Obama: Times too serious for petty attacks
Responding to what is now a global financial crisis, Barack Obama today called for pragmatism not partisanship, offered some more detail on a plan to help small businesses, and tweaked his critique of Republican rival John McCain.
"This is not a time for ideology – it’s a time for common sense and a politics of pragmatism," he said this morning as he continues an economics-based tour of Ohio, a key battleground on Nov. 4. "The test of an idea must not be whether it is liberal or conservative – the test should be whether it works for the American people. That’s what we should all be focused on in the days and weeks ahead."
Obama quoted Franklin Roosevelt's admonition during the Great Depression, declaring, "Now is not the time for fear. Now is not the time for panic. Now is the time for resolve and steady leadership."
But McCain, he said, is not focused on the economy, but instead is sowing division in the country with personal attacks and nasty insinuations.
"They can run misleading ads, they can pursue the politics of anything goes. It’s not going to work, not this time," Obama said.
"I think that folks are looking for something different. It’s easy to rile up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that’s not what we need right now in the United States," Obama added. "The times are too serious. The challenges are too great.... Now, more than ever, it is time to put country ahead of politics. Now, more than ever, it is time to bring change to Washington so that it works for the people of this country that we love. I know my opponent is worried about his campaign. But that’s not what I’m worried about. I’m thinking about the Americans losing their jobs, and homes, and their life savings."
UPDATE: Tucker Bounds, a McCain spokesman, responded in a statement: “Instead of acknowledging the real differences that exist in this election, Barack Obama is using America's economic crisis to deflect legitimate criticisms of himself and his record. Now, more than ever, Americans should be scrutinizing Barack Obama’s role in shielding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from increased regulation. Voters deserve a real debate about Barack Obama’s proposals for one trillion dollars in new government spending and tax increases on small businesses – when Americans can afford neither. At a time when hardworking families face uncertainty and a historic decision in November, they expect more than Barack Obama’s self-interested calls to stifle any inquiry into his record or his past.”
For small businesses, Obama proposed a nationwide program to provide affordable, fixed-rate loans and an additional temporary business tax incentive to encourage new investment.
"If we’re going to rebuild this economy from the bottom up, it has to start with our small businesses on Main Street ... not just the big banks on Wall Street. Small businesses employ half of workers in the private sector in this country, and they account for the majority of the job growth. But we know that with a credit crunch that has dried up capital, that puts more pressure on small businesses and put their jobs at risk. ....If we don’t act, we’ll be looking at scaled-back operations, shuttered shops, laid-off workers. That hurts everybody."
This afternoon, Obama's campaign issued more detail on the small-business proposal:
While the financial market rescue plan is designed to unfreeze credit which will indirectly benefit small businesses, Obama recognizes that small businesses need direct and immediate access to capital now. Today he is calling for a Small Business Rescue Plan to help small firms get the loans the need to conduct day-to-day operating expenses, undertake short-term investments, and meet payrolls. The plan will use the tools we have available through the Small Business Administration to aggressively extend credit to struggling firms, while providing tax cuts for small businesses to encourage job creation. With small businesses responsible for more than two-thirds of new job creation, this plan is vital to stemming job losses and turning our economy around. Obama’s small business plan includes:
A Nationwide Emergency Lending Facility for Small Businesses: Just as we did in the wake of 9/11, when businesses all around the country were facing economic injury, Barack Obama is calling for the Small Business Administration to directly lend to small businesses that cannot access other sources of capital. The facility will be run through the Small Business Administration’s (SBA) Disaster Loan Program, which is designed to offer affordable, fixed- rate loans to small firms to meet operating expenses, undertake needed short-term investments, or to refinance debt. Loans should be available with an expedited approval and disbursement process, so that firms can access the credit needed to meet their operating expenses immediately.
Expanding Small Business Administration Guarantees to Encourage Private Lending to Small Businesses: Obama is calling for expanding the SBA’s key loan guarantee programs – 7(a) and 504 – by temporarily eliminating fees for borrowers and lenders and increasing the guarantee rate on private loans. These steps will give lenders new incentives to lend and help unlock credit for small firms. It will send a clear signal that the government is standing with small businesses and ensuring sources of loans.
Temporary tax incentives to encourage small businesses to invest in jobs. Obama will give small businesses additional incentive to make investments and start creating jobs again by providing temporary business tax incentives through 2009. The February 2008 stimulus bill increased maximum section 179 expenses to $250,000 but this expires in December 2008. This provision will encourage all firms to pursue investment in the coming months, but will benefit small firms in particular, who generally have smaller amounts of annual property purchases and so choose to expense the cost of their acquired property.
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Barack, times ARE too serious for petty attacks.
However, desperate circumstances and no real policy agenda on the McCain side make petty attacks the only option.
The Dow drops almost 700 points and McCain wants to talk about Obama working on education reform with a washed-up radical? Remind me how concern about education is a bad thing?
McCain and Palin are just hoping to discredit the eventual Obama administration. Same with the attacks on ACORN.
The GOP is a sorry excuse for a political party. It is a cult.
Now is the time for LEADERSHIP. And CHARACTER = LEADERSHIP. One candidate does not have the character to be our leader in these times of crisis. One candidate cannot be trusted. One candidate is willing to befriend people calling for the destruction of Israel.
Obama’s comfort level with terrorists extends beyond Bill Ayers. The board of a nonprofit organization on which Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside Bill Ayers granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a "catastrophe". That group is the Arab American Action Network or AAAN. The co-founder of AAAN, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.
In 2001, the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, for which Khalidi's wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002. Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund's website.
Obama first befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at University of Chicago. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003 while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.
Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi.
The revelations about Obama's relationship with Khalidi follows a recent WorldNetDaily article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.
Malley, a principal Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for numerous policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.
The President of the United States - Barack Obama!
