Global warming study: US has already started changing

Another sky is falling piece and it does not deal with the science at all. They are really guessing at why all the earth changes and it scares them. Come up with something till we figure it out, huh. =-)

Do a wiki search of John P. Holdren. Crackpot alarmist....next!

Disagree? Please feel free to go out and have a state subsidized vasectomy. Please.

I hope it continues to warm. A warmer climate will use less fossil fuels in the winter. It will also boost crop production with a longer growing season.

Just remember one thing as read this report. The hottest global temperatures of the last 12 years was 1998.

If you want to fight global pollution, start with China, then India, then maybe Mexico.

This report is just an excuse for 'researchers' to ask for more funding, while the government raises taxes. Mexico burns tires for fuel, while the US government worries about which light bulb I use.

Baloney.

CO2 rises IN RESPONSE to any warming, it doesn't cause it. Furthermore, it's not a pollutant as plants NEED it. So tree-huggers want to take away their friends' CO2? Talk about irony.

Not only that, but we're actually headed into another ice age. Summers haven't been quite so hot lately here in Ohio.

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Time to stop with all the studies. Do something about it! There is a group at Columbia University working on scrubbing CO2 out of the atmosphere, CHEAPLY!!! Get some of the stimulus package money to them and get a prototype running before the end of the year. Even if it does not work 100%, tweek it until it does.

Like most studies done by governments this is also one that is skewing evidence to make a political point as to control people. The earth is far more influenced by sunspots and the solar cycle and slight differences in our earth's orbit and distance from the sun than from human activity. Carbon dioxide is the least of all the global greenhouse gases - water is far more effective as are other gases in keeping the earths heat in. Carbon dioxide is actually a symptom of global warming as the oceans get heated by a hotter sun. The political aspect of global warming is to make people ready to pay new taxes, pay for new means of travel and pay for new industries that you bet the politicians and their friends are investing in right now. they release more

This is politics, not science. Contray to the familiar mantra from of climate alamists, the science is as unsettled as the weather. Many scientists including respected atmospheric scientists are publishing studies critical of many aspects of CO2-induced global warming orthodoxy. Dismissing all scientific critics as tools of the oil and coal industries is flatly wrong-headed. It is well past time for the Globe to do an in depth investigation on how climate special interests have turned science on its head in a massive case of group think reminescent of the leadup to the Iraq war. If there were a prize for journalistic malpractice, it would go to the entire mainstream American press. Once again, your are failing in your duty to the American public to question authority.

HORSE-HOCKEY

salem, oregon

now if we could do something about inflation!

What amazing gall and hubris is exhibited by those propounding the arguments for carbon-dioxide based global warming. One can only hope that the Earth and Sun will reveal the folly of these overwrought misanthropes before we waste more lives and money on their schemes.

Gimme a break. Why is this crap considered news worthy.

Please stop calling it Global Warming. It isn't that. Its Climate Change. The govn't report doesn't call it that in a single place, and I'm glad for it. This is too important to label incorrectly.

This study is CRAP. The people who wrote this nonsense are the same exact people who would get big promotions and raises to run the "cap and tax" program. And no one in the press sees this? Shame on the Globe.

This "study" is so ridiculous, it is beyond any common sense. They say the earth is warming -- it is cooling. They say ocean levels will rise, and have no evidence or theory to support this. This is the craziest document ever published on this subject.

The earth is millions of years old. We have been taking accurate temp. readings for what 100 maybe 200 years. They called it man made global warming, cooling, than it was warming again, and now they changed it to just "global climate change". They cant possibly know if global climate change is real, and if it is real that man is causing it. But lets destroy our economy just in case.

Curious that this report comes out just prior to the real start of the "cap and trade" discussions. Also, curious that the "results" fly in the face of other, more comprehensive studies showing the CO2 comes after warming throughout history. In addition, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is so small as to be negligible. A little too politically motivated, I feel.

I remember in the 70's the government freaked us out about lowering temperatures and expanding glaciers that would freeze us to death, and the warnings about sever overpopulation that would starve us to death and potentially require euthanasia to control the population as well as the necessity for extreme birth control measures. Any idiot who listens to government warnings about global temperature/climate change cause and effect is about as dim as the energy saving bulbs in their lamps!

I guess your going to have to hold your breath.
Go to www.whatsupwiththat.com for the real truth.
How is global warming going to explain the current ice age building on our door steps right now?

OK, I buy climate change, it always has and always will. Prove to me that man made carbon dioxide is the problem. Assuming you can do that, what are we going to do about China and other fast developing countries. We sit here and go out of business with no energy while they grow like mad. We starve, they develop, who is the smarter?

I am still waiting for one of the global warming freaks to show how human activity is causing the global warming on the planet Mars (yes, the polar icecaps are receding on Mars)! Until they do, then the obvious and logical conclusion is that any global warming that is occurring on the planet Earth is also a natural and NOT a man made occurrence.

I do believe in global warming. But my research shows that San Jose CA was colder by 1 degree a day in 2008 versus 1958. I didn't expect that. Then I checked Anchorage AK. It was also significantly colder in 2008 than in 1958 and this year is colder than 2008 in both places.

