Young voters boosting Obama

I think you are confusing the "desire to serve" with the desire to join the ranks of the federal, state and local government employees and politicians already feeding at the taxpayer trough.......

young voters .. bah ... everyone who has ever raised a child knows that "young" people make huge mistakes... this is not an election that the nation can afford to have young voters make a blunder by putting a slick, no account ,lying demoncrat in the the whitehouse. the voting age should be raised to 30, then these so called young voters will have some life experience under their belts and be better able to make crucial decisions in life and elections. I know I made huge blunders when I vote as a "young" person. But if these people want a failed community organizer in the position of POTUS then they get waht they paid for.. higher taxes, job loss, and no real solutions, just really good speeches that do nothing but waste O2.

Steve, don't be so cynical;

"I think you are confusing the "desire to serve" with the desire to join the ranks of the federal, state and local government employees and politicians already feeding at the taxpayer trough....... Posted by Steve October 22, 08 03:21 PM"

I see a real desire to "do some good" among many younger folks. It's up to us to help direct that desire for the common good.

Dear Senator Obama;

Could you please help me find these things Sir?

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'Not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available
8. Your Illinois State Senate records -- Not available
9. Law practice client list -- Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
12. Record of your baptism -- Not available

Oh and one more thing Senator, I can't seem to find any articles you published as editor of the Harvard Law Review, or as a Professor at the University of Chicago. Can you explain that to me Sir?

Oh but, hey -- listen! I know you're busy! If this is too much for you right now -- I mean -- tell you what. I'll come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, You know? I mean, I know you're busy. I'll just let myself out. I'll be back tomorrow. And the day after. . .

What's that Senator? Who wants to know these things?

We the People of the United States of America ! You know, the ones who vote!

@ MadcapMagician: Remove head from sphincter THEN type.

Ah Steve you must be so old and bitter to have forgotten the idealism of youth. Must be sad that you either forgot or never had the idea that you can make a difference for your family, friends, and community through volunteer work. But you think to yourself, only they only have their self interest at heart and their sole desire is to work for government. . Really? You think that? Then you are so out of it because most young people have bigger dreams than settling for a government job. People get government job for job security and that's the last thing young people have worry about.

Yes all the soldiers must feeding on the taxpayer trough because they didn't want to serve their country thru military or volunteer work .

MadcapMagician : yes... bush was a success

....this is not an election that the nation can afford to have young voters .......

Yes we can.

Ah Steve you must be so old and bitter to have forgotten the idealism of youth. Must be sad that you either forgot or never had the idea that you can make a difference for your family, friends, and community through volunteer work. But you think to yourself, only they only have their self interest at heart and their sole desire is to work for government. . Really? You think that? Then you are so out of it because most young people have bigger dreams than settling for a government job. People get government job for job security and that's the last thing young people have worry about.

Yes all the soldiers must feeding on the taxpayer trough because they didn't want to serve their country thru military or volunteer work .

I think it's common knowledge that young voters have been a major support group for Obama. It's also common knowledge that the more educated lean toward him too.

@Madcap Magician

Yeah like how the old people who voted for Bush didn't make a huge mistake.

Sigh... do you want to know the blunder? ... choosing Sarah Palin as your VP. they had to of known she was a dumb@$$ before they chose her. Technically my party affilliation lies closest with the Democrats (ova on the left), but I was going to vote for McCain because I thought that Obama was an under-experienced lying arsehole. Obama won my vote in the end b/c of the Republicans retarded choice of VP.

I think it's common knowledge that young voters have been a major support group for Obama. It's also common knowledge that the more educated lean toward him too.

Socialism, communism, government in every aspect of your life. Ronald Regan once asked our Nemesis to Tear Down That Wall. Why don't we just all quit working and get a government handout? What happened to individual responsibility?

"job loss" are you serious? how many jobs were lost in the last 8yrs compared to the clinton yrs.

You kids get out of my yard! I know your daddy!

Yeah Madcap, why don't we just exclude non-land owners, those without college degrees, making less than 100,000 a year, and it would surely be sown up for Republicans then!

Millions of older Americans voted for George W. Bush. It seems they can make huge mistakes too.

Right, degrade the youth who can't do anything because the so called "EXPERIENCED" leaders that we have today have done such a wonderful job of leading this country.

Reading the last two comments remind me of who is young, and who is immature.

The elderly were so wise in picking Bush for 2 years straight. They obviously know what is good for the country.

MadcapMagician:
I resent the fact that you feel young votes are not legitimate citizens in that they should not enjoy the privilege to vote. THIER future is at stake, not John McCain's. The youth are the biggest part of the population seeking education, thinking about starting families, and deciding on how they want to contribute to society. This election is critical for them, as it is for all of us. They have every right to vote, and I am proud of the droves of students who have registered in record numbers this year. You should be ashamed to say such things. You are clearly a conservative afraid of seeing his party crumble. Well, sir, it is them who created the mess that is leading to their demise in this next term. Hopefully from the ashes a renewed party with more thoughtful and selfless ideals will arise so that all parties can represent their constituents fairly in the future.

