Pelosi under more fire

Finally, this anti-American snob gets hers...as it always happens to those who point fingers, the finger points back at them. So this is how the End Begins for the socialists who breifly steered wayward our Great Country...and it was over a Bush policy...how ironic....how sweet it is!!!

She needs to be GONE!!! Another Obama Blunder

Pelosi wants us to believe that the CIA conspired to place false information in the records against her some 7 years ago, because they knew she would be bringing this up in 2009. Her assertions are like the propaganda put out by the Russians many years ago. I say that we should nail her carcass to the wall. Let's remember she is only 2 heartbeats away from the presidency. She lacks all credibility and does not have the integrity to remain in office. The only way you can tell when Nancy Pelosi is lying is if her botox filled lips are moving!

the CIA lie they would never do something like that. it was okay when the righties where saying how bad the CIA's intelligence was as an excuse to go to war but how dare a woman criticize the almighty CIA

Too bad Pelosi has given the Bush apologists ammunition to deflect attention from the real liars in all this: Bush, Cheney, and their henchmen in Justice and the CIA. Nancy Pelosi and the Congress did not create and implement the policies which have caused all this acrimony, and to assert that she is somehow so complicit in their lies that she should step down is ludicrous. Of course she and the rest of the country were misled. Anyone without their head buried in the sand over the last eight years would be able to see that.

This is too funny!!!

I have many friends who live in Los Angeles.

I’m glad waterboarding got Khalid Sheik Mohammed to cough up the info that allowed the CIA to stop the 9/11 style attacks that he had planned for L.A. in 2005.

I can’t believe that there are so many people who would rather have had more toppled buildings and more thousands of dead civilians, as long as it meant that the terrorist who planned the attack remained comfortable and safe.

If anyone ever changes their account of an event or events, you may rest assured that they are lying. Nacy pelosi's nose should be about three feet long by now.

God Bless America.

So why is this such a big deal ? Reps started the Waterboarding and her knwoing or not would not have stopped Cheney and Rumsfield would have moved forward with their sadistic activities by justifying torture.

Lets get her under oath, and then bring forth the tapes which I am sure the CIA has. By By Pelosi.

Perhaps Ms. Pelosi, jet-lagged from her orgy flying about in Air Force jets at taxpayer expense, merely slept through the one briefing she admits to attending (of the many she should have attended). And perhaps Californians will find it in their hearts to elect someone that might actually show up to do the job she is paid to do and tell the truth about what was done. But calls for Pelosi to resign are silly. Only a person with integrity would resign in present circumstances.

How does Next Gingrich know she lied?
Don't know whether she did or not, don't care if she stays or goes, but it is certainly keeping in the Bush Administration's tradition of manufacturing evidence and/or politicizing everything they touch.
And for those of you that are offended buy politicians lying, where the hell were you from 2001-January, 2009? there's over 4200 American families who no longer have their loved ones based on the treachorous and heinous lies by Bush, et al. for going to war in Iraq.

She really might not remember being told about the waterboarding. She didn't remember that the TARP bill she signed explicitly said corporate bonuses were allowed. And when the FBI found that one Congressman had $50,000 of cash in his freezer, her solution was to put him on the National Intelligence Committee because "it wasn't related to the charges." Luckily, her collegues talked her out of giving a politician suspected of being for sale access to highly classified information. Still, lack of memory or current lack of judgment, she's not good for US National Security. We have all been wondering how long the Obama glow would last--but apparently it is starting to be okay for the media to do their job and

#15 RAD are you related to the Speaker? You might want to check, or would you like to buy some land in the desert?
She's lying, she's lying.........get it???

Easy way to do this to find out the truth is the same way they do for criminals and that is a lie detector test. If she has nothing to hide then she should agree and this would clean up this mess. However if she is lying it would stop her in her tracks and then she should step down. She shouldn't be afraid of her rights as she is working for us the people of the United States and also the speaker of the House.

In the rush to pass blame, and determine who authorized what and when, it is very sad, and has become all to clear, that Pelosi LIED about what she knew, and when she knew it herself.

What hope is there of getting to any truth, when the number 1 Democrat in the House is telling blatant lies about her own knowledge of the situation.