Damn straight, tell him Obama, don't let liar McCain get away with this crap, his campaign is on a bridge to nowhere so he's trying to make people scared and incite fear and hatred. Yeah, cos that's gonna help us all right now. Obama is the only right decision to get our country back on track, clearly the only politician who actually does put country first.
This is what we Americians want to hear. We are not concerned about the DIRTY POLITICS. The economy is a mess and it effects everyone. What about Social Security, Food on the table, Gas in cars and heating home this winter, and Education for our Children? Don't care to hear about anything else. We need these problems addressed and lay out a plan for the Americian people.
McCain = Campaign first, Country Last
Barack Obama is a steady and strong leader in this time of economic crisis. He offers practical solutions on a small and large scale, and more than that, gives us hope.
These are not petty attacks on Obama, but an exposure of the real HIM. Telling the truth is not petty, but revealing. Obama denies this, does not want it, and will lie continuously to get elected. Check your facts on him - UTube has many videos, as well as many other websites. There is a lawsuit claiming Obama is not a citizen, therefore not qualified to be President. Google Philip Berg and you'll see the delay tactics the Obama team is using to keep the truth about this out of court.
These aren't petty attacks; they go to Obama's character and judgment. Do we want a radical leftist as President? When Obama was giving out funds for the CAC, he gave the finds to radical education groups. Now he wants mandatory national service for college students. What kind of groups do you think will get the benefit of that?
obama your right, its time to tell us your real story, HOW deep you are in ACORN?
How much money did you direct to Ayers after he left your non- profit board? was that 2001 or 2002, oh you didn't know ayers you was only 8 years old. believable my foot.
obama we don't want nor need your grubby hands in ouyr government. you , chuckie, chris dope, barney frank, nancy peloski, harry reid, terrdy kennedy are at the top of being responsible for the crash of freddie-fannie and the ultimate destuction of Wall Street. Start talking under oath obama and we will get the straight scope. Thank a democrat in NOV VOTE NO NO obama
Mr Obama does not understand that many individuals look at him, and his chief adviser Michelle, as a fraud. They continue to lie to the public about whom they associate with. Why would they choose to have their children attend a church where black racism is openly taught? How can this indoctrination bee good for their children or for society as a whole?
Ms. Dohrn and Mr. Ayers were far more than the odd, older couple down the street. To suggest any differently is a flat-out lie
McCain and Palin are working to enrage angry white America into a frenzy. Why, instead of discussing how they will make the US a better place, they resort to weapons of fear and lies to alienate Obama supporters and smear Obama is beyond me. Now, more than EVER, we need a president whose campaign is based on his own political credentials in the given political environment, not one who is only trying to win by default. Ayers and Wright have already been out there for a year, and Obama is still in the lead! Angry (and largely racist) white Americans do not need any more incentives or encouragement from the GOP to act on their hate for Obama. What they do need, like the rest of us, are solutions for the multitude of problems we face domestically and internationally. I guess addressing the issues facing Americans has all but been omitted from the McCain campaign. What a disgusting disgrace this is turning out to be.
YES !!! BARRACK OBAMA: Sharpen your focus on the needs of America and leave the rest to the people. Let the American people decide who is more qualified to lead them. If they wanted to get it wrong again, then it is the country's destiny. A country gets the leader it deserves!!
Obama at a rally in Las Vegas last month, in which he urged supporters to talk to their friends and neighbors, saying "I want you to argue with them and get in their face
Sounds to me Obama is trying to cause trouble.: Obama wants you to get in their face because they aren't voting for him. What a bunch of bull. your OBama isn't the nice guy you thought he was. What is he going to ask you to do next? its one thing to talk about someone its another to tell people to get violent and thats what will happen if you get into someones face. The rally write up was on the web but for some reason i can't find it. I was at the rally and he did say it. I was for Obama thinking he was the man tell i heard that.
"The times are too serious for petty attacks."
But McCain, he said, is not focused on the economy, but instead is sowing division in the country with personal attacks and nasty insinuations.
"They can run misleading ads, they can pursue the politics of anything goes. It’s not going to work, not this time," Obama said.
I sure would like to know what Obama's definition of petty attacks are.
I believe that Obahma is right on with what the country ,we all love ,needs in the next four years. We are in a mess and it is going to take everybody to get it back on track. The president can't do it alone he needs the backing of all of us. We all need to learn to not waste from the goverment to the people in the homes who make ten trips to the store everyday using more and more of our resorces.
For those who said the bailout is because of people making bad decisions in taking on a loan which they could not pay and did not make a down payment. What about those who did make a substanial down payment, in the end they lost their downpayment, home and hope in their brokers who may them promises they could not keep. Then, the mortgage companies sold their home over again...just straight greed and now we are all going down as a result of it all. We can not take four more years of the same. Please support the Democratic ticket! I trust Obama. I believe he is trustworthy. We need steadfastness and trustworthiness.
If McCain continues his negative attacks on Obama's integrity, the election will end in a rout. Obama will win by a landslide. Obama is a peaceful man, McCain is not and that makes McCain dangerous, he so obviously needs anger management.
Barack Obama's suggestion could not be more on target with what the average American is going through these days... We are terribly concerned about the economy....this is NUMBER ONE on OUR list. I am an Independent and sick and repulsed by the McCain camp these days resorting to "whatever" tactics they can scrape up to discredit their opponent. How come Obama is leading with all the attacks we encounter on Talk Radio and TV too against him. Isn't it because the accusations hurled at Barack are spewed forth by PEOPLE WHO WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN! Well they have succeeded in making up my mind for me. I do thank them for that!
I think John McCain is an old man who is so scared he is going to lose that he will say anything or do anything to try and get elected. He is not putting America first, he is putting himself first. He thinks he is being sly not making the attacks on Obama himself, but he has the Hockey Mom do it for him or one of his dumb workers do it for him. He doesn't have the guts to do it!!!!! He is too old and out of touch with the world today. His judgement is all wrong. We saw that, when he chose a Pit Bull instead of someone with reasoning and good language skills. Her facial ticks really get on my nerves.
