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Et tu, Joe?

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor December 10, 2008 12:52 PM

Dragging out his 15 minutes of fame, Joe the plumber had not-so-kind words for John McCain, who tried to make him a symbol of his differences with Democratic rival Barack Obama on taxes.

Samuel J. Wurzelbacher confronted Obama over his tax plans during an Ohio campaign stop, prompting Obama to say he wanted to "spread the wealth." McCain jumped on the remark, and invited Wurzelbacher to appear at rallies.

But Tuesday on the Glenn Beck radio show, Wurzelbacher bashed McCain for supporting the $700 billion bailout of the financial industry. McCain, in fact, suspended his campaign and threatened to skip the first presidential debate in September to return to Congress to try to shepherd the deal.

"When I was on the bus with him, I asked him a lot of questions about the bailout because most Americans did not want that to happen, yet he voted for it," Wurzelbacher said. "At the same time he's talking about how he's going to make somebody famous if they even think about putting pork in the bill? We all know how much pork was in the $700 billion bailout package. And why did he vote for it? And I asked him pretty direct questions and some of the answers you guys are going to receive, you know, they appalled me, absolutely. You know, I was angry. In fact, I wanted to get off the bus after I talked to him."

Asked by Beck why he didn't get off the bus, Wurzelbacher replied, "Honestly because the thought of Barack Obama becoming President scares me even more."

Wurzelbacher had glowing words, however, for GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, calling her "absolutely the real deal."

"You know, I only got to spend a short amount of time with her but, you know, it was been asked if I felt any presence when I was with John McCain or Barack Obama," he said. "You know, with Sarah Palin, I don't want to say I felt a presence but she definitely had energy and she definitely went to work for American people, and it disgusts me on how often they try to bash her just for her sincerity. It's just, you know, she really wants to work for America and I mean, I wish people would listen to her and let them, and let her work for us. You know, she wants to serve us. She's not looking for power."

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Is there any journalistic integrity anymore? Why in god's name is this news? You have no credibility as a news source.

Posted by TK December 10, 08 01:30 PM
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Who cares? This is a man whose opinion carries more weight than it should. And he's still talked about. So I repeat, who cares?

Posted by Silas Payne December 10, 08 01:32 PM
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Ha--Glenn Beck and Joe the dbag. What a pair. Bert and Ernie on macroeconomics.

Posted by MWsam December 10, 08 01:37 PM
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Joe "The Publicity Hound" just shut your freaking mouth already. No one cares what you have to say about anything. You are not a PLUMBER as you so touted yourself as being. Just shut up. John McCain is a fine upstanding man with much honor. Honor you yourself do not have. Zip it shut, find a job, and get the correct credentials for that job.

Posted by Tired of Joe's Mouth December 10, 08 01:44 PM
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ick.

Posted by Monty December 10, 08 01:51 PM
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Hi Foon Rhee. Press on to sanctify Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber. In the meantime, many of us will roll up our sleeves, think nationally but act locally to help our economy recover and then go on to create better health care, better ways of dealing with other nations and terrorism, world-class education, and more. I think that Barack Obama has a much better big picture of a path ahead than does either Joe or Sarah.

Posted by Edward Manzeer December 10, 08 01:55 PM
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Joe who???

Posted by H. Ali Tosis December 10, 08 01:59 PM
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Joe, the plumber, is after all a plumber. I could never understand the connection between his interaction with Obama and his adoption by McCain other than just another irrelevant dig at Obama. His recent commentary on McCain and Palin frankly leaves me cold. It is as if he is reluctant to leave his "15 minutes of fame" and is willing to give opinions he knows will drag it out. Joe, the plumber, the politician, the entertainer, the commentator, needs to come back to reality. I hope his plumbing job is still there for him.

