alyssa September 16, 08 12:00 AM
  1. Hello? Common sense and reality check here. Just wondering if anybody here realizes that Merryl Lynch just went bankrupt and had to sell themselves off. Just wondering if anybody realizes that we have been at war in IRAQ for 5 years at 10 billion a month, so that's uhh..hmm...600 BILLION DAMN DOLLARS. Hello!!!

    Are you lunatics really going to give the republicans another 4 years in office. Jesus, if someone steals from me and beats me for eight years, I don't let them back in my house for 4 more years. Do you know why the republicans keep winning elections? It's because they know how shallow people really are, and they know you dont vote with your brains, but with your shallow hearts. It's true.

    You

    YoYo

    Posted by Miko September 16, 08 12:03 AM
  1. Women, we are actually stronger, more powerful when we unite. I am an Independent voter, which I have always been. It strikes me that two men are dividing us. The common cause is to advance Women. I would a thousand times over like to see Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin as my ticket, knowing that as women, they could merge their ideas and come to common solutions to better our country. MLK had his dream, I have mine.

    You can berate me for my thoughts, but nothing is being accomplished attacking each other, the divide is just becoming deeper. Historically, women are the peacemakers, the solution finders, the trendsetters. It is about time we set Washington on its heels with a new way of doing business, a one with our woman's point of view. A woman at the top, better still two women. Wrap your mind around that and tell me I am wrong .. even Martha would have to say it is a "Good Thing".

    Posted by Kate Lesley September 16, 08 01:31 AM
  1. Obama baby. He's the real leader that will watch out for women's rights, unlike Mrs. Governor who doesn't believe that a woman should have the right to choose whether or not to have a child, even in extreme cases.

    In addition, isn't McCain's running mate under investigation? She doesn't want to co-operate? Why? It certainly raises some serious questions in my mind about her and whether or not she's abused or is abusing power.

    What about her using her personal yahoo account who no one can access for State business. I don't care who the elected official is, and which party they represent, it should be illegal to use your own personal email account for government business.

    McCain has already lost this election with the choice of his running mate.

    There really is no point in even discussing it further. Can you seriously think of her as President Palin? It's a complete joke and everyone knows it. She's the one who's going to bring peace and economic prosperity to the country? Get real.

    I'm voting for the only candidate left in this election. I've voted for both parties in the past, depending on who's running. In this election, there's only one viable ticket left, and that's Obama/ Biden.

    Posted by Alice September 16, 08 01:48 AM
  1. Obama, "sweetie", it's way too little and way too late.

    Posted by LAMusing September 16, 08 02:44 AM
  1. What an idiotic move by the candidate and his camp that ignore women voters first hand.Now,if I judge his judgement in not selecting Hilliary Clinton and went for Joe Biden I'd say poor judgement.How can he ignore the female candidate who came second and has more votes than him during the Primaries and picked the guy that didn't even recieve a single vote in Iowa.Look people when you pass over a female candidate it means she is not needed by Obama the messiah so whats the rush here desperate or regret.Sorry Obama fan your guy fail in his judgement of women in this country.

    Posted by skmj September 16, 08 03:01 AM
  1. Disgusting that these so called Feminists only support LIBERAL Feminists. Not a word of praise for a woman who controls one of the most important States in the Union. She's also the most popular among the people who know her best, not the National Enquirer, but the people of Alaska. No wonder the membership at NOW is declining faster than the dollar. These Feminists need to understand that they don't talk for all women. I'm a Democrat, I'm Female and I'm voting for McCain and especially for Sarah Palin.

    Posted by Margret Morris September 16, 08 03:03 AM
  1. Sara Palin is as dumb as a stump! It is frightening to think that people would actually vote for her. She's about as qualified for Vice President as Paris Hilton! McCain is a desperate hack!

