Lieberman looking for a political home
And the Joe Lieberman drama continues.
The Associated Press reports that Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell is talking to the independent senator from Connecticut caucusing with the GOP.
Lieberman's future in the Senate is in doubt. The Democratic vice presidential nominee in 2000 angered Democrats by openly supporting Republican John McCain for president.
On Thursday, Lieberman met with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, and both the AP and CNN are reporting that Reid is considering yanking Lieberman's chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee as punishment.
But CNN reports that an aide to Lieberman says the senator made clear that was “not acceptable” to him, and reminded Reid that he was one of the senators who wrote the legislation creating the Homeland Security Department, and that’s where he wants to stay. Nothing was resolved in the meeting, and the Lieberman aide told CNN that he still wants to caucus with the Democrats.
"Joe Lieberman has done something that I think was improper, wrong, and I'd like -- if we weren't on television, I'd use a stronger word of describing what he did," Reid told CNN. "But Joe Lieberman votes with me a lot more than a lot of my senators. He didn't support us on military stuff and he didn't support us on Iraq stuff. But you look at his record, it's pretty good."
A Lieberman aide, who requested anonymity because the talks are confidential, told the AP today that Lieberman and McConnell have spoken in recent days about the possibility of Lieberman joining the GOP conference. McConnell spokesman Don Stewart would only confirm that the two men have had recent discussions.
After picking up at least six seats on Tuesday, Democrats now control 57 seats (counting Lieberman and independent Bernie Sanders of Vermont), with three races still undecided. They are trying to reach 60 seats for a potentially filibuster-proof majority.
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Let him go. Lets see how much he likes being in the minority party where half the members hate him. You reap what you sow, Joe.
Lieberman is a traitor. One thing everyone knows is that if someone is a traitor once you can never trust him/her again. Pull his chairmanships and send him running. Let him spend some time with his new friends and let's see how much they trust him. The fact that he said it was “not acceptable” further indicates his arrogance. His acts of disloyalty have ended his usefulness...at any price.
Why put a pig with jowls in the New Dawn Team?
Looking for a home? Try the Alaskan Independance Party. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
"The hand is of Esaw but the voice is of Jacob". This is the full description of Joe Lieberman. He calls himself a Democrat but full alligned with the Republican to the extent of bashing President elect Obama. He should definitely be yanked of his chairmanships of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. He can not serve two masters; he can not eat his cake and have it at the same time. Imagine what he could have done had it been the Obama lost the election to McCain. He should be man enough to relinguish his chairmanships under the control of the Democratic Senate. He can not be trusted.
Joe Lieberman is free to support the campaign of any political party he chooses, but he shouldn't align himself with one party's campaign, while expecting the benefits one would have with the opposition political party.
Senator Lieberman has his own agenda, and I doubt that the Republicans will be happy with him, especially because of his liberal views on social issues. My best advice to both parties is that they cut all political ties with him and let him be a true independent.
The DNC only allows one mindset.
They are the modern day facists!
At least in GOP you can hold seperate opinions!
Lieberman has proved beyond doubts that he is a traitor for democrats. He was given a much higher position up to the level of Vice Presidentship but he was too greedy, too childish and too poor in his thoughts and used his connection with the most influential IPAC thinking that he can get anything what he can think.
Obama and the Democrats must stand up and BOOTED OUT LIEBERMAN FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THROW HIM INTO THE REPUBLICAN SHEEPYARD WHERE ACTUALLY HE BELONGED.
Most of the people posting here should be ashamed. Joe Lieberman stood up for what he thought was right, bucked partisan politics to support the man he felt would make the best President, has been successful and popular, and you feel that he deserves to be punished?
Very sad.
I've got a new political home for Lieberman: Israel.
Prime Minister position in Israel is still vacant. He has double citizenship, he can readily apply for that.
Let him go to the GOP. He's the Dem's 2008 version of Jane Fonda. It's one thing to criticize your party but another to actively campaign against it.
Time for him to quit politics and open up a retail store-How about "Joe the Traitor' for the store name?