Does that mean anything? I do know that Alaska has been getting a fraction of the usual snowfall these past 10 years. So less snowfall would mean faster glacier and polar cap melts. But that is not because of any warming. just less snow to melt.

its 2009 and our so called government; you know the people that run our country, can't force automobile manufacturers to create earth friendly means of transportation thats affordable for everyone not just the rich. And, why do Americans have to have such big vehicles like Suburbans and Cadilac Escalades. I still hear ignorant people saying I want a SUV, I say to the ignorant people that I personally know, "Why". Its a waste of fuel and you dont really need it.

This is just another unscientific, worthless piece of propaganda put out by global warming alarmists, who for some reason totally ignore the precepts of science in their zeal to implement their goal of transforming society. The warm period which we are now in began around 1850 with the waning of the Little Ice Age. This was preceded by the Medieval Warm Period, which was at least as warm as today, although there was about 100 parts per million less carbon dioxide in the atmosphere then. It's important to remember that the current warm period is in no way out of the ordinary - it is within the bounds of natural variation. CO2 is really just a very minor greenhouse gas.

most global warming stories are about the hypothesized effects of global warming, including this one. since the title was "Global warming study released," I was hoping it would address the scientific principles behind why global warming is happening, which seem to be largely faulty in principle.

first off, there is NO demonstrable proof that a rise in atmospheric CO2 generates a rise in global temperature. second off, hasn't the global temperature been decreasing since 2007? third off, how much evidence is there that temperature monitoring stations located in increasingly urbanized populations are adjusted for increasing surface albedo?

more concrete on the ground = higher temperature above said ground.
more people on earth = more people effected by climate.
more technology to instantaneously share worldwide events = more weather events recorded.

perhaps that is a sufficient - and more reasonable, logical - explanation of "global warming" altogether?

I would be very interested to see the actual data of this study. The reason being: I have serious doubts about any study that claims to be able to "directly link" man-made CO2 and global warming. Man-made CO2 makes up such a small fraction of the total CO2 in the atmosphere, and CO2 itself makes up such a vanishingly small percentage of gases in the atmosphere, to claim that they can directly link man made plant food (err CO2) to a rise in temperatures seems a bit presumptuous. Also I find it interesting that there will both more floods due to more rain, and more drought in this report. Somehow an earlier growing season is somehow a bad thing, despite world wide hunger and greater demand for Ethanol and that weeds would grow faster but not crops? I read stuff like this and it makes my stomach churn. Is there such a thing as an unbiased, no-agenda study on global warming? Or perhaps a public that can actually see bias in statements like "weeds will grow faster". but that is what you get when over 50 billion dollars is spent studies done by scientists who make their living based on the threat of global warming, and only 5 million spent on studies done by the other side. Like I said, show me the data, and please (ahem IPCC) remember to include the sun in your computer models this time.

What bull, this is all political. Has anyone noticed that the warming has stopped over ten years ago and there is a cooling trend for the last Three years. None of the models used predicted the cooling trend. All the models predicted a hot spot in the troposphere that has yet to appear. Climate is controlled by the sun and orbital variations and there is plenty of science to support this, as well as real world observations. I am a grape grower and am experiencing the coldest spring in twenty years. There is no money or political power to be gained with No Climate Crises. The government wants your money and more power and will gladly lie to get it. They need to do it soon it is getting colder.

you complain about warming and that we need to do some changes.Well you have people saying yes change but not in my back door. Take wind farms. We have lots of wind but you have people yelling not in my back door its ugly, We have to save the birds they fly into them so take them down. now for cars everyone of us would love to drive a electric car save gas but when they cost so much and people don't have jobs no one will buy them they don't have the money too buy them. If the car dealers brought them down to under 10,000 i am sure you would see a lot more on the road and in the long run would make the car company's money, but they don't want to do that. So go ahead and complain.until profits come out of the picture

Did they really release it when its 55 degrees outside in the middle of June?

This is like when Al Gore's Senate testimony about "global warming" was canceled due to snow.

I'm on board with none of this until the Chinese and Indians stop spewing out more pollution than we could ever dream of.

So maybe i am missing something here but where is the proof that man-made carbon dioxide is the cause of this?

A large part of the problem that's rarely mentioned is that the CO2 / warming relationship is symbiotic by nature. The warmer it gets, the more CO2 is released from decaying land matter and the less CO2 the oceans and other waters can keep in solution.

CO2 = warming = more CO2 = more warming .....

Gosh, they seem to love listing the negative effects of global warming, but there's no mention of all the positive things that will take place (both short-term and long-term) IF the gobal temperature rises. Don't know what I'm talking about? Then you've only been reading the "consensus science" of doom and gloom. Go look stuff up, global warming has happened before, will happen again, and is supposed to be happening now.

Does no one, not even the President's Director of Science and Technology, bother to actually read the UN's IPCC reports, the ones that contain global weather satellite data on the globe's climate? If anyone would bother to do that, starting with the original IPCC report, they would find out that since 1979 the planet, in aggregate, has actually experienced a slight COOLING since then.

