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Schilling: Keeping Manny could be a problem

Posted by Steve Silva, Boston.com Staff July 31, 2008 09:25 AM

July 11, 2004: Prior to a Red Sox-Rangers game, during batting practice, pitcher Curt Schilling (left) had a rather long, animated conversation with teammate Manny Ramirez (right), who asked out of the starting lineup, sighting a hamstring problem. Schilling did most of the talking.

(7.11.04: Jim Davis / Boston Globe File Photo)

Rehabbing Red Sox righthander Curt Schilling this morning said he thought the Manny Ramirez situation has affected the team and keeping him in Boston for the stretch run could present a problem.

"At the end of the day you're taking the field with a guy who doesn't want to play with you, doesn't want to be there, doesn't want to ... obviously effort-wise is just not there and that's disheartening and disappointing," Schilling said during his weekly appearance on Boston sports radio WEEI's Dennis and Callahan program.

Does he think it's time for Manny to go?

"Would I be the only guy in the New England area that said no if I did?" Schilling replied to the question. "I think I'm probably with the consensus. It's very obvious from anything you see or hear he doesn't want to be here. And anytime that there's a piece of the equation you have a problem, and then not trading and leaving him here is a problem because you don't know what you're going to get."

Schilling was asked if he was insulted by Manny's "the Red Sox don't deserve a player like me" comment.

"I was here for the end of both Pedro [Martinez] and Nomar's [Garciaparra] situation and I'm not sure how there's any parallels there," Schilling said. "... I've always felt the organization extended a lot of courtesy Manny's way and I know Terry [Francona] as a manager, like with everybody else he went that extra mile for Manny. It's disappointing to see that not get recognized, but that happens.

"The hard part for me was this [situation with Manny] derailed into a train wreck so quick, so fast, and so oddly. You had the Buddah Zen Master guy in spring training, reading and 'life is good, don't worry be happy' and it just looked like he was poised to have a monster season. Physically he worked his butt off. Obviously he wants to play longer. Anytime a guy like that is motivated, you get excited. You get a chance to see some stuff...

"We had a conversation a little while back, talking about what he should do and how things are gonna go and there's just really not a reason from a business standpoint for the Red Sox to do anything right now. There really wouldn't... Why would they? Given your age and the contract situations. Why would they not just kind of wait and see how things played out. I think there was, maybe there's some feeling on his part that if he did what he did last winter and he came out and had a monster first couple of months that they'd sit down and say 'OK we want to keep you here the next four years, let's get something done,' and it felt like to me that the second he realized that that was not an option, this just went straight downhill."

Could this situation have caused the Red Sox, losers of 4 of their last 5 on this homestand, to lose its focus?

"Absolutely, absolutely," Schilling said. "This is one of those things ... the trading deadline is always a weird time for everybody, no matter what team you play for but this ... when things are going on with Manny, the fact that Manny's locker was in the back, and not with the rest of the guys, ended up being a thing that worked because media wasn't hovering, there wasn't stuff going on, but it appears to me that he's moved out into the clubhouse now to try and make sure he gets his message broadcast and that's ... it's not fun.

"I would absolutely agree that it's affected this team. I don't question it. I've been around when it did before in '06. These are your teammates and it just makes it hard when every question, you're struggling in a 1-for-14 and grinding your [expletive] off at the plate and every question is about something that you have absolutely no control over..."

Schilling also said would give Jason Bay his No. 38 (and Bay's number with the Pirates) if Bay ends up joining the Red Sox in exchange for someone to give a five-figure donation to his charity, Curt's Pitch. "It pretty much can be had right now... yeah ...we'll work something out," Schilling said.

More quotes of note from Schilling:

  • Will Manny be traded by 4 p.m. today?

    “I don’t know… there’s always a part of some people that you want to see somebody not get what they want. You know?... Oh sure, [he’s going to win this showdown]. Manny’s going to be a free agent no matter what next year. It doesn’t matter where you play… It’s unfortunate that someone who’s going to be considered one of the greatest hitters that ever lived, is going to just be one of the greatest hitters that ever lived.”

  • Did Manny lose support of teammates after Jack McCormick incident?

    “I don’t know. I don’t know how much support really is there. You’re talking about a very different man. Manny is, as we all know, one of the most talented right-handed hitters that’s ever played but I’m not sure it goes beyond that for a lot of us… the guy can hit and hit like nobody else ever could hit. I don’t know that there are a lot of guys… he has his moments when you sit and talk to him and he walks away and you go ‘wow, who is that guy?’ He’s got a soft heart at times but I never invested a whole lot there when the issues that I… the times that I had questions… problems, I talked to Manny, and we had our run-ins and there was a couple of times when I thought I was going to have a run-in and was told not to, but I don’t know about that losing [support from the] team. I don’t think there’s a lot invested there.”

  • Have any teammates told Manny to knock it off?

    “Recently I don’t know… I don’t know, I can’t answer that… I’ve had my moments, and that was both smiled upon and frowned upon when they happened in different times… the club is struggling enough where everyone is worrying about themselves. … This is not the first time a situation’s come up like this with Manny. There have questions in the past about things. So it’s not a Youkilis or a Pedroia thing [to sit down with Manny], neither one of those guys is that person. Mike Lowell, yeah I could absolutely see it. Jason [Varitek], yeah., but not a lot of guys are suited to be that person, or in a position to do that.”

  • Does he wish that Terry Francona would do what Jimi Williams did to Pedro Martinez when the former Sox manager told Martinez he wouldn’t be starting when Pedro showed up late to the ballpark?

    “I’m not so sure, well… I would tell you that something to that affect at different times has happened already. You guys didn’t know about it, but it’s happened. He’s already had a couple of times when I think [Francona’s] said, ‘That’s enough.” I think early on he did it a couple of times and was called on the carpet by other people for it, and then finally people understood what he was dealing with and came to his side a little bit more.”

  • On Manny’s effort running up the first-base line on a ground ball behind third base during John Lackey’s no-hit bid on Tuesday night.

    “I laugh at the fact that people are like, ‘Oh my God, I can’t believe that… on this night he didn’t…,” like that night was any different than any other night for him. .. It’s stunning to me that it just was OK I guess, the other day for things to go the way they went. It’s gonna be funny to watch all the people jump if Manny does get traded and things happen, how many people in the media area going to come out of the woodwork and say, ‘you players are idiots, you let him be like this for so long,’ and the media’s given him, for the mos part, every bit the free ride everybody else has... I thought it was telling the other night when someone asked about Manny's run down to first and I thought Terry's answer was something like, 'well, he does that a lot.' Think about that. That's someone saying, 'what do you think about this guy half-assing down the line and the manager saying, 'yeah, that happens a lot.' Again, things you kind of look at and go, 'What, we just move on?' Why is that the breaking point for people. Why after all this stuff in all the years, why is that like the breaking point?"

  • Is Manny quirky or a distraction?

    “..I’ve always wondered how we came to be OK with ‘… he’s just not gonna play hard today,’ and that was OK. We’ve come a long way, especially in this city as devoted and as much as the Red Sox mean to people, the fact that you could have a Dustin Pedroia, a Jason Varitek, someone who would bleed and literally play his nine breaths to make an out or get a hit or win a game, and have somebody at the other end of the spectrum from a committed standpoint, you know these players love the uniform, love the fans, and believe in Red Sox and what it means to be a part of this and then you have guys who really don’t give a [expletive].”

  • Is there a better place for Manny to play than Boston?

    “No, no… when you think about the history and think about the kid gloves that these fans have had through all of it, he’s always come out a hero and he’s got a chance… this is because he doesn’t have a four-year contract. That’s it… it really is. That’s his prerogative but that’s the only reason this has happened.”

  • On Scott Boras’s involvement:

    “I think absolutely he’s absolutely had a hand in this … I think he absolutely has a piece of this. Scott Boras stands to make zero dollars if the Red Sox pick up Manny’s options the next two years. Manny’s not 1- years from retirement, he’s maybe four obviously, that’s where he’s at. So does Scott Boras want to get a two year-deal for Manny or a four-year deal for Manny? At the end of the day it falls on the player because Manny’s an adult… I can’t fathom Scott hasn’t had some… you read his comments, he just has no ability to answer a question short, tactfully, and straightforward. It’s a 12 paragraph way to say 19 syllable words that you just can’t figure out what the hell he’s saying.”

  • Schilling on Pedro Martinez:

    “I enjoyed pitching with Pedro, but I watched Pedro for a year come and go as he pleased, and do whatever he pleased, from a schedule standpoint and to a point, All-Star break heading home and no one ever said a word… The things that Pedro said going out of town about Terry [Francona], that crushed me because of what I saw Tito do for him. Manny's the same way..."

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    273 comments so far...
    1. Well, keeping Schilling ended up being a problem, didn't it?
      Yet, still, he has something to say. This guy still thinks W Bush is a great president.
      Maybe Curt should donate the rest of his '08 salary towards Manny's paycheck on another team.

      Posted by Anne M Falcone July 31, 08 11:11 AM
    1. Schilling is one of the best all-round people to ever put on a Boston sports uniform. Incredible person, leader, ballplayer. Manny has pocketed $168 million dollars form the Red Sox to date. How many dollars has Manny contributed locally to charities? How many Childrens Hospital visits has he made? What has he done for the Jimmy Fund? How many local apearances has Manny made for charity? And the answer to all of the above is ZERO. How pathetic is that? And this guy has supporters in Red Sox Nation? This guy sounds like an incredibly selfish person - and a cancer to the Red Sox - no matter how many home runs he hits. If it's "all about Manny", and nothing else, then he needs to be shown the door today.

      Posted by Bob Daly July 31, 08 11:18 AM
    1. KEEPING SCHILLING'S MOUTH SHUT IS A PROBLEM, TOO.

      Posted by SHWA25 July 31, 08 11:19 AM
    1. You can always count on Schilling for a real answer to these questions, and probably an accurate one. He is right to call out Pedro and Manny for whining about management, especially when the team put up with so much.

      Posted by Spencer Anderson July 31, 08 11:49 AM
    1. Says Schilling, as he collects $8 million for doing nothing. And who will play somewhere else with his arm rehabbed on the Red Sox bill. Sorry, but his remarks are interesting but completely worthless since he will probably never play for the Red Sox again.

      Posted by ron July 31, 08 11:51 AM
    1. Karen, the Schill is getting into the picture!!!

      Posted by Bill July 31, 08 11:52 AM
    1. boo hoo hooo....
      who cares of about what Schilling has to say. He walks around like he's some spokesman for righteous baseball.

      he's a dick.

      Posted by Pedro Sucks2 July 31, 08 11:54 AM
    1. Dear Globe Staff,

      You might want to edit your postings a bit more thoroughly. Your editorial comments abiut Schilling's responses, while true and painfully obvious, probably were not meant to appear in this posting. Just a thought.

      Posted by Stumpel July 31, 08 12:00 PM
    1. Say what you will about Big Schill, but he just told it like it is. Plain and simple.

      Posted by BN July 31, 08 12:05 PM
    1. I appreciate somebody stepping forward with some level of candidness and honesty, but there's no way that Schilling's comments are helping anybody. He's pretty much in open opposition to Manny, and that's not okay, especially as he's not even a member of the team this year. He himself has questionable support from teammates, who might just want Schil to himself shut up.

      Posted by Dylan Dethier July 31, 08 12:07 PM
    1. Schilling isn't the most articulate chap to have walked the face of the earth. He manages to say a few things without being direct but the message is there.

      The team is tired of Manny

      Francona has had his hands tied by management for doing something about Manny

      Manny doesn't care

      He is hurting the team

      Boras is behind the effort to get out of Boston

      Manny is a sleaze who tried to con the Sox into believing he was a changed guy

      Character doesn't matter with the current ownership. Put up the stats and all is forgiven.

      Posted by rob July 31, 08 12:12 PM
    1. As if we needed any more evidence to prove Curt Schilling is a prick. He's played exactly ZERO games for the Red Sox this season, yet feels the need to inject himself into this situation, as he does all the time.

      Red Light aught to spend more time rehabbing his shoulder, and less time flapping his lips. He's like a teenage girl...always needs to know what is going on with everyone ever.

      Posted by Ryan July 31, 08 12:12 PM

    1. I'm a Yankee fan. Regardless of what people say about Schilling.............I admire him. Good for you Curt. Tell it like it is. So unusual. Everyone else is so "full of it."..................If you read between the lines it is obvious he feels Red Sox management was very much to blame for much of this not only with Manny but with Martinez {and I believe he's accurate.} The "Press" is as shallow as always..........but that is to be expected.

      Posted by jeff July 31, 08 12:15 PM
    1. Medfield requests that Schilling be considered as part of any trade deal- preferably to a national League club that plays in the far west.

      Posted by APC July 31, 08 12:16 PM
    1. Schill has been a great guy for Boston , very dedacited to his charities, but more so to himself , he is and will be a legend here and I am gratefull for that. But in the end he is no different than Manny (exculding his efforts) Curt is about Curt he is a great and honest guy just ask him

      Posted by chuck green July 31, 08 12:17 PM
    1. Apparently A.M.F. you did not hear Schilling's interview on 'EEI. I don't know if anyone else on the team would have spoken up like Big Schill did today. Nothing was sugar coated. "Manny, you ARE the weakest link...GOODBYE!"

      Posted by Anne Robinson July 31, 08 12:18 PM
    1. Mr Schilling should first learn how to speak english and then criticize a fellow player. He wants to say so much, that at times it does not even make sense.It seems as if everyone is trying not to be outdone when it comes to this subject.
      Alas, it will soon blow over. Perhaps when the team wins a few games?

      Posted by nirota r. July 31, 08 12:19 PM
    1. Simply, I like Schilling. He's an intelligent individual who cares about what he does (I'll give him a pass on his politics) and gives everything he has . . . with success. If there is or has been a problem, it is that some individuals in the media have difficulty dealing with an intelligent athlete, particularly one who speaks his mind.

      Posted by TBoston July 31, 08 12:19 PM
    1. It's Jimy Williams not Jimi Williams. Jimy Williams is a male or were you in diapers then?

      Posted by nan moore July 31, 08 12:20 PM
    1. Hahahaahaha!! Curt Schilling is talking crap again!! what a surprise!! How can you talk bad about two hall of famers and two players that made boston a power house in the american league. Pedro and Manny were the most exciting pitcher and hitter that boston has had since Ted Williams and Roger Clemens!!

      Posted by ivan July 31, 08 12:21 PM
    1. As far as the $8 million goes..... the Red Sox had x-rays performed on that shoulder PRIOR to signing the 1-year deal. They knew exactly what they were getting into.... it was merely to block him from going anywhere else.

      Posted by jp July 31, 08 12:25 PM
    1. Curt makes points and says things others dare not to.

      Posted by illwill July 31, 08 12:25 PM
    1. Keeping Curt could be a problem!

      Posted by LAfacewtihanOAKLANDbooty July 31, 08 12:27 PM
    1. The Red Sox with out Manny are ice cream with out the cream....Flavorless. Schilling's opinion is worth a cent. I am more interested in what the actual players feel about the impending change.

      Posted by Jeff July 31, 08 12:29 PM
    1. Mr. Bloody Sock needs to shutup. There's no way the Sox win either World Series without Manny. And they'll never win if he's traded this year. Even Gammons himself has said Ortiz-Ramirez may be the best 3-4 lineup in the history of baseball. Think about that statement before you go Manny hating.

      Posted by Sekar July 31, 08 12:29 PM
    1. Schilling has been more of a cancer on this team than Manny ever has, and contributed INFININITELY less, outside of a handful of dramatic stories. Say what you will about bloody socks, without Manny, there is no 04 or 07, period. Aside from all that, The Schill has done plenty of slimy deal-whining too, just in a different, more underhanded way. He's also a compulsive self-promotion machine (video games? Please...)
      Schilling is a non-HOF, at-times-great pitcher who is getting paid 8m to sit on his ass this year and talk more trash about other players, which is the worst of all habits.
      Manny, outside of his weird tantrums and eccentric play, has never publicly trashed other players as far as I know, he's just done his thing. He is an undeniable baseball legend in numbers and charisma both. If he goes, I will miss him so much, and I think many of the haters will look back on this later and kick their own asses for not getting it. He doesn't know how good he's got it, but neither do we.

