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Elitists everywhere you look on East Coast

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor October 23, 2008 02:17 PM

In part two of his interview with the Republican ticket, NBC's Brian Williams had an interesting exchange about who are the elitists that John McCain and Sarah Palin rail against.

"Who is a member of the elite?" Williams asked, according to excerpts of the interview, which will air this evening on "Nightly News."

"Oh, I guess just people who think that they're better than anyone else. And-- John McCain and I are so committed to serving every American. Hard-working, middle-class Americans who are so desiring of this economy getting put back on the right track. And winning these wars. And America's starting to reach her potential. And that is opportunity and hope provided everyone equally. So anyone who thinks that they are-- I guess-- better than anyone else, that's-- that's my definition of elitism," Palin replied.

"So it's not education? It's not income-based?" Williams inquired.

"Anyone who thinks that they're better than someone else," Palin said.

"It's not a state of mind? It's not geography?" Williams asked again.

"'course not," Palin answered.

"I know where a lot of 'em live," McCain added with a laugh.

"Where's that?" Williams asked.

"Well, in our nation's capital and New York City," McCain replied. "I've seen it. I've lived there. I know the town. I know-- I know what a lot of these elitists are. The ones that she never went to a cocktail party with in Georgetown. I'll be very frank with you. Who think that they can dictate what they believe to America rather than let Americans decide for themselves."

The Georgetown cocktail party seems to be a favorite bogeyman for McCain.

He made another reference in defending Palin earlier this month against Republican critics. "If there's a Georgetown cocktail party person, who quote, calls himself a 'conservative,' and doesn't like her, good luck," McCain told the Des Moines Register editorial board, waving his hand dismissively.

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OMG.....it's like watching Hee Haw reruns. Howdee!

Posted by Sam October 23, 08 02:21 PM
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"...Who think that they can dictate what they believe to America rather than let Americans decide for themselves."

You mean like saying "It would be unamerican! You can't put a man named Barack Hussein Obama in the White House?" Like that?

Posted by The Whole Story October 23, 08 02:40 PM
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When Palin says that she believes America is the greatest country in the world does that match her definition of an elitist as "anyone who thinks that they're better than someone else"?

Posted by McGinnest55 October 23, 08 02:43 PM
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Whole Story - How about a citation for that quote? Or are you content to let folks believe it is attributed to McCain or Palin - which it is not.

Posted by Andrew October 23, 08 02:50 PM
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McGinnest55 good one

Posted by frank johnson October 23, 08 02:52 PM
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I guess an "elitist" believes that they deserve to wear clothing that is worth more than many people make in a year.

Posted by Dan October 23, 08 02:53 PM
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Seriously, when did the word "elite" become such a bad word? I would have loved to have had an "elite" president the last 8 years...

Palin should be very happy, if that's what she's so concerned about, because she is as far as you can be from being elite!

Posted by DP October 23, 08 02:53 PM
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WHAT'S THE MATTER PEOPLE! THE TRUTH HURT......... JUST A LITTLE........

Posted by FFED October 23, 08 02:55 PM
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So, what do I call a person who accepts 150k in clothing to improve her image? Would she be an elitist or a poser? Does she think she's going to impress the working class with her clothes?

Posted by hippydippy October 23, 08 02:56 PM
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What do they hope to gain by saying things like this??? This is divisive talk. Now you have a city with millions and millions of people that will be offended by this claim and if they are elected will likely hold a grudge against the government.

Posted by Mike October 23, 08 02:56 PM
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I DON"T RECALL THIS QUESTION BEING ASKED OF OBAMA, OR ANY QUESTION LIKE IT BEING ASKED? NOR IS A QUESTION ABOUT OBAMA AND FNM AND FRE BEING ASKED>....let's try this one..
And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate's campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing. Senator Obama, why in 2005 when Sen. McCain introduced tighter regulations on FNM and FRE did you not support him and head his speach on the floor of the senate for warning of this financial mess?


Posted by liberal media October 23, 08 02:57 PM
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Personally, I am proud to be an elitist. I don't only think I am better than most people, I know it.

You know what? I also want an elitist president, and vice-president. The dumbing down of this country is horrifying.

Posted by david October 23, 08 02:59 PM
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"Hard-working, middle-class Americans who are so desiring of this economy getting put back on the right track. And winning these wars. And America's starting to reach her potential."

Dear Lord, this woman is illiterate. And, Sarah, I think we WERE reaching our potential til those morons of the last eight years became in charge!

Posted by phoebes in santa fe October 23, 08 03:00 PM
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The comments actually play pretty well to a guy who has traveled all over the country... DC and NYC (to a lessor extent) ARE filled with a fair number of people who seem to think the whole country would be better off is we'd just let them make the decisions for us. If you're trying to argue that is untrue then I suggest you are either hopelessly out of touch... or one of 'em! ;-)

As for believing that America is the Greatest Country in the World, what's wrong with that? Is it so awful to believe that our republic is still mankind's best hope for self-government. Would it be fair to note that far more people around the world are trying to enter America than those trying to leave? Why is it that America needs to wear a hair shirt and be "average' just like every other country?

