Stick a fork in New York? Is it Yankee elimination party time?
With the Red Sox and Rays pulling away over the last week, it's starting to look like a two-team race for the AL East. And according to today's New York Post , the Yankees' 2008 season is over after a 4-2 loss to the Twins last night put the Bronx Bombers nine games behind Tampa Bay and six games behind Boston.
Today's NY Post front page |
Visiting hours are 2 TO 4 and 7 TO 9.These are traditional times for wakes, but this isn't a public wake for the Yankees. Nevertheless, their supporters are urged to pay their respects privately today for the team that is looking toe-tag dead in the AL East and wild card races.
The pinstriped coffins have been delivered and when the final game at Yankee Stadium is played, it will be turned into a cemetery. The headstone will read: March 31-Aug. 13.
In today's New York Daily News, there's more follow-up on yesterday's report that Yankees owner Hank Steinbrenner suggested his team might have to wait until next year to get to the promised land because the injuries to the '08 squad have become too much for New York to overcome:
... The Baby Boss sounded more optimistic about 2009 than this season because of the devastating injuries the Yankees have suffered, although Hank Steinbrenner didn't concede this campaign, either.His father, however, would have just gone straight to the Gen. George S. Patton quotebook.
"I'm more familiar with comments like, 'This is the time to show what we're made of' or 'Champions are built on overcoming adversity like this,'" said baseball historian Marty Appel, a former Yankee media relations director and author of several baseball books. "I was a little surprised by it. I'm not criticizing Hank. But it seems like it would be more Steinbrenner-like if he were to challenge them."
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The New York Times weighs in on the Yankees' poor play of late: Yanks Just Don't Have Their Heads in the Game
Tyler Kepner writes that the Yankees have made too many mental mistakes on the recent road trip:
The Yankees came to the end of a three-city stumble with a 4-2 loss to the Minnesota Twins that was filled with mental mistakes. They lost 7 of 10 on the trip and are showing no signs they will seriously compete for a playoff spot. ...With Wilson Betemit at shortstop, Robinson Canó at second base and Melky Cabrera in center field, the Yankees' defense up the middle was painfully erratic. Several miscommunications bothered Manager Joe Girardi.
"I don't understand it," Girardi said. "We've been playing way too long to have that happen. It's something that shouldn't happen. It's inexcusable. Those guys have played together long enough, they understand what they need to do. Sometimes it's just trying to do too much, and you can't. You have to be able to relax and play."
The Daily News has more on the Yankees' disappointing 10-game road trip:
"It's a frustrating loss and a frustrating road trip," Johnny Damon said. "We need to get better. It's getting pretty late for us." ...Since taking two of three from the Red Sox in Boston from July 25-27, the Yankees are 0-4-1 in their last five series, going 6-11 overall during that stretch. Seven of those defeats came on this trip alone, as the Yankees split four games with the Rangers before getting swept by the Angels and losing two of three to the Twins.
More from Mark Feinsand of the Daily News on the Yankees' hopes for a banner slipping away:
As Joe Girardi met with reporters after Wednesday's loss to the Twins, the makeshift banner bearing the Yankees' logo that had been put up in the hallway outside the visitors' clubhouse began to peel away from the wall.A heads-up employee of the YES Network saw the banner slipping and taped it back up, but the incident served as a perfect metaphor for the Yankees' season.
Over at NJ.com, they stayed with the tombstone theme, as Frank Della Femina did a doom and gloom roundup of today's Yankees stories "that read more like obituaries than game recap."

(Frank Della Femina/NJ.com)
Do you think we've seen the last of the Yankees in the 2008 pennant race? Or will the Bombers find a way to get back in the October hunt? Share your thoughts in the comments section.




I LOVE IT!!! Dont count them out yet though. They have a ton of pride...
