Is it wrong, or is it just marketing?
Fresh Pond asked me:
Rona,... is it allowed and/or ethical for a broker to list a house at, say, $100. Then, after it doesn't sell, drop the price to $80 and mention in the comments that parking is available for purchase separately at $20.
It gives the appearance that the home price fell 20% despite staying the same. And is, in my opinion, misleading at best.
What are your thoughts?
Brokers can change the asking price of a house any time to any number, if the seller directs them to do so. That’s the general rule: brokers must follow lawful instruction. If the marketing gets the seller better price and terms, the broker is doing his/her job. Marketing cannot hide a problem or misrepresent a property. It also cannot be intentionally deceptive. The question on the table is, “Is a fake price drop ethical?” Are these examples intentionally deceptive?
Your example I’m calling Tactic A. Here are some more tactics I see every year:
Tactic B: raising the price due to improvements needed to sell a house.
A property is on the market for a while with no bites. The seller takes it off MLS. He pays to polish the floors and paint the walls. Then he re-lists it for an additional cost that is twice the cost of the spruce-up. Still no bites. Then there is a price reduction back to the original asking price. “Clean and bright! Price reduced!” Has the price really been reduced?
Another example: a house goes under agreement, but has a dying water heater, as well as being an "tired" and unpleasant house. The buyer walks away because the seller is not willing to make any accommodation for the problems. The seller then replaces the water heater refinishes the floors and puts in brighter light bulbs. He raises the asking price by twice the cost of the work he just did. The next ad says something like, “Back on the market! New water heater and other improvements.” Should the next buyer be paying for these changes?
Tactic C: increasing the cost of extras
A new condo complex has 20 units and 35 parking spaces. Each one has one space that comes with the unit. The early buyers can purchase a second spot for $10, but the later buyers have to pay $20, as the supply of extra spots dwindles. Is this a hidden price increase?
Another example: This is the most common game I see: the age-old ploy of excluding the washer, dryer and refrigerator just to attempt to negotiate them back in for $3000.
I look out for these kinds of things for my buyers. If you don’t have a good buyer’s agent, you need to keep track of properties carefully to avoid falling for these tricks.
So, my opinion is that this is marketing nonsense. You need to look out for it. It's not unethical, but is rather used-car-salesman-like.
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Who cares if its ethical. If the price is right for the location of the property and the condition of the home, and if you want it, then buy it. If not, then dont buy it.
I agree, Middle.
Don't pay any attention to the price... EVER.
Offer only what you are willing to pay (or below).
What middle said, basically. I don't see any problem with those things per se - its about final value. If you are just looking at a "price decrease" by itself, you don't have anywhere near enough information.
I agree with the other posters. The seller isn't compelling the buyer to pay $X, nor is there any misrepresentation. Smart buyers monitor the entire market and make an informed decision as to what a home is worth. Whether a specific home has been reduced or charges extra for parking says nothing about whether the current asking price is a fair one.
While I know it is not illegal and I am sure any intellegent buyer can see right through those things, I can't help but think "do I really want to do business with people who act like this?"
When I see stuff like that I think that these are kind of sleazy people, even though it is very transparent. I would really have to be in love with that house, but having it be over priced or the impression that the people are making poorly veiled attempts to be sneaky would really just make me move on to another property.
If a house is priced right then no other backdoor tactics would be needed.
Then again, there are lots of easily swayed people out there who can some how afford a house so I can't blame the sellers/ agents for trying. Rember the pet rock?
4: there is a misrepresentation insofar as keeping the same listing implies it's the same thing. It's like pouring out half of a box of cereal, dropping the price 25%, and putting a "Price Reduced!" sticker on it. The packaging may be updated with an accurate measure of what's inside, but it's still deceptive, even if you'd have to be an idiot to fall for it.
Rona, I'd add one to your list: the common tactic of canceling an MLS listing on a house only to put up a new one in its place. In my humble opinion, the MLS ought to have transparency about previous listings of the same property.
Hi Dan T,
When a listing is cancelled, the days on the market transfers to the new listing, unless it is off the market for 90 days. If the new listing starts on the 91st day, the clock is set back at 0. The MLS now adds the old listing days to the new listing, unless that sales gap exists. This is a step in the right direction.
I love when I see a sheet that says "NEW" "Won't last" with a days on the market of 192.
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