Posted by SBSC October 23, 08 03:02 PM
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Hey McCain supporters: The campaign clearly believes that states like Massachusetts are "elitist". They have run an insulting campaign towards coastal citizens, especially ones in the Northeast.

Why do you vote for them if they hate you so? How can you support them when they say that Boston isn't "real America"?

Posted by db October 23, 08 03:11 PM
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You're only elite if you spend $450,000 in food. Not $150,000 funding a wardrobe that's going to be donated after the campaign.

Posted by Mike October 23, 08 03:13 PM
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Sarah Palin could invent the cure for Cancer and the Liberals would criticize her. People let it go....Biden is just as big an idiot as Palin but I don't hear anyone jumping all over his ignorance. Just becuase someone is well versed and a great "BS" artist like Obama doesn't mean they will do the country any favors in January. When you are all crying about your tax hikes to cover his health plan we'll see you again on the blogs pretending you didn't vote for him.

Posted by CS October 23, 08 03:16 PM
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The things I hear from McCain and his running mate actually boggle my mind! You know what is truly sad, is the fact that this is not a joke and that many Americans actually believe and agree with these two.
It proves to me that if you lie enough about something or someone you begin to believe those lies as facts. I feel that's what the ruling Republicans have been doing for too long and that many American people have blindly believed and followed.
That woman should have been able to make a citizens arrest of Carl Rove!

Posted by Melanie McGinty October 23, 08 03:19 PM
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OK all you brilliant elitists - answer these two questions:
a) what were the two best administrations in the past 40 years (most people I ask say Clinton and Reagan - and I would agree - what do they have in common - a president that had a congress controlled by the other party)
b) Can you name a time in recent history where one party rule worked (say post WW II - but you get more points for naming an administration closer in time to the present) -

if you live in Mass - you've learned - one party rule doesn't work.

Posted by Stevil October 23, 08 03:29 PM
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"Anyone who thinks that they're better than someone else"...does that include the guy at the Sarah Palin rally waving a MONKEY DOLL labeled OBAMA??? I went to grade school in the deep South during integration, so I know the type. He knows his white skin gives him an unearned social advantage in America and he hates anything and anyone that's perceived as a threat to that advantage.

There's your elitism, Sarah Nieman Marcus Palin.

Posted by John October 23, 08 03:36 PM
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I feel like I am watching an episode from Abbot and Costello

Whose on first, I don't know, I don't know is on second base......

I am probably insulting Abbot & Costello on this one and my apologies go out their families.

How sad it is that people actually are voting for these 2 clowns.

Posted by MPM October 23, 08 03:41 PM
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If you are McCain, you could care less what the people in NYC think of you. That state is going to Obama regardless of what McCain says or does. He should have thrown in the liberal majority of Massachusetts as well. Nothing to lose...distance himself from liberal loonies. Go McCain/Palin!

Posted by MJL October 23, 08 03:44 PM
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"As for believing that America is the Greatest Country in the World, what's wrong with that? Is it so awful to believe that our republic is still mankind's best hope for self-government. Would it be fair to note that far more people around the world are trying to enter America than those trying to leave? Why is it that America needs to wear a hair shirt and be "average' just like every other country?"

And damn it, we'll kill them with hellfire missles if they don't agree to self-government..........

Posted by Cujo October 23, 08 03:48 PM
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Palin and McCain imply that you're an elitist if you disagree with them, but the only way anyone can possibly find those two appealing is if you're as mean and ignorant as them. Yikes, they're pathetic.

Posted by Elitist October 23, 08 03:49 PM
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"the ones who go to cocktail parties in Georgetown"

Oh, really John McCain? Really? Isn't that the same Georgetown you OWN ONE OF YOUR HOUSES IN! I've seen it myself-- right off the Georgetown University campus. Probably worth 1.5 million or so.

McCain supporters-- can you really defend this guy anymore? really?

Posted by Ldog October 23, 08 03:50 PM
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McCain and Palin are becoming tiresome and boring. This is the best they can do? Maligning the liberal elites in DC and NYC? This is such an overused stereotype that it has lost all meaning. Someone better warn the Republican campaign, there are liberal elites everywhere! They could do with a few more to help them figure out their platform and stragegy. Win or lose, setting segments of our country against each other, holding people up for ridicule, focusing on the negative - it's not a way to move forward (back maybe, but I think most of us want to move forward).

Posted by portiaperu October 23, 08 03:53 PM
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I am so very disappointed with the politicians there, those that would substitute such really elitist, such leftist and socialist ideals, for the really healthy and hard won family values of the true America. Those very people who drink cocktails in Georgetown and look down from their penthouse windows at the less fortunate Americans who don't have an opportunity to own a small business, like that wonderful Ohio man Joe the plumber, and every hard working American who lost their job because of Barrack Obama and his terrorist friends. It all goes back really there to the sixties when Obama and his friends first began plotting a strategy to bring father Flager and his kind into the family, and gosh, the things they did back then to turn us into a different kind of America. Now we can take America back from the liverals and teaach the godly values in our schools again.

