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Biden says McCain taking 'low road'

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor October 8, 2008 11:37 AM

Joe Biden was all about sports metaphors today, bragging to voters that Barack Obama has won the first two presidential debates and that he bested Republican rival Sarah Palin in their only face-off last week.

"If this were a best of five series, it'd be over," Biden said in Tampa, Fla.

While McCain during the town hall in Nashville went for a second 90-minute debate without mentioning the middle class, Obama again showed his calm command of what the country needs, Biden said.

That's what voters want, he said, "not an angry man lurching from one position to another" or "unbecoming personal attacks" on Obama.

"You didn't hear one single average person ask about that," Biden said.

He said that McCain's campaign is raising ugly fears with the veiled question of who the real Obama is. Palin, in particular, is raising "outrageous inferences" about Obama.

"This is beyond disappointing," Biden said. "This is wrong."

Biden urged voters not to be distracted by the attacks, saying that McCain is taking the "low road" because he's part and parcel of President Bush's failed policies.

When you vote with Bush 95 percent of the time, it's not surprising that nearly all of McCain's ads are negative, Biden said.

Reeling off a one liner, he declared, "You can't be a maverick if all you've ever been is a sidekick."

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He have an interesting psychological dynamic happening in the electorate and it's apparent in some of the posts here and what is going on in Republican Campaign events. 8 years of tripartite Republican rule and this nation and world are obviously falling apart. It's is so blatently apparent to everyone. Most people in the country have realized that the emperor has no clothes and are fleeing to the counterpoint in droves. However, those folks that have owned a viewpoint of being Republican as part of their personal identity...are getting angry and desperate. They are in an identity crisis. Undeniably people don't want to be wrong, especially if that error is held deeply in their faith and belief system. They want the emperor to be clothed even if he is not.

So instead of admitting...even personally to themselves...that they might have been mislead by the GOP over so many years, they build up a dire amount of anger and angst and attack those that differ. Like cornered Mountain Lions...all will pay. The simple fact is that Obama only has a differing VIEWPOINT on what to do in our world crisis. That's it, nothing else. He's NOT the devil, he's NOT a terrorist, he's NOT going to destroy the world, he's NOT going to tax you into poverty, and when he is elected the world WILL keep turning and the rapture WON'T come.

People need to not vindicate their utter existence simply by the views they hold. Many times views can be wrong. It's OK to have a differing opinion on how to do something...it really is. Voice your opinion...listen to other opinions...change your mind when the facts outweigh the rhetoric...but don't stake your entire self-worth on an ideal.

Fostering this ridiculous belief of righteous infallibility is the greatest mistake the GOP has made over the last 20+ years. It's exactly how the Nazi's persuaded regular folk to exterminate a race. It's exactly how the Islamic Extremists foster the hatred and fuel thier terrorist agenda. Do American's with our great history really want to go down this path?

Posted by SWMissouri October 8, 08 12:22 PM
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OMG... "You can't be a Maverick if all you've ever been is a sidekick?" THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Posted by tropunlim October 8, 08 12:24 PM
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The "That One" comment sounded just like my grandpa, who can't tell me and my brothers from each other. A matter of fact, John McCain looked like my grandpa walking around that stage like he was a resident in the same retirement home.

Posted by undecidedvoter October 8, 08 12:41 PM
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So it's perfectly acceptable for Obama's party to raise "outrageous inferences" about Sarah Palin - the "unbecoming personal attacks" which she has had to deal with over the past several weeks in a frenzied attempt to discredit her, regardless of whether they were true or not.
However, she's not allowed to say anything about Obama? Sounds like a double standard to me. If Sarah Palin had ever been in the same room with Ayers, the media would crucify her in a second!
Obama is the darling of the media, who can do no wrong.
You people think it's bad under Bush? You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until Obama turns us into a Socialist country. Hope you don't mind waiting in line to buy bread.

Posted by Rick October 8, 08 12:41 PM
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Biden is 100% right. This series is over. The majority of us know who must be the next President of this great nation. Our next President should be "that one" who is more accurate in his comments, "that one" who understands and thinks about the middle class, "that one" who remains calm in a time of crisis, "that one" who has a vision for a change that "We the People" desperate need. We don't need an angry, tired , uncourteous and arrogant old man who is prompt to attack others. Yes, it's over. We don't need and don't want more of the same failed policies, what we need is a change in leadership.

Posted by Eloy Ruvalcaba October 8, 08 01:24 PM
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"In Florida Monday, Palin's campaign turned to its last hope of winning -- frightening people about Democratic nominee Barack Obama. She told an enthusiastic audience that Obama "is different from us," which turned the campaign to what Republicans have been doing for the last forty years."

Frightening white people.

At least one spectator in the audience responded to Palin's remarks about the senator from Illinois with, "Kill him!"

Do you even need to ask if Palin told the man his response wasn't appropriate?

At least she didn't wink.

This campaign is getting scary.

Posted by Donna Hughes October 8, 08 02:07 PM
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It's great hearing Senator Biden again. He's always a gentleman.

Mrs. Palin's low road is evoking people's deep demons and she should back off from that tactic. She is a leading figure and her effect is dramatic and could invite worse behavior by her fans. Rightousness, God, fear, hate and "other" are a wicked witches brew. This is different than the type of criticism that Mrs. Palin received from the internet blogs or tabloid media. The latter were not government leaders on the stage and pulpit.

Posted by lucy2008 October 8, 08 02:25 PM
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Palin should watch what she says because everyone has skeletons in their closet that don't need to be dragged out.

Palin is accusing Obama of being un-American because of his associations with Ayers, someone who turned himself into the federal authorities and has built a new life for himself (which is part of the beauty of being an American). What I consider un-American is Todd Palin's membership in a political party that stands for secession from the United States - and I don't think anyone would argue that she didn't know about that side of her husband.

