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Blacks more worried about transition

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor November 10, 2008 01:10 PM

On the eve of the first post-election meeting today between President Bush and President-elect Barack Obama, a new poll shows a racial division on how Americans believe the transition will play out to the first black commander-in-chief.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released today found that 57 percent of Americans overall believe the hand-over of power will be "relatively easy," 63 percent of whites but only 48 percent of blacks say that.

Nearly the same number of black respondents, 47 percent, said they believe the transition will be "relatively difficult."

The poll also showed Bush's approval rating at an all-time low, 24 percent, and there's also a racial difference on how he is handling the job. While the president's approval number is at 27 percent among whites, it is at 5 percent among blacks. That's down from 12 percent in February, the last time the CNN poll broke out the race of respondents.

The poll was conducted Nov. 6-9 and has an overall margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points and a margin of error among black respondents of plus or minus 5.5 percentage points.

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Byron, go get educated. The Black/White thing is in your head. Genetics plays no role in race. Race is a social concept.

Posted by Pete November 10, 08 02:13 PM
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On the race issue, I'm more concerned about Robert Byrd being a former KKK leader and that he serves with distinction in the Democratic Party for 60 years. What kind of message is the Democratic Party trying to send to the world? George Bush has the most racially diverse US government leadership of all presidents up to now. Bill Clinton's slobs left the White House a mess for the next president, but George Bush is leaving it clean and with style. Why would anybody suspect Barack Obama would have a difficult time moving into the White House?

Posted by David Thomson November 10, 08 02:14 PM
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WHEN are we going to stop the race questions. BHO is half white and who cares? My neighbor is half white and half Mexican - they are both AMERICANS. Instead of focusing on color I would like to see the news media report FAIRLY on BHO and not fawn all over him because of the "historic" nature of his presidency. If I hear that one more time I am going to throw up. The whole point is BHO has limited powers (thank the Founders) but one thing he can do is be a role (not roll) model for black kids who just MIGHT start emulating him and his education instead of athletes, rap stars and drug dealers.

Posted by Lady M November 10, 08 02:14 PM
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Who cares about polls, and people worry too much. This transition will be fine. The only thing blacks are worried about is an assasination, there are cooks everywhere. No doubt if that did happen it would be because he's black, not because he has a socialist agenda. I think all news organizations would benefit to stop this divisive dialoge of race. Everywhere I turn, its gotta be about race. It seems the media advocates Black Anger and White Guilt. Just drop the subject and try some real reporting for a CHANGE.

Posted by Michael J. Adolphson November 10, 08 02:15 PM
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Toonces,
Ha, Ha! Socialism, yeah right. You are crazy right-wing if you believe Obama (there's no "N" at the beginning) is a Socialist. Talk about Kool-Aid! I would instead recommend arsenic for you if you want to spare yourself 4, 8 or 16 years of agony.
Also, "Chris," playing the "race card" does not mean voting for someone because they are black, nor does it mean talking to more black people on TV as a result of an Obama election. Playing the race card is short hand for introducing the subject of race or racism to appeal to either the race or racism of your supporters.

Posted by Artemis November 10, 08 02:15 PM
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"Also after the election I have notied more African-Americans on the various news programs, Race Card? I think so,"

...They should've been there in the first place.
Oh my look at that! Two token blacks instead of the usual one! and you think it's the race card? pffft.

Posted by Mark November 10, 08 02:16 PM
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Personally I think everyone needs to just shut up & wait to see what happens. The Stepford / Robot Republicans are running around with their "the sky is falling" alarmist mentality. I am not a right or left wing supporter, I am an independent because I believe in voting for the best person for the job, not what party they are with. Give President-Elect Obama a chance, before for everyone heads to the cliff to jump. So what if his plans are higher taxes and socialist in nature, it is impossible for him to ruin a nation that the Bush Administration has already run into the ground. He can hardly do worse then what's been going on for the last 8 years. I say judge the man on his actions and not other peoples speculation.

Posted by Stephen B November 10, 08 02:16 PM
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I don't know about anyone else, but I will continue to pray that the Obama adminstration adheres to the values and the will of God...
Nevermind what color, or who the opposition is.
I pray that he stays balanced, fair-minded, and true to his maker.

PS: He is also white, so this thing about black concern is another conjured up myth that is designed to be divisible, with injustice to all.

Posted by sos November 10, 08 02:18 PM
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It appears that the media can't keep the race card out of the picture. Our President Elect's skin color isn't supposed to matter. If the words of MLK ring true it's the character of a man not his skin color. Why does the media constantly work to create and manipulate racial division like a cruel puppet master? If you cry fire in a crowded room people will panic. This is the same tactic from the media. Push buttons and plant the seeds of division and hate and laugh as they grow.

Posted by swr November 10, 08 02:18 PM
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I don't know about anyone else, but I will continue to pray that the Obama adminstration adheres to the values and the will of God...
Nevermind what color, or who the opposition is.
I pray that he stays balanced, fair-minded, and true to his maker.

PS: He is also white, so this thing about black concern is another conjured up myth that is designed to be divisible, with injustice to all.