I love how Liberal knuckleheads call it "spin" or unimportant witch hunting when it comes to their party.
FACT: documented minutes of briefing ... show in detail that water boarding was mentioned as a use.
FACT: document in minutes that Pelosi asked if there were anything more they could do.
Present fact: Pelosi is NOT saying the CIA lied but "misled" her.
Conclusion: Pelosi and Obama are squirming their way out when their propaganda campaign backfires against them!

This is shameful. I look at our politicians as executives. For an executive to deny or mislead says a couple of things:

1. If Pelosi did not understand what she ws being briefed on, she should have asked for clarification to ensure she understood. If she is just taking a "joyride" in her position, she should not be in her position.

2. If Pelosi is attempting to "two-step" away from what any executive should be doing, she should not be in her position.

3. If she is outright lying, she should not be in her position.

Her best course of action would have been to admit she attended the briefings and may have misunderstood what she was being briefed on. If that had been the case, I believe most Americans would be more understanding, however, it is a bit late at this point. I am sure, regardless of one's political beliefs, there is a great loss in confidence in Pelosi being able to function in her current position.

It's too late for her to just say what she really knows and believes: "Waterboarding is NOT TORTURE!" So, back to the drawing board...lie lie lie

she has guilt all over her. They all knew what was being done and who cares. None of those terriosts cared about the 3000 that didn't survive 9/11 attacks.

RAD

You need to get back on your medication. Bush and Cheney, along with the CIA, have kept us attack free since 9/11. Why are you so angry, that we were not attacked again. Also, repeating the 'he said, she said' about speculative dates only reinforces the lemming theory. Unless you are a staffer or work with the CIA your apparent "do not confuse me with the facts my mind is made up" mentality is very scary. Put aside the politics and look at the cost/benefits of interogation...

Gee where is the GOP outrage over the people who authorised the torture? Oh yes, they will never admit they were wrong, but just keep lying, stalling, and trying to divert attention. Do I like Pelosi? No, but the blame for torture belongs to Bush, Cheney, Rice and the rest.

To the Pelosi supporters: She's had 6 different stories so far. This has never happened when someone is telling the truth.

Get help before it's too late.

I wonder why the CIA and the Bush Administration would just lie to her and not to ANYBODY ELSE!!!!!! She is clearly despicable, and anti-American. She should be forcefully removed from office (if she doesn't resign first). She and most other Democrats in Congress have a wicked agenda to try and destroy the Bush Administration, the Republican party, and even sink the U.S. into a bankrupt, Socialist pit. I hope the media finally does right by the American people and continues to probe for answers. Who knows, maybe she is right, but probably not.

The point is, we're not talking about torture of American citizens--this was torture of our enemies, not just for the fun of it, but using all measures to help thwart another terrorist attack! What pathetic morons try to treat war as if it's playing in a park! Get real. We're dealing with criminals who hate us, and Pelosi and the libs are trying to defend criminal's rights as if the were born citizens!

Torture...... living with the fact that a bunch of ragheads killed your father/mother/spouse/son/daughter on 911 and that it has been forgotten...I think that would be TORTURE...... To think that the President/Congress/ or some liberal do gooders worry about "legal rights" for terrorist... that would be TORTURE....

Waterboarding, I could care less if it saved an American life. A battery hooked to some terrorist go-nads.....just make sure you know which is postive and which is negative.if it saves an American life. If you like the ragheads so much go live theh with them.

PLEASE don't send her back to San Francisco.!

Give her a job back in her native Maryland as Stenny's caddie. She had plenty of experience as Cranston's 'bag lady.'

The truth is that the ENTIRE debate is irrelevant. The Right Thing should happen here:

1) Torture is and was illegal, both in the US and worldwide, and the US is obligated to prosecute everyone who did it, approved it or obstructed justice over it. Maybe pardons or leniency could be recommended depending on circumstances, but everybody gets prosecuted.
2) That includes Bush, Cheney, all the spineless lawyers, Nancy Pelosi, and anyone else involved. Rule of law means EVERYONE gets held accountable for breaking the law, regardless of how distracting or inconvenient it is.
3) To do this, you need a truth commission to find out what exactly happened. Stop screwing around, and FIND OUT.

Anything else demeans the honor of the United States of America, and makes it the subject of pity, scorn and derision in the eyes of God, and those sovereign nations that understand the implications and obligations of the rule of law.

