Pelosi defends herself on waterboarding
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sought again today to address what she knew and when she knew about waterboarding of terrorist suspects and to fend off any idea that she was complicit.
She was one of four congressional leaders briefed in 2002 about the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques. But in the news conference, Pelosi insisted that she was told in the briefing that waterboarding -- a near-drowning interrogation technique -- was not being used, though she was told that administration lawyers had concluded that it would be legal.
"The CIA briefed me only once on enhanced interrogation techniques in September 2002 in my capacity as ranking member of the Intelligence Committee. I was informed then that the Department of Justice opinions had concluded that the use of enhanced interrogation techniques were legal. The only mention of waterboarding at that briefing was that it was not being employed," she said.
She said she was not in a second briefing in 2003 where she said lawmakers learned that waterboarding was being used.
Pelosi said that the CIA misled members of Congress, just as the Bush team misled the country on the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to justify the war.
"We also now know that techniques including waterboarding had already been employed and that those briefing me in September 2002 gave me inaccurate and incomplete information," she added. "At the same time, the Bush administration -- exactly the same time -- September of 2002, the fall of 2002, at the same time, the Bush administration was misleading the American people about the threat of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
"They didn't tell us everything they were doing," she told reporters. "We had to get a new president to change the policy."
UPDATE: In a written response issued moments after Pelosi spoke, an official at the CIA neither disputed nor accepted the California Democrat's statements, the Associated Press reports.
Instead, George Little, head of the CIA office of public affairs, said it would be up to Congress to determine whether notes made by agency personnel at the time they briefed lawmakers were accurate. He said the notes could be made available at the CIA "for staff review."
The entire controversy over her role is a "diversionary tactic" by Republicans and former Bush administration officials, she asserted. "They don't want the focus on them, so they put the attention on us," she said.
Pelosi renewed her call for a "truth commission" to investigate the Bush administration's interrogation policy, as proposed by Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont
"I have long supported creation of an independent truth commission to determine how intelligence was misused and how controversial and possibly illegal activities like torture were authorized within the executive branch," she said.
"I think the American people want it," she added. "I think they want to know how we got to this place."
Until then, she said, House committees should continue their oversight role.
UPDATE: House Republican leader John Boehner, asked about Pelosi's comments, said they raised more questions than they answered.
"I think the problem the speaker has had way too many stories," he said.
Boehner said Democrats were well aware of the enhanced interrogation techniques that were being used, and also said "it's hard for me to imagine" that intelligence officials would mislead Congress
"I don't know what motive they would have to mislead anyone," Boehner told reporters.
Boehner repeated his opposition to a truth commission, saying it would not be in the national security interests.
But, he added, "If they want to go down that path, let's get everything on the table."
Echoing former Vice President Dick Cheney, among others, he said that reports on the information gleaned from the interrogation should be released as well.
UPDATE: NBC is reporting that the CIA has rejected Cheney's request to declassify and release those memos.
Senator Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, disagreed with Pelosi on both the veracity of intelligence officials and the need for a truth commission.
"You have to have confidence in the CIA. And over the 20 years I've been here, I've been briefed constantly by the CIA and I'd say that they've told me the truth, as they see it," he said on MSNBC this afternoon.
"I also say that all this argument about creating a truth commission to what happened years ago or what did Nancy Pelosi know or not know is all a waste of time. This behavior has now been prohibited by law and President Obama's executive order. Let's get with the challenge before us today and stop fighting each other.”
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Quote : "I say put her under oath!"
You mean like Bill Clinton?? Under oath doesn't mean a thing to somone caught in a lie.
Liar, liar
Gee, Nancy- were you easily misled? Hmmmnnn...how about today? Have you been easily misled about any of Obumma's politics, as well? Perhaps, one who can be...so easily misled, should not be serving in your position? FYI: being easily misled is certainly not resume material.
