Smear or playing 'gender card?'
It's day two in the "lipstick on a pig" dust-up -- the latest instance in the presidential race of the campaigns warring over words to accuse the other side of dirty pool.
John McCain's campaign is out this morning with a web ad that shows vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, during the GOP convention speech last week, saying that the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull is "Lipstick."
The spot then shows Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama telling Virginia voters on Tuesday that they shouldn't believe John McCain and Palin's talk about reforming Washington. "You can put lipstick on a pig," Obama said. "It's still a pig."
Then the ad features footage of CBS anchor Katie Couric commentating about sexism in the campaign, primarily against Hillary Clinton.
"Ready to lead? No," the announcer says over an image of Obama. "Ready to smear? Yes."
This morning, Obama blasted the McCain campaign for foisting another "made-up controversy" and "phony outrage" -- and criticized the news media for taking the bait.
"It's the same game that has made people sick and tired of politics," Obama said before an education speech in Norfolk, Va.
He said his remark was "innocent" and taken out of context and is distracting attention from serious issues such as education, the energy crisis, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The losers are "the American people," Obama said.
"These are serious times and they call for a serious debate about where we take the nation," he added.
The McCain campaign responded to Obama's comments.
“Barack Obama can’t campaign with schoolyard insults and then try to claim outrage at the tone of the campaign. His talk of new politics is as empty as his campaign trail promises, and his record of bucking his party and reaching across the aisle simply doesn’t exist,” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in a statement.
Republicans are still calling on Obama to apologize. Republican National Committee co-chairwoman Jo Ann Davidson this afternoon issued a statement:
“After making comments like the ones Barack Obama made about Governor Palin yesterday, the choice between apologizing and moving on or attacking all over again seems like a no-brainer to most Americans. Unfortunately, Barack Obama chose to dignify his offensive comments by launching more attacks and further underscoring his campaign’s relentless attempts to malign Governor Palin.”
UPDATE: Clinton came to Obama's defense, telling reporters in Washington today, "Barack has made this clear. It was no way meant as an affront."
According to accounts of the press conference, Clinton added that "Republicans need to lift up the dialogue" and blamed McCain's campaign for trying to "divert attention away from challenges facing Americans."
But Carol Fowler, the Democratic Party chairwoman in South Carolina, threw fuel on the smoldering fire, telling Politico today that Palin's “primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”
A key McCain supporter, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, called on Obama to denounce Fowler. I hope he will take this opportunity to step out and get this campaign back on track and reject this really outrageous, demeaning statement of someone who’s accomplished a lot in her life," he told reporters on a conference call.
Fowler later apologized, saying she made the statement during an interview about single-issue voters, the Associated Press is reporting.
"I personally admire and respect the difficult choices that women make everyday, and I apologize to anyone who finds my comment offensive," Fowler said in a statement.
"I clumsily was making a point about people in South Carolina who may vote based on a single issue. Whether it's the environment, the economy, the war or a woman's right to choose, there are people who will cast their vote based on a single issue," she continued. "That was the only point I was attempting to make."
Former Massachusetts governor Jane Swift, a leader of a new "truth squad" defending Palin, had blasted Obama Tuesday night, calling his "lipstick on a pig" comment "disgraceful" and asserting that "he owes Governor Palin an apology."
Swift said Obama's comment was gender-specific: "She's the only one of the four presidential or vice presidential candidates who wears lipstick."
The Obama campaign hit back, accusing McCain of playing the "gender card."
“Enough is enough The McCain campaign’s attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy -- the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s healthcare plan just last year. This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run,” Obama campaign senior advisor Anita Dunn said in a statement.
The Obama camp also sent around comments from former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee saying that Obama was not referring to Palin.
"It’s an old expression, and I’m going to have to cut Obama some slack on that one," Huckabee said on Fox News Channel. "I do not think he was referring to Sarah Palin; he didn’t reference her. If you take the two soundbites together, it may sound like it. But I’ve been a guy at the podium many times, and you say something that's maybe a part of an old joke and then somebody ties it in. So, I’m going to have to cut him slack."
And the Obama camp pointed out that McCain used the same phrase while criticizing Clinton's healthcare plan as the same as the one she pushed as first lady. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.
The Obama campaign has uncovered other instances of McCain using "lipstick on a pig."
At a February 2007 news conference on Iraq war strategy, McCain said, "It gets down to whether you support what’s being done in this new strategy or you don’t. You can put lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig in my view.”



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NEWSWIRE:
"...the difference between a hockey mom and a Pit Bull? Lipstick."
-- Sarah Palin
"You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."
-- Barack Obama
If you can let the sleeping Pit Bull lie,
And avoid the donkey and its hooving,
Then here's a rule for pigs you should apply:
They're only lying when their lipstick's moving.
www.newsandverse.com
Light verse, ripped from the headlines
It's neither a smear or the gender card. He used an idiom that has been used a million times before. The media is just doing anything they can to make sure McCain is elected.
I love it. Every time Obama opens his mouth he pukes all over himself. Double digit lead now for McCain and he'll will in a landslide come November. Just keep talking Obama!
Here we go -- as always this turns into a schoolyard fight, and the topics of importance are ignored.
Jane Swift: Stop playing the gender card. We don't care what you have to say, anyway.