Unity has nothing to do with this situation. Joe basically disowned the principles that his constituents elected him to represent. He broke from the Democrats when he lost the primary and won as an Independent. Loyalty to one's principles must be respected and his open support for McCain was more based on personal friendship than the principles he was elected on by the good people of Connecticut. If he is a man of principle then he will openly switch to the Republican party. Good Luck and Good Riddance Joe
Good bye, Joe!!! I still can't beleive you let Obama campaign for you. encouraged him to run for President in 2007, then not only supported McCain, but trashed Obama. Good riddance. Can't wait to see you run again.
Go Team! Rah Rah Rah!
Folks, it's not a football game. It's a country.
Even your Beloved Leader, the Blessed One, preaches reason, tolerance and bipartisanship. Hmm . . . I guess its only a matter of time before you all get disillusiooned with the One start ranting about throwing Barak into a reeducation camp. Maybe every democrat needs a little blue book to carry around so they always remember their talking points . . .
Wow, feel the liberal love....
I thought you guys were all touchy, feely tree-hugger types?
Joe Lieberman has shown more than disloyalty. He has shown a lack of judgement supporting any ticket with Caribou Barbie 1 heartbeat from the Presidency. He'll be more at home with the nit wits on the other side of the aisle. Godspeed Joe!!
Filibuster-proof my gluteus maximus. "I don't belong to an organized political party- I'm a Democrat." While losing Lieberman reduces their chances to override a filibuster, they wouldn't have gained a truly filibuster-proof majority anyhow, even with the three races in contention.
After all, you're talking about a liberal party with a conservative minority- in their own ranks.
It is an illusion to think that Lieberman could count toward the magical 60 even if he keeps his artificial Democratic label. He would leave the majority faster than any of the Blue Dog Democrats.
Of course an individual can support someone out of his party on an individual basis, but Lieberman's malicious speech at the Republican national convention went beyond the bounds of legitimacy. He was repudiated by the Democrats in his own state and he actively worked to destroy both Obama and the Democrats. He belongs with the right wing GOP. "Inclusive" does not mean strengthening those who do not simply oppose but would destroy you.
Lieberman.. You disgusting leprechaun. Good riddance and don't let the door hit you in the ass. Reid! How could you trust this turncoat to not disclose to his Right Wing buddies what the Democrats plans are. Get the hell out. Don't forget, it was the GOP who rescued his pathetic ass with the $10 million dollar infusion into his campaign after he lost the Democratic primaries. GET OUT AND STAY OUT YA SCHMUCK!!!
Lieberman is not a traitor, you dolts. He's an "independent", would that other politicians would follow his lead instead of being led around as a member of either party. This business of blindly following party lines has to stop. Does no one in this country think for themselves these days??? The main political parties whine about each other, they whine about each faction within their midst, basically they rarely "play nice" with others and its time they woke up and realized that isn't what the voters want.
G'bye & good riddance. We won't miss ye a bit, Joe! Now GO!
Mc cain is a nice man, but got hijacked by some bad GOP conservatives during election. Hope he will be tle old Mc cain again. On that record, Joe did not want to desert his friend. So, for unity we must forgive Joe this time.
In response to James --- the problem is not that he supports McCain. He supported McCain so ardently and was so vocally against Obama, even keep nodding his head when they were saying socialist and stuff. The fact was Lieberman would have been as socialist or communist as Obama if he indeed agreed to what he was nodding to. He could have said, well, I support McCain but I will keep from heavily criticizing the Democratic nominee.
He wanted to support McCain, the Dems probably would have lived with that, but his comments about Pres-Elect Obama crossed the line. He didn't have to do that, nor give the support he did, for Gov Palin, who he obviously knew to be vacuous.
So much for his stance on Homeland Security, supporting an incompetent VP choice.
I say take away his chair of the Homeland Security Committee. If he can't live with that, let him enjoy his stay with the GOP. He deserves them.
This is demented. These Democrats who are so hateful towards Republicans needed professional psychological help. It is very sad. They have built up these walls and are making it so partisan, as if a man cannot speak his mind if that man doesn't toe the party line exactly. They want his head on a platter for speaking his mind, and they call him a JUDAS and a TRAITOR. All these people are so screwed up in the head, and they are what is wrong with this country. They want divisions, they want to fight, they want to have this thing where it is US vs THEM, as if reconciling with anyone who agrees with the Republicans about anything is unacceptabe. TRULY SAD how these angry, demented people talk and act...
