Clinton defends Obama on taxes

Hillary - I guess Obama doesn't have to do negative attack ads (which he has, but anyway) since he has newspapers like the NY Times to do his bidding. If you were the brunt of that recent hatchet job that lied about Cindy McCain you'd go absolutely ballistic.

A different perspective for readers.

My husband and I were born to poverty on a rural Oklahoma farm, literally on a farm. Born ignorant and penniless, we have worked our fingers to the bone for decades to arrive at a position in life of comfortable wealth. We worked our way out of poverty to wealth, worked really hard.

Last fiscal year we paid a fifty-three percent tax rate, a combined personal income tax, capital gains tax and other taxes. More than half of our income is taken away by taxes, not including typical retail taxes. We estimate under an Obama administration, our tax liability will move up ten percent, to about a sixty-three percent tax rate. Under a McCain administration, our total tax rate will be significantly reduced.

High taxes, this annoys us. However, what really angers us is our family, including our daughter, will be carrying the weight of a majority of Americans upon our backs. Bad enough as is, but Obama will make this worse by taking away our hard earned money then giving our money to those who pay no taxes, to those who do not contribute as much to America, to those who do not work as hard as our family.

Obama will render our family a welfare agency, in fact. This is his plan.

Our family response, should Obama be elected, will be to cash out much of our stock market investments, cash out our real estate investments, cash out almost all our investment holdings. We will do this to lower and hopefully eliminate our tax exposure. Millions of other families, I am sure, will do the same. We will withdraw our family money from America.

Obama will prompt many to take actions which will lead to economic disaster for America.

Our family is extremely angry about this prospect of carrying the weight of Americans upon our backs which includes, most likely, you readers.

Our family was born to poverty. We worked our way out of poverty, on our own with no help from any nor our government. None of us have ever collected unemployment benefits, never have received food stamps nor received welfare. We have pride. We work hard. We carry our own weight as all people should.

Where is your pride? Why should our family have to carry your weight upon our backs?

Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation

In 2001, Senator McCain argued, "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief."

I am a former NY person, on Cliton's watch was the worst living conditions. When Enron crippled local business and then 9/11 really crippled peoples lives and business.
How?
the birth of the rreal estate Bubble in 1998, people were fleeing NY at it was said to be 35% of family age 30-45 pack up and left. most technical jobs because after 9/11 NY halted all spending. that meant school constructions, state & local gov't up grades.
What happened?
Well collage seen LIPA and utility sur charges rocket up every month or so, kids were toll Tuitions increased or you will have to wait till you come up with more money. State was losing the base real estate tax, so a reassemnt of houses were done. most went up a couple thousand dollars while very few went down.
What is your point?
Point is if taxes go up on hard time, like mortgages the month bill goes up reflectingthat. Parents getting asloslammed with tuition rate increase, then also Utility companies getting away with fuel sur-charges even when some months oil cost went down.

Cliton could have saved NY peoples dreams, but allowed the whole greed of Mega companies getting away to make the remaining people carry the cost to support those bugets and companies profolios from looking sour.

Bad, bad, bad, shame on them and thier Idea of taxes the middle class who now is getting back on thier feet evoling into the small business that just grew in the past 8 years.

Hillary's doing her part to speak the facts to the public, in light of the falsities being spewed by the GOP. If she continues to do so, the gap between Obama and McCain will keep increasing up to election day...

"We want a tide that doesn't just lift the yachts"

I love that!

The yachts have been floated and refurbished and rebuilt and expanded till the rich don't know what else to improve. Eating one steak a day simply hasn't been enough for them. They need to show their buddies that they throw away more steaks then their neighbors.
Bush needs to go down. No Presidential pardons. No Club Fed vacations. If McCain gets in,all of Rove's, Rumsfelds, Cheney's and Bush's dirty and illegal deeds will be swept under the carpet and nothing will ever change. America will lose even more dignity and respect. We will become ever more cynical. No, vote Obama and send a message that the days of "things as usual" are gone. No more trash government.

