Joe the watchdog?
Joe the plumber is apparently not ready to leave the political stage now that the election is over.
While Samuel J. Wurzelbacher quashes speculation that he plans to run for Congress, he tells Newsmax.com, a conservative website, that he is launching a government watchdog group to keep President-elect Barack Obama and other politicians accountable.
In the telephone interview posted today, Wurzelbacher says rather being just one voice among 435 in Congress, he hopes to be more vocal and do more good with his watchdog group.
Because of the "unique position that I've been put in," he said, he has decided he "might better serve my fellow man" with watchdog group. (The group's brand-new website also promotes his forthcoming book, "Fighting for the American Dream.")
He said he's putting his dream of owning his own plumbing business on hold. "The nice thing about being a plumber, I can always go back to being a plumber," he says.
It was his plumbing business plan, of course, that first put him in the public eye. He confronted Obama while the Democrat was campaigning in northeast Ohio and said his tax plans would get in the way of his dream. Obama famously replied that with the struggling economy, he wanted to "spread the wealth."
Republican John McCain made that comment his major campaign theme for the final weeks and made Wurzelbacher a symbol of small business owners and would-be owners who he said would be hurt by Obama's plans.
Reporters quickly uncovered that Wurzelbacher wasn't actually licensed to be a plumber and owed back taxes.
In the interview, he said he was disappointed by the scrutiny and suggested that might discourage others from asking tough questions.
Wurzelbacher said he was also disappointed by McCain's loss on Tuesday and said it's now up to Obama to prove himself.
"He's got a lot of work to do," he said.
But he said the new watchdog group, he said, will show that he's not "in the tank" for McCain, or completely against Obama.
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Joe the plumber only position he has been put in is a laughing stock to the rest of the country. He does not have a clue how business works let alone politics. He gets some air time on national news because he cant figure out what his tax base would be, on Obama's tax rate if he purchased the business from his boss. If you cant figure that out than i dont want you keeping politicans in line. You wont know what to look for. Fire your agent and get back to work plumbing houses. If you even know how to do that.
As a Republican, I am embarassed that Joe is exploiting this situation. It might have turned out to be innocent, but now it seems that Joe is just looking for an easy buck. Now, I see he has a book coming out soon.... gosh, Joe, you surely must be highly intelligent to write a book so fast.
I don't think you should represent anyone, especially me. You gave an interview in which you talked about principles on Fox. I question if YOU know what that word means:
NOt a licensed plumber.. You owe taxes. Didn't pay a hospital bill. Received Welfare...that makes you a Hypocrite (know what that word means, Joe? And worse of all. You didn't pay Child Support. What a loser you are. If you really admire and respect the Republican party, you would not continue to embarass McCain or any of us who believe that we are tryly good Americans and still believe in the Repbulican party.
So, will you just please go back to Loserville?
So, Joe the plummer, who neglected to get a plumbing license and who had a tax lien against him thinks he should be a watchdog. Maybe he should consider getting his own house together before throwing stones.
His 15 minutes of fame are so over. He has no standing or expertise that should make anyone take him seriously.
Joe is an average American with normal ups and downs like everyone else.
It is an absolute disgrace for people to delve into his personal life, because he ask a simple questions.
That could happen to any of us and if there is one thing we have in our Constitution is freedom of speech and we shold never be afraid to speak up less we become fearful of speaking out.
I for one am proud of Joe and will supprt him anyway I can. Fight for What's Right and move forward and keep Congress in check. It is "We The People", not We The Cowards you go Joe
I wonder if anyone is going to check this guy's w-2 forms come april. would be interesting. He's gotten more than his 15 minutes of fame. Watchdog? yah, Right.
He sure played it for all it was worth and the media bought into it hook line and sinker. So much for being a fledgling business owner. Good riddance to bad rubbish. This guy couldn't tell the difference between $250,000 of corporate earnings and his wage.
I think it is time to put the "Joe" character in its' proper place. Reporters need to actually watch the video and "Fact check" and then report the true version of the story. Continuing the saga using the cherry picked sound bites that were used for political gain is not true reporting. There is so much misinformation on this guy that the truth needs to be told. Watch his interviews outside of his house to see his opinions and views too. Where is the part of this story today that explains that he plans to take a paycheck out of donations to his "Watchdog" group? Taking biased information from Newsmax.com, a "conservative website" which asks for donations to it's Republican sponsor through emails, is slanted reporting to me.
Regarding comment #1 by CarrieP. Joe did not need to have a plumbers license as he was working under his employers' license. Next, I'm hoping that you are one of the folks that gets a free education on Barack's watch. Your grammar and spelling are the joke. How much did you pay in taxes last year? Hmmmmm
And, for the record Joe the Plumber asked a question of Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama's answer scared 48% of voting Americans.
I welcome this. I really do. The best arguments that can be made for one side of an argument are the worst possible arguments made in support of the other side. Joe the Simpleton (psst - businesses are taxed on what they net, Joe, not what they gross) can only help the cause of progressive governance by taking up the mantle of Bush/Cheney/conservative opposition to our new government.
So I say bring it on, cupcake.
Joe has a voice now, so perhaps good will come out of his watchdog site...it's obvious that the American taxpayer needs to watch more closely how our money is being spent. Maybe if we had more "Joe's" out there, we would not have the current financial mess.
I thought I need to send a comment but could not possibly do better than Carrie P, Ursula, Richard, and Brenda. Sure, he could become a watchdog so that attention can be taken off all that he's screwed up on and the attention can go elsewhere. I also believe McCain shot himself in the foot by taking on Palin in hopes to gain Hillary's supporters and iced the cake when he latched onto Joe the Non-Plumber. I am just thankful that we have more people who saw through McCain than those who couldn't. My whole outlook on life is definitely brighter.
