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Campaign getting personal and nasty

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor October 10, 2008 09:53 AM


As the stock market plunges, the presidential campaign today will be focused, at least in part, on two names that have nothing to do with the economic crisis -- William Ayers and Walter Monegan.

Ayers is the former radical who led a group that bombed government buildings during the early 1970s, and two decades later served on two nonprofit boards with Democrat Barack Obama and hosted an event early in Obama's political career.

Today, Republican John McCain's campaign launched perhaps its toughest TV ad yet, accusing Obama of blind ambition in connection with Ayers. "When convenient, he worked with terrorist Bill Ayers," the announcer says. "When discovered, he lied."

The ad pivots to accuse Obama of blind ambition and bad judgment as well in the housing crisis.

McCain's campaign also jumped on a comment that Obama made to a Philadelphia radio host Thursday in which he said by the time he crossed paths with Ayers, he "assumed he had been rehabilitated."

"Barack Obama implausibly claims that he was unaware of William Ayers' radical and violent past when the two first met, in Ayers' home, at a party thrown in Obama's honor, and at which Ayers intended to introduce Obama to Chicago's left-wing political elite," spokesman Tucker Bounds said. "When Obama found out his new friend was an unrepentant terrorist, rather than sever his ties to a man associated with attacks on the US Capitol and the Pentagon, Obama says he just 'assumed [Ayers] had been rehabilitated.' Does Barack Obama continue to believe William Ayers has been ‘rehabilitated’? Or has Barack Obama changed his mind now that William Ayers is a liability, rather than an asset, to his political ambition?”

Monegan is the former state public safety commissioner in Alaska, who was fired last year by Governor Sarah Palin, now the Republican vice presidential nominee.

This afternoon, the Associated Press reports, Alaska legislators are to release a state ethics investigation of whether Palin abused her authority and fired Monegan after she and her husband pressured him in a family dispute. Monegan he was dismissed when he refused to fire Mike Wooten, a state trooper involved in a nasty divorce and custody dispute with Palin's sister.

The legislative committee could recommend that the case be closed, be further investigated, or referred to criminal investigators.

McCain's presidential campaign issued its own report Thursday night, asserting that the firing was over a legitimate policy dispute, the Associated Press reports. "The following document will prove Walt Monegan's dismissal was a result of his insubordination and budgetary clashes with Governor Palin and her administration," campaign officials wrote. "Trooper Wooten is a separate issue."

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Wright, Ayers, Alinsky, Rezko and Raines are all fair game. They all reveal both the man's character and his judgement. Since we have no track record from Obama other than his left-side-of-the-party 143 working days in the US senate, what else should voters use to figure out who he really is?

Posted by George October 10, 08 11:10 AM
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I don't think its so much nasty then it is the truth. Obama buddies with a domestic terrorist. An extreme leftist who is afraid to show his own birth certificate. A socialist who is involved with political killings in Kenya. This is presidential material? I guess it could be if you lived in Venezuela. Do you want to live in a socialist fascist state controlled by a dictator whose political career began in the living room of a domestic terrorist?

Posted by Campbell October 10, 08 11:16 AM
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Its obvious that McCain & Co. have few if anything to offer the voters except needless lies, misquotes, and ageless crap that has no value. He should pack his bag's and fly off to one of his wife's 12 houses.

Posted by john hughes October 10, 08 11:20 AM
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This whole campaign started getting personal and nasty in the Democratic primaries. It's not something new. Hillary Clinton correctly pointed out Obama's associations with William Ayers and Rev. Wright and questioned his character & judgment.

The slime got worse when the Democratic surrogates went after Gov Palin's pregnant daughter, her Downs Syndrome child (who's the parent?), Palin's alleged inability to juggle a job and motherhood (way to forego your charter NOW), derision over her executive experience in state and local government, etc. etc.

Look in the mirror all you Democrats who now cry foul when your chosen one is now under the microscope by the Republicans, as he should be. The slime is you!!

Posted by Slime on you October 10, 08 12:00 PM
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McCain is digging himself a grave in the cesspool dug by McCarthy and by Hitler before him, the cesspool of lies and smears calling out the very worst in people in the name of pseudo-patriotism. He brought in Palin, who saddens America with her willingness to do anything to get ahead without earning it, now McCain is saddening America with the tarnishing of the only thing he truly had, his reputation for heroism. He is truly of the past. I am so sad that America is being smeared and slimed by these barbarians..

Posted by Van Brock October 10, 08 12:05 PM
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Now that it is clear that McCain is the likely loser, he has reverted to gutter
accusations against Obama. Such actions only further diminish McCain's
reputation.

Posted by Melvin I. Shoul October 10, 08 12:05 PM
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Not surprising the Democrats would go after a Downs Syndrome child. They would rather abort a baby who is not "perfect" (i.e. multiracial or blue-eyed blond-haired). They would not want to be burdened with taking care of someone with special needs. They would be afraid of being talked about by their ritzy neighbors for having a special needs child.