      Posted by Jonah Matranga July 31, 08 12:29 PM
    1. Don't bash Schilling here. He's never said the type of things Manny has said about the Red Sox that I know a lot of people really enjoy. I don't believe he's ever attacked a 61 year-old man who couldn't get 18 tickets for him at a second's notice...

      Believe what you want with the media, but it doesn't take a writer to know Manny gave up on the Sox a while ago. Without Schilling, we'd have no idea how anyone felt besides Ortiz, Lowell, and the other guy......Lugo.

      Posted by Paul July 31, 08 12:30 PM
    1. Manny, like Pedro did, talks about getting respect. Both of them should realize that respect is a two-way street, not just for what they want.

      Posted by dennis macmillan July 31, 08 12:34 PM
    1. You know, everyone can bit@# and moan all they want about Schilling, but at least the guy talks and says what he thinks (right or wrong). Most of these guys all hide. Plus, when healthy he did pitch his rear end off and that counts for something too.

      Posted by Phil July 31, 08 12:36 PM

    1. Manny can Hit.He can win games!Big Papi loves him.Lots of Sox fans love him.
      But...he's alot like steroids;he can make you better or HE CAN DESTROY YOU!
      Get rid of him!!! Get Bay...move on.Those Yanks are getting bigger in the rearview mirror and they just got a tune up.
      Mannychild has to pack up his little boy ego and have a good time in Miami! See Ya!!

      Posted by Pearsallsshrink July 31, 08 12:37 PM
    1. Why the antagonism towards Schilling? I'm sure he's saying things that other guys in the locker room feel, but can't or won't say because they have to play with Manny every day. There's no doubt that we're going to hear a lot of stories about Manny come out after he's gone, and they won't be complimentary. I always count on Schilling to speak frankly and honestly, and he certainly isn't the only player to have these opinions about Ramirez.

      Posted by Chris July 31, 08 12:38 PM
    1. Curt's never at a loss for words.

      Posted by Vivian July 31, 08 12:40 PM
    1. Well Schilling IS right about Manny on this. And Boras should be banned frrom MLB as an agent.

      Posted by jak1 July 31, 08 12:42 PM
    1. Comment number one is interesting... Schilling is a Republican, therefore has no credibility commenting on Manny...the poster must be on the Globe's editorial board.....and of course Schilling is at fault because his shoulder fell apart.. There is one in every crowd.... Good job, Curt, for being candid. Too bad there isnt more of that in sports...... And to Anne Falcone, stick with Moveon.org....

      Posted by John July 31, 08 12:42 PM
    1. Schill is DEAD ON, I'm very sorry to see Manny go but unfortunatly he has teamed with Scott "The DEVIL" Boras and at the end of the day it's all about the $$$$. Manny just doesn't care, a great hitter but he doesn't care. He does care about 4 years and $80 more million. This runs been fun but he's got to go, NOW.

      Posted by NHbaseball.net July 31, 08 12:44 PM
    1. As always... Schill speaks his mind and says the things many others are thinking but don't have the balls to say.

      Even the times he's dead wrong, at least he has an opinion and puts himself out there.

      Posted by Dave July 31, 08 12:46 PM
    1. Schilling is the biggest pot calling the kettle black.

      Posted by Suzanne July 31, 08 12:47 PM
    1. Schilling is dead on. The organization may have to pull punches (though fewer and fewer every day) when they speak, but Schilling doesn't. As frank as Schilling is being, you can still read between the lines and know that Manny is a great hitter but a first class sphincter in every other aspect of his baseball life. Good riddance. I hope he gets his trade and blows out a knee before season's end and never gets another contract.

      Posted by John D. July 31, 08 12:48 PM
    1. Schilling is the most arrogant, self-righteous baseball player ever to step foot on a field. At what point did being Christian give you the right to judge and point fingers. World-class know-it-all...

      Posted by Joe Vee July 31, 08 12:48 PM
    1. Schilling is talking to much trash, he's talking that way because Boston just gave him a favor on hired him for one more year, if Boston let manny go, Boston will be done for this year; what boston will have to do is try do cool down the situation with manny, if will be necesary using David Ortiz help and trying to end the year with a playoff season at least and then at the end of the season let manny to go and don't sign him. I still thinking is a solution out there for this novel manny being manny without letting him to go.

      Posted by omar cruz July 31, 08 12:50 PM
    1. This is great. I live in Philadelphia. I saw Curt complain and moan about how he couldn't wait to get out of Philadelphia. RSN: Sorry you have to lisen to Curt!

      Posted by Monique Stroh. July 31, 08 12:50 PM
    1. Shilling is the only person on the team who has the guts to say what's on his mind, and I for one applaud him! Yeah he is getting money for rehabbing and probably won't be back next season but it was the Red Sox decision to have him do it their way which it turns out Shilling was right again. If they had done it the way he wanted he would possibly have had a chance to help this season.

      Posted by Bob July 31, 08 12:51 PM
    1. it's just Schilling being (blowhard) Schilling

      Posted by john July 31, 08 12:52 PM
    1. Like the guy personally or not, he gives you a straight answer. And last time I checked, it was Schilling that wanted to have surgery immediately and try and come back - and it was the Red Sox that disagreed. Don't blame him for collecting on a contract that they signed with him. It's not like they don't check his medical condition or anything...

      Posted by Kevin July 31, 08 12:52 PM
    1. Schilling is one of the best all-round people to ever put on a Boston sports uniform. He earned the $8 million he's getting this year back in 2004. Curt was instrumental in bringing that world series to Boston and that is worth more than money (I don't think the Sox had to sacrifice much to pay his $8 mil this season). He does more for the morale of the team than Manny does...I'm ready for Manny to go.

      Posted by MG July 31, 08 12:53 PM
    1. Schilling is the biggest hypocrite to wear the Red Sox uniform.
      What he did this year was calculated and dispicable.

      Manny being Manny, and Curt being pompous. Look in the mirror.

      They both hane to go!!!!!!!!

      Posted by Jim July 31, 08 12:53 PM
    1. What a cornball.....I can't stand Manny....never liked him. But Schilling....he's just as bad. When's the last time he played? Eventually, the front office will grease the skids for Shilling as well. This organization is a joke. I will enjoy watching them fall apart and based on the last six games its already started.

      Posted by kevin July 31, 08 12:53 PM
    1. There are people who play the victim role, and people who don't. It's a fundamental difference in character. As much as I've loved watching Manny, he's been very well taken care of here and hasn't given much back beyond his bat. And now he feels persecuted? Sorry. I'd rather watch the Red Sox lose another 86 years with heart and grace. As much as some tire of Schilling, he never plays the victim. He defers to the good of the team. You might not love his swagger, but in the end, he's a good man.

      Posted by edmund July 31, 08 12:55 PM
    1. Why do people blame Schilling for being hurt and being paid?
      Get a clue, you fair weather fans.
      He says what he feels, which is a HUGE difference from 99.9% of athletes who never say anything.
      I love the fact that he speaks his mind, and tells the truth as he ses it, the fans aren't stupid, they see it too.
      Get rid of Manny, just like we got rid of Pedro and NoMas......
      those were two excellent decisions, no?

      Posted by dave coombs July 31, 08 12:56 PM
    1. I'm a high school coach and an avid baseball fan. My team is the Red Sox. Curt is right on target and anyone who supports many hasn't got a clue about the whole concept of team sports. Manny makes enough money and he signed this contract. If he just kept playing hard they probably would have picked up his 20 million next year. Now he is too busy knocking down old men and completely selling out his teammates. I love the Sox, but I can't stand watching Manny anymore. Trade him and take Jason Bay. I'm sure he'll play hard and for a lot less money. Manny it doesn't matter whether its high school, college, or professional athletics the reason you compete is for the respect you have for your team and yourself. Too bad for you that you haven't learned that yet.

      Posted by Duke Beck July 31, 08 12:57 PM
    1. Schilling is giving us the straight stuff, thoughtful and well-considered. Manny is a totally narcissistic LARGE CHILD stuck at about five years old, just like Pedro. Tempermental geniuses with talent are notorious for imploding & both Martinez and now Ramirez are following script.

      Posted by david mangan July 31, 08 12:57 PM
    1. Someone had to post a comment about Schill's politics; what a joke. That's what I really hate about my home town, you just can't leave your ultra-liberal politics out of anything! Schill is right on the money about both Manny and Pedro Mart. He's a gamer and always gave his all; without him we never would have won 2 WS in 4 years. Right on Schill! Manny can follow PedroMart right out of town and end up with the Mets next year; let Minaya take all the prima donnas and slackers. For $20MM Manny should have known better than to throw his team under the bus. Hit the road, space cowboy!

      BTW Anne; look at how much Schill has done for charity; what the hell has Manny done outside of selling his grill on Ebay? Get a grip.

      Posted by Sofachi July 31, 08 01:01 PM
    1. I hear echoes of all the bitterness from the old days here ; - ) Did the Red Sox win the series last year? I often think that even though Sox fans love the WS wins, part of the nation still needs to be bitter about something and the rage has just been redirected. I just thought Bostonians could make it one full championship season without venting on someone.

      Long term, Pedro, Nomar and Manny being run out of town is not going to serve Boston's reputation very well. Soon Latino ballplayers may start saying what the black ballplayers say. They would only be partially right - bitter sox fans have hated plenty of white players out of town as well.

      Schilling (when he talks), Dennis and Callahan: three of my least favorite people in Boston sports.

      Posted by pembleton 6 July 31, 08 01:01 PM
    1. How can you compare Schilling to Manny? Shilling has a valid injury. Schilling played hurt, to the point where it could have affected his career (how soon they forget). Manny takes a day off because it's his time of the month. Even when he's in there, he decides to take the day off (see 3 strikes right down the middle from Rivera with the bat not even leaving his shoulder). Oh, let's jump on Schilling because he supports the president. That's relevant. Morons ... the lot of you.

      Posted by Pat July 31, 08 01:02 PM
    1. This is all very heartbreaking. Not the loss of Manny or Schilling's comments, but the vacuous, shallow whining of the so-called fans in these posts. Schilling will always be a true Red Sox hero, as will Manny. They are both at the ends of their respective careers and BOTH deserve the respect and admiration of the fans. The only villains here are the agents who've demeaned everything good and noble about baseball by turning it into a money game. I wish we could go back to days before free agency when great players (think Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle) spent their entire careers with the teams they came up with.

      Posted by Ernie Medeiros July 31, 08 01:02 PM
    1. schilling is a tool period.

      Posted by AS July 31, 08 01:04 PM
    1. say what you want now.... no manny=no playoffs.

      Posted by voice of reason July 31, 08 01:04 PM
    1. Manny should shut his mouth, & play the game. He is nothing more than a spoiled friggan brat, & is a bigger pre-madonna than Pedro....
      I'd rather have Timmy Lupus from the Bad News Bears play on the sox rather than Manny.

      Posted by Smacked-up July 31, 08 01:05 PM
    1. I hope Curt is able to come back for another year at least after what he went through this year. "Go Manny", and don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out. Come on people, he is replacable, we have several other great players on our team. If they can get down to business and quit worrying about this idiot savant perhaps the Red Sox can get back to doing what they do best.........play outstanding ball!!!!!!

      Posted by SandieKay July 31, 08 01:05 PM
    1. Why are so many of you bashing Schill? Just cause he hasn't played this year doesn't mean he's not part of this team. He possibly could've played if the Sox would've let him have the surgery, but the made him try and rehab it and it didnt work. But someone asked him, so he told them the truth, and he nailed it right on the head. Manny is Manny. He's got no respect for his teammates and is as selfish as they come. He's one of the best hitters of all time, but he's also one of the worst teammates of all time. It's been the same thing since 05-06 with Manny....its time to move on

      Posted by Quinn July 31, 08 01:06 PM
    1. Jason Bay for Manny. Similar production, less money, younger, less whininig.
      Where is the problem?

      Posted by Bob July 31, 08 01:08 PM
    1. While I'm not crazy about Schilling taking $8 million for nothing, you have to admit he does speak frankly about how a cancer / malcontent like Manny impacts his teammates or co-workers. Its hard to get motivated to do a good job, when there's a primadona who's 1. been allowed to play by separate rules, and 2. doesn't even put forth an effort. Kudos to Theo for hopefully getting rid of Manny, Nomar (don't get me started), and Pedro. All were traded at the right time - and in an unhappy state. Betcha the Mets are REAL happy they paid so much for Pedro...while I'm on Theo - I will NEVER forgive him for the incredibly stupid mistake of not re-signing Orlando Cabrera - who wins everywhere he goes AND is a postive influence in the clubhouse. Julio Lugo at SS? Give me a break..... Cabrera was a winner

      Posted by Riko July 31, 08 01:10 PM
    1. I love all this discord on the Red Sox, it's almost as much fun as the fact that this year the Angels are kicking Red Sox butt all over the place. Please keep it up, Manny and Curt. Thanks.
      Sincerely,
      Angels Fan

      Posted by Gerry July 31, 08 01:10 PM
    1. After what Schilling has done for this town and this team, he can speak his mind as much as he wants. It's like all you idiots who overreacted at Foulke for a Burger King comment and turned on him. Do you forget 100 pitches in 3 days against the Yankees? Should have been MVP of the World Series? Schilling - bloody sock? Experimental, career threatening procedure? No gratitude shown at all.

      Posted by John July 31, 08 01:11 PM
    1. It's nice to hear a player's point of view regarding the Manny situation. Curt has always been open with the fans and I admire that. He's opinionated, but so are all of us who post here. None of us will ever agree with everything he says, but that's life. He's entitled to his opinions just as we are.

      Anyone who compares Curt to Manny is way off base. Those two are as different as day and night. Curt would be pitching right now if he had his way and if he'd had the surgery as he wanted so many months ago. Personally, I hope he makes a quick recovery and comes back (hopefully to the Sox, but if not, somewhere) for at least one more season. It's a pleasure to watch someone who takes the game seriously and appreciates all he has gotten from it.

      Posted by JPnMO July 31, 08 01:14 PM
    1. No one likes a sanctimonious blowhard. I understand that, I really do. And I understand, too, how hard it is to accept that Schilling is drawing $8 million from the Sox payroll without contributing one single pitch. But none of that is really the point here. None of that has to do with the content of Curt's comments about Manny.

      The real issue is whether Curt Schilling's comments about the Manny Ramirez situation are fair, insightful, and accurate. I believe they are all of those things. He has an insider's point of view that none of us has.

      Who among you would have the guts to take Manny Ramirez into a corner and give him a talking to? It takes courage and integrity to do that. I don't see anyone on the active roster holding Manny accountable.

      I'm not saying Curt is a saint, or that all his points of view are right. But don't attack everything he says just because it came from him. I believe he is right on this one.

      Posted by John S July 31, 08 01:16 PM
    1. Red Sox nation, don't be so blind. We are talking about an athlete (or athletes if you include Pedro) who make millions and act like baffoons. At the end of the day, what bearing does this have on your life? NOTHING!!! You work, you pay your bills, you deal with life's ups and downs, and if MAnny stays or goes, it will not have an affect on your daily lives. I have been a fan of the Red Sox since before the '75 World Series. Notice I said the Red Sox and not individual players. Enjoy the game, root for guys like Pedroia and Tek and Youk, guys who get it, and don't waste yor energy on guys like Manny or Pedro or Nomar, they proved they will quit at some point. Support the team because it will always be there, but individual players won't. As for Schilling, I respect him as a player and individual. Gave heart and soul, ala Pedroia and Youk and Tek, and even though he felt surgery was the better way to go with his shoulder, did as the organization asked. Let's not forget that the Red Sox organization had to decide if they felt he was a good risk, and they commited to that, with all their doctors and consultants in agreement. There is responsibility there for all to share. I also respect Schilling more for what he has done outside the game, for the community and charities. He and his wife have touched and made a lasting difference in so many more lives then athletic exploits ever will. As for Manny, laugh at him, he's a fool, only thinking of himself, and deserves nothing more then what a fool should get. He has a contract, shut up and honor it, and then see what happens at the end of the year. Either way, I will shut off the TV when the game is over and not give him another thought.

      Posted by Stuart July 31, 08 01:16 PM
    1. It's amazing, because Shilling is a conservative, that people on this post don't like him for speaking out. First of all, he is one of the oldest players on the team and when I was growing up, you respected your elders and what they had to say. Second of all, Shilling has spoken to Manny in the past, face to face, so it's not like he's going behind his back with this stuff. Third, he's correct in what he's saying: speaking the truth always is OK. Finally Anne Falcone, Bush has been a great President, keeping your sorry butt safe for all these years, show some respect for a great man.