Thank you for these words of decorum and a depiction of true moral. I as a registered democrat, regretfully voted republican in the last two elections, mostly based on the evangelical buttom. Even if I did go that route again, the insinuations and manner in which the republican party is trying to befooldthe american public is an insult to our very intelligence. They are praying on people's fears and ignorances, and that makes a bully not a leader. If the republican party has a better ticket as they say then they must fight like the respectable people they claim to be. Their use of his name in this underhanded manner, again a scare tactic which also alienates many "americans" who do have that name. Again is that the sound of a leader but some one who only wants to win for the sake of winning and not for the prize that is set ahead.
What has happened to John McCain? While I probably would never have voted for him, I did have a great deal of respect for him. Not so much any more. Once when I was coaching kid soccer, I got too much into the emotion of the game and was cautioned by the ref. Obama is running a very good campaign. I think he will run lead this country in the same way. McCain has made several large mistakes, (VP choice, suspending campaign, extreme negitivity) so why even take a chance on giving him the White House. Palin......oh well, enought said.
I am a Republican, and I agree with Obama. McCain has forgotten what he said and he promised, when he began his campaign. The way he has conducted his campaign has made me rethink my beliefs. I may never vote for a Republican again Thank you McCain for showing me that the Republican Party cares more about winning than ideals.
Inconceivable that the Republicans use this moment to keep hurling rocks at Obama rather than be responsible and address the real issues. They don't because they cannot. They know that all of their plans are focused on giving the rich more money and keeping EVERYONE else in the dark and without. Their plans cannot hold up to the light. It's getting incredibly ugly now. Is anyone looking? See John McCain refuse to shake Obama's hand after the debate? This is a great American Hero? Is anyone really looking? You betcha!
Obama becomes more presidential every day while John McCain is quickly losing both the race and all sense of honor. McCain has become a man without ideas, a mere rabble rouser stirring crowds to hatred and anger. Through all this, Obama remains calm and steadfast in appealing to our best angels, asking us to pull together to solve our nation's problems and setting forth specific programs that give us hope.
I'll remember this, Senator Obama, every time I get an email from one of your supporters praising your every move and condemning Senator McCain's. I've lost track of the number of unsolicited emails I've gotten from your supporters.
The times are too serious to be pulling cheap dirty tricks like this. At home, we've got a heightening economic crisis, increasing joblessness threatening to undermine the livelihoods of entire towns, people's retirement savings decimated, folks getting thrown out of their homes, and a regulatory framework guided by ideology rather than pragmatism. Overseas, we're fighting two wars, an increasingly belligerent Iran, a resurgent Russia eager to reassert it's influence on the former soviet bloc (and now Venezuela), Ukraine destabilized, China rising, and North Korea unresolved, our alliances strained due to our unilateralism..the global tectonic plates are shifting...and here we have John McCain playing these dirty totally irrelevant political games, blatantly repeating lies, inciting hate in the electorate, destabilizing the markets with his political maneuvers, appointing an extremist running mate who knows NOTHING about the economy and the world a 72-year old heartbeat away from presidency, and dividing the country along choices (guns, race, abortion, religion, left-right) that are totally irrelevant to this new and very threatening environment, and having absolutely no solid plans to get us out of it. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I cannot believe that John McCain is STILL not interested in challenging Obama's plans, and presenting to the American public why his plans are PRACTICALLY superior or relevant to the current environment, or how they are actually DOABLE. He has not explained ow his approach is a significantly different approach to the failures of the last 8 years. His healthcare plan is a farce, taxing my health benefits to give me a healthcare tax credit which will not buy me even a bare bones healthcare plan, his tax plan is unsustainable and rewards those who don't need it, he has absolutely no solid ideas for our recovery plans, he has offered no answers on how he is going to pay for the buyout of these bad loans, is spending freeze of 18 billion will not even come close to paying for his tax cuts AND his $300 billion ideas to pay for his home owner bailout 'plan', and absolutely no transition plan for when he assumes power so he can get to work on day one (he felt winning the election was more important than planning ahead), and shows the underlying influence of special interests in his policy making and his past judgement, and his foreign policy positions have been PROVEN wrong consistently, with his war mongering rhetoric getting increasingly aggressive...and NOW THIS???!!! YOU CAN HIRE EXPERIENCE, AND YOU CAN BUY KNOWLEDGE, BUT IF YOUR MORAL COMPASS IS MISALIGNED YOUR EXPERIENCE IS OF NO USE TO US. Stop telling us you can do it John McCain, TELL US HOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT. It infuriates me the absurdity that this once great man has stooped to. Is he THIS out of touch with reality? We need a serious president, with a steady and even temperament, who is willing to listen to EVERYONE and come up with solutions that work for ALL OF US. We need a president who has the intellect, and the moral compass pointing true north to our interests, who helps the nation focus on what we have in common, not why we are different...we need a president who understands that issues should lie at the foundation of political attacks, not baseless associations focused on dominating the next news cycle. We need someone whose inner circle of influence is not tainted by special interests and lobbists, who has the highest probability of reforming Washington. We need someone who understands the new world order, and who understands that war is but ONE tactic, along with intelligence, diplomatic and economic leverage in our overall strategy to counter our foreign policy challenges today. We need a president who is a calming voice in this cacophony of chaos, who calls out to the best within all of us to lead us out of this hole we've dug ourselves into, not divide us and calls on our hate. We need a President who is a pragmatist, who has been consistent, with judgment that is guided by good nature rather than a thirst for power. We need someone with new ideas, and a new approach to change our course in history. ENOUGH WITH THIS PETTY HATE MONGERING, THE TIMES ARE TOO SERIOUS FOR THIS KIND OF NONSENSE. I DON'T CARE IF HE IS BLACK, BLUE OR PURPLE, AND I DONT CARE IF HE IS PRO OR ANTI ABORTION, OR LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE...I JUST CARE THAT HE IS RIGHT FOR THE CHALLENGES WE NOW FACE. The dirty voter suppression and caging efforts of 2004 and 2000 are very much underway and already making huge impacts across all the swing states, we are now facing the possibility of THOUSANDS of obama voters getting turned away on election day, and the campaigning is only going to get more hateful. Do not believe the polls. Obama may be ahead, but they could steal it again unless we SHOW UP IN FORCE AND GET OUR PAPERWORK STRAIGHT. We cannot let them steal it again.
