Obama announces emissions rules
Calling it a historic plan and extraordinary consensus, President Obama formally announced a nationwide plan to increase gas mileage and reduce global warming pollution at the same time.
"The status quo is no longer acceptable," he said, asserting that foreign oil imports are threatening US interests and are helping cause climate change.
The new fuel efficiency standards, covering model years 2012-2016, ultimately require an average fuel economy standard of 35.5 mpg in 2016. They are projected to save 1.8 billion barrels of oil and reduce 900 million metric tons in greenhouse gas emissions, the White House said.
“In the past, an agreement such as this would have been considered impossible,” Obama said. “That is why this announcement is so important, for it represents not only a change in policy in Washington, but the harbinger of a change in the way business is done in Washington.”
Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts joined Governors Arnold Schwarzenegger of California and Jennifer Granholm of Michigan for the Rose Garden announcement, along with leaders of environmental groups, auto companies, and unions.
California, Massachusetts, 12 other states, and the District of Columbia have urged the federal government to let them enact more stringent standards than the federal government's, a request blocked by the Bush administration. The states' regulations would cut greenhouse gas emissions by 30 percent in new cars and trucks by 2016.
Senate allies involved in the climate change debate praised the president's action.
“This will be a shot heard round the world in the battle against climate change and it will reverberate around the globe as we approach the climate meetings in Copenhagen," Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts said in a statement. "For eight years, we battled a White House that tried to stop states from doing what Washington refused to do, but now we have a President leading the effort to dramatically reduce emissions from one of the largest contributors to climate change and make more fuel efficient cars so consumers can travel further, cleaner, and cheaper on the same tank of gas.”
Added Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island: “This is an enormous step forward: a national standard that makes cars both cleaner and more efficient, saving consumers money and protecting our environment. That President Obama was able to get carmakers and environmental advocates to join hands in this effort is a testament to his ability to find consensus solutions to the problems our nation faces. We can no longer afford inaction in the face of global warming, and I’m confident American workers and businesses will meet this challenge with energy, vision, and ingenuity.”
Obama's full remarks are below, along with the White House release:
OBAMA'S REMARKS
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Thank you. Please, everybody have a seat -- have a seat. What an extraordinary day. The sun is out because good things are happening. Before I get started, just some preliminary introductions -- I'll probably repeat them in my formal remarks, but I want to make sure that I acknowledge some people who have been critical to this effort and critical to so many efforts at the state and federal levels.
First of all, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has just been cracking the whip and, you know, making Congress so productive over these last several days. We are grateful for her. My wonderful Secretary of Transportation, Ray LaHood, is in the house. Lisa Jackson, the outstanding administrator of EPA. Some of the finest governors in the country are here -- let me take them in order of good looks -- sorry, Arnold. (Laughter.) Jennifer Granholm of Michigan, Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger of California. (Applause.) Barbara Boxer just had to leave -- the head of the Environment Committee in the Senate, who'd done just outstanding work. And Senators Feinstein, Levin and Stabenow couldn't be here because they're busy voting on credit card legislation that we're going to get done before Memorial Day.
And we've got two outstanding members of the House of Representatives, John Dingell -- where's John? Right here. The Dean of the House who's done so much extraordinary work around these issues, Sandy Levin. Please give them a round of applause. (Applause.)
I also want to mention Ron Gettlefinger of the UAW, our president who's just been a great leader during some very trying times in the auto industry, and Carol Browner, who helped to make this all happen today. Please give Carol Browner a big round of applause. (Applause.)
Since I'm acknowledging everybody -- I'm in a voluble mood today -- let me go ahead and acknowledge my other members of the Cabinet who are here who are part of our energy green team and do just outstanding work on an ongoing basis. First of all, my Secretary of Labor, Hilda Solis. (Applause.) The guy who's just cleaning up the Department of Interior and doing an extraordinary job, Ken Salazar. (Applause.) Our head of HUD, Shaun Donovan. (Applause.) And our Commerce Secretary, Gary Locke. (Applause.)
