Manny unloads on Sox again
Manny Ramirez had another phone conversation with Enrique Rojas, a reporter for ESPNDeportes, and took more shots at the Sox in an apparent effort to force a trade.
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez said. "During my years here I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy. I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price and I don't have peace here."
The Sox brass, including ownership, met today to discuss a possible Manny deal. Coming out of that meeting, the belief was that there was only a slim chance of something happening, but they are still talking to clubs, especially the Marlins, so stay tuned.
Update from Gordon Edes at 12:05 a.m.: The Palm Beach Post reported that the Sox had reached a tentative agreement with the Marlins and Pirates in which Manny Ramirez would go to Florida, the Marlins would send OF Jeremy Hermidia to Piitsburgh as part of a multiplayer package, and the Sox would receive OF Jason Bay and LHP Josh Grabow. My sources tell me that is not true, a deal has not been struck, but the sides continue to talk. It may be getting close.



This act is tired. Manny has burned all of his bridges in Boston. Mental peace. Mental midget is more like it.
There is no way Manny said any of that. It's obvious that ESPN did not translate it right because they hate the Red Sox and want us to lose. Nation members know that Manny is a goof ball but we love all of his hijinks and that's really why we go to the games. It's not important if we win, but we like to see the players HAVE FUN and make us laugh. I for one will join in the Fenway boycott and return all of my tickets to the game if they get rid of Manny. He is the heart of Red Sox Nation and you're going to see Fenway Park full of empty seats if he leaves because people will because Marlins Nation members instead!
GOODBYE MANNY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Manny is 100% right. This FO is something, they try to potray him as a bad guy.
You damn right money :
Mental peace has no price and I don't have peace here.
I think we should trade him to the circus at this point....
He's right we don't deserve Manny. We deserve a player with heart and not one who inspite of his great bat is a joke on the field and an embarassment to his manager despite all the times Tito has covered for his BULL SH-T! Send him somewhere and use his 20 million to get some ballplayers with character next year.
I used to be the biggest Manny apologist going. But after his comments the past few days I say good riddance. He needs to learn that the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the one on the back. The Sox have treated him like a king for the past 8 seasons; paying him $160 million and putting up with his embarrassing antics one excruciating episode after another. Manny is ignorant and childish and he needs to go. I say we trade him to the Mets for Trotter...let's get someone in here that actually respects the game, the fans, ownership, his teammates, and the city of Boston.
it's hard to stomach this guy. Can't wait for his career to be over so he can grow a touch of humility. Hey Manny, ask Bonds how well this act works.
For $160,000,000 they've made you into the bad guy? No fan is that hungry or stupid; they'll see right through you no matter where you play. JERK!
Manny certainly has a point. The FO does have a reputation for trashing players in the media. They did it with Nomar, Lowe, Pedro and Damon.
Time to go, Manny. Thanks for the memories. The good ones, anyway. Nobody has been catered to as much as you. But like every spoiled brat who has too much too soon without any discipline along the way, it's never enough.
Wow, it sure sounds like things have passed the breaking point. This has to be awful for team morale. No one player is bigger than the team.
Let me get this straight...The Red Sox don't deserve a player like Manny. A player that goofs off a play in Anaheim and makes look like a joke, a player that showboats a catch for double play in Baltimore, a guy who goes into the scoreboard last year, and makes a cell phone call during the game. Maybe that is the ONLY thing Manny got right. When this team has a young player like Jacoby Ellsbury that is golden glove caliber (more so than Manny), makes running diving catches, and runs every hit ball like a great player, Jacoby IS better than Manny ever thought of being. Manny being Manny is no longer tolerated. Jacoby Ellsbury is a Hall of Famer for sure, and Manny is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the overpaid stars of MLB.
Good for Manny. They don't deserve him. Just think of how dumb the Sox would look now had they been successful in dumping Manny in '03. They would probably still be looking for the first WS! LOL Well Theo is finally about to get what he always wanted from the first day he arrived.... to be rid of the Great Manny Ramirez. What a shame!
Please Theo.....get rid of the whining, crying, baby man. It's time for Manny to be Manny somewhere else. Right now I'd trade him for a ballbag. We have until 4:00 pm tommorrow to excise this team demoralizing growth from the Sox. Our season depends on it. Even though they're not allowed to say anything in public about Manny, most of the Red Sox players are sick of his crap and would love to see him off this team. Youk's comments the other day when asked about Manny were priceless, "We respect his numbers". They don't respect the man....Bye-Bye Manny!
You have got to be kidding me. Here's Manny Being Stupid, again. Or is that revisionist history again for Boston's beleaguered slugger.