Posted by Dick Morriston October 23, 08 04:00 PM
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McCain and Palin are becoming tiresome and boring. This is the best they can do? Maligning the liberal elites in DC and NYC? This is such an overused stereotype that it has lost all meaning. Someone better warn the Republican campaign, there are liberal elites everywhere! They could do with a few more to help them figure out their platform and stragegy. Win or lose, setting segments of our country against each other, holding people up for ridicule, focusing on the negative - it's not a way to move forward (back maybe, but I think most of us want to move forward).

Posted by portiaperu October 23, 08 04:00 PM
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So, if I follow Ms. Palin's argument, she is no better than...say...Charles Manson?

Posted by JWM October 23, 08 04:01 PM
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The silent majority will speak again...
Can't wait to see the dropped jaws...It will be like the looks of white people after OJ was found not guilty.

Posted by ME October 23, 08 04:03 PM
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So, buying $150,000 worth of clothes at high end retailers like Nieman Marcus and Saks doesn't make you an elitist? Because a majority of Americans can't afford to shop at such places...fits her own definition.

Do these two have an "Off" switch somewhere? Because I'm getting tired of listening to their contradicting verbal diarrhea. Is it Nov. 4th yet? Time to make them go away ...for good this time hopefully!

Posted by Scorpio October 23, 08 04:09 PM
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McCain and Palin are becoming tiresome and boring. This is the best they can do? Maligning the liberal elites in DC and NYC? This is such an overused stereotype that it has lost all meaning. Someone better warn the Republican campaign, there are liberal elites everywhere! They could do with a few more to help them figure out their platform and stragegy. Win or lose, setting segments of our country against each other, holding people up for ridicule, focusing on the negative - it's not a way to move forward (back maybe, but I think most of us want to move forward).

Posted by portiaperu October 23, 08 04:09 PM
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Hey Stebil,

Um it was a repulican govener who left us with the mess of the Big Dig and the financial mess we are in.

And to #19

Clinton and Reagan are the best two presidents in the last 40 years because they both lowered taxes on the middle class and taxed the mega rich.


Posted by IndependentsforObama08 October 23, 08 04:14 PM
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Tiresome and boring is so accurate.

I hope to God this election is not rigged in anyway and puts McCain in the White House.

I cannot stand to listen to McCain/Palin any longer. Make it stop!

Posted by MPM October 23, 08 04:15 PM
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This is REAL scary in my opinion. Blatantly looking at an entire 50% of the country and assuming that because they disagree with your worldview re: taxes, and responsibility towards your fellow man, and the role of religion in public policy as proof that they automatically think they are 'better than you' is the stuff of fascists. And to me, the Right is more well-known for forcing their worldview on the rest of the country (being anti-choice re: abortion, trying to ban non-religious-based education, banning gay marriage, etc), which to me is way more egregious in terms of thinking you are better than someone than simply by supporting a different tax model. And for a party so focused on elitists, our President for the past 8 years was a silver spoon, lifetime insider, Yale legacy student who never earned ANYTHING on his own, and yet you are worried that Obama, born to a poor, immigrant, multi-racial family and raised by a single mother is an Elitist?!

What is more scary to me however, is that these same people in New York etc whom Repubs assume think are better than them, happen to be the ones living in closest proximity to any and ALL potential terrorist targets. I tend to think that "Joe Six-Pack" would probably have a different outlook on what continued aggression in the Middle East means had he known anyone who was killed on 9/11 simply because they reported to work that morning. Or maybe they would have a better understanding of how little support we have globally in our ongoing fight against al Qaeda thanks to Bush if they actually travelled outside of our country at some point in the past 8 years, or even OWN a Passport in the first place (something Palin did not own until 1.5 years ago!!!!). So maybe it is not exactly those of us who live in big cities think that we are 'better' than anyone in the Midwest or even in more suburban/rural areas of each state, but it is a matter of how much more we "elitists" are in the actual line of fire from terrorists, how much more frequently we tend to travel outside of our local area, and how we share space with thousands of people everyday and understand that you can't go around bullying everyone and being a complete a-hole your whole life and expect people to not fight back.

I think if Topeka and Sioux Falls and Juneau were a bit higher up on the collateral damage checklist of terrorists then Joe Sixpack and Ms. Pitbul Hockey Mom might have a bit of a different view of what type of leadership we need. It's one thing to have a son enlist to fight in Iraq, as a choice. And I have all the praise in the world for all our military families. But it's another to lose a family member just because he had the misfortune of working in a building in a city attacked by terrorists. One that is apparently full of people who think they are better than the rest of the country if you ask McCain and Palin.