Posted by I choose life October 10, 08 12:05 PM
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McCain is digging himself a grave in the cesspool dug by McCarthy and by Hitler before him, the cesspool of lies and smears calling out the very worst in people in the name of pseudo-patriotism. He brought in Palin, who saddens America with her willingness to do anything to get ahead without earning it, now McCain is saddening America with the tarnishing of the only thing he truly had, his reputation for heroism. He is truly of the past. I am so sad that America is being smeared and slimed by these barbarians..

Posted by Van Brock October 10, 08 12:06 PM
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Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by PulSamsara October 10, 08 12:07 PM
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who in the hell is gonna vote for this f------ mad man along with that f------ lunatic ignorant female. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON ALL OF US IF MCINSANE GETS IN.

Posted by mr.paul October 10, 08 12:08 PM
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Look at McCain's character, oh he doesn't have one.
He did not vote for the GI Bill for our soldiers.
He like Bush could care less about or Veterans.
He did not vote for more funding for the troops.
Yes, he is just a great man.
Look deeper into the background of this habitual liar.
His wife is no good either.
Palin is a loser. These three hanging around each other
are just a disgrace to this nation.
Go ahead with your hatred and teach young people this is how
it is done. McCain like Bush is no Man, and Cindy, and Plain are
no Women.
Go and spill your hatred somewhere else.

Get a life people Obama is not a terrorist.
Oh, and I suppose your precious Bush is so innocent,
He has murdered innocent, men , women, children,
our soldiers for a Lie, oh yea, and one more thing his family pals
around with Bin Laden's family.
Oh such wonderful human beings.
Bush has killed, maimed, so many people, and McCain is
just as guilty as Bush, Sick, Sick people.
Vote for them and reap what you sow.
No Class, Liars, Cheaters, Etc, Etc, Etc.
Obama all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Sammy October 10, 08 12:09 PM
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McCain and Palin continue to spout hatred and anger since they have nothing better to offer. Obama is more Presidential and honorable anyday than these characters. Neither of two have the intellect or honesty to run for this office. All McCain can offer as excuse is "Liberal Agenda" for being so far back in polls. This is a desperate attempt to smear Obama.

Posted by Vic02 October 10, 08 12:12 PM
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We are all adults now what should we care about our falling economy or nonsense american people please make the call.

Posted by miller October 10, 08 12:13 PM
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We are all adults now what should we care about our falling economy or nonsense american people please make the call.

Posted by miller October 10, 08 12:14 PM
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john hughes. John Mccain is a man of honor. He was tortured and beaten so you could have the freedom to your opinion and to voice it. If you want to vote for Obama you may be chancing your freedom. Give Obama the power and watch America's liberties be stripped away. We know John McCain's history it is well documented. Obama's history is questionable to say the least.

Posted by anna October 10, 08 12:14 PM
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Unlike John McCain, I am not living in the '60s. I don't much care what Ayers did some 40 years ago, when I was also 8. Obama is not Ayers, and is not responsible for Ayers or his actions. This is 2008, not 1968, and if Ayers is all John McCain can talk about, he is truly desperate.

I do care what John McCain has been doing in Congress for the last 26 years, though - and I see nothing either recently, or in his past, that leads me to support him. His policies have benefited his ultra-rich buddies, not people like me. I see no difference between him and GWBush.

Finally, any person who would kiss GWBush after Bush slimed his family in North Carolina during the 2000 elections is a person without honor. There is nothing left of the John McCain I once at least respected - he has sold his soul just to try to "win." I would not want to be him, looking in the mirror, the day after he loses. He has no vision, no plan, no great goals to offer America - all he has left is a bucket full of slime. I don't want any.

Posted by slavicdiva October 10, 08 12:15 PM
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Readers should know:
1. George and Campbell above are the same person.
2. they are students who work on McCain's campaign
3. they are part of a team that canvasses online media to cut-and-paste their vitriolic and misleading lies.

What happened to the McCain we once knew? To the republican party? when was it highjacked by this element? no wonder there is a brain drain bleeding away from the GOP, leaving in its wake racists, secessionists, and the outright fearful who look for anyone but themselves to point to the failures in their 'joe-six-pack' lives.

Posted by Isen Hower October 10, 08 12:16 PM
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The association with Ayres is laughably lose and an obvious sign of desperation in the McCain campaign. However, if associations are legitimate, how come Palin’s long time DIRECT association with the separatist AIP is not equally in focus?

Posted by Marcpatriot October 10, 08 12:16 PM
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This Ayers concern is just a smokescreen. It's an attempt to get people to take their eyes off what really matters. The prediction that GW Bush's Presidency would be the worse in American History is coming true. John McCain does NOT have an ace up his sleeve, that he can pull out and reverse this downward economic spiral, the misguided Iraq war, the continued erosion of our respect in the world, the fact that after 7 years, GW Bush and all the kings men have NOT captured bin Laden.