Posted by sos November 10, 08 02:19 PM
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i think it is high time we all grew up and realized that we are all God's children and that the only we are ever going to grow as a nation is to realize that we all need to be figuring out how to best go about empowering ourselves, each one. Americans seem so caught up in word games and we seem to love our buzzwords and euphemisms. we need to value education more and worry less about trivial matters. also: has anyone ever thought that those who hate "big government" are also witnessing the rescue of Wall Street by "big government"? isn't it socialistic when a government becomes the owner of banks, mortgage companies, etc.? however no-one wants to face reality and we all hide behind euphemisms. if we want our children to be honest and forthright, how to do this while maintaining a facade and constantly lying and being lied to....how do we reduce gun violence if our government resorts to hostile measures to dominate other countries? what kind of behavior are we as a nation modeling for others?

Posted by maryann carrion November 10, 08 02:20 PM
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Are you kidding me?, Bush approval ratings now stands at 22% that is 3 points below one of the most crooked president in US history by the name Dick Millhouse Nixon. What A sweet justice for prophets of divisive cultural war politics. As for blacks being apprehensive about transition, that's just cognitive protection; they are still in daze or dreaming about African American as Commander-in-Chief. As for me, Obama being a constitutional law professor is Commander-in-cChief enough for me.

Posted by S.J.Abraham November 10, 08 02:21 PM
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"I bet you people of "color" don't want to remember that do you? The signs on the doors that said "No dogs or Irish allowed" we were no better than you so get off your damn
high horse already about repararations."

That's because you became the police :j

Posted by Mark November 10, 08 02:22 PM
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There will alwatys be a split until the BLACKS quit with Miss Black America, the united NEGRO college fund, the black cacus in congress. When they become Americans and americans oly. Theis is no Miss Asian American, No miss hispanic, no Miss Jewish, Miss Irish

Posted by Equality November 10, 08 02:23 PM
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why in the world would you publish a story like this?

it's irrelevant info really.

blacks are a little more nervous?

no SH@#!

this is a perfect example of how the media isn't informing anymore, it's pushing it's own agenda. fear = customers?

Posted by whiteMike November 10, 08 02:24 PM
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I don't know why anyone should be concerned about the transition . Bush ought to be mighty glad to get out of there and Obama has a handful of do-do on his hands ! he's made so many promises that requires so much money that we don't have . seems now every major company has come crying to the feds to bail them out . It's an ugly situation any way you look at it !

Posted by Bob November 10, 08 02:24 PM
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And here I was expecting all this to go away after the election...

Bush is gong to be gone and there are other news items. Enough already!

Posted by Jim November 10, 08 02:24 PM
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Obama is just as much white as he is black. I dont see why this is an issue.

If anything, blacks have one less excuse for claiming to be repressed, if Obama could do it anyone can.

Posted by NOONE November 10, 08 02:24 PM
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As a black man who actually FATHERS his children, I would strongly support President Obama taking an initiative to stomp out the 80% out of wedlock birthrate in America. Its a national disgrace and President Obama can do more to solve problems by addressing this one issue than anything else in the White House.

Posted by Jenkins November 10, 08 02:24 PM
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I voted for this man because I believe in him. His race doesn't matter to me; his idealism and potential did/do. When I look at him, I see him, not his race. How sad that for others it seems that's the first thing they see or all they can see. With attitudes like that, how much change is possible? And if you see only what you've always seen, you're likely to miss 99% of what's going on... and what can be accomplished.

Posted by Wednesday November 10, 08 02:25 PM
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What the hell difference does it make! As long as someone is working on the behalf of the AMERICAN people...not black not white. We are all HUMAN BEINGS. Politics who needs it!

Posted by onenationunderGod November 10, 08 02:26 PM
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President Barack Obama

Posted by thinkoutofthebox November 10, 08 02:28 PM
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""I bet you people of "color" don't want to remember that do you? The signs on the doors that said "No dogs or Irish allowed" we were no better than you so get off your damn
high horse already about repararations."

That's because you became the police :j"

....Not to mention 400 years of back-breaking labor, absence of education and even punishment for reading, broken family bonds, loss of surnames and rewritten heritage, the lack of a vote, the disenfranchisement of said vote once obtained, disparity in lending, dispartiy in healthcare.. hmmmm, high horse? Don't need one, just 40 acres and a mule :)

Posted by Cru November 10, 08 02:28 PM
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Aside from the obvious racial divide comments, has anyone done the math on this? Bush has a staggering 5% approval rating among blacks, with a polling margin of error at plus or minus 5.5 points.

Well, there you have it, folks. Studies suggest that not a single black person in this country approves of President Bush. Wow.

Posted by right over there November 10, 08 02:30 PM
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Just remember that we have just gone through a tough election campaign. Normally the party out of power has to demonize the guy in charge -- and they did.

The message to everyone, and it looks like especially African Americans, is that President Bush is not a stupid, evil demon that was the campaign conversation. Our country's election system, as we have just seen, only permits the best and the brightest to rise to the top. And remember that newspapers and comedians make the most money when they demonize someone.


Posted by Tom Mariner November 10, 08 02:30 PM
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This is a stupid report. American people are trying to move toward being less divisive ... as evidenced by our recent election... WHY DOES THE MEDIA HAVE TO TRY TO PULL US APART with STUPID polls like this?!?

Posted by DJ Pierce November 10, 08 02:30 PM
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He is a bi-racial president. Half white, half black. So what! WIll he be a good American President? We will see. One thing that he will learn very quickly is that the president really has little power. It is congress where the power is. He, like so many other presidents, has many great intentions that once in office will likely be shelved due to lack of support.
And remember two things if you would please. The government can only give what it takes from someone else, and corporations do not pay taxes, the people that buy thier products do. SO tax the corporations as you like, we all pay more as a result.