Now, thank you all for coming to the White House today, and for coming together around what I consider to be a historic agreement to help America break its dependence on oil, reduce harmful pollution, and begin the transition to a clean energy economy.
This is an extraordinary gathering. Here we have today standing behind me, along with Ron Gettlefinger and leadership of the UAW, we have 10 of the world's largest auto manufacturers, we have environmental advocates, as well as elected officials from all across the country.
And this gathering is all the more extraordinary for what these diverse groups -- despite disparate interests and previous disagreements -- have worked together to achieve. For the first time in history, we have set in motion a national policy aimed at both increasing gas mileage and decreasing greenhouse gas pollution for all new trucks and cars sold in the United States of America. (Applause.) And I want to applaud the leadership of the folks at the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Transportation, and the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change who've worked around the clock on this proposal which has now been embraced by so many.
Now, in the past, an agreement such as this would have been considered impossible. It's no secret that these are folks who've occasionally been at odds for years, even decades. In fact, some of the groups here have been embroiled in lawsuits against one another. So that gives you a sense of how impressive and significant it is that these leaders from across the country are willing to set aside the past for the sake of the future.
For what everyone here believes, even as views differ on many important issues, is that the status quo is no longer acceptable. While the United States makes up less than 5 percent of the world's population, we create roughly a quarter of the world's demand for oil. And this appetite comes at a tremendous price -- a price measured by our vulnerability to volatile oil markets, which send gas prices soaring and families scrambling. It's measured by a trade deficit where as much as 20 percent of what we spend on imports is spent on oil. It's measured in billions of dollars sent to oil-exporting nations, many that we do not choose to support, if we had a choice. It's measured in a changing climate, as sea levels rise, and droughts spread, forest burns, and storms rage.
And what is all the more tragic is that we've known about these costs in one way or another since the gas shortages of the 1970s. And yet all too little has been done. Calls for action rise and fall with the price of a barrel of oil. Worn arguments are traded across entrenched divides. Urgency fades, complacency grows, and time passes.
As a result, we have done little to increase the fuel efficiency of America's cars and trucks for decades. Think about this. Consider how much has changed all around us. Think of how much faster our computers have become. Think about how much more productive our workers are. Think about how everything has been transformed by our capacity to see the world as it is, but also to imagine a world as it could be.
That's what's been missing in this debate for too long, and that's why this announcement is so important, for it represents not only a change in policy in Washington but the harbinger of a change in the way business is done in Washington. No longer will we accept the notion that our politics are too small, our nation too divided, our people too weary of broken promises and lost opportunities to take up a historic calling. No longer will we accept anything less than a common effort, made in good faith, to solve our toughest problems.
And that is what this agreement seeks to achieve. Right now, the rules governing fuel economy in this country are inadequate, uncertain, and in flux. First, there is the standard for fuel economy administered by the Department of Transportation. On top of that, the Environmental Protection Agency, in response to a decision by the Supreme Court, may have to set limits on greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles -- establishing another standard. California has sought permission under the Clean Air Act to require that vehicles sold in California meet yet another even stricter emission rule. And 13 states and the District of Columbia have agreed to adopt California greenhouse gas reductions if the permission -- called a waiver -- is granted.
Car companies might then face three different sets of overlapping requirements, one administered by the Department of Transportation, one administered by the EPA, and still a third administered by California and 13 other states. This proposed national policy, under the leadership of two agencies -- and bringing together 14 states, 10 companies, as well as auto workers and environmental groups -- changes all that. The goal is to set one national standard that will rapidly increase fuel efficiency -- without compromising safety -- by an average of 5 percent each year between 2012 and 2016, building on the 2011 standard my administration set shortly after taking office.
A series of major lawsuits will be dropped in support of this new national standard. The state of California has also agreed to support this standard -- and I want to applaud California and Governor Schwarzenegger and the entire California delegation for their extraordinary leadership. They have led the way on this as they have in so many other efforts to protect our environment. In addition, because the Department of Transportation and EPA will adopt the same rule, we will avoid an inefficient and ineffective system of regulations that separately govern the fuel economy of autos and the carbon emissions they produce.