Get, set, match Obama-Biden. 341-197, or better. If you want to be supporting a winner, do some research. Examine both of these teams. Obama has nothing to hide and has been fully vetted. If Ayers was so bad, why is he a distinquished Professor? Why was he even on the Annenberg board in the first place?

Red herrings and fluff = no substance. The reason McCain-Palin is doing poorly in the polls? Because if these are the BEST Republicans can offer to the populace, they just aren't good enough. The country is in a world of hurtin' after 8 years of Bush II and we need some brains in the White House! I voted for Reagan, once. I voted for Bush I, too. But after 2000, never again will I vote Republican at the top of the ticket. Too many corrupt or even crooked politicians in that gang. TIme for REAL Change. Obama-Biden, 341-197, at a minimum!

Posted by Andrew - Des Moines October 10, 08 12:17 PM
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Politics in Illinois is a rough, cut throat business. Chicago in particular was badly hurt in 1968 by the radicals who are supposedly Obama's friends. If that friendship existed it would have surfaced in every Illinois election in which Obama has run. It has not been an issue because it's not true.

Posted by Mike October 10, 08 12:20 PM
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People should first check the facts before embracing the McCain assault--Obama is no different from most of the Chicago establishment in having been acquainted with Ayers, and the issue had already been raised by the Clinton campaign. As for an Obama role in the financial crisis, once again, check the actual record. But what should concern us all is the tenor of Palin's rallies, McCain's unleashing some of the worst elements in US poltics in a time of genuine crisis, and the currency on the right of such assertions as the one about involvement in "political killings in Kenya," and so on. Has no one a clue as to what sorts of movements in the past have come to power with this kind of rhetoric and what they have done? I write from Germany, which has experience of such stuff. It is in a word fascism.

Posted by William H. Leckie, Jr. October 10, 08 12:20 PM
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I want to know about my future in the workplace, my health benefits, my taxes, not about Ayers and company. Come on people, let's stick with the issues and not get blindsided by anything else.

Posted by Gerard October 10, 08 12:21 PM
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Am I supposed to vote for four more years of Republican relentless dismantle of the middle class because of who Obama hung out with? Four years ago we re-elected a moron because of Republican deceptive accusations about Kerry's patriotism - a war hero - The idiot we elected skipped the draft altogether. Shouldn't we allow logic to reign for once and elect a statesman that would like to do good for America and Americans? should we consider these Republican- backed corporate parasites that got us into this mess - good American patriots?

Posted by Roy Di Vittorio October 10, 08 12:22 PM
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John "Keating 5" McSame has nothing constructive or of value to talk about so it is Republican narcissistic politics as usual. The Republicans are getting beat and getting beat badly and are on their way out after destroying this country. Good riddance to all Republicans.

Posted by Rob October 10, 08 12:22 PM
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McCain = Republican Economics + Bush + Nasty Persona + Ignorant&racist supporters = LOSER
What a pathetic person McCain turns out to be.... I pity him

Posted by thegwoe October 10, 08 12:22 PM
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All the personal attacks do nothing but divide the country. If he truly believes in "Country First," then McCain needs to put an end to the personal attacks. I am voting for the candidate that offers me, a middle-class American struggling to make end meet, the best solution. There one candidate stuck in desperate attacks, and one who is offering solutions. I am voting for Obama, and solutions, and I am a Republican.

Posted by Bill Anderson October 10, 08 12:23 PM
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Tragic to see McCain sink to this level. Tragic to that so many are so easily manipulated by the smears.

Worked with an unrepentant terrorist? That has been disproven many times. Anyone involved in Education or public service in Chicago has worked with Ayers. Sever his ties? What ties? Does this mean everyone in Chicago working for a non-profit education group needs to quit? The Ayers flap is old news. The Rezko flap is also disproven.

McCain has his own dirt, and so does Palin. The AIP and the Keating 5 flap, all more recent events, and both McCain and Palin entered into those situations knowing full well who they were dealing with.

Socialist? McCain is ready to spend a few more billion to buy defaulted mortgages and Bush is talking about taking ownership of banks. THAT is Socialism folks.

Haven't we all taken enough of a beating from the poor judgement and dirty politics of the radical right? How long do you have to be hit over the head before you wise up and figure out who is hitting you?

Posted by Joan October 10, 08 12:24 PM
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Have you seen a single McCain ad where he describes what he will do for you? Here, all we get is ads attacking Obama. Should Obama make an ad about how McCain cheated and left his first wife after she was disfigured in a car wreck or about Cindy McCain's addiction to drugs? No don't say that he's a true American hero!

Nope let's vote for a guy that can take my 401K all the way down to zero. MCCANT!

Posted by forgotten October 10, 08 12:25 PM
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All is fair game

- John McCain's GAMBLING ADDICTION (CRAPS TABLES) shows a major character flaw. It should be made public for the people to determine if he has the temperament to be President of the United States

- Sarah Palin's close and long association with the SECESSIONIST MOVEMENT of the Alaska Independence Party (AKIP) should be made public for the people to determine if she respects to the U.S. Constitution and has the temperament to be Vice-President of the United States

Posted by KJF, Dallas October 10, 08 12:26 PM
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Posted by George :Wright, Ayers, Alinsky, Rezko and Raines are all fair game. They all reveal both the man's character and his judgement. Since we have no track record from Obama other than his left-side-of-the-party 143 working days in the US senate, what else should voters use to figure out who he really is?