Nomar and Pedro were never made out to be bad guys. Rather, they were treated like Gods, yet never were the true forces behind any meaningful success. Manny helped the Sox win two titles, but he must remember he chose to sign the contract to leave beloved Cleveland. He chose to make stupid comments, making the team justifiably angry. And it is Manny who has, for the past two years, been far from the offensive force that deserves $20 million annually.
It's time to go. Lets hope Manny to FLA for Willingham and pitching prospects, then turning those prospects to PITT for Bay. At this stage in his career, Bay is definitely his offensive equal.
If you can't have mental peace making over $20 million a year, and knowing that if you produce you can make that much again next year for playing a kids game, then maybe you should drive a cab or wait on tables in the real world. Oh, that's right, your a hitting savant and you can barely function outside of stadiums where they arrest your ass for hitting old people. My bad.
Send this piece of garbage packing....he is a complete disgrace.
Just like your boyfriends Nomar and Pedro....you'll leave and become an afterthought.
See ya d-bag
Manny's right. They don't deserve him. Just think of how dumb the Sox would look now had they been successful in dumbing him in '03. They might still be looking for their first WS! But of course, Manny is to blame for all the Sox problems. Trade Manny and all problems go away! LOL
CAMERON MAYBIN TO BOSTON!!!! PLEASE
it is time....enough....wish him the same success that Nomar and Pedro have enjoyed since they left....
Pedro wanted 4 years. The Sox offered 3. Turns out the Red Sox front office was right about his shoulder. We had Pedro at this best and I believe he was treated well and respectfully. He got a better deal - good for him. Nomar was hurt and sulked on the bench while Jeter went into the stands head first on a foul ball. Turns out, the trade energized the Sox and Cabrera was a big part of it at SS. Athletes routinely confuse money and respect. Some times we all do, but not at these levels. Manny can hit like few others. He has a gift. He is also a malcontent pain with the emotional constitution of a spoiled brat. I loved watching all three play, but nobody is bigger than the team and since when does deserve have anything to do with it. They pay him $20M per year for his services.
WOW !!! Now i hope they trade him now ! The The Red Sox.s fan's not don't deserve a player like Manny who crys all the time and play's when he feel like it !
I hope Red Sox Nation wake's up and see what manny is " a big cry baby " !
Manny Alves
Red sox does not deserve Manny. I agree with him. They try to paint him as a bad guy.
Theo shook his head and showed faces when Manny dropped the ball and sit on it against Angels. That was obnoxious. Show some respect for what Manny has done to this organization.
I am shaking my head everday thinking about his trades, Lugo, Crisp, Drew, Renteria, Matt Clement, I don't even want to mention all his bullpen trade blunders.
Will he be shaking his head if Lugo(Theo's favourite signing) hits into double play in 9th with 1 out and 2 on base? Will he be shaking his head when Varitek strikes out during critical phases of the game?.
His trade blunders could have cost Red sox so much more if Red sox had not had two guys in the line up. Manny and Ortiz. They make this line up above average.Basically they helped to mask Theo' s signings. This is my strong opinion.
If he had Manny traded in'03, Sox neither would have won world series nor Theo would have had his job till now after all his blunder trades. He should probably thank Manny/Ortiz for saving his tenure in Boston!!!. Seriously, It is really not a stretch to think the way I am thinking.
I think media should also critic Theo for his mistakes, not just Manny. Oh wait, media is going to say his (in)decisions led to 2 World series. Why can't the same media give some love to Manny saying his hitting brought us 2 world series rings. It is unfair.
Manny is an idiot. He doesn't deserve to play for the Red Sox with an attitude like that. 'll play for 1/100th of what Manny makes. Granted, I stink, but at least I would show some love.
"I'm not talking about money"
Sure, right
Its always about the money
Manny, you're my hero. Tell it like it is and expose Theo for the dirtbag he is.
With all the contending teams in MLB trying to positively add to their rosters, the Red Sox are the ONLY team happily looking for a way to hurt themselves.
Red Sox management, with the local sports media gooning for them, have fanned the flames of hate so high, that trading Ramirez will seem like a GOOD thing - instead of the LAST any Sox fan would want.
The irony in this business is so thick you could cut it with a knife, but if Ramirez is dealt tomorrow, come October several things are predictable.
Ramirez will be in the playoffs.
The Red Sox will be watching on TV
Management will have saved a bunch of $$$$.
The Boston sports media will be bad-mouthing someone else.
And the self-righteous noodle-heads of The Nation will be watching football.
He's right...sox know how to leak info to turn public opinoun..but what Manny doesn't get is he's the highest paid cash player in the game and is supposed to be a leader, but he loafs, begs off playing in big games and series...his behavior hurts the team, insults Tito and poisons the clubhouse
Manny is the biggest idiot in baseball and why the Sox have put up with his crap for this long is beyond me. Sure the guy can hit, but all of his antics and disruptions in the clubhouse are not worth what he is able to produce. Get rid of him and take your chances with younger "coachable" talent!