Jane Swift needs to get a grip. Coming from a woman who abused her political power to make her aides her babysitters and used the state helicopter as her personal taxi - I'm not sure we should believe any type of moral judgement or opinion she renders. WAAAAAA - that's all I have to say to the Republicans and their ARMY OF TRUTH! Give us all a break and stick to the issues.
wow, can the right ever talk about issues?? no..
they just keep things at the wall to distract the public from talking about things that really matter.
this is embarrassing to most americans and most of the rest of the world.
Swift was a waste of a Gov of MA and she needs to just fade back into obscurity with her helicopter rides and husband as she and the GOP are wasting all of our time with this BS.
Did Palin apologize for the "political organizer" comment, which was code word for "uppity n***r"? I did not think so.
Jane Swift's comments are an embarrassment to women specifically and an insult to thinking humans in general. How can she seriously say this with a straight face? Of, I forgot, she's a Replublican. Lies and smears first, Country second. (Jane must be angling for a new job....)
The media gave Sen. Obama a pass when he called a female journalist "sweetie." He got another pass during the primaries when he referred to arguments from Sen. Clinton "as the claws coming out." It seems to me that given Sen. Obama's past statements, that this was a calculated sexist put down.
Not sure this is a story. But, If McCain can continue to jab at Obama and put him off his agenda and even make him appear defensive then its a valuable tactic. The real story hear is whether the press has performed well enough to reveal and present the true candidates. McCain has been self revealing and admittedly imperfect. Nothing to date of substance has been offered to the AMerican people to re-introduce Joe Biden. Believe me, westerners don't know him. He looks like he's from the same class as McCain without the sacrificial credentials. To soon to say on Palin, but for certain, the press has failed to perform on Obama. The McCain campaign staff will uncover Obama and as this trend continues, see how his support dips. Only the faithful (of which there are many)and those unrealistically expecting the delivering of impractical buerecratic promise, to do what they can not due for themselves, will follow. Thoses dupes are but a tool of Obama's plan for the presidency to complete him.
Please...the woman almost won a beauty contest. No one is going to call her a pig! He was obviously talking about the republican campaign getting "prettied-up" by putting on the lipstick of "change."
Oh, for heaven sakes Jane, you of all people should know what is sexist. Your own party threw you under the bus and we all watched in horror. Please don't be disingenuous about this just to reestablish yourself with party leaders. It makes you look pathetic.
Typical Republican spinning and missing the point. The Repub party is showing their desparation. Anyone with half a brain gets the analogy and knows Obama wasn't talking about Palin specifically rather the silly claim that Mc Cain/Palin team will reform washington.
He's not calling HER a pig. He's referring to the McCain/Palin politics. NARAL America sent out a mass email the day after Palin's RNC speech, where she in fact started the "lipstick on a pitbull" thing. Her speech writers should have thought a little harder about opening up that can of worms, if you ask me.
With friends like Swift, who needs enemies? As I remember, she used her power with the same sense of entitlement that allowed Palin to retaliate against those who didn't fire her ex-brother-in-law. No Obama wasn't referring to her, and it cheapens all women when we shriek and rail against imagined (and created) slights.
This is an old saying, I think the McCain camp is grasping at straws on this one.
Obviously an "old expression" and one that I agree with whole heartedly. If Palin is that sensitive about campaigning perhaps she should go back to Alaska and raise her family.
Ummmm....really? They're making a big deal about this? Amazing. Lipstick on a pig is an odd colloquialism that has been used for ages. I don't think Ms. Palin has the copyright on using the word lipstick in political venues.
Amazing to me that the Republicans can take this and make it all about sexism when for so long they were giving the Dems flack about playing the race card with Obama. The party is ripe with hypocrisy and moments like this make it crystal clear.
I know it's awkward, but Jane Swift is not the "former Massachusetts governor."
Perhaps you call her that as shorthand, but legally and constitutionally she was the "acting governor." She was never the "governor."
Please - McCain said the same thing last year....let's call a spade a spade...or a pig a pig...
It's the same comment John McCain used against Hillary. Who complained then?? Please don't tell me there is liberal media bias. All the media in this country is owned by millionaires and corporations who will benefit greatly if McCain makes Bush's tax cuts permanent, which he will do. I'm embarrassed for John McCain. He's not a maverick. He's a broken shell of a man who waited patiently since 2000 for his turn and did what he was told, even picking Cheney's relative for the VP spot. Bush's people kept their word as long as he played their game, read their speeches, and voted with Bush and that is how John McCain sold his meager soul.
Here's a better response from Obama. "Stop whining. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. This campaign will be tough, and if McCain and Palin are so damn sensitive about perceived slights, maybe the jobs they seek are just too tough for them. Putin, Bin Laden, and others are going to be very mean and crying about it is not going to solve the problems we face in foreign policy. I think its time the Republicans learned to toughen up a bit."
This is an old saying, I think the McCain camp is grasping at straws on this one.
What a stupid "controversy."
Hey Jane, I think you still owe the state money for all your helicopter rides.
Considering McCain used the exact same "lipstick on a pig" analogy a few weeks ago, before Palin was announced, I find this to be nothing more than the Republicans grasping at straws and trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
If McCain was a 3 year old we would call this whining and ignore it.
Here's an apology: I'm sorry Mrs. Palin, you are a wingnut novelty that has been made famous due to John McCain's long history of shooting from the hip. The country is done with gun slingers in the White House.