Count 'em out? I get nervous when I do that...actually, as much as the Yanks have been complaining about their season, I think that everything they are doing is just fine! Really, they shouldn't change a thing. They are starting to sound like a broken record in the press: "we need to play better" "we shouldn't make these kind of mistakes" "we have team that knows how to play we just got to get out there and play." ....nah, Yanks are doing fine! They should keep doing EXACTLY what they are doing now.
Not a lot of people seem to be noticing this, but the Blue Jays have quietly been sneaking up lately. They're only two games away from snatching third place from the Yankees, at the moment.
The life of Sox fandom I've led, though, has taught me never to count the Yankees out.
As much as I'd like to, there are too many head to head games left with Boston and TB to count the Yankees out.
Hey remember the Mets collapse last season? That taught me that anything in baseball is possible.
I'm 50 years old, so excuse me for being a little conservative here.
Near the end of August of 1974, the Red Sox held a 7 game lead in the East after Luis Tiant won his 20th game of the year. They finished third that year...a fading third at that.
Do we have to remind anyone of 1978?
Do we have to go over other late season scenarios that have seen the Yankees come storming back?
I think not.
The Red Sox have their own problems right now (Tampa Bay being one, middle relief being the other-- speaking of which, can we please get rid of GI Joe I think I'm in the Army Mike TImlin? This guys is TOAST already!). I like their chances of getting into the post-season, but it ain't gonna be easy.
And, you know the Yankees will have something to say before it's all done this year. Whether their statement will matter or not remains to be seen...but they'll have at least ONE run left.
The one good thing: The Sox aren't scared of the Yankees anymore. Been there, done that. New Era.
Until they win 2 of 3 over the Royals this weekend, and the NY papers start with "Yankees are hot, ready for playoff run" stories. The NY papers are garbage. I wouldn't wipe my behind with rags like the Post and Daily News.
There's still 40 or so games left in the season. Never turn your back on something thats hunting you. Who thought the Sox would be chasing the Rays? All those games that 'didn't matter' in April or May are haunting us now aren't they?
Ask us in three weeks if the Yankees are dead. Add this to it, most fans of baseball feel George Steinbrenner ruined baseball. It seems his son has ruined the Yankees. I can't help but think Joe was letting Hank have his way by putting Joba in the rotation, knowing it would crash and burn. Unfortunately, Joe might be the loser in allowing that to happen. The Yankees can buy all the players they want, management ultimately makes use of whats on the roster and management is what is behind the current debacle.
It's mid-August, haven't we learned anything from years past? The Sox are looking good right now compared to the Yanks, but let's not count our chickens yet.
I LOVE IT!!! Dont count them out yet though. They have a ton of pride...
I never count the Yankees out.........................until it is statistically impossible.
Yogi said it best:
"It ain't over till it's over."
"It's tough making predictions, especially about the future"
Just on general principles, i.e. history, you can't count the Yanks out until they're 9 back with 8 to play. And 3.5 games back in the wild card is hardly obit material (much as I would gleefully celebrate). As a perfect example of premature celebration, all you have to look at is Tuesday's Sox/Rangers game. First inning 10-0 lead, might as well not even waste the rest of the evening playing, right? Let's play the rest of the season and see what happens. As Yogi said: "It's hard to predict, especially the future"
I don't want them out of the picture, because I so thoroughly enjoy each and every loss and every step they take on the way down. And yeah, go Jays! If the yankees finish in fourth with a payroll larger than the GPD of several small island nations I for one may not stop giggling until sometime around the Super Bowl.
You single-testicled hack.
i love to see the yankees out of it, but its not even september yet
The day you can officially count the Yankees out is when they are mathematically eliminated. I don't trust this team. I never did. They have the potential to, though they haven't done it with consistency this year, put together a long winning streak.
I live in the NY area and read the papers - remember - newspaper articles are like poison - fatal only if swallowed.
So don't have any premature victory dances yet. Wait to its official.