    Posted by Greg September 16, 08 07:22 AM
  1. I am for Obama and just to make it clear to the ones who want McSame, I AM worried, afraid if you will. I am afraid this country has a 50% chance to keep going backwards. Bottom line is: I don't want the same Govenment. I don't want the same economy; I want common sense and a reasonable President.

    Posted by Adriana September 16, 08 07:23 AM
  1. Good job, Karen!

    I loved your post and all the "get back in the kitchen, you stupid woman" comments just proved your point.

    Sen. Obama mentioned that women can be tennis players and astronauts, no mention of political office, though. He still can't bring himself to mention Sen. Clinton's run, can he?

    So, why does Obama getting together his own, personal group of wimmin folk not sound very inspirational? Almost like a political equivalent of a harem, or something?

    One thing of which I'm sure. He has NO idea what women want.

    Posted by PragmaticDem September 16, 08 11:18 AM
  1. PragmaticDem

    R U serious? The man is married to a highly educated women (Harvard Law Grad) and has two beautiful little girls. The most important person in his life was his mother who molded him to be the person he is today. I'm very sure he know's what women want and need, all he has to do is ask his wife or think about his loved ones. Stop being bitter, it's not attractive the ugliness shows through your words. Hillary would have been good for the Dem. ticket just as Obama is good for the Dem. ticket.

    Get back on board Hillary & Bill Clinton are supportors so let's move on and vote Obama in office if you want a change for the better. Bitterness and longing for Hillary at this point will get America nowhere.

    Posted by DJ September 16, 08 01:12 PM
  1. Great post by Karen. Thank you.

    For those posts to claim that Obama's camp is clean of sexism---Several press articles are out there---stop being lazy and do a search about the sexism in this campaign by the Obama camp!

    Or go to democraticunderground.com---an Obama site. It is full of sexist comments by its Obama posters.

    Posted by morninmist September 16, 08 01:27 PM
  1. DJ

    If Sen. Obama understood women, he'd have far more of their support.

    Remember his great affection for the song "99 Problems"? Complete with the
    shoulder brush off, to the delight of his audience?

    I do.

    He may love the women in his life, but he has demonstrated nothing but contempt for women in general. We're all the generic "sweetie" to him.

    And, your calling me "ugly", "bitter" and "not attractive" might not be the best approach to persuading me of Sen. Obama's finer qualities. You guys just can't help yourself, can you? :-)


    Posted by PragmaticDem September 16, 08 02:05 PM
  1. Senator Clinton and Governor Palin are proof that women can and do diverge on important issues.

    Even on the question of whether women should vote!

    Most people are totally in the dark about HOW the suffragettes won votes for women, and what life was REALLY like for women before they did.

    Suffragettes were opposed by many women!

    Now you can find out the shocking true story of the suffragettes in a new, free e-mail series -- The Privilege of Voting.

    Go behind the scenes in a real-life soap opera and discover ALL that happened to set the stage for women to finally win the vote.

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    Posted by Virginia Harris September 16, 08 05:00 PM
  1. Not siding here, but ... Anyone want to take a stab at the emotional damage of a Mother sending her young son off to live with his grandparents, which may be seen by a young boy as rejection? The Grandmother was clearly of a very different ideology than the mother. And, the father had also rejected the boy in his own mine. There are without a doubt some issues for the head shrinkers in this story.
    Maybe this is why he has issues with women in control. ? Just pondering the possibilities.

    Posted by Kate Lesley September 16, 08 06:34 PM
  1. "Rove vs. Wade" That's just hilarious...

    Posted by Vox Populi September 17, 08 08:47 AM
  1. Lets talk about World Peace. Something OBAMA and MCCain don't talk about.

    Google Al Gore Jeff Fisher World Peace

    ALGOREJEFFFISHER@LIVE.COM
    GOREFISHER2008@GMAIL.COM

    I AM IN PHILADELPHIA TO TALK WITH ANYONE.

    i

    Posted by JEFF FISHER September 30, 08 02:58 PM
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