Thanks George, you have said what I've been wanting to say. Why do we have "fight the smears" website today which we never had in our election history. The wesite itself is implying something is not right.

Posted by gosarah1 October 10, 08 12:26 PM
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If CHRACTER is so important,
didn't McCain have an affair with Cindy while his first wife was in a wheel chair after a car accident?

Posted by Sanj October 10, 08 12:26 PM
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The McCain-Palin ticket and all of its associates (those who follow) are nothing more than mere liars and racist! These fear inducing idiots are going nowhere fast.
Barack H. Obama is going to be without a doubt our next president of this great United States of America.
The economy needs Obama, the American people need Obama and our country needs Obama.
Yes we can! Yes we will!!!

Posted by QBosket-O'Donnell October 10, 08 12:27 PM
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This stuff / these attacks are coming from one of the Keating Five?? And Ms. Troopergate, currently embroiled in legal proceedings herself? With the latest GOP-side viciousness and hate rallies, McCain is urinating on his own campfire. OK, if the gloves are off, Sen. McCain had better be willing to take it as well as dish it out. My friends, would John McCain and Sarah Palin be better off putting their best efforts--as Sens. Obama/Biden do--into convincing us that they have the best and most innovative ideas to help lead the nation into the 21st century? You betcha'!

Posted by Greg B October 10, 08 12:30 PM
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I tend towards the conservative, but do not vote the ticket, but the man.
I'm quite dissapointed in McCain. He who has nothing substantive will attack another's character. Would that McCain had something to offer, his ideas on the economic crisis, NATO getting involved in destroying Afghani poppy factories and distribution. I wish that he had imput on the here and now, but he does not. List several topics important to you or the country right now; McCain is not addressing any of them.
I don't think he can take us where we need to go.
Obama has the energy, zeal, intelligence, youth, and adaptability to be given the chance to take us on a better path.

Posted by Rick October 10, 08 12:30 PM
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It is generally taken for granted that because of his prisoner-of-war record war John McCain is an expert on natural security and foreign policy issues, and, furthermore, that his character is above reproach. But after observing his small-minded, mean-spirited delivery on the campaign trail (he’s no James Stockdale), I’m beginning to have serious doubts about him.

The man claims to know how to win wars, but how many wars has he actually won?

Would he have been admitted to the Naval Academy if both his father and grandfather hadn’t been influential alumnae? And given the fact that he graduated fifth from the bottom of his class, how much did he actually learn about the art of warfare?

He had been serving in Vietnam for only three months before his plane was shot down, and then was held prisoner for five years. So how could he have known what was taking place on the ground, where the war was being fought? What was the extent of his actual combat experience?

Those injuries to his arms and legs, where they inflicted under torture by his North Vietnamese guards, as is commonly believed, or were the injuries sustained when his plane crashed? And once his captors realized he was the son of an important admiral, a prized propaganda asset, would they have risked subjecting him to the same ordeal as an ordinary prisoner?

In his visits to foreign countries, did he confer with local community leaders, meet with ordinary citizens, study their history and learn about their customs beforehand; or was he merely escorted around by high government officials and military brass telling him what they wanted him to hear?

He touts himself as a political maverick, but isn’t a maverick, by definition, a loner, the farthest thing from a leader?

He says he knows how to fix the economy, how to create jobs, that he share the concerns of middle class Americans and small business owners; but what qualifies him to make such claims? How many jobs has he created, how many small businesses has he run? Wasn’t he born and raised in a financially secure, tax-payer funded environment—the U.S. Military—and later married into big money?

He says that voters don’t know who the real Barack Obama is. Well, at the risk of sounding unpatriotic, I’d say that it is he, John Sidney McCain, the one who is wearing the mask—and ditto for his unvetted running mate.

C. Navarro (a Ralph Nader supporter)

Posted by Carlos Navarro October 10, 08 12:31 PM
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It is generally taken for granted that because of his prisoner-of-war record war John McCain is an expert on natural security and foreign policy issues, and, furthermore, that his character is above reproach. But after observing his small-minded, mean-spirited delivery on the campaign trail (he’s no James Stockdale), I’m beginning to have serious doubts about him.

The man claims to know how to win wars, but how many wars has he actually won?

Would he have been admitted to the Naval Academy if both his father and grandfather hadn’t been influential alumnae? And given the fact that he graduated fifth from the bottom of his class, how much did he actually learn about the art of warfare?

He had been serving in Vietnam for only three months before his plane was shot down, and then was held prisoner for five years. So how could he have known what was taking place on the ground, where the war was being fought? What was the extent of his actual combat experience?