John Lier McCain = Campaign first, Country Last
judge the candiates on whether they are good for the United States of America and its citizens first, then you can judge them on how good they will be for our friends - not the otherway around!
I heard that John McCain is actually homosexual, his conversion happened while in prison. It is in that respect that he considers himself a Maverick.
Professor Khalidi is a well respected scholar in the US and around the world,
His opinions were sought by several US Administrations and has helped to bring Isrealis and Palestinians together
so if he sometimes critizes Israel, what is the poblem?
so if he wants to support his collegue Mr. Obama who he knew when
they teaching the Univesity of Chicago, what is the problm?
I do not understand.
Just think Obama voters....you will be pulling the same lever/ punching the same ballot card hole/ touching the same name on the computer screen ballot as these fellow backers.
What is it about Obama that appeals to them? THINK!!!!
Obama has received endorsements from:
The Marxist New Party
Democratic Socialists of America (Chicago chapter)
FARC (Terrorist party in Columbia) - they have endorsed Obama because he does not support the Free Trade Agreement with Columbia.
Louis Farrakhan - avowed hater of Israel and calls Judaism a "gutter religion". He hails Obama as the "hope of the entire world!".
Fidel Castro - calling Obama “the most progressive candidate to the U.S. presidency”.
Hamas - Ahmed Yousuf, Hamas’ top political adviser in the Gaza Strip, delivered his endorsement in an interview with WorldNetDaily and WABC Radio in New York. “We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections,” Yousuf said. Hillary Clinton and John McCain have all referred to Hamas as a “terrorist organization,” according to WorldNetDaily.
Hezbollah - Last year Sen. Obama voted against labeling Iran’s elite paramilitary unit, the Revolutionary Guards Corps, a “terrorist organization.” Sen. Obama did not want to designate the Revolutionary Guards – who created Hezbollah, and directly train and arm Hezbollah and Hamas to this day – a terrorist group. The Revolutionary Guards, along with their surrogates, have been involved in some of the most egregious and destructive terrorist activities all across the world since 1979. And since 2003, they’ve killed U.S. forces in Iraq. Sen. Obama voted against calling them “terrorists” – and just several weeks ago, said Hezbollah and Hamas had “legitimate claims.”
Daniel Ortega (Marxist President of Nicaraqua) - "It's not to say that there is already a revolution under way in the U.S. … but yes, they are laying the foundations for a revolutionary change."
Arab American Action Network (AAAN) - The co-founder of the Arab group in question, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and was the PLO's press agency's director while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group. AAAN’s Executive Director is Hatem Abudayyeh, who has condemned "the Israeli government and its military killing machine.” Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board when it gave a total of $75,000 to AAAN.
What will Obama owe these supporters if he's elected president???
Do Americans need any more proof that McCain is just an angry old man with no ideas and no solutions to help the American people? Even many Veterans realize McCain offers nothing but hot air. He will continue the GOP role of rewarding the rich and destroying the middle class.
While Obama surrounds himself with some of the best and brightest, McCain relies on his cronies like P. Gramm, Lieberman and L. Graham. A lot like GW Bush, isn't it?
McCain is working with the very same slimeballs who smeared him while they were working for Bush. He's using the same disgusting, unprincipled tactics that were used against him. I for one am totally sick of the politics of fear and division. I've had it with the hatemongers. No more republicans for me.
The FBI is not stupid, if Obama was involved with terror we would have known this years ago,(I might be mistaken but wasn't he a child then!); also the Hillary people would have said something like that during the time she was running. Can't you see the republicans are doing all they can to not talk about the real issues our country is in. Obama is trying to address this. This is dirty politics and Obama is about helping all races of people. Come on people stop and think. First Obama wasn't experience then came Palin and they stopped talking about experience. Obama was in the senate for years with inside information, Palin was govn. two years in Alaska.
DESPERATE McCAIN .NO NEW IDEAS, NO AGENDA FOR US POOR FOLKS STRUGGLING TO KEEP THE ONE HOME MOST US SHARE WITH THE BANKS.
DESPERATE TIMES REQUIRE DESPERATE MEASURES.
McCAIN THE KEATING KLEPTOMANIAC HAS NOTHING TO OFFER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE - SO TALKS ABOUT NOTHING.McCAIN SAID " I AM AS OLD AS DIRT AND IF YOU LIVE LONG ENOUGH LIKE I HAVE YOU GET TO SEE AND HEAR THINGS YOU NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD."CAN NOT WAIT FOR NOV. 5TH TO FINALLY RETIRE THIS ANGRY OLD MAN AND HIS INDITED FELON OF A RUNNING MATE TO SERVE HER TIME IN ALASKA.
"Check your facts on him - UTube has many videos, as well as many other websites. "
Since when is UTube considered a valid source for facts? You do realize that anyone can post anything on UTube. It has about as much credibility for factual information as the Internet for that matter. Anyone can put up a slanderous website. If that is what you consider "checking the facts" you are beyond redemption. You would be better off buying the grocery store tabloids, at least they try to be entertaining.
We are in so much trouble. If it hasn't hit you or a loved one yet, you are lucky. Time to grow up and recognize what the last eight years has done. If nothing else, look how acceptable it has become to threaten violence at campaign rallies. The Shocking thing is that McCain and Palin are purposefully inciting it. They know better.
It is so sad to see the level McCain has sunk to. Whatever happened to honor.
Stay out of the gutter Obama, this country needs to rise above the ignorant, divisive and ugly politics of the past.