Uninformed voters ... bah. There are way too many uninformed voters. Unless you can pass a simple test about world history, geography and economics, you should not be involved in the electorial process. Such a test would likely eliminate most of the 25% of the population that still support George Bush. Poll tests have a very ugly history, but it is interesting to think about what it would do to elections in the US. perhaps prospective voters would study up before voting.

Some of those new young voters might do very well on a poll test--better than many of their elders.

Madcap - at least young voters are able to vote for THEIR future. Nowadays, they are more politically astute and aware of what's happening in this world and thereby motivated than the days you were going to school.

Considering that the human brain does not fully develop until about 25-years of age (journalists' brains never truly develop), the fact that young Americans gravitate towards Obama shows the mentality of the people drawn to him. Obama is a friend to the terrorists, cop-killers and other miscreants

Madcap, you might want to stop and think that the majority of young, educated voters (who tend to support Obama and his policies) actually watch the debates and read about the issues at hand. Instead of blasting young people as ignorant and continuing to believe in trickle-down economic theories that didn't work under Reagan and once again didn't work under Bush, why don't you try actually reading about the the candidates actually stand for? And while you're at it, allow the younger generation a chance to have their voices heard without being blasted for being young. Life experiences do not necessarily mean wise choices.

At the same time, you're also saying that the majority of our soldiers shouldn't be allowed to vote...so we can go fight for our nation but we can't have say regarding the person who makes the ultimate decisions regarding our army? Yeah, sure. Try learning about the way government works BEFORE you continue to make biased statements.

I would trust my 11 year old daughter to vote on the issues more than some of the racist bigots that have the right to vote merely because they are of age. I have never personally seen such hate as I have on the blogs and at the McCain/Palin rallies. At least when she has a question about something she asks for the facts or googles it herself. Thank God for the young people that will slowly chip away at our institutional racism that pervades the country presently.

Madcap-
I'm sorry that you made poor decisions in your youth, but many "young people" are very well informed and conscientious. Misguided voting is not only a fault among the young, but it pervades the old as well. I have many young friends voting--some for McCain, some for Obama. Many of them are more intelligent and better informed than their own parents!

MadcapMagician,
You still want them to be able to die for you in a ridiculous war at the age of 18?

"only enough for fighting and dying, but not for voting" good call. Madcap...you obviously were too young to see violence of the 60's over thoughts like that. As a former marine '69-72, I think young people have every right to vote. And they obviously show more intelligence then you.

I agree with the comment that the voting age should be raised to 30. It was probably those damned, inexperienced young people who elected George Bush. I've also noticed that women make a lot of mistakes. They probably shouldn't be allowed to vote. And I think it would be best if our 30-and-older male voters were landowners.

So it's okay for young people (those under 30 according to Mr. MadcapMagician) to go die for their country, but it's not okay for them to help decide who the person is that will be sending them to die.

When I hear comments like these, I fear for all of us.

MadcapMagician - I don't think I understand how you can be so convinced that "young people" are the ones making "huge mistakes" here; seems to me that all of the biggest, most politically charged mistakes that have been made over the last eight years haven't been made by us at all. Do not make the mistake of comparing your personal "blunders" when you were young with a modern young American voter, who has more easily accessible information on ANY side of the political fence at his or her disposal than voters even half a decade ago would have.

If you are frightened by the power that informed young voters hold this election, remember that we are YOUR Frankenstein's monster here; maybe if the Republican Party (not to mention the Bush administration itself) didn't almost singlehandedly ruin our entire economic and social future over the last eight years, we'd have a bit more faith and wouldn't be so deeply disenfranchised with your negligence. WE'RE the ones who will be cleaning up the mess over the next few decades, while you will be leeching off of our taxes.

I really think congress and senate needs to take a good look at Obama. Who doesn't salutes the Amercian Flag and hasn't talk about supporting marriage between a man and women. God create Adam and Eve, he did not create Adam and Steve. We need to clean all the Junk in this country and Make America One Nation Under God. I'm a foreigner and I respect the values and salute the American with the respect and dignity and also proud to be apart of this country who has open the doors for me. I think Obama disrespects all Americans and foreigners that respects this country. God Bless America. Amen.

re: MadcapMagician

I am a 29 year old married women with a 19 month old daughter, and I resent your comment about raising the voting age to 30! You think I don't have enough "life experiences" to vote for the correct candidate? I voted for Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004 and you better believe I'm voting Obama in 2008. I know enough about our goverment and our economy to see that the last 8 years has been a complete waste of time by the GOP, and I can't wait to see that seat filled with someone who can actually make a difference. Excuse me for not wanting to vote for someone almost as old as dirt, with the potential for the office to be filled by a Caribou barbie, in the event that he passes away in office.

The young voters have a greater stake in this election. It's their future. They and their children will have to pay for the excesses of the current administration and they don't want McPalin making it worse.

I find it utterly amazing that some people don't see the writing on the wall. They can only talk down about Obama, and yet offer no solutions of their own in the form of Mccain. If you haven't noticed, there are no Mccain ads or even speeches, it seems, that highlight what HE'S going to do as president. It's not about experience or lack there of, it's about judgment. Obama has plenty of it, and the steady nerves and demeanor to carry our nation back to its former place of respect in the world community. This gut feeling, unilateralism and snap decisions that change from day to day, will not get us anywhere but deeper in the hole. The Obama campaign has been the best, most positively run campaign. The new Government will be the same!

