boston.com Sports Sportsin partnership with NESN your connection to The Boston Globe

Red Sox chat transcript -- the Globe's Gordon Edes

Oct. 26, 2005
BostonDotCom:Welcome everyone! Gordon will be with us very shortly ...
Gordon_Edes:Is it over yet?....
Gordon_Edes:My friend, Bruce Bosley, the SID at the University Of Vermont, would like all of you to know that Geoff Blum, World Series hero, was the starting shortstop for the Vermont Expos, the year before another World Series hero, Orlando Cabrera, played for Vermont....
Gordon_Edes:If the trend continues, pick the Washington Nationals to play in the World Series next season. Their shortstop, Jamie Carroll, also played for the Vermont Expos. Hey, yiou can't get info like this anywhere else...
Gordon_Edes:My best story from last night? A friend of mine in California was watching the game, then left after Crede's home run in the fith because she had tickets to a McCoy Tyner concert. She got back from the concert, and the game was still on!!!....
Gordon_Edes:And if you see a few typos this morning, you have to forgive me--I'm typing with my nose....
Gordon_Edes:All right, this is supposed to be a chat, not a monologue, so hi everybody, thanks for being here, and fire away
mscully2213:Q: Hi Gordon, Any news on Theo? I'm sure you'll agree that the Sox must do whatever is necessary to ensure he returns as GM. Yes?
Gordon_Edes:Mscully...if I'm reading your screen name right, Sox Nation, West Coast chapter, is checking in. Always good to hear from you. I'm guessing your question is rhetorical in nature; either that, or you didn't see the paper this morning (MORE)....
Gordon_Edes:I can't tell you much more than what was in the paper, seeing how I just got up a bit ago, but I can tell you that the Sox are not prepared to do whatever it takes to keep Theo, or it would have been done by now. As things stand this a.m., they have not done the things Theo wants done to remain as GM, and we'll know in the next 24 to 48 hours how this winds up, whether he stays or goes
bigpoppi:Q: Good Morning Mr. Edes: How big of a philosophy gap is there between Lucchino and Epstein? Would losing Theo be a huge loss to the organization?
Gordon_Edes:bigpoppi, your politeness is off the charts. I've been trying all season to get my junior colleague, Chris Snow, to show the same respect, but to no avail. I'm not so sure, big poppi, that it's a difference in philosophy as much as it is a personality style. Larry Lucchino, by most accounts, can be a very tough character to work for, and while Theo embraces the notion that he should report to a CEO, the way he and his staff are treated by that CEO is a factor. If there is a perception, for example, of a lack of respect, that's a big problem ...
Gordon_Edes:Yes, I think losing Theo would be a big loss. My solution? Hire Gammons!
Joe_2:Q: How likely is it that we will see Theo back and Luccino gone?
Gordon_Edes:Zero. JWH isn't going to fire Larry Lucchino, and Larry sure as heck isn't going to resign. It was just a couple of years ago that John gave Larry a contract extension of at least seven years, and by any barometer you choose, the Red Sox have been wildly successful, both on the field and off, filling the house every night, generating new revenue streams, expanding the label to unimagined levels. Lucchino is clearly exceptional, but the environment is such, judging by the Epstein negotiations, that people want to be paid to put up with some of the stuff they put up with.
BigYazBread:Q: Do you think John Henry get involved and give Theo the contract and control he wants?
Gordon_Edes:That's the, what, $5 million question, BigYazBread....My colleague Sean McAdam of the Providence Journal writes that Henry has remained on the sidelines completely so far...I would think, just as with the failed A-Rod negotiations, that Henry gets involved shortly. He and Epstein are very fond of each other, and i think JWH would be deeply hurt if Theo doesn't stay. That's why, in the end, you have to think this thing gets done
bosoxurtheonly:Q: Hey Gordon, I recognize the Red Sox and Theo want to keep negotiations confidential, but I was wondering will the fact that a deal hasn't been done to this point have a residual affect on the offseason deals, acquisitions, etc. for whoever is the GM?