Manny is a nutcase!......I just want him gone.....We fans have all had to endure 8 years of what I call Manny-ANTICS..........enough is enough......What gets me is how he says that the he is tired of the Red Sox.......I mean,theyve paid him 160 mill for 8 years now.......What exactly have they done wrong here?.......This guy needs to be gone......If he hit 100 homers,and drove in 200 runs this year,it wouldn't matter......I wouldn't want him back......He is a negative in the clubhouse,and a distraction......The first year he was here,he said that he made a mistake by agreeing to sign here......Goodbye Manny! go drive other fans,and an organization as you did here.......It won't be long before they too,say "adios to you'!
there is much poison in that statement. the redsox treated pedro like a king. he took advantage of it to become a whiny baby. He was always treated with respect by the organization that paid him handsomely. the sox likewise treated nomar like the elite player he was for the short time he was an elite player. he was well compensated for it and he did turn down 15 mil over 4 years and that was HIS business decision. oh well. and then he whined. manny got a contract and has been paid HOF dollars for HOF numbers. He was treated really well and his antics were loathed but tolerated as long as his OBPS was 1.000 or above but he is not the player he was. he may yet put up some nice numbers but age is against it. so he loafs, whines and complains and disrepects his teammates and the game when he doesnt hustle or stands with a bat on his shoulders against the damnyankees. he should go and the sox should continue with their rebuilding scheme and get younger or become the damnyankees themselves. matt holiday would replace manny nicely.
there will not be another manny for awhile and the curse would not have been busted without him and for that THANK YOU!!! but the game is a business and the sox are a business and you have been giving the sox the business over the last month and its time to move on and hopefully you will depart with class.
Wake up, Manny! It's your actions that are turning the fans against you. Too bad you are too spoiled and not bright enough to notice!
This guy is not as dumb as you think. He's trying to not get his option picked up so he can hit a pay day. Let the year play out and then pick up the 1 year option. Anything else and you let him win.
"Mental peace has no price and I don't have peace here"? So hang them up, retire, and have your mental peace. I've been a huge Manny fan his entire Red Sox tenure and thought most of the Manny being Manny stuff was overhyped by the media. That said, to say the Red Sox don't deserve him after making somewhere around $160 million from them is biting the hand that has feed him and his family for future generations and is one of the most unjustified comments in the history of sports.
I think Pedro got a bit of a bad rap here and he was an easy one to criticize based on preferential treatment, but he was a pleasure to watch and in his prime, no doubt the best I'll ever see. I never pictured him as "the bad guy", just played by different rules which sorry to say, happens when you are that good.
Sorry Manny, it's time to go. If you're that unhappy, hang them up and go without the paycheck. Nobody is forcing you to play. Better yet, go volunteer or work a 12 hour day getting you hands dirty with something other than dust from a well manicured playing field.
Manny does the same thing every year.Maybe Manny does not deserve the Red Sox
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez said. "During my years here I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy. I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price and I don't have peace here."
Manny is so right and the media has fallen right into the upper brass' hands in this matter.
Ok thats it. I am now officially tired of Manny. He needs to go. They will not renew his contract anyway so get something for him.
Maybe if he stopped pushing people twice his age over, ran to first base when he hits the ball, didn't stand at the plate and look at doubles, played every day and stopped talking like a self - aggrandizing idiot, we would all like him. Even Jerry Remy tonight said that he's "all Manny'd out."
We need to trade for Jason Bay or Matt Holliday asap.... Manny being Manny is not helping his team win games...
Just as Brett Favre's act has gotten old, so too, has Manny's. Let's put an end to it once and for all. Theo should just trade Manny to the Packers for Favre.
Few if any owners or GM's will want to make a 4 year investment with Manny. I think his recent behaviour will harm his chances of signing a deal with another club? People have be known to get by on $20 million a year?
Go Have Peace somewhere else.. Get rid of him once and for all
I don't buy this from a guy who acts like a clown, instead of a leader. In fact, he puts his own interests/desires ahead of the team. I believe that Ramirez is trying to turn the fans against management. The truth is: Boston fans are lucky to have an owner like John Henry. (The same can be said for Mr Kraft.)
Take a hike you big baby!
What Malarkie! Keep him next year because you can, then let him try to get a contract
Yikes... But someone has to be good enough to protect Papi in the batting lineup, or we don't stand a chance against the likely playoff teams. We have the defense, but the Angels pitchers are eating us up. A trade has to be a really smart one. If this happens and the Sox win the Series again, then Theo will be a freakin' legend!
I think Manny is right. Red Sox organization thinks that all players are their slaves. the player should have a right to ask for trade and to be traded to other team.