Isn't Pelosi MISLEADING the American Public by strutting around in a jet (i.e. HUGE Carbon Footprint; like Opra), whilst she instructs the lowly public to conserve? She is. (So is Opra.)
What are the chances that Pelosi is lying about other issues, as well? What is the probability that those who support her (lying) are also liars? How dare these types compare themselves to Lincoln!
amazing it took until comment 51 for some moron to turn up that would defend this other lying idiot.
"were there WMDs in Iraq?? no. did the bush administration lie to congress and the country about it?? yes. what kind of idiot would believe cheney or the CIA after the damage they did to our country?? only an ignorant republican."
Don't you dare change that channel off of CCN or MSNBC. I know you aren't as stupid as you sound...
These days, whenever something goes wrong in Washington or someone is pressed to respond to difficult questions, like Pelosi, the first words out of everyone's mouth is Bush and the Republicans. When will Pelosi and members of this current administration put Bush to rest and stand on their own two feet, and accept responsibility for their mistakes?
Thus the first female speakership ends in ignominious disgrace with the enabling complicity in torture. Stand down, Madame Speaker.
Can we waterboard speaker Pelosi and see if it will get her to tell the truth??? Me thinks that the prospect of having that one inch layer of make up dissolve in the tub will get her to give up all of the info before she ever hits the water.
So did the Speaker of the House just throw the entire CIA under the bus?
Yes I am sure they are now so willing to do their jobs, knowing that any politician will throw them under the bus in the future in order to further their political careers.
This could be the largest blow to our intelligence community ever.
Let me get this straight, she is for a "truth commission"?
Pelosi doesn't even know what time of day it is even while looking at her watch. The woman has no idea of what is going on right in front of her eyes. She should resign before making even a bigger fool of herself.
President's Pelosi, Dodd, and Frank, please stop lying. You 3 are the reasons that the economy has dropped into the crap tubes.
I don't know about Connecticut, but Pelosi has destroyed California ( i live here now) and Frank has destroyed Mass. (used to live there).
Oh, and maybe the 3 President's can get that clown poster boy Obama to do some more photo shoots and fix the BCS.
Now that is the agenda this country needs to work on
WOW!!! When I posted one of the first comments on this story I figured there was no way Boston.com would actually post my critical comments on Piglosi. To my surprise there is not one person supporting her on this site. Where the hell do all of you people run off to when it comes time to vote? We need to clean house when it comes to our so-called representatives and start hiring the best person for the job instead of the one that the media makes into a shiny object that distracts you. If you had to post a copy of your resume in front of the American public when running for public office, there wouldn't be anyone from this administration in office never mind in charge of our national security.
It would appear that many of you are assuming that she is lying, which is, of course, likely, and ignoring other possibilities, such as:
She is functionally incompetent and therefore lacks the ability to differentiate reality from fantasy. I care for a person who is prone to confabulation, and her condition is so severe that she convinces herself that the fantasies she makes up are real. It's an amazing existence, because she makes up stories to suit the situation, then stands behind them vehemently despite all the evidence that contradicts her.
Of course, the person I'm talking about is in a home and has no legal ability to make decisions...I think I have a solution, people....
Hey everyone. Go to FOXNews.com and get the real and complete story on this matter, and not the crap you get here.
Q: How can you tell if Nancy Pelosi is lying?
A: Her lips are moving.
I listened to her denial on the radio. I swear, she sounded like a kid who's been caught w/ her hand in the cookie jar...or the Speaker of the House who cried "Bush". I continue to be amazed that she ranks as high as she does, given her approval rating is abysmal, regardless of the party. She probably points in her sleep.
I do have a question. When the say that waterboarding is/was against the law, to which law are they referring? I've read commentators say that the US never signed an international ban of the tactic.
If this LIAR is so easily "mislead" she shouldn't be Speaker of the House.
Let's get rid of this lying beeyatch.
Ms Speaker Pelosi; You are an embarrassment to all United States citizens.