"Joe" is a joke! He should just fade back into his no license having, owing back taxes life! He's a nothing who has been on welfare before!!!! Joe...your 15 minutes of fame are long gone. Not that I wanted McCain to win, but you and Palin are two of the reasons he didn't.....so for that I thank you!
Now go get a license and shut up!
In response to Patty, while you might say that Obama's answer to "Joe" scared 48% of the population, that is false. You and I know that a majority of McSame's supporters were staunch GOP supporters and would support anyone on the GOP ticket as long they align themselves with the GOP, the rest of his supporters failed to recognize any real and authentic issues to align themselves with! Obama won by a landslide while receiving one of the highest POPULAR VOTE counts in history, so please do not feel as though you must insult some typos made another blogger, because your precious Sarah Palin, and McBush lost! I guess the real scary part is that 28 years of Reagan Era politics are OVER!!! Bring in the Change!!!
Stop reporting on this fringe loon!
Patty? You so need Obama's money for education. You need to major in MORAL, learn some morality and get yourself out of your MORONITY. Guess what? Just another SORE loser that should get ship to Alaska together with Joe the Owed TAXEX UNLICENSED PLUMBER. See ya! SORE LOSER. We Obama supporters sure wanna him to pass the bill so all of you guys can get your As* back to school, jesus...
Looks like the kool aide is still very intoxicating....why are there such ill feelings and harsh words for a guy who was thrust into the spotlight and doing what he can to benefit from the situation....isn't that what is great about this country? You have a guy who really is just regular schmoe and all of a sudden he is a pseudo celeb....welcome to the America the liberal media has created!!!! Speaking of the liberal media I am very curious to see how long the love affair will last....how long it will take for the lack of investigation into our new president elect's policies and background "will come home to roost". my guess is around mid summer, any takers?
Doesn't it seem odd that a person with tax problems plans to be a government watchdog to make sure our elected officials are ethical? Talk about irony! He should take care of his own problems and do it quietly.
Joe the Plumber in lipstick turned out to be an opportunistic primadona. One of the campaigns made him famous but it was a phony famous based on nothing but air and lies. He also was an unsuccessful political ploy for the campaign that tried to use him. He may find that there are precious few who want to remember him. I can't imagine who would want to read a book by him or listen to his "amateur" efforts at singing. Personally, I wish he'd go back to school to qualify for a real plumber's license and then quietly go fix leaky toilets or whatever it is that a real plumber does.
J -
I rarely watch Fox News, so I was surprised to learn from you that they and other principled conservative media outlets refused to cover the Joe the Plumber story.
But thanks.
And thanks too for showing us whiny bleeding hearts how to take an election loss with consummate grace. Really - I've never enjoyed being schooled more.
That's pretty rich. A willfully ignorant man who practically accused a presidential candidate of wanting to destroy Israel, then can't explain his reasoning when asked, thinks he has the mental capacity and personal integrity to question the ethics of others? Joe, I suggest you finish high school first, then maybe develop some morals. And if all else fails you can make a living helping Dubya clear brush at the ranch. Incurious George seems like your kind of guy.
I just dont understand this guy?...How can someone work as hard as he does, makes under 40g a year and not want his taxes lower...actually he even
( OWES TAXES!!!)...It was so funny when the day after the 2nd debate they interviewed him, and he was like'' i couldnt do an interview last night cuz i was working my butt off and was covered in mud (same interview) i dont think rich people should pay higher taxes cuz they've worked hard for there money''...
THATS COMING FROM A MAN COVERED IN POO....sad!
I am the Service Manager at a plumbing company that has been in business since 1923 in Southern California. We are a Union Shop. My plumbers must go through a 5 year apprenticeship before they become a Journeyman and even then it takes years to gain the real experience needed to be a quality plumber. It is true that Joe does not have a license and that he does not need to have one in most states if he is only working as an employee. Some states DO require that you are licensed even if you are JUST an employee. When Joe asked Senator Obama, what would happen to him under the new tax plan if he buys his bosses business, assumes that Senator Obama would have in depth knowledge of the business assets, liabilties, and projected earnings. Those are things that Joe should be investigating and checking out with his "accountant" before purchasing the business so he can make a good decision based on solid facts, not just hypothetical meanderings. I for one support the Unions, the American workers, and the "Buy American" philosophy. I do not believe that we are on this planet alone and we must have relationships with other countries, however, I also believe it is time for America to get back to passing on the trades to the next generation, to making things, support of the small local businesses and farms,
and yes, helping out your neighbor when they are down and out as they would help you out.... Yes, there is a lot to be done in our country ... For a while my heart was very heavy and I wondered just where our country would be for my children and my grandchildren... and for the first time in a very long time, I feel hope...a hope that has renewed my spirit... that hope has come from the American people's ability to make the changes necessary (as hard as they may be) and move this country into a positive hopeful direction. Instead of fighting and bickering about the petty things, lets pull together and in spite of our differences let's put this country back on it's feet and show the world just what kind of stuff we are made of... put your actions where your mouths are and do something positive today no matter how large or small the project... The definition of insanity is when a person, people, or a government keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results... So when the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of change, we will change... I am proud that we as a people have had the courage to stop acting insanely and welcome this change.
Watchdog group = front for donations to Joe's sixpack fund.
GOOD for JOE! we need a watchdog to make sure Obama does the right thing for the American people. I don't trust that Chicago gangster AND HIS lawyer wife Michelle.
Who better to find tax cheats than a tax cheat? Who better to plumb the depths of goverment than a man who plumbs the depths of clogged toilets?
