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Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:05AM
Hey, sorry for the short delay. The bosses called just before I got on, but I'm ready for you now
CJ4574
11:05AM
Hey Gordon, with all these trade rumors invovling Carlos Beltran, do you think he'll actually end up in a Red Sox uniform or a Yankee's?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:07AM
Well, I got an e-mail from Brian Cashman yesterday, saying he hadn't talked to the Yanks about Beltran, and he told the NY Times yesterday that my report that the Yanks were aggressively seeking Beltran were "100 percent false." All I can tell you is that's not what I'm hearing from the other side,. Beltran is clearly one of tyhe big prizes on the market, and while the Yanks' more pressing need may be pitching (more)
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:08AM
with Bernie Williams nearly at the end and Lofton a stopgap, obviously Beltran will be very attractive to the Bombers. He will be to the Sox, too, not to mention Seattle and L.A., among others
nathan8
11:08AM
Hi Gordon- Two names that keep coming up are Carlos Beltran and Randy Johnson. Do you think the Red Sox are interested in making a run for either one of them? If so, what would the cost be?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:11AM
RJ has veto power over any trade, as a 10-5 guy. He is telling people he doesn't want to leave Arizona, though if he gets a shot at another ring, I suspect he might be persuaded to give it a go. Royals GM Allard Baird wants young (read: cheap) major league ready players in return for Beltran; don't see where the Sox match up there. If he gets on the open marketm, that's a different story. As for RJ in Boston, I think the Sox feel they have enough pitching to go deep in October
Sherm Feller
11:11AM
Gordon, how come the Globe didn't have the scoop on Williamson's imminent trip to the DL in today's paper? If you know anything about this, how serious is it? Also, Schilling was on the radio this morning talking about his ankle. Sox seem to be battling a number of problems right now. What's your info. on these matters? Thanks.
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:12AM
Fair question. Sometimes the other guys get something we don't. We hate when that happens, but it's a reality of life on the beat. We scoop them sometimes, they scoop us. I can tell you the club made no mention of it after the game last night; Lucchino was on the radio this morning saying he didn't know anything aboiut it (more)
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:14AM
Williamson apparently mentioned something to Herald reporter Jeff Horrigan last night. Williamson was still in Florida last night, but the Sox have confirmed this morning that Williamson is flying back today for an MRI oin his elbow. Their hope is that it is strictly precautionary and the MRI will come back negative, so until the results are known I can't say that they will put him on the DL. I suspect that Williamson is sufficiently concerned to believe that's where he's headed, but let's await the test result
North of the border
11:15AM
Gordo, What do you think of the Red Sox bench? Or, how do you think the Red Sox feel about it? Crespo offers versatility, Daubach, too, to a degree. McCarty, for defensive purposes. Kapler. But none of these guys are tearing it up offensively. They're not much in terms of late-inning long ball threats. Are the Red Sox actively looking to upgrade?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:18AM
Because these guys are all playing more than they normally would because of injuries, their shortcomings are exposed. It's rare to find bench guys who are going to "tear it up" on a consistent basis. Shoot, the D-Rays can't even find someone to be their DH and hit better than the pitching staffs of seven NL teams, as I mentioned in today's paper.(D-Ray DHs canme into last nihght's game batting .157). Teams try to get by on the cheap with their benches, which is why you don't see good bench guys staying with the same team for more than a year or two; clubs don't want to pay those players what they would get in salary arbitration
K-Dawg
11:18AM
Other than Pokey Reese and maybe Bill Mueller, is there any other Red Sox player who doesn't make you hold your breath when the ball is hit to him ? This team is absolutely horrible defensively. It will certainly be exposed more when they play in bigger ballparks.
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:20AM
Shoot, even Bill Mueller has made seven errors this season, a startling total for him. Again, put Nomar at short, Pokey at second and Trot in right field, and this team is much better defensively than it is playing right now. And as long as we're talking defense, let's give Manny credit for his improvement in left. Last week in Fenway, Manny was out early, practicing his throws. That's the sign o*****uy who knows he can be an MVP and wants the all-around game to prove it
North of the border
11:20AM
The Red Sox bench? Not much sock here, agree? Are the Red Sox actively looking to get some more power for the late innings? Or counting on Ellis Burks' return?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:22AM
NOB, it appears at the moment, anyway, that the Sox are hoping for Burks to come back. There have been a couple of times this season they've thought about bringing up Andy Dominique, who has been tearing up Pawtucket, but Dominique doesn't really have a position; he could only DH. Which makes him like Burks, actually, so if Burks doesn't recover, they may go that route first
BBlair
11:22AM
Gordon, When does John Henry start looking at Theo and wondering how 130 million could buy this AAA lineup.