And at a time of historic crisis in our auto industry, when domestic auto manufacturers are making painful choices and restructuring their businesses to be viable in the future, this rule provides the clear certainty that will allow these companies to plan for a future in which they are building the cars of the 21st century.
Yes, it costs money to develop these vehicles, but even as the price to build these cars and trucks goes up, the cost of driving these vehicles will go down, as drivers save money at the pump. And this is a point I want to emphasize: If you buy a car, your investment in a more fuel-efficient vehicle as a result of this standard will pay off in just three years. In three years' time you will have paid off the additional investment required. So this is a winning proposition for folks looking to buy a car. In fact, over the life of a vehicle, the typical driver would save about $2,800 by getting better gas mileage.
The fact is, everyone wins: Consumers pay less for fuel, which means less money going overseas and more money to save or spend here at home. The economy as a whole runs more efficiently by using less oil and producing less pollution. And companies like those here today have new incentives to create the technologies and the jobs that will provide smarter ways to power our vehicles.
And that's why, in the next five years, we're seeking to raise fuel-economy standards to an industry average of 35.5 miles per gallon in 2016, an increase of more than eight miles per gallon per vehicle. That's an unprecedented change, exceeding the demands of Congress and meeting the most stringent requirements sought by many of the environmental advocates represented here today.
As a result, we will save 1.8 billion barrels of oil over the lifetime of the vehicles sold in the next five years. Just to give you a sense of magnitude, that's more oil than we imported last year from Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Libya, and Nigeria combined. (Applause.) Here's another way of looking at it: This is the projected equivalent of taking 58 million cars off the road for an entire year.
I also want to note that the agreement we have announced today is part of a far larger effort. In fact, on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, Henry Waxman is chairing a meeting of the Energy and Commerce Committee, which is working on an equally historic energy bill that will not only help our dependence on foreign oil, prevent the worst consequences of climate change, and build a clean energy economy, but will provide more than $15 billion to help build the cars and trucks of the future right here in America. (Applause.)
And the recovery plan we've put in place, as well as the budget that builds on it, makes historic investments in a clean energy economy: doubling our capacity to generate renewable energy like wind and solar; investing in new battery technologies for plug-in hybrids; and building a smarter, stronger grid on which the homes, businesses and vehicles of the future will run. (Applause.)
Too often, lost in the back-and-forth of Washington politics, absent in arguments where the facts opponents use depend on the conclusions they've already reached, absent all that is this: Ending our dependence on oil, indeed, ending our dependence on fossil fuels, represents perhaps the most difficult challenge we have ever faced -- not as a party, not as a set of separate interests, but as a people.
We have over the course of decades slowly built an economy that runs on oil. It has given us much of what we have -- for good but also for ill. It has transformed the way we live and work, but it's also wreaked havoc on our climate. It has helped create gains in prosperity unprecedented in history, but it also places our future in jeopardy.
Ending this dependence will take time. It will take an incredible effort. It will take a historic investment in innovation. But more than anything, it will take a willingness to look past our differences, to act in good faith, to refuse to continue the failures of the past, and to take on this challenge together -- for the benefit not just of this generation, but generations to come.
All the people who have gathered here today, all the auto executives, all our outstanding elected officials and appointees -- Ron Gettlefinger, members of Congress, governors -- all these folks here today have demonstrated that this kind of common effort is possible. They've created the template for more progress in the months and years to come. Everything is possible when we're working together, and we're off to a great start. So thank you everybody. I appreciate it. (Applause.)
By the way, I just want to mention, I think I still have my Ford parked in Chicago. (Laughter.) It's a Ford hybrid, it runs great, you guys should take a look. (Laughter.) But there are also some outstanding hybrids -- (laughter) -- and energy-independent cars represented up here, so I didn't want to just advertise for one.