Posted by Firebird November 10, 08 02:31 PM
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It saddens me that the media, legitimate or otherwise, along with society continue to see things as black and white. If those of African heritage truly want to be seen as equals then why aren't they simply Americans? The same is true of Mexican's or ANY other person or group that chooses to become a citizen of these United States. Until ALL people learn to call themselves by a collective name, Americans, and embrace a single language, English, we will never truly be one on anything.

In case you’re wondering, which I’m sure you are – I am a white long time Republican who voted for Obama.
John

Posted by John November 10, 08 02:33 PM
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Reality is a disgrace, and every race has it's own disgraceful realities...
It is easy to point to the disgraceful realities in the African-American race.
It is also easy to point to the disgraceful realities of the European-American race.
The moral of this story is we are all in this hell-hole together.

The people who somehow think they have been born special or above it all,
will soon find they also have a belly full of it;
that is once they wake up of course.

Posted by sos November 10, 08 02:33 PM
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I do not think that the Union Of Soviet Socialist States of Amerika knows what the true political ramifications will be now that they have elected this "token" or should
I say "puppet" to the White house.

What truly scares me is that we do not know who the "puppeteers" are....

CIA, FBI, NSA, NRO, we do not know which acronym runs this country, or it's leaders...

Posted by Truly Outspoken November 10, 08 02:34 PM
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" ... he is MY President." - John McCain, 4 NOV 2008

People will say what they will about race, but the divide is about economics, opportunity and education. Can you imagine how appalled President-elect Obama would be if people voted for him only because he had a black father?

Posted by Andi November 10, 08 02:35 PM
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Reality is a disgrace, and every race has it's own disgraceful realities...
It is easy to point to the disgraceful realities in the African-American race.
It is also easy to point to the disgraceful realities of the European-American race.
The moral of this story is we are all in this hell-hole together.

The people who somehow think they have been born special or above it all,
will soon find they also have a belly full of it;
that is once they wake up of course.

Posted by sos November 10, 08 02:36 PM
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Obama is not all black why is it that is all that is seen ... he did not grow up in the getto .. he grew up abroad... this thought that he has gone through what I have in inner city philly is crazy. He is the first mixed president yes but not first full black from the getto.. so please people stop putting all this on his shoulders.. really.

Posted by Mack November 10, 08 02:36 PM
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The campaign isn't about race, but attitudes towards GWB are sharply divided along racial lines, which is interesting. Note that the attitudes of black people might have been the same with a white person elected as well; the polls didn't ask "do you think it'll be harder because Obama is black."

The campaign *is* about party though, and I am really really REALLY sick of partisan crap. I was one of the few who knew Bush Jr. would be a disaster from the start (though I liked is father), at least in part because I saw how he was elected - by playing to the fears of his base rather than appealing to the country as a whole. To the poster above who can't seem to figure out his president's name, it's "Obama" not "nobama." That's your future commander in chief; disagree with his policies, fine, but show him at least a tiny modicum of respect.

Namecalling, and the invention of a number of conspiracy theories, is (I hope) how McCain lost this election - it's how he lost my vote - and it's how the GOP is losing the country. We are the USA, supposed to be among the brightest lights for democracy in the world; and yet election rolls around and we're reduced to 300 million cheerleaders for ideologies we only loosely understand.

Stop the cheerleading and think. Reality is neither liberal nor conservative - in short, it doesn't give a shit if you believe the problem is best handled by market forces or by government handouts, or even by Divine Intervention. Too much government and you become a slave to the state, too little and you become a slave to corporate oligarchies. Neither sounds like a good idea to me, so why don't we all look for a little common sense ... in the middle. There's a reason George Washington wanted to abolish political parties, and America in 2008 seems to be a brilliant illustration of it.

Props to Bush for extending a hand. Obama, please try to find common ground. I voted for you because I thought you could.

Posted by Keith November 10, 08 02:37 PM
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"And remember two things if you would please. The government can only give what it takes from someone else, and corporations do not pay taxes, the people that buy thier products do. SO tax the corporations as you like, we all pay more as a result."

Windfall tax > Economic Stimulus Package = Check

Raising pay / Curbing inflation = Checkmate

Corporations can raise rates, just let my pay rise too. They'll all compete to have the lowest price anyway.

Posted by Cru November 10, 08 02:37 PM
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If McCain was black, same's skills just him being black do you think he would have won? Would you chose a surgeon or a doctor by the color of their skin and if they were the first black surgeon? Or would you travel sometimes even far and pay a lot of $$ and overlook their flaws and imperfections to get their skills? You would be interested in their skills, abilities and not the color of that surgeons skin before they took the knife on you or your child and operated on you? You would overlook what annoyed you knowing you or your child were in the best hands - correct?

Posted by dana November 10, 08 02:38 PM
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Stop stumping on people who have apprehensions. Bringing them down want bring you up. Besides that, most of you who have something negative to say are mediocre individuals without much promise in your lives. You cling to your bibles and guns- look to your bosses as masters and your dogs waiting for the scraps to fall off the table. Are yet Trickle-down Economics or “voodoo economics” because that theory has yet to work.

Posted by Seth Delano November 10, 08 02:38 PM
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Democrats expect the transition to be difficult. Republicans do not. A larger percentage of blacks than whites are democrats. Other than that it has nothing to do with race. Do the breakdown by party affiliation and you'll see the same thing.