Lieberman is a traitor? Funny, I thought Democrats and Republicans were supposed to both be Americans. I thought we were supposed to be the same country united in a common cause. Thanks liberals for admitting the lie.
McCain a Republican who often went against his party gets nominated for President. Liberman who goes against his party is called a traitor and is in danger of being punished. When the Clinton administration left office, they trashed the White House in "welcome" of Bush. The Bush administration is going out of it's way to guarantee a smooth transitions for the Obama administration.
I think we know who the real traitors are.
Joe has made his bed - he went to the Republican National Convention on the agreement that he wouldn't talk disparingly about President-elect Obama, but he did not keep his promise. It is one thing to support McCain, but to do so and then to not stand up and take the consequences of his actions, continues to say more about Joe the Opportunist, than any punishment the Democrats rightly have to present.
Typical response from Democatric partisans. Only want sheep in the party. They are not up for any independent thinking. So much for working together. Do hope this sort of thinking will pass but given the Demoncrats past record, may be not.
I remind everyone, he's an Independent - not a Democrat. A traitor to no one. It's the Democrats that failed him when he lost the Democratic primary during his last election. Please don't call someone a traitor who stands up and voices an independent thought.
He sucks.
He sucks.
Joe....go on to the other side where you'll fit right in with the Rongful Right...see how comfortable you'll be with their Anti-Choice, ant-environment positions...you'll be as comfortable as I was watching your smirking face behin McCain and Palin for the past few months.
We won't miss you, but you'll miss us.
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Lieberman not only sided with McCain, but participated in the nasty smear campaign. Let him go.. good riddance...maybe he and Rudy can become BFF
lkoumis - kudos to you for an intelligent, coherent post. The rest of you need to stop with the partisan anger and maybe respect someone who has the nerve to be honest about their beliefs. I don't know about you but I find some of the worst people to associate with are the ones who hide their beliefs and only tell you what you want to hear.
Joe, the Senator from Israel need to resign. He supported McCain, having either an agreement or believing that McCain would bomb Iran. Not hard to figure his motive.
Trial Israel.
I think that Joe did cross the line and deserves to eat some crow, but my party should work to mend the wounds. If he demands the chairmanship as a requirment, then he has to make his own decision as to who he sleeps with.
I didn't mind his campaigning for John, it was the campaigning for the down ticket offices. That was the straw.
Try Israel.
"Say it ain't so, Joe".
For the Righties who say it's fine that Lieberman supported McCain, this Lefty says, OK. However, it is not fine that Lieberman attacked Obama, it is not fine that Lieberman defended Palin, and it is not fine that Lieberman conveniently pretends to support the Democratic agenda. If he wants to cooperate, reach across the aisle in a bipartisan way...let him reach over from the Republican side. That's where all the warmongers live, and that's where Joe belongs, as long as he's a Senator.
You have to understand that Lieberman is a small man and definitely has what I would call a napoleonic complex. He always seems to want to pick a fight with someone, usually arabs or people who want to do drugs or read pornography. On a lot of issues he is a solid democrat and votes accordingly. But he is such a saber-rattling prude that I've been saying for a long time that the democratic party needs to give him the boot (it should've happened in 2006). He's been playing both sides for his own advantage for far too long.
Democrat or Repbulican - it is rare to find a man who has the courage stand up for his true convictions against the railings and criticism. I admire Joe Liberman for standing against the Repbulicans and against the Democrats when the need arose. We need more of our leaders to stop locking their arms and brains together and think about our great country and the neeeds of people (not the party) they represent.
Joe Lieberman is tops in my book! He is a true supporter of ethics and has my vote for anything he does.
He sees what the Democrats are up to and will be a voice to all if they do something un-ethical.
As for Harry Reid and his female Poncho Pelosi, he has no clue, he is a bitter and ignorant man with who can't see further than his nose!
Joe, stick with it! Your the man!
Those of you who call Senator Lieberman a traitor are nothing but a bunch of cowards and sheep ho are only capable of following the so called "Party" (Democrat) thinking . Since when is it unacceptable for an American citizen to support the candidate of his/her own choosing? Senator Lieberman has more courage and has more class than all of you put together. We need more leaders like him who have true convictions rather than blind loylaty to the "Party." Idiots!