Its time that Manny leave,The Red Sox will be here long after Manny is gone. Williams Yaz retired Nomar and Pedro were traded or just let walk away and the the team is still here. Manny is one spoiled brat,people have to learn that one or two players are not more important than the team
Manny has asked to be traded every year, and he thinks the Red Sox are trying to paint him as the bad guy. What makes Manny the bad guy is not hustling to first base, shoving Red Sox employees, and getting in fights with team mates. I love Manny being Manny, but this is ridiculus. Manny can be Manny in front of 10,000 fans in Miami. At least he won't have any problem getting tickets from the marlins.
I am so tired of Manny's tirades! The Sox have consistently put up with his behavior and antics over many years now and have done their best, particularly Terry Francona, to deal fairly with Manny. I can't imagine that the Yankees would ever have tolerated him this long. He started this season well, relating to the media and playing hard, but his incident with the traveling secretary and his recent carping about how badly they've treated him have worn me out. He has practically made it mandatory to trade him, but if they can't, how will he act for the remainder of the season? He owes it to the fans and his team-mates to work hard and play hard if he is remains here.
Please, make it stop. This is painful to read.
Enough with the soap opera that IS Manny Ramirez ! It's been a great 8 years, but I am ready to go with an average player that hustles & plays FOR the team over the great player who dogs it and only plays when he feels like it.
And people say Manny is stupid :-) ... I agree with Manny 100%, No mater what happen, NY will never give up Jeter. Nomar was Jeter to Boston, but they got rid of him.. I hope Manny go, where he deserve to be treated well..
ok Manny it's time for you to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You do not deserve to wear a Red Sox uniform at this time. You are a disgrace not only to Red Sox Nation but to MLB!!!!
Good luck to you playing baseball in Iraq! Or maybe dodge ball from the bullets!
Ramirez has no reality concept at this point in time.
$160,000,000 over eight years and he has been mistreated? Ungrateful, spoiled and selfish - ship him to Miami and make sure the door hits his fat a__ on the way out...
Scott Boras must have something to do with this, directly or indirectly. I don't know how true this is, but as I understand, he gets no cut if the Red Sox exercise their 2009 option as the current contract was negotiated by Manny's former agent, Jeff Moorad. Boras stands to gain if Manny's traded and/or becomes a free agent, as he would then make some $$ on the next deal Manny signs. I wonder if there could be any legal ramifications here. Wouldn't this be similar to tampering? I'm sure proving anything would be tough, but this smacks of sleaze.
Manny is oblivious to reality. It is really too bad, but I hope they unload him. His antics, at some times humerous/harmless, are now a serious distraction for this team. The Boston Red Sox---players, management and fans, deserve far better treatment.
Bye, Manny being Manny!
Manchild Ramirez has finally exhausted all of his 8th-grade intellect and horribly absent insight on decent folks like me who just want to see a well-paid player do his job and contribute favorably to his team.
I'm sorry, but this is absurd. I have been decrying this situation long before all my stats-loving friends, who thought that as long as he "puts up the numbers" he is ok.
His production numbers are falling, he is a distraction to his teammates and an insult to sensible people everywhere, and if the Sox ever want to have their own "mental peace" they should banish this fool into another, lower realm where all his fallacious insults are left on less-deserving ears.
And he looks like muppet!
Manny is just getting ridiculous. Every day he exhibits how little class he has. Hopefully tonight is the last time we will have to deal with his nonsense and this huge distraction.
Manny is absolutely correct with this statement. No matter what you think of Manny or his actions, it has been the Sox management that pushed this to the brink. Instead of handling it internally and having a consistent public stance (like some other local teams), the management sends emails to the press and starts a whisper campaign. Who leaked the stories out? It wasn't a player. Just like with Pedro and Nomar, the favorite reporters are given juicy stories to make the star player with a big contract look bad. Then after it all is leaked out, the management issues a gag order? What a joke.
Get ready now, because this will happen again. Wait until Papelbon is up for free agency, or maybe Beckett. They will be the next victims of the front office hit squad.
You know what? To hell with Manny. What an ego on that guy. Sure, he's a good player but there are other players in the league that are just as good, if not better, and they're not mouthing off like this. Ship him outta here.
For once, Manny is right, the Red Sox don't deserve a player like Manny Ramirez, they deserve a lot better. They deserve a player who runs out every ground ball. They deserve a player who does not take days off whenever he feels like it. They deserve a player who consistently gives his all to the team and the game. Maybe there aren't many players in the league left like that, but I know there are several of on the Red Sox, namely David Ortiz, Jacoby Ellsbury, Jason Varitek, Kevin Youkilis, and Dustin Pedroia to name a few. Now some of them may have only one tenth of the natural ability that Manny has, but they give everything they have every night. I'll take one player of average talent who's consistently going to give me everything every night, over ten extremely talented players who are going to try only when he feels like it. It's no coincidence that Manny went on waivers a few years back and nobody claimed him. He is not worth twenty million dollars. It's time to trade him and get something in return, even if it's only a marginally talented player. The Red Sox, don't deserve Manny, they deserve a lot better. Get a player who will give his all every night and let the pieces fall where they may. That's enough for this Red Sox fan.