With just 41 games left, the injuries they have, and the fact that they would need to leap frog two teams for either the AL East or the Wild Card, I just don't see it happening. It looks like this version of the Yankees has just plain quit on Giradi. Never thought I'd be saying that...
every year now, huh?
has to be said though, the only reason yankee fans, which is to say trustees, board members, investors, shareholders, wall-street-pencil-pusher types, crawlspace metrosexuals and altogether cogs and spokes, not to mention m. francesa and the remainder of the ny media conglomerate pulled so fervently to re-sign rodriguez had next to nothing to do with with his (contract year) numbers-exceptional as they were- but rather with the ribald obssession on their behalf to have at their disposal a readily someone-something to pleasurably lay blame on for how horrific the dividends of steinbrenner sr.'s antics (greed; arrogance; indifference; etc) over the last 15 years or so will prove to be for that city and organization in the foreseeable future.
call it karma, curse (of the rod, anyone?) or whatever, but the yankees will play (their) games come october, and plenty.
baseball will have nothing to do with that.
No way the Empire is dead yet. I hate it when the press does this it only gets them going again. I wish they were dead but they are not. This is just a reverse psych by the NY rags.
the NY media has really nailed down the reverse psychology tactic. who cares what these bozos write? the Yankees could easily put together 6 or 7 wins in a row with their bats alone. as much as i hate them, i never count them out until it's mathematically impossible for them to win a playoff spot. i don't care how many titles we've won this century.
Yanks schedule is too tough. Too many teams in front of them. They are cooked. Long live the Atlanta Braves consecutive post-season appearances streak!!
The Yankees scheduled this day of mourning when they continued to sign the likes of Johnny D, Jorge P, Richie S and others. Until they get a lot younger they are closer to the bottom then the top of the division.
Has anyone noticed that the Sox have won 9 of 12 since the Left Fielder went to L.A.? But I am sure that the Yanks will spend the bank next year to win in there new Park.
if the Red Sox were 19 games ahead of the Yankees with 20 games left, I would still be nervous. I'm not falling for this latest Yankee ploy. They're sandbagging us
It's funny how Hank has the courage to blame it on the injuries. Look who they still have in their line up along with their yearly salary amount:
Alex Rodriguez 28,000,000
Jason Giambi 23,428,571
Derek Jeter 21,600,000
Andy Pettitte 16,000,000
Bobby Abreu 16,000,000
Richie Sexson 15,500,000
Mariano Rivera 15,000,000
Johnny Damon 13,000,000
Ivan Rodriguez 12,379,883
Mike Mussina 11,071,029
Xavier Nady 3,350,000
Robinson Cano 3,000,000
Damaso Marte 2,150,000
Jose Molina 1,875,000
Wilson Betemit 1,165,000
Melky Cabrera 461,200
Jonathan Albaladejo 393,225
Humberto Sanchez 390,000
Therefore, they still have healthy and playing a bunch of players that make up an $185 Million dollars payroll. How can you use the injury of the other players as an excuse for not making it to the playoffs? Look at TB line up or even the Twins line up. They just fell flat in their faces and can't admit it.
Not quite ready to bury them--almost, but not quite. It's never wise to call the Yankees dead until they're dead.
hmm, they do it every year now, don't they?
has to be said though, the only reason yankee fans, which is to say trustees, investors, share holders, wall street pencil-pushers, crawlspace metrosexuals and altogether cogs and spokes, not to mention m. francesa and the rest of the ny media- pulled to re-sign rodriguez last year had nothing to do with his (contract year) numbers, incredible as they were, but rather with the ribald necessity on their behalf to have a yearly someone-something to lay blame on to for how horrific the dividends of steinbrenner sr.'s antics (greed; arrogance; etc) over the last 15 years or so will prove to be for that city and organization.
call it karma, curse (of the rod, anyone?) or whatever you'd prefer, but the yankees will play their games in october, and play plenty.
but yeah, just not baseball.
with 41 games left one must be crazy to count the yankees out........ they play kansas blue jays and orioles the next three series.......... by the end of the 3 series i see them back in the playoff race, maybe a game behind bosox........anyone who follows baseball knows it is too early to count them out.,........... for that matter i don't think the rays will finish at top.......... you need experience come September and sox have a lot of that..........................