Save us please, Mr. Lieberman. A liberal trifecta with a super majority would be a perfect storm. You are America's hope for the future.
Whats wrong with admitting you got treated like a royal for 8 years?
Its a rap joe take it like a man.
I am no Joe Lieberman fan, I voted for Obama and have voted democratic for all of my life. However, all we have heard for the last twenty months is how each candidate could be effective in crossing party lines. Lieberman placed loyalty and friendship, two rapidly diminishing traits, above party politics. Before we all jump to his condemnation, ask yourself when the last time we saw anyone publicly support a friend when they had good reason to believe it would not be in their best interests. If Lieberman is to be removed form chairmanship it should be because there is a better qualified democrat. Given his views on Iraq, there is little doubt that he should be removed from the chairmanship due to his contrary views form the Obama administration. I am not now and doubt i will ever be a Lieberman fan, but I applaud his political courage in supporting his friend, John McCain.
Senator Lieberman is a traitor? To whom; the United States of America? Part of the problem troday is that many of our elected representatives put their party before what's best for our country. I didn't vote for Obama but as he is the president-elect, I wish him great success. I would be happy if he is the best president I've ever seen in my lifetime. At the same time, I've always respected Senator Lieberman and I'm a conservative. Just because I don't agree with all of his views doesn't mean I should call him names or denigrate him. Good people can disagree with each other.
I'm not sure why a former Democrat who once ran with Al Gore for the role of Vice President would feel the need to jump ship and support McCain. By my count, he was the only liberal of any significance who did so (while there were dozens of prominent conservatives who jumped the other way). If his differences with the Democratic party are that great, he shouldn't feel the need to caucus with the Dems and he should volunteer to get out.
If, on the other hand, he was promoting John McCain for some spiteful reason (towards Obama or the Democratic Party), the Democrats have every right not to want him anywhere near their party.
Either way, he's clearly not with the Democrats for whatever reason, and he should not not associate himself with them. He should also not be surprised when he's stripped of his chairmanship. He can still serve on the committe, but I would consider his chairmanship over.
To Joe "we-should-count-all-military-ballots-even-if-sent-after-deadline" Lieberman we owe thanks for eight years of George Bush - what a great gift that was.
Was Lieberman that concerned about his Senate position when he was out there partying with John McCain?....uh I think not!
How about this: let's take Joe at his word. He felt compelled to support his longtime friend, John McCain. That race is over. Let's move on. There's enough "revenge" floating around. I was furious as well when Joe spoke at the RNC Convention, but I say we let it go. Let's ask him to stay with us. He really is a Democrat at heart.
Joe Lieberman is tops in my book! He is a true supporter of ethics and has my vote for anything he does.
He sees what the Democrats are up to and will be a voice to all if they do something un-ethical.
As for Harry Reid, he has no clue, he is a bitter man with can't see further than his nose!
Joe, stick with it! Your the man!
Lieberman deserves to lose the Chair, everyone on the Hill knows it. How could even he complain if it happened. He rolled the dice on a McCain presidency, and he thumbed his nose at the Dems and Obama and did so very boldly and brashly and in the face of his party (if you are in the caucus, you are in the caucus). He stodd in the way of the Dems getting a Senate majority. Now he's talking about healing and working together, well he can work as hard as any other Senator, just from beyond the committee's chair. Maybe the guy can reclaim his status, but he should do so from the bottom of the pile. He earned his place on the bottom, he should get what he deserves.
My wife and I watched almost every speech by both presidential candidates, Barack Obama and John McCain. For some reason (s) Joe Liberman always appeared behind John McCain. Further, when McCain attacked Obama in any issue, Liberman always nodded his head approving everything McCain was saying. Now I know why the DHS is such a dysfunctional department that has wasted billions of taxpayers monies: Joe Liberman who wrote the proposal to create DHS, which by the way, allegedly George W. Bush originally opposed. Remove Liberman from any DHS' senate committee.
Perhaps Lieberman should try Alaska and partner with Palin for a while. She needs all the help she can get.
Its a rap joe take it like a man. He ran to were he thought the grass was greener .
the republican party . big mistake.