Posted by msgijoe December 10, 08 02:01 PM
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Newt Gingrich, when he first ran for congress as a professor at West Georgia college, was given $125,000 as an advance for a book . He spent the money on the campaign but never wrote the book. Same thing with his campaign for the "Contract with America" - funded by a book advance for a book he didn't write Joe, "the Plumber" supported John McCain but now is dissing him for being insufficiently conservation has now signed a book deal. Professors, journalists.and other people who paid their dues get book deals. People used as mouthpieces for the conservative rich instead get pay-offs disguised as book deals. How else do Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin get published?

Posted by DAN DOUGLAS December 10, 08 02:03 PM
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Joe is a joke

Posted by Kaet December 10, 08 02:04 PM
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RE: Palin
The 'real deal?" Sorry Joe, I want someone who is sincere AND smart to run the country. I bet Blagojevich would even appear sincere to Joe. And just why is anything this guy says meaningful?

Posted by Orlon December 10, 08 02:04 PM
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Good thing the day of the no nothing is over...for awhile.

Posted by RV from Ocoee December 10, 08 02:04 PM
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Please go away. We couldn't care less what you think. You're an idiot.

Posted by Regular Guy December 10, 08 02:16 PM
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Sometimes reality is not pretty and political issues too complex to satisfy everyone. While I don't believe in bailing out those idiots who head up the car firms anymore than the other idiots on Wall Street, all the people who are linked into them will be the ones to suffer if there is no help coming for the industry. Those bigshots are not going to pony up to make sure the woman who fits carpets into cars keeps her job so she can feed her kids so who else has the money to do it - the government. What I do want to see is EXTREME oversight. Every expenditure poured over by auditors and if one of those idiots tries to snark something off for himself - out the window he goes!!!

Posted by Carole Clarke December 10, 08 02:18 PM
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Joe the Plumber is a total loser. Unfortunately, people like him do end up getting their 15 minutes of fame and even an indecent amount of money. Now that Beck has given him another megaphone, hopefully people will see him for what he is - a jerk - and allow him to crawl under his rock, again. Bashing McCain and praising Palin just shows the lack of smarts. A head x-ray would probably reveal an empty cavity. Goodbye and good riddance, Joe.

Posted by Abarafi December 10, 08 02:20 PM
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Palin/Wurzelbacher on the GOP ticket in 2012! As a Democrat, I'll contribute. If the two of them can stay out of jail for the next four years.

Posted by ericmiami December 10, 08 02:21 PM
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what in idiot.

Posted by zubra December 10, 08 02:23 PM
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I, for one, want to take a shower every time I hear utterances from Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber and John McCain.

Posted by SAm December 10, 08 02:23 PM
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A comment? What more could one say?

Posted by Almo December 10, 08 02:31 PM
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It's a crock that the media consider this epitome of stupidity from the 2008 elections newsworthy

Posted by Shripathi Kamath December 10, 08 02:32 PM
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Why are we still talking about this guy? And who and why would care about his opinion on anything? He is not even who he claimed he is, he is not a plumber, not Joe and he couldn't have bought any business that netted 250 K.
McCain was desperate and that is why he made a big deal out of him, and "Joe" is turning even against him. Of course he is impressed with Palin she is way out of his league.

I am sure you can find more relevant things to write about .

Posted by Angela December 10, 08 02:36 PM
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Joe stay on the bus.we would rather have your type somewhere secluded. Thanks

Posted by Henry Villemaire December 10, 08 02:40 PM
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Joe dislikes McCain? Say it isn’t so Joe, say it isn’t so…
Joe, isn’t a plumber . His name isn’t even Joe. Palin politicized the office of Librarian while Mayor and we’re supposed to believe she’s not about the power Joe? To anyone that buys his book. Here’s your sign.

Posted by Dassin December 10, 08 02:51 PM
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He' as stupid now as he was a month ago.

Posted by Joe Schmo December 10, 08 03:00 PM
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Palin is bashed for her "sincerity" Joe? Try stupidity.

Posted by KristianJL December 10, 08 03:01 PM
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Go fix a leak, Joe.