Hey Joe,
awfully mysterious how it took soo long to gather the final vote count in NC and Obama was nominated President 15 electoral votes hanging until today. How can he be nominated President when the NC votes were not ready yet. But all of a sudden he won and NC votes a normal Republican state. And now he has access to all Military secrets and more. And today he was briefed go figure that one. Why the sudden interest. Did you know people in the Military hand other affiliations of the Military have to get a stringent rigerous background check to have a Secret/top Secret clearance and he and senators dont have to. He is already interested (SCARY) I e-mailed McCain, Palin, Burr, Dole, Walter Jones and they never responded. Go figure why the Republicans lost they never answer the Mail.
Good for you samual. Some one has to do the job, hey Obama won great for the people . The only thing that stinks about the whole thing is that, Hey the news is the news sorry being black or white in this case here it is about what is right and wrong as far as i heard and seen . Or looking internet WOW . Call me an ass but ok i know i always want the better man of my judgememt not by color or race . I believe there were to many things not brought to truth about a lot of things i stand behind Joe the Plummer I my self own my bussiness too . When that one girl steped outside after voting for B.O. and said ."He is going to pay for everything", she said you take care of me and i well take care of you. WOWWOWWOWthIIthoughherghherdfastheweweawewewewewewe heweeminmines of peoplesome people asoso
Gordon, I think you have something there. As for all the people saying, 'leave him alone' and blaming the 'liberal media' (which is so laughable), he is the one seeking out the media after all. Sheesh!
You go Joe. Some one need to keep a watch on congress. I too am going to keep track of things that go on. I am writing my congressman and senators on everything that I disagree on. I am against welfare for the rich and poor. The bailout is a farce. This country needs to get back on track and stop a lot of waste in government. Everyone needs a job and to earn their own way not depend on government to do it for them.
McCain is the one who thrust Joe the fake plumber into the spotlight by mentioning him over 20 times during the debate, and dragging him around on the campaign trail. It is hilarious that McCain and his supporters lashed out at the media for 'attacking' poor Joe. How dare the awful liberal media have the audacity to check out Joe's story, and report the fact that most of what he said was a lie.
Have you seen this clown's website? It appears that you have to be a paying member in order to participate on the forum. He is also pitching his new book. I hope that the bitter McCain supporters open up their pocketbooks, and support poor Joe.
Joe, you were the only person out there who didn't just tell Americans to get out and vote, but rather, to vote responsibly by understanding the issues. The
Demo-rats by their actions encouraged people to vote over and over and over from cradle TO the grave and beyond. I really like what you say and how you express yourself. Republicans too often talk above the average Joe's understanding. We discuss capital gains, while Demo-rats simply promise a chicken in 94% of pots. (The evil "rich" must of course share their chickens. It would be selfish of them to keep hard-earned chickens for themselves!) Go for it, Joe! You are a great American. Ignore the naysayers. They don't get it and never will Like President Hussein, they will never understand capitalism. To 52% of Americans, it was all about them...their white guilt, Hussein's Arabic black color, and his "colorful " but empty preachings...Unfortunately, Hussein's worshippers not only voted their future but ours as well. We must now HOPE for a CHANGE back to American values in the years to come....For now, Joe , just PLUNGE right in to your new "job". Thanks!
So what if Joe took his fame ran with it. Hell someoone said he doesn't know anything about business? He has interviews, a book coming out, a website which will create revenue for him and a possible lawsuit for breach of confidentiality into his personal life! Is that not business smart.? Jealous, ugly people hate average people like Joe or Palin succeeding or running for office. They feel more comfortable with 'educated' politicians who don't pay their taxes and have child porn filled computers and embezzeling schemes, then their happy.
Run for Congress Joe might, write a book he might, but finish school and pay up the tax lien first. If he finds these items non-achievable, he will stay the same as an unlicensed plumber. Bye-Bye Joey.
joe,
Why are you working without a license? What's wrong with being an apprentice at 40 something? Joe the plumber could have worn a suit at the McCain event, oops! i'm sorry it was staged. How does it feel to be used? Your 15 minutes has come and gone. Don't expect to make money from your scripted book you dead beat father.. Get a real job and feed your wife and children, don't expect the rest of us to raise your family.
Joe the Plumber served a very important role in the election. He helped to reveal how pitifully without substance John McCain's campaign was. McCain didn't have a plan for the future, he had an unlicensed plumber to represent "everyman." He became such a strong theme for McCain that by the end of the election, he was as much of a running mate as Sarah Palin. And how appropriate -- McCain dragging along two under-educated, hyper-opinionated, narcissistic characters. Joe should go back to drinking his six-packs and unclogging drains. He does not understand business or politics. Let him get a plumbers license and make a living honestly.
Lance and others.....more then likely unlike you I actually watch all forms of media to get a over all well rounded view and multiple sides of the story....yes FOX is biased to the Right but MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN for the most part lean to the Left especially MSNBC this year....who got "demoted" for their "unbiased" coverage of the conventions???? and who said yesterday on Morning Joe that he will do everything he can to ensure this president is successful??? I won't even get into the print media.....it would have been nice for ALL media outlets just to present us the American people with the facts and allow us to use the facts to make a choice. Rather then give us their opinion and ignore stories that may make a candidate look bad. If the major media outlets put as much attention and effort into the investigation they did on Sarah Palin and Joe the plumber...the next day afer Joe's question we knew his life history, I find it curious why his civil rights aren't being protected by the ACLU and other groups who usually are all over civil rights violations. You have people doing in depth govermental record checks on him for what reason? Assuming it is just someone in that department doing a check out of curiousity having nothing to do with either campaign...still his right of privacy with all the various background checks has been violated yet no one seems to care.
