Round two for McCain, Obama
The Music City mashup is underway.
In the second of three presidential debates, the pressure sits squarely tonight on Republican John McCain, who is faltering in the polls as the economy tanks, and who has bragged that he excels in the town hall set-up.
McCain would seem to need to score some major points against Democrat Barack Obama with only one primetime debate remaining and less than four weeks left until Election Day. It's unclear, however, whether the town hall format -- in which the questions are coming from voters -- will provide the opportunity to continue his campaign's recent character critique of Obama.
On the campaign trail, McCain and his running mate Sarah Palin have been asking who Obama really is and what he truly believes, and citing his ties to William Ayers, who helped start a radical group responsible for a series of bombings of government buildings in the early 1970s. But if the selected voters don't ask those kinds of questions, McCain would have to take a noticeable verbal detour to get there.
Moderator Tom Brokaw, the former NBC news anchor, selected a handful of questions from the 6 million-plus submitted online, and will also choose questioners from among 80 undecided voters, chosen by Gallup and sharing the stage with the candidates at Belmont University in Nashville.
While McCain's campaign has been on the offensive lately, his wife said today that Obama has "waged the dirtiest campaign in American history.” She told the Tennessean newspaper during a visit to a children's hospital that McCain will set the record straight tonight.
"What I have found is that it’s necessary to make sure the American people understand what we have to say, what we stand for as a husband and wife, and what we will do for the American people if we’re lucky enough to be elected,” Cindy McCain said.
The first question is about, of course, the economic meltdown.
Asked about what help older people could expect, Obama used the opportunity to bash the Bush administration's policies. The $700 billion rescue package is only a first step, he said, and now Americans need help with foreclosures and other struggles.
"The middle class needs a rescue package," he said.
McCain used the question to highlight his plan to fix the economy through energy independence, tax cuts, and spending restraint. "We've got to have a package of reforms," he said.
Asked who he would appoint as treasury secretary, McCain mentioned names including former eBay CEO Meg Whitman and billionaire investor Warren Buffet.
Obama named Buffet as well, and made sure to note that he has his support.
Asked what's in the bailout for ordinary Americans, McCain criticized "greed and excess" on Wall Street and noted that he largely suspended his campaign to push for more oversight in the rescue package.
McCain then said that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the mortgage giants that had to be taken over by the federal government, were the catalyst for the meltdown -- and said their failings had been abetted by Obama and his "cronies."
Obama answered that broader deregulation in the financial sector is at fault -- and said that McCain until recently was a champion of deregulation. "I've got to correct a little bit of Senator McCain's history, not surprisingly," he said.
The candidates are walking around the red-carpeted stage, microphones in hand, to answer questions. After barely looking at Obama during their first debate Sept. 26 at the University of Mississippi, McCain is directly addressing him, calling him, "My friend" -- which in McCain's parlance is not a term of endearment.
McCain used a question about skepticism about Washington to rail against Obama. "Let's look at our records and not just our rhetoric," McCain said. "This is the most liberal big-spending record in the Senate."
Obama hit back, saying that McCain is wrong for proposing to continue all of President Bush's tax cuts and to also cut the federal corporate tax rate. That will take money out of the system that is needed for investments in energy independence, healthcare, and education.
A teacher making $35,000 a year has a difficult time tightening their belt when corporate CEOs who make much more are living high on the hog, Obama said.
McCain insisted that Obama wants to raise taxes, including on many small businesses, and compared him to Herbert Hoover for raising taxes during an economic downturn.
"Let's not raise anybody's taxes," McCain said.
Obama disputed McCain's characterization, saying that he wants to cut taxes for anyone making less than $250,000 a year, which covers 95 percent of Americans. He would let Bush's tax cuts lapse in 2010 for taxpayers earning more than that.
"The Straight Talk express lost a wheel on that one," Obama said.
The candidates agreed on the need -- and opportunity for more jobs -- in alternative energy. But McCain put more emphasis on nuclear power, asserting that Obama opposes its expansion.
Obama disputed that, and criticized McCain's record on funding alternative energy.
McCain responded by mentioning an energy bill that included tax breaks for Big Oil, and pointed out that he voted against it. And who voted for it? "That one," he said, motioning toward Obama.
They clashed over healthcare: Obama said McCain would give with one hand with a tax credit, but take away with another by making employer-paid benefits taxable. McCain said Obama would impose fines on families and businesses if they don't provide healthcare.
The first foreign policy question didn't come until an hour into the 90-minute debate.
McCain used it to contrast his experience and judgment in international affairs with Obama's. "He does not understand our international challenges. We don't have time for on-the-job training."
Obama said it's true that he doesn't understand -- why the United States invaded Iraq instead of going after al Qaeda in Afghanistan. By supporting Bush on the war, McCain wasted billions of dollars, Obama said.
Asked by Brokaw when the United States should use military force in a humanitarian crisis when national security is not at stake, Obama said there are times of a moral obligation -- such as the genocide in Rwanda.
"We do have to consider it part of our national interest," he said.