Posted by desadiste December 10, 08 03:04 PM
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Joe the Plumber, like an old used and discarded toilet bowl seal ring, probably feels dirty and used (by the McCain campaign)

Posted by gerald bryant December 10, 08 03:12 PM
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Sarah Palin is " not looking for power" Yeah, right

Posted by gerald Bryant December 10, 08 03:15 PM
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Bye, Joe.

And please take puppy Palin & read to her from your little book.

Your 15 minutes were up, so long ago.

Posted by hank chinaski December 10, 08 03:17 PM
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Well Golly Gee whiz, Sarah Palin got the big thumbs up from Joe the Plumber. You betcha that's all I need to support her in '12.
And hey, everyone, news flash! Turns out McCain is a politician!
Has our country really sunk to this level that a misinformed non licensed plumber not only gets his 15 minutes but he is seen by some as a person worth listening to?

Posted by dave December 10, 08 03:19 PM
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This sort of Joe gibberish nonsense can be heard at any local corner bar after the heavy drinking has ended - but I guess it sells.

Posted by sceesic December 10, 08 03:21 PM
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I'm pretty tired of people accusing Joe of dragging out his 15 minutes of fame. This man is only famous because Obama tried to ruin his life for asking a legitimate question. So let's have some perspective. Joe does speak for half the country...the half that didn't vote for Obama and the half that also thinks the bailout is nonsense. To further try to disparage this man is idiocy. He has done nothing to anyone but say what's on his mind and engage in the process of electing officials. That is supposed to be our right as Americans. He's done nothing more than exercise that right and he has been excoriated for it. To insinuate, the way this author does, that he should have gotten off the bus the minute he found out McCain disagreed with him is also insulting. Joe's answer to that was also spot on. Obama was the scarier choice. Neither candidate was ideal but one was more dangerous than the other. For a conservative, there is no way that voting for Obama is an option! To imagine that he should have jumped off the bus and run to the Obama camp is just absurd! Obama voted for the bailout too! Or did he just vote "present"...I don't remember. Give this guy a break already. Your nasty tone when mentioning his name should be saved for when you report on people like Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers (proven anti-American nutjobs)...oh but that's right. You reporter types have never met and anti-American whacko you didn't like! It's the patriotic, tax-paying, regular Joes you can't stand. I forgot.

Posted by M. Fox December 10, 08 03:22 PM
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Oh, the irony of it all! Joe the Plumber praises Sarah Palin for her "sincerity" after he himself stays on the bus campaigning for a man who appalled him. And his answer as to why he didn't just get off the bus? Obama scared him more. Hello? What was wrong with getting off the bus and fading back into obscurity if McCain appalled him that much? Don't support either one. After all, it wasn't Sarah Palin who was at the top of the Republican ticket.

Oh, but he couldn't do THAT. Obscurity? When there was a chance he could make a few bucks writing a dishonorable piece of trash he calls a book? The man is dishonorable and insincere and wouldn't recognize sincerity if it jumped up and bit his face off.

Posted by PipiK December 10, 08 03:24 PM
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What a silly article.

Posted by Michael December 10, 08 03:25 PM
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Opposing the bailout, at least the way it was structured, was the only way McCain would have won that election. Makes sense. By rushing back to Washington only to support the plan that Bush, Pelosi and Reid came up with made McCain look like a desperate buffoon. He should have gotten off that bus when everyone else did.

Posted by Pat December 10, 08 03:31 PM
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I say, Joe has hots for Sarah.
Is there a Mrs. Joe the Plumber out there somewhere?
Any junior plumbers?

Posted by Sam December 10, 08 03:32 PM
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palin is dumb. mccain is a waiver. obama is the smarter. Obama knows how to distance himself from chicago criminals.

Posted by ryan December 10, 08 03:33 PM
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You call this bashing after what the mainstream media did to the republicans running for president in 08? I feel the same as Joe the plumber and I still voted for McAmnesty, unfortunately our backs were against the wall.