Posted by Craig November 10, 08 02:40 PM
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I am tired of racist people making comments about Mr. Obama (president-elect) and about Black people. The bigots of this world have not contributed a cent to it, but hate. While Black people have had to be hundred times better at any job just to get ahead. It is easy to sit back and throw out negative comments about another race! Stop trying to disrespect Mr. Obama and think about how we all live as a people on this one planet called "Earth". I am looking for change and it doesn't matter the number of years it takes - as long as it happens. I believe the people voted for change! This national mess didn't happen overnight and it won't be change overnight. People start thinking about a better life!

Posted by Dolores November 10, 08 02:42 PM
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As long as pollsters keeping dividing us according to race, gender, whether we are left-handed or right-handed, on and on ad nauseum - as long as that happens we will continue to see a divided America. I'm kind of tired of seeing where we differ - I'd like to see where we are unified. Yeah, maybe it's pie-in-the-sky, but if we don't strive for it we'll never see it.

Posted by Cynthia November 10, 08 02:43 PM
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You enslave our ancestors, drove our future to failure, and ridicule Black people worldwide and you call Black people racist? I think we have been very patient with you people.

Posted by Tired of so-called white lies November 10, 08 02:44 PM
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Just to be fair... He's only *half* black. He's as exactly as much white as black.

Posted by CMD November 10, 08 02:45 PM
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Stop stumping on people who have apprehensions. Bringing them down want bring you up. Besides that, most of you who have something negative to say are mediocre individuals without much promise in your lives. You cling to your bibles and guns- look to your bosses as masters and your dogs waiting for the scraps to fall off the table. Are yet Trickle-down Economics or “voodoo economics” because that theory has yet to work.

Posted by Seth Delano November 10, 08 02:49 PM
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Every discussion about race is not "playing the race card". There are still difference in the way blacks vs. whites, as groups, think and behave. When 95
% of blacks as a group believe anything, compared to 73% of the same white group on the same issue, then the difference is worthy of note and discussion. Is it playing the race card to note that blacks have a higher percentage of lung cancer deaths? No - it is statistically significant and worthy of noting and figuring out why. In my book, "playing the race card" means injecting race into a situation where it does not belong. "Vote for me because I am black [or white]." "Be afraid to vote for me because I am black [or white]". Using race as an emotional appeal. That's the race card, to me. It will be wonderful when that day comes when canvassing the blacks vs. the whites on any given issue will result in the exact same percentages.

Posted by Doug Humes November 10, 08 02:49 PM
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soon White House in transition will appear as Black House.

Posted by Kay November 10, 08 02:50 PM
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First, even if the Bush administration makes it a hard transition, it wouldn't be the first time. FDR made the transition hard on Hoover for fear of Hoover's administratino poisoning his planned policies. The Clinton administration caused over $50,000 of damange to property during the transition to the Bush administration. I sincerly hope, none of this happens this time when we should all be rising above this to the challenge. 2.5 months is considerably less time to wait for the inauguation than in the past (6 months during FDR's time), so who knows what will happen.

I agree with the poster about the media trying to pull apart the races. At a time when the vote shows that Americans have come a long way in briding racial gaps it's a shame to see us constantly compared as different peoples. These subtle and constant comparisons by the media keep the divide alive which is a shame.

Posted by John November 10, 08 02:50 PM
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Quote Cru
....Not to mention 400 years of back-breaking labor, absence of education and even punishment for reading, broken family bonds, loss of surnames and rewritten heritage, the lack of a vote, the disenfranchisement of said vote once obtained, disparity in lending, dispartiy in healthcare.. hmmmm, high horse? Don't need one, just 40 acres and a mule :)
End Quote

And Somehow you are still better off than if there had been no slavery and you were living your life in Africa.

So it seems nothing to "make up for" but plenty to just get on and live the life you have now.

Posted by LiveNow November 10, 08 02:52 PM
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It's probably to early to initiate impeachment proceeding, but still, we should be working on the boilerplate language for the petition. I would note, that while President Bush's approval ratings are at 24%, Congress, the majority Democrat Congress approval ratings are less than 10%. In pure statistical terms, President is 100% more popular than Congress. Far from being any sort of mandate, this election is proof of the despair that voters and taxpayers feel of ever having anyone in office who will accept our views, values and interests as guidance for our governance. Republican turnout was the lowest it's been in 28 years, and overall trunout was less than the 2004 elections. Like it or not folks, if Republicans and Independents hadn't stayed home in droves on November 4th. Senator Obama would have lost, perhaps by a landslide. Now our biggest concern should be establishing a credible resistance movement to counter both party's until we, the people, can organize a viable third party or identify a responsible Independent candidate. As a starting point, I'd recommend that all of us under report our income by $100.00 dollars come April 15th. If we all take this baby step, we can starve the beast of the revenue it uses to usurp and undermine our will!

Posted by Ed Weirdness November 10, 08 02:53 PM
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Commander In Chief specifically relates to members of the military NOT
the civilian population. Over the course of the last eight years, the Republicans and the media have promulgated the notion that the president is CIC of the whole population. If one looks at the Constitution it becomes apparent that this is not the case. However, the repeated misconstruing of the President as CIC misleads people into thinking that it is true. It also paves the way for aggregating greater power to the executive, that is, "well if the Commander in Chief says we should do this then I guess we had better do it". It is a rhetorical tactic that shuts down opposition. It is much easier to call someone unpatriotic if he/she disagrees withthe CIC aa

Posted by therealhellkitty November 10, 08 02:53 PM
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I wish we could all see skin as what it is, a living breathing organism that has different shades of color. We all love, laugh, cry and have concerns just the same as all the colors of the world. I was raised in the deep south by family who were racist and then go to church and sing "Jesus loves the little children, red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in His site" then go put on a funny hat and sheet the same night for "a meeting". Thank God He showed me the light and taught me how to love. I judge people by igornance and behavior, not by the color of their skin. By the way, I did not vote for Obama but he is still our President and we must respect that.