My husband and I agree with Joe. Spreading the wealth from someone that has worked hard for their money and giving it to someone that has not earned it is steeling. No matter what their net or gross income is. We also agree that the American people needs a watch group to watch our government. If the American people had been watching sooner, then we would not be in the financial crisis now. Joe, like any other American, had the right to ask Obama or any other candidate a question. That is one of our rights as Americans. People need to leave him and Sarah Palin alone
All the vitriol has encouraged me to go to Joe's website, buy his book and see what he's about. By the way, to those who criticize Joe for charging to get his watchdog group going and making a living from it, more power to him - we call that entrepreneurship. Of course, it sounds as though those who disagree with this must believe that, it should be run by the government and be "free". Just remember, the only people who get things "free" from the government are those who never pay taxes. This includes ALL government employees, who I as a free market employee, give them to pay their taxes. Charles Rangle, Congressman from New York comes to mind. Tax dodger par-excellance.
Dear Boston Globe:
Who is Joe fronting for? Somebody's paying the bills and I'll bet it ain't Joe. And I suspect they have an agenda broader than "being a watchdog" and "dreaming the dream". (Joe's site says he's a "movement" now. Hmmm. Wonder just how he means that?).
Sounds like time for some more "unfair questions" of this (un) common man. He's got "republican plant" written all over him. How about a little investigative reporting, Globe?
Why are some of you so critical and criticize Joe the plumber .He is an average person who is not perfect as none of us are. The first one who is perfect cast the first stone at this man. Why can't you be proud that as an American he (Joe) did stand up and ask a question to Obama. I do not care what political side you are on, it will be a sad day when we as Americans are kept from speaking up and asking questions. I don't know maybe I just haven't had any of that kool aide that apparently has been passed around. You choose not to question Obama, and his judgement a man who now knows U.S. security secrets and will be in command of our wonderful Country, but you question an average Joe for just asking a question.
Maybe soon someone will launch a watchdog website to hold Joe accountable....only it will not have all those HTML errors in it. LOL
I hope Joe didn't spend the money he made from his 15 minutes of fame on that webmaster instead of paying his back taxes and other debts.
What a country, huh?
Joe, if you are reading this: Please kill yourself!
I've watched the actual "Obama talks to Joe" video....Sen. Obama clearly explains his tax plan to this guy and tells him about the tax break he'd get....at the end of their talk, Joe smiles and the crowd around them cheers....now Joe says the senator was aggressive and confrontational. Joe also says he SHOULD pay higher taxes, not rich people. My issue is the fact that Joe approached the Senator with deception in his heart. The premise of his question was a lie, his personal narrative was a lie and his post conversation reaction was an apparent lie. Meanwhile, Sen. Obama was being open, honest and respectfully engaging him in good faith..Joe was obviously looking for a "gotcha" moment,instead he got an honest response from a politician.
cgrier, exactly.
Obama explained his tax plan to Joe exactly as it's been posted on his campaign website for over a year. Joe is an ideologue who disagrees with a progressive tax table in favor of a flat tax. He also disagrees with Social Security. But Joe is a opportunistic hypocrite who has benefited from government assistance previously. Had Joe been campaigning for Ron Paul, he'd have a lot more credibility. And McCain/Palin would have a lot more credibility if they had chosen a real Republican who doesn't owe back taxes or doesn't disagree with what the MAJORITY of the electorate OBVIOUSLY want, to put up as the poster boy for 'Real America.'
Why is it that all the positive comments for McCain /Palin/Joe the plumber all seem to come from a segment of the electorate that murders the english language?? And let's not forget basic spelling errors!! Americans should be thrilled that our president-elect is a brilliant man who will be a role model for future generations. So get an education, speak the english language as it was meant to be spoken and then please feel free to criticize our government ...that's your privilege!
he needs to get busy and go on with his job instead of trying to be watching PRESIDENT OBAMA , business must be very slow for him to spent as much time as his spends talking about THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES {WHETHER HE LIKES IT OR NOT }, if it was that important he should of been watching HIS "FRIEND BUSH " IN THEIR REPUBLICAN WORLD AND THIS CAOS economy ,war and i can go on , WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPEND , no one made it public to watch him , so go find jobs to do the right way and leave the man do his job ,FACT IS REPUBLICANS FU*K IT ALL UP[SINCE YOU WANT OT WATCH SOMEBODY},- IT CANT GET NO WORSE SO DONT WORRY TOO MUCH , JOE STICK TO PIPES, YOU STARTING TO LOOK DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION AND THATS NO GOOD B-NESS GET A NEW JOB IF ITS THAT BAD.
Kudos to Joe ! Wishing you luck with this. Just watch your back, lots of psycho lefties out there. We need more and more watch sites on this new administration before they completely destroy the U.S.A. as we knew and loved it before.. Ken ex. 104th Engr. Bn A.R.N.G.
Joe, you are a joke. You are no plumber without a license and the only way you could have a plumbing business of your own is if you hired a plumber with an actual license.
What you are is a right winged extremist who's kind has put this country in the toilet.
I would suggest you pay your taxes like a good citizen and crawl back into your hole. It's people like you that are destroying our great country.
Fox News reports that Joe the loser was on Welfare (alleged socialism) twice. Why? .... according to "The Loser" it was owed to him because he paid in to the "system" ... the hyprocisy and humor continues folks ....
Wow he even wrote a book and is charging a $15 for a "freedom" membership to his web-site. This guy doesn't waste anytime.
Hey Plumb boy, you are a total joke!!! Pay your taxes first then start complaining about raising them. The only thing you inspire is that even an idiot like yourself can get a little air time to do something good. You'll probably screw that up and blame someone else, just like the entire GOP. By the way, your called a "handyman" --- that specializes in plumbing.
cgrier, you nailed it.