Are there spots on the globe that have experienced warming during that time frame? Yes, just as are locations that have experienced cooling during that time frame.

However, in aggregate, and as a planetary whole, there has been a slight global cooling since 1979. That is what the global weather satellite observations tell us, and those observations are the ONLY truly global weather and climate measurements that we have.

If journalists actually understood climate science, bothered to read more than IPCC report summaries, and understood that the world's cities, which have been growing, are heat producing and measuring "islands" (but hardly the whole globe's surface, which is seventy percent water after all) they wouldn't keep trying to scare the beejesus out of people with scientifically clueless stories about the true state of the globe's climate.

Will journalists bother to do that, though? No. A globe not in peril doesn't sell newspapers, and it doesn't sell Al Gore's goofy and nation bankrupting PC agenda very well either.

So, those of us who actually bother to read and understand weather satellite observations of the globe will continue to be treated to stories about South American glaciers that, to unschooled journalists, have inexplicably continued to grow in the face of the phoney baloney peril of global warming.

The good news is that ten years from now we'll be back to reading stories about the coming ice age, stories which if they were actually true, would represent a much greater threat to the continued existence of human life on the planet than would than the minimal amount human activity could ever raise global temperatures (absent our ability to set off several volcanoes at once, anyway).

Yet more government propaganda designed, under the surface, to scare the American people into accepting yet another gigantic "bail-out". General Electric, who owns NBC, will make trillions in "green technology", which pays off Obama's campaign debt to that lobbyist. It is a simple thing to merely follow the money, folks. Of course it makes sense to conserve energy, because you are not putting those hard-earned Stimulus dollars into the back pockets of "Big Energy". As for mankind being able to stem whatever our Sun decides to do, however? I'm afraid even The Messiah in Washington cannot bring about "Change" to that entity.

if this is true, won't food crops grow faster also? less fuel used to heat homes in the winter?more acreage for farm crops? longer growing seasons?seems to me that there would be quite a few advantages to this also.

all of you right wing fools that have gone around like sheep bleating out your rush limbaugh inspired BS: good job. How you feeling? Good? All right! Give me five, big guy!

How would more heat and drought lead to more mosquitoes? Wouldn't those changes dry up the puddles in which mosquitoes reproduce?

Global warming is a fraud, based on fraudulent data put out by fraudsters.

Global cooling is obviously underway globally ---- just look at the record snows and cold temperatures and the "year with no summer".

The global warming fraudsters should be jailed.

Is this why Chicago has had its coldest June in 50 years? And why North Dakota had its first snowfall in June for 60 years? And why one year ago last week it was snowing in my home town in Idaho? And why for the last five years, average global temperatures have been falling? And why they won't tell you that the "cap and trade" plan for dealing with "global warming" will cost the average American household $1218?
H. L. Menken said it best: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Chicken Little has published his report. He simply needs hundreds of billions of dollars to fend off the certainty of this disaster. And then, when the sky doesn't fall in the next 100 years, he will have been a hero.
In the meantime, though the oceans haven't risen a millimeter, he continues to put forth his enviro-political agenda which enables him and his cronies to set world policy and bring the selfish, wasteful American consumer to his knees.
Bravo, Chicken Little! Keep up the good work. Apparently your rant is not falling on deaf ears.

"Longer droughts" and at the same time "more floods." This doesn't even make sense.

Tell it to the farmers in Canada whose crops are failing because of cold weather. Tell it to the people in Chicago.
Al Gore is a fraud.

Fox (fixed) news has just confirmed that global warming is a lie perpetrated by the right. With this in mind, we must all know that it can't be true.

I notice the "government report" is NOT a scientific study done by a scientific agency. VERY INTERESTING propaganda.

does this mean no more Coke and Pepsi?? since the fizz in them is carbon dioxide.

geeze We live in Colorado- it was trying to snow 2 weeks ago. We are still waiting for summer to hit yet. It is 76 degrees today. Should be in the high 80s at this point. We do not live in the mountain either. It still is getting down to the 40s and low 50s at night. I remember growing up that the we were supposed to see another ice age soon. Remember that? Science cannot even tell us what the temps are supposed to be next month or even next week. Why should we jump on over cliff with the rest of the lemmings? I dare anyone to view the weather patterns over the last 10, 20 or 30 years and still purport this swill. Well there is some good money to be made with this racket so maybe hmmmm. And who is this lush rimbaugh guy? I sure don't listen to bombastic, populist republickins or dimocracts. I like facts not fiction.

Stupidity is rampant. Why fight it? Take advantage of as many idiots as you can. Al Gore does. :)

What BS. Totally Science Fiction

I like to think of myself as a PhD who looks at data dispassionately. In my view, the report, which focuses on worst-case scenarios, is not fair. It ignores the serious flaws in the predictive validity of the studies. An unbiased scientist would have to agree that so much of the data that goes into the predictive models are highly speculative and thus it truly is premature to risk huge percentages of GDP and expenditures of human capital and increased human discomfort based on such flimsy predictions.