Who voter for her? I'm embarassed to have Sir Ted and the war hero--
you guys from NY have it worse.
These Obamacrats are beyond shameful. In 2010 they all have to go.
The Ying and The Yang -
GREAT response !!!
thanks for a good laugh.
Honestly, this woman is a pill. What a complete farce. She needs to go Califormia. Do somthing about her.
Looks like waterboarding is no longer politically correct, but neither am I. Nancy Palosi lies every time she opens her mouth, well except when .
Can any of you tell me what "lie" George Bush has been caught in? I am not a GWB lover, I think he was an average President who had his good ideas and bad ideas, but the fact is GWB has never been caught in a lie.
He has been wrong....he has stated things that were wrong like the WMD's in Iraq, but those same statements were made by Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Bill Clinton, every reliable intelligence agency in the world....
So unless he knew that everybody else was wrong ( and being that most of you consider GWB stupid that is highlly unliekly) then he didn't lie....he was wrong.
This lady is lying.
Nancy Pelosi demonstrates that women in positions of leadership can be just as ruthless, corrupt, and dishonest as men.
Obama needs to throw her under his bus ASAP.
Michaelinmass is an idiot...Call Bush a liar but not Pelosi...stupid liberal.
Why is water torture bad? Terrorists cut the heads off their american prisoners, take inncocent journalist's hostage and kill them, and fly planes into buildings. But, the US citizens are upset about water boarding....what is wrong with this country??????????
democrats lie??
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!
fools! this is not a democrat or republican thing!!! it is purely political regardless of party. and this issue proves it.
the Dems asked for hearings and truth commissions and war trials and now Pelosi is running for cover. The Dems want heads to roll as long as it isn't their own. Well in Washington nobody is innocent. So be careful what you ask for. Bush may have been in office but he didn't run everything in the USA. He had help and while most of his hired help were republicans there were a lot of democrats in the mix as well.
and independent truth commission may reveal more than the public is ready to know. I'm all for it, fair, balanced and totally unbiased. But will we get that or will we get a watered down version that only uncovers a little tid bit here and there?
Why this focus on Nancy? She played such a minor role this whole torture fiasco. Why make her the villain? These comments are scary....
I guess if she says it enough then it will become the truth. Just watch MSNBC tonight and you will see for yourself
So the same people going after Pelosi are the same people who think that torture is OK. Either Torture is OK and Pelosi did nothing wrong, or Torture is wrong and Pelosi should be taken down a peg or 2 along with all of the other leaders that OK'd torture.
One thing that the CIA specializes in, is overthrowing foreign governments. At least they did until Obama put Panetta in charge with zero intelligence experience on his resume. So everyone working at the CIA, except for the guy who is supposedly in running the show, draws from a wealth of knowledge in overthrowing foreign governments and Pelosi wants to go at them head on. LOL!, good luck Piglosi! The worlds largest intelligence gathering agency pitted up against a politician that lacks any intelligence. What a match-up!
I bet my house that the CIA digs up a lot more skeletons than just the one that's filled with botox, caked with makeup and hiding behind the podium hollering "It's all George Bush's fault that I am a self serving twit!".
Above, someone actually had the sack to call her honorable. LOL!!!!! You gotta be kidding me? When I saw the use of the word "honorable" next to the name of Nancy Pelosi I started to get that "throw up" taste/sensation in my mouth. That word becomes an oxymoron when placed next to anyone other than a rare few of our representatives but next to Piglosi it's just plain reprehensible.
And now, just like one of the two nitwits that have shown support for Piglosi on this message board, I think will repost my original comments to see if I can sound like an idiot twice.
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE....
Plllleeeeeeease President get rid of her!!!!!......I agree with the post that GWB was wrong, he admits he was wrong.....Nancy is just a liar through and through.
Fine, to those who say she may be telling the truth. She may be.
Should it be investiagated? Is your search for the "truth" only directed at one party? Should an investigation go where it leads?