Madcap - at least young voters are able to vote for THEIR future. Nowadays, they are more politically astute and aware of what's happening in this world and thereby motivated than the days you were going to school.

Hopefully as a Canadian I can throw my 2 cents worth in...the best senario is to have high profiled, high experienced and perhaps older people in the White House. No matter who gets the green light in November...there will be the lack of experience on that party.
Question: To suit or not to suit....Barrack Obama wins hands down...
Sarah Palin...should relax and wear a pair of smart pants. After all you have to fill in a man's shoes....now that's just nasty.

Young people are the future and by voting Obama they're showing that they understand the issues facing America (and the world) in the 21st century. It's definitely a good sign. The old order has got to go. Like they used to say: Don't trust anybody over 30!

To Commenters 1 and 2: Fortunately, there are fewer and fewer of you negative, lying opinions being posted anywhere these days. Get used to it: The white man's getting taken behind the woodshed this time.

I would trust my 11 year old daughter to vote on the issues more than some of the racist bigots that have the right to vote merely because they are of age. I have never personally seen such hate as I have on the blogs and at the McCain/Palin rallies. At least when she has a question about something she asks for the facts or googles it herself. Thank God for the young people that will slowly chip away at our institutional racism that pervades the country presently.

If you all want to take away the youth's "RIGHTS" to vote etc. How about you stop sending them to war and collecting taxes from them. Then we can talk.

I am studying youth engagement as part of my dissertation work, and I am unimpressed with people that stereotype young people. I have found that many young people are engaging in public service in ways nearly unheard of from previous generations. Given that young people are connected to eacother more than ever, I anticipate that the increase in voluntary work and civic engagement will continue. Obama has made a connection with the young voters in ways that previous presidents have, the difference here is that the level of activism is not as apparent to the average Joe. We are too often saddled with stereotypes that young people are not capable of make good choices or that they make poor choices. I seems more likely that each age groups has its share of people make poor choices.

Let's be more supportive of future American leaders by eliminating the negative stereotype of youth apathy.

Ah, yes madcap, your comment reflects well the stereotypical republican persona. Precisley why Change is most certainly in order. I was considering voting for McCain, however due to the addition of Palin to the ticket and the postings of her followers (thank you), I have become increasingly aware of the desparate need for Change. Young people are voting in record numbers because it is their futures at stake and they are paying attention this time.

That you Jim Kouri, head of the "National Association of Chiefs of Police. " Ah that would explain the knee-jerk reaction to call him friend to cop-killers. You mistake friend for associate I'm afraid. If we are going to use the standard you use, then I suppose Mccain is also friend to terrorists. The Annenberg foundation was the sponsor of the group that both Obama and Ayers were in. Annenberg was a friend to Reagan, and even ambassador to him. You have nothing to say about MCcain's qualifications, do you? That's because you know he's just a man with a daddy complex, trying to out-rank his dad and grandad, but no idea what to do with the power when he gets it. Can you say Keating 5?

Madcap - you sound like a bitter old person...relax....if there's one thing you should've learnt from McCain by now, it's that being crazy, erratic and angry is not very flattering...which is yet another reason Obama is likely to be a far better president than McCain...unlike McCain, Obama can control his emotions, and react in a calm, well-thought-out manner. This is very VERY important for a president...

madcap, how ignorant can you be? i'm sorry your children have you as a role model.

Young voters are the future of this country. That is the reason they are supporting Obama. They want someone that is educated in the white house. Someone who understands the needs of the middle class. If you make $250,000 then I guess you are for Mccain, and if you are making less and voting for him your just stupid.
He is a lier! He used $150,000 for Palin's makeup hair and clothes(your tax money). Is that how there gonna shake up the white house. I don't call that reforming government. I call it more of the same.

Having worked with some of these young voters as volunteers on the Obama campaign trail, it is a good feeling knowing the next generations care about their future. We're leaving a legacy I am not very proud of.

The voting age should be raised to 30....really? Why don't we make the legal drinking age 33 as well. Hell, while we are at it, let's change the age that "young" people technically become adults to 30 as well. Then they can continue to live under their parents' supervision until they hit 30. Parents would even get a tax break just like they do now for children under 18 (or 24 if your kid goes to college). And where would we be then? Right where we are now. Part of the deal of becoming an "adult" at 18 is being able to vote, go to jail, serve in the military, make mistakes, etc. You said that you made mistakes as well. How would your opinion be different now if you had not voted until you were 30? You might have a different outlook on life.

The youth of this nation are tired of the ruling class flushing our collective future down the toilet. We know we can't count on the old guard, with its supposedly superior "life experience," because all they've shown that they are capable of is sticking us with trillions of dollars of debt. You aren't the ones stuck with that burden that you yourself created; we are. We love this country too much to leave its future in your inept hands any longer. Is Obama perfect? No, but he has the ability to polish America's tarnished reputation abroad, and stands as a symbol of hope - a stark contrast to the abysmal shadows of "leadership" over the last eight years.