Posted by Bill Arnone December 10, 08 03:33 PM
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Why is the Boston Globe associated with Foon Rhee, who clearly just demonstrated a lack of intellectual scope regarding national issues and instead focuses on the sensational and tabloid-style commentary?

Foon Rhee, please stop dedicating energy to people like this. People like this individual only bring the national discourse lower, and inspire the so-called "leaders" of the GOP party to be more extremist and backwards thinking.

Posted by Carol Carol December 10, 08 03:34 PM
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Joe, you're cute but dumb. The Republican party has sold your children's future to the highest bidder and that future looks bleak. You talk about Sarah Palin as having genuine energy...turn off the television and get real bud, she's a snarky self-promoter with nothing but her bank account in mind.

You've been had. I know its hard to admit when you've been conned, but when banks get a 700 billion dollar bail out and oil company profits reach record levels, while Americans get fired and put out of their homes, you've been had. End of story.

Posted by James Paton Walsh December 10, 08 03:37 PM
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Enough of "Joe the Moron". Let's give him a couple of cases of Colt45 and tell him to disappear.

Posted by Mark H December 10, 08 03:38 PM
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He seems like a good guy, give him a break. You go Joe!!

Posted by GatorTony December 10, 08 03:39 PM
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I love it when they eat their own! The Grand OLD Party indeed!!!!!!

Posted by BostonDan December 10, 08 03:55 PM
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"Ha--Glenn Beck and Joe the dbag. What a pair. Bert and Ernie on macroeconomics"

So true, and Barak Obama must be Big Bird.

Posted by roger smith December 10, 08 03:57 PM
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Sam/Joe the plumber is like John/Jeff (Gannon) the Reporter. They even look like brothers. All about winger welfare for themselves and kick any who cannot pay them into the street. Unfortunately they are themselves only monkeys held up for amusement to get kicked back into the street as soon as they cease to be useful.

Their Moosetriss played the game better, and so gets a longer run, but will suffer the same fate. Eventually, perhaps only finding a place at tent revivals and other circuses.

Posted by Freedem December 10, 08 03:59 PM
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Does Joe get he'd never be chatting with Glen Beck without McCain? Your 15 minutes are up, joe. And Sarah Palin SO wants power. More than just in Alaska.

Posted by mhc90 December 10, 08 04:05 PM
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Say it's so, Joe - you're smitten with the little sexpot from Alaska!! I think a Republican ticket with you and the little lady (in either order, actually) is the best gift you can give the Democrats in 2012. You're the man!

Posted by Jim in DC December 10, 08 04:29 PM
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Nothing but continuing the hate speech from the lefty whackos on this board. Think globally and act locally, hate your fellow American's and buy everything the media and Soros puts in front of your noses...or at least your presence...As we know how high you lefty elitists to keep your noses.

The Gov't should bailout the auto industry "to keep struggling women" form losing their jobs?? Are you kidding me? What type of spineless wimps do we have in this country? The government only has the money that it takes from the PEOPLE it TAXES. You bleeding heart lefties cry for poor old union Mary while at the same time step on Joe the Plumber for ASKING A QUESTION. The hypocrisy and idiocy is astounding.

Your Messiah will not lead us out of this mess he is part of the corrupt political machine running our country. God Bless the FBI, may they work independently to shine a light on these rodents.

Posted by justaplumber December 10, 08 04:35 PM
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Joe understands the thinking of millions of Americans. Sarah Palin brought the GOP 47% of the vote, even though the Dems outspent the Reps two-to-one in the election. The unsourced media attacks on her have failed. Bring on 2012.

Posted by Mike December 10, 08 04:37 PM
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Please for the love of God - SHUT UP !!!

Posted by CJ December 10, 08 04:39 PM
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During the campaign, I wasn't sure I'd ever be as impressed by someone's acumen, intellect, or vision for our nation as I was by Joe the Plumber's.

Now, I see that he has equal (if not even greater) gifts of loyalty, magnanimity, and warmth for those who helped make him who he is.

Joe, dude — you're my hero. Keep up the good work, man!