What if she is lying? What then?
PANTS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!
We have very pressing problems like war, raging deficits, unemployment, and tons of immediate in our face injustices to deal with right now. Th issue of who knew what when is not one of them. I am sick of the fighting between Dems and Republicans.
Terrorist would show us no quarter, so why must we show mercy to them?
I'm sure Nany Pelosi was briefed about the "enhanced" torture techniques.
I don't doubt that she is a smart woman, but fibbing doesn't seem to be her strong suit.
Pelosi lied?? What's new?? What about Hillary Clinton's "ducking sniper fire".
She is now Secretary of State. Show's what kind of government we now have.
This woman, like all liberals, is a compulsive liar! The Bush Administration told her about it. The CIA told her about it. The CIA offered proof she knew about it. Yet this delusional woman continues to lie. She is a joke and unfit to hold public office or any other job for that matter!
If she is "ranking enough" to be briefed once, why wasn't she "ranking enough" to be briefed the second time? How seriously was she taking her role on the Intelligence Committee if she neither attended, nor was relayed infromation about, the second briefing?
Is this what passes for "leadership" nowadays?
Now she wants a truth commison??? get real--- I'd like to know what these people would do if one of their kids were kidnapaped- and they cought the person who did it - and what they would do to that person to find out where their child was-
Also- no one every brings up the fact- where are our prisoniers of war? Where is our Gitmo---we don't have any cause the other side never takes prisoners- If they are so hot for the rules of the geniva conevntion- why don't they go after the bad guys???? Daaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deny, deny, deny.
Seems to me that Bush/Cheney ordered torture. Why is Pelosi in the middle of this? I believe the briefing she attended was classified, which means she can't talk about those proceedings. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that, and I don't think anyone has any proof to whether or not she's lying. I'm all for a truth commission. It's time to find out who broke the law, Democrat or Republican.
By the way, my post the other day was removed because I said someone needed to learn how to spell. Globe, how do you let gb get away with his/her comments?
Forget waterboarding...listening to her is a far worse torture.
Quick, somebody check if her pants are on fire...
The lying little so-and-so....
This is perfect for the ChangeWeCanDeceiveIn.com web site. More lies from the Obama administration. Shameful what this lady has done, and the implications of these type of lies are hurtful to our country. Shame on your Nancy Pelosi!
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy. You forgot rule#1 of being a liar. Once you lie, stick with it and don't change it.
It's all Bush's fault™ LOL
This administration is a complete and utter joke. LIES LIES LIES
I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat, I am not a communist or a pacifist, I have put my life on the line for this country (and would do so again), and I love this nation with all of my heart. That having been said, many of the comments I’ve read here sicken me. Here’s why: Pelosi is not the problem, she's just a symptom. The problem with Washington is, quite simply, that it is loaded with politicians on both sides of the aisle whose real constituents are NOT the voters who elect them... But are big-money donors and corporations who fund the advertisements, travel, appearances, etc. needed to get someone elected to a national office. But there are a few facts many of you seem to forget, and should not: (1) Whether or not Pelosi knew that waterboarding was being used, she is NOT the person who authorized its use; (2) Waterboarding IS torture. Doubt it? Try it on yourself. You'll need a friend or two to help, but it's not that hard. Search the Internet and I'm sure you can find enough instruction to get down to it. Now once you've done that, think about whether or not it qualifies as torture. Then remember that we have signed international agreements promising that we will not use torture. All of you who want to talk about integrity and telling the truth need to think about how you feel when someone ducks out on an agreement with you or fails to honor a contract with you. Do you think of that person as a person of integrity? If not, then you should understand that our nation's integrity is at stake when we violate the agreements we've made. It doesn't matter that we've done it in response to 9/11 - wrong is wrong. THAT'S an American value, and we certainly don’t need to give our enemies “moral” justification to torture captured Americans. WRONG IS WRONG; (3) The Bush administration was in power for eight years, and determined the course of our