BACKGROUND
The proposed national autos program adopts uniform federal standards to regulate both fuel economy and greenhouse gas emissions while preserving the legal authorities of DOT, EPA and California. The program covers model year 2012 to model year 2016 and ultimately requires an average fuel economy standard of 35.5 mpg in 2016. The result is a projected reduction in oil consumption of approximately 1.8 billion barrels over the life of the program and a projected total reduction in greenhouse gas emissions of approximately 900 million metric tons. This groundbreaking policy is good for consumers, good for the auto industry and it helps our country by reducing pollution and promoting energy independence.
Ten car companies and the UAW have embraced the national program because it provides certainty and predictability to 2016 and includes flexibilities that will significantly reduce the cost of compliance. The program also honors President Obama’s commitment to reconsider the denial of the California waiver by the Bush Administration.
Good for Consumers:
· Consumer Savings: This will save American consumers money over the long term in increased fuel efficiency.
· Consumer Choice: The proposed new national policy will preserve consumer choice. The new rules will not dictate the size of cars, trucks and SUVs that manufacturers can produce; rather it will require that all sizes of vehicles become more energy efficient.
· A Cleaner Environment: New policy will produce environmental benefits that will reduce air pollution from the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions and other conventional pollutants.
Good for the Economy:
· Clear Rules: One national policy for all automakers, instead of three standards: a DOT standard, an EPA standard and a California standard that would apply to 13 other states.
· Lower Costs: This national policy has the potential to lower compliance costs for automakers by avoiding a patchwork of fuel efficiency and pollution rules.
· Flexibility: The new national policy provides the industry what any business wants: clarity, predictability and certainty concerning the rules. As importantly, it gives them flexibility on how to meet the expected outcomes and the lead time they need to innovate.
Good for the Country:
· Energy Independence: The new policy will result in yearly 5% increases in efficiency from 2012 through 2016. The end product - - cleaner cars and reduced dependence on oil (1.8 Billion barrels of oil cumulatively, over the lifetime of the program) and significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions (savings equivalent to taking 177 million of today's cars off the road).
· Effective Government: Historic collaboration between two agencies; breaking down silos and working towards a common goal and outcomes.
· Bringing People Together: The national policy has the support of CEOs, Governors, the UAW, the environmental community and others around this first, comprehensive national policy.
Below is a list of on-stage participants and expected attendees at today’s event:
On-stage participants:
- Alan Mulally, CEO, Ford
- Jim Lentz, President, Toyota
- Fritz Henderson, President, General Motors
- John Mendel, Executive Vice President, Honda
- Bob Nardelli, CEO, Chrysler
- Dr. Friedrich Eichiner, COO and Director, BMW AG
- Dominique Thormann, CEO, Nissan
- Dr. Dieter Zetsche, Chairman, Daimler AG, Head of Mercedes-Benz Cars
- Jim O'Sullivan , President and CEO, Mazda North American Operations
- Stefan Jacoby, President and CEO, Volkswagen Group of America
- United Autos Workers President Ron Gettlefinger
- Department of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood
- Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Jackson
- Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change Carol Browner
Expected attendees:
- Secretary Tom Vilsack
- Secretary Ken Salazar
- Secretary Shaun Donovan
- Secretary Hilda Solis
- Governor Jennifer Granholm
- Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
- Governor Deval Patrick
- Senator Carl Levin
- Senator Debbie Stabenow
- Senator Barbara Boxer
- Senator Dianne Feinstein
- Speaker Nancy Pelosi
- Rep. John Dingell
- Rep. Sandy Levin
- EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson
- CEQ Chair Nancy Sutley
- Office of Science and Technology Policy Director John Holdren
- California State Senator Fran Pavley
- Chairman of the California Air Resources Board Mary Nichols
- Representatives from the United Auto Workers Union
- Leaders of League of Conservation Voters, Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, Environmental Defense Fund, and Union of Concerned Scientists
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I think it is a great idea, but what about the commercial 16 Wheel vehicles that do not have emission standards?
Nobody is going to go and trade their car in for a new car, just to save a few pennies in 15 years. This crap is a joke, I love driving my V6 Chrysler Seabring. I dont really care what happends in 15 years from now. WWIII is here soon i give it 5 years.
The carbon-tax era has started ...........