Justice must be served, let the chips fall where they may.

Of course Pelosi lied, but that is NOT the issue.

The real issue is just how stupid people are who fail to recognize that every word from every politician’s mouth is one form of lie or another. Our political system virtually demands it.

George Lakoff at Berkeley has even attempted to make a science of the entire sweep of the duplicitous political arts to help further Democrat Party causes through systematic duplicity.

Comparing Republican lies with Democrat lies is instructional only to the extent that they prove politically effective and can be added to the duplicity arsenal for future issues.

I don’t know if George Washington really couldn’t tell a lie, but if so, he was the last politician in American history who didn’t rely entirely on duplicity to gain and exercise power. Of course, like every used car salesman, lying is more effective if politicians and their half-witted followers can bring themselves to believe their own lies first, but that is just method.

If you think that you have uncovered a statement by a politician that you believe to be the truth, you have simply failed to dig deep enough or wait long enough for facts to rise to the surface.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that Roosevelt, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama were so popular because they were all better actors than their fellow politicians and, consequently, could lie better. Both parties would be better served under our system to purposefully and systematically find and carefully groom farm teams and entire leagues of actors to run for office.

Yes, we are just that stupid.

Never mind the fact that her story changes day to day, that studdering and stammering yesterday made her look guilty as hell. What an embarrassment she is.

I agree 100% with RAD. Who cares whether or not Pelosi knew about it Bush and Cheney did it!!! Hello!!! Once again Republicans trying to put their mistakes off on the Democrats.

I'm amused at all the people calling this a distraction, considering all the distractions Obama and the Dem's have been using to further their agenda, this is actually the first one that's legit ! The women is a fool and is 3rd in line to the presidency, god help us all !

I'll bet you that Nancy never imagined that she'd experience for herself the shabby way the Democrats got rid of Tom DeLay some years ago. The irony is RICH!

One thing you need to remember about the "leadership" of Congress, as well as the White House - they never let the truth get in the way when they have a point to make.

Keep it up GOP and soon you will all be in jail where you belong. Pelosi is just getting the ball rolling. I love it.

Pelosi is a national dis grace to women & men of the United States of America; she SHOULD BE REMOVED from office;should have happened last Fall when she could not lead Congress re. the Lehrman(sp?) fiasco. My opinion is, Pelosi & Barney Frank, have many hidden agendas--she wants to be the 1st female President--I am a woman, very active in women's issues on the local level & I believe & also tell young women--you elect the Person not the sex, race, etc. You must know & understand all CREEDS--this is where the danger is. Obama should get her off is wonderful bandwagon--he has a chance to be named the Greatest President of the 21st Century; like FDR was the Greatest President of th

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The CIA lied to everyone in the run-up and aftermath of the war. The have rountinely misled us on intelligence and interrogation methods. Bush says we 'do not torture' while his veep says we 'did and have done so at will'. Pelosi has the backing of the administration and the American people on this one.

CLEANUP THE CIA!!!!!

Pelosi is a national dis grace to women & men of the United States of America; she SHOULD BE REMOVED from office;should have happened last Fall when she could not lead Congress re. the Lehrman(sp?) fiasco. My opinion is, Pelosi & Barney Frank, have many hidden agendas--she wants to be the 1st female President--I am a woman, very active in women's issues on the local level & I believe & also tell young women--you elect the Person not the sex, race, etc. You must know & understand all CREEDS--this is where the danger is. Obama should get her off is wonderful bandwagon--he has a chance to be named the Greatest President of the 21st Century; like FDR was the Greatest President of th

century
20th Cwentury--

Nancy Pelosi is brain malfunctioning woman of no substance. She is hurtting
the party . She must go.

Hopefully she has the guts to resign her speakership,before she brings the party down the tubes.What the heck is wrong with this woman?

In the case of Speaker Pelosi -- Political Power corrupts. Absolute political power corrupts absolutely. And evidently drives one to terminal stupidity.

It's a shame -- she appears to be an effective leader, but she has decided that the most important game our elected Congress can play is politics. If my Representative shares that priority, they can stay home next time.

Hey RAD, she is the one doing the distracting, not the GOP! And she is failing badly at it. Your clueless rant is no better than Pelosi's ranting and raving, both of you are lunitics!