response to 9/11/2001. They chose to focus the lion's share of their energy and OUR resources on Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with the attack on our country. They did this because the invasion of Iraq was a cash cow for a great many of the administration’s corporate supporters, and it didn’t matter to them that American soldiers would die in the process. They also invaded Iraq in an attempt to create a “puppet” regime in the Middle East that could later be pumped for cheap oil and used as a base from which to pressure other countries in that region. The invasion of Iraq was not, however, an appropriate response to 9/11 as Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 (as Bush himself later stated on more than one occasion). And WMDs..? Just an excuse. There were none, and they had to have known that going in. They also set a tone of permissiveness for our financial institutions that allowed laws created in the 90s (under Clinton) to be used as an avenue to huge profits at the expense of the American people and our nation's economy. If we do NOT look back at least long enough to identify where mistakes were made, we run a very real risk of being back in the same boat a few years from now. I’ll repeat that for those of you who suddenly want to forget the craziness of the Bush era and move forward as though nothing happened: IF WE DO NOT LOOK BACK AT LEAST LONG ENOUGH TO IDENTIFY WHERE MISTAKES WERE MADE, WE RUN A VERY REAL RISK OF BEING BACK IN THE SAME BOAT A FEW YEARS FROM NOW. One of you commented that "elephants have long memories". If that's true, why do so many of you have such difficulty remembering that Bush, Cheney, Rove and the rest were CAUGHT in lies or misleading statements again and again, were famous for dodging accountability, had the least transparent government in our nation's history, took us to war under false pretenses, and used the tragedy of 9/11 as an EXCUSE to implement several agendas that had been proposed by neo-cons as far back as the FIRST President Bush's administration..? Oh yeah... They allowed the economy to go to pot too. The Democratic Party’s biggest crime during the reign of the Bush administration was not having the backbone to stand up against all of the wrong being done in the name of 9/11. They didn’t stand up because they were more concerned with their political careers than with “right or wrong”. The Democrats thus share the blame for what’s happened, but that doesn’t make them as accountable as the ARCHITECTS of the foolish policies put in place following 9/11. Bush, Cheney and the gang used 9/11 as an EXCUSE to put in practice a myriad of policies clearly inconsistent with American values, American laws, and the good of the American people. When I think back to how I felt on September 11, 2001 and then think about the President and his administration USING that horrible day as an EXCUSE to fatten the pockets of their corporate buddies and chip away at the civil liberties of average citizens, I cannot help feeling very ANGRY. And any one of you who does not also feel angry about being duped by your leaders in that way… is either too stupid or too uninformed to understand what happened between 2001 and 2008.
God help us if most of the people posting in this commentary reflect the same proportion of the American people. Even half would be terrible.
I'm more afraid of you than I am of Al Qaida. What Al Qaida has tried and can only fail to do, the American people can succeed quite well in doing, and that is to destroy this nation.
"I don't know what motive they would have to mislead anyone," Boehner told reporters.
Uhhh, how about because it was illegal? How about because time and time again it's been shown that this was how the Bush administration operated, by misleading people?
Boehner is indeed attempting to distract the public, just like the Republicans and Bush administration did for bout eight years before this.
twofordinner: which/whose law was broken? I've had a hard time finding info on which law forbids waterboarding. As I mentioned above, I heard the US didn't sign and international ban on the technique, so I'm not sure if it can legally be applied to us. I'd honestly like to know.
how come she looks like a deer caught in headlights?...must be the bad botox job.... couldn't be the lying...
I do not believe a word out of Pelosi's mouth. If anyone is misleading the country, it would be her. Not a lot of discussion on her husband's profiting from her leadership position. Anyway, I am an independent viewer of Fox News and stopped home delivery of the Boston Globe because of the blatant biases. Although President Bush made his share of errors, let us not forget that democrats have been the controlling party long before Obama was signed-in. I'm tired of the blame game as it is wearing thin. One last item, the President & House Speaker's language should not try to divide the nation, but bring it together.