For a player making 20 million a year, Mannie sure complains a lot. Is he looking for more money from another team, or is he really so unhappy in Boston?
Memo to Red Sox brass. Trade this guy NOW. For anyone....please.
Manny should probably not bring up Normar and Pedro as examples. Both have been busts out of a Sox uniform. The Sox made the right decision in both cases. And they'll probably be right in dumping Manny.
send him on the next bus out
So much for "I want to finish my career in Boston" in '05. Can anyone take this guy seriously anymore? He's got to go. I don't want to hear about how to replace his bat. I don't care. I'll play left field. The Sox will survive. They survived after Clemens, Pedro, and Nomar, in fact, oh hey, they won the WS twice.
Bye Manny.
Theo...Please get rid of this clown.....he has 20 million reasons to keep quiet and play the game he is being paid to play. How do his teamates keep quiet about this guy??? Are you kidding me?? Come on TeK ?? Come on Youk !! Come on Papi !! Get this guy onboard or help get him out of here. I want one of the team leaders to make a public statement on how they really feel about this guy and how he is bringing the team down at this point. He has been great for the Red Sox but he has worn out his welcome. Thanks for being part of a Champion but leave now as a whine ass loser!!!
Manny, Manny, Manny
Baseball is a business thanks to the Players Association. You got $160,000,000 for eight years of playing a game we, with less talent, would play for $50,000 a year. Okay, $10,000 a year. Take your head out of your a_ _. There is no loyalty in the game. You deserve nothing. What have you done for me lately. You want respect? Cash the checks, bust your butt and shut the f_ _ k up. You couldn't have "mental peace" in any place other than MannyWorld. I saw Ted Williams play. I saw Pumpsie Green get abused for being black. I saw Bill Buckner castrated for busting his butt through an injury. They all have my respect. You have haven't even earned my disgust. Time for you to return to Ork and report to Orson. Have a nice trip.
MAYBE YOU WHITE FOLKS DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS BUT
MANNY IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH
Many site are reporting a deal has been struck 3 teams. Pirates, Sox and Marlins.
Red Sox getting Jason Bay and John Grabow
Marlins acquiring Ramirez, cash and a prospect from the Red Sox
Pirates picking up Jeremy Hermida, two prospects from the Marlins and one from Boston
"paint you as a BAD GUY"? FYI Manny.. the only guy that has painted you in a corner as a "BAD GUY" is yourself! Have you looked in the mirror lately Manny?
I will not bore the readers with the plethora of ridiculous antics, and unforgivable selfish actions that you have treated your team mates with. Yes you hot the ball well many times... but your lazy ass running the bases, and faking injuries has a sour taste in my mouth. Good luck Manny... and good Bye... and by the way.. anyone who has paid you 168 MILLION dollars over 8 yrs has NOT treated you poorly... you spoiled PIG! BYE!
Manny - when you leave Boston, I hope that door swings back and slams right into your face.
Manny....you've got it in reverse....you don't deserve to be in an organization that wants to be a "TEAM"....you are a selfish ballplayer who is lazy at times (like last night when you once again failed to run out a ground ball)....your attitude depresses the entire fan base.....you've got it all wrong, Manny.....Red Sox Nation now knows you are a "cancer", eating at the integrity of the club....we all appreciate your contributions in the PAST, but right now "Manny bein' Manny" needs to on the first bus outta here!!!!! You will NEVER get a contract for what YOU say you're worth ($100,000,000 for 4 years)..... Tito, Theo, and John Henry know, just as your teammates know, that your act is that of a liar (the knee excuse) and a malcontent who doesn't care about his teammates or the ideals of baseball.
No one can afford to go to a game because of greedy people like Manny. The only kids you see at a game are rich kids. The only fans you see in Boston are rich and white.
People at home can't possibly afford an MRI and the Sox send Manny for an MRI on each knee to see if he's faking. What an embarassment.
manny will go down as one of the top five all time hitters ever. you don't trade him, you manage him.
It's over. Manny has talked himself out of this town. I'm hearing lots of buzz about a 3 team deal that sends Manny to the Marlins, Jeremy Hermida and prospects to the Pirates, and Jason Bay to left field at Fenway Park. Make this happen, Theo. The time has come to move on.