Grew up hating the Yankees..and would love to see them dead last..BUT it's still WAY too early to count the out.
How many times have the Yankees seemed completely dead, only to come roaring back at the end of the season and contend? 1978 anyone?, to name only the worst example. Too many for my taste. Here's the reason: the Yankees are dirty stinkin' vampires. To kill them, you have to drive a stake through their hearts, cut off their heads, and stuff their mouths with garlic. Short of that, don't ever count them out. Wallow in it, rejoice in it, once the season's over if they don't make the playoffs, but if you declare them dead they just feed off the karma.
Boomer
As a lifelong Mets fan, I've been burned too many times by those Damn Yankees, not to think that once again, at the last minute, they'll rise from the dead.
She don't sing until the letter E...then again, I am still waiting for them to rise up from the dead like a bad horror movie and win the 2004 ALCS!
It would be more fun to beat 'em like we did in '04, without them going down with so many injuries like we did in '06...they keep life interesting!
There is like a month and half of baseball left... -9 games is nothing.
every year now, huh?
has to be said though, the only reason yankee fans, which is to say trustees, board members, investors, shareholders, wall-street-pencil-pusher types, crawlspace metrosexuals and altogether cogs and spokes, not to mention m. francesa and the remainder of the ny media conglomerate pulled so fervently to re-sign rodriguez had next to nothing to do with with his (contract year) numbers-exceptional as they were- but rather with the ribald obssession on their behalf to have at their disposal a readily someone-something to pleasurably lay blame on for how horrific the dividends of steinbrenner sr.'s antics (greed; arrogance; indifference; etc) over the last 15 years or so will prove to be for that city and organization in the foreseeable future.
call it karma, curse (of the rod, anyone?) or whatever, but the yankees will play (their) games come october, and plenty.
baseball will have nothing to do with that.
Count Dracula out? No way. Not until elimination number is 0.
You know, until the Rays have to play the Angels and until the Angels stumble, we have bigger things to worry about than the Yankees. And focusing too much on the Yankees, well, it see equivalent to jinxing ourselves.
Spot on Jonathan! Was anyone around here alive in 1978? I'll count the Yanks, or any other team out when the math says so....not one game before.
The Yankees coming back seems highly unlikely, but they could easily ruin the Red Sox party with all those head-to-head games they have left. Let's wait until they're truly dead and buried to get the Nelson Muntz yellow index finger out.
Manny Delcarmen, Mike Timlin, David Aardsman, Javier Lopez, Hideki Okajima ...
Yanks still have a great shot at the Wild Card
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, they're still a threat.
ditto to jonathan.... We always say theyre out of it until they win the division and we fight for the wild card
I have been a Red Sox fan for 54 years (was at Fenway for the "Bucky Dent playoff game in '78) and, if there is one thing I have learned, NEVER count the Yankees out!!!!!
GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you kidding me?!!!! These are the NYY. I am a Red Sox fan and I never count them out for a season untill the math says they are done. The RS and NYY meet again in NY and Boston. Alot can happen between now and then. RS without Manny are yet to fold but it can happen at any time and the NYY will be in the running for the wild card. Get a grip you media guys. NYY out of it? No way or the Yankees are not the team they used to be. What's up with Hanky Stanky. He doesn't have an ounce of class; can't possibly fill a portion of his father's shoes.
They gotten killed with injuries this year and I dont care what anyone says...thats what did them in. They would normally be ok because TB is never in it so they could cruise behind us in the WC, but not this year.
Before the season started it was all them, now they're a couple weeks from being done. The Sox better not get too lax though because they can come back at any time....they still have the talent to do it.
I think so even though the Yanks still have to play us and Tampa 6 more times each. They would have to almost sweep us both in addition to winning all of the series with the Royals and Baltimore down the stretch... Ding dong, the witch is dead!!!