Posted by Jonathan Swift December 10, 08 04:42 PM
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The responses given by some, plus their display of hatred for those who seek to state an opinion, as they themselves are doing, are depressing. Calling someone an idiot or stupid is what you do when you think you are right and they are wrong, but your not intelligent enough to know why. Those who say they don't care what Joe said obviously must care or they wouldn't be responding. Grammar can also be an insight into the intelligence of the writer. e.g. "What in idiot", don't you mean "What an idiot"? Or, "The day of the no nothing is over", how about "know nothing"? Or are these just typos? You are guilty of exactly what you are complaining about—who cares if you think someone is stupid?

Posted by W. Kleven December 10, 08 04:48 PM
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FINALLY! Something Republicans and Democrats can agree on.

Joe, your opinions are best left to the bartender......

Posted by Justyn in Minneapolis December 10, 08 04:57 PM
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Can we vote him off the island?

Posted by nobody December 10, 08 05:07 PM
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He's a bigger tool than the ones that he's not licensed to use.

Posted by Harry Balsac December 10, 08 05:13 PM
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"Sarah Palin is not looking for power." But Golly, Joe, did you hear her say that she thought the VP should have MORE power? (When she thought she'd be assuming the office!) Are you delusional, man? Like H E double hockey sticks she doesn't!

So you stood there at the right place at the right time, you asked Obama a question, McCain picked up on it, referenced you a gazillion times in a debate, and that makes you some sort of a political sage. You're a complete moron. Sarah Palin doesn't want power and I'm the Queen of England.

Posted by Queen Ofengland December 10, 08 05:31 PM
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Joe-the-plumber is about as smart as a lug-nut on a old pickup truck. It is astonishing that we still have to listen to his stupid blathering opinions and issues and things which he knows nothing about. Astonishing. It says tons about the shallowness and incompetence of the media to be "reporting" the crap that flows from this idiots mouth.

Posted by Richard Prince December 10, 08 05:32 PM
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To that woman who said she woul be for the car bailout only if it had "Extreme oversight" I'll say this...who do you want to oversee this...the same government employees who oversaw the Big Dig...a project estimated at 4 billion that ended up at 13.5 billion that leaks and drops concrete ceiling panels on passing cars?
Good Luck

Posted by Chris December 10, 08 05:50 PM
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Man this guy is too much. Hasn't the clock expired on his 15 min???

Posted by PB December 10, 08 05:58 PM
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The title of this article doesn't mean anything... Did the author wanted to say "and you, Joe?" in French? in this case, the correct sentence is "Et toi, Joe?"...
But even with the correct grammar, I still don't get why the title needs to be in French? Oh yeah right... Bush is out of the game now, it's cool to use French again!

Posted by Le Piou December 10, 08 06:01 PM
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Joe the BUFFOON! He really needs a proper education...

Posted by Marc December 10, 08 06:04 PM
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Et tu, Brute- Latin not French. Read your literature. This whole bit of "who cares, where's the journalistic integrity" moral outrage is ridiculous. Obviously, all who read this article cared enough to click on the link- thereby making it news. Whether it's noteworthy or not is subjective, but the myriad of people who commented seemed to thinked so.

Posted by NMBA December 10, 08 06:25 PM
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Call him an idiot, Just look at yourselves and you wiil see what an really idiot is. If anyone of you asked a question and got bashed like he did i wonder what you would have done. So be a bunch of stupid idiots and keep writing stupid notes. You all should look at Hussein and see how he lied during the election and then call yourselves idiots.