Those injuries to his arms and legs, where they inflicted under torture by his North Vietnamese guards, as is commonly believed, or were the injuries sustained when his plane crashed? And once his captors realized he was the son of an important admiral, a prized propaganda asset, would they have risked subjecting him to the same ordeal as an ordinary prisoner?

In his visits to foreign countries, did he confer with local community leaders, meet with ordinary citizens, study their history and learn about their customs beforehand; or was he merely escorted around by high government officials and military brass telling him what they wanted him to hear?

He touts himself as a political maverick, but isn’t a maverick, by definition, a loner, the farthest thing from a leader?

He says he knows how to fix the economy, how to create jobs, that he share the concerns of middle class Americans and small business owners; but what qualifies him to make such claims? How many jobs has he created, how many small businesses has he run? Wasn’t he born and raised in a financially secure, tax-payer funded environment—the U.S. Military—and later married into big money?

He says that voters don’t know who the real Barack Obama is. Well, at the risk of sounding unpatriotic, I’d say that it is he, John Sidney McCain, the one who is wearing the mask—and ditto for his unvetted running mate.

C. Navarro (a Ralph Nader supporter)

Posted by Carlos Navarro October 10, 08 12:31 PM
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McCain has reached a new low in his personal attacks that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISSUES! Instead of coming up with ideas of his own to help solve a world economic crisis, his BLIND AMBITION is causing him to use BAD JUDGEMENT and continue the Bush Administration's fear and hate mongering. ENOUGH ALREADY! McCain's contempt for the American people is obvious. He has been caught lying many times, including his statement that he would run a CLEAN campaign.

Posted by Christine October 10, 08 12:31 PM
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He again did not mention McCain's claim that he has associated with a former 1960s radical, William Ayers. When asked on a radio talk show, however, Obama said he thought Ayers, now a college professor and neighbor in Chicago, was rehabilitated.
Rehabilitated ? This happened in the 60's and in 2001 right after 9/11 Ayers said he did not feel he dad done enough. When was he supposed to have been rehabilitated ? Yet another Obama lie or excuse---take your pick.

Posted by old mo October 10, 08 12:32 PM
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Obama? Who in hell is Sarah Palin? Anointed by a witchdoctor, NOW closely associated with a radically Anti-American secessionist group, she deserves more media attention.
Not since Joe McCarthy have we seen quite this level of vitriolic nonsense in US politics.
This is clearly designed to allow racists and other haters to attach their base emotions to some issue, however idiotic.
McCain has always had a low character. Now it's out in the open.
He's lucky Obama is gentle. I'd pop him in his senile snoot.

Posted by Henst October 10, 08 12:33 PM
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This "Troopergate" the Obama camp is trying to peddle is a prepackaged Obama brand smear fabricated by four Obama lawyers crawling around in dumpsters up in Wasilla. The Obama campaign is appearing more and more desperate when it resorts to weak assertions such as this. ..Everything a Republican does has a "gate" after it. How about "Ayersgate" or "Rezkogate" those sound criminal.

Posted by Superpower October 10, 08 12:33 PM
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I watched the news showing McCain’s interview on Fox being televised on CNN, FOX, and other networks. In the interview McCain said he wanted Obama to come out with the truth about Ayers so the public can decide. Why isn’t anyone calling out McCain on his hypocrisy on TROOPERGATE? He asks for public truth from Obama, yet he sends his lawyers to Alaska to cover up TROOPERGATE to avoid public scrutiny. Why doesn’t McCain let Palin testify about her TROOPERATE connection so the American Public can decide – the same standard he wants to apply to Obama. Do you smell hypocrisy?

I don’t want to hear this excuse that TROOPERGATE is politically motivated and that the AYERS connection isn’t. Palin was in office as a government official during TROOPERGATE while Obama was eight years old when Ayers did his despicable act. You tell me which has more validity in applying a standard of judgment -- a person governing when the act was being committed or a person who was eight years old when someone else committed the act?

If judgment is what McCain is questioning about Obama, shouldn’t the American pubic question McCain’s judgment for picking a VP that may be using her powers for personal reasons? Sounds like Bush/Chaney tactic to twist the law f to protect them elves and those they surround themselves with. After all, Palin's character could be a heart beat away from the Presidency if McCain is elected. The public deserves the truth by her testifying in front of an INDEPENDENT board, not one she picks. How many middle class citizens you know that would get away with ignoring a subpoena -- hmmm, I guess if you could hire high powered lawyers to put you and your cronnies above the law, you could.

Come on, what are you afraid of McCain, the truth? McCain keeps preaching about transparency in government, but I guess that only applies to others, not himself or those he surrounds himself with.