Why should any house speaker, or other politician, tell the CIA, National Security Agency and others what to do, and in her case, what not to do with enemies of our Country?. Nancy Pelosi, is living in fantasyland, and so far removed from reality, it's scary. What does Nancy want the CIA to do? slap the Terrorists over the head with a Lollipop!!!!. . This kind of Liberal thinking, is weakening our Country. I don't think the Russians, Chinese, and other strong nations, are being told by Hollywood Liberals and people like Pelosi, on how not to administer torture on captured prisoners. If torturing terrorists, spies or whoever, saves hundreds and thousands of lives, then by all means do it.

Why should any house speaker, or other politician, tell the CIA, National Security Agency and others what to do, and in her case, what not to do with enemies of our Country?. Nancy Pelosi, is living in fantasyland, and so far removed from reality, it's scary. What does Nancy want the CIA to do? slap the Terrorists over the head with a Lollipop!!!!. . This kind of Liberal thinking, is weakening our Country. I don't think the Russians, Chinese, and other strong nations, are being told by Hollywood Liberals and people like Pelosi, on how not to administer torture on captured prisoners. If torturing terrorists, spies or whoever, saves hundreds and thousands of lives, then by all means do it.

Typical, it's always someone elses fault.

In the case of Speaker Pelosi -- Political Power corrupts. Absolute political power corrupts absolutely. And evidently drives one to terminal stupidity.

It's a shame -- she appears to be an effective leader, but she has decided that the most important game our elected Congress can play is politics. If my Representative shares that priority, they can stay home next time.

Maybe when Nancy Pelosi was young she banged her head on some kelp looking for the perfect wave. Since the day she became Speaker of the House her tone amazes me. Maybe she means well, but it may be time for her to seek a lesser role in the administration.

The logic of the GOP attack is utterly at its finest hour once again. The Bush White House commits the crime of trashing America's Constitution, Human Rights, Geneva Convention with waterboarding torture. But instead of fessing up, they divert attention by attacking Pelosi for knowing about it and not protesting. Are Americans that stupid to now focus on a bystander witness who should have protested? It's like a murderer commits his crime, but diverts his act by accusing a witness for not protesting his crime. The jury is dumb enough to focus on the witness and allow the real criminal off completely scott free. Every body hammers the witness for not doing enough while the real criminal smirks because nobody pays attention to his crime anymore.

Speaking of morons - good post RAD. It's easy to say things without proof to back it up and to make threats on people when they disagree with your outlook.

the two major parties are criminal enterprises, and their soldiers are shallow, name-calling tools.

Just what we (the country) need, the third person from the oval office calling an agency that has, and I hope will continue to, protect us with their lives, liars? Are you stupid lady? or are you so determined to destroy the republican party that you don't mind destroying the county at the same time? Please California - do something with your senator before she hands the white house back to the republicans in 2012!

I don't understand, if Iraq didn't have WMD why were U.N. inspectors given the run-a-round and not allowed to inspect certain locations prior to our ever going to war with Iraq? Wasn't the evidence of terrorists training within Iraqs borders prior to the war? This is not a threat to our nation? If torture saves American lives and helps the safety of our service men/women overseas, this is wrong? There is no doubt that Pelosi is a low life, self serving liar and knew all about this sort of activity when it was occurring! She knew the benifits of torture and CIA techniques long ago and sanctioned their use and now because liberals want to make this an issue and make it seem so horrible she is covering her ass by calling the CIA liars. What do we expect her to do ? She is a liberal politician and it's her job to to lie to the nation when it comes to protecting her reputation.

the two major parties are criminal enterprises, and their soldiers are shallow, name-calling tools.

make her step down, now, it is not just that she lied it is the fact she is mad because she got caught. we have seen this on both sides of the aisle, over and over again.

here is how it will play out "i'm sorry if i might have misspoken on the matter" WHAT? how about "i'm sorry i flat out lied"

From the briefing reports it sounds as if the only thing the Gang of Four was doing was asking the CIA if it needed more water. Regardless of who ordered the enhanced interrogation techniques, I'm happy as a clam they did. Nancy was obviously knowledgeable of what the CIA was doing and went along with it. That she's being vilified for having done so and lying about it is hilariously ironic to me. She and her ilk opened this can of worms and hopefully they will ultimately be forced to eat them.