Some of the many young voters make bad desicions.. some young voters are making bad decisions right now after they elect to choose Sen. Obama Hussain as a president over Mccain. These young voters do favour Muslims so much.. as per i know.. but they want to favour Obama Hussain as a president of UNITED STATES.. thts a reallly bad bad worst desicion.. like Mccain I also serve for the United States of AMerica.. I am a American be an American and vote.. dont make the wrong desicion of electing Obama as president... Go Mccain... and God give brains to these young lads.

Yes - and "old" voters tend to have a closed mind and are less receptive to new ideas and change, even if would benefit them in the long run.
Age and experience do not mean you no longer make mistakes, it simply means you make different mistakes.
So, if we're going to talk about raising the voting age to 30, let's cap it at 55 while we're at it.
You see how this works both ways?

Personally, I cannot bring myself to vote for either candidate.

I am afraid those who believe in Obama are going to be very disappointed. Very loudly I hear both candidates weasel words when they speak.

Obama, is not who he portrays himself to be.

If the world is ‘so’ inclined to test Obama (as they did Kennedy) then are all those internationals who favor Obama just want a weak US (wake up Libby-0’Libs) !!!
Maybe so they can gain economic advantage themselves.

Since so many have compared Obama to Kennedy is this just a supposedly updated version of “Camelot” (and the fantasy that turned out to be !!). Does that mean young people just like a young president, and are in total denial of the inexperience question. He is young & cute and probably likes to party (or so they would like to think). We can have ourselves a, supposedly, young, hip party pres……………no matter the in-experience.

“Partea On”

Has anyone ever considered that people partial to excluding others due to their age, gender, or other traits are too caught up in their perspective that they forget that the election is meant for the whole, and not for the select few? One would think that the US as a nation has progressed to a time of inclusion and diversity that this type of narrow minded thinking (dare I say prejudiced) would no longer exist, but I suppose this is why I have chosen to vote in this election.

The young, on the road to learn a very hard lesson at all our expense!

Life experience will show these youngsters that a smooth talker, slick willy such as Obama offers only pain! This is how they will learn that you cannot believe what a politician says, you must look at their record!

You can't CHANGE the system when you have never even stood up to the system!

This NoBama dude is simply a Democratic Party puppet, and this will be a most unfortunate lesson for the country. Media sound bites and media headlines don't always represent the middle ground, if ever....

Older does not make us wiser, more educated or seasoned in areas of local and world news, the economy, finances, the environment, terrorism and war, etc. What age really does more often than not is make us more set in our ways, uncompromisingly stubborn and critical in our perspective on life, society and people in general. My work, as a 40 something, involves daily interactions with university students with from all over this country and others from all walks of life who are reminders to me that when I was their age, my world view and inner-circle comrades were very limited in our understanding of political issues and life in general. What I see in them are intelligent, mindful, motivated, fun, altruistic, creative people with a broad understanding of world views and issues than we give them credit for.

Let’s not put down the younger generation thinking we are wiser and that just because the majority of them are voting the other way means they are less intellectual, uncaring or dumb and blind to what is going on around us. It is not the number of our years that makes us wiser, it’s the ability to open our eyes and ears and God forbid, possibly listen to what they may have to teach us in these less than innocent years and times in which we live.

To today's youth: I am SO GD PROUD of you! YOU are our future and the future is now. Bring change for the better, for you, for all of us (even if too many of us are blind to the need for change...) YOU give me Hope. Thank you in advance.

I hope people aren't saying that a 20 year old soldier who has volunteered to fight for this country shouldn't have the right to vote because they don't have enough "life experience." I would hope that we would give that person the decency and respect to vote as a citizen of the United States. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time, young and old. The real question is, are we going to learn from those mistakes.

Obama no longer plans to meet unconditionally with Iran’s ‘so called ‘ President. Also, Obama apparently now claims he will not allow Iran to become a tyrant nation with Nuclear Weapons. When McCain said the same he was called a war mongerer. So what is up: The media is playing their ‘usual games’, as usual !!

Are young people in denial about this issues ??!!

Chill... I'm voting for Obama anyways.

Madcap, you're a shameless instigator aren't you? ;-)

---He is Tall, Elegant, Eloquent, and ‘Oh’ so much “Style over Substance”.

Do we need a “Style over Substance” President !!!

Then again he was not so Tall, Elegant, Eloquent in the first half of the Demi-Dem primary. When the Liberal Media was ‘Fawning’ over Hillary he was Angry, Accusational, Stumbling over his Words, and Brushing chips off his Shoulders. When the Media switched it’s “Fawning Gaze” to Obama he seemed Taller and his ‘Style over Substance’ clicked more. Was that because he knew the Media and Hollywood had his back !! Many would say it is easy to look Tall, Elegant & Eloquent when you know all of your mistakes will be explained away, ignored or covered up (he once said he had visited all 57 states). Anyone could look competent under that scenario………..