What I want to know is wether Joe 'everyman' was put up to the confrontation and by who(Fox News?). Obama answered the question in a polite, calm and reasonable manner. You could see in the perplexed and consternated look on Joe's face, that the details were going completely over his sweaty head. Why the hell was he asking the question if he was'nt interested in the answer. Joe just comes across as completely ingenuine.
People like me are not against Joe because the values he proports to represent. I dont like him because something stinks about the whole saga. Most people dont know what Joes motivation really is (Money) but have not been fooled.
He was fantasically convenient symbol of the sopposed 'everyman'. When people defend him they talk in those metaphoric terms as well. The thing is - you have to be OF that thing if you want to be a symbol if. The real everyman has much higher moral standard that this piece of s'''. The 'real' everyman has made their choice.
BD, "Spreading the wealth from someone that has worked hard for their money and giving it to someone that has not earned it is steeling." You and your husband would agree, then, that Joe the Plumber is a thief, since he took someone else's hard-earned money (maybe yours!) while he was on welfare. What a colossal hypocrite he is!
Hey Plumb boy, you are a total joke!!! Pay your taxes first then start complaining about raising them. The only thing you inspire is that even an idiot like yourself can get a little air time to do something good. You'll probably screw that up and blame someone else, just like the entire GOP. By the way, your called a "handyman" --- that specializes in plumbing.
I wonder what "Joe the plumber's" baby mama is thinking? Maybe his 15 minutes of fame and his new "Watchdog" antics will help him catch up on his back child support and back taxes! The fact that a non plumber's licence, back tax and child support oweing guy from Ohio can get the attention of the national media shows how shallow we can be as a country. This guy was actually signing autographs! I would like to personally thank John McCain for choosing Sara Palin as a running mate and using "Joe the Plumber" as the symbol of his economic policies. That definitely paved the way for Obama! Only God knows what would have happened if McCaine won on Tuesday. We probably would have seen Joe the Plumber in his cabinet has as one of McCaine's Chief Economic Advisors!
Lighten up, everyone. Joe the Plumber is yesterdays news. Let him be a "watchdog," let him try to keep Obama in line. You know, you gotta feel sorry for Joe and Fox News and all these other racist, homophobic, anti-American dunces. The rest of us are out partying, jumping for joy because, after 8 long years we're finally free. What do these loser have but their sour grapes? We have a real leader again, people. Instead of tearing down Joe the Plumber, lets ignore him and focus on what a wonderful world we'll have if we all work together, without the hillbilly part of the Republican party in control.
Enough about this whack job. He's nothing more than a garden variety opportunist looking to make a quick buck off of sensationalism. He's a walking tabloid!
I love all you people who give Joe hell and say all the hateful stuff! If you all had the courage to look in the mirror you would realize how imperfect you are you cowards. Its okay though because normal thinking people see your stupidity.
This is for the people who have commented on this website against Joe and Sarah. Have you ever employed anyone, made out a paycheck to an employee or even actually paid any taxes other than what is mandatorily taken out of a paycheck you may have received? If not, how can you make a judgement one way or the other? This Obama mania will or will not be seen for what it is in the next 4 years or maybe not (the way our media portrays these years to come.) But just remember candidates will say anything to get elected, watch what he does in office, also watch congress closely. Go for it Joe, I for one will be with you.
I don't blame Joe the Plumber for trying to cash in. If anyone is to "blame", it is McCain and Palin for exploiting the guy. As an Obama supporter, I was a bit alarmed that the attacks on Socialist Barack seemed to be catching on. However, like the rest of the McCain campaign, it was all too little, too late.
If Joe can make something of this, more power to him. If the Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannity's end up casting him aside as yesterday's news, that shows how phony they are in ignoring this common man who just spoke his mind.
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Gt off of Joe and start worrying about the next 4 yrs. Obama has got a Tiger on his hands the same as McCain would have. We need to be totally aware of what Congress and our Government is doing. If we do not watch them and give them a free hand, we are in serious trouble and if we do not make our voices know, they will go as far as they can. So write, speak up, be an American and and get off of Joe. I wonder what would have happened if one of you had asked the same question. Think about it, you would be in Joe's shoes now. I was let down by my Country during an unpopular war and still I am trying to get my faith back. Maybe I will. I am writing so that I can get rid of my demons
GREAT JOE!!! We need more people like you and your watchdog site to make sure Obama and the rest of the mob in WA does whats good for the people and our country instead of whats good for them.
Joe doesn't have the brains to lead or likely in any way be involved in a watchdog group.
I mean, has anybody heard the guy talk since that Youtube moment?
Like Palin, he's got a taste of how the other side lives and he ain't goin' back to Maggie's farm no more.
I am glad someone stood up to Obama without his teleprompter and we heard what he is really going to do. Good luck to the U.S.A.
Next to Palin, Joe, you're the biggest joke, aka.: Mascot, of the Republican party. If you had any brains, you would not have embarred yourself on National T.V. the way you and Palin did. By the way, how did you figure that being practically the homeless that you are, you were better off being Republican? As far as myself and the rest of the world knows, you don't make any way near $250,000.00. Anyone with brains would have figured out that you were better off under Obama's plan and that you were just a Joke for the McCain campaign. Where are your friends now? .. Off to a better life and you, off to your shack.
You people are really mean. The guy Joe just asked a question, it's more than you do, all you do is bash people. I am so glad that I am not a liberal, I have more respect for myself that to bad mouth another person. Ye without sin cast the first stone. This country will not unite 48% of Americans did not vote for your candidate, I feel sure that they will not want to follow in step. to socialism. You liberals just won the greatest victory and you are still whining and complaining. I am thinking about quitting my job with health benefits and let you people take care of me. I need a check, health insurance, gas for my car, food for my family. The President is still living in government housing. I hope he has room for me.