Leiberman is NOT any good. He is a WAR-HAWK for Israel. He fits better with the GOP foreign policy alignment then the NEW Democratic alignment anyhow.
As a non-affiliated voter, I find the Democratic Party supporters' reactions posted here to be quite revealing. Lieberman's actions in supporting the surge in Iraq, and the candidacy of McCain, were obviously related to his interest in the security of Israel. I can understand that as a Jew he felt he had to choose between his party and the home of his religion and ancestry. Can Democrat's not see his position in this light? The article also mentions Mr. Sanders of Vermont who switched from the Republican Party to become independent, and now votes with the Dems. Sanders was welcomed by the Dems, but now Joe Lieberman, their former VP candidate, is labeled a damned traitor? Let's be fair to a good man.
Joe "Joementum" has been arrogantly playing both sides and lying to his constituents, and now needs to be taught a lesson. It was his actual and deliberate lies about Obama and his clapping for Palin's rhetoric and lies about Obama that he went too far, and can and should NEVER be forgiven. Sadly, he has too many friends in Congress that need to put aside their friendship and do what needs to be done--give Joe a wake up message by demoting him and if he goes to the GOP, good riddance! Whether he goes to the GOP or gets an ineffective post, Joe will be evicted in 2012 by Connecticut anyway. Write your Senator and DEMAND they do something about Joe, whether they are his friend or not. Let the GOP take him if they want him and let him rot in limbo until 2012 since they only want his vote. In 2012, vote in a real democrat!
Nor only did he betray The Democrats and Obama, he failed to do his job as the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
He gave Bush Carte Blanche to do whatever he pleased, offering no oversight to the Neo Cons treacherous activities. He apparently agrees with Bush and Cheney that the Constitution is nothing but a piece of paper.
He deserves to lose his post. If he wants to be e a bit player, fine, caucus with the Dems, but he should be stripped of any important functions.
My opinion in 2004 was the democrats lost the election because Lieberman was the veep choice, just as sure as McCain lost the election in 2008 because of his veep choice. It is a well known fact that Lieberman puts self above party or nation. He has burned one to many bridges and now must accept the consequences.
I am no Joe Lieberman fan, I voted for Obama and have voted democratic for all of my life. However, all we have heard for the last twenty months is how each candidate could be effective in crossing party lines. Lieberman placed loyalty and friendship, two rapidly diminishing traits, above party politics. Before we all jump to his condemnation, ask yourself when the last time we saw anyone publicly support a friend when they had good reason to believe it would not be in their best interests. If Lieberman is to be removed form chairmanship it should be because there is a better qualified democrat. Given his views on Iraq, there is little doubt that he should be removed from the chairmanship due to his contrary views form the Obama administration. I am not now and doubt i will ever be a Lieberman fan, but I applaud his political courage in supporting his friend, John McCain.
Let him keep his position; let him caucus with the Dems. Based on the evidence, he's more helpful to getting the Dems in the White House when he endorses Republicans than when he runs on Dem ticket.
Thanks, Joe. Couldn't have done it without ya!
People forget that "keeping him on our side", to protect from a fillibuster, is an illusion.
What it actually means is that the dems will continue to be held hostage by a right-wing repub in dem clothing. joe-mentum will use his position to perpetually manipulate the dems.
The dems need to accept that he is a turncoat, accept whatever majority status they have without him, and stop being held hostage to his antics, or the antics of his repub friends.
As I recall, it was the Democratic Party that turned on Lieberman! That is why he was re-elected as an Independent. Memories are short when it is convenient!
I am sadden to read such commits as "Lieberman is a traitor". We elect citizens to stand up and honesty take a stance they believe is for the good of our county. I am considering leaving the Democrat party for no other reason than the lack of civility. These kinds of commits are heard from the people of all age's through out the party. Unfortunately the Republicans are no better with the ranting and raving than the Democrat. If not your mother, I am sure your grandmother would be ashamed at the notion that a United States Senator in considered a traitor for freely acting in manner he believes is best for the country. I don't have to agree with the sentor but am not a traitor either.