We've been here before, courtesy of Karl Rove and the nasty Republican tactics fo the last two elections. So none of this should surprise or shock anyone. Identity politics, social wedge issues, and a preoccupation with the superficial. These are the tools of the trade now and, unfortunately, the media plays along. So far, so good for the McCain camp. It's up to voters, particularly independent women, to see through this nonsense and to hold the Republican party accountable for its failed policies on election day. Sadly, I'm beginning to worry that it's working because we're talking about pigs and lipstick instead of issues.
This is rediculous. First, Sarah Palin's comment about hockey Mom's being pitt bulls wtih lip stick was one she elected to make and is an obvious reach out to female voters. She introduced it, not the democrats who are well within their rights to use the comment in their favor now. Second, if Swift thinks that Obama was calling Palin a pig, she is flat out a stupid person. Jane should know that thanks to her ineptitude as :acting govenor", many people now pay more attention to who is second in command. If she doesn't like that comment, she can fly out here and debate...oh wait...she only flys from Williamstown to Boston if the tax payers are picking up the helicopter tab.
Here's a better response from Obama. "Stop whining. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. This campaign will be tough, and if McCain and Palin are so damn sensitive about perceived slights, maybe the jobs they seek are just too tough for them. Putin, Bin Laden, and others are going to be very mean and crying about it is not going to solve the problems we face in foreign policy. I think its time the Republicans learned to toughen up a bit."
The first comment in this thread is absolutely 100% correct. This is an old adage used all the time by public officials including John McCain not too long ago. This is the media spinning a web of confusion for news consumers again. The choice in the campaign is between progress, moving forward, and fixing government or doing the same old thing over again and expecting different results. Obama/Biden for change and for progress.
Senator Obama, just because "everybody" says it doesn't make it any less offensive.
Good One, Obama! If the right wing can't stand the heat, they shouldn't have set the kitchen on fire!
Here's a better response from Obama. "Stop whining. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. This campaign will be tough, and if McCain and Palin are so damn sensitive about perceived slights, maybe the jobs they seek are just too tough for them. Putin, Bin Laden, and others are going to be very mean and crying about it is not going to solve the problems we face in foreign policy. I think its time the Republicans learned to toughen up a bit."
Jane Swift.....incredible how she has the nerve to critize anyone.
It is a common comment but the context he used it in was a purposeful attack on her. Obama is a sexist pig. JOURNALISTS=SEXIST for defending this piece of trash. I am discusted by the left wing media hate machine. You misogynistic morons are history.
Women are sick of this treatment and will not put up with it anymore. Palin is coming and she is going to sweep all of you idiots into oblivion.
And to all of you women supporting this sexist moron, how can you live with yourselves? I can understand not agreeing with Palin, that is your choice. But to vote for Obama's sexist hate machine you really have to dislike yourself and all women. If you can't vote for Palin then dont' vote at all.
LIBERAL=SEXIST
Jane Swift we hardly new ye...now go back into hiding and stop making a fool of yourself with absurd comments and your pretend "truth squad" nonsense.
Good One, Obama! If the right wing can't stand the heat, they shouldn't have set the fire!
Please.
Anyone ever heard of a colloquialism? The context was Obama talking about McCain's putting a nice sounding spin on the same ol' Bush policies. Look it up. It had nothing to do with Palin.
Can we have some real talk about real issues? The economy? The conflict in the middle east, perhaps?
Next Up: "Stuffed shirt" will be taken to unfairly treat those that have elected breast augmentation.
Swift should let Palin ask for an apology. What an idiotic comment / request. If sexism is going to be a part of the GOP play book, I am going to write in Ron Paul.
I was offended by the comment.
Would you like it if someone made that comment about your wife, daughter, sister or mother?
Isn't the reason we supported Obama because he was suppose to be above these kinds of comments?
Did Palin apologize for the "political organizer" comment, which was code word for "uppity n***r"? I did not think so.
Posted by Jerry Port
THAT WAS A RACIST REMARK?? SO ALL ORGANIZERS ARE BLACK???
So its okay for McCain to use the phrase "A Pig With Lipstick" when he is talking about hillary clintons healthcare plan. And its okay when McCain in 1998 said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? because her father is Janet Reno" Which is insulting two women.
But not cool for Obama to say it.
Politics As Usual
Kudos to Obama. The radical right wing GOP set a fire, now they're running around trying to pretend that they can't stand the heat!
"You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear."
McCain/Palin get over it. It is no big deal.
Are we really reduced to arguing over these words when we have SERIOUS issues facing us as a country? We are losing ground to other countries on global leadership, economies, respect.
I have decided we are no longer going to be America the Superpower, but America the Used to Be. Our grandchildren will be told stories of when America was great while reading about the technological greatness of China, Russia, India, Dubai and others.
So I guess the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama is that Barack's lipstick smears.
Obama should apologize to the pig. They don't deserve to get lumped in with McShame and Failin'.
How about neither? In the past McCain used the phrase himself, as did Dick Cheney. And I'm positive Palin has no copyright on the word "lipstick."
It's a common figure of speech, for the Love of Larry! McCain's economic adviser, Phil Gramm, has twice called Americans "a nation of whiners." Those good swift-boating folks should know. Collectively, they constitute the vintage whine of the Century, eager to dish out the sludge and even more eager to cry tears of outrage when they perceive unintended slights from the other side.