I'm sorry to see the number of folks posting that this is just a "hack job" by the GOP or that there are more important things to worry about. She has gone out of her way to lie to the American people. It is obvious to anyone who can read or hear. Yet, it is also obvious that there are enough people who will believe a lie is truth if it is simply repeated enough. I'm afraid we really are doomed as a nation to slide into mundania. We have no right to greatness if we don't take the responsibility to maintain our ideals. We have come to see our elected "representatives" as better than us - and apprently so have they.

make her step down, now, it is not just that she lied it is the fact she is mad because she got caught. we have seen this on both sides of the aisle, over and over again.

here is how it will play out "i'm sorry if i might have misspoken on the matter" WHAT? how about "i'm sorry i flat out lied"

Will someone please explain why the CIA would lie at the time? It was 2002, and the GOP controlled both houses of Congress. So why would they need to lie? The fact is that she was told, and she thought it was fine at the time. Now that it doesn't fit into her narrative to continue to attack Bush/Cheney she's lying to cover her butt. I hope she has to resign for this - she's a disgrace.

Let me get this straight. The entire republican party bands together to defend the illegal torture that they themselves established, and now they want to investigate Pelosi?

I would say they can't possibly think the average citizens is that slow as to fall for a bait and switch like this.

How about prosecuting Bush and Cheney and Rove, and the Republican leaders for this. Then prosecute Cheney for war profiteering through Haliburton. Then we can worry about Pelosi.

I mean seriously. This is like a bank robber calling the police on a witness.

Since no one thinks Speaker Pelosi is stupid, we have to look for the reason why she is trying to destroy the CIA. Perhaps she thinks the Church Committee's emasculation of the CIA during the 1970's didn't go far enough; it only removed our ability to have active agents in the field. Or perhaps she knows the House of Representatives isn't capable of dealing with healthcare, putting millions of Americans back to work, and restoring our economy. Consequently, a diversionary truth commission will help us all keep our eyes off the ball.

Or perhaps she is really worried that someone will blame her for enabling the Bush Administration in any respect. Who knows? Madam Speaker knows

For JimMarine. If you want to know how this moron got this far in government all you have to do is to look at the morons who elected her.

Not that I like ANY politician, but blame the voters not the candidate.

Her next trip home, courtesy of the American taxpayer, should be a one way trip!

"I was briefed that there was a briefing"....what the?.....
She doesn't have GWB to attack anymore so now she is going after the CIA...way to go fool. I hope she steps down, then maybe Harry will follow....

Gee, I feel safe with her around....

Give Pelosi a break. She was probably way too drunk to recall her security briefings. And all this talk about how she lied??? Well, DUH, she's a politician.

Pelosi is no gem - I'de be glad to see her replaced by someone who isn't so firmly in bed with AIPAC. But how about the hypocrisy of Newt: apparently he thinks it's a "big deal" if the Speaker of the House were to "lie to the country on national security matters", and yet he had no problem with the non-stop, better documented and more serious lies that came from a President (Bush) and Vice-President (Cheney). Could it be that he's just a partisan hack?

Waterboard Pelosi then maybe we'll get the truth :-)

PELOCCHIO! Your nose is gonna grow!

Ok so lets see.........
Why Pelosi is not fit for office
She couldnt come out with a statement against the war, yet we elected a president that stood firm on that and did just that. So politicaly correct she is not.
The CIA lied to her.......why only say that now? Is it not her role to help right corruption?
If she is as un-aware as she wants us to believe, then why is she just a step away from running the country.
Run Forest run..............

I am ready to vote for all politicians to take annual mandatory polygraph tests. I have had to take them in the past for employment positions. Why not them?
What could be of greater concern than the integrity of our country and the loyalty of the members who have sworn to serve the people with honesty?
If nothing dishonest is going on there should be no need to refuse. It is only if the politician has alterior motives and has crossed the line should they be afraid.
I am personally sick and tired of the waste of money blown off Capitol Hill. If the general public truly knew the extent of the frivolous spending continually going on Capitol Hill it would immediately spark a new revolution. Pelosi can test first.