      Posted by bbbrown July 31, 08 01:22 PM
    1. Schilling "Just shut up" the world of baseball does not evolve around Schilling.

      One thing to say is that the RED SOX office doesn't seem to amuse me??????? 3 times 3 profitable ball players ???? come one guys!

      Manny best of luck to you ! and *Bienvenido ah Miami *

      Posted by Joey July 31, 08 01:23 PM
    1. Schilling, for once, just once, keep your mouth closed!!

      Posted by Mateo July 31, 08 01:25 PM
    1. Bob
      maybe he has donated privately, how about that?remember when he gave ortiz his car on a whim? i don't think he cares about money.
      how would donations and charities affect anything about his personality? a lot of selfish athletes and all around jerks give money to charity....
      i agree that he should be shown the door, but let's keep an open mind to what some people consider private deeds

      Posted by neo July 31, 08 01:25 PM
    1. Regarding Shillings comments being " straight forward, accurate, candid" . "A great leader and all around guy"....? You must have all missed his testimony in the congressional review of steroid use....a real leader alright. Please.

      Posted by Nancy July 31, 08 01:30 PM
    1. Wow, a lot of anti-Schilling comments here. Sure, Manny contributed a lot to 2 WS championships and has put up numbers, but if that's the only criteria you use for evaluating your baseball heroes, you're as shallow as Manny is. The man has acted like a spoiled child for 8 years in this city.

      Schill is right to have issues with the way Manny and Pedro (great players both) shot their mouths off on the way out of town. Both players wanted money, and their way of trying to get it was to criticize management for not treating them well. GARBAGE! Both were babied in this town. Management did everything but cave to their desire for (their second) huge contracts. Manny needs to go!

      Posted by Ghost of Johnny Most July 31, 08 01:32 PM
    1. Incredible!!

      There is a 'new generation' of R.S. fans-- and God bless you-- that have no [Bleeping] idea of what we [old guys] went through for 50 years --- and then Theo goes to a thanksturkey dinner -- we have a stud [C.S.] win two W, Series [ runs Curt's #'s] ----and are you/we grateful!?!
      The guy {C.S} deserves our collective respect and gratitude--but if I have to explain - you're never going to understand.
      Manny : is the epitome of all that is wrong with spoiled jocks--albeit with great #'s
      ----Reread what C.S. says about Capt. V / Dustin--that's why we love our Sox.

      Posted by Robert Clendenning July 31, 08 01:38 PM
    1. I have to laugh at the Ramirez sycophants ad apologists who bash Schilling for speaking his mind - and telling the truth.

      It's that very attitude (both in the media, red Sox management and fan base) that has facilitated Ramirez's continued outrageous behavior. Some people are simply information-proof. To paraphrase a now famous line from the movies...."they can't handle the truth...."

      Simply put, Ramirez is an immature, self-absorbed and greedy "celebrity". He thinks he's infallible because he used to be able to hit a baseball better than anyone (not anymore). Most of the world (including his teammates and employer) has looked the other way as the media characterizes his chidish antics as "Manny being Manny".

      Well, I don't know about you, but where I live, physical assault is considered a felony. When Ramirez attacked the 64 year old Red Sox traveling secretary a line was crossed. He should have been FIRED then and there and placed under arrest.

      However, we live in a culture that dismisses accountability. From the White House to the Clubhouse, nobody is held accountable for their behavior. Red Sox ownership has demonstrated just what a bunch of chikensh*t whores they are by continuing to make excuses for this jackass clown.

      Talk about the tail wagging the dog.....

      Posted by bigfoot July 31, 08 01:42 PM
    1. Schilling's a blowhard schmuck. How many millions did he con the Sox out of after last year? Look forward to '09 when they'll both be gone. Loved Manny, don't any more. Never could stand over-opinionated big mouth 38.

      Posted by George M Gratto Jr July 31, 08 01:45 PM
    1. Schilling is an asinine moron

      Posted by John Stuart July 31, 08 01:51 PM
    1. Go Schill!! Nobody else in the organization has the cajones to say it.

      The Sox have pampered Petey and Manny and they got nothing but crap from those two overpaid prima donna crybabies on their way out of town. In all honesty, the "Manny being Manny" incident in Houston should have been the last straw. But ownership showed once again that they are gonna kowtow to this child just as long as he is in Boston.

      Question? Did Manny ever fund the Boston charity he set up years ago? Just wondered since Martinez never did. At least Nomah put his $$$$ where his good intentions were. So has Schill, and he continues to.

      Posted by dbmccaig July 31, 08 01:51 PM
    1. All you people crapping on Schilling here: are you serious? "He talking trash about 2 Hall of Fame players". Yeah, and 2 of the worst prim a donas to ever put on a Red Sox uniform. "He hasn't played a game this season." Does that negate the 4+ years he's been Manny's teammate. Say what you want about Schillings political beliefs, penchant for talking, etc, but anyone who disagrees with what he said about the Manny situation is either a severe Manny apologist, a complete buffoon, or both.

      Posted by John July 31, 08 01:56 PM
    1. A question for Bob Daly. Do you know for sure that the answer to your questions about Manny and charities is zero? How do you know? I'm not a Manny supported - I want the Sox to make the right baseball decision - not an emotional decision. I don't know what the right decision is, but as a long time sports fan, I trust the Sox management team, like I trust the Patriots. The Sox are in the drivers seat with his contract options, Don't make a rash decision.

      Keep Manny and charities out of it. Are you his accountant? Are you an accountant for all the local New England charities? Hey - I hope he has made donations - I just know I don't know the answer to that question. You can call him selfish about baseball items, but the best opinions are based in facts. Keep it to baseball - not off the field stuff that has no impact on the field.

      Posted by triple m July 31, 08 01:57 PM
    1. Curt Get's IT! Always Has... Show some respect you idiots who wanna trash mouth the best gamer ever in Red Sox history..... if it wasn;t for Schill Not one world series vistory ---Get That !!!!!

      Thank You Curt Schilling for all you have done for Red Sox Nation.

      As in Business and that what we are talking about .... Executives execute... Managers manage and players play (as long as the Executives and managers want you to, so players have to look out for them selves.. and their families)

      It's the cycle of sports, business and life.... born , live and die( go away) !!!

      Posted by Patriot Ed July 31, 08 01:57 PM
    1. In Boston it's called "Manny being Manny"

      In NY and elsewhere, it's called "Manny's a schmuck"

      Posted by Brendan Douglas July 31, 08 02:03 PM
    1. I'm guessing that the Manny apologists on this blog are just young and clueless.

      If Schilling hadn't come here, this team would still be waiting for it's first WS title since 1918.

      Schilling is right on the money, as usual. Manny has become a cancer. He's a firt class jerk, plain and simple. All the Manny apologists seem to forget how much money the Red Sox pay this man (and I use "man" loosely....more like a child).
      Hell, MannyNation even was trying to make excuses for the cowardly act of shoving a 64 year old man to the floor in the name of baseball tickets.

      Manny Ramirez no longer brings any value to this team. Instead he is infecting it. Does anyone really think that the Youkalis/Ramirez debacle in the dugout was just 2 guys letting off steam ? Hell no. My theory is this: Youkalis is a guy who busts his butt 100% of the time. This dugout skirmish occured after the brawl with Tampa Bay. I'm guessing Youkalis chastised Manny for taking his sweet time to get out and back up his teammates. Privately I think all of his teammates have had it with that clown. Youk just finally had enough and had the balls to tell Manny to his face.

      And I was once a Manny apologist.....but no more.

      The sooner that moron gets run out of town, the better.

      Posted by Gary July 31, 08 02:07 PM
    1. I'm really surprised by all of the negative comments about Schilling on this! I think it's so refreshing that Curt speaks his mind. And I'll forever look at him as a hero for his role in that championship season.

      Manny wants to be a free agent, so he's doing whatever he needs to do to reach that goal. He doesn't care about the fans, the team, his public image. He wants to be a free agent. He's a bum, time to let him go.

      Posted by Ed S. July 31, 08 02:08 PM
    1. To speak with such authority about the current Red Sox situation, shouldn't you either need to have managed the team or have played in a game this year? Schilling has done neither. When he officially becomes the team's media relations chairman or the team public relations spokesman, let me know. Until then, his word is nothing but rumor and innuendo. He should not be allowed to speak on behalf of the players who have suited up with Manny this year, for Tito, or for the Red Sox management. The best part of all of this silly soap opera is the fact that ownership is still so concerned with dollar signs and affixing price tags to every minute detail of the Red Sox brand name, that they haven't done what needed to be done: stand behind Francona and stand behind the integrity of the Red Sox tradition. Manny dogs it down to first base, shoves a 64 year employee to the ground, etc., and they never make a public statement for fear of disrupting the cash register. Root, root, root for the Bo$ton Red $ox! Please swipe your credit card in order to officially be designated as a fan...

      Posted by Hoss July 31, 08 02:11 PM
    1. Manny's gotta go!! He doesn't understand that there is no "I" in team. Like or dislike Curt Schilling he's closer to the situation than any of you bloggers. I don't think he speaks with forked tongue. You can't have a player telling you when he wants to play. He sat down on the Sox just like Nomar. Manny's time has come and gone. He needs to move on to another patsy.

      Posted by John A July 31, 08 02:14 PM
    1. It's laughable to read through some of the Curt bashing posts above. Clearly the wacko liberals here in New England are still irate that Curt isn't a pablum puking liberal so they feel the need to bash anything and everything that he has to say. Just goes to show you how completely closed minded liberals really are. If you don't agree with them they vilify you.

      It's sad that supposed open minded people feel that disagreement with one's opinion gives them the right to spew hatred and bile at them.

      Posted by KC July 31, 08 02:14 PM
    1. I'm confused by the attitude some people have towards Curt. Was he supposed to just walk and not try to rehabilitate? He WANTS to be pitching and HE wanted the surgery. It's the FO who decided he had to do therapy instead. What is the issue? Was Curt supposed to turn down his paycheck? I wouldn't! I have the utmost respect for Curt (except for his politics, but that's another story).

      Posted by JPnMO July 31, 08 02:18 PM
    1. Good to see Curt has found a way to try to make this about Curt.

      The idea that Curt is some straight shooter is the biggest myth in Boston sports. He spins everything to make him look better whether it is his steroids comments to the media that he refused to say under oath or his lies when someone said he didn't like Pedro .

      Posted by Darrell Hamzel July 31, 08 02:21 PM
    1. It amazes me that there are so many people out there who just want to keep the truth buried somewhere, like a child covering his ears and yelling so he won't hear bad news and can pretend it was never said.

      Curt Schilling puts relationships with current and former teammates on the line to inform us fans — maybe the most loyal in baseball — as best he can. So, he feels we deserve at least that. Is that a bad thing?

      Setting aside any any possible ire he's raised in the past, shouldn't he, at least, be commended for that?

      He may not have provided EVERY detail, but who else has?

      Curt, your candor is appreciated.

      Posted by Joe M July 31, 08 02:24 PM
    1. God bless Schill and his bloody sock and all, but you'd have to be nuts to get rid of Manny Ramirez. The guy is dynamite in World Series.

      Posted by Brook Wiers July 31, 08 02:25 PM
    1. I've always liked Schilling. He has been forthright and honest and a true Red Sox team player. He genuinely cares about the team and his teammates, and he and his wife are an asset to the Boston areas with their charitable work. For the poster of Comment #43, you just can't see the forest for the trees and seem to be taken in by the cartoon that Manny has become. I know. I, too, was a Manny apologist, but that's over. He has made the (premature) negotiation of a contract extension his top priority for the past few months. Instead of being an adult and waiting until the end of the season to sit down and talk with Red Sox management, he has morphed into a petulant child who wants what he wants NOW without concern for his teammates and their chances at a repeat Wolrd Series. So now all you see him do is and pout and complain. Oh, I forgot, he says he loves the fans of Boston. Right. Wake up Manny bandwagoneers!!

      Posted by jazzee July 31, 08 02:26 PM
    1. Typical liberal Redsox fan response. Attack the messenger. How quickly we forget . If it wasn't for Schilling, you would still be counting the years since the last Redsox worldseries championship!If your kid act like Manny what would you do? You people need to grow up. Many only cares about Many.

      Posted by JOHN GLOWKA July 31, 08 02:28 PM
    1. This has nothing to do with schilling. This is all about Manny being an ungrateful prick. I am sick of these pre-madonna type ball players who think they are bigger than the game. When is enough enoough? He is making 20 million dollars. Play ball and shut your whining cake hole. Next to Pedro he has to be the most insecure mindless piece of doo doo that I have even seen play for a boston team. I never thought he was as bad as TO but I now think he might be worse. ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME. There is no Me in Baseball. It's TEAM.

      Posted by employee # 8 July 31, 08 02:30 PM
    1. Great to hear #38 is available "in exchange for someone to give a five-figure donation to his charity, Curt's Pitch." Does Shill need a number to rehab? Never forget no "I" in team, 2 in Schilling. Nobody appreciates his opinion more than Curt himself.

      Posted by Bonehead July 31, 08 02:41 PM
    1. As a devoted sox fan, to me ,its about a group of guys working together to achieve a common goal, a Championship. My favorite players have always been guys who simply came to work and did their job like Bill Mueller, Mike Lowell, Jason Veritek, etc. Guys that respect the game, and its integrity. The amount of support they receive from the fans is valued. Manny doesnt fall into this category, PERIOD!!
      Unfortunately, todays ball players are more interested in the "All Mighty Dollar" and their few years of fame. They could care less about the average baseball fan and what their team means to them. Its all about me, me, me.
      All you have to do is take a look at Scott Boros` list of clients to see who I am speaking of.
      I would be in heaven if Tek, Youk, or Mikey will stick a boot in his $*#@% for me.

      Dont go away mad, just go away!!

      Posted by Jeff July 31, 08 02:44 PM
    1. Curt stole $8 millions from the Red Sox,he knows his career is over,"PERIOD",and he still says ,he will donate his # 38,he can shove it up his .........
      Manny is the Man,you people do the math.

      Posted by Ed Tapanes July 31, 08 02:49 PM
    1. It’s obvious that Curt Schilling doesn’t like Manny much, they had their differences but Schilling is just taking it too far by talking smack about Manny who is one of the greatest hitters. I guess he’s jealous because he’s not receiving enough attention or as much as Manny. If Manny is traded the Red Sox will loose alot of fans including myself.

      Posted by Keep Manny July 31, 08 02:50 PM
    1. I can't stomach Curt Schilling....

      While I will forever be grateful for his intrical role in the 2004 Championship, I find him to be the furthest thing from a team player. It has become painfully obvious that he is priming himself for a career as a broadcaster and/or sports reporter I think that is a wonderful second career for many atheletes; however, Curt Schilling puts Curt Schilling first. Have you Bostonians forgotten the bs of this past year? You mean to tell me he felt healthy enough to sign for the big bucks and then the reality of his injuries conveniently popped up? I am not saying Manny isn't in the wrong. Sadly, this organization is shaky and it makes me sad as a Red Sox fan...

      Posted by V-Gunns July 31, 08 02:56 PM
    1. thank god schill has a clue.

      all you people that wanna keep manny here are the same idiots that are gonna vote for barack obama and watch this country die.

      Posted by rivdog July 31, 08 02:59 PM
    1. Man. I appreciate Curt's candor. It is really refreshing. Say what you want about him but he was one of the main cogs in two WS championships. He also does a lot for his community and for charity. Manny has helped win championships but I can't remember him doing a thing for anyone else.

      Posted by danicro July 31, 08 03:03 PM
    1. Wow

      Red Sox fans all have an opinion and as much as I dislike Curts opinions on everything from politics to baseball he was a huge factor in our present day success and has every right to voice his opinion.

      Personally I skip all the journalists and go right to what Curt has to say simply because he is believable (as far as baseball goes).

      Be thankful for an honest insiders view, it is as close as you will get.

      Posted by Tom Nelson July 31, 08 03:05 PM
    1. You guys bashing Schill are morons. Mostly, he isn't throwing our his opinion. When he does offer opinion, it is certainly more informed than what you tools think. He saw the stuff go down.

      To say that he is inserting himself into this incident is ridiculous. He is the guys coworker.