Let's talk about issues: the national debt, the rising wealth gap, the cost of food and education, our status among nations, etc. Let's not make this election about lipstick, even though Sarah Palin first brought the matter up.
Please...the woman almost won a beauty contest. No one is going to call her a pig! He was obviously talking about the republican campaign getting "prettied-up" by putting on the lipstick of "change."
REALLY? SO WHEN HE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED UP THE PIG COMMENT WITH A DIG ABOUT WRAPPING OLD FISH, HE WASN'T REFERRING TO MCCAIN?
re #7, you echo the comments reported this morning of New York's governor, who, as it happens, is also black (although I would have thought he'd be color blind, being blind and all....). To both of you, thanks for decrypting the code for me and everyone else who had not made the connection (irony intended).
While McCain's comment was ORIGINAL, and could only reasonably be interpreted in its context as directly pertaining to characterization of the issue over which he and Clinton disagreed (and not as an ad hominem attack on Clinton), Obama's comment, by contrast, was calculated and DERIVATIVE, coming hard on the heals of Palin's pit-bull-in-lipstick schtick. Despite his campaign manager's protestations to the contrary, Obama's comment was indeed a gender-specific attack -- in the spirit in which it was intended. I am not a supporter of either candidate, by I interpreted Obama's comment in no other way, and I think Swift was probably correct to denounce it.
Now this is just plain bickering! I defended Palin when attacks were geared towards her family. I heard what Sen Obama said in detail and did not feel like it was directed towards Gov. Palin. Read the transcript. As a solid republican supporter I must agree that it is a cheap use of the sexist card by the republican party. Do research and you will find it is common Washington verbage also used by McCain at one point. Lets grow up and wait to hear what she has to say on her views and direction of the country. Lets not play the victims when we are just as much to blame on scrutiny of our opponents! To be frank bickering like this and playing victim is really turning me and alot of other McCain/Palin supporters off. It is getting to the point that sheerly the media and our opponents feel like they are walking on thin ice when mentioning her. Almost as if she is untouchable. Republican strategy and tactics are getting old and boring. We are gonna lose to dems because of this. Lets grow up and stick to facts. C'mon....Thanks!
So McCain says the EXACT quote about Hillary, and does he apologize? Of course not.
And....McCain actually called Mitt Romney a pig too - once again, double standards for the Rebuplicans.
McCain's hoping to win just by calling Sexism against Palin on every issue....Any self-respecting Woman would know better then to believe the Palin hype...and this lays bare what she is there for. So McCain can take any attack and call it sexist...this is exactly what Obama wanted to expose...pure genius Obama...pure genius!
It's wonderful when we can get a break from hearing what the candidates have to say about the war in Iraq, the economy, gas prices, global warming and any of the many other issues that actually matter, and instead discuss a figure of speech that's been around just about forever.
Oooh, I said "figure". That's likely a veiled insult to the woman in the race, saying she's fat. And I said "forever", which is evidently an attack on John McCain's age. I'm guessing I also somehow offended the Obama camp, too.
So McCain says the EXACT quote about Hillary, and does he apologize? Of course not.
And....McCain actually called Mitt Romney a pig too - once again, double standards for the Republicans.
We all know what is going on with the "lipstickgate". Palin starts her meteoric rise with her famous difference between "Hockey Mom and a Pit Bull is Lipstick" analogy and one week later Obama "innocently" uses and old idiom about putting lipstick on a pig, coincidence I think not. Obama never used the phrase during the last 19 months of campaigning, why now? Obama thought he was being clever and it blew up in his face. Like it or not Dems the more Obama gets nervous and speaks off the cuff a different less eloquent candidate emerges.
The Real Obama is what we are beginning to see and it is not uplifting, poetic or charismatic, he is this camgaign's train wreck.
Seriously...Jane Swift trying to make a claim on poliltical "ethics" and embracing the virtues of the higher road and truthfulness by reading into a comment as innocuous as this? This is a clear testament as to why she didn't last in politics, and why she was absolutely worthless for the limited time she did serve the Commonwealth (I use the term "serve" VERY loosely).
Obama's comments were clearly stating the obvious; the McCain campaign is simply trying to "dress up" worn and ineffectual tactics and policies, but at the end of the day there's only so much primping you can do to put a sheen on a tarnished policy record. There, I'm sure Jane would try to make a connection that my comment is still derrogatory because the word "dress" was in there and there's only one woman in the campaign so it MUST be directed at Palin. Right, because her pea-sized brain isn't able to comprehend a figure of speech vs. taking things too literally.
Alright then, fine, I'll just make it derrogatory now: JANE...GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN YOU BLOATED, BUBBLE BUTTED IDIOT AND MAKE ME A CHICKEN POT PIE!!!!
The last two elections were nothing more than Republican Smear Campaigns.
Now they complain. McCain had my respect and possible vote, until he caved into his party and nominated here. It is now obvious, MaCain is the Lipstick on the Republican Pig.
Jane Swift is the most useless and ineffective MA politician of all time.
I had the distinct pleasure of interning in the Governor’s office during her rein of terror and I remember distinctly how she told us about her days of interning and how she was “boy crazy” and nothing about what it was like to be Governor.