Posted by Tina Marie November 10, 08 02:55 PM
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Foon Rhee
GAet a real job1

Posted by t.iski November 10, 08 02:55 PM
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yes lets judge barak huesien obama on his actions and what he has done! Are you nuts? If we had done that he would be in jail not the next president of my great country. Hang with druggies you are a druggy - hang with terrorists you are a terrorist - listen to hate speaches about our country you are a hater - steal money from the poor and you are a thief. - Preach socialism and you are a socialist . I get the picture and if BO has his way you will all get the picture. Congratulations to all of you low life M F's who want the government to feed you, clothe you,house you and tell you where to live and when and what doctor to see. He must be stopped

Posted by Indiana jones November 10, 08 02:56 PM
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We should not be looking at black and white issues anymore, we are all Amercians. The egg is still the same on the inside whether it's brown or white. Today's black people no longer have a reason to falter. The biggest issue we are facing is the ignorance of the lower class people. I hope Mr. Obama has a plan that will work to educate these people. I heard a story the other day that blew my mind - A couple went into the Office of Taxation to find out why their water had been turned off. After finding out it was because they did not pay their bill, they replied "but we won the election." This says a lot for the work that is set before all of us. Did they really believe their bills would mysteriously vanish since Mr. Obama was elected the day before. We need help these people find jobs and not allow them to take advantage of those of us that work hard to keep our heads above water. Everyone must work unless they are truly physically unable and not pretending to be. There are far too many that rely on aid for the necessities in their lives while at the same time they have the money to get their nails done, wear expensive clothes and carry elaborate cell phones. We need to educate these people and bring them back into reality.

Posted by TK November 10, 08 02:56 PM
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do the limbo hee lol =)

Posted by james howard November 10, 08 02:59 PM
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Well I guess we can't expect the press to take the high road even when it comes to a positive thing like our president and president elect meeting to discuss the future of our country! Freedom of the press has come to mean, freedom to mislead, freedom to misquote, freedom to start controversy where none existed! Sure you can print whatever you want and if it is found to be an outright lie, a retraction may appear buried deep in the newsprint. What is this survey supposed to accomplish? Are you trying to prove their are still racial differences in our country? Wow, I guess you have done your job! How about trying to help create an attitude of hope and compromise instead!

Posted by Richard A. Ide November 10, 08 03:01 PM
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The real issue in this story is... why should there be any problem in transitioning between presidents? With every election so far, the old president goes out, the new comes in. What else are the conductors of this poll suggesting might happen?

Posted by lisaa November 10, 08 03:02 PM
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DJ Pierce and all - I'll tell you why, because whether they know it or not, that is their primary role. Does anyone remember the song Dirty Laundry by Don Henley?

Posted by bassman67 November 10, 08 03:03 PM
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This poll has nothing to do with anything. American people are trying to move toward being less divisive ... as evidenced by our recent election... WHY DOES THE MEDIA HAVE TO TRY TO PULL US APART with STUPID polls like this?!? Shame on Foon Rhee-editor for posting this. It's totally irrelevant. We're all working towards a common goal... let's get out of the stone ages people.

Posted by ATOTHEJ November 10, 08 03:05 PM
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""I bet you people of "color" don't want to remember that do you? The signs on the doors that said "No dogs or Irish allowed" we were no better than you so get off your damn
high horse already about repararations."

That's because you became the police :j"

....Not to mention 400 years of back-breaking labor, absence of education and even punishment for reading, broken family bonds, loss of surnames and rewritten heritage, the lack of a vote, the disenfranchisement of said vote once obtained, disparity in lending, dispartiy in healthcare.. hmmmm, high horse? Don't need one, just 40 acres and a mule :)"

Not to mention having come here by CHOICE (albeit to escape famine) as opposed to coming here in cages....

I'm sorry, but they two do not compare.


Posted by SouthernGirl November 10, 08 03:09 PM
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Obama supporters, please don't use the "blame the media" tactic. That is a dead horse. The GOP and their conservative base have been blaming everyone but themselves for the debacle of the past eight years. Enough of the blame game. As the greatest and most moral President ever to enter the White House so succinctly put it, "a house divided against itself can not stand." We will either unite under this new banner of hope or we will succumb to racism, hatred and divisiveness. Either way, we deserve what we get.

Posted by Steve Hanes November 10, 08 03:17 PM
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To Indiana Jones, with your hatred doctrine:
You are the filthy embodiment of all that you have judged others by.
You are living proof that cesspools are not only full of loathesome disease and putrid odors, but they also have the nerve to speak...
The whole problem with the world is that dirt has been given a voice.
To Indiana Jones: The place you occupy in this "Great country (which you claim is yours) is under the feet of decent people. You are dirt, and the place you occupy is in the dirt...Look around, you have buried yourself...Enjoy!
you are simply " dirt!

Posted by sos November 10, 08 03:17 PM
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Quote LiveNow
So it seems nothing to "make up for" but plenty to just get on and live the life you have now.