Manny is right actually. John Henry and Theo run the Sox with an iron fist - and finally Manny is bringing this out to the open. As much as I love the Sox, I think Manny has a great point. Win a few championships - we're all jaded but let's not forget this is a business and Manny is an employee and he certainly has a right to criticize ownership JUST LIKE ANY OF YOU WITH YOUR BOSS except you don't have a MEDIA to play around with like Sox Mgmt and Manny do. This is a public relations nightmare for both sides. I think Theo and John Henry deserve this nightmare.
manny will go down as one of the top five all time hitters ever. you don't trade him, you manage him.
When are athletes going to understand...no ones cares how you feel when you make $20 million to play freaking BASEBALL! Your opinion matters less to me than Brittany Spears. Entertain me, clown!
Manny:
I'm sure you'll wear an Indians' cap if you are inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. You have no respect for Sox. You don't deserve Red Sox.
It's pretty simple. Trade Manny if they get superior value, keep him if they don't. The Sox have all the leverage w/ the 2 year options. Manny is supposedly dumb but he's manipulating his way out of his obligation b/c he sees more money in a long term deal now. Sounds like Manny's pretty bright to me. Bottom line is Manny is a hard worker, he covets a place in the game's history and he loves to hit. If he tries to dump out on a bogus injury attack his wallet. This team is going nowhere anyways unless they shore up the bullpen.
If the Sox front office were managers who dealt better with humans than numbers, they would have been smarter in the way they dealt with Manny's recent statements. They could have called him in right after he said the stuff around the All_Star Break and tried to make him feel that they were doing something. Instead, Lucchino reproached him in public and the front office fed the press a bunch of innuendo. It seems to me that they had already decided to try and make Manny feel unwelcome. If I was a player on the Sox with a contract coming up in the next couple years, I would be paying close attention to the scenario that has unfolded around Manny the past couple weeks and it wouldn't make me very comfortable.
To: Red Sox Nation Member # 128xxxxx. Please, I'll take your tickets off your hands when the Sox trade Manny and everyone (as you say) bandwagon jumps to Marlins Nation.
"It's not important if we win, but we like to see the players have fun and make us laugh."
Who are you kidding????? It's all about the team winning. If you want to see the players have fun and make us laugh, go watch the Harlem Globetrotters.
the red sox are an embarrassing organization....starting with the team being the LAST TEAM to add an african american to the roster up until today, how they are treating Manny like the classless fools that they are.
Good luck w/ Jason Bay in the 4 hole. I hear he's a real big market guy...hahaha.....
2 for 91.....the boston red sox
How does he figure they make him look like a bad guy? There is no contract to talk about until the end of the season, yet he keeps wanting to do something about it. They haven't said anything negative to the media about him so I have no idea where he gets this mistreatment crap stuff.
Manny is right. The Sox are campaigning hard to make "Red Sox Nation" (ugh!)side against a first-ballot lead cinch Hall of Famer. How much $ have they thrown to Shaughnessy and the (17 %) Globe to write negative columns about Manny?
Manny apologist? No, I'm just a guy who likes to win, and Manny helps the Red Sox win.
Hey, #67, those two WS rings came with who in left?
Why people only mention how much money he makes. HE DAMN DESERVE that money. Your ass are not gifted like him to hit homerun because you guys were, you won't be here talk bad about him. WITHOUT MANNY You would like your parents live all your life without seeing a WS. SO thanks the guy and let him move on.
YOu are just jealous because he's makine more money than all your family combine for next 100 years :-)
Get a life.......
Good luck winning without Manny. The Red Sox condescending ownership and blowhard fans have managed to alienate yet another star.
The Red Sox Front Office is totally screwed up...They really don't deserve player's like Manny, Pedro, Damon, etc...they are classless.
I love the Sox, but HATE the ownership!
Viva Manny!
I love Manny
I long for the days when it was Manny being money. Enough of this M.B.M. sh*t. Throw this a$$-clown off the bus.
At one time the game was about sportsmanship. It seems now more about show me you love me. I don't know what Manny's real gripe is. He can't articulate and any particular issues it seems. Playing it out in the press is not very impressive. I would hate to think that it's all a public relations ploy to force a move due to dissatisfaction rather than an apparent dwindling playing ability.
Then again, sports marketing is big business...
"Who are you kidding????? It's all about the team winning. If you want to see the players have fun and make us laugh, go watch the Harlem Globetrotters."
Ryan - The Globetrotters win all the time.
#87 Reminds me one of those guys who thinks the government watches him while he is in the bathroom.. I think you put your tinfoil hat on a bit too tight..
I don't see much difference between tanking games for future monetary gain in contract talks and what Tim Donaghey did? Thanks for everything Manny, time to part ways... as you wish.
Rumored deal involving Marlins, Pirates, and Sox has Manny going to Florida, Jason Bay to BoSox, and Hermida to Pittsburgh among a variety of minor leaguers and cash.