It's funny how Hank has the courage to blame it on the injuries. Look who they still have in their line up along with their yearly salary amount:
Alex Rodriguez 28,000,000
Jason Giambi 23,428,571
Derek Jeter 21,600,000
Andy Pettitte 16,000,000
Bobby Abreu 16,000,000
Richie Sexson 15,500,000
Mariano Rivera 15,000,000
Johnny Damon 13,000,000
Ivan Rodriguez 12,379,883
Mike Mussina 11,071,029
Xavier Nady 3,350,000
Robinson Cano 3,000,000
Damaso Marte 2,150,000
Jose Molina 1,875,000
Wilson Betemit 1,165,000
Melky Cabrera 461,200
Jonathan Albaladejo 393,225
Humberto Sanchez 390,000
Therefore, they still have healthy and playing a bunch of players that make up an $185 Million dollars payroll. How can you use the injury of the other players as an excuse for not making it to the playoffs? Look at TB line up or even the Twins line up. They just fell flat in their faces and can't admit it.
I'm a yankee fan....We are horrible, feel free to count us out. april 09 cant come soon enuf
if the Red Sox were 19 games ahead of the Yankees with 20 games left, I would still be nervous. I'm not falling for this latest Yankee ploy. They're sandbagging us
Sorry all you Red Sox cry babies. The yankees are dead. Who cares about 1978? Remember 2004? This is a new era and it's the Yankees who are the chokers/losers. They may make a run but it will be to fall painfully short. Sound familiar?
Not until they are mathematically eliminated will they be out of the race. I never count them out. Remember last season?
I guarantee you neither the Rays nor Red Sox are counting the Yankees out, and either am I.
You just have to laugh!!!!
They make trades, spend all that money and they are still average!!!
Big names do not make a great tream......Look at the Sox - they have gotten better with out Manny.
See Ya Yankees ....at the gold course that is!
Yankees have too much dormant offense and a sprinkling of pitching to just go away. I do not expect them to make the playoffs, but I believe they will stay in the race for the next 4-6 weeks.
with 41 games left one must be crazy to count the yankees out........ they play kansas blue jays and orioles the next three series.......... by the end of the 3 series i see them back in the playoff race, maybe a game behind bosox........anyone who follows baseball knows it is too early to count them out.,........... for that matter i don't think the rays will finish at top.......... you need experience come September and sox have a lot of that..........................
The Yanks are old. Jeter, Mussina, Petitte, Rivera, Posada, Damon, Giambi all have high mileage. Only good young players they have is Wang and Joba. But look at the Sox: Pedroia, Papelbon, Dice-K, Beckett, Lester, Ellsbury, Masterson, Lowrie are all under 30. Only players nearing the end is Varitek and Wakefield.
All of these Yogi quotes..
hmm.. he also said they give you cash which is just as good as money!:^)
I'm almost 50. So, yar I remember 74' ,78', Nineteen Eighteen!!! and other things not fit for print.
I remember the wait 'till next year. At one time a Yankee fan prior to 04' said. Do you know the difference between a Fenway Frank and a Yankee Dog..... You can still but a Yankee Dog in October!"
Since 04, 07' the Celts' and ahem.. Pat's. It's really nice watching this from the other side of the fence!
I see they haven't won since 99'. I love it!
The tide has turned. The curse is dead. This isn't your fathers Red Sox team!
Go Sox! Bring home another Championship!
The Yankees now have a the magic "anti-number", and I believe it is 9 games. In other words, you can count down from 9 the number of losses they can now afford. Anything less than 32-9 and they don't make it.
C'mon Johnny Damon and Co., you'll think of something. After all, that's the "Yankee Way."
Hahahahahahaha
I will say they are done when they are 9 out with 9 left. They pulled together last year,and have a way of playing their buns off when it is necessary. This may be a different season with the injuries and all, but this is still the Yankees here.
I hate them, but ya gotta respect the potential.