We should waterboard her until she tells the truth! How much longer do we have to put up with her uselessness?!!!
Nancy Pelosi is without a doubt a liar and a complete idot
Who really cares if they water boarded anyway??
Lie Nancy Lie. Typical
I want a "Truth Commission" to investigate the Fannie May and Freddie Mac deals - seems like this has been just brushed over. Where's the investigation into various bonus distributions, failure to heed warnings, etc.
When a public official can't show up to an inquiry and answer questions truthfully with legal council.....it tells me 2 things;
1. Pelosi can't speak the truth (and often doesn't)
2. Pelosi is trying to cover her tracks with the advice of council
Put Pelosi under oath...and then impeach her.
Leon Panetta, lifelong loyal Democrat and new CIA Director, said last week SPECIFICALLY that Nasty Nancy was briefed on the CIA's use of waterboarding on a specific terrorist. In her speech today she said she was misled, but Panetta says she was told not just of the practice in theory, but it's actual application and usage.
You libnuts condone lies when your own tell them, and claim Republicans lie(Bush, etc.) when there is absolutely no evidence of such. Hypocrisy is a virtue to your cause.
NO
No, I don't believe her.
Nor do I believe the lefty spin that Buf-Foon Rhee writes.
she was for waterboarding before she was against it.....errr she was mislead,...Madam speaker, stop p@#$@# down our backs and tell us it's raining.
Yeah, and she has never had a facelift and her husband a plastic surgeon loves her for who she is. Two face is too kind. She is the reason we are where we are today. Because she is too stupid, or too naive to have dealt with the "waterboarding" story. She probably thought waterboarding was some new cool surfing thing the kids were doing in Guantanemo. She is irrelevent.
It's time to thank the Bush administration for saving lives and time to get rid of the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Murtha, Frank, etc. in order to help restore honesty in our government.
No I think she's lying.
Democrats have a knack of over-reaching. I am just suprised that it happened so quickly. Pelosi is a liar and this signals the begining of the end to Democratic control of the House. The ironic thing is the popular consensus among the media is that the Republicans are too far to the right. That's difficult for me to believe. John McCain is a moderate Republican. If anything the Democrats have gone too far to the left. Obama is extremely liberal as is the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate, Pelosi and Reid.
Not Nancy, she could never lie...She is of the chosen party.
If she's moving her lips, she's lying her a** off...
Pelosi is obviously lying. Anyone who thinks differently is just kidding themselves. She has got to go, otherwise Congress just continues to not be credible.
I absolutely believe her. The last administration was nothing short of a mafia like operation. Congress was duped into the entire war in Iraq. Duping them on torture?...no sweat.
Sloan: I agree with some of what you said. Both parties are definitely at fault. We probably differ in that I believe we are no better off now than we were under Bush, including the transparency department. We may be a little worse off, truth be told. For instance, nearing the end of Chrysler's bankruptcy hearing, Obama chided "a small group of speculators" who "endanger Chrysler's future by refusing to sacrifice like everyone else." What he didn't share was that these were senior creditors Chrysler borrowed money from, signing a contract promising that they'd get paid before anyone else if the company went under. The creditors included the University of Kentucky (my alma mater), Kraft Foods' retirement fund, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, pension funds, teachers' credit unions, and so on.
A normal bankruptcy filing would be straightforward. Senior creditors get paid 100 cents on the dollar. Everyone else gets in line. Obama rewrote the rules and gave a huge chunk of Chryser to junior creditors, the United Auto Workers, which has handed $25.4 million to federal politicians over the last two decades, with 99 percent of that cash going to Democrats
You have to agree that's pathetic. I have zero tolerance for members of either party who put play these political games. Don't think for a second that the Dems are more virtuous in this regard. As an independent, I'm sickened by the whole lot of them.
Pinocchliosi.