McCain seems to wear hypocrisy as well as one of his thousand dollar suits. His campaign and campaign tactics looks more and more like the same eight years of Bush scare tactics that middle class come to despise. BUSH SCARE TACTICS MAY OF WORKED FOR THE WAR, BUT IT WON'T WORK FOR THE ECONOMY. WE SWALLOWED THE BUSH SCARE TACTIC PILL BEFORE AND THE ONLY CURE FOR THIS CANCER IS TO PUT IN OFFICE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T REFLECT BUSH POLICIES WHILE CAMPAIGNING -- WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO BELIEVES THERE IS A BETTER WAY AND THAT SURE ISN'T THE MCCAIN’S HYPOCRISY POLICY THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE ELSE, WHILE HE APPLIES DIFFERENT STANDARDS TO HIMSELF AND THE CRONIES HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH.

BRING IT ON, MCCAIN, AT THE NEXT DEBATE. I DARE YOU!

Posted by steeve October 10, 08 12:34 PM
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Deep sigh. ~inserting my $ .02 here~
I am so glad I didn't check the box on my Federal tax return to donate $3 toward presidential campaigns. My remaining $2.98 that McCain/Palin could/would have used (to talk about some real issues ) is wasted on high hate filled drama.
McCain's claim that this recent line of attack proves judgment is irony in its best form.

Posted by Cinderella October 10, 08 12:34 PM
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If you are like writer # 1 and 2 in this comment section, then I beg you to please stop watching only FAUX News and listening to rabid rightwing talk radio You are being PLAYED (again, see: Bush years)! THe hateful rhetoric being spewed at Palin/McCain rallies these days are reminicent of what went down in Israel before Rabin was assassinated. I pray for Obama and his family and I hope like hell the Secret Service are on their toes. Until Palin/McCain denounce the hatred they're whipping up in desperation, they're fully responsible if, God forbid, something awful happens.

Posted by Julie in VT October 10, 08 12:34 PM
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Up here in Canada we look with dismay at what's happening south of the border. One of the weathiest and educated soieties on this planet seems to be ruled by morons and corporate gangsters. Good luck...

Posted by et October 10, 08 12:35 PM
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If this was such a concern of McCain's, then why is he waiting until less than a month before the election to make such a big deal out of it? Answer: because he is a pathetic, desperate old man seeing his big chance to become president slip away with each new poll. He can't debate the economy because he offers no workable solutions (buying up bad mortgages is a slap in the face to anyone who saved up for a down payment and bought a house they could actually afford to buy). The only people Palin "energizes" are the ones in his own fan club - certainly not anyone with a brain and certainly not anyone who can stomach hearing "soccer mom" or "joe six pack" ad nauseum.

Posted by Carlton October 10, 08 12:37 PM
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My father (an elected Republican First Selectman in CT that worked with Congressmen Bobby Steel, Stew MeKinney and Senator Lowel Weiker in the CT legislature) always said, "the politics of hate and lies cannot be tolorated in the United States of America." Never before have we seen such a display of smear tactics than we have from John McCain and Sara Palin. Rather than give us their best ideas and people, John McCain gave us Sara Palin as his successor when he had many savvy, informed and smart Republican women to choose from. Shame on you Mr McCain, American's deserve your best and you give us your worst. You will be judged by your choices 'My Friends". Mr Obama has my vote.

Posted by Philip October 10, 08 12:38 PM
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You have GOT to be kidding! John McCain was tortured so I could have freedom? All this "obamessiah" bs, yet I see people spout that off EVERYWHERE! "McCain was tortured for your freedom" is FAR more Jesus like than people being moved and inspired by a great man. Do you even KNOW what Vietnam was about??? It was NO revolutionary war. His hotshot, reckless move that got himself captured and his subsequent torture did NOT award me freedom nor was it in the name of freedom. It may have been horrific and inhumane, but it does not have anything to do with giving us rights, nor does it make him presidential.

Posted by JBGoode October 10, 08 12:45 PM
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Shamelessly, McCain and Palin exhibit their racism and xenophobia when they ask, "Who is Barack Obama?" "What do we really know about him?"

In reality, these aren't questions at all, but masked statements: "Someone who’s black (and therefore ‘dangerous’) can’t be qualified to be president." “Someone with the middle name of Hussein (who therefore must be supportive of terrorism) is un-American and can’t be trusted to be the president.”

Voters must be alert to understand the subliminal message behind McCain and Palin's ugly rhetoric. Let's be vigilant, so that we won't be susceptible to being misled by it.@gmail.com

Posted by Mike, Philadelphia October 10, 08 12:45 PM
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Talk about throwing stones from inside a glass house... They both sat on the board of Chicago Annenberg Challenge; Mrs. Annenberg had endorsed McCain and is a big supporter of his. Would he question her judgment, too? And did Sarah Palin go pallin' around with her husband, an Alaska Independence Party member, speaking multiple times for AIP, whose founder has utmost hatred for American government? You betcha she did. Oh wait, she's still pallin' around with her husband...

Posted by Ayana October 10, 08 12:51 PM
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McCain's guilt by association attacks are cleary remindful of Senator Joseph
McCarthy's vile actions. The only difference is that McCarthy honed in on those
he suspected of socialist or communist associations whereas McCain/Palin
are feverishly seeking out other associations that somehow, they hope, will point to a lack of patriotism or moral laxity. Such a strategy has no place in a democracy as finally was proven in the Senate's ultimate censure of McCarthy. Tragically, it is this nastiness that will be part of the McCain/Palin legacy.