Jason Bay is a MINOR downgrade at the plate (but look at what the monstah did for Lowell last two years), and a HUGE upgrade defensively. Consider that we would have control of him for three years, and a guy who would wake up tomorrow on a contender for the first time in his career and you have a guy willing to lay down across train tracks to win a series!! Save the difference in Manny's option and give it to Pedroia, Ellsbury, and Papelbon...
When Manny says "the Red Sox" he does not mean the team, he means the heartless FO. Losing him will be a tragedy, worse than Nomar and Pedro. He's right and he deserves a great deal of slack. He's an artist. Varitek punching A-Rod was a wonderful turn-around. Losing Manny will be the wrong kind of turn-around. I understand all the negative comments but they are knee-jerk and short-sighted. You will miss him when he's gone. The Papi-Manny combo was a miracle. Those who are jumping on the media's anti-Manny bandwagon are just insuring that the 08 team will fade into oblivion. Long term, who knows what will happen, But for the rest of this year, it doesn't matter, as the heartless fools have sucked all the life out of the team. Thanks, Manny, and we will miss you for a long time.
How come no one questions Curt Schilling and his thievery? But the guy who actually shows up to the ballpark is getting ran out of town? He's done more than enough for this Team over the years, and he's exactly right, they are making him out to be the bad guy. I'm turning in my Fanship in, I don't care for the Red Sox there's no more loyalty to their players, its a business??? I thought we were better than that.
Manny (with help from Scott Borass) is just trying to punch his ticket out of town so he can get a more lucrative contract this offseason. Though his bat will be missed tremendously I think he is becoming a huge distraction in the clubhouse. Getting rid of him just might be addition by subtraction.
Manny was the man in the world series last year. Obviously, we won't be needing him this year whether he goes or stays.
Manny was the man in the world series last year. Obviously, we won't be needing him this year whether he goes or stays.
I am loving this. You bean town idiots have placated to this baby forever.
Now your clubhouse is a circus. Youk (the sweatiest man in baseball) is next.
Lets Go YANKEES!!!!!!
Hey Manny - There are graveyards full of irreplaceable people who did less with their talent and more with their mouth and equally the other way around - which one are you...class clown or the real deal...for $20 million bucks a year, it's best to remember to close your mouth when you sink into deep water!
Adios!
You all really need to calm down and laugh at the theater this is. The central character in this comedy is a fellow of low intelligence, overweight, and clearly lazy and quite self-centered, but with great eye-hand coordination and an uncanny ability to hit a baseball. That's all it is. Make of it what you want; defend him or vilify him and / or his agent. Realize though that the Red Sox organization, Ramirez, Boras, and many others in the entertainment industry we call baseball sleep very well at night with the profits they reap. The rest of us should focus on the real worries -- impending inflation, a recession, declining value of the most valuable assets all of have (houses), and leaving a world that is worse off for our children than the one we inherited, with global warming, rampant pollution of our environment, declining food supplies, etc. Whether or not this simple baseball player is traded or not is really not important relative to all the work we need to do. Focus on what is important, and to relax, try to enjoy the show (entertainment) this entire charade is.
Ok so now it's Manny being Borris. Everyone needs to understand that Borris is engaged in this little act he's putting on. I've had it with the both of them. Time to move on....If we're paying most of his salary, send him to KC for the rest of the year and get some good prospects in return.
We learned a long time ago ...it's always about the pesos. Mo Vaughn was about the money. Pedro and respect was about the money. Johnny Demon was about the money. Roger "misremebered" Clemens was about the money. Manny's actions are all being orchestrated by Scott Boras. Boras doesn't make a dime unless Manny signs a new contract. The players and the players union have too much power in these situations. Manny wants to create a circus...trade him to Ringling Bros. for a couple of clowns. Manny is a friggin' 36 year old man-baby. It's time for some other town to wipe his sorry ass. If some other town wants to pay him "25 million worth of respect a year for 4 years", let them. Manny, thanks for the memories and bye bye. ..For players like Manny it's about the money, for fans it's about the uniform. We and the Red Sox will survive quite well, just like we did when the other 2-faces left town because of an apparent "lack of respect"......I mean MONEY!!
#70.....I'm a purely white as the driven snow Boston Red Sox fan, but probably not for long. Manny is one thousand percent right. The Sox have had big success in recent years, a nice chunk of that success coming off of Manny's bat. All I can say is thanks for the memories, Manny. There were some great ones. Now go and make some more because my friends and I will be waiting and watching wherever you go. That team will have some new fans, including me. As displayed tonight, the Sox are going down, and the team will just not be as mighty without you.
Manny is 100% right about the way the Sox have handled the situation. Their goal, along with the media, was to make him out to be the bad guy and turn the fans against him. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR FALLING INTO THEIR TRAP! You are all a bunch of hypocrites. You love the guy when he is hitting homeruns and being funny with his "Manny being Manny" stuff, but you turn on him in the blink of an eye. He is arguably the greatest Red Sox hitter ever, one who loved the fans and the city. I don't blame him for being angry with the way everyone has turned on him. I would not want to play or live here either if I were treated that way. If they do trade him, I hope it comes back to bite them in the butt!