If as president he is in tough, ‘behind the scenes’ negotiations will “Style over Substance” cut it then. Will the media be able to help him out of a tough jam then !!! How will they rescue, or cover up for him then !!! Will he be able to stand on his own two feet then………….

Do we Want; Do we Need a ‘Style over Substance’, MEDIA INDUCED PRESIDENT

---Are we about to elect our first MEDIA INDUCED PRESIDENT!

The media has favored (fawned over) Obama to an unprecedented level:

-‘Skunk Man’ Jay Leno’s and ‘Snag Headed’ David Letterman’s non-stop jokes about McCain and few if any about Obama!! (I would tell Letterman where to go, Bluntly & Directly)

-The Saturday Night Live Crap-Crowd & Tina Feign’s non-stop incriminations (which poles have shown indoctrinate feeble minds).

-CNN and the rest of the liberal media ‘fawning’ over Obama in such blatant fashion.

-Hollywood entertainment type programs showing their bias for Obama, very blatantly.
(like: Ellen ‘Degenerant’ & Barbara WaWa on The ‘Bitch’ View)

-The Oliver Stone movie “W”. A genuine Docu-Drama (a license to Lie) from one of Hollywood’s most ‘Irresponsible’ directors.

- Matt the ‘bitch boy’ Damon & Keith ‘GoOfy’ Olbermannn !!

(Do we need any more proof of a Liberal, ‘Bigoted’ Media!!!)

ETC., ETC., ETC.

Is the Media Helping Obama to steal an election!!!

Whoever you vote for, you will be personally responsible for whatever they do in office if they win. If worse comes to worst, we could end up in another great depression and you could end up hanging from a street light in the middle of a second American civil war.

I am a young voter and I've always vote Libertarian so you can't blame me for anything. :-)

Looks like I'll be doing it again this year. Bob Barr and Wayne Allen Root for President and Vice president, respectively!

http://www.bobbarr2008/root/

THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE THE FUTURE SO ALLOW THEM TO VOTE AND TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THEMSELVES BECAUSE THE OLDER GENERATION IS STUCK IN THE 70'S AND 80'S AND THE 20TH CENTURY. IT'S THEIR FUTURE THEY HAVE A SAY IN IT. IF CLINTON IS BACKING OBAMA THEN HE HAS MY VOTE . GO YOUNG PEOPLE ITS YOUR LIFE YOU DECIDE. SO MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SO WE HAVE TO CHANGE WITH IT. NOTHING IS LIKE IT USE TO BE FROM GAS TO FOOD, TAXES AND INSURANCE AND WE OWE IT ALL TO BUSH.

LOL @ madcap -
"then these so called young voters will have some life experience under their belts and be better able to make crucial decisions in life and elections" - note that McCain, an old geezer, with enough (if not too much) life experiance couldn't even make a good decision in his selection of VP!!

I see you all have not lost your fight :

GOOD! Because we have a lot to do. You! (the American people) are going to have to take back control of your elected government at every level, and set your government back on the right path of service to you, and the greater good of the World.

Barack Obama and the democrats are your best hope of doing that now. Tell your family, friends, and everyone you know to support them as best they can. Because the Bush McCain vote fraud, vote cheating, vote buying, vote manipulation machine is already hard at work to cheat you again. And we all know what a disaster that has been the past 8 years of Bush McCain.

Barack Obama and the democrats will need all the power you can give them at every level of government (Federal, State, County, and local City elected governments). Obama and the democrats will have an enormous mess to fix for the American people, and the rest of the World. A mess caused by the corrupt Bush McCain administration.

You see, starting back in 2000, and before 911, it was mostly the Republican governors, Republican legislatures, and county elected Republican officials that conspired with the corrupt Bush McCain administration to raise college, and university tuitions by the fastest, and highest rate increases in American history. Some state tuitions went up by as much as a WHOPPING! 30% in one year.

The reason the Bush McCain administration did this was to force struggling working class kids into the military to pay for the sudden jump in tuition. Which was forced on them by the corrupt Bush McCain administration, and their corrupt Republican Governors, and republican controlled state legislatures.

See, Bush McCain had plans to get us into all these immoral, foolish, criminal, and unnecessary wars from the start. So they could use these wars to seize power, and later to get reelected. But, for their evil plan to work they needed more volunteer soldiers struggling to pay for an education whose blood they could spill to help them seize more power. Remember Bush McCain's "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" theatrics.

The exploitation, and lost lives of these finest Americans is despicable, disgusting, immoral, corrupt and criminal. And it makes me SICK, and ANGRY!

You will have to vote for Obama, and the democrats in overwhelming numbers to overcome the Bush McCain vote fraud machine. Vote early if you can. Then help your fellow Americans cast their votes now, and on through election day. Vote for Obama, and the democrats like your life, and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. Because it does. You will not survive 4 more years of "Let Them Eat Cake" Bush McCain, and their republican allies.

Just look at the mess we have now.

You can fix this mess with your votes for Obama, and the democrats. And REMEMBER, no matter which of us may stumble or fall, the rest of you must continue to surge forward for Barack Obama, and the democrats, and for your-selves most of all. The children, and the World are counting on us.

It's in your hands now. And I know you will get it done.