Posted by Donald Shult October 10, 08 12:51 PM
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Is this for real? This old man definitely has lost his marble, having watched his rate plunging for the last week. John McCain, you maybe brain dead as a result of POW experience (even though I have this nagging suspicion that you weren't that bright from Day One) and your sidekick pitbull with lipstick is airheaded who can just about cite what's been written for her by other people, though without even knowing the meanings, but the rest of the world(minus your dumb red-neck followers) aren't that stupid.

Posted by hotlawyer October 10, 08 12:52 PM
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It is well past time that McCain quits his negative campaigning. He's already lost the election. He should be trying to bring the country together in this time of catastrophic crisis and go out on aa positive note.

Not like a bitter old man...

Posted by david wayne osedach October 10, 08 12:54 PM
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Sorry, I forgot that my senior has said that I didn't know Ayers' past when I met him.

I thought he is just a guy who happened to live in the neighbourhood with me, and I was wrongly ended up in his bedroom when I wanted to get things started.

Posted by H Obama October 10, 08 12:58 PM
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All Aboard....... The Straight Sleaze Express is coming to a Trailer Park near you !

Posted by MichMan October 10, 08 01:04 PM
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Hi, Everyone,

I will be the first one in US history to be elected as President with some dark history connectiing with terrorist.

Send John McCain to Vietnam again...

Cheers,

Posted by B H O October 10, 08 01:14 PM
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Obama is not telling the truth!

I will never vote for a person who has a connection with terrorist as our president.

Posted by Judy Miles October 10, 08 01:20 PM
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Talk about ambition putting our troops in harms way! How about McCain insisting that there are neighborhoods in Iraq where Joe Schmoe can walk around safely? His ambition is dependent on pushing the surge down our throats, and keeping troops in Iraq indefinitely. Imagine if another country with 20 times our military technology invaded America to remove Bush from power and decided to stick around for five years. I'd be a terrorist in their eyes too. So how do you define 'victory' in Iraq? Killing every citizen there? Bush is our problem and we don't need some other country pretending to be our daddy. Let's take care of our own problem - vote for Obama!

Posted by sal October 10, 08 01:48 PM
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The McCain-Palin ticket is completely out of step with what is happening: I am sure this is playing well with their 'base' since they are mostly whites earning less than 35,000 a year, but everyone else in the US is watching as 8 trillion dollars has been erased from the communal wealth of the rest of the country. And every single day this dip continues, the harder this economy is going to hit - when it finally finds the bottom of this abyss.

So talk on McCain-Palin - meanwhile, the rest of America has already turned to Obama-Biden ticket as an indicator of what to expect once they take over White House.

I might also add that the KKK-like feel of the McCain-Palin ticket should be extremely troubling to all Americans with any knowledge of our history: An economic plunge of this magnitude coupled with race baiting is somewhere a responsible leader should not have chosen to go ... but they did because, in the end, Palin and McCain represent the very far fringes of this nation of ours, in the shadowy territory of domestic terrorists like Vogel and others who brought to life men like McVeigh.

Troubling times, and McCain and Palin are merely contributing to the mess.

Posted by Alex October 10, 08 02:03 PM
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"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."

That's right, EARLIER THIS YEAR Ms Palin addressed a group who admires a man who, before dying in a freak plastics explosives accident, said that.

Volger, the former leader of AIP got blown up by plastic explosives in the early '90's.
And Todd Palin was in the group for several years.

And Sarah has spoken several times at their conventions.

Conventions calling for the secession of Alaska from the US.

How very patriotic

Posted by watchhound October 10, 08 02:15 PM
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good thing old Mister Magoo is on the ball here... otherwise we might experience a substantial economic collapse.

conservatives should just vote for "that one" and wait for 2012.

Posted by Bob Barr is smarter than you October 10, 08 02:33 PM
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What is "Republican Logic"? It must be an oxy-moron

Posted by Larry Linn October 10, 08 02:39 PM
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The McCain republican rallies reminds me of Muslim Ramadan self beating of the Shiite Islamic sect. Give it up John and seek treatment for PTSD. Palin go home let Alaska deal with you.

Posted by Archie Haase October 10, 08 02:42 PM
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You know, I am getting very tired of hearing mindless lemmings praise McCain for his service. I am a Vietnam Vet, I lost a lot of friends over there. McCain was a bungling punk. The son and grandson of wealthy Admirals who finished fifth from the bottom in a class of almost 900. He would have been drummed out of the military but for family influence. He destroyed millions of dollars worth of airplanes including one in Nam. His JOB was to escape when he wrecked his plane, instead... he surrendered. Then when handed the same treatment as all other POW''''s he committed treason and spilled his guts to the Cong. When he came home he committed adultry with a drug addicted bimbo, then left his disabled wife and married the ''''Barbi'''' for her daddy''''s money. John McCain is a punk and a coward!