      Posted by freshpond July 31, 08 03:14 PM
    1. As unpleasent as Manny has been the last few weeks, the Sox need to keep him. If he is traded away, who ever gets him will not keep him after this season. And that only leads to his signing in NY. We know the yankits will over pay for anyone, and Manny would be no exception. He is far from done. Manny has a few great years left. He may not get 40 -45 homers in a season anymore, but he's an RBI machine. And with mr. steriod, aka giambi, on a serious decline, Manny would undoubtedly be in the dreaded pin stripes by the end of January. What the Sox need to do is have Big Papi give him an attitude adjustment by beating the living Schizola outta him. And JH could make a little peace and annouce he's picking up his option for '09.

      Posted by Marty July 31, 08 03:15 PM
    1. Curt Schilling was a key figure in getting the Red Sox two WS championships. I don't care about what he says in his blog or his personal opinions about other players or Dubya. He came here to do a job and he did it, twice. He will always be a New England hero in my book. But Manny is a New England hero too, despite his immaturity. Thanks to them both for the WS trophies!

      Posted by BostonBest July 31, 08 03:27 PM
    1. This was a great interview. I enjoyed it and didn't find anything wrong with Schill's approach to any of the questions, simply put.

      Thanks, for that, Schill.

      Posted by DjM July 31, 08 03:30 PM
    1. Curt should take this years gift and fade into the sunset. Who cares what he thinks about anything.

      Posted by Thomas P. Lydon July 31, 08 03:30 PM
    1. Why all the animosity with Schilling here? He's articulate and not afraid to say what he thinks - nothing wrong with that. Our politics may be different, but I respect his insights into baseball........AND I think he's been the most forthright in this whole Manny situation. Interesting that he noted a probable Boras influence here...I had been thinking that Manny didn't come up with this "creative" strategy on his own.

      Maybe Boras should have reminded Manny that Sox fans don't like hearing about staff being roughed up, get really upset when they see him strolling to first and don't like egos getting in the way of performance.

      Posted by Mike July 31, 08 03:31 PM
    1. It's amazing to read all the comments by the dimwits criticizing CS.

      Posted by Don July 31, 08 03:37 PM
    1. Curt is going to have a comment on many aspects of the sox, as he always does. Plus, he has nothing to lose, he's getting payed and he's ready to release his number to Jason Bay. The bottom line is this, Manny is a great hitter. He is also hard to love and hard to dislike. The lose of him batting after Papi is not only painful to think about but probably more if I see him batting on another team. I would only hope that the top brass sits down with him and they have a face to face and air out all the laundry. This BS of him not giving 100% really sucks. I and my 2 sons love him to death when he's zeroed in at the plate, we laugh at the missed balls in the outfield and enjoy the great chemistry with Ortiz. But if I have to watch a 36 year old millionaire complain about money and look like he is miserable playing for the Red Sox ,one more game, I'm ready to see him off.
      Regrettably!

      Posted by Ken July 31, 08 03:41 PM
    1. #96 ...Tek is a Boras client.

      Posted by dave July 31, 08 03:43 PM
    1. Perhaps Curt can someday tell us what the attraction is to Scott Boras. I understand it's all about money, but my impression of Varitek and some of the others is that they are much higher class than Boras and it surprises me that they'd associate with him. As soon as I hear someone has signed with Boras, I get uneasy and question the players integrity. Everyone is entitled to make all the money they can/want, but at what point is it ridiculous? Grown men play with bats and balls and for this they're worth millions of dollars? The world is truly nuts. Sports figures do NOT deserve this kind of money and it's a pathetic statement on this country's priorities when they are worth more than police, firemen or teachers.

      Posted by JPnMO July 31, 08 03:47 PM
    1. Mike Felger rightly said that Schilling always seems to be vocal about his thoughts when that's the thought of the month! Take a hard stance, Schill!!
      Now when the crowd is predominantly against Manny, he says Manny is playing dirty - duh! yeah!! Where were you before this? Being a member of the clubhouse one can be sure that he'd know more than any one of us or the media.
      And I agree with a lot of folks here, Schill has no business to comment on Manny. Manny at least PLAYED for a few games. What did Schill do?? Sit on his big fat ass and get $8M!!

      Posted by Nate July 31, 08 03:50 PM
    1. Who gives a crap what The Shill has to say? I mean, who really gives a crap?

      Posted by Kevin Fitz July 31, 08 03:51 PM
    1. Oh its Schillling with his outspoken mouth again, although I think Schill had a few great years in Boston get over yourself. You ended up a problem more than Manny did. The fact of the matter is, Manny had 8 great years in Boston and will go down as a Boston legend and Schill will not (although he had a few good years, 1 great). Schill never liked Manny because they clash and are total opposite personalities. Yes, Schill has donated a lot of money to charity which is great, but please Schill stuff a bloody sock in it will ya..

      Posted by BC July 31, 08 03:52 PM
    1. Good for Schill....he tells it like it is and I will always respect him for that. He would never give up on the team like Nomar and Manny. Schill deserves every penny he is getting this year even if he never throws another pitch. I'm so tired of athletes making more money in a year than 90 percent of us will make in a lifeteime crying and whining,. Manny isn't at peace with his situation? 168 million would sure make me feel at peace. Next time he "jogs" out a grounder maybe he should think about just how fortunate he has been.

      Posted by Ed Shea July 31, 08 03:57 PM
    1. For someone to insinuate that Curt knows nothing about the current situation because he hasn't played this year is totally ridiculous. Curt was with the team earlier in the season and he's been around Manny for years. He knows the dynamics of the clubhouse and is the only player who tries to share this with the fans. I appreciate his taking the time to share his viewpoints with us.

      For those of you who hate Curt so much, why do you bother reading his blog? It makes no sense. Your jealousy is showing.

      Posted by JPnMO July 31, 08 04:02 PM
    1. I have to say that there are some sorry individuals that just don't care about baseball or people who are commenting here. Comment # 25 is just plain stupid! "Even Gammons himself has said Ortiz-Ramirez may be the best 3-4 lineup in the history of baseball. Think about that statement before you go Manny hating." First of all, it has nothing to do with his damn talent...the guy is an ass. No one disputes he's a great hitter. But that's all he is. I can't image that there are people who don't care how he acts on and off the field and are OK with what we've seen from this clown. He's never going to play his heart out for 1 more game with this team so let it go! And another comment said we never would have won either World Series without him....oh really, did he pitch 9 innings too...give me a damn break or get your head some sunshine or something. He's had 1 walk-off winner with Boston in all his time here....take a look at the other stats before posting something that obviously means nothing at all. BYE MANNY!

      Posted by Hunter July 31, 08 04:03 PM
    1. Look in the mirror Schilling!

      Who came to this team so fat and out of shape, yet always has something to say about other coaches and team mates.

      He's an overweight has been. Go back to AZ.

      Posted by Bubs July 31, 08 04:09 PM
    1. WAIT A MINUTE RED SOX NATION! Schilling may open his mouth when he should stay quiet sometimes but he is a LEADER in the clubhouse. When healthy you can count on him to take the mound every fifth day. Did he quit on the Red Sox? Yeah he is collecting 8 million this year wihtout throwing a pitch this year. You know what-he deserves it! Let's call it a thanks for helping bring two World Series trophies to beantown. I hope he comes back next year to replace Buchholz who needs another year in Pawtucket. Manny is finished playing for the Sox trade or no trade. He has made that quite clear the last few days. I plan on buying a road Ramirez jersey when they go on sale and have the name Evans placed over Ramirez! Dewey Evans a true Red Sox! Thank you Manny for your past performance the last few years but it's time to say goodbye.

      Posted by Tony July 31, 08 04:19 PM
    1. How come no one knows how to spell PRIMADONNA?
      Pre-Madonna is A-Rod's ex-wife.
      Schilling's biggest flaw is that he's a Bush-loving Republican, not that he has a big mouth. He can say whatever he wants about baseball. Does no one remember 2004??!!

      Looks like Manny's with us for rest of the season. Sox won't even make the playoffs if they don't start pitching and hitting. Who'd have thought the Angels would become our Daddy? GO PATRIOTS!

      Posted by David Sobel July 31, 08 04:22 PM
    1. Told by Curt exactly as it is, as diplomatically and indirectly as possible. What needs to happen is a team leader such as, V Tec or Lowell needs to set him straight for the last time. Handle this the way it should be handled in the clubhouse. Manny has disrespected the team and the fans for the last time. He’s the reason for the low morale in the clubhouse and something has to change ASAP! Tell it like it is Curt! Nobody likes it when the truth hurts. Going forward this behavior will no longer be tolerated.

      Posted by Joe July 31, 08 04:23 PM
    1. why do we still allow hiim on the radio?? I'm sorry curt, but honestly your opinion in this situation, much like other situations, don't matter to me. The Sox should have picked up his option at the beginning of the season and all of this BS would have been avoided. The front office is just as much to blame for the distraction as manny is.

      And now we're talking about trading one of the best hitters in the history of the game for cents on the dollar. BTW, CURT, manny has gotten the opposite of the good end of the stick from the media. read anything dan shaughnessy has ever written. YOU my friend, are the one getting the medias good graces. They really need to tell you to shut up, but they dont

      Posted by nick July 31, 08 04:27 PM
    1. Okay is this a problem with Latin players?? How come nobody is mentioning that Johnny Damon,Derek Lowe also had issues with management!! All we are hearing about is Pedro?? Additionally, without the public outcry and World Series MVP Mike Lowell would likely be in another uniform today!! So lets take some of the blame off Manny and put some on the Sox brass as well. Schilling has his blog to give his opinions, he doesn't need to air clubhouse issue to the public, especially on Dennis and Callahan who are already anti-MANNY. In no way am I giving Manny a pass (he's gotten enough passes) but this is a shared issue in which both parties involved are to blame.

      Posted by Swizzy July 31, 08 04:31 PM
    1. Hi Curt,

      Thank You for the 2 rings. We appreciate it.

      You are the best.


      Tom In South Portland Maine

      Posted by Tom Blais July 31, 08 04:38 PM
    1. Why are so many conservatives claiming anyone that says anything bad about Schilling must be liberal? Stop acting like you are in 8th grade - grow up ! This is one of the many reasons we got our clock cleaned in the 2006 election and we will lose to Obama and lose even more house and senate seats in 2008. Wake up fellow conservatives. When someone disagrees with you it isn't always political. And for the love of God STOP grasping on to the handful of PATHETIC celebrities that call themselves conservative - Schilling, Coulter, O'Reilly etc.... ALL MORONS - with these people as the face of conservatism is it any wonder the Republican party is where it is right now ?

      Posted by CJ July 31, 08 04:42 PM
    1. Schilling has total class, Manny very little, any pro atheletes that shove around old men are total SCUM. Oklahoma had a RB Marcus DuPree. Greatest talent who ever lived. Totally into himself. We got rid of him (or he left) and 2 or 3 years latere. Another National Champ. Players from that team told me his special treatment ruined the TEAM as DuPree was only about himself.

      Posted by G. D. Williams July 31, 08 05:05 PM
    1. Yet another mistake by Boston... Next we'll be trading Big Papi for the dodgers bat boy. :P this has epic fail written all over it.

      Posted by William July 31, 08 05:22 PM
    1. Manny's a great hitter, but a lousy human being. I think Schilling has him pegged, and I'm happy to see Ramirez on the other side of the country. Here's hoping the clubhouse recovers quickly.

      Posted by pat ackroyd July 31, 08 05:23 PM
    1. People who support the crap that Schilling spews out are incomprehensible. The guy has an opinion on everything, and he really thinks that everyone should care what he thinks. He is the biggest loudmouth in the game.
      Why do we continually listen to this fool? He's a has-been. An over-the-hill Talking Machine, who cannot stand to not have his face and his voice in the news as often as possible.
      What has he done baseball-wise the last two years? Absolutely nothing! Let's stop making it seem like Schilling is a viable and integral part of the Red Sox. Shut him off. Turn the channel. Stuff a sock in it!

      Posted by dansdad69 July 31, 08 05:24 PM
    1. It's stunning to see how many mean, ignorant comments are being posted about the pitcher who brought Boston it's first WSC in decades, but I guess Boston has more than her share of ignorant opinionators. You all are truly without class. Anyone who has such distaste for someone like Schilling is just showing more than we need to see about himself/herself . Trust me, it ain't pretty.

      Posted by Melinda July 31, 08 05:26 PM
    1. Uh, Jeff?

      Tek -- Salt of the Earth, do gooder, friend to the people -- his agent? Scott Boras.

      Posted by jayb July 31, 08 05:29 PM
    1. I can't believe the Red Sox traded Manny!! Way for Schilling to berate his brother. I guess a conservative Rebulican white boy wouldn't have much to do with people like Manny, unless they were forced to play on the same team. The loss will be to the Red Sox and the fans. He's a great player and makes loads of money, why shouldn't he have a bit of an ego? Seems like the old Red Sox, making dumb trades. Good luck to Manny and thanks for helping to win 2 world series.

      Posted by Sharon July 31, 08 05:33 PM
    1. Maybe we should have gotten rid of big mouth Schilling...At least Manny is being productive for the team this year. I think the media made this deal go sour. They are the ones who decided he was unhappy here, not Manny. I am very said to see him go. It looks like Boston Fans loose the opportunity to have him go to the Hall of Fame as a Red Sox player.

      Manny has his sense of humor intact -- and you rarely see him ditch other players as he is ditched. He seemed fun to have around the club house. We can't say Schilling is fun -- If Schilling hadn't spent so much time blogging and ditching others - he may have been in better shape for the season.

      Manny entered the season in shape and was ready to play and was on track to break 100 RBI for the season. So much for team play and if we loose the season we deserver to loose it...Manny is right we don't deserver a player like him. Even if he was asking for a long contract extension, Red Sox management should have let him finish the season here. I hope we do not experience another 86 year drought for make a bad decision.

      Posted by Michelle from Waltham July 31, 08 05:39 PM
    1. Curt was/is dead wrong about George W Bush, the worst president in American history. But he is absolutely correct about Manny, an ongoing disgrace to the game of baseball. I would have benched Manny until he agreed to play the game correctly--all the time--even if it jeopardized Red Sox pennant chances. The idea of benching this spoiled dolt--who has taught too many kids a perverted philosophy of competition, sportsmanship, and and team loyalty--horrified Dennis and Callahan and their "win-at-all-costs" apologists. The lesson that the end never justifies the means must be championed at all times, or the Mannys of this world will become to sports what the "swift boaters" are becoming to politics.

      Posted by Jack Maguire July 31, 08 05:45 PM
    1. Funny stuff. While I'm glad that the Manny show is finally over, I'll be equally as happy when the Schilling show rolls out of town. Comment # 89 pretty much nails it.
      Both have been great players, both are well past their prime. One never talked to the media, the other can't shut up. It's all business.

      I love that Curt goes on EEI with the Hannity wannabees in the morning, that's a match made in GOP heaven. The two biggest candy a$$ radio frauds, who loved Bush, now love McCain. Just like Curt.

      Posted by Rob July 31, 08 05:54 PM
    1. I think it's hilarious how many people go out of their way to read and listen to Schilling's opinions, and then turn around and crap on him for giving them. Frankly, I find it refreshing that there's one player out there who will actually say that Manny's a jerk, that Pedro's a jerk, etc. Face it, both of them are/were unbelievable players, but they were pretty much horrible teammates. Sometimes I don't agree with what Schilling says, but I respect him for having the guts to say what he thinks in a relatively articulate way. If Manny had two brain cells to rub together, he'd have realized how amazingly well he was treated here in Boston (the fans, the media, the Sox brass, Tito Francona, and his teammates put up with a LOT of his crap - to a fault, in fact) and that the Sox were under NO obligation to decide on his contract until after the season. I'm so sick of prima donna athletes (especially the two Dominican Divas, Pedro and Manny) signing contracts and then, when it gets close to contract time again, wanting out. Memo to Pedro and Manny: Nobody feels bad for you - you aren't getting screwed. Grow up and live by the terms of the contract that YOU signed. The only thing that keeps Schilling off the field is an injury, and sometimes even that's not enough, as evidenced by the Bloody Sock performance. He shows up for team pictures and charity events, he respects the fans, he's open with the media, and he gives back to the community. I don't know how much more you can ask for. Sure, he may have a lot to say, but at least you know where the guy stands, and at least he has the guts to call a guy out when he's acting like a jerk.
      So long, Manny. Thanks for helping us win 2 World Series. If you'd really cared about the game, I can't even imagine how good you might have been. As it stands, we'll never know, and I, for one, don't care. I'm glad they shipped you out of town, not because I wanted you to get your wish (I think you've been given more than enough in your life, and shown absolutely no gratitude for any of it), but because I don't like you, I don't respect you, and I don't want you on my team. I'd rather take my chances with guys like Varitek, Pedroia, Lowell and Lester - even if they come up short - than win another World Series with you.