In this new era the motor-states included will learn from this new program.....
I am going to track every bit of increased cost to me via energy cost increases directly (gas bill, utility bills, added taxes to items and indirectly (costs added to products including groceries) Calculate my yearly cost start a business and conduct minimal commerce and show a loss for the next 5 years equivalent to 3 x my yearly cost of carbon tax increases (assuming a 1/3 tax bracket) IRS allows the loss and then considers it a hobby after so many years of losses. After that I will start a new business and repeat the cycle. I will make it a point to stop by something related to this business while driving my 40 mile work commute so I can write off the mileage. I'll be damned if I am hit with this cost and I am middle cass
The new mileage standards should be seen as a small step forward, albeit a necessary one, but by themselves will reduce CO2 emissions less than needed for a comprehensive CO2-mitigation program. However, an encouraging additional development is the announcement of planned major upgrades in the nation's electricity grid. Electricity is a far more efficient power source for automobiles than the internal combustion engine, and the combination of an improved grid with the substitution of wind and solar energy for coal in generating most future electricity will go further than mileage standards alone to control carbon emissions at a level that contains future climate change and its consequences within tolerable limits.
The issue of costs is not irrelevant, but the Administration has appropriately decided that energy independence and climate change mitigation deserve priority. Higher automobile purchase costs are anticipated, but will be offset by lower fuel expenses. It's also important to note that the new standards are averages, and do not preclude the purchase of cars, SUVs, or trucks that deviate from the average in the case of individuals or families who require such vehicles.
its about time!!
Now I know why Obama wanted to grab the car companies. Now with his new program, he can dictate to the automobile manufacturers what type of vehicle to be built. I don't buy the fact that the size of autos and trucks that will be built will not be dictated by the new program and Washngton. Also, where is the evidence of how 1.8 billion barrels of oil will be saved with this new program? What is the "life" of the program? A partnership of business and a heavy handed government is a definition of facism. Also,it has already been stated the cost of autos under this new formula will cost more. That's nice; few can afford them now!
Finally! It's high time emissions and the regualtions changed.
I do believe that we need to be even more agressive towards saving fuel. The goal at 35.5 miles per gallon appears to be in range, although, I do believe that year 2016 for achieving this goal is way too long. As well, development of conversion kits for exiting gas guzzlers must be in this equation. In other words, force the industry to develop and market for improve mileage of existing vehicules of all makes and size.
So nice of them to include a "Good for the Economy:" list. Wonder why they did include a "Bad for the Economy" list as well? Is there NOTHING bad about this plan, only good?
Why in blue blazes is the frontpage subline to this article another shortsighted and cynical rejoinder about the expected cost to consumers per vehicle? Weren't there other sublines available? What about the clear costs passed on to consumers by the big oil companies for continued foreign oil dependence and irreparable damage to the environment if this is not done? What about the country finally taking a place at the table next to other developed nations already enacting their own tougher standards? What about the nearly unanimous support represented by the attendees from all major auto manufacturers, the UAW and major Democratic and Republican governors?
Obama, a guy who probably has never even run a lemonade stand, trying to run the auto industry. The only people happy about this will be Honda and Toyota...goodbye American auto industry!
This is not the real change needed. Getting away from oil dependency is what we need to do. Please bring more change... An outline of a plan... I wrote down a 5 year plan after my bachelors. I didn't follow then but I was going to get to most of it. Maybe not in the exact order but it happened. We want to change so we need solar panels, free wind energy, and less fossil fuel burning. Did I say less, I meant no fossil fuel burning.
Don't do us poor stupid people any favors Mr. President. Adding to the cost of each vehicle and while perhaps acheiving more MPG the cost of a gallon of gas will rise accordingly. Next there'll be a Goverment program to offer a subsidy to all who 'rush' to buy these new efficient cars and the manufacturer will factor this subsidy into their price so in fact the subsidy will end up in the manufacturers pocket. Smoke and mirrors and so it goes.