Posted by chuck October 10, 08 03:10 PM
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I just hope we can all pull together as a country and over come the obsticals we have coming for us all down the road ,Im middle class America and make under 100,000 a year and raise two sons on my own, my choice in this election is Obama hes the only one with real answers to the problems we are all facing as a nation or are all going to face in the near future

Posted by andy October 10, 08 03:33 PM
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After the election, when all the dust is down, I am sure McCain would be so ashamed of the things that he is doing now in a frenzy. Probably he is senses are pretty weak, and after Nov 5th, I am sure it will take a while for him to overcome the shame and face the public again. This guys is not fit to be on the ballot box.


Posted by Ramesh October 10, 08 03:35 PM
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I watched the news showing McCain’s interview on Fox being televised on CNN, FOX, and other networks. In the interview McCain said he wanted Obama to come out with the truth about Ayers so the public can decide. Why isn’t anyone calling out McCain on his hypocrisy on TROOPERGATE? He asks for public truth from Obama, yet he sends his lawyers to Alaska to cover up TROOPERGATE to avoid public scrutiny. Why doesn’t McCain let Palin testify about her TROOPERATE connection so the American Public can decide – the same standard he wants to apply to Obama. Do you smell hypocrisy?

I don’t want to hear this excuse that TROOPERGATE is politically motivated and that the AYERS connection isn’t. Palin was in office as a government official during TROOPERGATE while Obama was eight years old when Ayers did his despicable act. You tell me which has more validity in applying a standard of judgment -- a person governing when the act was being committed or a person who was eight years old when someone else committed the act?

If judgment is what McCain is questioning about Obama, shouldn’t the American pubic question McCain’s judgment for picking a VP that may be using her powers for personal reasons? Sounds like Bush/Chaney tactic to twist the law to protect them elves and those they surround themselves with. After all, Palin's character could be a heart beat away from the Presidency if McCain is elected. The public deserves the truth by her testifying in front of an INDEPENDENT board, not one she picks. How many middle class citizens you know that would get away with ignoring a subpoena -- hmmm, I guess if you could hire high powered lawyers to put you and your cronnies above the law, you could.

Come on, what are you afraid of McCain, the truth? McCain keeps preaching about transparency in government, but I guess that only applies to others, not himself or those he surrounds himself with.

McCain seems to wear hypocrisy as well as one of his thousand dollar suits. His campaign and campaign tactics looks more and more like the same eight years of Bush scare tactics that middle class come to despise. BUSH SCARE TACTICS MAY OF WORKED FOR THE WAR, BUT IT WON'T WORK FOR THE ECONOMY. WE SWALLOWED THE BUSH SCARE TACTIC PILL BEFORE AND THE ONLY CURE FOR THIS CANCER IS TO PUT IN OFFICE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T REFLECT BUSH POLICIES WHILE CAMPAIGNING -- WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO BELIEVES THERE IS A BETTER WAY AND THAT SURE ISN'T THE MCCAIN’S HYPOCRISY POLICY THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE ELSE, WHILE HE APPLIES DIFFERENT STANDARDS TO HIMSELF AND THE HYPOCRITES HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH.

BRING IT ON, MCCAIN, AT THE NEXT DEBATE. I DARE YOU!

Posted by steeve October 10, 08 03:44 PM
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Such are the kinds to be drawn to the likes of those two.

Yes, they appeal to such people, the angry ignorant, and those whose reasonings are in reality a kaleidoscope showcase of classic fallacies.

The easily swayed, the easily ticked off, the tunnel vision visionaries, the gut-feeling gutless, the inspired imbeciles, the righteous damned, all caught up in the suction of the intellectual vacuum that is a McCain-Palin rally.

What a scene.

Posted by theantibush October 10, 08 03:59 PM
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Retired Pheonix Police Officer John McLamb, has the distinction of being the most highly decorated police officer in the history of Phoenix, Arizona.
McLamb explained that as a Vietnam veteran, he knows and is in contact with veterans, and a few P.O.W.s.

"All the P.O.W.s that I've talked to over the years say that John McCain is a lying skunk...."

"...You know, he never was tortured. When he came in with his two broken arms because he failed to pull his arms in when he bailed out of his plane, and had a leg injury, he immediately started spilling his guts about everything because he didn't want to get tortured..."

McLamb goes on to say that John McCain made 32 videos for the communists, speaking out against America's Vietnam Policies. This information is now sealed and classified.

Posted by Brave Hero or Traitorous Coward? October 10, 08 04:06 PM
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What's the problem? Its a great ad. All the points are true. So where's the smear? Since when is telling the truth a smear campaign? If Obama had denounced his connection with Ayers, Wright, Flager, etc. as misjudgement and apologized for supporting these radicals, then we could just forgive him and move on. But he has LIED about his connection to these anti-Americans every time. Why not point that out? It shows a lack of judgement in his associations. After all, if elected, he will be choosing a cabinet, judges, etc. I think his judgement is a VERY important thing to look at.

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