Posted by tony December 10, 08 06:27 PM
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Your newspaper is so liberal you did not put my response on . I knew you wpould not because i was for Joe the Plumber

Posted by tony December 10, 08 06:29 PM
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I couldn't agree more with Joe here! Sarah Palin is the real deal--she's not hiding her real self behind any questionable associations like our president-elect. To those of you who do not believe she has what it takes, I would suggest you read a book I just finished. It's called "Sarah: How a Hockey Mom Turned the Political Establishment Upside Down." It's short, but it really tells readers what she's all about. It stops before the election, but after reading that book there is no doubt in my mind that Sarah Palin is not interested in power. She would just assume spend time with her family. It’s just that when she sees bad things happening in government, she cannot just sit around and watch it happen when she knows she can do something about it. I went to 2 Palin rallies before the election and I can see that she's not going anywhere!
HHolly

Posted by Holly December 10, 08 06:31 PM
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It's amusing to read all these furious comments from Obama supporters/Democrats regarding Joe the Plumber's interview with Glenn Beck. Joe pushed all the right buttons to get you guys riled up. To make matters even worse , Joe praised Sarah Palin! When I read that, I knew the comments here would be irate.

Posted by Leaf falling from the tree December 10, 08 06:46 PM
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Joe the Plumber

his real name is Sam, he is not a licensed plumber. 2 lies in 3 words. Fail.

Posted by Megatron117 December 10, 08 06:58 PM
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To: M.Fox: The writer did not insinuate that Joe the Plumber should have exited the bus. The writer reported what Mr. Beck asked.
The reason people are all over Joe the plumber is that he is a phony. He's not a plumber, like he claimed; his name is not even Joe. If he continues to place himself in full view of the public, he is fair game.
To justaplumber: Nobody is all over Joe because he asked a question. HE IS A PHONY!
To W. Kleven: When you criticize others for their grammar, perhaps you should be certain of your own. You stated "your not intelligent..." 'Nuf said.

Posted by JoeSandwich December 10, 08 07:08 PM
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Joe, I thoroughly agree with you. John McCain was a disgraceful candidate. On a scale of one to ten with ten being the highest John McCain was a one; while Barack Obama was a minus one.

Sarah Palin is BY FAR THE BEST candidate for POTUS.

Character and integrtiy are BY FAR the most important qualities for POTUS and Sarah Palin is head, shoulders and torso above most all others on the national stage.

Posted by Archarito December 10, 08 11:15 PM
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Barrack Obama approached Joe the Plumber which in turn question Obama then John Mccain use Joe the Plumber to try and nail Barrack Obama then Sarah Palin open fire followed by John Mccain and Joe the Plumber trying to take out Barrack Obama whom returned fire that stop John Mccain, Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber.

Posted by skmj December 11, 08 03:41 AM
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A fake idiot praising a fake idiot--who really cares? Both epitomize the worst, the dumbest, the biggest drags on America. This should be obvious to anyone of any intelligence. But sadly, right wing lowlifes, religious zealots, and greedy, selfish fat cats (the coalition that form the base of the Republican Party) will keep the Sarah and Joe in the news for the foreseeable.

Posted by Via December 11, 08 03:57 AM
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To JoeSandwich - "He's not a plumber, like he claimed; his name is not even Joe. HE IS A PHONY!"

Everyone should know that Licensed Plumbers can have one or two fellow unlicensed individuals working for them. There's nothing wrong with an honest days' work for an honest days' pay...Is there??? According to the Liberal LEFT LOONS, there is see, Chucky, Diane, and The Messiah's Gov. BLAGO. Hold your signs, attend your rallies, repeat your chants and let the calm wash over you as thee Messiah speaks, then stand in line for PAYDAY! Somehow having aspirations of better days ahead through hard work and sacrifice has become Un-American.

What is the difference that he's not licensed? I'm also pretty certain that the vast majority of people know someone that goes by Middle-Name then First. This argument for he's a phony is ridiculous and insidious!

Your Messiah was walking through SAM'S neighborhood (doing only what an organizer does best), and GOT ASKED A QUESTION. Without a prompter, Mr.PE BHO! appeared honest and sincere in his response which, was inopportunely uncharacteristic, during this history making campaign. Dems smashed fundraising and campaign spending records to BRAINWASH Millions of lemmings. $1 Billion, 3-4 times more to spend went on to Buy The Daily MS Media outlets and turned News into DNC PROMO AD's. Did anyone really believe a CHICAGO STYLE Poll was going to limit how Much FREAKIN' $$$$$$$ they could SPEND??? First BHO was going to accept CFR then...not-so-much.