I'm buying a G8 GT VERY soon. It will probably be the last full size fun to drive car I'll be able to buy. It's a shame that we're being prodded to buy either overpriced boring hybrids or boring accord/camry's. I need Mike Millbury talking about the pansification of the auto industry. :(
In the end this is going to be a disaster to the consumer and the country.
Cars and trucks will cost more thus Obama's plan to send auto mfg jobs offshore where they can be more affordable does make sense.
Cars and trucks will be less safe.
Gas will cost more due to gov't having to make up the difference in revenue lost.
Gas will cost more due to oil producers not wanting to reduce their profits.
Lets see....an additional $1300 for a new car
Another $8.00 in Sales Tax
Another $$$$$$$$ to register and whatever other fees they come up with.
Another $.50 per gallon of gas
No thanks, I will keep what I have
Conservatives shot down a similar proposal back in 2001. They claimed that it would force car manufacturers to build "mini cars." Eight years later the "Big 3" American auto makers are second class to Toyota, which figured out how to make a gas efficient car while the American companies resisted. Our stubbornness has already knocked us off our perch.
It's about time we had a president with the guts to force our industries to be competitive. Why all of a sudden are we taking the lead of other nations? We used to be the trend setters. We missed hundreds of opportunities over the last eight years. Thank you Mr. Bush and Republican Congress.
Next lesson for US will be alternative energy. We're already behind the curve on that too!
Higher automobile purchase costs are anticipated, but will be offset by lower fuel expenses.
Baloney. Prove it.
We're not going to save the world and kill an oil dependency by increasing the average fuel economy 7mpg over 7 years. This is just another power grab/ P.R. stunt by Obama Administration. Those auto manufacturers were there because they HAD to be, not because it was a "historic" meeting of the minds. Give me a break.
"A series of major lawsuits will be dropped in support of this new national standard."
Why don't you just tell us the truth, Mr. President? Are you afraid us dumb, fat, racist Americans won't understand?
Xeno - Right on the money! Obama will be offering tax incentives to buy these wondrous new vehicles he has created, good only on purchases from GM and Chrysler, of course.
This action by the president was something we were waiting for.
Let the extra money go to the manufacturers NOT to the greedy oil producers.
No science. No engineering.
Because I said so!
Wonderful.
What a great photo on the home page to lead in...
Patrick, Granholm and Schwazzeneger!!!!
The three most incomeptent governors in this land. The 3 Stooges leading bankrupt liberal states.
That's a keeper.
I hope he had all of those governors there to seek their permission rather than mandate his new ideas. States need to start telling Washington to take a hike under the 10th Amendment. Obama lacks the authority to make decisions like this.
Gotta love the whining from the crowd who doesn't give a damn about the country (with its dependence on foreign oil) or the globe (with the looming extinction of the species)..."as long as I get to drive my big hog and don't haffta do nothin' different". Wake up people...it's not about you individually...it's about all of us collectively...try to get out of your self-centered funk. The world is changing and we can either be part of a new vibrant future or we can cling desperately to the past and end up living in a cave. I know...I know...I must be a "stinkin' commie"...or what does Rush say?...a fascist...as if he even knows what that means...
It's about time we had a president with the guts to force our industries to be competitive. Why all of a sudden are we taking the lead of other nations? We used to be the trend setters. We missed hundreds of opportunities over the last eight years. Thank you Mr. Bush and Republican Congress.
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Does someone have to remind you, or are you just that much brainwashed or brain dead. It was and never should be the job of the president to force or coerce any private industry. If they do nto make what sells they go out of business.
12.Obama, a guy who probably has never even run a lemonade stand, trying to run the auto industry. The only people happy about this will be Honda and Toyota...goodbye American auto industry!
Posted by jake May 19, 09 01:29 PM
umm, hey jake, buddy, pal.... you been paying attention at all recently? no? Oh, well, probably best to keep your mouth shut on this subject then. Quick update for you-- the US auto industry hasn't been doing so well the past, oh, 10-20 years or so.
Governors Patrick, Granholm fight each other for Superme court post
30 minutes later by fist.