Figures she would be the leader of the “truth squad” supporting a women who has the intellect of a cantaloupe. Although, I do give Palin credit for perusing that difficult BA in Journalism. It must have been very trying transferring five times in six years: Hawaii Pacific University, North Idaho College, University of Idaho, Matanuska-Susitna College, University of Idaho again.
Idiocracy has begun.
If Hockey Mom's and Pit Bulls are so tough, why is Palin afraid to answer questions from the press--or even from the public at campaign stops? She's only tough when she's spouting scripted rhetoric and it is becoming painfully obvious she is not trusted by her own party to stand on her own 2 feet.
Whew! Thank the lord all the serious issue facing America have been solved so we can debate this inane drivel! Pass the popcorn.
This has Karl Rove's name all over it.
The GOP has nothing, and they know it. The only thing that will fly is false outrage, and a manufactured "slight" against no one.
The media, of course, laps this all up in the name of ratings, and the party faithful, most of which are hardly smart enough to walk upright and use simple hand tools, fall into lockstep behind it.
Next week, Obama will mention the chickens coming home to roost, which will be seen as a knock against Gov. Palin’s small-town upbringing and Alaska’s “self-reliant” people that raise their own chickens.
It does not matter what he said or didn’t say.
He is a MUSLEM; he even said by chance that he has MUSLEM FAITH.
He hates WHITES and JUWES!
So its okay for McCain to use the phrase "A Pig With Lipstick" when he is talking about hillary clintons healthcare plan. And its okay when McCain in 1998 said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? because her father is Janet Reno" Which is insulting two women.
But not cool for Obama to say it.
Politics As Usual
To Poster named ED
I agree 100% with you. He also tried to make fun of her for moose hunting. All in the same speech. I heard it on ABC last night. He did the same thing to Hillary calling her Annie Oakley. He can do what he wants say what he wants and gets away with it. The media has allowed this for some time. He also has shown these past few weeks that when the spotlight isn't on him and him alone, he gets pi$$y. True colors starting to show!!
I don't know which news shows some of these people are watching but they have never been on board with John McCain. They all but ruled him out and Nobama was their star. Now that the majority of the population has turned in favor of McCain they are all beside themselves. Realizing now their biased opinions are showing. Democrats are beside themselves too, that's why Nobama sent teams of attorneys and had his 300 or so advisors go to Alaska.
Well, the McCain campaign can't run on substance, so they have to run on this sort of thing. And they know they can count on the so-called "liberal media" to play along.
Obama's comment was a clear slam at McCain's policies, and McCain chose to hid behind Palin. Lame.
Everyone knows that Obama is best suited for teleprompters and well-rehearsed speeches. When he tries to speak off the cuff or in a town hall setting then what comes out sounds elitist, speaking down to people, snobbish, and condescending. He just can't help it.
Advice to Obama's handlers - don't let him loose!! Stick a teleprompter in front of him! He will sink the Dems' chances on his very own.
No one cares what Jane Swift has to say. We're trying to forget her time as "acting" Governor of this state. She is/was an embarrassment. Give her a one way helicopter ride to Alaska, please.
Dear Republicans, why aren't we talking about the ISSUES? Your candidates aren't talking about them and neither are you.
Stupid people- The bottom line is that the "lipstick" word was just coined recently by Palin. Obama used poor judgment in using that phrase. I'm sure he didn't mean to call Palin a pig, but it didn't sound good. It's just bad judgment. He could have used another phrase. He is so stupid. It's incredible. But I don't mind his stupidity, and everyone else campaigning for him, because they are helping to put McCain in office.
So word to all you libs out there: Keep it up! Thanks for the double digit lead!!
Obama's "lipstick on a Pig" comment could be his "tar baby". We all know that they are both idioms from the lexicon of our language, so I guess it OK..
McCain/Palin '08 We're on a road/bridge to nowhere
Obama bin Biden We'll smoke him out of hiding
Two politicians no real solutions
What do you do?
What - Do - You - Do?
Everyone knows this old saying. This is ridiculus. Do you really, really think that any politician would directly call another a pig in a speech? Regardless of gender.
And Ed "saying the claws are coming out" is not gender specific, in my opinion."Its like saying "the gloves are coming off". This oversensitivity makes women look like a bunch of crybabies, not what your should be selling if you are trying to get elected by choosing a woman vp. Mc Cain/ Palin know rightly this was not an insult to the her directly, and they should have more sense than to suggest otherwise.
This whole issue is stupid, petty, and designed to grab headlines.
This whole issue is an attempt to grab headlines on the "pig issue and divert attention from the real headlines....how bad our economy is and how much worse it is getting.
For years we have focus on Iraq and Guantanamo and Waterboarding and Blackwater. Meanwhile the simmering real estate catastrophy, the growing trade imbalance, the budget deficit, the falling american went largely unnoticed.
Now the entire financial system seems on the verge of collapse. Bank failures, people lining up to get their money, government bailouts of failing private financial institutions, rising inflation, people abandoning their homes...this country is in deep deep doo doo
And what to the politicians want to talk about......lipstick on a pig.
If things are this bad and the comment about pigs is the major issue you are concerned with...you don't deserve to serve in the whitehouse.
And YOU know who I'm talking about
When Governor Palin made her comment comparing herself to a pit bull, she did not say it to draw attention to her resembling a pit bull, ....or did she?