"To the victor belong the spoils" a long held AMERICAN political tradition. You reward your friends and you punish your enemies. Sen. Lieberman made his choice and as #7 pointed out is not set to reap the rewards of that choice. I don't see "unity" including those from the Republican Party into the Democrat Party. Good Luck little Joe you'll do well as a junior member of the minority party on the Homeland Security Committee!
When Zell Miller (erstwhile Democrat) disparaged Kerry at the Republican Convention in 2004, I hoped lightning would strike him. But, in truth, he had voted like a Republican all along, so it was not much of a shift for him. Lieberman, on the other hand, mostly voted like a Democrat. He could have said "I'm for McCain" and kept a low profile. But, he didn't. What he did was worse than what Zell Miller did. It went against his instincts, his party loyalty, and common sense. He was wrong on Iraq, and couldn't live with it. So, he made an unholy alliance with McCain. Part of the deal was to disparage Obama. He was no better than Guiliani or Romney. He really seemed to relish it, too. So, good bye, Joe. I wish I could say it was nice knowing you.
James, you're forgetting about all of the "unity" from the Democratic supporters in these comments. Something tells me they missed the memo with all of the "let him rot" comments. Bush pledged to be a "uniter" and both he and his followers were completely full of it. I don't expect anything differently from the other side of the aisle from either the politicians or their followers. Instead, they'll want to "punish" Republicans the same way the Republicans wanted to "punish" the Democrats, and America loses again.
Senate insiders are speculating that Obama could save Lieberman's job by issuing a statement saying he "forgives Joe" and that everyone needs to work together for the good of the country.
If this happens it will not be "for the good of the country". it would be for the good of the GOP.
They want a super majority so bad they can taste it. The Dems won't mind the bitter taste of Lieberman's support of McCain if it means total control of the federal government.
I hope Senator Lieberman acts on his principles and values and rejects any phony act of forgiveness.
Maybe they can employ ole' 'Homeless Joe' as a plumber...
Ayup. Feel the love and unity. Real impressive. Kinda like Chris Matthews kicking Palin while she is down. Real mature. Thanks for sharing the love, liberals. You folks are my kind of people.
Go join the GOP you turncoat jerk.
Lieberman is a quisling of the higest order and he may never be trusted by any party. Lieberman, whilst a Democrat blindly supported Bush and his policies and later he also stumped relentlessly for McCain. How can he possibly have any real connection to the Democratic party? Lieberman is now shamefully playing both of the major parties off of one another in order to hold some power and influence to sooth his ego.
Dear Blogger,
I inadvertently typed GOP instead of DNC. Please make the substitution in my earlier entry.
Jumpin' Joe is what he'll be called as he tries to move over to the Republican Party, but he is way too liberal on many things for them to take him unless they need the one last slot to filibuster. So short of the Dems taking the other 3 seats still up for grabs, Jumpin Joe is about to become a man without a party. His smartest move would have been silence on the presidential race and he came up empty handed (and partyless) because he couldn't lay low.
Please don't beg this grinning one-track idiot. He wants the USA to defend Israel and keep getting Americans killed in the mid-east and has very little else on his mind. He is a minor league politician. Maybe the Republicans can get Sarah to educate him.
See ya Joe, you gotta go. Now get!
Lieberman's a snake. You find a snake in your house, you put it out (or crush it). Best of luck to a Senator that no one trusts....
Come over to the red side Joe. We need someone with a backbone that stands up for what they believe in, even if it is not popular. That is how change really starts.
I wonder if McCain has finally realized how Lieberman USED him for personal political gain? It does not take a Philadelphia lawyer to see through this $3.00 bill. Now that McCain has outlived his usefulness to Lieberman, Mr. Crybaby wants to come home. As a long time Democrat, I say, NO! NO! NO! THAT'S IT!
Lieberman stamped the Democrats in the back. The Democrats shall not cozy up to him, and pamper him because they might need him as the 60th vote to break a possible filibuster some day. That would certainly give him a kingmaker clout
which he might exploit for his pro-Republican agenda, and which he does not deserve.
