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Advocates slam McCain over abortion remark

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor October 16, 2008 01:06 PM


Abortion rights advocates are jumping all over John McCain's answers during Wednesday night's debate, when he suggested that the "women's health" exception to abortion restrictions is sometimes abuse.

They are particularly aggrieved that McCain used the air quotes motion during the discussion.

"If McCain is going to regret anything from last night's debate, it just may be his mocking women's health to a national audience," Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, said in a statement. "His disregard for women's health caused a national gasp, as McCain let slip the truth about his extreme position on choice -- a reality he tends to save for speeches to his far-right base. If women in this country are still undecided, they won't be after watching last night's debate."

Women's groups are focusing on abortion to reach out to female voters -- particularly those who supported Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama during the Democratic primaries -- who might be tempted to support McCain.

Obama supports Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide.

McCain supports overturning Roe, letting the states pass their own laws, and eventually ending abortion through more adoption and prevention of unwanted pregnancies.

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"Obama supports Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide." Ah, but he does not want to stop there. He is a co-sponsor of the is a cosponsor of the "Freedom of Choice Act," which would make partial-birth abortion legal again, and invalidate literally hundreds of state laws that have been upheld even under Roe v. Wade. This bill, by its plain language and the explicit statements of its chief backers, would invalidate all parental notification laws, require states to fund abortion on demand, and
invalidate waiting periods and informed consent laws -- just for starters. It is the most radical pro-abortion proposal ever introduced in Congress. Yet, Obama stood before the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, the political arm of the nation's largest abortion provider, and pledged, "The first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do." Obama also opposes renewal of the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits federal funding of most abortions. McCain's statement on the legal meaning of "health" was the simple truth -- in fact, Supreme Court has defined the term "health" to include, in the abortion context, "all factors -- physical, emotional, psychological, familial and the woman's age -- relevant to the well-being of the patient." The "Freedom of Choice Act" would not allow states to adopt any narrower definition. Therefore, the substance of Obama's formula is to allow abortion without any meaningful limitation even during the final months of pregnancy.
Douglas Johnson
National Right to Life Committee

Posted by Douglas Johnson October 16, 08 01:36 PM
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Pregnency and abortion affect individual women and their bodies, including their minds. It is no one's, not even the government's right to dictate what women can and can't do with their own bodies in respect to their health at all ends of the spectrum. Being pro-choice does not mean being pro-abortion, it simply means that the decision to have or to not have an abortion is a personal and individual decision and should not be dictated by an elitist government in Washington who has no concept of understanding the plight of individual women who must make this choice. Women are allowed, by law, to get all the cosmetic surgery they want in order to turn themselves in to Barbie, yet when it comes to a serious medical, financial, and emotional issue, Republicans, led by McCain and Palin, do not think individual women should have the RIGHT to not only make the decision for themselves, but to even have the option.

Lindsay H.,
a woman who strongly opposes the notion of a 72 year old man dictating what I can and cannot do with my own body, life, and future.


Posted by Lindsay H. October 16, 08 02:03 PM
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i think that they both suck and that our country is screwde no matter what happens b/c of obama saying CHANGE but we know its jus for what we want to hear and not for the country and MCcain wants to lower the ceo's taxes when they make more than anyone and i think that we should get tougher on the twelfair b/c people can sit on there asses all day and just go in there and get free money and its not fair to everyone else and i think that people should take responcibility for there actions and that only some people should be allowed to get abortions and when you take that risk of having sex then you should be aware of the consequenses. im sorry but its just how i feel

Posted by Angela sciabica October 16, 08 02:10 PM
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Please, the govmt. needs to stay OUT of family issues. Also, McCain ridiculed women when he said "health" was an excuse to have an abortion. Both he and Palin are extremely condescending to women.

Posted by Sam October 16, 08 02:16 PM
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Douglas Johnson - a man! This is a woman's issue - period. Not YOURS. Stay out of it. I don't see you carrying a baby to term or remotely identifying with any of the gender inequalities and/or situations which neccessitate such a personal FEMALE issue. You can't defend such a backwards idealogoly. A GOP idealogoy - the platform of wonder bread, balloons, symbolism and fear mongering.

Find a cause which does not interfere with that of the other gender. Butt out!


Posted by Ron Jones October 16, 08 02:33 PM
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I am really getting tired of hearing about partial birth abortion. A VERY tiny percentage of abortions are partial birth, and almost all of them are done so because there is something wrong with the child (deformity or severe brain damage) or there is danger to the woman. Women are NOT abusing this procedure. No one wants to get a PBA, it's a horrible expereince. But it's something that sometimes is needed and should not be taken off table. Just because you make something illegal, doesn't stop it. Overturn Roe V Wade and abortion doesn't end, it just becomes more dangerous to the women who are desperate.