The GOP's reaction by playing the gender card and releasing a swift goading ad campaign only confuses me more. Was the GOP ad released in defense of pigs, pit bulls, Governor Palin or all three?
Karl Rove lives and his political ploy, divert and defeat, is in game again.
I think we have had enough of Bush, Rove, and the GOP. Let's get serious and devote time to solving our country's real problems.
Jane Swift??? Speaking of lipstick on a pig....
When Governor Palin made her comment comparing herself to a pit bull, she did not say it to draw attention to her resembling a pit bull, ....or did she?
The GOP's reaction by playing the gender card and releasing a swift goading ad campaign only confuses me more. Was the GOP ad released in defense of pigs, pit bulls, Governor Palin or all three?
Karl Rove lives and his political ploy, divert and defeat, is in game again.
I think we have had enough of Bush, Rove, and the GOP. Let's get serious and devote time to solving our country's real problems.
The more Obama talks the better it's looking for McCain/Palin. How negative can he and Biden get? They are gettting very desperate...so is the media.
Obama is made to look silly each and every day. It is an astonishing that Democrats have put this Freshman Senator - in the senate for 143 days before he announced - forward as a presidential candidate. Go back to "Community Organizing" . His community needs one since the number of deaths in his former district was 125 over the summer - which is MORE than Iraq.
He has surrounded himself with Socialists, radicals and bigots most of his life- that's all fact my fellow Americans. We don't need his kind of Change for America. McCain/Palin in a landslide. Country First. God Bless America.
Barack Obama said Wednesday 'enough is enough' when it comes to the McCain campaign's claim his recent 'lipstick' comment was a sexist attack leveled at GOP VP candidate Sarah Palin.
"Spare me the phony outrage. Spare me the phony knee talk about change," Obama said at the beginning of an education event in Virginia. "We have real problems in this country right now. The American people are looking to us for answers, not distractions, not diversions, not manipulations. They want real answers to the real problems we are facing."
Two politicians no real solutions......What do you do? What - Do - You - Do?
McCain Palin '08...We're on a road/bridge to nowhere
Obama bin Biden...We can smoke him out of hiding
She's a pig, Obama's a Muslim, McCain's bitter and demented, Biden's a Washington insider.......we're boned......as usual.
Unless the McCain/Palin camp is in fact claiming that Palin is a pig, nobody else is. If the GOP plan is to continue to say one thing then either say something completely opposite or blast the democrats for saying the exact same thing later, then I guess we know what their own views, positions, and words are worth.
When Governor Palin made her comment comparing herself to a pit bull, she did not say it to draw attention to her resembling a pit bull, ....or did she?
The GOP's reaction by playing the gender card and releasing a swift goading ad campaign only confuses me more. Was the GOP ad released in defense of pigs, pit bulls, Governor Palin or all three?
Karl Rove lives and his political ploy, divert and defeat, is in game again.
I think we have had enough of Bush, Rove, and the GOP. Let's get serious and devote time to solving our country's real problems.
Last weekend, Obama was in Pennsylvania at a rally and referred to Penn State's football team as the "Nittally Lions"..ouch. Barack -it's the Nittany Lions!
Does this remind anyone of Kerry's "Manny Ortez" comment on national TV at the Red Sox game? John it's Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz...they are 2 different people.
What Obama needs to do is call McCain out. Pull the surrogates off of the viscous cable news cycle and ask John McCain to state flat out whether he thinks he (Obama) is sexist. He needs to ask on a national scene, maybe a press conference why McCain is focusing on wedge issues and cutting off access to the press.
Or maybe he should bring back McCain's "Hot chicks dig Obama" ad which truly was a sexist ad. Ask why John McCain thinks women are so stupid they vote not with their pocket books in these tough economic times but based on looks. American women are smarter than that. This would be a strong counter punch.
Oh sure "It's an old saying." Please!!! The audiance knew BHO was referring to Palin. And, for Obama, the "master" of public speaking, and this "great Ivy League elite thinker", to be "surprised" now that anyone would think he WASN'T referring to Palin is disingenuous.
What problem does "the Chosen One" have with women anyway? Remember the snide comment he made to Hillary about her being "likable enough"?
Then again, it's probably just the stress getting to him....seeing how he's dropping in the polls.
Mitch and Ed are obviously buying the same old republican scam. They can't offer anything of substance so just use lies and halve truths. Was it is sexist when Obama used the same phrase against President Bush last year? Was it sexist when McCain used it against Hilary Clinton's healthcare policy last year? I think not and their claiming sexism now is just wanting to have their cake and eat it too. It seems to me the republicans put Palin in the race for these reasons....say we are great for having a woman on the ticket...but hands off, because she is a woman. That is true sexism.
I'm not 100% sure Obama was referrign to Paline when he said teh lipstick/pig comment. But I am sure that the crowd behind him (at least) did. You could tell by their enthusiastic laughter as soon as he said the word lipstick. It's hard to believe that for all this looong campiagn, the word lipstick was never used till last weds. night - and now both Obama and Biden use it when 'referring to something else'. Count me as skeptical.
Didn't McSame offer his wife as a topless dancer not 4 weeks ago? Where are the calls of sexism on that? Even if he didn't know it was sexist, using women in beauty contests sure is sexist.. RIGHT? RIGHT? Where's the RIGHT's defense of women in terms of exploitation? Oh RIGHT, it doesn't exist.
Hypocrites!