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:24AM
I think it's more likely, BB, that John Henry starts wondering why some fans can't take a longer view of the current situation and realize that this team, particularly with its pitching, will be playing in October
GoSoxGo
11:24AM
Gordon, are you like me in thinking that all this trade talk about Carlos Beltran is ridiculous? I don't think the Sox have what the Royals are looking for as far as youung, Major League-ready talent, and shouldn't the Sox be scared to death that Beltran, a Scott Boras client, will be unlikely to sign an in-season extention, and will be available to the highest bidder when the season is done? Or does the Sox brass really view this as a "go for broke" type year and would be willing to take their chances?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:26AM
You make good points, GSG. I think any team that tries to strike a deal for Beltran will ask for a 72-hour negotiating window to try and get something done, and the greater point is I don't see how the Sox and Royals match up for Beltran. But don't dismiss Theo's capacity for being creative and talking three-ways, etc. But you've got to think Boras would prefer to take Beltran on the open market after the season
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:27AM
Besides, this is normally way too earlyt for people to be pulling triggers on trades. The Royals may be delusionary, but they're still clinging to some hope that they can get back in it in the weak AL Central. A couple of weeks from now, they may feel differently, but I ndon't think Allard Baird is looking to dump Beltran any time soon. Why would he?
Jesse
11:28AM
When Schilling was brought back to Boston during the off-season, was there thinking in the front office that he would replace Pedro as the club's ace this off-season. Were Theo/Lucchino thinking this far ahead in case they do decide to let Pedro walk?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:30AM
Jesse, their primary interest in gettingf Schilling was because they knew they needed another ace to get them over the hump, But sure, it's also definitely a hedge against Martinez leaving, thiough clearly the Sox would have to get a quality arm to replace him. Take out Pedro, and I don't think yoiu'll see the Sox paying another pitcher any more than they're paying Schilling
JKELLY
11:30AM
How quickly do you thing the Sox can ship Kim, and what are they really expected to get in return? Is this going to take until the deadline to get something done?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:32AM
JKelly, the Sox will have a real hard time moving Kim until he proves to people he can pitch effectively again. And I wonder if the clubs that will be interested in Kim would prefer to use him as a closer. I know of one NL GM that says he's interested, depending on how much of Kim's contract the Sox would be willing to eat
Jesse
11:32AM
I hear the names of the Sox homegrown talent (Shoppach, Youkilis) come up in trade talk recently. I understand the idea of playing this season to win (we were so close last year) and bringing in the necessary veteran talent to do that but when does it become an issue of mortgaging our future for the present? Youkilis and Shoppach (among others) have the potential to become superstars. Doesn't this seem wasteful? Do you see Theo using Youkilis and Shoppach as trade pieces?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:37AM
This is where Theo has to trust his talent evaluators, an d his own judgment. These are the toughest calls a GM has to make, deciding which of his prospects are legitimate, budding stars, and which are more valuable in a deal. The nightmare is Jeff Bagwell for Larry Andersen. The better deals are like the one Theo, as assistant GM, engineered with the Padres for Alan Embree, giving up Brad Baker and Dan Giese. Will we look back at vthe Schilling deal and call it a bad move if Fossum averages 14 wins a year for the next 10 years? Not if the Sox win a ring while Schilling is here. It wouldn't shock me if the Sox decide Youkilis is a valuable piece in a trade. I think Shoppach is someone they would be far less inclined to move...but that's just guesswork on my part. It's a poker game with prospects. Sometimes teams inflate the skills of their prospects to the media, to make them more valuable as trading pieces
FreeDirtDog!!
11:37AM
What is your opinion of the internet "Fan Sites" in attempting to break Sox news?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:40AM
I think, FDD, you have to recognize them for what they are. I know the guy who runs the Dirt Dog site is extremely hard-working and obsessive in the attention he pays to the Red Sox. He has developed some good sources, but the DirtDog site might be more inclined to run some stuff without subjecting it to the kind of sourcing and double-checking that newspapers often require. That said, Boston Dirt Dog has had its share of breaking news that has been right on the money, while traditional media outlets, including the Globe, has been wrong on stuff. (more)
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:42AM
What the Internet sites have done, I think, is ratchet up the urgency with which stories are reported. In this 24-hour news cycle, there's a lot of stuff that is reported that is totally unsubstantiated, yet takes on a life of its own because it's out there
tim
11:42AM
Could Raul Mondesi find a home with the Sox, as a very ample RF? He was also hitting better than the Sox RF platoon to-date, and this was while he was "distracted". I feel the Sox needs more speed in the outfield, and Raul's arm is ridiculous.
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:43AM
Tim, that's a question definitely worth posing to the Sox, and with Mondesi having been released, I suspect either Bob Hohler or myself will be asking Theo that today.
Jesse
11:43AM
I think Derek Lowe will be a lot like Kevin Millwood. Someone will overpay for him (hopefully not the Sox) and he won't live up to the deal. What are your thoughts about Lowe? I think there are better, cheaper players on the market that could easily step in to replace him in the rotation (Matt Morris, Freddy Garcia to name a couple).