I love it how repubs complain about Obama's judgement and character when Palin/McCain encourage racists remarks to be shouted at their rallies. Palin/McCain has no judgment, morals and apparently no conscience: The awareness of a moral or ethical aspect to one's conduct together with the urge to prefer right over wrong.
For those of us who don't know anything, and buy into the political propaganda in which if you arent a certain race you must be one of them rather than an extended member of one of us. John Mccain Fails to explain his association with one of the biggest economic scandals involving government official. " The Keating five" It wasn't something like the Obama cominig into contact with Ayers at the age of eight. The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly intervening in 1987 on behalf of Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of a regulatory investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB). The FHLBB subsequently backed off taking action against Lincoln.Lincoln Savings and Loan collapsed in 1989, at a cost of over $3 billion to the federal government. Some 23,000 Lincoln bondholders were defrauded and many elderly investors lost their life savings. The substantial political contributions that Keating had made to each of the senators, totalling $1.3 million, attracted considerable public and media attention. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment". so don't tell me john Mccain Character is completely clean niether. how dare him say that social security should invested when he have a record for not doing anything for the economy just like bush
I absolutely love seeing America begin to reject the poisonous propaganda spread by the republican machine and the hateful rantings of the talk radio attack hamsters. I'd been hoping for this moment for years. Better late than never.
McCain wants us to wonder about who Obama really is. I may have my doubts about Barack, but I'm absolutely certain that by his actions in this campaign, John McCain has shown us exactly who he really is. And it ain't a pretty picture. I have no idea how somebody like that can live with himself, unless he's in total denial of reality...you know, like W. We don't need another one of those in power.
"its one thing to talk about someone its another to tell people to get violent and thats what will happen if you get into someones face. The rally write up was on the web but for some reason i can't find it. I was at the rally and he did say it. I was for Obama thinking he was the man tell i heard that."
First of all, no one believes you were for Obama. Second, this incident you are repeating is pure fiction. You can't find a write up on it because it was probably just one more easily disproven lie posted on a website with a radical or racist agenda.
Don't you realize that just because it is on the web, doesn't make it true? Those lies are easily disproven, and then they go away.
Remember the junk circulated about Kerry? Let's see, Heinz was sending jobs overseas (never mind that Kerry or his wife did not, never did have any control over
Heinz)
The accusations over his military record, all disproven, and so blatantly scurilous that the term "Swiftboating" has come to mean dirty politics.
McCain has lost the respect of many former supporters and many Republican party stalwarts. It is a shame, but it is his own doing.
I watched the news showing McCain’s interview on Fox being televised on CNN, FOX, and other networks. In the interview McCain said he wanted Obama to come out with the truth about Ayers so the public can decide. Why isn’t anyone calling out McCain on his hypocrisy on TROOPERGATE? He asks for public truth from Obama, yet he sends his lawyers to Alaska to cover up TROOPERGATE to avoid public scrutiny. Why doesn’t McCain let Palin testify about her TROOPERATE connection so the American Public can decide – the same standard he wants to apply to Obama. Do you smell hypocrisy?
I don’t want to hear this excuse that TROOPERGATE is politically motivated and that the AYERS connection isn’t. Palin was in office as a government official during TROOPERGATE while Obama was eight years old when Ayers did his despicable act. You tell me which has more validity in applying a standard of judgment -- a person governing when the act was being committed or a person who was eight years old when someone else committed the act?
If judgment is what McCain is questioning about Obama, shouldn’t the American pubic question McCain’s judgment for picking a VP that may be using her powers for personal reasons? Sounds like Bush/Chaney tactic to twist the law f to protect them elves and those they surround themselves with. After all, Palin's character could be a heart beat away from the Presidency if McCain is elected. The public deserves the truth by her testifying in front of an INDEPENDENT board, not one she picks. How many middle class citizens you know that would get away with ignoring a subpoena -- hmmm, I guess if you could hire high powered lawyers to put you and your cronnies above the law, you could.
Come on, what are you afraid of McCain, the truth? McCain keeps preaching about transparency in government, but I guess that only applies to others, not himself or those he surrounds himself with.
McCain seems to wear hypocrisy as well as one of his thousand dollar suits. His campaign and campaign tactics looks more and more like the same eight years of Bush scare tactics that middle class come to despise. BUSH SCARE TACTICS MAY OF WORKED FOR THE WAR, BUT IT WON'T WORK FOR THE ECONOMY. WE SWALLOWED THE BUSH SCARE TACTIC PILL BEFORE AND THE ONLY CURE FOR THIS CANCER IS TO PUT IN OFFICE SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T REFLECT BUSH POLICIES WHILE CAMPAIGNING -- WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO BELIEVES THERE IS A BETTER WAY AND THAT SURE ISN'T THE MCCAIN’S HYPOCRISY POLICY THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE ELSE, WHILE HE APPLIES DIFFERENT STANDARDS TO HIMSELF AND THE CRONIES HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH.
BRING IT ON, MCCAIN, AT THE NEXT DEBATE. I DARE YOU!
I suggest that every human being who ever been in contact with Ayers, including the grandma sell newspaper to him, the uncle sweep the road street in front of him, the entire Chicago Uni staff, student and almamater, all of them are to be punished under the conviction of ever in contact with a terrorist.
As the polls stand today...
Election 2008 Obama 49.5% McCain 43.3% RCP Average +6.2%
Currently close to 30% of American's are disillusioned enough to believe that President Bush is doing a good job. Which way do you think these people are leaning in the election? Point... Republican's you already have secured the stupid vote. There is no need to continue with the fear/hatred tactics. Enough of America has awoken and you can not earn enough votes to win.
Unfortunately, McCain's campaign has resorted to a flurry of allegations and personal attacks, instead of focusing on actual policies that will finally move our country in the right direction. McCain, who admits the economy is not his strong suit, is 72 years old, and relies heavily on lobbyists as advisers.