Lieberman cannot have it 3 ways: independent, retain his position and clout with the support of the democrats, while he supports the Republican agenda. He bet
that he can play 3-way with john McCain, and he lost the game on November 4. Now the winners deserve the Committee Chairmanships, and he deserves to be evicted by the Democrats and send into the exile of his beloved Republican domain. He was very proud to support the Republican ticket, and he deserves the opportunity to facilitate his pride there. After all, John F. Kennedy once said: "Senators who go down to defeat in vain defense of a single principle [Republican for Joe Lieberman], will not be on hand to fight for that or any other principle in the future." I don't think the Democrats should rely on a person
whose loyalty mimics that of Judas Iscariot to fight for their principles in the future.
Sorry, senator, but you have spend your principle for the Republicans! You may seek your rewards in the GOP from now on.
Nikos Retsos, retired professor
while i like lieberman and don't necessarily blame him for breaking ranks and endorsing his good friend, i'm not sure if he hasn't in some way created this mess for himself. he only became an independent (supposedly in name only) when he lost the democratic primary in his bid for re-election (which is telling in and of itself), but to speak at the republican convention is beyond "reaching across the aisle", especially when his remarks included disparaging ones against his party's candidate.
Lieberman should be fired from his chairmanship, the end. Going on the campaign trail and supporting John McCain for President against a united and fired up Democratic Party probably didn't showcase the best judgment, but for those of you that thought he was just doing it to back his buddy, you don't know the half of it.
Lieberman didn't just back McCain. (Personally, as a rank and file Democrat, I wouldn't have had a problem with that.) He went out and publicly backed Republican congressional candidates against Democratic candidates in highly contested districts. Then there was the speaking at the Republican Convention. His speech was over the top and insulting to Democrats. He didn't just back McCain, the guy went nationally and backed the Republican ticket and bashed Obama in public.
There were two Republican Senators, Ludger and Hagel, that were very open about their support for President Obama, and NEITHER one of them went turn coat on their own party by bashing McCain and other GOP candidates, while expressing their support for Obama. Lieberman did. Do you really think that if McCain had won, Lieberman would even be an issue? He would have a post on McCain's cabinet, don't think he wouldn't. Lieberman made a political gamble and he lost. If he had an ounce of integrity, he would have resigned his chairmanship due to the obvious conflict of interest, and considering what he said about Obama during the Repub convention, don't count on Obama to save him.
1. Ok. . ."my senators"? Harry, you are all OUR senators and please don't forget that. 2. Hagel = Hero and Lieberman = Traitor? Four out of one hundred people change their minds on election day and it is the reverse. 3. This was not a mandate about political ideology or party affiliation, it was about CHANGING the tone of Washington. . .meanwhile Liberals are plotting their revenge and Conservatives planning their comeback. 5. Lieberman was RESPECTFUL in regards to Obama, even getting boos when he complimented him. He just decided to back a dear friend, member of the Gang of Fourteen who had PROVEN that he could cross the aisle to get things done. SOLUTION - President Obama can't meddle with Reid and Pelosi directly. But he has promised to change Washington. So, nominate Lieberman to be Secretary of Homeland Security. Perfect match. Shows true, innovative leadership. Demonstrates that the ONLY way that we can get out of this mess is if we ALL work together. Oh, I can't wait for the Conservatives to call that "stupid" and Liberals to call me "dumb". . .but change I voted for and change I expect.
I wish we could have Lowell Weiker back as the senior Senator from Connecticut...
Lieberman should be removed from his chair position for one reason and one reason only - he has done a TERRIBLE JOB with DHS.
Joe Lieberman has disgusted me since he ran with Al Gore in 2000. But, I don't think the Democrats should kick him out of their caucus - strip him of his chairmanship, maybe. Why? A simple quote, from 2400 years ago:
"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."
Sun-tzu
The use of the word traitor is wrong and all posts using it should be expunged.
This has nothing to do with the incoming president. It has to do with Lieberman's poor political choices. He knew he had a Snowball's Chance In Hell of getting tapped by Clinton, Obama or even Edwards BECAUSE of the bitterness between Bill Clinton and Al Gore during Gore's 2000 run. But he became so enthralled with the adulation during the 2000 Gore/Lieberman campaign he put any party or ideological loyalty aside, threw in with the Rebubs in hopes McCain would tap him as his running mate or, after that disastrous jaded Palin pick, a high level position in a McCain White House. So the Democrats are just supposed to roll over and say, "That's OK Joe (Six-Pack), we understand"? Yeah, right. Lieberman put his own advancement above loyalty to the party who gave him the greatest political and personal opportunities. Ironically, the party he's aligned himself with has delivered nothing for this betrayal. He should be punished for his egoism, greed and disloyalty. Betrayal is betrayal.