What’s the difference between a snippy, annoying little Chihuahua and Sarah Palin? NOTHING. What’s the difference between Sarah Palin and every other deceptive, lying Repug on the planet? NOTHING.
Of course, the McBush people pull the (centuries old) expression out of context and claim it is aimed at the lipstick wearing pit bull. Listen to the rest of the speech. For an entire minute before that statement, Obama says McBush’s name about 5 times. Sarah goes unmentioned. :-(((. What’s the matter, Sarah? Feeling left out? Obama is talking about McBush’s promise to change Washington and his idol’s (and role model’s) politics-as-usual. Then without ever mentioning Her Pit Bullness’s name, compares McBush’s promise to change what he has been rubber stamping for almost 8 years to putting lipstick on a pig. And Janey, I don’t think the statute of limitations on misappropriating public funds has run out. We can still sue you to recover what you stole from us. Helicopter rides don’t come cheap. Nor do State House babysitters. If Obama says something about making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, will that be a sexist comment about Her Pit Bullness’s pocketbook? Don’t the Repugs ever want to be honest? Even just once to see what it feels like?
#9. ABSOLUTELY Correct, the media has given him a pass, I was insulted and she should be also.
Hahaha! Obama knows that Rove's new lapdog, John MCain, is NOT an agent of change. That is putting lipstick on a Hog.
If it walks like a Duck and Quacks like a Duck. It must be a Duck. Look at MCcain's lobbiest and Rove trained henchmen. Ducks in a row!
Democrats say their guy is experience plus substance
Republicans say their guy is experience plus substance
Democrats say the other guy is not right for the job
Republicans say the other guys is not right for the job
According to all the adds and name calling you both suck.
I don't know who I hate more!
Maybe it's just because I'm getting old, but that saying is very well known. Does Sarah Palin get the exclusive on the word lipstick now? WTH is this world coming to anyway? People really can't be this dumb, can they? You mean all these people getting mad about this have never heard this saying before? Give me a break!
As I've mentioned before, hit 'em where they (the Repubs) don't have answers, which is anything regarding their policies about healthcare, the ecomony, foreign relations, education, etc. Also, didn't Palin describe herself as a lipstick-wearing-hockey-mom-pitbull-type of person?
If she can't stand the heat, mabye she should get out of the kitchen......er, maybe that was "sexist," mentioning the kitchen. Seriously, though, wasn't McCain's pick of Palin sexist, thinking women will just flock to their campaign, just because Palin is a woman? Tell me that isn't sexist.
Yesterday, Missouri Rep. Russ Carnahan, appearing at a speech by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, said that Palin is “someone with zero experience in national government, zero experience in foreign affairs. There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick.”
Come on Democrats! Rise above it! You're trying to act cutesy with your lipstick analogies and it's backfiring big time. Dems don't do cutesy very well. It comes across as belittling and mean-spirited. We know what you're trying to say but you're not going to win this one on being cutesy.
Also, be a little more sensitive to how lipstick was branded by Gov Palin during her acceptance speech. Once she applied the word to help describe her it became off-limits in any other context. Love it or hate it, it's reality. Try talking to a marketing person in business to learn about branding and how much of an impact it can have on your campaign.
Isn't that like the "pot calling the kettle black"? Oh, that would be racist, wouldn't it!
I saw this and I can't possibly see how that could be considered a smear against somebody who isnt even mentioned! He's talking about POLICIES.
Makes me wonder if it is the republicans who have the sexism problem here - seems they are the ones who cannot hear the words " lipstick" and "pig" together without immediately thinking of "Sarah Palin".
McCain's reaching beyond his capability as he clutches at straws. Recently obvious, he's trying hijacking everything... from his own maverick mantle as a young(er) 64 year old, being sexist by playing protective overly-sensitive father, a game he initiated by partnering with a younger woman.., now by trying to hi-jack Obama's true message of change .. even his ads are now using the the same ..."more of the same" line.
He's "matured""beyond being able to have an original and issue related fresh idea... it's ridiculous to attempt to own any reference to lipstick as being Sarah Palin's and only Sarah Palin's sole identifier.
As the US burns, stop fiddling with the "lipstick" ...Act braver and smarter... talk about the real and crucial national issues.
Does anyone else think that the McCain campaign has some serious big brass ones by hiring someone named Swift(boat) to head up their "Truth Squad?" Do they have a vetting pprocess for ANYTHING?!?
Republicans are terrific at winning elections, too bad they're terrible at actually leading the country.
Who really cares what Jane Swift thinks? This isn't about her and she is desperately trying to be relevant. Just because she and Palin both exercised their wombs while in office doesn't make her an expert on everything related to Palin.
Swift and others are being terribly literal. "Lipstick on a pig" is a common expression, plain and simple. Was it unfortunate for Obama that Palin had just made that whole lipstick and pitbill analogy? Yes. Does Palin wear lipstick? yes. But does it mean that his comment was sexist or even ABOUT Palin? That's a stretch.
What Obama should have said was- 'You can put lipstick on a moose...'
Now THAT would have been an insult.
Palin referred to her self as a Pit Bull which is a very unstable vicious breed and attacks only children and the elderly. Which is what McCain/Palin is proposing with their welfare cuts and social security plans. Seldom ever hear of an attack pig with or without lip stick, so could not have been referring to Palin.