McCain has a long, storied career in the Senate, which has included working beside and with other Senators with dirty pasts (Strom Thurmond, anyone?). Should he be slammed for "guilt by association"? Of course not.

Palin wants to bring Rev. Wright back into the discussion, though McCain has said it is off-limits. What she doesn't want to talk about is the Jews for Jesus representatives who spoke at her church railing against the very "I love Israel" story she's spinning now. How about we just leave well enough alone?

There is a certain responsibility that political candidates have to keep the discussion on the issues and not allow such blatantly incendiary remarks such as "Kill him!" to pass without comment. If you want to blame Obama for his silence with his church, then Palin deserves as much censure for standing at a podium and remaining silent when someone makes that kind of comment. We need leaders who embrace the American people - all of them, not just the ones they are forced to "tolerate."

The hatred that the McCain camp is spewing is embarrassing and I hope that McCain himself will be able to stand up and look in the mirror and feel proud of the campaign he ran, whether it's from his seat in the Senate or the Oval Office.

Posted by Ariel October 8, 08 02:40 PM
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Sen. Biden,

First, my sincere condolences to the Biden and Jacobs families in the loss of Jill's mother. Your presence on the trail was sorely missed. Welcome back.

Next, your job now is to do what you do best, and that is TALK.

Your performance as Chair of many SFRC and Judiciary hearings, addressing witnesses with direct, hard-core inquiries, many a time being chastized for being too harsh in your questioning - that is exactly what we need you to do out on trail. Tell the people matter-of-factly how despicable it is for the McCain/Palin campaign to be allowed to espouse enuendos to energize their base, and lure any independents. This is more than a slippery-slope, in my humble opinion.

I vividly remember the violence that erupted post-Rodney King, or the more recent violence that befell many American citizens post-9/11, who were subject to it merely because of their physical appearance being of foreign descent.

We live in a society that is violent. To allow Governor Palin to incite the public with such rhetoric - that is just completely unacceptable to me. If a teacher were to make such an alarming statement in his/her classroom, he/she would be suspended and would be all over the news for teaching such slander.

So why is it that we will allow such things to be said by persons we are being asked to elect to represent us at home as well as abroad? Aren't these people supposed to be persons of morale integrity, who also must abide by the laws that we ordinary citizens are supposed to respect?

How can you honestly expect me to respect, much less trust this same person who knows darn good and well that Barack Obama is NOT a terrorist. If that were truly the case, how could the other 535 members of Congress and the remaining 99 senators, much less any one in the FBI, the CIA, or the DOJ allow this man to remain in our government, much less our country?

Tell 'em Joe. Show 'em why Barack chose you. You don't have any tolerance for such tactics, nor would you stoop to such a level. Then continue to tell 'em with specific detail what it is you and Barack will do.

Posted by Mickey October 8, 08 03:46 PM
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Karl Rove, the all time slime ball of politics, got alot of incompetent people elected using these techniques. He was so bad Bush I actally fired him because Bush I had more civility than Bush II. I gues Karl is out of retirement and helping Sarah strut her stuff.
This ditz is one heatbeak away from being president and this is the "inegrity" we are to expect? She would be a caribou in head lights if anywhere near either office.

Posted by sd-mouth October 8, 08 03:56 PM
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Good to have you back, Joe. Without you it’s been nothing but a steady stream of pit bull****.

Posted by JJ October 8, 08 04:17 PM
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Thank goodness for Joe Biden! His expertise and compassion are such a refreshing contrast to Sarah Palin, who can do nothing but spread lies and fear. Biden can be relaxed and confident because he actually knows what he's talking about, instead of desperately trying to shuffle index cards and remember talking points. He will be a great vice president.

Posted by wes207 October 8, 08 04:48 PM
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To Rick, # 4 - come on, man. When has Biden or Obama mentioned Sara Palin's membership in the Alaska Independence Party? Or her being blessed by a freakin' witchhunter? Hell, they haven't even touched on her awful record as a Mayor - taking a solvent town and leaving it $20 million in debt.

Meanwhile, Palin is herself directly pushing this ridiculous guilt-by-association nonsense about Obama and Ayers because they happened to be on the same charity board - along with numerous Republicans, I might add, including a former ambassador who served under Reagan.

And as for the business-friendly Obama turning us into a socialist country - how is tthat even logically possible, from his own record in the Senate?

I know it's painful to lose - but your candidate and his party have done themselves in, by being obvious disasters. If their way and the conservative way were actually better, than the country would be better off now than it was under Clinton - and the GOP would be a permanent majority. Instead of being what they are now - dancers on the edge of a grave.

Posted by jim October 8, 08 08:25 PM
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I'm voting for Obama, but let's keep it fair. McCain has been (prior to his deal with Bush to pull out of the 2000 presidential race in return for being assured the candidacy in 2008) more than a sidekick.

Posted by Brook Wiers October 8, 08 10:13 PM
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We'll take McCains experience, dedication, patriotism, decades of honorable service, his staying power, courage, stamina and optimistic outlook for the future of this country over Obama's cult-like near-religious fearmongering, cowardly race baiting and class warfare campaign. He's shown us no changes thus far, relying on the decades-old, dogeared playbook of 'how to get elected as a Democrat

Posted by k October 8, 08 11:10 PM
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To all the comrades voting for Obama. You may need to follow your communist MESSIAH to another land. We are the home of the brave and land of the free. We are not giving our country to an unknown who has a seriously socialist agenda and is directly tied to Ayers, much more than being reported even by McCain. MCCAIN/PALIN is the only choice.

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