      Posted by Aaron July 31, 08 05:56 PM
    1. Glad to see him go.It will be worth it ,if,in the long run if Ramirez is the last temperamental ballplayer THAT IS ALLOWED TO INTIMIDATE A COACHING STAFF.

      PLEASE MANAGEMENT, SAY NEVER AGAIN, WILL WE ALLOW A PLAYER FREE REIGN TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR OVERALL ABILITIES.

      Posted by BILL July 31, 08 05:56 PM
    1. So basically what we have here is a broken down 40 year old, ex-great ballplayer who does nothing now but collect checks telling a soon to be 40 year old ex-great ballplayer he doesn't have to right to collect checks. I mean I absolutely understand the reason why the Sox were reluctant to negotiate a new deal for Manny - they don't to be stuck in the same situation they are with Shilling. Bottom line, no Manny - no broken curse

      Posted by nate July 31, 08 06:00 PM
    1. Manny will mean more to Boston fans than Schilling ever will .. when theyre both retired, Manny will be considered a Red Sox player and Curt an Arizona Diamondback .. Curt wouldve been better served pitching for a team in the Red State Bible belt .... the fans loved manny, the media loved the opportunity to jump down his throat .. what was simple contract positioning snowballed into a media firestorm thanks to the obviously officially now grouchy-old-man Dan S.. 'these damned kids and their ipods.. in my day we banged sticks for music' .. if it wasnt for Manny, we would still be staring at the bottom of an empty beer glass muttering about The Curse .. from a fan point of view, how can you get excited about Schilling, JD Drew, and Jason Bay .. we might as well bring Trot back .. and collect for the Republican campaign during the 7th inning stretch .. I like Jason Bay, and appreciate that at least we got something for Manny .. but the team is now entirely less colorful, enjoyable, and is lacking the feel that made it so special the past several years ..

      Posted by adam July 31, 08 06:01 PM
    1. Schilling is a Hall of Famer and has every right to his opinion, well-informed as he is. Manny not only attacked a 64 yr old member of Sox management, HE QUIT ON THE TEAM! That's not "Manny being Manny", that's a QUITER. There is no (crying or) quitting in baseball.

      Have a nice time in Dodgerville, Manny. You are a quitter. Good riddence.

      Posted by Teddynsyer July 31, 08 06:16 PM
    1. Schilling is a stand up guy. He tells you what HE thinks, not what you would like to hear. Will the Dodgers insist he cut that ridiculous mop of hair or will they let "Manny be Manny"? He became an embarrassment ! He is agreat hitter and I enjoyed him at the plate, however enough is enough! Let the RED SOX move on.

      Posted by CharlieDP July 31, 08 06:16 PM
    1. Goodbye Manny...go YANKEES

      Posted by Mary Ann P July 31, 08 06:17 PM
    1. Here's to Manny being someone else's problem. Good luck pulling that crap in LA with Torre.

      You can only do so much to please someone who can't be pleased.

      Good on Schill for telling it like it is.

      Posted by Red Sox Fan July 31, 08 06:21 PM
    1. "Bush has been a great President, keeping your sorry butt safe for all these years, show some respect for a great man." Posted by bbbrown July 31, 08 01:22 PM

      You are entitled to your opinion, but that is one of the most ignorant statements ever made on this board. And there have been some dumb ones. :(

      Posted by Phil July 31, 08 06:22 PM
    1. Schilling is a Hall of Famer and has every right to his opinion, well-informed as he is. Manny not only attacked a 64 yr old member of Sox management, HE QUIT ON THE TEAM! That's not "Manny being Manny", that's a QUITER. There is no (crying or) quitting in baseball.

      Have a nice time in Dodgerville, Manny. You are a quitter. Good riddence.

      Posted by Teddynsyer July 31, 08 06:23 PM
    1. Goodbye Manny.....Go YANKEES!!!

      Posted by Nomare July 31, 08 06:23 PM
    1. fuck you theo you piece of shit

      Posted by fuck you July 31, 08 06:25 PM
    1. Schil is AWESOME ! It's nice to hear someone call a spade a spade.

      Posted by Richard July 31, 08 06:26 PM
    1. Kurt - You are a dick. Go hang out with your buddy George W.

      Posted by Chris July 31, 08 06:26 PM
    1. The negative comments toward Schilling are not because of what he is saying, I suspect. But because he is saying stuff in public, on the radio, at length, about the team's business. I love what the guy did for this team - and I have been a Sox fan since 1966. But who would want this kind of talk on the radio about their business or organization? Schlil IS a bigmouth - even if what comes out is truth.

      The sad fact is - Manny being Manny has gone over a line and his career in Boston has ended as a result of it. Let's move on.

      Posted by hazbin July 31, 08 06:30 PM
    1. It's been swell, but the swelling's gone down.

      I've been tired of Manny's drama for a LONG time now. We'll miss his bat, but not his lack of professionalism. I just hope the nano-second his bags are packed he won't bad mouth the fans, the team, & the front office right down to the popcorn vendors at the park. I'm not impressed that he and many other players act badly when they're role models and heroes to so many.

      Time to cheer the new guy, just like I cheered Manny. Every game is a TEAM effort, not just one guy doing it all. We've got some great players on this team! I'll be sorry to see Brandon and Craig go, as I would've liked to see them make strides in a Sox uniform.

      Manny - we ALL gotta grow up sometime...it's your turn now!

      Posted by Marie July 31, 08 06:30 PM
    1. Curt Schilling has guts and class. Not afraid to talk to Manny straight to his face and not afraid to tell it like it is. He says what 90% of the clubhouse thinks but is too afraid to say. This is the pitcher who brought us our first world series even though it may/did shorten his career. He was at his best when it mattered the most. Manny is lazy, selfish and inconsiderate. We all know its true. But the guy can hit so we always look away and excuse him with the lame defense of "Manny being Manny."

      Thanks Curt for coming to Boston and leading this team to 2 World Championships!

      Posted by Dan July 31, 08 06:30 PM
    1. I think Schilling's comments are right on, and I for one appreciate his candor. If Ramirez gave one-tenth the effort that Curt, Pedroia and Varitek give, this never would've become an issue. Jason Bay will be a good ballplayer for years to come and the guy always hustles. Good move for the Red Sox.

      And as long as this supposedly sports forum gets hit with political comments, please let me disagree with the comment that George Bush was the worst president. That "honor" goes to the grinning peanut farmer from Georgia who presided over unparalleled high inflation, a stagnant economy, hostages in Iran, and who rubs elbows with terrorist organizations like Hamas.

      Posted by Jim July 31, 08 06:31 PM
    1. Curt Schilling has guts and class. Not afraid to talk to Manny straight to his face and not afraid to tell it like it is. He says what 90% of the clubhouse thinks but is too afraid to say. This is the pitcher who brought us our first world series even though it may/did shorten his career. He was at his best when it mattered the most. Manny is lazy, selfish and inconsiderate. We all know its true. But the guy can hit so we always look away and excuse him with the lame defense of "Manny being Manny."

      Thanks Curt for coming to Boston and leading this team to 2 World Championships!

      Posted by Dan July 31, 08 06:33 PM
    1. Manny's a great hitter, but a lousy human being. I think Schilling has him pegged, and I'm happy to see Ramirez on the other side of the country. Here's hoping the clubhouse recovers quickly.

      Posted by pat ackroyd July 31, 08 06:40 PM
    1. What a great day to be a Yankee fan!!! Thank you "Theo the Former Genious" and the rest of the incompetent sux management!!!

      Keep up the good work Shildo, stir the pot!! With Mannybeing gone it's all your team now!!!!

      Posted by Steve Balboni July 31, 08 06:42 PM
    1. A good day for the Red Sox. Maybe Hansen will turn out to be a star, maybe Moss will too. But, now the team has what it has been trying to build for years, all players playing the "Red Sox Way." I loved watching Manny when he felt like playing and got on a roll. But he so often plays like the child he is. It was humiliating as a fan sitting there in Anaheim two weeks ago and watching that ridiculous attempt at a catch as the ball got caught under him and he just laughed. Then, you watch Pedroia, Youkilis, Lowell, 'Tek, JD Drew all play their hearts out. They deserve a teammate that plays like them. We got a potentially great player in Jason Bay - good power, much better defense, solid RBIs - in his fourth season. Got younger again. And we'll save over $12 million for next year. The best solution we could expect.

      Posted by Michael July 31, 08 06:42 PM
    1. I hope you all are happy. As you kiss Manny good-bye, you do know you are kissing the pennant good bye, not to mention saying hello to another 86 or whatever years. All you had to do was give the man some respect but no, couldn't be bothered. I don't know why it was so hard for you all to "get" Manny except that you didn't try. It was easier for you (media and Sox fans) to hide behind "Manny being Manny" than to try to understand what made him tick. Your loss, folks. Be careful for what you wish.

      And by the way, Schilling is a self centered narcissistic kid. He should grow up; he has a lot to learn from Manny if he weren't so arrogant.

      Posted by baileyislandgirl July 31, 08 06:43 PM
    1. Manny's an idiot. I'm glad he's gone!!

      Posted by Ray L Hutchinson July 31, 08 06:44 PM
    1. WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE........... PUNCH SCHILLING IN THE FACE!!!! HE'S NOT EVEN PITCHING AND HE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY. WOULD LOVE IF MGMT WOULD FINE HIM FOR SHOOTING HIS G*D DAMN MOUTH OFF AGAIN ABOUT SOMETHING HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT!!!

      Posted by JR July 31, 08 06:45 PM
    1. If Manny ever pushed my 61 year old father I would kick his greedy butt. So long you classless horse's ass.

      Posted by Jeff July 31, 08 06:45 PM
    1. I disagree with Schilling's politics but love his honesty. He talks but he's a guy who backed it up. Literally bled for the team. Thanks Schill.

      Too bad people didn't say this stuff up front to Pedro and Manny the first time they pulled this crap. Maybe things would have ended differently.

      Posted by coach July 31, 08 06:45 PM
    1. Sayonara, Manny. Honestly, the guy is an unbelievable hitter. He's also an unbelievable jerk. So, Manny will be a free agent at the end of the season. I can't imagine any organization putting up with the stuff the Red Sox put up with in this decade and paying millions for the honor. I'm sure somebody will, but I'm sure glad it isn't us anymore.

      Now that this infection has been cleared out of the locker room, the Red Sox can go back to playing and winning games.

      Posted by Deb Della Piana July 31, 08 06:47 PM
    1. Great post Aaron, couldnt have said it better. Good luck in LA Manny not that you really care but you will never see the world series again I hope you and Scott Boras make all the money in the world together. The True Redsox fans will be watching THE TEAM go on with out you. Congratulations to Francona Epstien and Redsox organization for making the right decision and thank you.

      Posted by The Patriot July 31, 08 06:47 PM
    1. Listen, you bleeding hearts..........Get off Schiling's case!!!
      His account of all this is what we fans seek to hear in the first place! This is an accurate account of the INSIDE feelings in the locker room and in his teammates' heads......an insight we rarely ever get reported, and a QUOTED insight at that!
      My friends, Schillings explanation is RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!!
      Good ridence, Manny, but best of luck with the Dodgers.

      Posted by D Tashjian July 31, 08 06:48 PM
    1. Adios Manny. Now let's get back to playing baseball. We will now see whether Ortiz is really for real or not--without Manny behind him. This is still a solid club and better off than they were yesterday. Right on, Curt.

      Posted by peter July 31, 08 06:48 PM
    1. "Bush has been a great President, keeping your sorry butt safe for all these years, show some respect for a great man." Posted by bbbrown July 31, 08 01:22 PM

      You are entitled to your opinion, but that is one of the most ignorant statements ever made on this board. And there have been some dumb ones. :(

      Posted by Phil July 31, 08 06:49 PM
    1. curt is RACIST!!! He doesnt like latino player... i.e. pedro and manny two hall of famer! pls give me a break
      indeed, you are curt... (who???)

      Posted by abelardo July 31, 08 06:49 PM
    1. Am I the only one who thinks this whole Manny thing is so overblown? Where talking about Manny here. Who else makes calls in left field? Who else has the best excuses for missing time? Why is everybody surprised he wanted out? I am thankful he was here for the years he was. And if he wants out now, let him go. But to blame him for the teams poor play lately is wrong. Where is the pitching? Where is the timely hitting? The team is just not playing well right now. Where was #38's comments during the teams last 3 bad series? And he cares about the team? He could of talked to the media and said he wish he could help the team out now or anything like that. But not Mr. Perfect...he knows what's right for everybody. especially himself. Do us a favor Curt, retire and go write for your hometown paper. Let's Go Red Sox!!

      Posted by Derek July 31, 08 06:49 PM
    1. Kurt - You are a dick. Go hang out with your buddy George W.

      Posted by Chris July 31, 08 06:49 PM
    1. GOOD RIDDANCE TO MANNY THE WHINER

      Manny should've been thrown away 5 years ago.

      Posted by Soxfan July 31, 08 06:50 PM
    1. Great post Aaron, couldnt have said it better. Good luck in LA Manny not that you really care but you will never see the world series again I hope you and Scott Boras make all the money in the world together. The True Redsox fans will be watching THE TEAM go on with out you. Congratulations to Francona Epstien and Redsox organization for making the right decision and thank you.

      Posted by The Patriot July 31, 08 06:51 PM
    1. It always amazes me that Mr. "Born Again Christian" Curt Shilling is always in a position to judge people. It is people like him that give true Christian believers a bad name. All I can do is pray for him. He will be judged one day also. Not by the press or the fans, but by God. " Let he that is without sin cast the first stone"

      Posted by T. James July 31, 08 06:51 PM
    1. Great Post Aaron True Redsox fans and true baseball fans know that the organization made the right move in getting rid of this selfish nut case we will miss his God givin ability but Id rather see a bad player try his hardest then manny dog it up 1st again and again. Hey Michelle in response to ur post Curt Schilling is hurt because he risked his health and career to help us win a world series. When has manny risked anything? your nuts!

      Posted by The Patriot July 31, 08 06:52 PM
    1. Bye bye Manny, Thanks for the memories. Sometime down the road you will look back and wish you had stayed with the Sox. Too bad you don't appreciate when things are good. The Sox have coddled your arrogant ass for the last few years because you were so good. Hope life of the left coast, far away from the so-called horrors of Boston gives you peace. As for Schilling speaking his piece at least you know where he stands. I can't stand mealy mouth wannabes, just look at all the sorry arse democrats whining and crying. Things are moving along pretty well and all they can cry about is the same old crap. WMDs, the Iraqi war, and global warming, give me a break, over 200 inches of snow this past winter sounds like the earth is really heating up. Sounds like the only thing heating up is the left-handed cigarettes Al Bore and Howard the idiot are smoking. Two fine examples of educated stupidity. I hope Schill gets healthy and puts a Red Sox uniform again. He is one of the best big time players ever. At least he appreciates what he has and how to play the game

      Posted by Steve July 31, 08 06:53 PM
    1. I'm a Cardinals fan.

      Posted by Ben July 31, 08 06:59 PM
    1. Manny may be good in the World Series, but he hasn't done anything lately to help us get there. He's been slacking and he has not been good for team morale. If he's going to be a jerk and not give 110%, good riddance. Pedroia, Youk, and Tek, these guys would cut off their left nut for the Sox and we need more players like that. As for Curt; yeah, the guy WAS a great pitcher and demands respect, but he is WAY past his prime. Cut him loose and save his salary for younger talent.

      Posted by Kross July 31, 08 07:01 PM
    1. Schilling gives it to you straight once again. As for Schilling not giving Manny respect; did you guys read the same interview that I read? Schilling gave Manny all the kudos possible for his playing ability. Manny is a great player, and the Sox are sure to miss his bat, but I doubt the management would have traded him if his attitude hadn't become such a negative.