McCain replied that the United States must do whatever it can to prevent genocide, but the president must understand limits.
"You have to temper your decisions," he said.
McCain, citing Teddy Roosevelt, said that he believes in speaking softly and carrying a big stick. Obama, he said, did not do that by saying publicly that US forces should be prepared to go into Pakistan to go after Osama bin Laden.
Obama answered the criticism that he's "green behind the ears" and just spouting off, saying that McCain has repeatedly misrepresented what he said, which was that if there was clear intelligence of bin Laden's whereabouts and Pakistan would not act, US forces should.
He then said that McCain was not a sober statesman when he joked about bombing Iran.
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ALSO NEEDS YOUR VOICE FOR JUSTICE AND REASON ???
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SURELY OUR US CONGRESS & US SUPREME COURT BOTH KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STATE MURDER IN GEORGIA & THE POSSIBLE EXECUTION OF TROY DAVIS IN GEORGIA NEXT WEEK ???
OUR US CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS OF THE FREE WORLD CONTINUE TO DENY MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING POOR AMERICANS PROPER LEGAL REPRESENTATION EVEN THOUGH WRONGFUL EXECUTIONS & FALSE INCARCERATIONS CONTINUE ALL ACROSS AMERICA ???
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WHERE ARE AMERICA'S RELIGIOUS LEADERS ?????????
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LETS ALL HOPE OUR MEDIA FRIENDS CONTINUE TO SHOW AN INTEREST IN REPORTING ON THIS AMERICAN HORROR FACING THESE (TENS OF THOUSANDS) FORGOTTEN AND TRAPPED POORER AMERICANS, AND HOW THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER HANDLES THIS VERY SERIOUS ISSUE FACING AMERICA’S LATINO AND BLACK AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ????
WITH 80% OF THE BLACK AMERICAN VOTERS SAYING THEY SUPPORT SENATOR OBAMA IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IT IS ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW PRIOR BEING ELECTED OUR NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW THIS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TRULY FEELS ABOUT THIS AMERICAN JUDICIAL INJUSTICE CONTINUING TO INFLICT GRAVE HARM ON THE BLACK & LATINO AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE ??????
*** WHEN GOD’S FACE BECAME VERY RED ***
THE US SUPREME COURT GAVE ENEMY COMBATANTS FEDERAL APPEAL HC RIGHTS LAWYERS AND PROPER ACCESS TO US FEDERAL COURTS,AND POORER AMERICANS (MANY EVEN ON DEATH ROW) ARE DENIED PROPER FEDERAL APPEAL LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO OUR US FEDERAL COURTS OF APPEAL, AND ROTTING IN AMERICAN PRISONS NATIONWIDE ?????????
**** INNOCENT AMERICANS ARE DENIED REAL HC RIGHTS WITH THEIR FEDERAL APPEALS !
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****WHEN THE US INNOCENT WERE ABANDONED BY THE GUILTY ****
The prison experts have reported that there are 100,000 innocent Americans currently being falsely imprisoned along with the 2,300,000 total US prison population nationwide.
Since our US Congress has never afforded poor prison inmates federal appeal legal counsel for their federal retrials,they have effectively closed the doors on these tens of thousands of innocent citizens ever being capable of possibly exonerating themselves to regain their freedom through being granted new retrials.
This same exact unjust situation was happening in our Southern States when poor and mostly uneducated Black Americans were being falsely imprisoned for endless decades without the needed educational skills to properly submit their own written federal trial appeals.
This devious and deceptive judicial process of making our poor and innocent prison inmates formulate and write their own federal appeal legal cases for possible retrials on their state criminal cases,is still in effect today even though everyone in our US judicial system knows that without proper legal representation, these tens of thousands of innocent prison inmates will be denied their rightful opportunities of ever being granted new trials from our federal appeal judges!!
Sadly, the true US *legal* Federal Appeal situation that occurs when any of our uneducated American prison inmates are forced to attempt to submit their own written Federal Appeals (from our prisons nationwide) without the assistance of proper legal counsel, is that they all are in reality being denied their legitimate rights for Habeas Corpus with our US FEDERAL COURTS and will win any future Supreme Court Case concerning this injustice!
For our judicial system and our US Congressional Leaders Of The Free World to continue to pretend that this is a real and fair opportunity for our American Middle Class and Working Poor Citizens, only delays the very needed future change of Federal Financing of all these Federal appeals becoming a normal formula of Our American judicial system.
It was not so very long ago that Public Defenders became a Reality in this country.Prior that legal reality taking place, their were also some who thought giving anyone charged with a crime a free lawyer was a waste of taxpayers $$.
This FACADE and HORROR of our Federal Appeal proce$$ is not worthy of the Greatest Country In The World!
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The second presidential debate is now underway. McCain and Palin have worked to question Obama's suitability as president. But, McCain has shielded Palin from the media, leading people to wonder what she stands for and her suitability to be vice-president.
If you want to get better acquainted with Palin, visit the Dailysource's special page on Palin at www.dailysource.org/palin