They lie. They can't help themselves. It is a pathological condition that every one of them lies when it suits their purpose, and their purpose is always "get re-elected." As George Costanza once told Jerry: "It's not a lie if your believe it." We elect self-infatuated power lusters who believe they can say whatever they say and that we foolish people believe it. And, since they believe that, they believe that they are not lying. It is despicable. In the days before the Internet, maybe politicans could get away with it. But now, with the ease of past reference, and the vast network of information, their fibs are exposed on a routine basis. They are just so self-absorbed and out of touch that they don't care. Pelosi just happens to be among the worst, but she's not alone.
To the person who posted # 128, (bostonresident) military veteran. Well Said! Bravo! And most importantly Thank You for your service. Your words are so true and should be put on billboard!
Sloan: Sorry. I should have put "bostonresident". My mistake
We wring our hands over the decay of values and how no one will take responisibilty for their actions. "It's not my Fault" "There were mitigating circumstances" "I was abused as a child" . Now here we have an alleged leader in the halls of Congress, "It's not my fault" "I was mis-lead". Actually the shame is the electorate that keep sending all these phonies and pretenders back at each election so they can posture and feather their nests even further. The terrorists just need to be patient until we as a society implode.
Pelosi VS CIA... stay tuned... and please pass the popcorn!
Bottom line is that she is lying to protect herself...To throw the CIA under the bus men and women on the front lines defending this nation is the most despicable act I have seen in quite some time and shows a complete lack of respect to the work they do Ms. Pinocchio. Do us all a favor resign your seat go back to California as you have disgraced your office and the people you represent. If your lucky you might be able to get a job on MSNBC you liberal hack. Change we can believe in what a joke!!!!!!!!!
So let me get this straight...Bush lied? Is that your answer to everything? What specific did he lie about that you wren't complicit in (other than, it appears, waterboarding?) So it doesn't matter that you lie, that your fellow democrats lie, that you are a bunch of corrupt hacks, that you are DROWNING us in debt to funnel money to Acorn, pay outrageous earmarks to connected lobbyists, take stupid publicity shots of Air Force One, fly all over the place on private jets while berating us about our driving habits and thermostats, take over private companies, weaken our ability to deal with terrorists, and on and on.
#128 claims not to be a Democrat, but alas, the lie starts there. if you spew garbage like a Democrat, you're a Democrat. i understand not wanting to be associated with Democrats, that's natural, but the old saying is: if it looks like duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a duck. you're a Democrat, and just another embarrassing one at that. my guess is you no more served in the military then i did.
Waterboarding? Torture? Good grief! Those people are still living aren't they?
You want to know torture? Try watching your buddy slowly bleeding to death after being tied to a tree and castrated, as my uncle did in a Japanese prisoner of war camp. Now that's torture. Get a grip, liberal dimicrats (the spelling is intentional). Ask the 3,000 dead in the Twin Towers what they went through.
I love how all the libs on here are somehow proclaiming that the man they have called dumb, stupid, idiot, and retard (and these are the nice names) George W. Bush has somehow masterminded this whole plan to defraud everybody else in government....
Ask me what is more believable...that a dunce called George W. Bush outsmarted everyone else in Washington....or
Nancy Pelosi is lying.....
I think Nancy Pelosi is lying
Somebody call the Waaa-mbulance! Boston.com readers are at it again!
What a complete and total embarrassment this San Francisco wacko is. The latte sipping ivory towers liberals have also made their presence known here, horrified that the US government would have dared put a plastic baggy and poured some water over the mouth of the MASTERMIND OF 9/11. The guy with over 50 aliases who concocted and planned the entire operation that was the bloodiest foreign attack ever on American soil. He was "tortured" say the elitists from the safety of their suburban mcmansions. Really? We can't even go that far with someone so high ranking within Al Qaeda? These are the same people that will grant Osama Bin Laden a talk show and commencent invitation at Harvard, should we capture hoim
Either she's lying again or she's incredibly dumb again. Either way she should be removed from office.