She is an idiot. Never seen such an arrogant snob in my life. I can't believe California deals with her. Look at the issues California has and she is trying to bring the rest of us down with it. Get rid of her.

Another attempt by the right to lie, stall, and divert. Anything but actually admit they were wrong! Do I like Pelosi? No, she should have impeached Bush. This is where the focus should be, on the Bush administration, where torture was authorized. Now we see the scum of the GOP, like Gingrich, rising up in phony wrath, what a bunch of hypocrites.

GET RID OF HER

It's all Bush's fault! Nancy is not to blame, It's that nasty Bush guy. He made her lie.

This would be even better if those of you harping on about how this is all GOP spin weren't using non-factual MoveOn.org spin as your factual basis.

Reality being what it is, Pelosi's job was to provide oversight over the Bush administration and the CIA. That is the point of the briefings. Gingrich is on the money pointing out that her current statements show that she is either incompetent or a liar, possibly both. His own baggage aside(and remember, we DID make him step down) he is correct in his conclusions.

As for what was done, when, and by whom, you folks who've never had to do anything hard like kill your own food or make a decision harder than not getting a leather interior need to know that there must be those 'rough men who stand ready to do violence on your behalf'. While there must be checks and balances, if you prevent our national defense organizations from doing their jobs, more bad things will happen to Americans.

Oh, wait! But you still have big American White guilt! You think Americans deserve to die for being wealthy and successful relative to the nations in the world that don't have free societies, human rights, and strong internal security structures.

The show from the loonies on the left is getting exciting every moment and they deserve it for trying to overturn every single stone they claimed need to overturn."Ouch! it bit me" ha,ha,ha,ha,he,he,he,he,ha,ha,ha,ha, hey loonies there's a scorpion underneath".Run for your life Ms Speaker take others with you.

What's really scary is that she's 3rd in line for the Presidency!

Someone from the White House has to convince Nancy that what she really wants at this time in her life is to spend more time with her family, and to help her out the door she should be given some kind of chancellorship at some state campus in Californinia (a "Meahan-ship"), so save the Congress and country from further distraction and embarrassment from her incredibly petty behavior.

I never liked Pelosi. She should be held accountable for her statement. This is ridiculous.

I cannot believe she is speaker. She is AWFUL!

The problem with Speaker Pelosi (and for that matter many, if not all Politicians) is that they grandstand and play politics with everything, serious people know that hard decisions have to be made. Speaker Pelosi has spent so much time demonizing George Bush that it's only natural that what goes around comes around. I don't understand why Democrats have to villify W, the guy was doing what he thought was right, ok you don't agree with it, fine change it and move on. Pelosi represents the absolute worst of politics, she seems crazy as a loon & convinced of her own moral superority. Of course no one is going to cut her break, when has she done that for others? You don't have to go home but you can't stay her here

Is there anything that you liberal Moonbats don't think Bush or Cheney are responsible for? Honestly, "Bush and Cheney ordered Torture". Are you people serious? Do you really think field agents in the CIA scale the ladder all the way up to the President to ask permission to torture a terrorist? That kind of ignorance is inexcusible, and I refuse to believe you people are that stupid. Actually....

Have you ever heard of the Moonbat who Cried Wolf?

Next time you whimsically pawn something off on Bush and Cheney make sure you don't let out a 'Baaahhh', you SHEEP!

Being an independent of sound mind and body, I find it amusing that most people posting believe that only one party is responsible for this whole mess and should be brought to justice. First off, I'm not convinced any 'torture' took place. Suppose a nuclear bomb was onboard a ship heading to one of our ports? No waterboarding anyone who has information? Second, Iraq was a huge mistake, but I support the troops. And finally, 100+ civilians were just killed in a US bombing raid, so if we want to pursue war crimes, let's get the WHOLE bunch of them, including our deeply beloved messiah, Obama. I'd like to see more people in the US think for themselves instead of jumping on one wagon or the other. You do realize that's exactly what they want you to do.

Waterboarding's too good for her; besides, she wouldn't recognize it.
There must be a better way to get the truth out of her. I know! How about a press conference where she'll be grilled by the anti- administration truth seeking media.