Posted by Julia October 16, 08 02:39 PM
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"i think that we should get tougher on the twelfair b/c people can sit on there asses all day and just go in there and get free money and its not fair to everyone else......" says #3.

Where's the free money!!!??????? Yikes.

Posted by Sam October 16, 08 02:59 PM
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My idea? When your name is God you can tell me or any other human being (male or female) how to live their lives and what to do with their bodies. Until that day comes (or in this case, it won't) please restrain the total audacity you have in trying to play God and dictate what a human may or may not do with their body. YOU might not believe in abortion....so don't have one, but don't tell me or any other woman what we can/not do.

Posted by Ashley October 16, 08 05:38 PM
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I'm tired of hearing about how women should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies. When I was pregnant I knew that was my child's body inside mine, it was not my body. I knew I was the mother, therefore I had a responsibility for the well being of my child. I made the choice to have sex. Period. Anything else is just wrong. Abortion is homicide. Period. I don't care how inconvenient it was, I had no excuse to kill my unborn children.
As far as a health exception for partial birth abortion, there isextensive medical testimony indicating that a partial-birth abortion is never medically necessary, The health exception is a farce.

Posted by Mary October 16, 08 06:42 PM
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Someone needs to tell McCain "pro-choice" does NOT mean "pro-abortion". He is throwing around the term "pro-abortion" too losely and obviously cannot see there is an important and distinctive difference between the two.

Posted by Amy October 17, 08 10:22 AM
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"there isextensive medical testimony indicating that a partial-birth abortion is never medically necessary"

Wow. That's a hell of a whopper.

Would you care to cite one - ONE - "medical testimony indicating that a partial-birth abortion is NEVER medically necessary"? (Emphasis added.)

Sad to see that just because you weren't poor, desperate, the victim or rape or incest, you're very pleased to turn your back on those of your sisters who are.

Posted by S. Cooper October 17, 08 11:17 AM
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Why do republicans claim to be anti government but want the government in the one place is should definitely not be in (My body/My doctor's office)?

The conservatives want less government except where they want lots of government, and it is ridiculous. " Don't govern the big Corporations, they can take care of themselves!" Obviously that idea is flawed. "Govern women's wombs, as they are too stupid to make their own decisions"

It is sickening, and I am sick of perfect strangers sticking their heads into private doctor's offices around the nation.

My favorite quote thus far from a conservative regarding Palin's daughter, "How dare you stick your head into the life of a 17 year old girl!" EXACTLY!

Posted by Juniper October 17, 08 11:34 AM
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"there isextensive medical testimony indicating that a partial-birth abortion is never medically necessary"

"I can see a hospital from my house," said Mary.

Posted by Sam October 17, 08 01:55 PM
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Response to Mary: I too had three beautiful children.........and while all were not planned I made a choice to carrry, nurture and raise them. I would never, ever try to force someone to carry and unwanted pregnancy to term. You made your choice..........and even if you don't agree.........it was your CHOICE! It is arrogant to think that you know what has happened in the lives of millions of women......and that it is your place to judge them. You have absolutely no idea of what you speak. You made the right decision for yourself, but have absolutely no right to make it for someone else. Only God can judge us!.......Not you!

Posted by Elaine October 18, 08 05:37 PM
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I can't believe any woman would want to vote for McCain after what he said in the debate. How rude!

Posted by Katarina October 18, 08 07:28 PM
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As a woman, I want the all freedoms of choice protected! I don't want ANYONE telling me what to do with my own body; I don't want ANYONE to interfere with my reproductive health; I don't want ANYONE interfering with my medical decisions; and I don't want ANYONE playing God with MY life. That's why I am pro-choice... for ALL of the unborn to choose to do whatever they want to do with THEIR bodies some day. And please, don't accuse me of not understanding, or having empathy for, the plight of impoverished women. Do we give the same understanding and empathy of a woman who murders her baby after it's born for the same reasons many of you give for abortion? What is that woman's "choice?"

Posted by Nicole October 19, 08 07:01 PM
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Pro-Choice IS pro-ABORTION! If you are saying "I don't like it, but someone else may do as they choose", you are permitting them to commit abortion! The law is black and white. You're "for" or you're "against". Think of the worst crime possible that could be committed, in your mind. Now, imagine saying, "I wouldn't personally murder someone, but it's ok if other people do.". And you may be right, it may be your body, but THE BABY HAS A RIGHT TO DO WITH THEIR BODY WHAT THEY CHOOSE! SINCE THEY CAN'T CHOOSE, WE MUST CHOOSE FOR THEM, AND GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO LIFE! Just because they are innately small, doesn't mean they're any less of a person!
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Posted by For life, no matter what! October 19, 08 09:33 PM
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Many of you say that GOD is the only one to judge. You are all correct. He has already given us our instructions. Thou shall not kill., 6th commandment/ Deuteronomy 5:17 (New Living Translation). Murder is the unlawful killing of another human. Murder is premeditated, planned or unjustified killing. As for choices, you should be able to make any choice your heart desires when it only affects you. You have the choice to cut your hair, change your clothes, change your occupation, even harm your body if it is affecting no other. If your in need of an abortion, there are then two humans involved. The choice no longer affects you alone. I have never understood why it is so hard for so many people to understand. It troubles me that so many people cry that they want their choice but when given the opportunity they make poor choices. What good was it for you to have the choice then? Regardless who is elected President, you will be judged on your choices. Not by the government, your family or friends. They should be the least of your worries. Make sure your choice it worth it.