1 - Its called climate change. Tools
2 - are you willing to risk your children’s future for sources of sustainable fresh water, clean oceans that support life, and stability of the growing season(s)?
3 - is there a better alternative? I know - we could always communicate with the rovers on Mars to start sowing some magical seeds.

~Want not, waste not and make better-educated decisions. Plan for the future or always be picking up the pieces.

Interesting bunch of comments. Why is everyone so intent in believing that this research is some self serving piece of propaganda? Climate change is clearly happening; now whether it is Global Warming, Global Cooling or Global bull crap is irrelevant.

The point is that no one really knows what's going on with Mother Gaia and the only thing we can do is go with what makes sense: Save resources, stop unnecessary CO2 generation and overall be better citizens. That's the bottom line.
Whether the research is correct or incorrect is not something I care to find out; the climate changes are having serious political, environmental and economical impacts and we are responsible for slowing it down as much as we can., with however little information we really have.

Of course everything is a plot! I just wonder which plot is responsible for the birds migrating north earlier and south later, the loss of ice coverage in both the north and south and low islands loosing land area to the sea. Of course in geological time these conditions existed. However it is difficult for me to believe that these changes, within my lifetime, are "normal" climate variations.

What a bunch of crap in this so called global warming study. Here in North Dakota we planted our corn and beans two weeks later than normal this spring because of cold temperatures.

Our soil temps are colder than normal, with many farm gardens being replanted in June. Garden seeds did not sprout with the cold soil temperatures of May 2009. And colder soil temps have prevented our pasture grasses from starting to grow until now here in mid-June.

Wy don't all these Right Wing Limbaugh lovers move to Florida to make their point. That'll solve the problem.

all of you left wing fools that have gone around like sheep bleating out your AlGore inspired BS: good job. How you feeling? Good? All right! Give me five, little man !

I wish I could find that article on the when the Canadian permafrost recently melted revealing the remains of a thousands of years old forest above the Arctic Circle...long before man was here to warm it up...proving the Earth goes in cycles and we're not the cause.

What total BS. But what should I expect from the Boston Globe. If you want to believe ALL of the data from the global temperature monitoring sites, then the warming trend stopped in 2000 and the globe has actually cooled over the past two years and the amount of cooling has offset ALL of the reported warming that may have occurred in the past 50 years... Get all of the facts and not just the ones you want to use.

Of course there's global warming, that's why I'm buying up what will some day be prime beach front property on the coast of Alaska. When it really heats up I'm rolling in the dough after I sell out to Club Med.

The whole AGW debate is complex, but the comments here strike me as simplistic in their denials. Obviously, this is not the best forum for debating the merits of the AGW hypothesis; there are a number of good sites for that debate. But why are there so many deniers showing up here? And why do they bother making their claims? Do they believe that they can somehow shout down science? The science of AGW will progress despite their denials. This report is just one more brick in a mighty and growing edifice of evidence. The deniers are fighting the wrong battle and their defeats just keep growing. I wonder at what point they will finally yield to reality.

Why is it that it seems most of the population agrees that the Global Warming scare is just that - a scare with no real backbone. Yet, we keep seeing reports and articles like this. In Jacksonville, Florida last winter, we had atleast 5 nights of temps in the teens. It was the coldest winter since the early 1990's. Everyone on my street lost their cold hardy palms (except me - used tarps and Christmas lights). Point is, everyone is seeing and experiencing much colder temperatures.

Looks like the corporate polluters organized a comment writing campaign on sites like this. The global warming denyers writing these comments are not bright enough to know they're being used to help spread the propaganda. Can there be that many "ditto heads" reading this column? But maybe not, maybe it's one or two people who are being paid and using aliases.

As ignorance is bliss, there are apparently a good number of exremely happy posters here who are too happy to swallow whatever propaganda they choose to believe.

Hey doc, you misspelled cooling. mowrong.

Global Warming AKA anti-capitalism.

One of many means by which the socialist want to stop the Massive
Success of Judeo-Christian Capitalism.

Create a phantom problem then jump up and claim to present the solution, which only deals with a phantom symptom, but... which creates more real problems... and so on! They are insane... but they know what they are doing!

Amazing what selective memories global warming skeptics have. Talk about how much snow there was this past winter and conveniently forget that the snow never stuck around because the temps always shot up to 50 within a week. Been to Chatham lately? The 1987 storm that caused the break-through seemed like a once in a lifetime event, and now we have another break-through. We might save on winter heating, but summer cooling's sure going to get more expensive.

Personally, I don't care if your kids fry, but I'd like my kids to have a habitable planet to live on.

the latest brilliant graduating class of rush limbaugh's climate change 101 seems to be weighing in. what brains, ignoring the 99% of scientists while worshipping limbaugh's daily denial brilliance. what a shame there are 1000 radio stations licensed to serve in the public interest giving morons like limbaugh and hannity the loudest voice in the country, like paul reveres in reverse, obstructing progress on environmental issues that will cost americans many billions from extreme weather and crop damage. and no, human induced changes like we are seeing cannot be compared to long term natural changes. but they can be compared with short term catastrophic extinction events.