Gordon_Edes:Only, do you log on that way every time you jump on line? Mercy, and I thought I was long-winded! There's still a window here where it won't have an effect on what follows, unless, of course, Theo and the Sox part ways. Then I think it could definitely have an impact, depending on how long it takes for the Sox to find a successor Wouldn't it be something if Larry reaches out to another former Theo mentor, Kevin Towers, who worked for Larry in SD. (MORE)....
Gordon_Edes:Lucchino would have loved to have hired Towers three years ago, but at the time there's no way the Padres would have allowed Towers to leave. Things, obviously, have changed
megbu36:Q: Will Brynes wait for Theo to decide what to do before he looks more into the Arizona job?
Gordon_Edes:I don't think so, 36....I think Josh believes he might be in the driver's seat in Arizona and will take that job if offered.
bb:Q: Hi, Gordon. Is it plausible to think that Cashman is delaying his negotiations to help Theo, as a NY paper suggests?
Gordon_Edes:naaah, bb, I don't buy that for a minute. I didn't see the NY report, but while Cashman and Theo are friends and have the highest respect for each other, they're not going to link arms in something like this. No way, IMO
petey:Q: Do you think Theo should be paid "Billy Beane" money?
Gordon_Edes:petey, i don't think that's the issue. I think the issue is, once you've offered that kind of money to Beane, what constitutes a fair offer to Theo? Somehow, offering him one fifth of what you were willing to pay Beane doesn't strike me as sending the right signal to the man who brought you a World Series title
LeftOut:Q: Gordon: Love your work. Lucchino strikes me as a loose cannon that says more than he should, where Theo seems to be more in the Bill Belichick mode. Development with Manny being a case in point. Is this the root of the conflict?
Gordon_Edes:LeftOut, thanks for the compliment. I don't think Larry's "popping off" is really an issue, though it was a fire that had to be put out during the Manny buisness at the trade deadline. I think Manny's real issue at the time was not with Larry but with Terry Francona; he thought he'd been sold out by the manager, though he also was unhappy that Lucchino's comment seemed to put the onus for the whole problem on him. But I think the root of the issue is more internal, how Lucchino interacts with Theo and the rest of the baseball operations people.
Gordon_Edes:remember, I'm not on the inside, so some of this stuff is obviously speculative and based on pieces of info, not the whole picture, but I'm left with the feeling that the baseball guys feel things are more heavy handed than they need to be. And that perception may have increased during negotiations that have taken a turn toward the acrimonious
britel21:Q: Is there any credence to the theory that Lucchino hired Epstein (a young, unproven GM) because he felt Theo was someone he could manipulate, and now that the Sox have won a WS Lucchino feels that he's created a monster and wants him out?
Gordon_Edes:No, britel21, I think Larry recommended Theo to John because he believed he was young and brilliant and was someone he felt comfortable working with. And I don't think Larry wants Theo out, though he may feel he has to take Theo down a notch or two
jack_s_:Q: Gordon, do you think there's a chance Theo doesn't really want to be Red Sox GM any more? That he's burnt out and ready for a more normal life?
Gordon_Edes:That's a real interesting question, jack. I dont think thats the case -- Theo lives and breathes this stuff. ...
Gordon_Edes:But I do believe there is a price he pays for being GM in his hometown ...
Gordon_Edes:he really does live a fishbowl existence. ...
Gordon_Edes:If you want to call that burnout, so be it ... I think Theo can live with it, but wants to be compensated for his efforts.
Gordon_Edes:I said at the outset of this chat I beleive this siutation will be resolved within the next day or so. Major League Baseball has a rule prohibiting teams from making announcements during the World Series, though I believe that doesnt apply to off days ...
Gordon_Edes:so it's reasonable to expect that an announcement will come Friday ... and possibly sooner if the World Series ends tonight. ...
Gordon_Edes:If I had to guess, I think Theo will stay ...
Gordon_Edes:but I never thought before the last week there was a reasonable chance he could leave. Now obviously there is ...
BostonDotCom:Thanks everyone for stopping by ... and thanks Gordon for chatting ... that's all for today!
Sponsored Links