I just don't like how half of a generation of affirmative action is supposed to make up for things like that.. When you get down to it, my grandparents probably didn't receive the same education as yours. All I'm saying is there is no high horse.
Besides, it'd be way too hard to give 40 acres and a mule to everyone that's black, especially since one drop is all it takes. Practically everyone would get their own.
Don't expect anything to be "made up for" for another 300 some years.

Posted by Cru November 10, 08 03:21 PM
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Quote LiveNow
"And Somehow you are still better off than if there had been no slavery and you were living your life in Africa."

This is assuming Africa wasn't bankrupted at the same time?

Posted by Cru November 10, 08 03:23 PM
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"Windfall tax > Economic Stimulus Package = Check
Raising pay / Curbing inflation = Checkmate
Corporations can raise rates, just let my pay rise too. They'll all compete to have the lowest price anyway."

If I make a product that costs me $6 to produce and I want to take away $3 in profit after taxes on the profit and know the government taxes me 25% of profit I charge $10 for the product. If they then raise taxes to 50% I raise the price to $12, equals $6 profit, I still get my $3... only change? Government gets more and the people pay more.

Posted by Firebird November 10, 08 03:25 PM
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PS: There was never 40 acres or even a mule.
Everyone should work as hard as one can, to acheive the most good for him/herself and others. The problem is that all too often, the same demons trying to tear down President Obama (because of his race), are the same spirts that bombed black churches, bombed the black-owned airport in Kansas, deliberately ran freeways thru black neighborhoods (dividing the commercial areas from the customers/residents and destroying both), and even just recently slashed tires and broke windows of viable black-owned delies that tried to operate honest businesses here in Southern California. The demons of the criminals of hatred and injustice can have no rest; but neither can the souls they inhabit...

Posted by sos November 10, 08 03:30 PM
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"Government gets more and the people pay more."
What's your suggestion then? The wealthy are a slippery fish to catch. As stated earlier there's virtually no way to tax them, so what can we do?
I hear a lot of naysaying with no solutions, if you've got the math skills to point out what's wrong, point out how it can be made right.
At the moment, robin hood seems like a good idea. I know they'll find some way to steal it back, but it's better than everyone sitting on their hands while the price of everything rises anyway.

Posted by Cru November 10, 08 03:39 PM
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I guess you people keep forgetting that it was YOUR people who sold you into slavery and sent your stupid asses here in the first place, meet me at Logan
in the morning, Delta counter. and I will buy you a ticket back if you like, I have
tired of your bullshit over the past 400 years...

Posted by Tired Fool November 10, 08 03:48 PM
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Color is not a concern. Past precedent is.
Jimmy Carter cut military spending to the bone, supposedly to set a good example to others and caused a 23% inflation rate. Russia then went all out, causing Reagan to overspend to catch up ... and eventually cause communism to fail. Bill Clinton cut the military to the bone and allowed terrorists to bomb many embassies in Africa and the Middle East while only responding with speeches about how the terrorists will be brought to justice. I sincerely hope Obama can do better.

Posted by Richard Bradley November 10, 08 04:07 PM
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Tired Fool has aptly named himself. To think that he has been alive 400 years, and to think he can even afford a ticket for himself let alone anyone else.
To think he can even imagine sending someone anywhere, when he has no clue where he is, why is here, how he got here, or where in hell he is headed.
OH WHAT FOOLS INDEED THESE MORTAL MEN, who don't know their tails from their heads; and in Tired Fool's case it doesn't matter as the same thing comes out of both ends... You might as well close your eyes now, Tired Fool, for you are poor, and miserable, and wretched, and blind and naked, and who needs ya anyway?

Posted by sos November 10, 08 04:27 PM
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"I guess you people keep forgetting that it was YOUR people who sold you into slavery and sent your stupid asses here in the first place, meet me at Logan
in the morning, Delta counter. and I will buy you a ticket back if you like, I have
tired of your bullshit over the past 400 years..."

...I guess you keep forgetting you're the one that bought 'em because you wanted to put them in chains and build an awesome country off of free labor.
No one wants a ticket now, you've already decimated what was left. Save that ticket for yourself, I'm tired of YOUR bullshit of just the last 5 minutes alone!

Posted by :\ November 10, 08 04:30 PM
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give me a break. Leave race out of this. The african americans are making this a race issue.. not the whites. So what if he is black. He is the next president fair and square.

leave the race card home... and tell Oprah the same thing.

and finally he is half WHITE..

Posted by Tom from NH November 10, 08 04:34 PM
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"meet me at Logan in the morning, Delta counter. and I will buy you a ticket back if you like, I have tired of your bullshit over the past 400 years..."

I'm sorry, no refunds.

Besides, if you buy crack from a cop, the cop isn't who's busted, you are.
Just because they were sold doesn't make for a clean slate. I guess you'd be cool with human right violations as they stand now eh? Have a few sex-slaves? I'm sure they wanted to be sold, right?

Posted by Em November 10, 08 04:35 PM
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He is the President Elect!!! Not the Black President Elect!!! Stop bringing race into this. You wonder why there is a racial divide in this country, everytime something good or bad happens in this country the press brings race into it. We are all Americans. (except the illegal aliens)

And I voted for McCain!!