God bless all of you.

JACK SMITH - WORKING CLASS... :-)

US election: Republican operative faces voter registration fraud
charges

Accusations come on the heels of Republican John McCain's fraud attacks against community organisation Acorn
Elana Schor in Washington guardian.co.uk, Wednesday October 22 2008

While John McCain has attacked the liberal US community group Acorn for alleged voter registration fraud, the Republican party continues to employ operatives facing fraud accusations including one who faces criminal perjury charges.

Democrats are accusing McCain of hypocrisy after the weekend arrest of Mark Jacoby, a California Republican operative. Jacoby has been accused of voter registration fraud after registering himself to vote at two homes where he did not live.

The arrest comes after McCain and running mate Sarah Palin attempted to tie Barack Obama's campaign to Acorn, playing up a federal investigation of the group's voter registration tactics in several states.

"Over the past few weeks we've heard John McCain denounce voter fraud on the campaign trail while the [Republican party] hurls false attacks, so the question is: where is the outrage now?" Democratic spokesman Karen Finney asked yesterday.

Jacoby is the second Republican operative revealed this week to possess a questionable record on voter registration. Nathan Sproul – who has been investigated by Congress for allegedly destroying voter registration forms and intimidating voters – got paid $175,000 by the McCain camp this year.

"The Republicans [and] the McCain campaign have been hammering away for weeks with the same old Washington politics," Democratic party lawyer Joe Sandler said in a statement.

"In fact, none of the charges that they've been talking about have actually panned out."

Democrats called on McCain to cut his ties to both voter-registration operatives, citing frequent Republican attacks on Acorn. Obama represented Acorn as an attorney years before beginning his political career, and the group has endorsed him this year, but his camp has denied any link to Acorn's voter-registration activities.

The California Republican party told a local newspaper yesterday that their contract with Jacoby ended this week, after the state's voter registration period expired. No announcement has been made about the renewal of the contract.

Hey, you people shouldn't be dissing young voters. They aren't STUPID. These are the people who will be most affected by a change in abortion laws and a military draft. If they are old enough to get sent to Iraq and blown to pieces, they are certainly old enough to have a say in their own fate. They have every right to be concerned and they will come out in DROVES to shut down a possible McCain/Palin win.

And just THINK! All the kids who are only 14 years old this year? THEY will be voting in the next presidential election.

I am very tired of Republicans. They all seem to be either foaming at the mouth crazy people, or those thatw ant to pull the wool over our eyes. They want to cheat and game the system, lie and cheat. They have no scruples, and no actual value structure. They think most parts of our system are wrong. Tax dollars are socialism (who fixes the interstates, how do you keep jets from crashing into each other?), and even though Palin and McCain openly have met with anti-American crazy people, they dwell on associations of Obama's so old and meaningless.

They thrive on stuipid nonsense like Joe the Plumber; Palin can't hold a legitimate interview because her grasp on English makes Babelfish translations make sense in comparison.

oh, why bother, irrational people can't understand rational reasoning. RAve on, imbeciles.

YES, no young Americans shd be allowed to vote--only those over 30. And only those over 30 shd be made to serve in the military--the young ones are too young for the honor of dying for Bush. And only those over 30 should pay income tax--that is a serious responsibility. Don't trust anyone under 30. Their ideas, inventions, start-up companies (think Bill Gates and the Google people who were all under 30 when they started! Too young!) should be thrown out of our America and only let in AFTER they turn 30. Let them go to Canada.

The world needs McCain to destroy USA and separate
them and form a revolution. yes go on!!!! McCain-Palin.
If McCain dies, better yet, Palin top model is going to give her ass for oil.
she's going to the war against every body , the same bush republican party family business bla,bla, off the same not , moreeeeee!!!!!!!

I would far prefer to have someone young and with new fresh idea's, than one who life experiences has made them too bitter and inflexible.

Fred... You are tired of Republicans, but Democrats thrive on stupid nonsense just as much if not more than Republicans. McCain used Joe the Plumber as an example of Americans in similar situations which is perfectly legit. What does the liberal media do? Dig up any dirt they can find on Joe. Stupid nonsense.

Tax dollars are not socialism, spreading the wealth around is. I am not opposed to social programs to help people get back on their feet if they need it, but how many programs are abused? How many people do you think have bank accounts in their parents name because if the government found out they had a couple thousand dollars they would cut their assistance?

Obama supporters accuse McCain supporters of being racists. How many people who know nothing about politics are voting for Obama because they want to see a black president? I don't doubt that a lot of white people will not vote for Obama because he is black, but although they won't admit it I would be willing to bet that a higher percentage of minorities will vote for Obama because of this fantasy of a black president. Skin color shouldn't matter... remember?

John McCain -- "I voted with the President over 90% of the time, more than my Republican colleagues."