Let me get this straight. We are concerned about angering our enemies by waterboarding because that would make them mad at us (the USA and our military) and hate us? Am I missing something here? Aren't they already mad at us and don't they already hate us? Isn't that why 3,000 innocent people were slaughtered on September 11th, 2001? Isn't that why 4,000 soldiers, sailors and Marines have been killed in Iraq and Afganistan? Maybe we should be more concerned with the fact that the US media and the democratic party are only too eager to publish our techniques of interrogation, our manning levels of the various theaters of war, our military's capabilities (eg. lack of armor on humvees and personnel carriers) and our own internal strife that our enemies are feeding off. How about some patriotism and some semblence of integrity when discussing such matters. We should not be politically correct when fighting a war. War is by definition the absense of political discourse and the total breakdown of diplomacy. The US Military has gone out of its way to try and minimize collateral damage and the death of civilians -more so than any country in any conflict over the course of history. The thugs and terrorists we are fighting do not believe in mercy, or political correctness; they feel no remorse even when they kill their own people in pursuit of their agendas. They are not signators to the Geneva Convention or any other treaties that proscribe or prohibit specific actions, methods or weapons in the rules of conflict. Why should we provide them with comfort or legal status once they have been captured (we aren't arresting them for being mean or for stealing someones property). They have been captured because they are murdering fanatics; religious zealots, bent on KILLING as many people who do not believe in their god and their warped philosophies as possible until the WORLD buckles to their pressure and gives up. We should be concerned with eliminating these animals with whatever means are at our disposal. If that means we disrupt the lives of their friends and neighbors, who have allowed them to fester in their country, so be it. If Iraq and Afganistan cannot put their house in order and remove these vile individuals and they continue to spread their hate and murderous ways to our borders, then shame on them and suffer the consequences of their lack of action. We fought our own revolutionary and civil wars to clean up our house. We fought World Wars I and II to clean up Europe and Asia. We fought in Korea and Vietnam to stop the spread of vile dictators and communist thugs. We've done our part time and again and other than maintaining strategic military bases in those countries, we have recieved very little material benefit from all our good will and the blood that has been shed by our military. Stop crying over maggots being tortured with the "feeling of drowning". Stop telling the world how we got information out of Shiek Kalid Muhamed and stop trying to play nice with the world that has done very little by way of stepping to the plate and cleaning up their own back yards until it is so far gone that the United States has to again come and pull their chestnuts from the fire!

Why are Republicans asking her if 'torture' was going on? Doesn't make sense; since they were the ones informing her that it was going during Bush's Adminerstration.

Pelosi lied, I find that hard to beleive.
After all she is a devout Catholic, and she even met the Pope. Well allegedly met the Pope since he had the good sense to stiff arm here and meet in a side room without any phot ops.
And just the other day she shows up in Baghdad to schomooze with the same soldiers she disparaged in the past five years.
She is a total fraud, has been for years. And you can bounce a quarter off that face it is so tight after years of work.

The Pelosi thing is nothing more than an attempted diversionary tactic to draw attention from what Bush and his fellow miscreants did. The assertion that someone else knew what was going on is not a valid defense. It is being employed as a confusing sidetrack. I say "Full speed ahead with the investigation!".

I love the people on here as well as the Boston Globe....please stop referring to waterboarding as torture. If you must use the word then say something like "a technique some consider torture" There is no proven fact that it is torture. It breaks no laws the US has signed on to. Torture is making somebody sit through a propoganda videotape as you hold a blade centimeters from their neck, make them beg for their lives, and then behead them Torture is not pouring water on someones head, it is not having a large mean dog on a leash bark at you, it is not having to sit in a room all by yourself, it is not being made to stand on a box and told if you touch the floor you will be electrocuted. That is not torture, they are mind games.
The democrats knew exactly what GWB was doing, the dems were given all the same info as everyone else. Is it easier to believe Nancy Pelosi is lying or is it easier to believe GWB was the mastermind behind an entire plan to decieve the entire world....I find GWB alleged limited lack of intelligence to make the latter not very believable, the former though, well lets face it that has been proven to be true by the evidence.

She needs to resign. The Democrats are in shambles. Obama is president because of his persona nothing more. He is a failure and more folks are waking up to that reality.

I love it, The GOP throwing Stones and Newtered Gingrich dares to lead the pack...the last time he threw a stone he was forced to resign from the Speakership himself.
Anything being told by the CIA, especially without a name to go with it, can hardly be taken as truthful. Especially, when, as I recall, George Tenet was still heading it up while this was apparently happening.