Repubs posting here are trying to use twisted logic to condemn this straightforward issue. You know it's a partisan system and neither party has clean hands, so can the fake outrage. Unless you're advocating the elimination of political parties (impossible) shut the **** up. It's amazing how Republicans posting here, eating crow after this election, are calling Democrats facists, divisive, etc. Republicans have run on a platform of racial, ethnic, gender and economic divisiveness since the 1960's after Dixiecrats jumped ship during the Civil Rights Movement era. To compare that to Dems rightfully wanting to expunge a traitor from their ranks is offensive and beyond hypocritical. The Repub Party only wants him to shore up their reduced numbers. Dems are treading water waiting for close electioon (re)counts to see if they can get their filibuster-proof majority without Lieberman caucusing with them. But the fact is no matter where he goes he will be put on a VERY SHORT LEASH. No one trusts him, he's a pariah. It's just a matter on who needs him the most.
This has nothing to do with the incoming president. It has to do with Lieberman's poor political choices. He knew he had a Snowball's Chance In Hell of getting tapped by Clinton, Obama or even Edwards BECAUSE of the bitterness between Bill Clinton and Al Gore during Gore's 2000 run. But he became so enthralled with the adulation during the 2000 Gore/Lieberman campaign he put any party or ideological loyalty aside, threw in with the Rebubs in hopes McCain would tap him as his running mate or, after that disastrous jaded Palin pick, a high level position in a McCain White House. So the Democrats are just supposed to roll over and say, "That's OK Joe (Six-Pack), we understand"? Yeah, right. Lieberman put his own advancement above loyalty to the party who gave him the greatest political and personal opportunities. Ironically, the party he's aligned himself with has delivered nothing for this betrayal. He should be punished for his egoism, greed and disloyalty. Betrayal is betrayal.
Repubs posting here are trying to use twisted logic to condemn this straightforward issue. You know it's a partisan system and neither party has clean hands, so can the fake outrage. Unless you're advocating the elimination of political parties (impossible) shut the **** up. It's amazing how Republicans posting here, eating crow after this election, are calling Democrats facists, divisive, etc. Republicans have run on a platform of racial, ethnic, gender and economic divisiveness since the 1960's after Dixiecrats jumped ship during the Civil Rights Movement era. To compare that to Dems rightfully wanting to expunge a traitor from their ranks is offensive and beyond hypocritical. The Repub Party only wants him to shore up their reduced numbers. Dems are treading water waiting for close electioon (re)counts to see if they can get their filibuster-proof majority without Lieberman caucusing with them. But the fact is no matter where he goes he will be put on a VERY SHORT LEASH. No one trusts him, he's a pariah. It's just a matter on who needs him the most.
Zell Miller is long gone and forgotten. Soon, Lieberman will follow. He chose his path. Now, he needs to complete his journey and fade into the sunset , like, Miller. Don't cry, just , bye-bye!
LIEberman can support McCain all he wants. To smear Obama after encouraging him to run makes him the biggest scumbag in the Senate who nobody can work with. No chairmanships that matter for him.
More importantly, they all need to shut the "F" up and do the business of this country as opposed to railing against who took what side on anything. And judging by the responses here, it appears that you are all just as small minded and petty as the whole lot of them
Party label and loyalty means nothing to Joe Lieberman because he's loyal to only one entity - Israel. And as the favorite son of the AIPAC mafia, Lieberman will have equal leverage in either party. So the bottom line is - after a few days feigned outrage, Harry Reid and the Democrats will welcome Lieberman back into fold with absolutely zero penalty for his traitorous behavior.
Hey Ed in #14, if you're going to throw around the word "fascist" please take the time to understand what the word means. You're either a member of the Republican mud slinging club or just stupid. The word fascist describes perfectly the last 8 years of the Bush Administration and Republican Congress - it's a government that is set up for the control and benefit of the corporate and financial systems in society.