Posted by Paul November 10, 08 04:47 PM
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If we eliminate all the over exaggerations of most of the above posts, what remains? The press plays angles that divide people...The political parties play angles that divide people...Alright, Americans are a divided people. What so revolutionary about that? While I may not have thought President Bush to be a great leader, he was the president and the office is bigger than any one man, including Obama, Clinton, Reagan, etc. I whink we all need to stay grounded in reality and not get carried away with the hypotheticals given by the news media and other nuts out there.

Posted by Big Tony November 10, 08 04:49 PM
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"give me a break. Leave race out of this. The african americans are making this a race issue.. not the whites."

To that, I say: "Is Obama black enough?"

Really? Just the african americans?

Posted by Cru November 10, 08 05:02 PM
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Delores- You wrote: "I am tired of racist people making comments about Mr. Obama (president-elect) and about Black people. The bigots of this world have not contributed a cent to it, but hate. While Black people have had to be hundred times better at any job just to get ahead."

You do understand that we just elected a black President? Let's drop the baloney about job inequality.

Posted by ALFMAN1000 November 10, 08 05:11 PM
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So African Americans were asked their opinions about a subject and then were asked their race/ethnicity, and because the percentages differ from the way white people answered the question, African Americans are bringing race into it? That makes no sense. Maybe white people should form some sort of committee and then call every African American to tell them what their opinion should be so that they match the statistics for white people.

Why do white people think that black people, a group who's incomes and educational levels are statistically different from white people, are going to have the same opinions as white people? The difference between black people and white people in this country is not just the color of their skin. The problem seems to stem from people not seeing the differences or seeing them and thinking that the differences are bad.

Posted by Jeff_s November 10, 08 05:27 PM
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Racism at work.

It showed up in the election numbers too !

(so much for the belief that only one side is racist)

Posted by Da Truth November 10, 08 05:30 PM
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The media has yet to say anything other than "Black" president, or refer to race...
They have the loudest and most incessant voice at this time, and indoctrination seems to be the name of the game.

Posted by sos November 10, 08 05:33 PM
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WAIT TILL BLACKS FIND OUT THAT NOTHING WILL CHANGE. IT NEVER DOES.

Posted by FFED November 10, 08 05:33 PM
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I am so sick of hearing about our black president. He is black and white. Who better than him can understand the issues that are important to both groups. I do like it when I hear him say ' we are not a black America, or a white America, or a purple America, we are the United States of America. It does make me feel that there is some sort of hope, we have been divided as a country for the last 8 years (actually, the last 12, we were really ripped apart by the GOP being relentless in their pursuit of Clinton, but that is another thread), it would be awesome to see us all be just Americans again. We need to get on the media about this crap that they keep pulling and pitting black against white.

And as far as the people out there who are not happy about Obama winning. Get over it. I have had to live the last 8 years being completely unhappy about our president and his administration, guess it is your turn now.

Posted by Robin D. November 10, 08 05:37 PM
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Yall need to calm down. 2/3 of the post are race baiting while the next 1/3 is race reactions, sucker please. Enough of this crap. oh and one yawn in there for good measure!

Posted by James E Stevenson November 10, 08 05:41 PM
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The media has yet to say anything other than "Black" president, or refer to race...
They have the loudest and most incessant voice at this time, and indoctrination seems to be the name of the game.

Posted by sos November 10, 08 05:44 PM
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i'm a 60 yr old typical white woman. i don't understand why this topic is even being voiced. we have a president-elect. in january he and his family will move into the white house. why must we make a racial issue out of everything that the obama family and the obama administration does and will do in the future? how can we unite when all this racial flak is never ending? let's give this coming president a chance without analyzing every simple detail to it's end. let's give it a chance. and it sure would help if the main stream media (abc/cbs/nbc's) would just give it a rest. many americans don't trust the MSM anymore anyway. Press! just give us folks some peace of mind for a change. quit digging for dirt.


Posted by eco delsol November 10, 08 05:49 PM
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Pretend you are blind and nobody told you what Obama's skin color is and that his name was Jim Smith.
All you could do is listen to his words.
Would you be impressed by him as a man?

Posted by Derrin Harvey November 10, 08 06:16 PM
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Bush is white and his approval ratings are some of the lowest of all time so obviously race has nothing to do with. What should matter is the persons character and ability but unfortunately for too many people it's about whether he has an R or a D in front of his name and whether his idealogy is liberal or conservative. I bet if Obama was republican he wouldn't have gotten over 90% of the black vote. It's my belief that he will face greater challenges from within his own party than the republicans. Now that he's President he'll come to realize we as a country can't let special interests divide us if we want to succeed. a sh

Posted by T November 10, 08 07:12 PM
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Socialism? Oh, you mean like, when the economy collapses and the "rugged, individual capitalists" who want their "free market economy and to keep government out of free enterprise" come crying for a 750 billion dollar bailout?

Please. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Did I mention the CEOs still want their golden parachutes and six-to-seven figure bonuses? Enough with the nonesense.

Posted by Dean November 10, 08 07:28 PM
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THE MEDIA IN GENERAL, AND Foon Rhee SPECIFICALLY WILL NOT BE SATISFIED UNTIL THEY UNCOVER SOME BLATANT RACIAL UNREST. I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THE MEDIA WANTS RIOTING THE THE STREETS AND THEY WON'T STOP PRINTING THIS GARBAGE UNTILL THEY HAVE IT!!!!

Posted by beenthere-donethat November 10, 08 08:22 PM
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Like it or not Obama is our president elect, God lead him to us, I think we should
embrace him just like anyone of our other president, The man is educated and
desciplined and if anyone should inhered the kindom, should be him. That's how I
see.