      And remember this about Schilling:
      1) He came to Boston by choice, explicitly rejecting overtures from the Yankees. I believe he said back in 2003 that he didn't care about being part of the Yankees championship tradition, but would rather start a new championship tradition in Boston - Mission accomplished. Manny has made it clear he could care less about playing for the Red Sox throughout his time here.
      2) Schilling always played hard and played hurt, even when it threatened his career. Manny is the consummate slacker.
      3) As for Schilling rehabbing for $8 million, he followed managements wishes and it didn't work out.

      Finally, just imagine how great Manny and Pedro could have been if they played with the same heart as Schilling. Sure Manny will be in the HOF, but he could have been a legend. As much as I was disappointed that Johnny Damon went back on his promise to never play for the Yanks, you have to give it to that guy. He played all out every day, and still does. At least I respect him. Manny has wasted so much talent and good will, its really quite sad.

      Posted by Brian McManus July 31, 08 07:03 PM
    1. SCHILLING on Manny?!?!!!!?!!??!

      The guy who signed a contract for a bundle, and then went out for the season??!?!!!!?!!??!

      He should know about guys wearing out their welcome.
      Spend your bundle of cash well, Curt. You wore out your welcome on me two whole years ago.

      Posted by Joan July 31, 08 07:05 PM
    1. The real problem is the semi intelligent at least with computers the Brookline bright boy Theo. He lived off the team dan duquette develloped and claimed the first World tile was his, even the second one was tainted with D. duquette players. Now he only has two more to get rid of Varitek and wakefield. When do we get rid of him and that stupid Republiocan schilling and his phoney piety. Remember that callahan was the cause in his high school years of chelmsford losing a state title because calla han was caught cheating. I hope Manny comes out here to LA and hits 400 and slugs 20 more home runs. remember Theo does not like players that upstage him like derek Lowe Pedro and Nomar and Johnny damon. No indidviduality allowed in boston. Now we Jason Bay to go along with JD DRew and Becklett. Of course Youkalis can throw all the bats he wants because he does not realize that baseball is still a game .I have been a Red sox Fan since before Ted Williams 1937to be ezact but theo is testing my patienceand perhaps schilling will talk about the worst Prsident in american history and all his gang Cheny Rove the neocons who got us in this stupid war and never fought a abattle except with marshmallos. I never thought I would yeard for Trickey ndick nixon or Yaz and Vaughn but !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PJM

      Posted by Paul of the Desert July 31, 08 07:09 PM
    1. Note the photo at the top of this list of comments. Does someone that is a real team player and wants to talk some sense into his teammate do it with all the cameras out and on the field or quietly somewhere out of the limelight. Schilling was a very good pitcher, but he definitely is an egotistical blowhard. There is talking about being a good teammate and there is being a good teammate. Manny's teammates seemed to love the guy until recently. Manny is clearly no angel, but the fact remains that that in the long view Red Sox seem to continue to have trouble dealing with their black and hispanic players. It never should have come to this, and Manny and his agent don't seem to be the only cause. In the short view reports indicate that the Red Sox brass were not united on this, and when the bosses aren't on the same page, often chaos results.

      Manny was a unique ballplayer. Maybe one of the best hitters that ever lived. He was not the best hustling runner or fielder, but if he pulled a quad the other night in a meaningless endgame and couldn't hit the next day, that would not have been in the Red Sox interest.

      One more thing. Nomar was on a tear and was the top hitter for the Sox when they started their move. It is a myth that they went on a tear after he was traded. He was also a great player and Manny has a point that Nomar seemed to get slagged unnecessarily before and after he went.

      Posted by notaschillingfan July 31, 08 07:10 PM
    1. Curt Schilling has a big fat mouth (AGAIN!) ---- It’s a shame that we can’t pencil him into a pending trade. His only strong point is expounding his clueless arrogance and open degradation of his own teammates in front of the media. He is far more damaging to the Sox organization than a (lovable) nutbag like Manny ever could be.

      Hey guys! This isn’t brain surgery; this is baseball! And, it’s supposed to be FUN!

      THANK YOU, Manny, especially for 2004 and 2007.... and all the many other years.

      And..... the Sox, as a team, need to pull their collective heads out of their butts — cause if all this squawking by Manny is all they need for an excuse to play like a bunch of girls, then they need to all look for jobs in a nail salon.

      Posted by Colleen, Truckee, Calif July 31, 08 07:13 PM
    1. I'll miss Manny. And Schilling and his Neo-Con Republican buddy Timlin will not be missed at all. They really can't leave Massachusetts soon enough.
      Stick a sock in it Curtis Montague Schilling. Why don't you and Timlin share class notes on Leo Strauss and his philosophical influence upon The Bush Presidency, ok ? Seriously, shut up already arsehat. Why don't you give Jesus a jingle. I am sure he is on your speed-dial, or at least in your mind he is.

      Posted by Helena Martinez July 31, 08 07:14 PM
    1. Well Schilling IS right about Manny on this. And Boras should be banned frrom MLB as an agent.

      Posted by jak1 July 31, 08 07:14 PM
    1. One more thing... Curt has been more right than wrong about politics, as well. From an out of town Red Sox fan who has had the experience of several stays in the Boston area.

      Boston:
      Great history, great bars, the greatest baseball team.

      Sorry customer service (I thought I was in Moscow when checking into a 4* hotel), Rude people (and I thought NYC was bad-Boston takes the cake)
      sorry politics - Massachusetts, please keep your politicians at home (this goes for New York as well). I don't know why every Socialist from Boston and New York somehow think they are fit to lead this country. Newsflash: Teddy, Tsongas, Dukakis, Kerry and even Romney - WE DON'T WANT YOU!!!!

      Posted by Brian McManus July 31, 08 07:14 PM
    1. You people are so ridiculous... Schilling tries to offer an honest, straight-forward opinion on things and you all jump all over him, mainly because he has come out in support of Bush, McCain, etc.... Of course, most of you won't admit that that is the reason, but it is quite transparent and obvious... How many famous people have come out in support of liberal candidates? 90% of them... Yet you never hear a negative word about it... Schilling's candidness is a godsend in this day and age... Manny, don't let the door hit your arse on the way out... Glad to see ya go...

      Posted by Southie July 31, 08 07:20 PM
    1. Good points, Aaron... Nice to see someone has some common sense...

      Posted by Southie July 31, 08 07:23 PM
    1. Yes, Pedro and Manny must be alike. You know how "those people are:. Don't worry Curt, you and the fans will get what you want. Ortiz should start making demands to leave now before Curt and the front office start trashing him

      Posted by BrianP July 31, 08 07:23 PM
    1. no curt , no titles. and all you mass. people who have something to say sbout him backing bush way back when. keep voting for your two state senators. they should both be in jail. oh, thats right your all enablers, in sports and politics.

      Posted by bosoxin08 July 31, 08 07:27 PM
    1. I think that a player such as Curt Schilling, who esentially blindsided the Sox into paying him a pretty penny for one more year and lied about his health shouldn't be chiming in on a damn thing right now.

      Say what you want about Manny, but the opinion of an arrogant chump like Schilling who seems to offer his two cents on every single thing that happens in that clubhouse means nothing to me. I think more of the Sox teammates hated Schilling for his big mouth more than any animosity they felt toward Ramirez. Aaron who posted earlier said that it's refreshing that Curt shares his opinions. I think that if he didn't start a sh*t storm with every single situation and only occasionally weighed in, his views might be seen as a little more credible. For example, if V-tek came out and said Manny was a jerk or Pedro was too difficult to work with, I'd believe that. He's not a walking Perez Hilton gossip mill like Curt is.

      Me personally - I think they should have had him finish out the year. Manny might be difficult sometimes, but he's not stupid. If he stayed and pouted and didn't play or produce, no one would sign him next year. He'd give the Sox results. Now I would understand if they didn't rush to pick up his '09 option since it's pricey and they have some time to look at alternatives, but getting rid of an RBI machine like Manny when you're in 2nd place but on the decline at the beginning of August is kind of foolish.

      To the people that say we should get rid of Manny like we did with Nomar and Pedro - you're right, those were two good decisions. Nomar was chronically injured with that achilles tendon, and Pedro had already started losing his touch BEFORE we got rid of him. He played bad in cold weather, in high pressure situations, and crumbled in the face of the Yankees. Manny on the other hand - Manny is an absolute machine. You can count on him every year to be on point for 100 RBI and in the neighborhood of 30 homeruns. And one of those facts that everyone likes to forget about, he has led the league for the past 3 years for outfield assists. Yah, a DEFENSIVE stat, shocking, I know. The guy's a legendary hitter, a great left-fielder, and - unlike greats like A-Rod - his stats are not just individual achievements, they really lend to the success of the team.

      We have suffered a huge loss and I just hope that it doesn't give us another 86 years to reflect on our mistakes.

      Posted by H July 31, 08 07:27 PM
    1. I do agree what Shilling says. Manny is a nitwhitted brain spoiled brat who is just about way past his prime and effectiveness. Good ridence. Looser

      Posted by Rewoodly a long time fan and a proud Manny hater. July 31, 08 07:29 PM
    1. Pedro and Nomah(you porkin' the Hamm?) had the same bloodlines as Man-ual labor-MONEY.
      Scott Boor-ass is a cancer to baseball. If Ramirez concentrated on being a team player he would have received his $20 MM option(s) but Boor-ass took over from Jeff Moorad as Manual's agent and he's looking for a big payday. Manual's payday will be that he was as Forrest Gump said.. S-T-U-P-I-D is as S-T-U-P-I-D as.
      Manual you are a malignancy on the world of baseball from little league to the big leagues and the BOSOX and the 24 other teammates are better off knowing that you're H-I -S-T-O-R-Y. Just poll them Shank Shughnessy.

      Posted by prokat July 31, 08 07:34 PM
    1. Pedro and Nomah(you porkin' the Hamm?) had the same bloodlines as Man-ual labor-MONEY.
      Scott Boor-ass is a cancer to baseball. If Ramirez concentrated on being a team player he would have received his $20 MM option(s) but Boor-ass took over from Jeff Moorad as Manual's agent and he's looking for a big payday. Manual's payday will be that he was as Forrest Gump said.. S-T-U-P-I-D is as S-T-U-P-I-D as.
      Manual you are a malignancy on the world of baseball from little league to the big leagues and the BOSOX and the 24 other teammates are better off knowing that you're H-I -S-T-O-R-Y. Just poll them Shank Shaughnessy.

      Posted by prokat July 31, 08 07:35 PM
    1. A team full of Dustin Pedroias will beat a team of Manny Ramirezs over the course of an entire season every time. Manny is a selfish, ungrateful dickhead. He and Boras deserve each other - Boras and Manny are both in California - they should check out the marriage laws - a match made in heaven. Together they could corner the market on selfish dickheadedness!

      Posted by Bill July 31, 08 07:38 PM
    1. Isn't Schilling sitting out the whole year?

      And he's on Manny's case for sitting out a couple games?

      Posted by Gick July 31, 08 07:38 PM
    1. Why does anyone care what Schilling ( who thinks George Bush was the best president of all-time) or Manny (faked that he didn't speak English for the first 4 years of his career until a reporter found out he grew up in New York) has to say?
      They are both good at baseball. No big deal. They are lucky to be living in an era where that translates into great wealth. But, for any fairly intelligent person to care about what either of these (below average intelligence) people think is a giant waste of time.
      The real athletes play football or basketball anyways.

      Posted by Steve S. July 31, 08 07:44 PM
    1. The first amendment to the US Constitution reads:
      "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,"

      Shilling is free to say whatever he wants, just like all the posters have done on this blog. You don't have to agree with him or like what he says however, keep in mind that he is the "winningest" pitcher in post-season history period and has 3 World Series rings.

      Anne started the political stuff early on with the first posting saying "This guy still thinks W Bush is a great president.." Well Anne, some of us do. Shilling by the way, is actually an Independent and most baseball players are relatively conservative, many of them coming from the south. This is especially true with this Red Sox Team

      As for the Sox, I don't think trading Manny and getting Bay will be enough to get them first place. Maybe a wild-card berth is possible but, World Series? Probably not this year, as they are in somewhat of a rebuilding year with all the youngsters. Hopefully, they'll make the playoffs and get some good experience for their young players.

      Posted by bbbrown July 31, 08 07:47 PM
    1. SEPT 7 2008 1:00pm Kickoff at Foxboro. All of this will be put to rest. Go Pats!!!!

      Manny, have a safe trip to LA. What a joke.. Boras just wanted the money...

      Posted by Jeff B July 31, 08 07:48 PM
    1. i am so sorry minaya didnt push harder to get manny landed at shea...if you wanna know whos manny ramirez play a slow motion video when he is at bat...what a sweet swing!!!

      Posted by david martz July 31, 08 07:49 PM
    1. Bye bye Manny, Thanks for the memories. Sometime down the road you will look back and wish you had stayed with the Sox. Too bad you don't appreciate when things are good. The Sox have coddled your arrogant ass for the last few years because you were so good. Hope life of the left coast, far away from the so-called horrors of Boston gives you peace. As for Schilling speaking his piece at least you know where he stands. I can't stand mealy mouth wannabes, just look at all the sorry arse democrats whining and crying. Things are moving along pretty well and all they can cry about is the same old crap. WMDs, the Iraqi war, and global warming, give me a break, over 200 inches of snow this past winter sounds like the earth is really heating up. Sounds like the only thing heating up is the left-handed cigarettes Al Bore and Howard the idiot are smoking. Two fine examples of educated stupidity. I hope Schill gets healthy and puts a Red Sox uniform again. He is one of the best big time players ever. At least he appreciates what he has and how to play the game

      Posted by Steve July 31, 08 08:01 PM
    1. southie, you hit the nail right on the head

      Posted by bosoxin08 July 31, 08 08:11 PM
    1. Schilling has played as big a role in the two championships as Ramirez.
      Both might be conceited, but Schilling at least has 12 times Manny's IQ, and it's Ramirez' stupidity that lead to this entire mess.

      Posted by Enrico July 31, 08 08:12 PM
    1. Jeez...
      a. Schilling has a bad shoulder, and the pictures to prove it. Manny's injuries are all excuses not to play. Not exactly comparing apples to apples are we Gick?

      b. Schill has just as much right to speak his mind as any of the idiots on here who are criticizing him for it. It's really hypocritical to bash a guy for speaking his mind when that's exactly what you're doing when you post a comment! Criticize the content if you must, but lay off criticizing him for talking.

      c. Haven't any of you enablers out there worked with someone who was a high achiever but pain in the a** to work with? I have. That's Manny. There's a point with people like that where you realize that what you're losing in atmosphere isn't off-set by their productivity -- and you let them go. Essentially, the Sox traded Moss and Hansen for Bay, and let Manny go.

      d. Point c is me trying to convince myself that this trade doesn't suck the big one.

      Posted by the jdawg July 31, 08 08:14 PM
    1. I'm not a huge fan of Schilling's lately either, but to equate him sitting out the season with a legitimate injury, and manny pulling himself out of the line up against the yankees, is insane. If schill somehow played through the pain and got shelled all season, as we all know he would, we'd all be saying that he belongs on the DL.

      Posted by Chris July 31, 08 08:39 PM
    1. For those of you old enough to remember Billy Martin, he would never put up with Manny's bull. Manny is like Terrel Owens--- a great player but a pain in the ass and not worth the headache. They both think "I" first and team second and whenever they do well, they make certain everyone knows about it! me me me.

      Posted by Jack Ryan July 31, 08 08:43 PM
    1. We should of GOTTEN Rid of SHILLING, before MANNY, no-body likes Schilling, he is UGLY and OLD. manny is the man, and its sad to see him go, He was what the Red Sox is all about, Shilling is a JOKE, and everyone in Boston knows it!

      Posted by bostttonn July 31, 08 08:53 PM
    1. I give Schilling more credit for winning both World Series than I give Ramirez. He also did it in Arizona (of all places) and Ramirex did not do it with Cleveland. Schilling does talk too freely, but he is right: Ramirez was disrespectful toward Boston and Francona even if he could not comprehend he was being disrespectful. He was basically an unrequited lover. The Red Sox held all the cards with the options and he was not hearing them say I love you. He started to realize maybe he was going to get dumped. So even though he wanted to stay and said so many times, his pride was hurt by not "feeling the love." Being disfunctional, he went on auto-pilot destroying the relationship before they could. Sure sorry to see Moss go though. He will be another David Murphy.