You were bought on HOPE AND CHANGE and so far we're sold Clinton#3 complete with Scandals prior to Inauguration. Many of us know the change that is coming. It sounds a lot like...can you spare a nickel...BROTHER!

Posted by justaplumber December 11, 08 11:01 AM
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To Justaplumber:
My messiah is Jesus Christ...there is no other. Why would you state that Obama is my Messiah? What makes you think you know me? I follow Jesus and His teachings. Read Matthew 25 if you want to know my philosophy and beliefs.
The reason Democrats spent more money on the campaign is simple: more people ponied up, because of their disgust with the greed of the Republicans.
It's not un-American to have "aspirations of better days ahead through hard work and sacrifice ". What gives you that idea?
What's un-American is George Bush and Dick Cheney fiddling while America burns. You watch; the oil companies will be next in line for a bailout because their profits are falling. Bush will go down as one of the worst presidents in history, but he'll always be the favorite of big business tycoons, who aren't affected by this economic downturn like the rest of us.
God bless you, brother.

Posted by JoeSandwich December 11, 08 12:56 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, this halfwit deserves no attention from anyone. The very fact that I'm writing something about him disgusts me.

The fact is that Joe the Plumber and every other white trash American puts personal character qualities of leaders above everything else. Instead of looking and who WILL do the best for the country (not to mention that pesky jerk called The Rest of The World), they look at who SAYS they WANT to do the best for the country.

Having an Arabic middle name does not make you Muslim. I have a Hebrew first name (as i'm sure many of you do, even if you're not aware of it) and I am by no means Jewish, or even Semitic.

Dropping the g's from the end of your continuous verbs (truckin', fishin', etcin'.) does not make you genuine.
Saying you're one of the people doesn't make you one of the people.
Hating gays doesn't make you a Christian.

Because you know how to cook mac and cheese, and do so on a regular basis. doesn't mean you should be leader of the free world.

Americans took a stand and decided to elect someone who is INTELLIGENT as well as passionate and good. I'll bet even Jesus himself wouldn't have claimed he was capable of being the President.

If you can justifiably be described as "folksy", do the world a favour and stay the hell out of politics.

Posted by Zac December 11, 08 05:39 PM
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JoeSandwich - Fine, not your Messiah, replace with The Chosen ONE then. Great, you believe in Christ!

How you voted for the Most Liberal Senator in the Country as a Christian is beyond me. I do not know you, and am left to draw a few conclusions as to how BHO will be POTUS. Anyone that voted (D) either 1) believes all that they hear from Katie Couric and the rest of the MSM, 2) has blind faith. 3) is fiercely loyal to race, 4) HATE the Current Administration (even though they were not running).

This Republican Administration is flawed and un-just in many areas. Fighting the War on Terror and keeping our enemies at bay is not one of those ways. Not having the ability to oversee other areas of gov’t beyond defense is; bailing out private industry and allowing people on welfare to become Home Owners as examples are failures of this Administration. The hate spewing attacks against this administration (that continued daily-nightly-weekly-for years on end) by the Main Stream Media and left wing groups is Anti-American. But precedence has been set; expect little more from the losers of this election, for better or for worse.

But I digress, why then is there all this hatred for a man that asked a simple question?
What about the morals and qualifications of The Chosen One? How about the fact that BHO won the Il Senatorial seat in a 2004 mid-term election with NO OTHER candidates on the ballot? Can you really believe that Blago had NO discussions with the President Elect about his vacated Senate Seat? How gullible can you be? Merely a month ago the most precious items in our country were seats in Congress, now we’re to believe that the New President(‘s Admin) had no discussions with the man poised to name his successor. Too many questions…Too little information…Too much of the same old politics just with fewer qualifications and more questions of character.