I agree that some things may need to change but I am not for money that I earn to be redistributed to someone else that does not earn it. I am a christian that is active with helping to spread God's love in my community. I believe in helping thy neighbor but I feel that it should be my choice as to how I help not the governments. I did vote for John McCain and Sara Palin. I am not ashamed of that at all. We all need to remember words of Thomas Jefferson. "A government that is big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take everything you have away from you" I don't want anything from our gov't.
"Joe the Dickhead" - This guy knows absolutely nothing about anything. anyone who makes only 40k a year but is all concerned about people making 250k+ having to pay taxes has got to be an absolutely moron. And may i say that as a republican, "Joe the Plumber" in no way represents anything the republicans stand for, endorse, or even condone.
Hey, Joe, just go away....
How about if Joe the Plumber started his *watch* by paying Joe the Taxes?
Isn't it funny how Mccain took this man a nobody and has turned him into a somebody when the rest of us here in AZ who are blue or white collar workers, single struggling parents, or married with children who are struggling to feed their kids. What about all of us? Now, it might sound like i'm jealous, however I'm MAD! It is people like him who are dividing our country in the first place. Joe the Plumber wants to hold everyone else accountable who is not a republican, BUT why hasn't he held Bush accountable for the mess our country is in, since Bush is the one who placed us here to begin with.
To Michale who wrote about Carrie P was it? If 48% of Americans were frightened by what President Elect Obama said about his taxation, why or why did he wipe the floor with John Mccain? I think Michael that it was a good thing for Joe to ask a question that he didn't or still doesn't understand, my problem is this> Here is AZ under Mccain's senate rule, people have had to leave to move to another state for proper health care. Mccain only thought that this guy Joe would help him win the White house and guess what? It failed. What about the rest of us "We the People"? We spoke and we won! The sad part is Mccain thought he had AZ votes in the bag, but when you forget your own people, then there is a HUGE problem. That next and final fact is that Joe the plumber is milking this 5 min of fame and the fact that he wants to be a watchdog for what and for whom? It is people like you both who are dividing our country! Joe doesn't need to watch anyone for me, he should be holding Bush accountable for placing this country in the toilet in the first place instead of trying to watch a brilliant man run our country in Jan 09.
Oh wait! I just thought of something, maybe he wants to watch Obama so he can learn something from him because Joe doesn't know dick about what he is talking about! He asked his question now go away! What a loser, a deadbeat for a father, a man who owes back taxes and more. Someone said, he didn't ask for this, well it was given to him and now Joe's life is up for the taking! He should have paid his child support and back taxes instead of thinking Obama's tax plan was crap to begin with! He further wants to buy this plumbing business from his boss, he doesn't make enough money to do so and if I were the IRS, I'd be looking very, very closely at his taxes this year and hammer him to the wall.
One wonders when the Dumbocrats will allow every American to have a voice, even in opposition to NObama. Quid pro quo=something for something. The voters will forget and get what they deserve. Try to remember who you voted for!
When you vote for an Idol, a man with a questionable past, questionable friends, known ties to terrorists and a socialist. Joe and Tito feel their way they do just like every dumbocrat out there does. They are entitled to their voice being heard, just ass your are. DO YOU REMEMBER WHY? It's guaranteed by the United States Bill of Rights. Your can no longer squash theirs than yours.
"Joe the plumber" has paid his taxes, I wonder if that guy of Nov 6th comment paid his? Give this man a break and let him get on with his life,who knows he may just make very good watchdog. God knows.we all are going to bevigilent in the coming few years.
you cares about Joe the plummer! 15 minutes came and left. Move on Joe, let Mary the teacher have her run for fame
After reading much of this website (gotten here by mistake) I now know why I prefer company of Republicans.......guys, hatred begins in your heart but it can eat you up. Try caring and understanding and just playing nice. I realize I'll be ostracized for being "simple" but wouldn't your Mom and Gramma say the same thing. Don't beat up on each other..we're all on the same playground.
Sam the Plumber can do whatever the heck he wants. As long as my toilet flushes, I'm fine.
Its so sad how much judgement and hatred that is said here. I hear a lot of people out here that are truly ignorant of the real facts. They simply go by what they hear from others around them and by what the media tells them in which the media is all about spreading lies and hatred. These people don't even have a clue as to "why" they believe this, they're simply just choosing to follow the herd. You start asking them questions as to "why" do you believe this and they can't answer because they don't know, they just heard it that's all and its more exhiliarting to them to join in the crowd. More people need to stand up for whats
right not go off of hearsay. People are doing this to themselves. Business owners are te ones who are supplying the jobs, raise their taxes and guess what, more peoople outta jobs, then what? Sad situation. You have to work for what you get. People want someething for nothing now days. Whatever is easiest. That will never get youwhere you really want to go or bring lasting personal satisfaction. I start to think, how do YOU really know the truth about joe, have you actually been right there with him in his life??? Judgement is not a good thing and will not make you superior.
Joe the plumber has affairs, any doubts watch closely youwill find.
Thats all i can say.
Joe finally admitted that his parents were on welfare for 2 times, and that he himself received welfare. Can we expect his child(ren) to be on welfare if he doesn't pay child support? How does this compute with his harangue against socialism? He tries to clean it up by saying he/they eventually made it without welfare. What it means to me that he believes the stereotypes of Blacks being welfare recipients when the truth is there are more Caucasians on welfare. Joe is proof of "abusing" welfare from not learning from his parents and his experience. rt
Is anyone here concerned about a Citizen of this country having his life scrutinized because he asked a simple question? When did Freedom of Speech stop existing in this Country? Why are you not outraged that the privacy of this man has been violated and done with Government computers? Since when did we become like Russia or China, where the citizens cannot speak their minds??