Wonder why only Democrats are "misled" ? Could it be they are too dumb to understand their second language- English! Maybe the CIA should star briefing in Spanglish.
Nancy approved the enhanced interrogation techniques from the very start but that inconvenient fact is hampering her ability to mete out political punishment to the previous administration. She is lying about what she knew and when she knew it, but nobody believes her, not even her most loyal supporters. The spectacle of her self-righteous denials just gives Americans one more reason to distrust their elected officials and makes one wish for mandatory term limits.
Pelosi,
What a joke Obama's bee atch in the house. Come on sheep wake up and see what is going on. Killing these terrorists with kindness is a big mistake. These people see this as a sign of weakness. Do you think they care about diplomacy or how we treat them. If given the chance they would slice our throats. These people are not civilized nor do they conduct themselves as socially acceptable human beings. They are totally dedicated to killing as many Americans as they can. Stop fooling yourselves this is a war of religion. The Islamic beliefs and so called pillars condemn and call for Jihad against all non Islamic. Its not if its when another attack happens then we will wake up for a couple of years get all patriotic again and then forget. Someday go see where the towers were. Go see the federal building in OK City. How fast we forget. These political leaders live in Disneyland. How many have served in the military? Some of us have. They have the best healthcare plans paid for by us the taxpayers. Most of us can't afford a decent plan Do you think they ever had to make the a choice between feeding their family or putting $4.50 a gallon gas in their car so they could go to work. Yea I think not. Some of us have and u know what I'm tired of it.
i think they should give peolsi a medal for keeping her mouth shut about waterboarding, probably helped save thousands of lives
The CIA is going to drop on Pelosi like a freight train. Why do the libs always behave this way? Total lack of moral compass. I notice none of the dems in Congress are rushing to her defense. Probably because they don't want to come off as knee jerk hacks. I don't think Nancy can expect Schumer to have her back;
"We ought to be reasonable about this. I think there are probably very few people in this room or in America who would say that torture should never, ever be used, particularly if thousands of lives are at stake. …my guess is most Americans and most senators, maybe all, would say, ‘Do what you have to do.’ So it’s easy to sit back in the armchair and say that torture can never be used. But when you’re in the foxhole, it’s a very different deal.”
– Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY); June 8, 2004; Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing
The CIA is going to drop on Pelosi like a freight train. Why do the libs always behave this way? Total lack of moral compass. I notice none of the dems in Congress are rushing to her defense. Probably because they don't want to come off as knee jerk hacks. I don't think Nancy can expect Schumer to have her back;
"We ought to be reasonable about this. I think there are probably very few people in this room or in America who would say that torture should never, ever be used, particularly if thousands of lives are at stake. …my guess is most Americans and most senators, maybe all, would say, ‘Do what you have to do.’ So it’s easy to sit back in the armchair and say that torture can never be used. But when you’re in the foxhole, it’s a very different deal.”
– Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY); June 8, 2004; Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing
Pelosi is one of the most despicable characters in US history, but she has a lot of company in Frank, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy, Dodd, etc,etc. Maybe there has a been a time in American history where we've had so many morally bankrupt politicians in power, but I cannot think of any. (you fools who still suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome, save your comments and seek professional help).
I think Obama should make an exception to his no-torture policy and let the CIA water-board Pelosi. You know they want to. That's probably the only way we'll ever know the truth. Oh, wait, water-boarding doesn't work. Oh, what the hell, water-board her anyway.
I'm all for waterboarding, if we can use it on politicans, during election campagin.
I think the worst of the terrorist, are in Washington DC.
I could tell you why obama doesn`t want water boarding done to prisoners of this war. the answer is : because those terrorist are is people and his friends. and another thing, I hope if pelosi ever gets to be one of these prisoners,that we won`t water board her. We`ll just cut off her ugly head.