Zac - Back off the Kool-Aid for a while at least until your thoughts become coherent again.

Posted by justaplumber December 11, 08 08:41 PM
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**But I digress, why then is there all this hatred for a man that asked a simple question?**

Joe the Plumber generates anger and hate from some people because his encounter with Barack Obama was politically embarrassing for the Illinois senator. Some of the more thin-skinned Obama supporters bitterly resent that and thus resort to name calling and insults.

Posted by Leaf falling from the tree December 12, 08 11:54 AM
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You might find that old joes ideas will be far more in line with whats good for america over the next four years. handing the reigns over to the government might make some feel safe today, but in the end the government will prove what it has proved for the past 30- 40 years. It is terrible at running anything.

And I promise you that printing one trillion dollars to save failing buisness will devalue our currency and push us into a econcnomic dark ages., where inovation is replaced with natioalization. obama and mcain are both dead wrong on the bail outs.

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About Political Intelligence

Reports from Boston Globe reporters and editors about the Obama administration, the Massachusetts congressional delegation, and other national political happenings.

News from the Washington Bureau

In N.E. governors’ races, GOP sees a chance to build on gains

Invigorated by state house victories earlier this month in Virginia and New Jersey, Republicans are turning their attention to governorships in New England, where they believe the retirement of four incumbents and a competitive race in Massachusetts has created wide-open opportunities. (Globe Correspondent, 11/25/09)

Senators voice optimism on public option

WASHINGTON - Buoyed by their weekend victory on a vote beginning the health care debate, several Senate Democrats expressed optimism yesterday they could find a way to keep a government-run insurance plan in the sweeping bill. (Globe Staff, 11/23/09)

Health overhaul narrowly advances

The Senate narrowly overcame the first of two critical hurdles to passing sweeping health care legislation last night, mustering the minimum of 60 votes required to begin debate on the bill and opening a volatile floor fight likely to last weeks. (Globe Staff 11/22/09)

Latinos, blacks take harder hit amid recession

Latinos and African-Americans in Massachusetts and across the country are facing high unemployment rates that could spiral to levels not seen in decades as the jobless economic recovery drags on, analysts and urban community advocates say. (Globe Staff, 11/21/09)

Some lawmakers push back Catholic church on health care bill

Representative Louise Slaughter has a consistent record advocating abortion rights. So the New York Democrat was stunned recently to receive, for the first time, a letter from a Catholic diocese in western New York, demanding that she explain her vote this month against a health care amendment prohibiting insurance companies from paying for abortions. (Globe Staff, 11/21/09)

Support wanes for curbs on credit-card interest rates

Efforts in Congress to cap credit-card interest rates are faltering because of opposition from Democrats and a lack of specific support from the White House, despite growing consumer outrage over a rush by banks to impose rates as high as 30 percent. (Globe Staff, 11/19/09)

Obama domestic agenda largely a one-party effort

Despite early pleas for bipartisanship, President Obama is forging ahead with his domestic agenda with a largely single-party strategy, unable to corral more than a handful of Republicans on a wide range of major legislation before Congress. (Globe Staff, 11/17/09)

Beirut attack victims’ families face new hurdle

On Veterans Day, Christine Devlin stood in the cold in Westwood for the unveiling of a new memorial to local soldiers lost overseas, including her son Michael, one of the 241 servicemen killed in the bombing of the US Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983. (Globe Staff, 11/14/09)

FHA runs low on cash, fueling bailout concerns

The Federal Housing Administration, which propped up the collapsing housing market last year, acknowledged yesterday that it has drained its cash reserves to dangerously low levels, heightening concerns that it might need a taxpayer bailout. (Globe Staff, 11/13/09)

Powerful health care groups offer optimism on overhaul

Two leading health care interest groups, representing insurers and big business, struck a more conciliatory, even optimistic tone on the health care overhaul yesterday, emphasizing their support of the overall goal of increasing coverage and containing costs even as they warned that the wrong bill could cause great harm. (Globe Staff, 11/13/09)
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