Most of you obviously do not support our new government. You don't understand the positive long term effects this excellent new policy will help to bring to many aspects of the auto and energy industry, and the therefor the economy. Much how I did not understand what the heck the last government was doing and why (actually, I know why, they all had their hands in the oil honey pot). Fact is, the economy and environmental quality went so far down the tubes with the last government (historical debt), that it is undeniable change is required. These are great first steps.
What a bunch of pessimists you all are. Thank goodness you aren't running the country. WE elected a new leader because he can change things despite the resistance of losers like all of you. Go Obama, this is going to be great and even better than that, a lot of fun watching all of you squirm in your ignorant resistance along the way. Ha!
Cutting imported oil could easily be done by drilling for the oil in the U.S. but somehow that is not an option. Perhaps we could do both and really help America. When people die so animals can live there is a basic dichotomy in peoples thinking. How can fixed low income people afford to drive and eat. There is a lot of talk about saving the enviorment but no talk about saving poor people. Now we have a choice of eating, medicine, or driving.
I love the idiots chiming in who forget that if Bush wasn't so lax on regulations, then the American Auto industry would have turned out fuel-efficient vehicles that could compete with foreign car companies. Instead, they became complacent, failed at being innovative, and, well, you know the rest. But reading your idiotic posts, it's actually apparent you don't. And failing to understand the fact that we're becoming less reliant on oil (not just foreign, but ALL oil) is typical from the narrow-minded.
This will be a shot heard round the world in the battle against climate change and it will reverberate around the globe as we approach the climate meetings in Copenhagen (Kerry).
It's more than apparent that the ones who push for evolution in the schools systems don't understand it. How can you claim that the world evolves, but "battle against change" as though you're above it? You are now in a position of being ignorant or deceptive, Mr. Kerry.
People really need to assume responsibility in these matters and at least attempt to understand them, else insanity will reign. The materialistic slant that claims that a living being (i.e. the earth) will last forever is absurd. In fact, even considering that it will not go through change is just as zany.
This will be a shot heard round the world in the battle against climate change and it will reverberate around the globe as we approach the climate meetings in Copenhagen (Kerry).
It's more than apparent that the ones who push for evolution in the schools systems don't understand it. How can you claim that the world evolves, but "battle against change" as though you're above it? You are now in a position of being ignorant or deceptive, Mr. Kerry.
People really need to assume responsibility in these matters and at least attempt to understand them, else insanity will reign. The materialistic slant that claims that a living being (i.e. the earth) will last forever is absurd. In fact, even considering that it will not go through change is just as zany.
The least intelligent, experienced, and knowledgeable among us are making all of the decisions for us. This is going to be a disaster beyond anything Jimmy Carter ever dreamed of.
I like my idea better: Start with a nationwide voluntary "no drive" day once a month. That should take a big bite out of fuel usage and it won't cost a stupid amount of money. It may also have other positive effects:
1 - reduce the accident/death rate on highways
2 - get people out walking or riding bikes
3 - keep people at home with their families
4 - prepare people for the inevitable future when their will be no more "hop in your car and go"
Ohnoes! Whatever will we do! We will no longer be able to buy 12MPG Ford Excessives, 12MPG Mercury Monstrosities, or Twin Super Turbo OMG V12 Mustang Cobra Super Pony Editions that can go 0-60 in the 1.3 seconds it'll take to get down to the 7-11.
Yes, I laugh everytime I see a Hummer pulled up to a gas pump and the meter reads $75+. And then I pull my nice, fuel efficient minivan around to the pump and fill-er-up for $30. Heck, sometimes I'll pull around to the E85 pump and fill-er-up for less, though the decrease in cost is offset by the decrease in mileage.
After reading through this i'd say the least intelligent, experienced and knowledgeable among us are the ones posting comments...
the cost of these new cars will be an additional $1,300 to $3,000. by 2016 it will turn out to be alot more. of course the car companies would agree, they are being run by the government and have already blown through billions in tax payer dollars, which will never be re-paid. to show you how rediculous this is i use less 'energy' in 5 years then al gore uses in a week. yet in 2016 i will be paying more for a car[ and i can barely afford too] while gore and others of his thinking continue to take private jets,limo's,and live in 40 room mansions. its called an oligarchy, and it ain't good for the little guy.
