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Bush on Iraq, then and now

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor December 16, 2008 04:19 PM

In the latest in a series of exit interviews, President Bush said today that he considered pulling troops out of Iraq in 2006, when violence and US casualties peaked.

"In Iraq, I was deeply concerned about whether or not we would succeed," he said on CNN. "A lot of people in Washington, were saying, let's get out now. And I obviously chose not to do that. But, that was a very difficult period."

"You know, ultimately I had great faith in the universality of liberty," the president added. "I had great faith in our military. I had faith in the Iraqis who had suffered so much. And I could not live with myself, if I had chosen to just leave and leave behind the valor and the sacrifice of a lot of our young men and women. I would have never been able to face their loved ones."

"You know, the military looks at the president and wonder whether or not the president's going to make decisions based upon victory. Or, whether or not the president would be making decisions based upon its political skin. And if you ever make decisions based upon your political skin where troops are in harms way, you as commander-in-chief will have a lot of problems keeping the respect of the military."

Bush also discussed the much-dissected, much-watched episode on his surprise visit to Iraq over the weekend, when an Iraqi reporter threw his shoes at him as a sign of protest and insult.

"I didn't much time to reflect on anything," Bush said, according to a transcript provided by CNN. "I was ducking and dodging. And I -- first of all, it has got to be one of the most weird moments of my presidency. Here I am getting ready to answer questions from a free press in a democratic Iraq, and a guy stands up and throws a shoe.

"And it was bizarre. And it was an interesting way for a person to express himself. I was asked about it immediately after the incident and I said, here's a person that obviously was longing for notoriety and he achieved it. But I don’t feel this is – I’m not angry with the system, I believe that a free society is emerging and a free society is necessary for our own security and peace."

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Worst US President Ever! A complete freakshow. Looking forward to this wack job going away forever.

Posted by CDog December 16, 08 04:35 PM
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Bush freed Iraq from Hussein.

- How many lives would Hussein have taken if he was still in power??

- How many did he take before being ousted (millions upon millions) !!

If we had just left Hussein in power do you really think he would have just sat there like a good boy. He was well known for interfering with other countries: Invaded Kuwait & Iran, Pushing the Kurds to the border with Turkey, Skuds into Israel, Thousands of dollars to Palestinian suicide bombers, etc, etc.

So, do you really think he would have left Afghanistan alone. Democracy was the last thing he wanted for the region (it interfered with his plans). He had ‘Billions upon Billions’ in wealth, and he would have used it to fund insurgents, weapons & suicide bombers in the Afghan situation.

If we had not invaded Iraq all those insurgents would have just gone to Afghanistan (has our’ illustrious media’ ever pointed this out – ever!!).

The Surge worked;………. and now Security & Democracy are taking hold (and will continue as long as Obama doesn’t act like a fool & pull the troops out too early – sorry libbers).

The people of Iraq OWE Bush !!!

Posted by Mr Reality December 16, 08 05:08 PM
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Mr Reality, I think you need a reality check, Saddam is estimated to have killed about 100,000 Iraqi civilians, in 20 years of his dictatorship.

After the US invasion, its estimated that between 100,000-250,000 civilians died in only 5 years.

Posted by mtbr1975 December 16, 08 05:36 PM
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Mr Reality:
Your comments are pure fantasy. Hussein was never a threat to the US.
However many lives he would have taken, it would have paled in comparison to the lives lost at the height of the Iraqi civil war in 2006 (50+ a day in Baghdad alone). There are lots of bad guys out there (Sudan, Myanmar, Zimbabwe, N. Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.). We can't get them all.
Our containment strategy was working. The 1991 war is known as the 100 hour was because it was that easy. American dead were in the low hundreds.
Hussein was a check on Iranian power in the region. That check is gone.
Sorry "connies" or whatever silly term you want to use.

Posted by Mark December 16, 08 05:39 PM
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Mr. Reality, you, along with bush, are an idiot. Noone owes bush anything except a rope. Invading another country was not our business. He got revenge for daddy and we have thousands of dead soldiers and dead iraqis. Saddam knew how to handle those bad people. You need someone like that over there. totally different way of life from over here.

Posted by rik December 16, 08 05:52 PM
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I think that the new G. W. Bush library in Dallas, Texas should have a special room with "THE SHOE" tastefully displayed on a velvet stand behind bullet proof glass for all of the faithful visitors to admonish or admire depending upon their politcal and/or sexual orientation! At least get a bronzed copy, if the original shoe is needed in court as proof of democracy in action in Iraq.

Posted by quincyite December 16, 08 06:20 PM
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CDog, the only whack job here is the one who thinks Bush was a worse president than Carter.