You sound like kids that think that it will never happen to me. Global climate change may not be the end of our world, but it WILL end our way of life. People will be displaced. Weather patterns will change. Our food supply will be different. The attitudes expressed in this thread are the attitudes that have caused our financial system to go down the crapper and the overall quality of our country to decline. Very selfish with little regard for preserving the quality of life we currently have for those that will come later. Take take take for ourselves cause we won't be around to see what happens. Shame on you people.

Global warming? Really? Yeah ok. That's why it's still cold here in NH. Give me a break.

Global Warming AKA anti-capitalism.

One of many means by which the socialist want to stop the Massive
Success of Judeo-Christian Capitalism.

Create a phantom problem then jump up and claim to present the solution, which only deals with a phantom symptom, but... which creates more real problems... and so on! They are insane... but they know what they are doing!

It is unfortunate that at this late date the politions still don't get it. A series of hearings again. By now you'd think they'd heard enough. We need action, not words. We're talking about a United States that is uninhabitable. Where are 450 million people going to go?

Anyone who is genuinely concerned about this issue has learned by now (the hard way) to forgo any expectation of productive discussion in the Comments sections of news articles such as the above and is going directly to the studies in order to stay current with what is being observed and quantified by the international climate research community.

It is noted that those in perpetual denial of what is in fact occurring on this planet have gotten better organized at keeping up with the obstructionist talking points du jour and have become quite convincing as they rush from one news venue to another to post them.

Our children and grandchildren are going to pay heavily for the lack of concerted action around this issue. It has been known since the 1970's that our emissions-generating activities are changing the chemistry of our atmospheric, marine and terrestrial ecosystems and that some of these changes may well end up being irreversible. I always assumed that once people understood what was happening they would get together for the sake of those coming up behind us and do whatever it takes to preserve life as we have known it here.

I can't believe how wrong I was about this. As someone commented earlier this evening it will apparently take a disaster of overwhelming proportions and a great deal of suffering to wake most people up. I'm afraid she is right.

Although this article obviously seems like media propaganda one still cannot deny the fact that since humans have been obsessed by a consumption based economy and lifestyle we have depleted more resources, habitat, trees, old growth forests than our ancestors before us. People are always discussing global warming but few people see an underlying and unarguably TRUE statement that we are depleting and paving over the earths most beautiful places much faster than they can be replaced. With an exponential growth population, soon we will find that the food/resources in the petri-dish will only support 2x our population, but by that time it will be too late.

hmmm..... No conflict of interest here. A government report that suggests more government intervention.

Global Warming = Y2K

yes yes...higher CO2 levels will cause an increase in mosquitos. are you kidding me? any fifth grader can tell you that insects are limited in growth and life by the amount of oxygen in the air. This global warming crap is all just propaganda in an attempt to pass a carbon tax so big government can waste even more of our money. has anyone stopped to wonder why every other planet in our solar system is getting hotter? gee...maybe it's because the sun is entering the hot phase of its normal cycle. or *maybe* it's because little green men are driving gas guzzling suv's on other planets, causing global warming like we're doing here. HA! the sad part is that the majority of the american public is going to believe this crap and ask for the extra taxes and government intervention

This is the most ridiculous "news" story I've had the mispleasure to read. For the reporter to make the sweeping statement that "global warming" (a misnomer to begin with) is caused by carbon dioxide and then attribute every disaster from the Great Flood, to the bubonic plague is patently ridiculous. Since when do "governement studies" have any credibility at all?

To all you libs and bleeding hearts. Here is a DOSE of Reality.

Q1. How old is the Earth?
A1. She is about 4.5 Billion years old (that's the same 'B' as in bailout and BILLION)

Q2. The data shows that the earth has warmed a bit since the industrial revolution
A2. On the scale of the earth being 4.5 BILLION years old, it is not likley that we have affected ANYTHING with the ecosystem of this old planet.

Liberals usually cannot process technical things because its all based on the "touchy, feelie" mentality. So, what you fools are telling us, is that in less than 60 years, WE have been able to AFFECT a planets Environmental behavior with a history spanning 4.5 billion years.

Its time to put away these foolish notions and wake up to the fact that THIS is nothing more than another attempt at power grabbing. Plain and simple, so for you duds who subscribe to this nonsense of global warming, it really shows a lack of education on your part and ignorance of just what lies under foot.

Go see what the temps were like in the Jurassic period....SURPRISE!!!!

And to think there are so many gullible humans...this is really sad y'all, really sad.

Wow. It is rocket science. The thing called global warming has convinced real scientists over the last several decades. What is it about the wilfully ignorant, that they find denial so comforting.

Interesting bunch of comments. Why is everyone so intent in believing that this research is some self serving piece of propaganda? Climate change is clearly happening; now whether it is Global Warming, Global Cooling or Global bull crap is irrelevant.