Posted by Amy L October 19, 08 11:28 PM
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Everyone could debate about this all they want to... but in the end, your politicians, your public figures starving for votes; they have no say. It all comes down to the courts and the supreme court. Use your sense, people... Vote for your politician based on their credibility and sensibilty... Also how dependable is either candidate?
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Posted by Jessica October 21, 08 08:42 AM
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how is it that we can protect the forests and wildlife but not protect human beings? so a baby may be unexpected... why not give it up for adoption? there are hundreds of couples who would love a new baby

Posted by nurse22 October 21, 08 08:47 AM
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I find it very ironic how we do all this arguing about pro choice, yet we are trying to tell ppl not to vote for McCain because of what he said and the way he demeans women (in my opinion)... I am a firm Obama supporter but you smart people who want to vote for McCain you can do that... but the fact still remains that he doesnt care if you want to abort your baby in a safe manner ..... go to a back alley asfar as he is concerned... but we as a people shouldnt sit here and try to tell people that they should vote Obama, just give them the facts and let them make thier own choice... This cite is "pro-choice" right?? well make your choice wisely... for my sake because i am only 16 and cant vote so dont screw me over becasue you "grown people" wont look at the facts...

Posted by Baby October 21, 08 09:32 AM
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I am SO sick of people dragging religion into this matter. WHY SHOULD IT MATTER WHAT YOUR GOD SAYS IS WRONG? IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ME. Why should it matter to us Non-Christians? I don't follow your beliefs - So shut up and let me live, and make my choices how I wish. It's simple. Look at it like this: IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN ABORTION, THEN DON'T GET ONE. IT'S SIMPLE.

Posted by Tiffany October 21, 08 09:36 AM
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Tiffany my GOD is your GOD. I hope and pray that one day you will allow GOD into your heart. You ask why it matters what "my GOD" says and that it doesn't apply to you. I know how great he is and I want you to have all the blessings of him as well. It matters to us Christians that Non-Christians here the word of GOD. We do know the consequences and I pray that you become saved. Please visit... www.threeminutestory.com

Posted by Amy L October 22, 08 10:08 PM
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When does life begins

Some say that abortion is a Supreme Court issue, and they are right to a point. Up to two of the Supreme Court Judges are going to retire in the next presidential term, and then next President of the United States will get to choose who will be the next Supreme Court Judge. Then next Judge will ether reverse Roe V Wade or confirm it!

My stance on “When does life begins” is not necessary based on my Christian beliefs. However the Bible dose clearly tell us that life begins at Conception, but there are many people out their that don’t believe in the bible, or believe that the bible is out dated. My augment for life is simple. Life begins at the beginning, and not in the middle, nor after the baby takes his/her first breath, but in the beginning. Just like when pour your self Kool-Ade. Where did it come from? It just did not become Kool-Ade when it was pored in to your glass. The ingredients had to be put together, and once it was put together it was Kool-Ade before it was in your glass. Just like when life begins. The ingredients alone do not make it life, but once they come together. That is when the magic happens. As soon as the sperm fertilizes the egg there is a chemical reaction that tells the mothers body that a baby has been conceived. So why do we have this debate. The body knows its life. So why don’t people understand this? Why do they look at the facts, and ignore them?


Why would we allow the indiscriminate murder of a baby before they had a chance to take their first breath? To me this is a bigger issue then slavery. At that time African American was not consider to be 100% human. Just because of the color of their skin. Now it’s the right for life. Who will speak for the ones who cannot speak? Who will be their champion? Who will defend their right to live? Who will stand up and call it for what it is? Murder. Why would we allow the execution of innocent life? Yes some say that their should be a exception for Rape and Incest. But we don’t execute the son for the father’s sin. So why should we put an unborn child death? The 1.2 million unborn children that are aborted, breaks my hart. Not just because innocent life was lost, but also for the mother that should have been. My hart ache for them as well. I have not met any one who had not suffered some kind of negative mental affect from having an abortion. There are other alternatives to abortions. And we need to let these women know about them be before they do something that they will regret. If the chide is unwanted, they could be adopted. I know the adoption process in this country is expensive, and that would be another huge problem that needs to be addressed. And their are some origination that are trying to make adoption free. This will go a long way to help reduce or eliminate abortion.

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