This whole thing has become absurd. I suggest we let all these knuckleheads--Pelosi, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Cheney, Reid--throw in Deval for good measure--stand in a circle with pistols and fight it out. Oh, no, wait, that'd leave Cheney standing alone...arrggh!!

An Obama blunder? You should get your facts straight. Obama did not appoint Pelosi, she was already speaker of the house before Obama took office. Why don't we stop attacking Pelosi and direct this anger toward some good in our country. If you must get angry with someone how about the former PRESIDENT who lied to the whole country??? so Gingrich needs to shut his trap and all these greedy, lazy, redneck republicans need to stop creating a distraction and focus on real issues.

Gingrich's comment about not lying about national security matters is a little ironic. I wouldn't have given him much credit for having a sense of humor. I'm trying to recall what he said about Bush when he and all of his administration were lying about national security to the point that we have 4000 troops dead and nearly 200,000 still in harms way. No one who ever backed Bush has any legitimacy in this argument. As far as Pelosi goes, she was sworn to secrecy then, recalling we were in a state of war no matter how illegitimate and to some degree we still are.

What does Newt Gingrich know except how to dodge the draft, cheat on his wives, and offer divorce papers to his wife following cancer surgery ?
As a veteran of 31 years of military service, I am glad that Gingrich never wore the uniform of his country.
A true moral degenerate

When it comes to defining torture, was it "torture" for Obama to order the pirates to be executed by snipers if that captains life was in imminent danger a few weeks back, or do the Democrats believe it is more inhumane to waterboard in order to get information from a terrorist if such information is about an imminent danger to a group of people (ie: would knowledge of a car bomb planted outside a hotel constitue a proverbial "gun to the head" of potential victims in the hotel)? Why aren't Democrates crying "foul" that those pirates were executed- wasn't that the ultimate act of torture? So if you waterboard a terrorist to get information that saves multiple lives that is bad, but if you kill three pirates to save one life that is acceptable? When the first attempt was made by Bin Laden, etc., to blow up the World Trade Center with a bomb in a van in the underground parking garage of the buildings back in 1992, do Democrats think that was just an attempt by terrorists to disrupt parking for office workers, or possibly an attempt to topple two skyscrapers with a capacity to kill 25,000+ office workers?

POLITICIANS ARE ALL SCUM ENRICHING THEMSELVES AT PUBLIC EXPENSE. WAKE UP AMERICA. DON'T RE-ELECT ANYONE. THE COUNTRY IS BANKRUPT. HYPERINFLATION COMING SOON AS THE DOLLAR DIES.

I do not like Pelosi and will be glad to see her step down
but can we persecute Dick Cheney and George Husch first
for crying out lout the VP was setting a special office to run
covert operations! - read Simon Hirsch
hello!!

John- Not proven torture??? How on earth would you define someone forcing you to simulate the feeling of drowning. That has to be a joke. I'd love to see you try and make it through one round of waterboarding, and then we can talk about what torture is defined as.

So let me get this straight, knowing of a crime being committed does not make you complicit Nancy Pelosi; Demo-Rats? Sooo if Bush/Cheney is to blame which I'm sure is the general concensus HERE on this Liberal Rag mouthpiece for the Obama Administration comment board, and the interrogation efforts were provided in the form of briefs to Pelosi, shouldn't she have come out then against the acts? Could she dare try and stop these horrible methods that saved American Lives? Nope! 8 years you clowns have been piling on Bush, and you can't help yourself, it's all you have. It is a convenient excuse for all the things that have gone wrong in your life. --PATHETIC

To Joe R. DITTO DITTO & DITTO
We are not dealing with all the things President Bush did or did not do. We are dealing with Nancy Pelosi who lied, she just got caught on this one. I'm just glad that I don't live in San Francisco and have to claim her as my representative.

Who CARES what Newt Gingrich thinks? He left Congress in disgrace, and his words are irrelevant now. It's like listening to Karl Rove or Tom DeLay disparage someone else - one has to wonder: Why isn't this guy in jail instead of having his every thought posted on Boston Globe's news site?

Some day, maybe journalists will realize that these guys shouldn't matter.