It is none of our business what Joe has done in his life and if the media were a little bit more responsible and less biased, we'd know a lot more about all the questionable relationships of Mr. Obama. Like the slum lord Tony Resco, who is in jail, Just one of the many examples of blindness from the Cool Aid drinkers.
Oh for heaven's sake. "Joe the Plumber" has absolutely NOTHING on that website but various ways for you and I to send him money. There's the "Freedom Membership" at $14/year; and then there's corporate "Friendships," and (wait for it) the "Shop Joe" merchandise. Other than that, there's 3 paragraphs each in the "home" and "about us" sections (with misspelled words, I might add). It's all fluff...and a way for Joe Wzzzzlllbr-or-whateer-his-name-is to not have to work and still rake in the money. I'm originally from Toledo too, and believe me, there are a lot of hardworking, honest, taxpaying people there. Joe isn't one of them. The Republicans made him...let them support him.
Oh for heaven's sake. "Joe the Plumber" has absolutely NOTHING on that website but various ways for you and I to send him money. There's the "Freedom Membership" at $14/year; and then there's corporate "Friendships," and (wait for it) the "Shop Joe" merchandise. Other than that, there's 3 paragraphs each in the "home" and "about us" sections (with misspelled words, I might add). It's all fluff...and a way for Joe Wzzzzlllbr-or-whateer-his-name-is to not have to work and still rake in the money. I'm originally from Toledo too, and believe me, there are a lot of hardworking, honest, taxpaying people there. Joe isn't one of them. The Republicans made him...let them support him.
will it be joe the plumber and sara palin for president in 2012.
Watchdog? Isn't his chosen profession plumbing? Why wouldn't he want to get back to work? If I'm a carpenter, I'm going to want to get back to my hammer and nails, if I took time off to be on someone's campaign. If I'm an architect, I'm going to want to get back to the drawing table. Why isn't Joe eager to get back to work? What's wrong? Is this guy even a plumber? Does he have a plumbing job to go back to? Has he ever done plumbing a day in his life?
Watchdog? Isn't his chosen profession plumbing? Why wouldn't he want to get back to work? If I'm a carpenter, I'm going to want to get back to my hammer and nails, if I took time off to be on someone's campaign. If I'm an architect, I'm going to want to get back to the drawing table. Why isn't Joe eager to get back to work? What's wrong? Is this guy even a plumber? Does he have a plumbing job to go back to? Has he ever done plumbing a day in his life?
The system works and the imminent fizzling sound coming from Joe's half-baked career as a mouthpiece for middle America will attest to that.
God bless America!
Honestly, you guys need to stop feeling so threatened by Joe.
Joe is like most people who has their ups and downs in life. He dared to ask a question to the Great O and his life was turned upside down. Tis just like libs to try and censor a guy who thinks differently from you. After enduring the tedious background checks why should he not try and do something positive with this new fame he has? He has already endured the negative side that comes with fame, why not take part in the positive side too?
ONLY IN AMERICA COULD SOMEONE WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT POLITICS CAN HAVE A POLITICAL WEBSITE.......... CASE IN POINT... FOXNEWS.COM
At least Joe got to talk to Obama!!!! I wanted to ask Mccain and Sarah a few quetions about some of their tax and health care progrqms but I couldn't get close enough because of all the body guards.!! Does that tell you anything??
"Joe is like most people who has their ups and downs in life. He dared to ask a question to the Great O and his life was turned upside down. "
(A) Joe also had a choice to quell the flames, and he chose to become another piece of fodder the RNC to champion and take a dump on when it's all over. Ask Sarah Palin where McSane is now that her wardrobe is being repoed?
Joe did not shy away from the cameras nor the spotlight...even commenting on the state of Israel (lol). It is completely fair game. This is the hard life of politics. Keep your nose clean, and you won't have much dirt.....Joe thrust himself to ask Obama a question, became a talking point for "every American", as Joe embraced his newfound fame, and has been made a joke even by the party with which he supports.
Exploitation. Palin was exploited and tossed. Ol Joe the "plumber" was exploited and tossed, and he still tries to extend his 15 minutes of fame. Singer, Politician, Political watchdog. Yeah, ok. You cronies who defend this guy for exposing his own self to open media fire are the same cronies that support him and his "watchdog" group....but put Bush in office.
But remember the Righty talking point from May to September , "The Fundamentals of the Economy are sound". Then in 2 weeks..."we are in a crisis" and McCain wants to "suspend" his campaign. Get these loons outta here. Including Joe.
Enough of this moron!
Seems all that the liberals do is listen only to 1 side and don't even bother to educate themselves with listening to both sides and figuring out what really makes logical sense with all this. All they really know how to do is try and bash the other side simply because thats what all the others do along with media. You speak as if you absolutely know this joe guy personally, how can you judge him that way? Whats wrong with putting your passion to work for you? You are making the statement that you know exactly why he is doing what he's doing, how could possibly know that? The truth is you feel threatened somehow by this guy or palin because you're missing something yourself. How do you think this actually solves anything? I think things have to get this bad in order for people to wake up and see the light. I just don't think its a positive thing to bash someone you don't even pesonally know. Even if you personally know them its still a negative. This world needs more positive not negative. By talking this hatred you're only hurting yourself and not getting anything accomplished. Why is there so much vindictiveness and hatred out here? I don't agree with obama's plans and didn't vote for him and don't trust him, but I don't hate him and I wish him luck with this job. How is it if anyone asked obama about his past relations that its okay that he side steps the question and pushes aside but yet everyone is so quick to dig up so much dirt and assumptions about palin, mccain, joe, etc.? I think joe is doing a positive thing. Whats the big deal whether he chooses to go back to plumbing or try something different? And its already been determined that he doesn't need a license to work under his employer. Everyone has a choice to think, say, do and behave as they wish. Right now you're choosing to stay in the negative by these remarks. I normally stay away from this type of thing because of all the hateful words I see but I stumbled across this site because I wanted to find joe's website and I somehow felt compelled to read some of these comments at the end and just couldn't help from voicing my opinion. I just wish everyone could be more united and loving and supportive instead of so angry and hateful towards others. I am choosing to support obama with his new presidency siimply because it doesn't get me anywhere to be angry and negative.