The point is that no one really knows what's going on with Mother Gaia and the only thing we can do is go with what makes sense: Save resources, stop unnecessary CO2 generation and overall be better citizens. That's the bottom line.
Whether the research is correct or incorrect is not something I care to find out; the climate changes are having serious political, environmental and economical impacts and we are responsible for slowing it down as much as we can., with however little information we really have.

This is quite stunning, really. I don't mean the article -- nothing much new there. I mean the hysterical gibbering of these hoodwinked masses screeching that global temperatures are dropping and that scientists across the globe are being bribed by Al Gore to fabricate data on a worldwide scale. They really think there's a conspiracy to make up data about temperature? Something anyone can measure? Are Americans not only this ignorant, but also that dumb?

LOL people really are that stupid and this article proves it. Basic science sais one thing HEAT RISES. yep its true and what takes it place cold air wow how bout that. See its the upper atmospheres that are warming which will lead to long term problems but i dont expect any of you ignorant retards to figure that out cause you expect global warming to raise the temperature in your useless neighborhood wake up!!!!!!!! HEAT RISES FORCING COLDER AIR DOWN its basic science get with the program. Global warming is real and the upper atmospheres are getting warmer cold air comes down gets heated and the cycle continues until the atmosphere is ruined and were all boned. but hey ignorance is bliss so continue burning fossil fuels like cavemen.

Fact 1: Ok. Cars burn stuff, right? That burnt stuff (gas)goes up in the air. The Earth probably doesn't like that. (Not to mention all the smoke stacks, company waste in rivers, etc., etc.)
Fact 2: The whole Earth's ecosystem and every system is all interconnected. One thing affects another. For every action there is an opposite reaction type-$hit.
You like doritos but they make you fat. Sucks for you.
Fact 3: There is no hoax! You all think you have a brain, that's a hoax. Look at the world on google earth or something similar. The whole world seems to be covered by cities. Like a concrete colored cancer. Where are the plague fleas?

Maybe the droughts and floods will kill the mosquitos.

During the last Ice Age a layer of ice 1700 feet thick (nearly as thick as Ed Markey's skull) covered Massachusetts. Unfortunately, in those days Al Gore wasn't around to set us straight (from his palatial mansion) on this and other things. If he had been, he could become part of a medial moraine and saved us the horror of having nearly been elected President of the United States.

you complain about warming and that we need to do some changes.Well you have people saying yes change but not in my back door. Take wind farms. We have lots of wind but you have people yelling not in my back door its ugly, We have to save the birds they fly into them so take them down. now for cars everyone of us would love to drive a electric car save gas but when they cost so much and people don't have jobs no one will buy them they don't have the money too buy them. If the car dealers brought them down to under 10,000 i am sure you would see a lot more on the road and in the long run would make the car company's money, but they don't want to do that. So go ahead and complain.until profits come out of the picture

The level of ignorance expressed in the overwhelming majority of these comments is a terrible indictment of the US education system. The evidence is overwhelmingly clear, the arguments against are about as scientific as saying "the earth can't be spinning, 'cos we'd all get dizzy!" Why do you think that every government in the world (yes, every government, of all political colours) is convinced of the reality of human caused climate change?
Follow the money. Almost nobody has a vested short term interest in promoting the fact that the climate is changing. There are huge financial interests involved in carbon dioxide producing industries that are spending large sums of money propping up denier organisations and websites. Many of these organisations used to make their livings being paid to spew out nonsense about the harmlessness of smoking, or the uncertainty of the evidence for its danger. Today they are using exactly the same tactics to confuse people, and for the same reasons. Most of them are being paid.
The house is burning down, are we going to just sit around it warming our hands?

So many things like these are thought about (by many in the media) as if they are a one-time occurence...a general observation that, because of some results can be shown in a certain light. Within statistics and data study, the trickery is as old as the study itself. Declines in budget spending increases mean budget cuts, CAFE standards studies that do not look at the numbers of new drivers (trust me, insurance companies know) and are inherently 'bad' because promoting higher mpg means burning less fuel, which means collecting less tax revenue. Sure, if there won't be 32-44 million additional drivers in the market by then...Pure B.S.
So. Our entire 'weather system' ALL of the gases in the atmosphere above the US are exchanged roughly from west to east, how many times per week/month/year/decade??? But global whatever is already here, in the US? When St. Helens erupted, there was ash in NY 5 days later...ASH!!! There is still radioactivity in upstate NY from atomic trials from NM in the 50's. What happens in Vegas (in the atmosphere) DOES NOT stay in Vegas, or in the US for very long.

As Americans, many of us make excellent customers for the sales of these types of things...in every walk of life, and at the end of the day, we have no one to blame but ourselves for losing focus about what's truly important. We elected this guy and this admin, and countless csars and whatever else. We are getting what we have earned.