      Posted by RSN July 31, 08 08:56 PM
    1. A fresh day tomorrow and the Manny era will be officially history. He was a great hitter with many personalties. I am glad he was a Red Sox and he was a big part of our 2 World Series wins, but an ass is and ass and it is time for him to go. He wore out his welcome with his team mates and that is unexcusable on a team sport. To bad he didn't take a couple lessons from Randy Moss on how to be a little humble every now and then. I like our new outfielder Jason Bay for a lot of reasons. He is a very good hitter with power and plays well in the field. He has a strong arm and pretty good speed. At least he will hustle down the baseline. It will be interesting too see how he fits in with the pressure of playing in front of 35000 rabid dogs. I have a feeling it will be a little different then Pittsburg. To bad we had to give up 2 young players to get rid of a jerk. I think Mossy will be the biggest loss although Hanson had a gun for an arm. Both are probably going to do very well with the Pirates. So where do the Sox go from here? Hopefully, we get a fresh start tomorrow night and see what the youngster from Pittsburg can do on the big stage.

      Posted by Steve July 31, 08 09:00 PM
    1. Say what you want but before schilling got here we had zero world championships. Now we have two... If he never plays another game for Boston he has done enough. He didn't get 20 million a year and yet he played hurt.. Manny did his part as well but the time has come for him to go.. The red sox paid him 20 million to play baseball and he didn't do his part over the past couple of months. Thanks for the memories but good bye ...He had no reason to complain about management....

      Posted by michael July 31, 08 09:01 PM
    1. comparing injuries involving schill and manny......would manny have risked his career, aka, payday, and went through what curt had done to get on the field in the playoffs in 04? i think we all know that answer. curt was never the same again and still played a huge role in winning last year. no one could ever question his heart or his commitment to his team. it's no longer manny being manny. it's manny for manny, and unfortunately it has been that way for a while now. i must admit, because of that perfect swing, i had always made excuses for him. manny's right about one thing. we are tired of him. i know i am

      Posted by bosoxin08 July 31, 08 09:12 PM
    1. It really looks like Manny went to LA for pretty much the same reasons that the Babe was traded to NY...they both got to a point where they became petulant, immature shirkers in Boston and were major headaches for Boston management. Don't think for a minute that money had anything to do with either trade.
      The same thing would happen to any one reading this opinion if he/she behaved that way....no one is indispensable to the team.

      Posted by John Leland July 31, 08 09:20 PM
    1. RE: #2 comment about Manny's charities, please make sure you have correct information. Manny and Schilling together (along with Wakefield) launched their own wine label via Longball Vineyards with proceeds benefiting their charity of choice, Manny's being Charlee. Anyone tried Manny Being Merlot and Schilling Schardonnay? He also donated an antique car for auction for Boston's Franciscan Hospital for Children. I don't know how much he has donated or other work he may have done, but it is not zero.

      I think Manny has not exhibited any class recently, but neither has Schilling in talking like this about a teammate.

      Posted by LM July 31, 08 09:23 PM
    1. At least Manny played for his $10 million salary from the red Sox thsi year, while Schilling called WEEI and caused ill will and took $8 million for nothing. Maybe Theo would like to sign Schilling for another year of doing nothing. Speak about wearing out your welcome!

      Posted by Jay July 31, 08 09:27 PM
    1. This cracked me up:

      "He’s got a soft heart at times but I never invested a whole lot there when the issues that I… the times that I had questions… problems, I talked to Manny, and we had our run-ins and there was a couple of times when I thought I was going to have a run-in and was told not to, but I don’t know about that losing [support from the] team."

      Curt the warrior. Apparently, Curt was going to straighten Manny out, but they held him back. Sure thing. Just like his war hero AWOL Bush, and war profiteer Dick ( Five deferments) Cheney . Mission accomplished! Remember right after the 2004 WS parade Curt was riding in Air force One with GW, going on Good Morning America campaigning for Bush/Cheney. Thanks Curt!

      Yeah, millionaires got their taxes cut, and working stiffs get 3 tours in Iraq. Curt is a straight shooter!

      Posted by Rob July 31, 08 09:29 PM
    1. DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YA WHERE THE GOOD LORD SPLIT YA

      Posted by CLARK July 31, 08 09:30 PM
    1. It's just staggering to me how quickly some fans turn on Curt Schilling...calling him a "a joke" or "ugly" is just ridiculous. Grow up! I enjoy his candor and he is very comparable to Larry Bird in that respect. Truthful people are increasingly harder to come by these days. RSN makes a great point about Moss, but if for example he took Manny's place, you would then have an all-lefty hitting outfield. So on the surface, the Sox may have overpaid for Bay, but I am betting that this bold move will be worthwhile in the long run. Enough of the drama about Manny and as Schilling and Dennis Eckersley have pointed out, in so many words, it was all about the money!

      Posted by JA July 31, 08 09:40 PM
    1. hey rob, go take an economics class and stop with the kennedy talking points.

      Posted by bosoxin08 July 31, 08 09:41 PM
    1. Can somebody spell "Prima Donna"?

      Posted by lukela July 31, 08 09:42 PM
    1. Will someone please tell him Shut Up...He should be paying back the Sox for this year, and he should also be thanking them..over and over. He needs to retire. Boston fans are tired of him to.

      Posted by Ben Dover July 31, 08 09:45 PM
    1. F-Manny, I'll pack his nags.
      Lets get back to winning games and not whinning over games.
      And if you think otherwise,F you too!

      Posted by BuzzMeister July 31, 08 09:51 PM
    1. Thanks Shill. Now...about your contribution to 2008, I know you couldn't have foreseen missing the entire season but if you are a human being maybe you at least donate your salary to Shade and the KO ALS mission. By the way, the economy sucks for the average joe so I know you think you can justify what you are making but let me tell you that you can't.

      Posted by Matt July 31, 08 09:57 PM
    1. The Noodle-heads of the Nation are out in force today.

      Oh by all means, let’s listen to Schilling’s self-righteous nonsense. I mean, with all that he’s contributed this season to “the team”, we should be hanging on his every word - right?

      The fact is, as anyone with half a brain knows (outside of those ace baseball experts of the Boston sports media), and is the unanimous opinion of baseball analysts at ESPN, MLB.com, etc.) - this deal was a major stinker for the Red Sox.

      Theo has thrown our season under a bus - thank you very much.

      On the other hand, of course, now we have a team that - while it may end up with a losing season - will no longer be “distracted” -will be easier for Francona to manage (thanks to a more mediocre lineup), will free up some cash in the off-season (to maybe land another ace reliever like Gagne, or resign Schilling to another lost season), but most importantly, will now project the ‘Boy Scout’ image that the Nation’s noodle-heads seem to want.


      Posted by Bill Carroll July 31, 08 09:58 PM
    1. Schilling has no credibility on this one. Why would he even open his mouth. When was the last time Schilling was less than 40 pounds overweight? You think physical fitness might have something to do with being able to play out your contract, ya think? And this guy is going to criticize Manny's desire, Manny's intensity. You have got to be kidding me. Manny is (was) one of the fittest guys on the team, and has put up monster numbers every single year of his contract. I only wish the Sox had traded Manny to the Yankees so that we could still see his sweet swing. Thanks for the memories, Manny.

      Posted by Matt July 31, 08 10:02 PM
    1. Schilling spoke the truth from start to finish. This whole situation has come about simply because the selfish Manny Ramirez did not want the Sox to pick up his options, giving him the opportunity to sign a four year contract this winter. It's really sad when you think about how long we've had to put up with this cry baby. Even the things he says about Nomar, Pedro, and Damon make no sense.

      Nomar was offered 60 million for four years and turned it down. Pedro was offered a ton of money by the Mets which the Sox were smart not to match because for one, he was a declining pitcher, and two the guy is never healthy so he doesn't even give you innings. Damon was def not worth what the skanks paid

      Posted by bigpapi3438 July 31, 08 10:21 PM
    1. Schilling has nothing left to contribute talent-wise, so he tries to make up for it by using his mouth.
      Shut up you loud-mouthed, opinionated moron. We don't care what you think. We never did care what you thought, and since you are now entirely useless as a player, we'd really like to see you get the hell out of here.

      Posted by dansdad69 July 31, 08 10:22 PM
    1. Ben Dover, and bostttonn (just to name the last few) - thankfully, you don't speak for me... Please don't pretend you do... You feel that way, fine... Don't attempt to speak for Red Sox fans everywhere... Be like your boy, Manny - think I, instead of we... Schilling will never wear out his welcome with me... He is like a breath of fresh air when it comes to pro athletes, nowadays...

      Posted by Southie July 31, 08 10:23 PM
    1. i hope jason bay doesn't choose schilling's charity since schilling demanded at least a $10,000 donation before the guy even touched down in beantown. what a welcome! hopefully he doesn't want a tarnished number worn by an egotist who can't stop talking even as he pockets $8,000,000 from The Sox. for such a 'team guy', he made comments about a teammate prior to him being traded. at least the majority of red sox had the common sense and team-oriented attitude to wait until manny wasn't with the team prior to mouthing off. i hope he goes to the NL and someone drills him in the mouth on opening day and he has to have his yapper wired shut for the season.

      Posted by mister cookiepants July 31, 08 10:28 PM
    1. i hope jason bay doesn't choose schilling's charity since schilling demanded at least a $10,000 donation before the guy even touched down in beantown. what a welcome! hopefully he doesn't want a tarnished number worn by an egotist who can't stop talking even as he pockets $8,000,000 from The Sox. for such a 'team guy', he made comments about a teammate prior to him being traded. at least the majority of red sox had the common sense and team-oriented attitude to wait until manny wasn't with the team prior to mouthing off. i hope he goes to the NL and someone drills him in the mouth on opening day and he has to have his yapper wired shut for the season.

      Posted by mister cookiepants July 31, 08 10:30 PM
    1. Ya know, I have always thought Bostonians, Sox nation, were smart & sophisticated enough to allow Curtis the 'right' to speak FREELY. I know, as a New Englander who moved south for the sun & fun only to find just as much stupidity (here in Fl) as I read on these comment pages. A man, no matter his politics, is entitled to speak what he feels RIGHT? Curt, has come out of the shadows from which most pro athelets seem to hide behind--he says whatever the hell he feels. Reminds me of "Give 'em hell Harry" (Truman, an ex-prez kiddies). Thank God Schill is around to share anything & everything. He's the kinda guy I'd love to spend hours w/ debating & breaking more than bread..if i can say that mr 'milk-toast' Stumple who wants the Glope to edit more & ban anything w/ adult .!connotations. OK, I can't spell-but I speak from the heart and I admire Curtis whenever I can catch his column.
      You a-holes who can't stand to read his opinions, than go back to your favorite porn sites, Unamerican gladiators or other crap you choose FREELY to partake & give us all a break.
      baby-manny's gone ! may the selfish bastard slip on some soap in some L.A. bario. let's all come tigether & root & help inspire our SOX to do the baseball basics--as a TEAM. Winning will come natural. Thanks for reading me_freely & my thanks to the Globe for this ooportunity to vent=FREELY. God bless AMERICA.

      Posted by Hollywood Don Taylor JR July 31, 08 10:32 PM
    1. So who is right, the old guy who doesnt even pitch and refuses to retire and just keeps talking while he eats up money from the Sox(even though he said he has likely thrown his last pitch). Or the lazy LF who is whining about not making even more than the 20 million he already makes and has become a cancer to the team, but hits 40 homers and his 300. every year...... I guess it doesnt matter anymore.

      Posted by Voice of Reason July 31, 08 10:32 PM
    1. P2: OK, I can't spell-but I speak from the heart and I admire Curtis whenever I can catch his column.
      You a-holes who can't stand to read his opinions, than go back to your favorite porn sites, Unamerican gladiators or other crap you choose FREELY to partake & give us all a break.
      baby-manny's gone ! may the selfish bastard slip on some soap in some L.A. bario. let's all come together & root & help inspire our SOX to do the baseball basics--as a TEAM. Winning will come natural. Thanks for reading me_freely & my thanks to the Globe for this opportunity to vent=FREELY. God bless AMERICA.

      Posted by Don Taylor JR July 31, 08 10:35 PM
    1. You can say what you want about Shilling, but the fact remains we would not have two World Series without him. Sure he likes to hear himself talk and is a little self centered, but he has a right to his opinion.

      Obviously there is a little emotion in the comments that he made, but there is no doubt in my mind that a lot of what he said is accurate. Manny is a great player, maybe one of the best ever, and will leave some big shoes to fill, but he was just one supporting character in a cast of many.

      This is the nature of the game, but is blown way out of proportion and over dramatized as usual.

      Posted by Eric Marquis July 31, 08 10:42 PM
    1. are you shilling haters need to check yourself. he's a hardnosed pitcher who speaks his mind deal with it, manny is gone (it't a good thing) now relax...there's two full months of ball left.

      Posted by tommy July 31, 08 11:47 PM
    1. Amen Curt. Way to speak the truth. It was a great run Manny but it is good to see you leave after trying to destroy this team with your attitude 2 out of 3 years.

      Posted by Norm Perry August 1, 08 12:02 AM
    1. Like Pedro said: "Who's Curt schilling"

      Posted by ivan August 1, 08 12:08 AM
    1. It's all about teamwork. No matter how good a player or "team" you have. You will not win without a TEAM effort. Morale, determination and motivation is a huge part of winning. I still can't find that "I" in teamwork. Can you?

      BYE BYE BABY!!!!! No love lost here!

      Posted by RAM August 1, 08 12:13 AM
    1. Manny Boy pushed down and injured a TEAM representitive who was older than his father. They should have charged him, cut him and banned him from baseball. So two former assholes in a redsox uniform who beat up old guys are no longer with the team? Thats a good start.

      Posted by Matty August 1, 08 12:15 AM
    1. I cant believe some of the negative comments I am reading about Curt "BIG GAME" Schilling....He is bang on about manny and about pedro--I was a huge fan of both of those guys, especially, pedro...But in the end, when all is said and done, the team coems first...NOT the individual!!!...When the player starts putting himself before the team--then ya, its time to ship him out--this manny thing has been going on since 2004..and this past week, it reached a new low....You people forget that the red sox tried winning playoff series and getting to the world series with just guys like manny, pedro and nomar aboard. It wasnt until Curt came aboard that we finally ended the dreaded curse..Not counting this year, schill has pitched a total of 4 years for us, and delivered with 2 world series titles!!!..if you dont think they miss schill this year?, think again!! Jason Bay will be an adequate fill in for the time being, and hopefully come this winter, we land a player like matt holliday. The rockies are in love with young starting pitchers, and it just so happens, we got plenty of those...the combo of ortiz/holliday in '09...will make everyone say "manny who?"....cheers

      Posted by Vince Rosano....Niagara Falls, Canada August 1, 08 12:44 AM
    1. Just look at the stats--Manny was the 04 WS MVP....he's got over 500 HRs and over 20 this season....how many seasons has this horse**** about trading Manny been going on? The owners throw the money at the players and then complain when they aren't shown "proper respect"---how much money has Manny's place on the Sox squad generated for them? Way more than the entire team will make....Is there another MLB player who looks like he's having as much fun playing baseball than Manny? Money ruins everything....I will miss him sorely....not to mention the chance for a Red Sox WS appearance this season..

      Posted by Yazevans August 1, 08 12:55 AM
    1. 'Manny being Traded'

      Posted by Paul Mcsharry August 1, 08 01:02 AM
    1. To Anne M Falcone, Why is it that Bush Haters cannot stick to the topic without taking a swipe at GWB? You're commenting on Schilling's political affiliations in a baseball article. Is your tendency to do this a lack of self-control, lack of brains, or an ADD flare-up? Knock it off with the deflection.