I am astonished at the number of negative comments recorded here about Joe. As a citizen of the US, his questions and concerns regarding Mr. Obama's proposed disbursement of our money were legitimate and relevant, since this candidate appears to exhibit socialistic leanings not compatible with our democaratic, capitalist society. The attacks on Joe personally--who was NOT running for office--are pointless and irrelevant. Au contraire, the personal life of Obama--who WAS running for office--includes a history of relationships with terrorists and other anti-American sorts. Said history is significant and ought to be viewed as highly suspect for a proposed leader of our people. Yet I see little or no mention of this here. Since he has in fact been elected, we will likely get what we deserve.
14:57, 14:58, 14:59... Sorry, Joe. Time's up.
I have to say this is quite entertaining. I am a registered Republican and voted for Barack and am proud of it. Joe the plumber needs to make his first assignment President Bush. If I am not mistaken, it was he, his congress and his appointed justices that took away most civil liberties involving our privacy rights. Where were the watchdog groups then? Was blackwater (Cheney's private army) popping up at people's doors theratening them if they opened their mouths. WAKE UP PEOPLE! "Real Americans", the one's that supported Palin and McCain.... guess what. You had your chance of voting and you picked the wrong candidate twice. Now it was the democrats turn and I am glad. Why does everyone forget that teh Bush's are in Oil and have been in bed with the Bin Laden's for years... How could "Real Americans" igonre that. The liberals are the only ones who bring up those issues. Those are the true Americans . the one's that are calling out Bush, Cheney and McCain for profittering off of the war in Iraq. Lastly, I work for AIG and all my coworkers are unsure if we will have jobs every mornign we wake up.. Yet your dear President still wants to bail them out.. Instead of eliminating golden parachutes, they will be 'limiting'? them. I wont get my measly 400.00 bonus this year. Hope Liddy, Cheney and Bush go hunting and shooot eachother.
To the guy that insulted liberal spelling... stop trying to keep us in the box!
Do you guys really think that smart business people making over 250k are going to have a reduction of their take home due to taxes? Commodities, services, materials all will increase in cost to the consumers (typically lower to middle class) while the profit margin that the business owner takes home remains the same. Sadly, wages will not increase accordingly and jobs will become more scarce with expectations from business owners to produce more for less. This is a typical game between the liberals and conservatives going back and forth. The conservatives will take office and reduce overall taxes, profit margins escalate for a few years; then liberals take over, taxes are increased, cost of materials, commodities, and services escalate to make up the difference and the business owner is still taking home his now escalated profit. Isn't this fun? And when do you think we're going to get off of this train?
I for one am getting a little tired of people trying to stop anyone with a different view from talking. Regardless of a plumbers license or anything else. Joe the plumber had a valid point. I've heard people try to say it was staged. How? Obama came to his street and I don't see how anyone could have planted someone and convinced Obama to invite them to ask a question, too many variables.
We all should have the opportunity to question all politicians. The Constitution states "We The People" that means all of us. We have the right and the obligation to take an active part in what our politicians do and VOTE accordingly.
OK so Joe the plumber has a website and you have to subscribe. He isn't forcing you to pay anything unlike the $700 Billion bailout which we are forced to pay for. I know people who subscribe to porn sites, again it is their choice and their business if they subscribe or not.
People who are criticizing Joe the Plumber for not having a full fledged plumber's license are showing THEIR ignorance. Trade professions; like plumber's, welders, electricians must do an apprenticeship under a licenced professional. Can YOU "plump"? As for his owed "taxes," how many of the people who are making that a big deal cheat on their own taxes in some way? (I'd be willing to bet it's almost 100%). The comments are snobish, and rude. GO JOE! Hey, and any of you who are in credit care debt trouble, have mortgages you can't pay cause you got yourself in way too deep - SHUT UP! YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!
You go Joe!!!! You've obviously hit a nerve with the koolaid drinkers and they seem to think that just because you have had some 'stuff' to deal with ( i.e., taxe situation--been there done that, my husband and I own a biz and we've had tax stuff happen; you work under a licensed plumber---BIG DEAL!!!!!; I haven't heard much of anything about the child support deal but ...whatever, I'm sure the right thing is being done.) You know what's funny is that a bunch of Obama koolaid drinkers were surveyed about our government leadership and were SO CLUELESS!!!! It's scary how so many people will vote for someone just so they don't have to vote for someone else!!! What the heck!!! It really is sad that the sore winners have such loathing for the opposing side and will let their vicious verbage be posted. What happened to civility, and disagreeing without being disagreeable......GROWUP already!!! LET"S ROLL, JOE!!!!!
Just an FYI to everyone out there...
Hello Joe, Just thought i'd drop a line and let you know that we've netted (net = the amount of money after expenses...look it up in your Webster's Dictionary) Yes, Netted around $150,000 on "Joe the Plumber" t-shirts, sweat shirts, coffee mugs, etc. since McCain's people coined the term. Now that orders have fallen off, we're out of the "Joe the Plumber" business.
We were thinking of offereing you a percentage (look up Precentage in your Webster's Dictionary if now sure what it is) of the money, but we know you have your principles and would never accept it. Thanks for being you Joe! Merry Christmas, JaxPublishing
Forget the plumber. The scary part is that McCain's people didnt even look into this guy before they used him as their mascot. Who's he idiot. He make Palin look good. What a bunch of LOSERS.