Posted by Dave December 16, 08 07:02 PM
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And how many more lives around the world have to be sacrificed to keep your beliefs in place Mr (Un) Reality? According to the March 2008 Guardian: "Estimates of the Iraqi deaths caused by Saddam's regime amount to a maximum of one million over a 35-year period (100,000 Kurds in the Anfal campaign in the 1980s; 400,000 in the war against Iran; 100,000 Shias in the suppressed uprising of 1991; and an unknown number executed in his prisons and torture chambers).... Source(s), from the WHO to the surveys of Iraqi households, puts the average well above the Saddam-era figure. Those who claim Saddam's toppling made life safer for Iraqis have a lot of explaining to do." Wonder why Bush got shoes hurled at him.

Posted by Plotinus December 16, 08 07:33 PM
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Will all you bozos keep bashing George Bush for all of Obama's term in office as well? Get over it already!

Posted by bf5113 December 16, 08 08:39 PM
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I wonder how Saddam Hussein handled shoe throwers at press conferences .... oh, that's right, he didn't have press conferences, and the guy would have been shot.

George Bush is a great man, kept the U.S. safe for the better part of this decade, and did a much better job than either of the silver spoon idiots, Gore and Kerry, would have done.

Let's hope we survive the 4 years of the Messiah as president.

Posted by Reality Check December 16, 08 08:49 PM
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Mr Bush has lived in a world of his own creation. For a while there the press allowed him to substitute his narrative for reality. Now that he is no longer popular he still lives in his own factitious world but now he is viewed by most as the emperor with no covering. His family will be spending much of their lives trying to erase the memory of this imposture and replace it with a myth that he was in touch with this world.

Trying to refute the statements of a liar like Mr Reality is to give creedance to a Bush narrative. Ignoring it is the best retort.

Posted by Ron M December 16, 08 09:21 PM
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what were the presidents bodyguards doing thats what i want to know they are spose to take a bullet for the president but wont take a shoe for him? thats embarrassing.....

Posted by piripi December 16, 08 09:34 PM
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I know the liberal left hate GWB. I won't waste my time trying to convince you how vindictive , meanspirited and destrcutive (to the US) you have been these last 8 years. But I will point out 3 things that GWB has done as president: 1) he didn't let politics color his decisions adn he led from his heart not the polls. Let's see if we can say the same thing in 2012 (or God forbid 2016). 2). You can argue till the cows come home about the validity of us getting into Iraq in the first place, but what is FACT is that when we leave, there will be 50 million Iraqis who have been liberated and their children will be blessed to live under the grace of freedom. What do think that show tosser would be going now if he had tossed at Saddam? 3) Bush has been incredibly active and committed to creating an African continent that is free of unnecessary desease realted deaths (aids, and more). You won't read about this becasue it doesn't fir the bush-bashing agenda. I haven't agreed with everythign this president has done, but he never has deserved the hate some people haev for him.

Posted by Tony December 17, 08 09:01 AM
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You ‘Liberal Children’ were ‘Fed Fantasies’ (by the Media) & actually Believed Them.

Saddam Hussein started a war with Iran that killed 1.2 million {soldiers & civilians (on both sides, - ~ 600,000 Iraquis) at least 50 thousand (Iranieans) with WMD – chem... agents]. He probably executed at least 200 Iraqis, with his own hand. His sons & henchmen raped & pillaged over the country daily. He pushed the Kurds to the Northern Border with Turkey and probably killed 50-100 thousand (probably a very low number), including 5000 with WMD (chem. Agents). All this in the Northern Protected ‘No- Fly Zone’ where he Lit-Up our Jets Daily.

Most ‘Citizens of Iraq’ were terrified to Move. Let alone speak out, etc., etc.

He tried to Burn-Out & Drain the Marsh at the mouth of the Tigris-Euphrates River, that the Shiites used for subsistence – creating an environmental catastrophe & Starving & Killing the Shiites. All this in the Southern Protected ‘No- Fly Zone’ where he Lit-Up our Jets Daily.

I could go ON & ON & ON.


Also it is well known that the Liberals have gone out of their way to exaggerate the civilian deaths since the invasion. Most of those killed were fighting us: the Fedayean (remember them – when was the last time the media has mentioned them) & Insurgents (who always claim it is civilians who are killed – when we all know the vast majority of the time it IS Insurgents - & Unfortunately sometimes THEIR children,….. or Hostages they have taken) Etc., Etc., Etc. Or fighting between Various factions Suni- Shiites (& not the Coalition)

So, Liberal Children “STOP LYING”, or just stop being ‘Naïve Gullible Children’ as you believe (for your Political Purposes) all that Garbage fed to YOU by the ‘Liberal Indoctrinators’.

Posted by Mr Reality December 17, 08 01:08 PM
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