Obama's full quote, in context, according to the NY Times:
“John McCain says he’s about change, too — except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics,” Mr. Obama told his supporters here. “That’s just calling the same thing something different.”
With a laugh, he added: “You can put lipstick on a pig; it’s still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change; it’s still going to stink after eight years."
Somebody please tell me how anyone buys this is a sexist comment about Sarah Palin.
This is an absolute joke. Look at the context of what Obama was saying - he wasn't even talking about PALIN!
I am simply stunned that Karl Rove politics, phony outrage and gutterball tactics are going to win yet another election for the Republicans. The stupidity and ability to vote against self-interest that the average American displays is absolutely mind-numbing. America just went through 8 of the worst economic years on record and our global standing is in the crapper thanks to these moronic Republicans in office and it looks like we have to get ready for at least another 4 years of the same.
Holy cow. I just can't believe how easily manipulated people are by this gutterball junk to vote against what is clearly their own self-interest. It honestly astonishes me. What a dirty business politics is.
If the Republicans get all bent out of shape over 'lipstick on a pig,' how are they going to stand up to Putin?
Playing the gender card in this clumsy fashion will surely backfire on McCain.
This is all funny. This election must have been about issues but looks like it has shrinked to just words. People, media waste the whole network in discussing the comments. Palin is not giving interview, media is not discussing about the 8000 soldiers coming back from Iraq, they have no issue related to Fannie and Fraddie. Its all crazy and words words and words.....no insight how replublicans or democrats are going to do reforms no detail plans. Instead, just pointing fingers- who is who.
One thing IS true and that is that people calling themselves a "truth squad" are always LYING.
I think Obama is right on the mark. I mean what else can the GOP do but put lipstick on a pig? I think McCain’s VP is a desperate attempt to repackage the Republican "Brand" in a new maverick mythology, which by all stretches of the imagination is entirely chimerical.
I think it will be difficult for Republicans to make any substantial arguments against affirmative action after this pick. Affirmative action not for individual uplift but as desperate political maneuvering is a cynical betrayal of principals to gain power.
One question - and please answer honestly:
Were Palin a man, would McCain have picked her? Point made.
...and now John McCain only wants to talk about Palin.
Why? Skepticism isn't sexism.....
Do you love how the McCain campaign is exploiting women by his VP pick?
It seems to be working and it is a sign of how gullible people are.
Before Palin, McCain was a no go for women. So the McCain campaign picks a woman with just about the same opinions and record as McCain, and women start falling in line? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
What does that say about American women?
liberals are funny
Why is the press behaving as if they have never heard of the idiom before? I did not think it was offensive at all. And as a working mom, working parent for that matter, I am tired of hearing the Republicans complaining about gender bias.
Agree with POST #46. Absolutely. This is "deflect the attention to a made up controversy because we're bankrupt of REAL ideas and leadership" politics played by McCain and his lip-sticked running mate.
How ridiculous.
It's obvious Obama wasn't referring to her. McCain has used the same terminology, and it was broadcast last night on network TV. The clip was from MAY of this year.
Good grief. This is low even for the lowest bottom feeder of all, Karl Rove...who we KNOW is a big part of the McCain campaign behind the scenes.
Can we TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES, PLEASE!!!!!!!??????!!!!!?????
I think Obama should be the one thinking about what he wants to do if he wins instead of putting down the other party... Why did he even say that? To say the least, whoever thought that pig comment was a good idea, should be thrown to the wolves, and if it was his idea that was a bad move and he's going to pay for it in the long run.
Love how the Globe gives us two choices: smear or gender politics. How about a third: b.s.? I think we'll have to endure two or three more Hockey Mom news cycles before the press gets bored and maybe starts doing its job.
I think Obama should be the one thinking about what he wants to do if he wins instead of putting down the other party... Why did he even say that? To say the least, whoever thought that pig comment was a good idea, should be thrown to the wolves, and if it was his idea that was a bad move and he's going to pay for it in the long run.
Oh come on, Jane Swift isn't all that bad - after all, she never hunted from the state helicopter!
Sarah Palin and the GOP are using sexism as a weapon. While there have been some blatant sexist attacks against her (like the photoshopped images making their way around the internet), the gender card has been used and abused time and time again to keep the media from asking her hard questions. It's too bad, since I was giving serious consideration to voting Republican for the first time in my life.
Bad day for the Dems yesterday. Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment coming only a week after Palin's famous "lipstick" quote. And in the next sentence referred to "an old fish."
This was on the same day that Joe Biden told a paraplegic to "STAND UP AND LET 'EM SEE YOU!" Morons!
so if I say "I like your wife's lipstick" and then someone utters that "saying", you would not be offended, right?
are you kidding me?? mccain exploiting women?? give me a break. and to all those who comment "quit whining" , wasn't it just last week all the dems were bent out of shape about some little known rep. using the word "uppity"?? those in glass houses....
i mean, it the dems get all bent out of shape over "uppity" how are they going to stand up to Putin??
I do not understand why the press is clearly falling in for the Karl Rvoe tactics again. The idiom is a common one; maybe if Republicans could relate to all that is common in America, they would know this one.
If Obama is allowed to call Palen a pig, I think it's time for McCain to start calling Obama a MONKEY.
Democrats like to play the gender card...as long as it works in their favor. It's amazing how quickly they forgot about Hillary.