Global warming is a hoax. Look: I'm a PhD'd climatologist/meteorologist/earth scientist/very-smart-person who knows a lot more about stuff than you and can use scientific terms and numbers that you are unlikely to check or be able to get to the bottom of or falsify without weeks of obsessive reading (and who moreover has tons of time to think about politics). Trust me, the whole thing is a lie cooked up to cheat you out of your money by Al Gore and 90+% of climate scientists, who are in a big conspiracy with the liberals to get at your wallet. You know just like those "holocaust industry" folks with their made up stories of concentration camps so they could profit off movies like Schindler's list? And those other people who claim man actually walked on the moon, when the whole thing was actually shot on a soundstage. Or those who expect you to believe that dinosaurs ever existed, when they weren't really there. Or the whole nuclear winter charade--I'm telling you we should have just bombed the Russians off the map back when Reagan was in charge.

What I want to know is, have you ever really looked into the matter yourself??? Well I have, and here is a list of scientific mumbojumbo you just can't rebut. And you don't have to look any further than the mild summer we are having now (never mind that it's still spring) to realize that obviously this is a crock. The earth is not warming, it's cooling. Why just this afternoon I went outside in a t-shirt and actually felt a bit of a chill. It was definitely cooler than yesterday. Also even if the earth IS warming, that's because of sunspot activity not CO2. Plus Mars is warming too. I don't believe we can get accurate temperature measurements on earth, but obviously the ones from outer space are true, and relevant too. Don't tell me you can prove otherwise because you definitely can't, and I have 562 other objections. Besides, global warming is good (who cares about Manhattan anyway? or London? or drinking water for Asia) And this is all politically motivated: notice how many politicians have ROCKETED to the fore because of their support of tough CO2 reduction measures. Did I mention Al Gore is a doofus? And who are WE to think that we can change this planet? What kind of arrogance is that??? I am SO confident that my analysis is better than that of the vast majority of climate scientists (so called experts who are actually fools, don't you know, while the smart people like me spend hours on internet message boards sparring with knownothings) that I'm completely willing to risk the futures of all your descendants to prove it.

I find it amusing (in a troubling way) that skeptics are so eager to dismiss the science and articles that support global warming as "biased" and "self serving," and yet so absolutely stand by the science and articles that criticize it. Apparently it's "fact" if it supports what you believe, and "propaganda" if it isn't.

Also - why do skeptics constantly bring up Al Gore? He didn't invent the concept of Global Warming, and he isn't the creator of the green movement. Just because he may be the reason *you* know about it, doesn't mean he's the only person to have ever thought about it. In fact, it goes back to 1824 when Joseph Fourier discovered the Greenhouse Effect. Then in 1895, Swedish chemist Svante Arrhenius discovered that humans could affect it by creating CO2.

Lastly, this idea that scientists are making it all up to get rich from funding is laughable. What "rich scientists" do you know?

Well, seems we have a bunch of climatologists posting hear? You people are fools. Instead of blabbing on like a bunch of blithering idiots, do some research. Stop going outside and saying...it's cold out! There's no global warming! Or, prove to me man is responsible! If any one of you crackpots had any scientific knowledge you would know that the affect of "GLOBAL WARMING" is rapid and extreme CHANGES in weather. Yes, that means there will be places that get colder than usual... and there will be places Hotter than usual! The point is some places will experience extreme hot dry seasons (like Atlanta) and turn into deserts and other places will experience extreme cold wet weather! Someday Vermont will be a rainforest. But you idiots are to busy bashing experts who know a hell of a lot more than you! Hmm! Lets see... who's opinion would I trust more... Nobel prize winning scientists or, you guys? Hmm? Tough one! Not! Oh, but let's not stop there! Lets see... hmm, If we listen to the nobel prize winning scientists and they are wrong, the worst thing that happens is we stop polluting! And, we discover new ways to create clean energy so we don't send our money over to the middle east to make them more super rich! And if we listen to you guys... and you are wrong? A lot of people become homeless and starve and die from the worst ecological disaster in mankind's history! Wow, this choice is getting real tough now! So please, either do some research or, stick to posts where you can actually discuss something you know about .

Why do the deniers take the word of our scientists in almost every field of endeaver EXCEPT when it comes to climate science? The prudent course of action is to listen to the best science available and try to react in a responsible manner for the sake of our children and their children. ....and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand that.

I started studying our environment in 1973 and from what I am reading you posters are just a bunch of uninformed government haters who think you can blow this all off with your self centering comments. I do see a few posts as to limiting population (the only solution ever) and doing whatever you can to help the environment whether it does help or not. If you do not at least make some effort the inevitable will occur and you will only be able to blame the government as you mostly think getting on Al Gores case or anyone similar to his agenda is the problem. Check with the first people (Native Americans) who live in the northern climate and then you will actually and really know what is going on. Get Real!!

Al Gore couldn't buy a job, argue a job or find a job, so he created a job and the Fed is paying him so they can confiscate more taxpayer money for their own purposes. What will they come up with next ? Of course it will be an emergency that can not wait while we read the fine print. Methinks these crazies want us to fire them so they can stay home and draw their huge golden parachutes.

Since the beginning of time the earth has gone through periods of warming and cooling and will continue to do so. Physics also applies here in that no matter what we throw at the earth it will strive to reach an equilibrium over time.