Meaning no disrespect, it is a scientific fact, that as one ages, his performance I.Q. declines. Obama was educated at Columbia and Harvard University. Who do you think has the mental aptitude to fully grasp the complexities of issues a president must face?
I hope middle-class America understands the implications of this election regarding and the impact each candidate's policies will have on their accessibility to good schools, higher education, and healthcare.
Definition of a lobbyist:
A group of persons engaged in trying to influence legislators or other public officials in favor of a specific cause.
The fact that most of John McCain's advisers are lobbyists speaks volumes as to whose best interests his administration would serve.
Here is a list of some of McCain's advisers:
One: Campaign manager Rick Davis is a major telecommunications lobbyist.
Two: Senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann recently faced scrutiny over his foreign lobbying on behalf of the Republic of Georgia, which has been embroiled in a military conflict with Russia.
Three: Senior adviser Charlie Black was a foreign lobbyist for dictators in Zaire and Angola in the 1980s, fodder for the liberal group MoveOn.org.
Four: Frank Donatelli, the Republican National Committee's liaison to the McCain campaign, has had clients including Exxon Mobil.
Five: Economic adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer has lobbied for corporate giants like Koch Industries
The final two lobbyists are McCain's congressional liaison, John Green, and national finance Co-chairman Wayne Berman. They both lobbied for Fannie Mae, the trouble mortgage giant.
-Source: CNN.com
I hope all voters, both Republican and Democrats, focus on the real issues we face, and the candidate's proposed policies, and not the myriad allegations that are meant to distract and incite fear.
Obama True Hypocrat and Liar
Hides his previous connections with Ayers
Disowns Pastor when not needed any more(who know he can disown country too)
Can speak ( as today) but cannot vote against torture
Supporter but not follower of election reforms( words speak louder than action as is always case with Obama)
Supports Hope, Freedom but votes for Spy agencies tapping our Phone
cannot accept Surge Worked , he might be in bad position
Biden a Fool
He thinks Obama is not fit when he runs for president otherwise he is Fit
Obama is naive,has unknown family history
inexperienced like bush was in his first term.
His economic policies will ruin small business,
His health care plan will be a costly affair,
His tax plans would scare investors to other parts of world.
He speaks of alternative energy, opposed to drilling natural gas and building nuclear energy
We consume things at low price because Big corporations get tax cuts their spendign on innovations
If Big companies are taxed heavily , there will lose of jobs , loss of technical edge, higher priced commodities,higher cost of living
Mccain is attacking Root of problem mortegage Obama only wants to attach republicans he has no solid plan.
Obams lack of effectiveness showed up when he responded for russian attach on Georgia and opposition to surge
Mccain all years of experience brings balance and judgement to postion which wasnt there in Bush and Obama due to their in experience,Palen brings freshness of change and executive experience of reforms that she carried in alaska
It is time that people start asking : who is John SMEAR TALK EXPRESS McCain?
Do we want a demanting uncontrolled lunatic with his hands on the trigger of our nuclear arsenal?
With John McCain we will start new wars for no reason untill we are finally bankrupt. What a maverick....
Consider this... Obama holds a 6.2% lead in the national polls. In other words, roughly, 43% of voters plan to vote for him. That said, close to 30% of American's still believe that Bush is doing a good job in office right now. Which way do you think those same 30% plan to vote in this election?
Point: Way to secure the stupid vote Republican's. Fear and hatred may have worked in the past; however, it will not work in this election. You can fool some people all the time. You can fool all people some of the time, (see: last election), but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
When it comes to judgement and country first.....Mccain has a lot to explain.
For the Smear Talk Express, everything seems to be allowed to fullfil his personal dream at the end of his career. No self reflection at all
What does it tell that he chooses Palin whilst knowing that he will probably not ful serve the full 4 years. It shows mccain's judgement: McCain first, Country doesn't matter. Letting US fall into the command of a person not at all fitted to lead and unite the country is smear to America, a sign the country doesnt matters. As long as McCain can get the job and fulfill the dream he wrote about in his book "I will do whatever it takes to achieve that", all is allowed. Thanks John..for the straighttalk!
Its great to see a shiny star in Obama not stoop to the level of McCain.
Amazingly enough, its McCain's own fault that his campaign is sinking faster than the Titanic on her fateful first voyage.
But, thats what you can expect when you hire Rove's cronies and employ a campaign of vitriol and hate.
Kerry Healey lost partly due to her using vicious smears again Duval Patrick. McCain is losing because of the smears against Obama.
Hmmmm, coincidence?
10/17/08
A Question of Barack Obama's Character
By Charles Krauthammer
WASHINGTON -- Convicted felon Tony Rezko. Unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers. And the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. It is hard to think of any presidential candidate before Barack Obama sporting associations with three more execrable characters. Yet let the McCain campaign raise the issue, and the mainstream media begin fulminating about dirty campaigning tinged with racism and McCarthyite guilt by association.
But associations are important. They provide a significant insight into character. They are particularly relevant in relation to a potential president as new, unknown, opaque and self-contained as Obama. With the economy overshadowing everything, it may be too late politically to be raising this issue. But that does not make it, as conventional wisdom holds, in any way illegitimate.
McCain has only himself to blame for the bad timing. He should months ago have begun challenging Obama's associations, before the economic meltdown allowed the Obama campaign (and the mainstream media, which is to say the same thing) to dismiss the charges as an act of desperation by the trailing candidate.
McCain had his chance back in April when the North Carolina Republican Party ran a gubernatorial campaign ad that included the linking of Obama with Jeremiah Wright. The ad was duly denounced by The New York Times and other deep thinkers as racist.
This was patently absurd. Racism is treating people differently and invidiously on the basis of race. Had any white presidential candidate had a close 20-year association with a white preacher overtly spreading race hatred from the pulpit, that candidate would have been not just universally denounced and deemed unfit for office but written out of polite society entirely.