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:45AM
Jesse, I think you've stated the Red Sox position precisely. They do not want to pay Lowe $11 million or $12 million average annual value, not when they see him more as a No. 3 starter than a front of the rotation ace. That's not to say Peter Angelos, who would love a sinkerballer in Camden Yards, might not see it differently
nomar3079
11:45AM
Gordon- Do you put any weight behind the report on bostondirtdogs.com that claimed Nomar had a tear in the sheath of his achilles?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:48AM
I think the DD report highlighted the greater issue, that an injury initially described as one that would sideline Nomar for a few days has grown into a 2-month-and-longer ordeal. Dr. Morgan insists the sheath itself is not torn, but it is clear that no one anticipated it would take this long for the fluid to disappear and the inflammation to subside. But I think it has been said repeatedly that Achilles injuries can take a maddeningly long time to recover from. Mark Grudzielanek and Mark Prior of the Cubs also are still MIA with Achilles pro blems.
hognuts
11:49AM
Gordon, I really think that D-Lowe is expendable. He's overrated and hasn't got his stuff together. Seeing as Nomar's mysterious injury isn't healing, we need a bat. That's why I think getting Beltran, even if it is for just for the rest of this year, is important. I'd be willing to part with D-Lowe and Kim for an offensive upgrade like Beltran. How else can we make up for Nomar's lost offense while he's out?? Also, why can't Tito just get Youk in the games. Easy solution...Bellhorn ain't good. Put Mueller at 2nd and Youk at 3rd...problem solved!!Your thoughts??
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:50AM
Lowe is making too much dough for the Royals to have interest, and the Sox aren't going to give up a frontline starter when they;re trying to win it all this season. Your Youkilis/Mueller scenario has merit, though I think the Sox would have some concerns about exposing Mueller's knee to the kind of beating it would take at second base, turning DPs, etc
daves
11:51AM
How real are the trade talks of Kim, Damon, Beltran et al? "If" Nomar does not come back from his injury will the Sox look for a utility guy like Ricky Guitierez?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:51AM
Peter Gammons has floated the Ricky Gutierrez thing; I haven't heard that one
magicul
11:52AM
Hi Gordon, What are the odds of the Red Sox looking at Carl Pavano to come in and replace Derek Lowe after the season. He looks as if he is starting to come into his own, and would be much cheaper. thanks
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:53AM
Jack Mckeon told me Pavano was the Marlins' best pitcher in camp this spring. That's saying a lot on that staff. Why wouldn't the Sox look at Pavano? Wouldn't that be coming full circle?
Big Dog
11:53AM
Gordo, I think it's Day 75 since Nomar's mystery fielding foul ball off the back heel (kind of tough if you're facing the batter) that no one saw before either the B.C. or the Yankees game, who will be back first? Nomar, Nixon, or Mo Vaughn?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:55AM
Leave it to the Dog to check in himself. I'm not as skeptical as you are, Dog, that a traumatic event occurred, but I think Mr. Morgan would also tell you that in any instance of Achilles tendinits, overuse also becomes an issue.
buckethead's white h...
11:55AM
Gordon - Have you seen "Still we believe" yet? Is it worth seeing or will I want to rip my eyeballs out?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:56AM
I ahven't seen it yet. I did see Spellbound, though, which was the same producer, and I thought that was great
Jeter's Slump
11:56AM
Hey Gordon, what is the deal with Williamson's elbow? Do you think he will be DL-ed? I'm worried because he is such a key cog in the pen. Also, is the Globe going to put up any coverage of the Amateur draft, coming up in early June?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
11:58AM
Williamson, if you missed it earlier, is coming back to Boston today for an MRI on his elbow. The Sox think the test is precautionary, but it's a given that Williamson will miss the next few days, and the DL is possibility. The Globe covers the draft every June; this shouldn't be an exception. The Sox don't pick until No 65 overall
Bill Simmons
11:58AM
Gordon, do you think this whole notion that "Kim can't handle the pressure of Boston" is vastly overblown? When he was a teenager, he pitched well in the Asian games, avoiding a 3-year stint with the military. He also pitched well for the Sox last year, with the exception of a few games. Why has it now become gospel that the 'pressure' of the city is what is getting to him?
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
12:01PM
On the face of it, BS, you would think that Kim has been through enough in his career to handle anything. The fact he bounced back from the 2001 Series debacle and pitched as well as he did in '02 for Arizona would also support that position. I think there are two primary issues with Kim: one, that his velocity is way off, for whatever reason--and he insists he's not hurt, and two, that he has alienated himself from a clubhouse that in many precincts perceives him as immature, stubborn and selfish, in great part for his refusal to alter his workout routine, which involves constant throwing. i think the "pressure of the boston market" lags far behind those two reasons
Gordon Edes (Moderator)
12:02PM
All right, people, go back to work, go out to lunch, enjoy what I hear is a beautiful day back home. thanks, all, for your interest, and drop a line to the 'Bag
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