And as impressive as Palin's ability to see Russia from her house is, those of us who look at the former WTC side as a tomb for people we know and not a Tourist Attracttion photo opportunity, we who lost friends and loved ones on 9/11 and could not wash the acrid smell of the fallout out of our clothes for weeks and months afterward, tend to look at ACTUAL threats to our country with a little more of a desire to AVOID them, as opposed to this cowboy/rogue attitude that McCain and the Right have - thinking we will just outgun the rest of the world until they stop wanting to kill us.

So maybe we in these big cities are tired of risking being the human shield because you ignoramuses on the Right think that military might is the answer to all the world's ills, or that as long as we pray and aren't gay we'll be okay. Or any problem we have can be solved by striking first or firing a bigger gun. For a party claiming to be pro-Life, they sure seem to be a fan of creating death at every possible turn, both here and abroad.

Do I think I am better than anyone who votes Republican? No. But I know a few thousand 'elitist' New Yorkers who paid the price 7 years ago, whose families probably don't appreciate being derided by McCain. And a few million more in every big city in this country that are tired of having to live in danger because people who live nowehere near ANYTHING, let alone terrorist targets believe that our country should be run on guns and bibles.

Posted by notbandwagon October 23, 08 04:21 PM
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The elitism that is spoken of is exactly what you are exhibiting. Barak Obama's only accomplishment in his life (as far as I can tell) is going to Harvard Law. And guess what, its really not that difficult to finish college. It tells nothing of how smart a person is; study enough, and you will graduate college. The rest of the Boston citizens who similarly think they are brilliant because they have a masters degree or PhD, well, guess what, that doesn't make you brilliant. It just means you studied. Oh, yeah, and quit complaining about the student loans. You should've skipped the advanced degree and gone to work.

Posted by Dan October 23, 08 04:25 PM
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MJL - moron, the term is "could NOT care less". Or, I'm sorry, am I being elitist by pointing out that by using that term incorrectly, it means the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you ar eintending it to convey? And it's one thing to not care for how a state votes, but is that Patriotism? Oh, right, I'm sorry - Patriotism isn't based on how strong our country is as a whole, economically, educationally, etc. It is based on the size of your lapel pin. And how tough you talk while holding up people in the biggest financial center of your country as a human shield while begging to take on the world in one last fight for evermore.

Posted by notbandwagon October 23, 08 04:25 PM
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McCain and Palin are becoming tiresome and boring. This is the best they can do? Maligning the liberal elites in DC and NYC? This is such an overused stereotype that it has lost all meaning. Someone better warn the Republican campaign, there are liberal elites everywhere! They could do with a few more to help them figure out their platform and stragegy. Win or lose, setting segments of our country against each other, holding people up for ridicule, focusing on the negative - it's not a way to move forward (back maybe, but I think most of us want to move forward).

Posted by portiaperu October 23, 08 04:27 PM
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#19 Ronald Reagan -ELITIST

Posted by mimi October 23, 08 04:30 PM
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The only ones trying to "dictate what they believe to America" in this campaign are McCain and Palin. They believe life begins at conception, so no one else gets to choose abortion, regardless of the circumstances and their personal beliefs. They believe there's no such thing as climate change, so the rest of us will have to live with rising seas and worsening weather. They believe that tax cuts for the wealthy stimulate the economy, so working men and women will continue to see their real wages decline, their job opportunities shrivel up, and the value of their homes fall. They believe that health care for all is un-American, so the rest of us will see our health benefits taxed, the coverage we can buy diminished, and more and more people facing a choice between paying for their health care or eating. They believe that that war in Iraq must be "won," so the rest of us will have to keep picking up that $10 billion/month tab and burying our sons and daughters. They believe that running the most negative campaign in recent history somehow puts our country first, so come November 4th, the rest of us will be left trying to knit together our fractured nation once again.

At this point, everyone should realize that whatever the Republicans are accusing someone else of doing is EXACTLY what the Republicans are doing.

Posted by JP Gal October 23, 08 04:31 PM
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If these two are elected, George W. Bush will seem elite compared to the mediocrity displayed by Bush and Palin. People, do they represent the standards we want for our country and our children? They will nail the head on the coffin of the American dream. They call Obama a socialist; I call them fascists.

Posted by Can't wait til Obama wins October 23, 08 04:33 PM
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These two are going down in a ball of fire and they know it. But I've got news for you, Barack ain't the Saviour either. Get a grip, get a life, and stop worrying so much about politics. Nobody in Washington ever spent two seconds thinking about you, except of course how to get your vote. So don't worry about it. Keep your head up and stay alert so you won't get shot or otherwise be a victim of a crime. Carry yourself with a positive attitude, enjoy the little things in life like Chinese food (delicious spicy Szchuan jumbo shrimp with rice) and dog racing (vote NO on 3), and you will be fine!