      Posted by Mike August 1, 08 01:12 AM
    1. Hey, Bill Carroll (post #223) and a few with similar viewpoints--
      You are acting like the Red Sox front office is the Bruins front office. Like they are a bunch of bunglers who can't recognize talent and who can't put together a competitive team. Like the disaster which was Gagne is the normal occurrance from Theo Epstein. The Red Sox are the defending CHAMPIONS, not some sad 4th place team who consistently destroys itself over big contracts and short-sighted moves. In 2004, Theo put his career on the line, trading their all-star shortstop (arguably the face of the team) for two journeymen. If that trade (and the Roberts pickup) had not been made, and as a result the Red Sox may not have won that or any subsequent championship, Manny would not have had the leeway by the fans or media to act like the aloof clown he is. The Red Sox deserve the benefit of the doubt--lots of teams win by subtracting more talented but disgruntled players (see the 1999 and 2004 Red Sox. See the 2007 New York Giants, for that matter.) I don't blame Manny for this particularly--he is what he is and will always be: a charming infant with no particular team commitment and the ability to have 13 RBI in any given week. I don't really blame the Red Sox either--they put up with him for long enough, they were going to have to trade or cut him in the off-season, and the $160 million dollar deal was a sensible enough one 8 years ago and produced 860 RBI and 2 rings in 7+ years. I think you should concentrate on the positives of the Red Sox still being one of the 5 best teams in baseball, giving the city a parade last year, and having a deep enough farm system to stomach this damage. This is no longer the cursed eyesore from the 90's--losing a dozen straight playoff games and having massive player revolts every year.

      Posted by Milltycoon August 1, 08 01:26 AM
    1. What does Schilling's political party have to do with his opinion on this stuff?

      Posted by Ben Berzai August 1, 08 05:35 AM
    1. Well when you signed a 8 million dollar contract show up over weight to camp and don't throw a pitch, basically making 8 million to stay home, yo really have a say on who is a cancer and who is not. Thanks god we traded Manny so he can actually play for something since the Sox are going to tank it from here on out.

      Posted by Norberto Paulino August 1, 08 05:41 AM
    1. Well when you signed a 8 million dollar contract show up over weight to camp and don't throw a pitch, basically making 8 million to stay home, yo really have a say on who is a cancer and who is not. Thanks god we traded Manny so he can actually play for something since the Sox are going to tank it from here on out.

      Posted by Norberto Paulino August 1, 08 05:43 AM
    1. look whos talking....Schilling is being paid millions to sit his ass on a bench. the mistake was keeping him ...this really sucks that the red soxs traded manny.

      Posted by beth August 1, 08 07:39 AM
    1. Manny Ramirez will be missed. He was perhaps the greatest right hand hitter
      the Red Sox have had since Jimmy Foxx. If Theo spent the last 8 years finding
      a number 5 hitter to actually PROTECT Manny in the line-up; instead of the investments in Renteria, Lugo, Gagne; ETC. Also, As a masshole Redsox fan
      myself; I hate to admit we often react emotionally as opposed to strategically
      to a situation. Why would Manny turn down a scenario if the Red Sox notified him
      that they were not Picking up his option; and he will be a free agent at the end of the season?? You would have a EXTREMELY motivated Bat , that;s pushing for a
      New Contract. Take a deep breathe Theo and Boston MGMT; you might have
      made David Ortiz into a mere mortal.

      Posted by Stretch August 1, 08 07:42 AM
    1. Remember, in 2004 Schilling was brought in to "WIN" the Series.
      And he produced....obviously with a real good teamBUT he did it in the playoffs didn't he. GREAT play-off pitcher and a nice guy. Little chatty isn't he?
      Enterrtaining though.....and that is what it is all about....winning w. series and entertainment.

      Manny good luck and thanx for all the hitting and entertainment....but you do need to grow up and be a man.

      Posted by snydely August 1, 08 09:23 AM
    1. It's amazing how someone's political views define everything about someone in people's (liberals) eyes. It's a sad pathetic way to go about life. Schill's more responsible for the 2 WS wins yet he gets skewered because he's a republican. Manny's a lazy, self-centered jerk, but you love him and excuse anything and everything he does because he can hit (when he feels like it).

      Even if you don't agree with what he says, you should appreciate that he's not a walking cliche. It's your problem if you can't handle a candid different opinion. You people must be great parents, employees, etc.

      Posted by RC August 1, 08 09:38 AM
    1. I think Curt is a jerk the way he came on the radio and so called told all...as if he is not a jerk in the club house...come on....mr perfect..maybe if manny was not there he would of not of been the hero with the blood on his sock.....he would of been just another pitcher that was hurt and tried to pitch....the red sox knew manny would freak out but they wanted the fans to agree with them when they did not sign him..but it back fired on the red sox..now they will have some guy who has no arm.had shoulder surgery three years ago...is not a great glove playing in manny's spot...manny might not of been the best player in the field but he had an arm in a half..now you have no arm in center and left field...great....all the red sox had to tell manny they were not going to sign him but like i said they wanted to turn the public...and that is what leaves a bad taste in your mouth about this trade..everyone knew manny probably would not be resigned but the red sox had to win the public opion..and to let curt come on the radio and tell all.....come on...his team mates are not saying enough is enough..now there saying who is going to hit the hell out of the ball...thats what there saying...now that manny is gone so jason v is going to hit 350 and elsbree is going to become the rookie of the year..and ortiz will be so happy walking every at bat..and on and on..come on...padora a little guy should not even of made it to the big leagues in some peoples eyes....no matter what manny did that little bugga hit the hell out of the ball..so he should be team captain....because he is the only one on the team ..him and yuk..that are strong minded....is that what you are saying...come on....these guys get payed millions of dollars..get off your but and hit the ball....veratech is stressed because he is sucking...that's his problem...and on and on.....people sound so stupid......mannys bat slowed down...oh ya that is why he hit a home run off the angels closer..who happens to throw in the high 90's....his mechanics were off and he was pulling off the ball at times...but people on try to spin it to help there argument...ridicules...oh and by the way the yankee's just had a party..no more three and four devastation for there pitchers..

      Posted by Beth Goncalo August 1, 08 09:59 AM
    1. Manny has always been a stonecold mercenary. He got paid to hit, and he did. he wasn't signed for defense, clubhouse chemistry, hustle or leadership. He got paid to hit. he got paid to hit against the Yankees, and he did. While it's nice for the kids to hear us adults castigaste the man for not hustling down the base path, it was, to Manny, an uneccesary business risk -- not laziness. Manny doesn't bleed baseball, he bleeds hitting. And somewhere along the line this so-called "savant" learned the cold calculus of the entertainment industry.
      So don't bust on Manny. We all agreed to this deal: Beat the Yankees and end The Curse ... whatever it took.
      Or look at it this way: if I told you in 2003 Manny would play left field without a glove and never run out a grounder in exchange for the ultimate vanquishing of the Yankees and two World Series champinonships in the next four years, would you take the deal?

      Posted by Stan August 1, 08 10:37 AM
    1. The problem is that so many fans and most of the acerbic Boston sports media hate to see a player having fun playing the game. Everybody likes the “Dirt dogs” and the “Hard-nosed” players who hustle all the time. BORING! Manny is more fun to watch than a team of 9 Youkilises and Variteks. I like those guys, don’t get me wrong, but having Manny there brought joy to the game that will be sorely missing now. When he is at the plate you can not question his dedication or concentration, he is all business. Like Pedro, who was a fierce competitor on the mound and a complete goofball in the dugout on his non-pitching days, Manny is entertaining and the purists hate it. Lighten up!

      As for Schilling, I never liked him as a person and I never will. I’m grateful for his efforts in the playoffs, but the man never met a microphone he didn’t like. While he is contributing nothing to the team on the field, I would be great if he would also contribute nothing to the airwaves. His constant presence on the radio, on the internet and any anywhere else where he can be heard is also a major distraction for the team. And he doesn’t limit his stupidity to baseball; he was proving a distraction during the basketball playoffs too. I would prefer he just go away!

      Posted by Jon in Rhode Island August 1, 08 01:04 PM
    1. I'm amazed at the Curt bashing here. Is he a loudmouth sometimes? Yeah. But he speaks the truth and from personal experience, while it's glamorized in the movies, when a person does it in real life he's vilified. Schilling busted his ass every second he was out there...NEVER dogged it and wore the Red Sox uniform with extreme pride. Manny??? Need we go there? Great natural talent....doesn't give a damn about anyone else if they don't fit his needs. He's a little boy who never grew up. He reminds me of someone I know who jokingly said one time, "It's my own little world, I'll try to fit you in where I can." Sound like Manny???
      Just like Nomar, just like Pedro, great talents but exceedingly self-ebsorbed. I'm sorry, I'm mucho glad to see Manny leave. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!!!

      Posted by Jeff Zephyr August 1, 08 01:11 PM
    1. Schilling saying it like it is. The most frustrating thing is what if Manny actually put forth 110% effort all the time?

      Posted by Mace44 August 1, 08 02:01 PM
    1. I'm for Schilling. He has integrity. Read his words, and it is obvious he has the type of character that runs throughough our great community in NE. I would love to see my kids grow up to have some of Curt's qualities. Moreover, he has poured himself out for the Sox. Manny only cares about himself and putting an extra $50M in the bank. No integrity. Nothing you would want to see in your children - other than the unquestionable talent. Give my kid integrity over talent any day. The one thing Manny is right about is that the Red Sox don't deserve a player like him. We deserve better. Glad to see Manny go, and J-Bay coming to Boston (the guy has Yaz posters on his wall, for goodness sake). Lets go Sox!

      Posted by Jim C August 1, 08 03:32 PM
    1. I like Shilling. His politics completely suck, but as far as Manny is concerned he is spot on. I will miss Manny and I hope he finds his "peace", but we also need our peace. Time to PLAY BALL!!!

      Posted by Ed from Gloucester August 1, 08 03:33 PM
    1. I like Shilling. His politics completely suck, but as far as Manny is concerned he is spot on. I will miss Manny and I hope he finds his "peace", but we also need our peace. Time to PLAY BALL!!!

      Posted by Ed from Gloucester August 1, 08 03:35 PM
    1. Reply to Post #250, Posted by RC August 1, 08 09:38 AM........

      Maybe Shilling should keep his politics to himself.

      Posted by Ed from Gloucester August 1, 08 03:48 PM
    1. Curt, why don't you just go away.

      Posted by mike m August 1, 08 03:54 PM
    1. Ever notice how the word, Boston, is missing from the "Red Sox nation". I think true Bostonians are glad to see Ramirez go, because he disrespected the team and he disrespected the game. But the bandwagon-jumping trendophiles who comprise the Red Sox nation are probably sad to see him go. As for #38, he gave it his all every time he stepped between the lines, and that means more to a Boston Red Sox fan than all of Manny's 500 home runs.

      I am old enough to have seen Ted Williams play, and I grew up watching Yaz. I saw my first game at Fenway in 1959. Manny Ramirez is no Yaz, no matter how badly the Red Sox nation wants to think otherwise. He's always been a jerk who was tolerated because of his bat, but now his antics cause far more damage than anything he can offer with his bat. When you have a cancer you have to cut it out.

      Posted by Rainer Scheer August 1, 08 04:52 PM
    1. Having been a Sox fan for 33 years, and a baseball fan my whole life, it sreally sticks in my crawl to see that a player can get away with what Manny has gotten away with. In the era of guaranteed contracts, this type of stuff gets tolerated. Shilling at times sounds like a self promoter, but I think he would die trying to win a game. Manny may have had his issues with upper management, but he owed the other 24 players on his team and all the fans a complete effort. I do not know how he can sleep at night.I wisk Youklis would have dropped him.

      Posted by Dan Meehan August 1, 08 07:54 PM
    1. I can't stand Schilling or Manny. Schilling is a righteous douche. And Manny is past his prime, and can't get away these stunts anymore. Maybe if he was 26, but not 36. There are so many great YOUNG players out there who know how to behave like human beings.

      Posted by Mary August 1, 08 08:04 PM
    1. I would buy any player on the 2004 team a drink, forever. Manny would be in that group but with an asterisk.

      Schilling may have spoken out where he did not have to but Manny had to go, plain and simple. I'll miss the swing and the absolute surety he had when he got all of any pitch and sent it to the sky. I won't miss his arrogance, his mouth or his lack of responsibility to the team and the sport.

      George Brett said, when asked if he wanted a home run at his last at bat, that he would rather be thrown out at first base digging deep to manufacture a hit. Manny wouldn't understand...

      Posted by Len Provost August 1, 08 08:47 PM
    1. Good job Sox.
      Now you have a bunch of non-exciting JD Drew's.
      It's now the most boring team in ALL sports to watch.

      I think Tito and Curt are both racists, they didn't want Pedro or Manny around because of their ethnicity. Seriously. Curt has had a bigger mouth than Manny all along, yet he still gets paid to do nothing. Pedro got run outta town, but Tim "F**** Boone" Wakefield is still there. BoSox stop being racists!!!

      They would probably trade me for Kalil Greene if I played there......

      Posted by Gary Sheffield August 2, 08 01:32 PM
    1. To bad we lost two great players,they both made the game very exciting to watch.
      I will miss Manny just like I miss the Schill. They both gave a lot of joy when they were on the field. Maybe we expect to much. Enjoy what we have while we have it and stop complaining. Life is to short.

      Posted by Stephanie A Dow August 2, 08 06:23 PM
    1. This is coming from a guy who signed a $10 million dollar contract and knew his shoulder had exploded. What a joke.

      Posted by GoodbyeMojo August 3, 08 03:32 AM
    1. It's amazing! If you criticize someone who is "of color" you're a racist.

      Posted by lukela August 3, 08 07:20 PM
    1. HERE'S A QUESTION TO ANSWER. WHY DIDN'T MANNY AKA CARRYING THE AMERICAN FLAG OUT TO LEFT FIELD, GO TO WALTER REED HOSPITAL AND VISIT THE "REAL HEROS"? YA SEE MANNY DOESN'T GET THE CONNECTION AND KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY. IF IT WASN'T FOR THE WWII VETS ,THE CLOWN AND I DO MEAN CLOWN, WOULD'T BE PLAYING BALL AT ALL!!!!!! BUT, JUST LIKE THE RED SOX ORGANIZATION, I FORGAVE HIM. THIS LAST SOAP OPERA , YOU COULD SEE IT WASN'T GOING AWAY.
      HERE'S ONE QUESTION FOR MANNY. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO IRAQ? THE ARMY WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE UNIFORMS YOU NEED, AND EQUIPMENT, SWELTERING HEAT, SCORPIONS AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD SHIT. OH, I FORGOT TO TELL YOU MANNY, NOBODY QUITS ON THIS TEAM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FROM THE SAME MOLD...........MEN, MANNY MEN!!!!!!!!!!!

      Posted by JFAY August 4, 08 11:00 AM
    1. Schilling - bloody sock? Experimental, career threatening procedure? No gratitude shown at all.


      The doctors could come up with this amazing "experimental, career threatening procedure" but couldn't find a bandaid big enough to cover the blood...PLEASE!

      Manny is a spoiled brat but Schilling needs to shut up!

      Posted by Reian August 5, 08 04:53 PM
    1. HEY# 265

      I HATE TO BUST YOUR BUBBLE BUT ARE YOU KIDDING ME THAT THE RED SOX ARE RACISTS? MAYBE WHEN TOM YAWKEE OWNED THE TEAM. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE JOHN HENRY GROUP DO YOU THINK THE RED SOX WOULD HAVE WON TWO WORLD SERIES? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM, IT HAS TO DO WITH BASEBALL AND IT IS CALLED A TEAM. MANNY DIDN'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE TEAM AND HE COULD NOT BE TRUSTED, PERIOD END OF STORY. HERE'S A REMINDER IF YOU CAN'T REMEMBER. THE YANKEE SERIES, MANNY COMES TO THE PLATE AND DOESN'T LIFT THE BAT OFF HIS SHOULDER!! FOR CHRIST SAKES HE SHOULD HAVE WENT UP TO THE PLATE AND BATTED LEFT HANDED AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE FIGURED IT OUT, YEA RIGHT! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACISM. MAYBE THE WHOLE SALARY STRUCTURE SHOULD BE REVAMPED AND STOP CATERING TO THESE GUYS WHO ARE ONLY MAKING 20 LARGE. MAYBE THEY SHOULD ADOPT THE NFL'S SALARY CAP AND SEE HOW MANY WHINNERS WE HAVE. RACISM, SORRY ITS ALL ABOUT THE BENJAMINS, THE BENJAMINS!

      Posted by JJF August 6, 08 10:19 AM
    1. "Schill"ings political views are apparently mirror images of his personal and professional views. Bigot. Self-centered. Closet Racist. Prey on easy targets (coward). Interesting how he only targets certain demographics. He attempts to hide his true nature by using wornout cliches that apply to others only. It is very clear what spin "Schill" will take on any issue. Amazing.

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