Nonetheless, John McCain in his infinite wisdom, and with his overflowing sense of personal rectitude, joined the braying mob in denouncing that perfectly legitimate ad, saying it had no place in any campaign. In doing so, McCain unilaterally disarmed himself, rendering off-limits Obama's associations, an issue that even Hillary Clinton addressed more than once.
Obama's political career was launched with Ayers giving him a fundraiser in his living room. If a Republican candidate had launched his political career at the home of an abortion-clinic bomber -- even a repentant one -- he would not have been able to run for dogcatcher in Podunk. And Ayers shows no remorse. His only regret is that he "didn't do enough."
Why are these associations important? Do I think Obama is as corrupt as Rezko? Or shares Wright's angry racism or Ayers' unreconstructed 1960s radicalism?
No. But that does not make these associations irrelevant. They tell us two important things about Obama.
First, his cynicism and ruthlessness. He found these men useful, and use them he did. Would you attend a church whose pastor was spreading racial animosity from the pulpit? Would you even shake hands with -- let alone serve on two boards with -- an unrepentant terrorist, whether he bombed U.S. military installations or abortion clinics?
Most Americans would not, on the grounds of sheer indecency. Yet Obama did, if not out of conviction then out of expediency. He was a young man on the make, an unknown outsider working his way into Chicago politics. He played the game with everyone, without qualms and with obvious success.
Obama is not the first politician to rise through a corrupt political machine. But he is one of the rare few to then have the audacity to present himself as a transcendent healer, hovering above and bringing redemption to the "old politics" -- of the kind he had enthusiastically embraced in Chicago in the service of his own ambition.
Second, and even more disturbing than the cynicism, is the window these associations give on Obama's core beliefs. He doesn't share Rev. Wright's poisonous views of race nor Ayers' views, past and present, about the evil that is American society. But Obama clearly did not consider these views beyond the pale. For many years he swam easily and without protest in that fetid pond.
Until now. Today, on the threshold of the presidency, Obama concedes the odiousness of these associations, which is why he has severed them. But for the years in which he sat in Wright's pews and shared common purpose on boards with Ayers, Obama considered them a legitimate, indeed unremarkable, part of social discourse.
Do you? Obama is a man of first-class intellect and first-class temperament. But his character remains highly suspect. There is a difference between temperament and character. Equanimity is a virtue. Tolerance of the obscene is not.
If the McFailin campaign incites the unthinkable with their Fourth Reich rallies, it will make the Watts Riot look like playtime with a purple dinosaur. If the rethuglicans were Americans before they are fascists, they'd recognize how badly they are imperiling what is left of our country. Reasonable Americans can take a loss in a political campaign, but especially under the circumstances we find our nation in today, the unthinkable will burn reason from the minds of the reasonable.
McCain and Palin are traitors to the United States of America. What else could you possibly call those who imperil their nation for their personal gain?
I guess Joe Biden must be in collusion, or maybe he is even MORE secretly a left-wing, closet-Muslim terrorist than Obama. Yep, Obama is really scarey when you consider we have a government whose founders didn't have any notion of checks and balances! If elected, Barack Obama is going to be under more scrutiny than any other new President in history, because of the times we are in and because he would be crossing a threshold that no one other than a white man has crossed before. The cool-headed, even-handed way he has dealt with personal attacks that would have driven a lesser man to strong retaliation is not going unnoticed. I'm sure he knows why the only jersey number displayed in every Major League ballpark is 42.
As far as the great "liberal" media conspiracy, remember who was decried as the darling of the "liberal" media at the start of primary season? It was Senator Clinton. (I think there was even an SNL skit about that!) Clinton brought up these "concerns" about Obama's associations months ago when she was grappling for the nomination. These "concerns" have received plenty of coverage in the "liberal" media . Besides, self-proclaimed truth-tellers and non-spinners like Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Hannity use their DAILY radio or television platforms to hammer on Obama any way they can in their oh so non-partisan fashion. Then they compound the conspiracy theories by telling you that the mainstream "liberal" media is not covering these issues (which it has been, just not with un-apologetic right wing spin and fury). The companies that give those men their forums are pay their salaries ARE "mainstream" media companies and they don't seem to have a problem putting them on the air. If you take the time to find some truly liberal-biased media outlets, you will find that they are also talking about concerning associations in both Palin's and McCain's pasts that are NOT being beaten to death by the mainstream media. Besides, I thought one of the conspiracy theories floated about why the mainstream media is so liberal is because, as some say, "it's run by liberal Jews". Please explain what their motivation would be to ignore any serious evidence that the potential next President is a closet-Muslim with a terrorist agenda. Conspiracy theories . . . gotta love 'em. By the way, as much as some may doubt me, I was undecided but leaning toward McCain before the conventions. The way he has conducted his campaign has been a sobering disappointment to me, and I'm not just talking about the personal attacks.
I have been reading the blogs for several days and have seen a fairly consistent tone. I am an independent and always have been, trying to assess candidates based on the issues and their place in time. We are at one of those pivotal points in our history, a time when our country and the world has come to a crossroad. I believe that as we look back at this time, we will see it as a time when the world fundamentally changed. As I think back historically, this country has been able to weather those times, Revolutionary War, Civil War, The Great Depression and the World Wars, due to leadership with energy and fresh approaches. A leadership that looked pragmatically at the issues that we faced and was able to galvanize a country around the belief that they could and would lead us through the storm.
Until recently, I was not sure who was more capable of the responsibilities and challenges. Both candidates had their strengths. However, as I have listened to and studied the behavior of the candidates over the past 6 weeks, it has become clear that Obama is much more presidential. I have seen McCain focus less and less on leadership and more and more on winning his race. This is a time for a leader to instill confidence, not panic in the face of adversity. This theme is clear from the general public. If you look beyond the venom being spewed by those that are candidate and party driven, you will hear the please of all of us asking for leadership and resolve in taking us forward. No one has all of the answers to these complicated questions, but we are all looking for that person who will stand up and say follow me, I will bring you through this storm, hell or highwater. I hear your voices, I see your pain and I understand your fear. We, however, will persevere. What is on the other side is different than where we are now and we will have to sacrifice to get there, but it can and must be done.