Posted by Jonny D October 23, 08 04:34 PM
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ldog - it is not a matter of defending him. THere are only two choices with a chance to win plus a few minor candidates that have no chance. I would never vote for a socialist that wants to re-distribute wealth because that is a proven failure as an economic system. I also expect the President to be aggresive in defending our country and our interests. Obama fails on both accounts. I'm not sure about McCain since he is quite liberal himself. I'll probably vote for the LIbertarian Bob Barr.

So I don't defend McCain - but how can you even think about voting for a socialist siisy boy?

Posted by Ricahrd October 23, 08 04:36 PM
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Sarah Palin could invent the cure for Cancer,

Bet she won't!

Posted by fishsc October 23, 08 04:37 PM
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Sarah Palin deciding who is a real American and who is not reminds me of (Senator) Joe McCarthy deciding who is unAmerican and who is not. That adds one more Joe to her list, after Joe six-pack and Joe the Plumber.
Elaine B.

Posted by Elaine Bakal October 23, 08 04:38 PM
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This campaign is like a train wreck. I just can't look away.
I am just appalled at how this woman puts a sentence together! Her 2nd grade definition of elitist is funny. But no one will be laughing if they steal this election.
Do they really think that INSULTS are going to win them election?
Disgusting, just awful.

And to those who say 'we love Sarah, she is just like us' is really embarassing themselves. If anyone ever compared me to this moron I would be pretty upset.

Posted by kristah October 23, 08 04:39 PM
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Barak Obama's only accomplishment in his life (as far as I can tell) is going to Harvard Law. And guess what, its really not that difficult to finish college. It tells nothing of how smart a person is; study enough, and you will graduate college.
Dan,
Any idea how hard it is to get into Harvard Law School let alone be Editor of the Law Review. He also taught Constitutional Law at Columbia (another Ivy League school) and is a US Senator from Illinois. I think he has several accomplishments. May not rival being mayor of Wasilla Alaska, but he did alright.

Posted by fishsc23 October 23, 08 04:41 PM
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Rudy Giuliani lives in New York. Mitt Romney lives in Greater Boston. John McCain Lives in Georgetown.

Let's rid ourselves of these elitists!

Posted by j0646 October 23, 08 04:45 PM
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Very well said notbandwagon

Posted by VeryWellSaid October 23, 08 04:46 PM
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McCain and Palin are becoming tiresome and boring. This is the best they can do? Maligning the liberal elites in DC and NYC? This is such an overused stereotype that it has lost all meaning. Someone better warn the Republican campaign, there are liberal elites everywhere! They could do with a few more to help them figure out their platform and stragegy. Win or lose, setting segments of our country against each other, holding people up for ridicule, focusing on the negative - it's not a way to move forward (back maybe, but I think most of us want to move forward).

Posted by portiaperu October 23, 08 04:49 PM
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Would somebody PLEASE teach Sarah Palin to speak English - her words are even more confusing when you read them

Posted by Macker October 23, 08 04:53 PM
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Why do so many people want the smartest and most talented people in the world to preside over the companies in which they own stock, but they want someone just like them, perhaps someone they would like to enjoy a beer with, to preside over the United States?

Posted by jimmind October 23, 08 04:58 PM
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To JWM...You can follow Palins' argument....Jeez you're clever.

Posted by brian loneske October 23, 08 05:04 PM
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To Liberal media: Do you know all that was completely debunked and as a matter of FACT, McCain's Campaign is run by the lobbiest for Fannie Mae who got them all the changes in Congress that led to their downfall. That is why it is not made an issue. That ad you saw was a blatant attempt at racism and didn't last long because Raines never had anything to do with Obama. It is scary that people believe everything they hear.

Posted by Liberal media response October 23, 08 05:06 PM
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Geez wiz. Most of us would love to see our child go Harvard or George Town. I never thought that attending a quality ivy leage school meant your intelligence or opinions were less valuable than the common meth dealer in Alaska.
Palin and McCain are absolute idiots. When we need a President that unifys people... McCorpse & Palin "What's a VP Do?" are pitting people against each other.

Obama got into an Ivy leage school thru smarts and hardwork - not wealth. Get over that McCorpse and start planning your retirement and Palin's jail hair-dos!

Posted by Carolyn Ramus October 23, 08 05:07 PM
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Obama's REAL children-friendly! He SUPPORTS Partial-Birth Abortion, the most bestial, sadistic "medical procedure" allowed in this country, against the most innocent and helpless victims, voted AGAINST the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act, which protects babies who survive abortion attempts and are born alive from being killed or left alone to die (he was the only Illinois Senator to speak against it) and even NARAL wasn't for that, but he ALSO has stated that women should have some period of time after a baby is born to decide if they want it KILLED! What part of THIS GUY IS A MONSTER do you not understand??

Posted by lightnin October 23, 08 05:14 PM
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Here's an example of "democratic" financial responsibility:

WHO screwed up Social Security??

When Social Security began the "democrats" SAID:

Participation would be VOLUNTARY.

The contributions would be TAX-DEDUCTIBLE.

The funds wouldn't be used for anything ELSE, and

interest would ADD to the account.