Posted by stephanie kwan November 10, 08 08:45 PM
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coddle
Verb
[-dling, -dled]
1. to pamper or overprotect

Does every little insecurity of African-Americans have to be extracted, amplified and over-exposed? The enemy of the African-American is the guilty white liberal. WHy I bet it was a guilty white liberal that came up with this STUPID poll to begin with. These idiots have succeeded in destroying the black family and creating the modern day plantation. THey wouldn't do to their own children what they tell the government to do "for" black families and their children.

The American peoople have just elected a black man President. OK he is in his own words, a "mutt" but really can we just get going with reality and stop the psycho-babblism???

Posted by Richard` November 10, 08 09:33 PM
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95% of a race voting for Obama is only 24% of the vote. whites or mutts including me voted 64% for Obama.. now the minority needs to let this race thing go, I myself voted for an intelligent (MAN) would I vote Jeese Jackson in "hell no" with good reason, I voted Obama in. Let me say this, Obama is pissed that you the minority as you will always be are calling him black, he's not black, he is bi-racial and took advantage of what America had to offer him. leave the man be and let him live out his destiny. Get off your effing government couches and make something of youselves instead of pointing fingers and using race. it doesn't work
it doesn't work anymore as we gave (yet again what you feel you deserve) my thoughts in closing are YOU ARE SCARED, cuase now you have to get up off your fat "you know whats" and RISE ABOVE!! god luck we are watching. you will never
own this country until you educate yourselves. NEVER, and my thought is 64% against 24% the 64 will beat you down. Obama gave you your one and only to chance to Rise and shut the heck up! Thanks to you all I will never vote Obama in again no matter how well he does. You people, that's right, you peoiple scare the
hell out of me. Wake up and work!!!!

hell out of me


chance to rise now Rise and shut the heck up


own this


thouths in glosing are, YOU ARE

anymot

Posted by Americanpitbull November 10, 08 10:24 PM
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Obama will certainly make this nation a better place to live in. My prayer is that he seeks wisdom from above and it will see him through the oval office the next EIGHT (8) YEARS. All the very best!!!!

Posted by Neil November 10, 08 10:34 PM
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How can you call this poll accurate, why in the world would blacks even give Bush an approval rating when "one of their own" i Prez ellct.....shame shame!

Posted by typical_white_person November 10, 08 11:00 PM
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i was so excited when Sen Obama now Pres. elect. won. Then after watching the pundits, sour grape conservatives and reading posts from so many who are upset at the results and the fact their candidate didn't win I am really feeling this country will never be unified.

It is so discouraging, for at least one day though it was nice when the majority of people just shut up and enjoyed the moment but people are never satisfied and I believe really enjoy having something to complain about. I swore i would not read any more posts or watch any more news it is just too depressing.

Posted by autoprt November 11, 08 12:36 AM
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First: most blacks (especially new voters) are democrats
Second: most democrats voted for Barack Obama
Therefore, the 95% statistic is not proof of RACISM at all.

Posted by Alexander November 11, 08 12:40 PM
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It is a crying shame that this country has been clothed in racism so long that when we have this great historical moment (while all the rest of the WORLD watched!) there still has to be ignorant ass people who try to stop CHANGE! For those who do not want to change, leave America and go form your own country with people who subscribe to the same backward thinking as you do. You Will Not Be Missed! This man Obama is Not the Messiah but he is called to do some wondrous things and through and by the help of God, he Will! So shake off your hate and evil plots and GET READY FOR CHANGE!

Posted by keepitreal November 11, 08 05:53 PM
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WHAT IS THIS RACE CARD I HERE OF?

Posted by ROCKY November 11, 08 05:53 PM
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I AM SO SICK OF THIS MESS. THE RACISM HAS CLEARLY COME OUT. IF YOU GO TO YOU TUBE.COM. ALL YOU SEE IS WHITES CALLING BLACKS COONS AND MONKEYS AND DISRESPECTING OUR NEW PRESIDENT. YOU WILL NOT SEE ONE VIDEO OF BLACKS DISRESPECTING WHITES AT ALL. AMERICA WAKE UP. GOD KNOWS WHAT'S BEST. AND HE CONTROLS ALL OUR FATE. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. THANIK GOD FOR PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA AND HIS FAMILY AND TO THE NEXT 8 YEARS IT WILL TRULY BE A BLESSING. SO CALL US WHAT YOU WANT. WHITES VOTED FOR HIM TOO.

Posted by JEN November 12, 08 09:32 AM
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Yes gone are the days of a group of white punk a@@ men dressed in sheets going into a house, grabbing a little Black boy out of his bed and beating and hanging him...( and they have the nerve to call themselves men). Now it's time for a new era in Ourstory, see all the years of racism and mistreatment of the Black race has so many white people scared (those who have done wrong in the past are the ones we see on youtube talking about "i'm scarred that the Blacks will take over") well it's out time. Those who where once concidered last shall now be first. So hey white people just deal with it, WE Did.

Posted by B. Elston November 12, 08 08:58 PM
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You know if you were born in America you are an american, NOT African-Americans, Mexican -Americans. If people would stop trying to make it black and white everyone would get along better. If you were born here in the us then say you are an american period. I don't care if the President is Black, White, Red or Yellow. Stop using color. All you hear in the news the first Black President. Now who is pushing color.

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