Letter to Obama from Cory the Driller:

"Mr. Obama,
Given the uproar about the simple question asked you by Joe the plumber, and the persecution that has been heaped on him because he dared to question you, I find myself motivated to say a few things to you myself. While Joe aspires to start a business someday, I already have started not one, but 4 businesses. But first, let me introduce myself. You can call me "Cory the well driller". I am a 54 year old high school graduate. I didn't go to college like you, I was too ready to go "conquer the world" when I finished high school. 25 years ago at age 29, I started my own water well drilling business at a time when the economy here in East Texas was in a tailspin from the crash of the early 80's oil boom. I didn't get any help from the government, nor did I look for any. I borrowed what I could from my sister, my uncle, and even the pawn shop and managed to scrape together a homemade drill rig and a few tools to do my first job. My businesses did not start as a result of privilege. They are the result of my personal drive, personal ambition, self discipline, self reliance, and a determination to treat my customers fairly. From the very start my business provided one other (than myself) East Texan a full time job. I couldn't afford a backhoe the first few years (something every well drilling business had), so I and my helper had to dig the mud pits that are necessary for each and every job with hand shovels. I had to use my 10 year old, 1/2 ton pickup truck for my water tank truck (normally a job for at least a 2 ton truck).
A year and a half after I started the business, I scraped together a 20% down payment to get a modest bank loan and bought a (28 year) old, worn out, slightly bigger drilling rig to allow me to drill the deeper water wells in my area. I spent the next few years drilling wells with the rig while simultaneously rebuilding it between jobs. Through these years I never knew from one month to the next if I would have any work or be able to pay the bills. I got behind on my income taxes one year, and spent the next two years paying that back (with penalty and interest) while keeping up with ongoing taxes. I got behind on my water well supply bill 2 different years (way behind the second time... $80,000.00), and spent over a year paying it back (each time) while continuing to pay for ongoing supplies C.O.D.. Of course, the personal stress endured through these experiences and years is hard to measure. I do have a stent in my heart now to memorialize it all.
I spent the next 10 years developing the reputation for being the most competent and most honest water well driller in East Texas. 2 years along the way, I hired another full time employee for the drilling business so that we could provide full time water well pump service as well as the well drilling. Also, 3 years along the path, I bought a water well screen service machine from a friend, starting business # 2. 5 years later I made a business loan for $100,000.00 to build a new, higher production, computer controlled screen service machine. I had designed the machine myself, and it didn't work out for 3 years so I had to make the loan payments without the benefit of any added income from the new machine. No government program was there to help me with the payments, or to help me sleep at night as I lay awake wondering how I would solve my machine problems or pay my bills. Finally, after 3 years, I got the screen machine working properly, and that provided another full time job for an East Texan in the screen service business.
2 years after that, I made another business loan, this time for $250,000.00, to buy another used drilling rig and all the support equipment needed to run another, larger, drill rig. This provided another 2 full time jobs for East Texans. Again, I spent a couple of years not knowing if I had made a smart move, or a move that would bankrupt me. For the third time in 13 years, I had placed everything I owned on the line, risking everything, in order to build a business.
A couple of years into this, I came up with a bright idea for a new kind of mud pump, a fundamentally necessary pump used on water well drill rigs. I spent my entire life savings to date (just $30,000.00), building a prototype of the pump and took it to the national water well convention to show it off. Customers immediately started coming out of the woodworks to buy the pumps, but there was a problem. I had depleted my assets making the prototype, and nobody would make me a business loan to start production of the new pumps. With several deposits for pump orders in hand, and nowhere to go, I finally started applying for as many credit card as I could find and took cash withdrawals on these cards to the tune of over $150,000.00 (including modest loans from my dear sister and brother), to get this 3rd business going.
Yes, once again, I had everything hanging over the line in an effort to start another business. I had never manufactured anything, and I had to design and bring into production a complex hydraulic machine from an untested prototype to a reliable production model (in six months). How many nights I lay awake wondering if I had just made the paramount mistake of my life I cannot tell you, but there were plenty. I managed to get the pumps into production, which immediately created another 2 full time jobs in East Texas. Some of the models in the first year suffered from quality issues due to the poor workmanship of one of my key suppliers, so I and an employee (another East Texan employed) had to drive across the country to repair customers' pumps, practically from coast to coast. I stood behind the product, and made payments to all the credit cards that had financed me (and my brother and sister). I spent the next 5 years improving and refining the product, building a reputation for the pump and the company, working to get the pump into drill rig manufacturers' product lines, and paying back credit cards. During all this time I continued to manage a growing water well business that was now operating 3 drill rig crews, and 2 well service crews. Also, the screen service business continued to grow. No government programs were there to help me, Mr. Obama, but that's ok, I didn't expect any, nor did I want any. I was too busy fighting to make success happen to sit around waiting for the government to help me.