I be voting for Obama in NH it's about time they start paying state and sales tax to spread the wealth around, go Obama go

How racism works

What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer
measured up to his standards?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain
killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama were a member of the 'Keating 5'?
What if McCain was on a Board of Directors to improve education in his community and met a former terrorist on the Board that shared the common denominator - the wish to improve education in the community?

If these questions reflect reality, do you really believe the election
numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does.

Right on Colleen! You've hit the nail right on the head with that one!

Purl Gurl you need to hire a competent CPA to prepare your return I've never heard of anyone's effective tax rate being that high.

Dear ,Okpulot Taha

While you may no longer be poor, you are certainly still ignorant. You do not add taxes rates, you average them. How do you think you got rich, you live in america. You made your wealth on the backs of others. Instead of paying better wages, you and your family hoarded the cash.

Corporations pay a lower tax rate than individuals when loop holes are taken into condsideration. So if you are paying more than 50%, you are not only ingnorant, but stupid as well. This is why the government needs to step in since more and more the rich are gearing the system to themselves.

This is your country, if you do not take care of it who will? Thes people on your back, they are your contryman and women. Where has the last 8 years gotten this country, not you, the country. you sound like a 6 yr old...ME, ME,ME! The country is in trouble, do not ask what it can still do for you but, ask what you can do for it.

Give till it hurts.

YOU are killing this land! You ungrateful B'ster

And by the way, I doubt there is even one reader who wants or needs your filthy cash.

Kevon

Dear Taha:
Here's another perspective. You are no judge of what hard work looks like. I've worked myself on jobs to the bone too - and with lots of company. As a member of the unprotected and unconnected, we barely got our wages. Some businesses, by defining themselves as 'agricultural' are excused from paying a minimum wage. Agricultural work is exhausting, and major farms cherry pick healthy workers and work them to the bone. You do not fool me when you say you earned your wealth 'all by myself'. You were either connected, protected, or you inherited. You are not however, the only person to be worked to the bone. You simply got lucky and got a reward.

Biden's Comments This Past Sunday in Seattle...Very Scary!

"And here's the point I want to make. Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he's gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you, not financially to help him, we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right. Because all these decisions, all these decisions, once they're made if they work, then they weren't viewed as a crisis. If they don't work, it's viewed as you didn't make the right decision, a little bit like how we hesitated so long dealing with Bosnia and dealing with Kosovo, and consequently 200,000 people lost their lives that maybe didn't have to lose lives. It's how we made a mistake in Iraq. We made a mistake in Somalia. So there's gonna be some tough decisions. They may emanate from the Middle East. They may emanate from the sub-continent. They may emanate from Russia's newly-emboldened position because they're floating in a sea of oil."

Purl Gurl,
If you are basing your vote on the sole issue of taxation in this election, then you are a most selfish and ignorant soul. How dare you cast a vote on your assumption that you will lose some of your wealth. That is downright pathetic. My great grandmother came to this country, through Ellis Island, in 1914 at the age of 13 from Greece. She literally came with nothing but the dress she was wearing. She had 8 children. My great grandfather died at the age of 42. All of her children very successful in life. Her two sons fought in WW II. One became a State Supreme Court Justice and another was a State Senator. Her six daughters all became small business owners. Needless to say, they have all accumulated "wealth" from nothing. Do you know how they all vote? Democrat. And the reason being this country used to give everyone a chance to fulfill their hopes and dreams. For that they are forever grateful. They never forget where they came from.

Where is the country that so many around the world adored for so long? It now belongs to the greedy and ignorant who could give a damn about anything and anyone but themselves. It belongs to those who turn a blind eye on a needless war in Iraq that has claimed hundreds of thousands of innocent lives and billions of dollars just so they can save a few dollars on their tax bills. It is sad to think that money is what inspires people to cast a vote for a candidate in this day and age. I long to see the day again when citizens of the world speak of the United States as the greatest nation on the face of the Earth.

Some of these comments (like the first one from Oklahoma) look like spam. Are they for real? I find it hard to believe that you pay that much in taxes. In fact, I don't believe you.