The only reason he is doing this, is because of his agent probably. His agent tells him to act all stupid. Manny does it. The Red Sox trade him or don't pick up his option. Then his agent will try to get a dumb team to give him a long term contarct still around the $15 to $17 million a year. Maybe the Yankees. So who cares. I do hope they trade him, and dont keep him around any more. Let the other guys play with peace in thier minds knowing they can play baseball and not worry what Manny is going to do.
Good riddance, Manny. You don't deserve Boston. A town that worships players who leave their heart and guts on the field. Take your TIRED act somewhere else. You money grubbing prima donna. Don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out of town!
was just a matter of time before larry the gadfly and theo the 3 and out and their media rumpswabs tore the whole thing down. this team won't even make the playoffs.
Let me see if I follow the folks like Jake with the small Snake. The Sox engage in racist fueled conspiracies to bad mouth the non-white players that they somehow were able to overcome their racisim for when they committed to paying them tens and even hudreds of millions of dollars. Is that right? Or is it just that our glaring whiteness blinds us from seeing truths that only non-white geniuses like you and Manny can see. Make some sense, folks, or don't post.
Manny wants the Sox to pick up his option. Well Manny you are not worth $20 million anymore. Not for 25 HR's and about 80 RBI's. So unless you want to give back about $7 or even $10 million, then the Sox will talk.
I think Manny is easily lead Scott Boras influence is at play here also,the sox got two ws wins which changed the psyche of all fans!Manny is not hitting like he used to [still great]the lack of focus tonight had alot to do with the pawl cast by the whole Manny issue.The trading of Pedro and Nomar was very well timed byTheo both players have been injury plaged since leaving.At the time Nomar was behaving just like Manny is now a digruntled pain in the ass!Its too bad but they better get value in return.
Manny over the years has fun playing baseball, it is what makes him so good. If he has a bad game or makes a bad play he immediately forgets it. Other players get down and go into longer slumps. The team WILL lose more games without him. When the team starts finishing third every year I want to hear everyone say well they lost again but did you see how everyone ran hard to first on theirground outs. On the sports radio today I heard Manny has less RBI's the last three years than he did the prior three years. They forgot to mention how many less runners were on base thelast three years with Ortiz batting in front of him. When he is gone he will be missed.
This whole situation reminds me of when a guy wants to dump a girlfriend, but he doesn't want to look bad, so he just stops talking to her and purposely pisses her off so she will dump him.
Manny is 100% right about the way the Sox have handled the situation. Their goal, along with the media, was to make him out to be the bad guy and turn the fans against him. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR FALLING INTO THEIR TRAP! You are all a bunch of hypocrites. You love the guy when he is hitting homeruns and being funny with his "Manny being Manny" stuff, but you turn on him in the blink of an eye. He is arguably the greatest Red Sox hitter ever, one who loved the fans and the city. I don't blame him for being angry with the way everyone has turned on him. I would not want to play or live here either if I were treated that way.
Why is it when Scott Boras gets in the picture, these guys become idiots. Look at A-Rod's stunt last year that came back to bite him in the butt. I believe Boras is behind Manny's sudden tirades and bad behavior, but that does NOT excuse Manny for going along with it. Boras is a cancer to baseball and Manny is another one of his pawns. Sad...
Manny is right about the Red Sox smear campaign against him. With the Boston Globe as their instrument of charachter assasination, what could a Manny or Nomar do to save their reputation?
Getting rid of Manny will catapult the Red Sox into mediocrity, leave Papi floating in the breeze, and will be the beginning of the end for Theo the boy-genius. Does anything Manny says *really* affect any of you? Does it affect you more than the Sox winning championships? Get over it and enjoy the ride you've had, because it's about to get *really* bumpy.
And who will Wilbur and Shaughnessy target next? You better hope it's not Tito.
There is no 'I' in 'team'.
Time to fish or cut bait with Manuel Ramirez- the poster boy for Depends for immature pro-athletes and his Boorish agent.
Manny is spot on. The guy is a player. People like to paint him as the bad guy, but his production in a Red Sox uniform should speak for itself. He's one of a kind. The Sox are going to miss him terribly. Think about it....who is going to give the Sox those numbers? Jacoby? No. Coco? Not a chance. Dustin? JD? Youk? Mike Lowell? Nope. Those 4 are good, but not Manny. Despite all the crap he gets about his fielding, he's been known to make great plays in left. Also, his gets rids of the ball surprisingly fast.
All you Manny bashers are just plain wrong. Either you listen to too much WEEI or you read too many of the negative columnists like Dan Shaughnessy.