The payouts would NEVER BE TAXED.

LBJ & demo majorities in the House and Senate put the

funds in the General Fund so they could use it for

their pet projects (PORK), no interest adds to the

fund now!

CARTER & demo majorities in the House and Senate

gave Social Security to immigrants who had never

PAID IN!

CLINTON & demo majorities in the House and Senate

made the CONTRIBUTIONS taxable, AND made the

PAYOUTS taxable! (Al Gore cast the deciding vote on

the payouts!)

OBAMA wants to GIVE Social Security to the 11 million

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS that are here, ALONG WITH

Medicare! (Think more or them will come then to get

in on THAT?) AND, with demo majorities in the House

and Senate, he'll SUCCEED!

AND, after all THAT, the "democrats" have the GALL to

blame Republicans for the mess Social Security is in!

Posted by lightnin October 23, 08 05:15 PM
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#36: Experience is irrelevant. McCain took that off the table when he picked his Nobody of the North. Obama is as technically qualified as Lincoln was, to choose a name at random.

We're not asking for a Vice President with a PhD. But we have a right to expect somebody who's not a halfwit (temporarily leaving aside liar and phony). If that's elitism, sign me up.

Obama is the next Reagan and even Republicans know it. That's why some hate him, and others are going to vote for him.

Posted by John October 23, 08 05:16 PM
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I guess I am also am an elitist, because I know Obama is a sham and I am a more honest person than he is.

Posted by Pat October 23, 08 05:18 PM
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Wow. Just wow.

Really, someone should tell Osama Bin Laden that he attacked the wrong town. Listening to Republicans, you'd think that New York City is just a worthless ****-hole.

Posted by alex October 23, 08 05:19 PM
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So all Christians are Elitists.

I'm glad they cleared that up for me.

Posted by Todd October 23, 08 05:34 PM
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This is very surreal ...
This has been like an amusement park ride...scary...and funny..
Especially when people suggest Palin in the White House in 2012...
"Those who think they can dictate what they believe to America ,rather than let Americans decide for themselves..."
Such as religious choice, abortion, gay marriage,war... beluga whale,wolves, environment, global warming,etc...all of the things that Palin and McCain think that they know what is best....
"Course Not"

Posted by Micheli October 23, 08 05:34 PM
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That's their definition of "elitist"? Are these people still in junior high school?

Posted by mjr October 23, 08 05:46 PM
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McCain says he's not George Bush but employs his "divide and conquer" rhetoric, the "your either with us or against us" babble. I'm convinced McCain would actually be worse than Bush.

Elitist in the oval office? Not a problem with me.

Posted by Sam October 23, 08 05:56 PM
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McCain and Palin.................Does Not Compute! Does Not Compute!
OMG.....give me a bucket I'm going to Puke!
Head spinning, gaskets blowing!
Need to Reboot!

Posted by jack of all October 23, 08 05:58 PM
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Now, do you understand why this guy lost to Bush?

You know, these two are just a couple of smucks and you wonder how they manage to not blow their brains out when they sneeze. What's scary is the people that idolize these smucks.

Posted by Sarah October 23, 08 06:12 PM
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I must be elitist. I like Obama, the smart, educated guy not the worst student in the Navy or the woman who bounced around colleges and doesn't read newspapers.

Posted by Elitist October 23, 08 06:40 PM
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NOTBANDWAGON...blowhard!!! Elitist! Yeah, that's what I meant. Oops, I made a mistake. Point made, point taken. Thanks for correcting me! Enjoy the end of America when Obamerica takes over!

Posted by MJL October 23, 08 07:13 PM
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Well, lightnin, I'd accept your argument EXCEPT...since Carter we have had: 8 years of Ronald Regan, 4 years of Bush Sr., 8 years of Clinton, and 8 years of Bush Jr. So. In 28 years we have had a Republican president for TWENTY of those years. Twenty. Tell me then, sir, what did the men in charge for TWENTY years do about Social Security? Oh, yeah, that's right. Nothing. Wonder why that is.

Posted by suburbanelite October 23, 08 07:22 PM
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Dick Morriston - you are clueless.

"It all goes back really there to the sixties when Obama and his friends first began plotting a strategy to bring father Flager and his kind into the family"

Are you serious?? Obama was BORN August 4, 1961 !! You're saying he began his "plot" as a toddler ? And he had it all worked out by the time he was NINE YEARS OLD!?

Truly amazing ignorance out there. If everyone who thinks like you, Dick Morriston, is not an elitist - then bring on the elitists. Please. In fact, I'll take two...

Stunning. Absolutely stunning. Go play pattycake with Jesus and leave the thinking to the rest of us.

Posted by Ed S. October 23, 08 07:23 PM
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If Obama-loving NBC wants to give the Republican candidates a roughing up with antagonistic questions, that's fine.
But journalism requires objectivity. DO THE SAME to the Democrats, instead of being liberal bumkissers.