Oh for the love of.... Okay. whoopty-doo, hug a tree, save a whale, kiss a hippie. So it's all well and good to change over cars to do something wonderful for years down the rode...so what's the new rockstar messiah done right now to get the thousands upon thousands of Americans who are unemployed back to the work force, what has he done to help families, families with children find shelter after the foreclosure crisis, has he seen the tent cities? What has been done to get our fellow Americans out of the wretched Middle East? America will you please wake the heck up!?!?!? You realize that you are an enslaved society, chained by debt (even more now that we will have to be taxed beyond the grave for all that bail-out nonsense). But yippee-ki-ya, we saved a tree!
If your car is currently getting 25 MPG now, spending $1,300 extra for a car that will get 35 MPG is a really bad idea. With current gas prices at $2.33/gallon (national average), you will save $320/year on gas. At that rate, it will take you 4 years to get your Return On Investment. Your savings are even less if the gas price goes down. (This was assuming a 17 gallon tank and 12,000 miles per year)
This is using the low end additional cost. If you assume the high end of $3,000 extra for a car, then the ROI is 9 YEARS and 4 MONTHS!!!
Stop crying that you can't "afford" to take limo's and private jets everywhere. With great power comes even greater responsibility, unfortunately in the US egos beat logic and common sense out every time, if you want Al Gore's perks then take his job...wait, you don't want his job? too much work? too much internal/external pressure? Then suck it up buttercup.
Like TicToc's comment about private industry - think Obama's plan likens itself to a psuedo-commu-fascism. Are you happy that your President "borrowed" your billions of tax dollars to bailout companies that make the same vehicles (with great zeal, too) you are so adamantly opposed to? PS. It's not coming back to you...unless you go buy another car - even still, the provision-for-loss (from this fiasco) on the books will keep the price of vehicles inflated as ever.
Automakers will forget that YOU bailed them out, but they won't forget the billions in lost revenues. Enjoy reviving the monster that is America's Auto Industry.
In general, even a car lover like me has to approve of these new emission/mileage standards. But people still should be able to buy fun performance cars if they are willing to pay a stiff gas guzzler tax. If we end up with only two kinds of vehicles--mini car/hybrids or trucks, then Obama really IS telling us what kind of cars we have to drive: surely, this would no longer be a free country if that were the case (read: Declaration of Independence and Pursuit of Happiness).
Whatever happened to the electric car? The one that doesn't use ANY gasoline... the EV-1 that GM HAD IN PRODUCTION and then scrapped???
Why aren't we forcing the car makers to make at least one model of electric car available to the general public for purchase? There are other energies to be explored here. When GM was forced by CARB (California Air Resources Board) to produce an electric car in the late 1990s they DID. So did Toyota.
Let's get some real CHANGE going here...
Wow folks, 35.5 mpg by 2016? That is so incredibly weak. I had, and still have high hopes for Obama as President, but for him to call this a major step forward is a big let-down. I have a crappy, ten year old Saturn station wagon, and it already gets roughly 35 mpg. The only reason this could be considered a step forward is because of all the jackasses out there driving Hummers and Escalades. Make the goal 100 mpg by 2020 - that would interest me.
I'm glad the automobile/oil oligarchy is finally being broken down after destroying the public transportation system and working for decades to hinder any sort of innovation toward a better system. Those who think this is about restricting your freedom, remember that so many of us have had our options taken away due to collusion and backroom deals that bought out or outright stole our preferences. This has been coming for a long time. My only complaint is that the companies will still be in business and not dismantled for a new generation of automotive companies such as Tesla. Instead we'll have to watch them painfully re-invent the battery, the charging system and yes, even the wheel, on our dime.
Hello. Whatever you fear most has no power - it is your fear that has the power.
I am from Nigeria and now teach English, tell me right I wrote the following sentence: "On any weekend throughout the year one can spend hours browsing through neighborhood flea markets."
:D Thanks in advance. Silva.