Obama meets on nuclear weapons
President Obama brought in some old foreign policy hands -- both Democrats and Republicans -- for some counsel today on how to fulfill his long-term vision of ridding the world of nuclear weapons.
Former Secretary of State George Schultz, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, former Senate Armed Services Committee chairman Sam Nunn, and former Defense Secretary William Perry dropped by.
"I don't think anybody would accuse these four gentlemen of being dreamers. They're hard-headed, tough defenders of American interests and American security. But what they have come together to help galvanize is a recognition that we do not want a world of continued nuclear proliferation, and that in order for us to meet the security challenges of the future, America has to take leadership in this area," Obama said.
"This is particularly true at a time when countries like North Korea and Iran are in the process of developing nuclear weapons capacity, at a time when we see a country like Pakistan with a large nuclear arsenal on the other side of a long-running conflict in the subcontinent with India, at a time when terrorist organizations like al Qaeda are trying to seek fissile material. It is absolutely imperative that America takes leadership, working with not just our Russian counterparts but countries all around the world, to reduce and ultimately eliminate the dangers that are posed by nuclear weapons."
Schultz, speaking for the four eminences, said they supported Obama's vision and the steps he is taking to get there.
"We think that's just the way to proceed, that there is an interaction between the vision, which you need, which requires you to think of the steps and know where you're going, and the steps which need to be taken to show that the vision has a reality to it, and we're getting there," Schutz said after the meeting.
Their full remarks are below:
THE PRESIDENT: Hello, everybody. I just had a wonderful discussion with four of the most preeminent national security thinkers that we have -- a bipartisan group of George Shultz, Henry Kissinger, Bill Perry, and Sam Nunn -- all who've come together and helped inspire policies of this administration in a speech that I gave to Prague, which set forward a long-term vision of a world without nuclear weapons.
I don't think anybody would accuse these four gentlemen of being dreamers. They're hard-headed, tough defenders of American interests and American security. But what they have come together to help galvanize is a recognition that we do not want a world of continued nuclear proliferation, and that in order for us to meet the security challenges of the future, America has to take leadership in this area.
This is particularly true at a time when countries like North Korea and Iran are in the process of developing nuclear weapons capacity, at a time when we see a country like Pakistan with a large nuclear arsenal on the other side of a long-running conflict in the subcontinent with India, at a time when terrorist organizations like al Qaeda are trying to seek fissile material. It is absolutely imperative that America takes leadership, working with not just our Russian counterparts but countries all around the world, to reduce and ultimately eliminate the dangers that are posed by nuclear weapons.
And we can take some very specific steps in order to do this. We can revitalize our Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. We can work with the Russians, as the two countries with by far the largest nuclear stockpiles, to continue to reduce our dependence on nuclear weapons. We can move forward on a Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. It's going to require more work, but I think that we can get something accomplished there and we can lock down loose nuclear weapons that could fall into the hands of terrorists.
We are going to be pushing this as one of our highest priorities, to take specific steps, measurable steps, verifiable steps, to make progress on this issue, even as we keep a long-term perspective and a long-term vision about what can be achieved. And we can think of no better advisers, counselors, and partners in this process than the four gentlemen who joined us here today.
We also think this is a reminder of the long tradition of bipartisan foreign policy that has been the hallmark of America at moments of greatest need, and that's the kind of spirit that we hope will be reflected in our administration.
So, with that, let me allow George to make a brief statement on behalf of the group.
SECRETARY SHULTZ: All four of us support enthusiastically what the President is doing, as expressed eloquently in his speech in Prague. First of all, we all noticed, on your White House web site, that the first sentence was "We will work for a world free of nuclear weapons." That's the vision.
The second sentence is, "As long as nuclear weapons are around, we will be sure we have a strong deterrent ourselves." So we support that notion that we must be conscious of our national security all the way along to zero.
Then we were really impressed to see that you had such a constructive meeting with the President of Russia. And the two of you, the countries with most of the -- over 90 percent of the nuclear weapons, pledged together to seek a world free of nuclear weapons.
And in your Prague speech, you list a vision to steps and you identified a few of the steps. And we think that's just the way to proceed, that there is an interaction between the vision, which you need, which requires you to think of the steps and know where you're going, and the steps which need to be taken to show that the vision has a reality to it, and we're getting there.
So all four of us, Mr. President, support what you're doing. I would only have one word of slight disagreement. You said that you welcome the fact that this is bipartisan. And, well, it is. At the same time, I think all of us have said, when people have told that to us, that it's really nonpartisan. This is a subject that ought to somehow get up above trying to get a partisan advantage. And it's of such importance that we need to take it on its own merits. And that's the way we've proceeded. And that's the way, at least it seems to us, you've proceeded.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you so much, George. And thank you all for joining us. This is going to be an ongoing collaboration. We're very grateful to them. And we're grateful to you guys for taking time to listen.
Thanks a lot.
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Slowly, but surely Obama seems to be bringing down the barriers between Democrats and Republicans or at least those Republicans who know what time it is and what to do before the alarm goes off. Sadly, this does not seem to be true with those who control the machinery of the party and if I can recall a cliche of my military days some sixty years ago, would rather "live in fame or go down in flame,,,," I"d be interested in knowing how many if any of the site readers/users recall the rest of that hymn of the Air Army Force.
Great start, go all the way to eliminate every single nuclear weapon in the world.
President Obama is slowly starting to believe that there is no such thing as a nuclear free world and that a nuclear arms race in asia and the middle east is inevitable. The only way to drastically scale back the doomsday clock is for our nation to control every nation that has the potential to create such weapons.
The improbability of that thought can only give us one other option and that is to come to mutual terms with our current potential adversaries. Thru inclusion we influence and in turn eventually ally ourselves in a way much different then how we did with the russians and chinese during their nuclear achievments.
We are in control of Irans neighbors and have a strategic importance that attracts a friendly bond with the Iranian government, a bond they would risk forging even if it strained the russian attachment. And that strain is where our interest should lie.
Did any one of the four come up with ONE original and new idea on how to deal with the current mess? I doubt it.
The N prolferation problem essentially boils down to wrestling Pakistan's nukes away from it. Pakistan is a time bomb - an unstable, unfriendly country that is run by semi-competent people who are not in control of their Army and intelligence, uses state sponsorship of terrorists as a weapon against India and has proliferated to N Korea and possible even Iran in the past. Pakistan should simply not be allowed to have N-weapons. However difficult it is to shutdown Pakistan's N program, it is the only sustainable solution. Hoping that a crumbling country with a history of double speak will be able to 'secure' its N weapons by giving it money amounts to criminal stupidity that will have horrifying consequences.
In our time it's not going to be possible to put the genie back in the bottle. Even though there has been a considerable reduction in the number of nuclear weapons, enough remain to destroy civilization. Our only practicable recourse is to establish a well funded, well staffed nuclear non-proliferation apparatus. This literally terrible danger we live with should impel all nations to create a control mechanism that transcends rivalries. Anything that can destroy us all should be held inviolate and above the fray. As with global warming, the community of nations must actively work together to control this universal menace. These are the two immediate, major global challenges of our time, and both are without historical precedent for world civilization. The one caveat to this is population growth as a third global problem requiring multiple joint solutions.