Posted by Bob October 23, 08 07:25 PM
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As per dictionaries, 3 kinds of elite: intellectual, social and economic. Sarah Palin is railing against the first kind. 100% sure she is the social elite - witness the designer clothes, and its factual that she is better looking than most and so is socially an elite by definition. Economic elite - she is all for them and for NO additional taxes even, definitely she is ok with uneven distribution of wealth and is not an economic communist.
That leaves intellectual elitism: one can believe that she lacks there and so is tripped up by Katie Couric and Charles Gibson. I might conclude that she is all for intellectual communism - no one should feel or have any excess of intellect,

Posted by sean October 23, 08 07:31 PM
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As reported today. Just you wait and see, when Obama loses it will launch the biggest race riot this country has ever witnessed. This is the Big Elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about.

From FoxNews 10/23/08:

A John McCain volunteer says she was robbed at knifepoint Wednesday in Pittsburgh by an attacker who cut a 'B' into her face after noticing a McCain bumper sticker on her car.

The Republican presidential nominee has since called the volunteer, 20-year-old Texas resident Ashley Todd, and spoken with her and her family.

Todd was working at a nearby phone bank before she was apparently attacked near an ATM machine.

Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richards said the victim was withdrawing money at 9 p.m. Wednesday when a man approached her from behind, put the knife to her neck and demanded money. She says she gave him $60.

She told police the robber then noticed the bumper sticker, punched her in the back of the head, knocked her down and then carved a "B" on the right side of her face.

Police say an officer saw the letter on the victim's cheek, but that she refused medical attention.

A police report does not describe the size or severity of the injury.

FOX News' Carl Cameron and The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Posted by Race War October 23, 08 07:42 PM
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I don't care what that woman says or how she says it. What infuriates me is that she has never, not once, had an open press conference.

THAT is the biggest friggin' insult to this country of free speech and free ideas that anyone pretending to LEAD could possibly deliver. It is unforgivable and I blame the media as much as those two arrogant candidates (McCain and Palin, of course) for letting us forget that.

Speaking directly to the American people is IMPORTANT. Showing enough respect for us that you'll answer our questions and not dodge them (or blatantly say you just WON'T) is IMPORTANT. And you McCainites, don't now jump in and cry the media is biased. So is Iraq, so it Russia, so is the friggin' members of CONGRESS and the business community and DC bureaucrats and just about anyone you're going to HAVE to deal with if we are so stupid as to elect your sorry arse.

Wjhy the heck aren't more people furious about this?


Posted by Philip Avon St. Cyr October 23, 08 07:42 PM
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Why can't we all just get along?

Posted by Rodney King October 23, 08 07:49 PM
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McCain's diatribes against Washington is nothing but a lot of phony self-righteous BS. Know how I know? Because he pronounces Washington as Warshington. I lived in DC for many years. Nobody, and I mean nobody in this country pronounces Washington the way McCain does, except those that have lived there so long as to pick up the inflection. McCain's whole outsider persona is a complete sham. His whole "straight-talk" costume is just that, a costume. Behind it is an entrenched insider who gets maverick status by virute of having voted with his party 90% of the time, instead of 100% of the time.

Posted by Close2theEdge October 23, 08 08:22 PM
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Short comment, which could suffice to answer a lot of the nonsense being spun out by the RNC team at the moment. The Founding Fathers of our country were not Joe SixPack people. Virtually all of them were among the best-educated people of their times, and acted with a gravity that is the very definition of how the elite SHOULD behave. These sad machinations have more to do with middle school politics than they have to do with the politics of people capable of uniting and running a country.

Posted by gsmitty October 23, 08 09:01 PM
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Independentsforobama:

This is my problem with obama supporters - when they lose an argument they just start making stuff up (people won't believe you just because you tell lies over and over)

1) Tip O'Neil and Dukakis got us the big dig - and as bad as it is - can you imagine where we'd be if we had our legislature and a democratic governor ??? Nobody would be left to use it because the taxes/tolls would have driven us all away. Remember our Republican governors can't do anything without the approval of our democratic legislature.

2) Clinton and Reagan both lowered taxes across the board to get us out of recessions - they did NOT tax the megawealthy more - they lowered everyone's taxes. Bush just lowered them more - he couldn't lower taxes on 40% of the population because they don't pay taxes!! Reagan's biggest mistake was lowering taxes and INCREASING spending (Obama's solution).

Hold on to your hats boys and girls - because you are not going to like what happens when you tax rich people - because you know what they do:

a) move their investments into tax sheltered/deferred vehicles
b) move their investments overseas
c) move themselves overseas

I've already got my legal tax avoidance strategy built - and there is no way Obama can stop me unless he wants to reinvent the entire philosophy of the US tax system. Do you have any idea the pain the rest of you will be in when the rich start moving their assets into tax deferred and sheltered assets and invest overseas instead of in the US? If you think the government's budget problems are bad now, wait 12 months.