I hear this voice from Obama, I do not hear it from McCain. Obama and McCain are both good me and able leaders, but these are special times. Ask yourselves what worries you most, the future of this world for the children that follow, or justifying your position based on the anger and prejudice you feel. If you believe that McCain is the best option, vote for him because he will lead us through, not because you fear someone different from yourself. Vote for him becasue he provides the right voice, the right direction and the right leadership for these times and not because of the fear that lies in your hearts. Please stop the petty rants and look to the issues and the candidates.
For those that support Obama, realize that he is a man and is not infallible. Turn off the reactionary rhetoric and look to the leader that he is demonstrating himself to be. Support him through actions that are consistent with his; calm, rational, thoughtful behavior. Anger and derision will not change anyones mind.
"Leadership" is a myth.
Too many of you are focused on the top of the pyramid, the President. It takes scholarship, experience, creativity, analysis, co-operation, and more to democratically lead any society. We need a democracy not a republican pyramid with a gold-plated sphincter on the top.
Strict father military types have no place in the modern world. They are dangerous, old, outdated fear mongers. We just watched as an isolated handful of secretive strict father types, lead our brilliant nation to attack Iraq, a country full of innocent men, women and children, tens of thousands of them are now dead. These stupid self-centered "leaders" have driven the economy to the brink of collapse through military spending, deregulation and flat out theft, so they could show the world they could hang one man, who they helped create and no longer needed. They did this to line their pockets and we are left with the bill.
McCain is a militant leader with no particular goals or vision. He simply wants to lead. And that brings us back to the beginning, "Leadership" is a myth.
Vote for the party that thinks out loud, that argues about the issues, that takes its time to make decisions. What you want and how you feel about your life it isn't the point. If you feel afraid and need to seek out and kill the enemy, if that's all you as a voter can see, you aren't qualified to vote. I you're feeling instead of thinking, or researching, (I don't mean the Network news) if you're not learning about the entire world we live in, and its all about how you feel afraid, do us all a favor, don't vote this time around.
The Republican party is composed of a bunch of paranoid sociopaths who only care about themselves. They feel good when Wall Street CEO's take home ten million dollar bonuses or when they can prevent a teenage girl from getting birth control advice.
They are pathetic.
Dumocrats are just angry becuse they know the Rep machine is right.....
MCCAIN WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.... PERIOD....
LIVE WITH IT !!!!
Convicted felon Tony Rezko. Unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers. And the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. It is hard to think of any presidential candidate before Barack Obama sporting associations with three more execrable characters. Yet let the McCain campaign raise the issue, and the mainstream media begin fulminating about dirty campaigning tinged with racism and McCarthyite guilt by association.
But associations are important. They provide a significant insight into character. They are particularly relevant in relation to a potential president as new, unknown, opaque and self-contained as Obama.
Racism is treating people differently and invidiously on the basis of race. Had any white presidential candidate had a close 20-year association with a white preacher overtly spreading race hatred from the pulpit, that candidate would have been not just universally denounced and deemed unfit for office but written out of polite society entirely.
They tell us two important things about Obama.
First, his cynicism and ruthlessness. He found these men useful, and use them he did. Would you attend a church whose pastor was spreading racial animosity from the pulpit? Would you even shake hands with -- let alone serve on two boards with -- an unrepentant terrorist, whether he bombed U.S. military installations or abortion clinics?
Most Americans would not, on the grounds of sheer indecency. Yet Obama did, if not out of conviction then out of expediency. He was a young man on the make, an unknown outsider working his way into Chicago politics. He played the game with everyone, without qualms and with obvious success.
Second, and even more disturbing than the cynicism, is the window these associations give on Obama's core beliefs. He doesn't share Rev. Wright's poisonous views of race nor Ayers' views, past and present, about the evil that is American society. But Obama clearly did not consider these views beyond the pale. For many years he swam easily and without protest in that fetid pond.
Today, on the threshold of the presidency, Obama concedes the odiousness of these associations, which is why he has severed them. But for the years in which he sat in Wright's pews and shared common purpose on boards with Ayers, Obama considered them a legitimate, indeed unremarkable, part of social discourse.
Do you? Obama is a man of first-class intellect and first-class temperament. But his character remains highly suspect. There is a difference between temperament and character. Equanimity is a virtue. Tolerance of the obscene is not.
(the above are excerpts from Charles Krauthammer's article in today's Washington Post.)
Yah, let's Charles Krauthammer, of FAUX news. (And the Repubs complain about liberal media bias)?
This is an excerpt from just one of the many accountings of McCain's "ASSOCIATIONS":
"At one time, John McCain said the worst thing that ever happened to him, Vietnam included, was the so-called Keating 5 scandal. "The Vietnamese," he would say, "didn't question my honor."
Among McCain's earliest benefactors in Arizona was Lincoln Savings and Loan chief Charles Keating Jr., who filled McCain's campaign coffers with more than $100,000 and hosted the McCains multiple times at his vacation home in the Bahamas.
Keating expected his largesse to be rewarded, and when federal regulators began looking into Lincoln's questionable lending practices and investments in the late 1980s, he turned to five senators whose coffers he had lined — Alan Cranston of California, Donald Riegle of Michigan, John Glenn of Ohio and both Arizona senators, Dennis DeConcini and McCain.
McCain attended two meetings with regulators at Keating's request. McCain's view was that he was seeking information on behalf of a constituent who was an important employer in his state. The regulators' view was that they were being pressured to act favorably for Keating.
Lincoln's collapse, the biggest of many savings and loan failures, cost taxpayers $2.6 billion. Keating spent four years in jail, before his sentence was overturned on a technicality, and the Keating 5, as the senators came to be known, lived under an ethical cloud for years.