My guess is 10, 20 or maybe 30 years from now the tune is going to change when they figure out 99% of this was due to the natural rhythms of the planet.

All the carbon and oxygen that makes up CO2 has been here all along, some space ship didn't secretly dump extra on us 10 years ago.

A couple of comments above are correct in that the more CO2 in the atmosphere combined with slightly higher temperatures the faster plants will soak it up and convert it back to solid carbon and oxygen gas.

Of course lately we've been intentionally raising plants to make ethanol which turn into CO2 when it's burned anyway.

There are those who deny the reality of human contribution to global climate change and its effects citing a few scholarly studies and often falsely stating thousands of political opinions and beliefs based only on hearsay as if they were fact based on documented observation of physical evidence. How much of science do they want to deny? The science that brings them their
internet, television, food, automobiles, antibiotics, pain killers and clean water - of course not. These are things they need and want and understand. And oil and coal, well - these people speak as if they think we will just never run out of it and can keep burning it indefinately. But, global climate change - now thats a whole different thing. Science is totally wrong about this. Scientists just contrive this to make money for more studies. WRONG, FOOLS. Scientists will get paid to do research whether global climate change is anthropogenic or not. Climate change is only one aspect of science. One or even several thousand people sitting at their computers typing out opinions cannot possibly know or even understand what thousands of others know by their practice of observing natural events and reading scientific instruments from thousands of places on this planet and collaborating about their observations taken and recorded over the past 50 years.

Poster 1180 has it exactly right; there sure are a ton of ditto-heads posting tonight. Actually probably only 2 or 3, but they do have a way with the self-righteous bull. Rant on, right wingers!

Christ, I wish stupidity was painful. I am not going to argue with any of you morons about the validity of global warming. There is a direct link between those who STILL believe in Space-Daddy and Zombie-Jesus and those who do not believe in Global warming. And then, they complain about the methodology of THE SCIENCE! As if they had read a single study in their life! For them, science is a bad word, and Fox News is the only reliable source of all information. But, you are PROUD of your ignorance, and I certainly am not going to waste any time trying to lighten up that three watt bulb you got in the noggin.
I will, however, address one small thing that even your 6th grade educated minds can grasp (I think, it does require some simple multiplication and division). China produces slightly more carbon emissions than the US. However, they have SIX times the population we do. The only rational way to look at this is per capita, and per capita they produce about 1/5th of the pollution we make. ONE FIFTH! So build a bridge, and get over it. We are the biggest problem. And we can rescue our economy by figuring out how to fix it and then selling it to them. You are too busy at the church bake sale to raise money for their latest legal defense fund to participate in finding solutions, though. Why don't you just let the adults handle it then?

It is vert encouraging to see how many people remain skeptical about this issue. I myself did a 180 recently, coming to realize that is is a scam. I used to read Scientific American. I had it delivered. But each month the cover story was always some highly speculative BS about what life will be like once AGW destroys everything. Pictures of the earth crying or burning or sweating. That is not science. Speculation is only one of the earliest stages of the scientific method - not the end means. So I cancelled.

this is pathetic. it's like most people have never been to a basic science class.

listen, a couple of degrees might not sound like a lot, but its the MARGINAL change in climate that wreaks the worst effects. a change in degrees means you can't farm where you once could; maybe you can't live -- hello eastern seaboard -- where you used to. and just because this summer is "late" doesn't disprove global warming. you need to look at the BIG PICTURE, at OTHER NATIONS in the world, where we are seeing climate change refugees as we speak (both the governments of new zealand and australia accept thousands of pacific islanders as refugees whose existence has been made impossible in their native country due to the effects of climate change).

the earth will do just fine, warm or cold. its human existence that is at stake.

OK, its a consensus, you can't tell me whats up...I want to be unique. Be like me.......Buy new vehicles with low mpg ratings, smoke cigars indoors, leave your incandescent lights on all the time, buy over packaged goods, don't recycle anything, buy more throwaway junk from China, throw some litter out your car window, don't pay any attention to melting glaciers, drought, climate shift, most importantly go for a space ship ride and keep listening to Rush. He gets rich, you get misinformed. Did I mention that its all a conspiracy against freedom and you are trying to take my 2nd amendment rights away? Oh ya, that Darwin was really stupid for even bringing up the idea of evolution. Did I mention how cool Rush is?

It is unfortunate that at this late date the politions still don't get it. A series of hearings again. By now you'd think they'd heard enough. We need action, not words. We're talking about a United States that is uninhabitable. Where are 450 million people going to go?

Personally, I'm becoming more and more concerned that multidecadal global cooling may begin shortly, if it hasn't started already. This is based on a combo of a very quiet sun (sunspot activity and solar flux have been exceptionally low recently vs. long term averages), normal multi-decadal cycles such as the AMO (temp. of N. Atlantic has recently been cooling after being overall VERY warm 1995-2008...quite possibly the warmest overall period since at least the 1850's), and, possibly, recent increased volcanic activity.

You guys won't accept a single fact ever if it means some sort of collective action is required. Heads in sand is not a good look.