Stevil


Posted by Stevil October 23, 08 09:15 PM
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Hey if you, me, Palin, and McCain are all equal, why do their rich buddies get most of the tax breaks? Good question! And if the Republicans want to let Americans decide things for themselves, why does SP want to take away a woman's right to choose? And why do Republicans, who clearly want to treat everyone equally, abhor same sex relationships (unless it is in the men's room in a Minneapolis airport)? These questions must make me a liberal elitist. Yeah, I'm a construction worker who WILL show you what I think of that label.

I'll tell you where we are all equal - we all have a substantial share of our national debt to repay, courtesy of the last three Republican administrations.

This country is so stupid, we can't even think for ourselves. Has it occurred to you conservatives that your party says one thing and does another? I mean it is complete BS! Bush ran in 2004 on an anti-terror platform and then Katrina showed how prepared he was for anything! Easier to point fingers and forget about reality. Go ahead, vote Republican - for your "rights" and for "small government".

Posted by johninsouthdeerfield October 23, 08 09:22 PM
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Obama is just another Harvard elitist who thinks he knows what's best for the American people no matter what we think. Its sounds like the liberal elitism that the Democrats had with Dukakis. I would have voted for Hillary but not for the crap that the Democrats have given us in this "fifteen second sound bite" candidate. The dumbing of America continues where all many people can understand are the soundbites which Obama is good at. Good luck America, you are going to need it!!!!

Posted by MassConfusion October 23, 08 10:04 PM
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Philp Avon - just sitting here watching CNN while reading your comment - and they said basically the same thing - Joe Biden hasn't given so much as an interview - much less a press conference - in 6 weeks. What's good for the goose is good for the gander - are you as furious about Joe "BHO will be tested Biden" as you are Sarah "Caribou Barbie" Palin?

Posted by Stevil October 23, 08 10:33 PM
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Hey if you, me, Palin, and McCain are all equal, why do their rich buddies get most of the tax breaks? Good question! And if the Republicans want to let Americans decide things for themselves, why does SP want to take away a woman's right to choose? And why do Republicans, who clearly want to treat everyone equally, abhor same sex relationships (unless it is in the men's room in a Minneapolis airport)? These questions must make me a liberal elitist. Yeah, I'm a construction worker who WILL show you what I think of that label.

I'll tell you where we are all equal - we all have a substantial share of our national debt to repay, courtesy of the last three Republican administrations.

This country is so stupid, we can't even think for ourselves. Has it occurred to you conservatives that your party says one thing and does another? I mean it is complete BS! Bush ran in 2004 on an anti-terror platform and then Katrina showed how prepared he was for anything! Easier to point fingers and forget about reality. Go ahead, vote Republican - for your "rights" and for "small government".

Posted by johninsouthdeerfield October 23, 08 11:24 PM
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Dan (#6), david (#12), jimmind (#52) and especially notbandwagon (#35)...I couldn't agree with you more. Since when did intelligence and education become dirty words? Since when does patriotism require that we fear and deride having the best and the brightest in charge? The last thing that I want is someone in the White House to be "just like me" or someone I can "relate to" or have a beer with. I want the most powerful people in this country to have some credentials to back up their power...to be blessed with exceptional intelligence and wisdom, to be worldly and well-travelled, to understand the tremendous responsibility that comes with power. Mr. 5th-from-the-bottom-of-the-naval academy and Ms. one-semester-here-and-there-at-mediocre-no-name-schools do not fit that bill.

Posted by Elitist and proud! October 24, 08 12:29 AM
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Obama is the next Reagan and even Republicans know it. That's why some hate him, and others are going to vote for him.

Posted by John October 23, 08 05:16 PMI

Obama=Reagan?

I have seen disillusion but, son, you get the prize.

Posted by Yuck yuck October 24, 08 01:33 AM
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This woman makes Bush sound like a genius when she talks.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Posted by Todd Palin October 24, 08 03:08 AM
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/when asked about who are "elitists" McCain said......"who think that they can dictate what they believe to Americans rather than let Americans decide for themselves"....isn't that what Roe vs. Wade is about? letting people (women) decide for themselves?

Posted by Diana Suttenfield October 24, 08 03:00 PM
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The reason the press is asking these types of questions is because no one knows Palin and she and McCain are the ones throwing out labels and name-calling.
Don't hate Obama because he went to Harvard. Questioning his experience might be valid, but not his intelligence.
On another note, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and W were all governors. Some were worse than others, but at least we could have confidence in their abilities to construct a simple sentence (except W, and look where he got us!) Look at what she says and how she talks. You have to read her responses over and over again to try and understand them. Help us! Help us all if they are elected!

Julie M.

Posted by Julie M. October 24, 08 05:05 PM
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Okay. Here is the deal, I want someone better and smarter than me in the White House. I want someone who is going to be able to go several rounds in the ring with some of the brightest people in the world. What is wrong with wanting to be better? Since when did becoming better and reaching higher become elitist? Isn't that the reason my parents worked four jobs so I could go to college and pursue bigger and better dreams? Or the same ones they had?

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