Now, we have been manufacturing the mud pumps for 7 years, my combined businesses employ 32 full time employees, and distribute $5,000,000.00 annually through the local economy. Now, just 4 months ago I borrowed $1,254,000.00, purchasing computer controlled machining equipment to start my 4th business, a production machine shop. The machine shop will serve the mud pump company so that we can better manufacture our pumps that are being shipped worldwide. Of course, the machine shop will also do work for outside companies as well. This has already produced 2 more full time jobs, and 2 more should develop out of it in the next few months. This should work out, but if it doesn't it will be because you, and the other professional politicians like yourself, will have destroyed our countrys’ (and the world) economy with your meddling with mortgage loan programs through your liberal manipulation and intimidation of loaning institutions to make sure that unqualified borrowers could get mortgages. You see, at the very time when I couldn't get a business loan to get my mud pumps into production, you were working with Acorn and the Community Reinvestment Act programs to make sure that unqualified borrowers could buy homes with no down payment, and even no credit or worse yet, bad credit. Even the infamous, liberal, Ninja loans (No Income, No Job or Assets). While these unqualified borrowers were enjoying unrealistically low interest rates, I was paying 22% to 24% interest on the credit cards that I had used to provide me the funds for the mud pump business that has created jobs for more East Texans. It's funny, because after 25 years of turning almost every dime of extra money back into my businesses to grow them, it has been only in the last two years that I have finally made enough money to be able to put a little away for retirement, and now the value of that has dropped 40% because of the policies you and your ilk have perpetrated on our country.
You see, Mr. Obama, I'm the guy you intend to raise taxes on. I'm the guy who has spent 25 years toiling and sweating, fretting and fighting, stressing and risking, to build a business and get ahead. I'm the guy who has been on the very edge of bankruptcy more than a dozen times over the last 25 years, and all the while creating more and more jobs for East Texans who didn’t want to take a risk, and would not demand from themselves what I have demanded from myself. I'm the guy you characterize as "the Americans who can afford it the most" that you believe should be taxed more to provide income redistribution "to spread the wealth" to those who have never toiled, sweated, fretted, fought, stressed, or risked anything. You want to characterize me as someone who has enjoyed a life of privilege and who needs to pay a higher percentage of my income than those who have bought into your entitlement culture. I resent you, Mr. Obama, as I resent all who want to use class warfare as a tool to advance their political career. What's worse, each year more Americans buy into your liberal entitlement culture, and turn to the government for their hope of a better life instead of themselves. Liberals are succeeding through more than 40 years of collaborative effort between the predominant liberal media, and liberal indoctrination programs in the public school systems across our land.
What is so terribly sad about this is this. America was made great by people who embraced the one-time American culture of self reliance, self motivation, self determination, self discipline, personal betterment, hard work, risk taking. A culture built around the concept that success was in reach of every able bodied American who would strive for it. Each year that less Americans embrace that culture, we all descend together. We descend down the socialist path that has brought country after country ultimately to bitter and unremarkable states. If you and your liberal comrades in the media and school systems would spend half as much effort cultivating a culture of can-do across America as you do cultivating your entitlement culture, we could see Americans at large embracing the conviction that they can elevate themselves through personal betterment, personal achievement, and self reliance. You see, when people embrace such ideals, they act on them. When people act on such ideals, they succeed. All of America could find herself elevating instead of deteriorating. But that would eliminate the need for liberal politicians, wouldn't it, Mr. Obama? The country would not need you if the country was convinced that problem solving was best left with individuals instead of the government. You and all your liberal comrades have got a vested interested in creating a dependent class in our country. It is the very business of liberals to create an ever expanding dependence on government. What's remarkable is that you, who have never produced a job in your life, are going to tax me to take more of my money and give it to people who wouldn't need my money if they would get off their entitlement mentality asses and apply themselves at work, demand more from themselves, and quit looking to liberal politicians to raise their station in life.
You see, I know because I've had them work for me before. Hundreds of them over these 25 years. People who simply will not show up to work on time. People who just will not work 5 days in a week, much less, 6 days. People always looking for a way to put less effort out. People who actually tell me that they would do more if I just would first pay them more. People who take off work to sit in government offices to apply to get free government handouts (gee, I wonder how things would have turned out for them if they had spent that time earning money and pleasing their employer?). You see, all of this comes from your entitlement mentality culture.
Oh, I know you will say I am uncompassionate. Sorry, Mr. Obama, wrong again. You see, I've seen what the average percentage of your income has been given to charities over the years of 2000 to 2004 (ignoring the years you started running for office - can you pronounce “politically motivated”), you averaged less than 1% annually. And your running mate, Joe Biden, averaged less than ¼% of his annual income in charitable contributions over the last 10 years. Like so many liberals, the two of you want to give to the needy, just as long as it is someone else’s money you are giving to them. I won’t say what I have given to charities over the last 25 years, but the percentage is several times more than you and Joe Biden… combined (don’t you just hate goggle?). Tell me again how you feel my pain.
In short, Mr. Obama, your political philosophies represent everything that is wrong with our country. You represent the culture of government dependence instead of self reliance; Entitlement mentality instead of personal achievement; Penalization of the successful to reward the unmotivated; Political correctness instead of open mindedness and open debate. If you are successful, you may preside over the final transformation of America from being the greatest and most self-reliant culture on earth, to just another country of whiners and wimps, who sit around looking to the government to solve their problems. Like all of western Europe. All countries on the decline. All countries that, because of liberal socialistic mentalities, have a little less to offer mankind every year.
God help us...
Cory Miller
just a ordinary, extraordinary American, the way a lot of Americans used to be.
P.S. Yes, Mr. Obama, I am a real American... www.cmillerdrilling.com"