Also, even if they are out, I guarantee they would LOVE to play spoiler later in the season! Last series at Fenway? Maybe the Sox need a couple wins for playoffs? Maybe the Yanks pull themselves up long enough to tick us off at the end! This is whay I love/loathe this game!!!
As long as there are games to be played NY is feared in my mind..
It would be nice to count them out and the Red Sox in but at age 75 I still remember 48 and 49, let alone 78 and 2003. Indeed this is a new Red Sox era with management that is head and shoulders above the somnolent but lovable Yawkey days (not lovable for the race thing) and i think confidence is the order of the day. And whuile the Sox have been getting younger the Yankees are getting older. So watch out for the Rays and the Twins. and how about the Angels?
No need to Fret Yankees " Wait Til Next Year "
I absolutely love it, its hilarious, that kind of payroll and look what its gotten them. money doesnt buy everything
I wouldn't count them out yet. But to paraphrase Yogi Berra, "It's getting late early over there..."
I remember the days when Globe reporters and columnists primarily focused on the Red Sox and not about the Yankees and ex-players (Manny). Maybe it's just me, but the Red Sox are underachieving and the front office has made moves that have the current team worse (on paper and on the field) than it was on Opening Day. Bulletin: the bullpen is not playoff caliber! But hey, let's bury the Yanks because they are six games back on Aug 13th and let's have more articles about Manny's hair and how he crosses the street outside of the crosswalks...
Ssshhhhh, don't wake them up.....
I'm sorry, who said "it ain't over till it's over?'
Never, never, NEVER count the Yankees out. Past history has taught us that and those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. Let's just hope the Red Sox can play their hearts out for the rest of the season and render this a moot point to be debated in NYC.
~~~As much as I wish for it - count out the NYY at your peril...
As long as there are games to be played NY is feared in my mind..
As long as ESPN remains on the air the yankees will always appear to have a chance. It's an absolute joke!
I know lots of Sox fans like to focus on the past, but let's look at the present. A couple of games now including last nights it looked like the Yankee's have laid down. I don't think Giradi is the answer for that team. With the injuries to their starting pitchers, Wang and Joba, I just don't see that they have another Small who will turn in a magical season for them. Plus, being 6 back in the wild card and needing to pass two teams to get into position, it's a pretty tall order. Mussina is ancient so who knows how long he'll hold up. Pettite is shaky. Mo is old. Jeter has been in and out of the line up as has Damon. This version of the Yankees just don't seem to have the mojo of past seasons. It seems like they are going through the motions. I realize they have some cream puffs ahead on the schedule, but so do the Sox. 6 games with Baltimore, 9 with Toronto, 4 with Cleveland. All the Sox need to do is split with the Yanks. The Sox have their next 10 games against very beatable teams. Now stop hyperventilating about the Yankees and start enjoying the rest of the season!
It's August and way too early to call it.
Haven't you seen the movies? Just when you think the villain is dead, he jumps up and tries to kill you. The Yankees are like that.
the yanks are old. they need to get younger. Jeter, Mussina, Petitte, Rivera, Posada, Damon, Giambi all have high mileage. only good young players they have is Wang and Joba. But look at the Sox: Pedroia, Papelbon, Dice-K, Beckett, Lester, Ellsbury, Masterson et al are all under 30. Only players near the end is Varitek and Wakefield.
"Sorry all you Red Sox cry babies. The yankees are dead. Who cares about 1978? Remember 2004? This is a new era and it's the Yankees who are the chokers/losers. They may make a run but it will be to fall painfully short. Sound familiar?"
Yeah, it sounds like the same mantra people clung to last season when the Yanks looked out of it before storming back and almost taking the division in the last few weeks. Or even more painfully, it sounds like what people were saying when the Yankees performed abysmally to start out 2006.
Anything can happen and no real longtime Sox fan is complacent or naive enough to truly count the Yankees out until they are mathematically eliminated. Don't get smug, it makes the rest of us look bad.
Yankees have too much dormant offense and a sprinkling of pitching to just go away. I do not expect them to make the playoffs, but I believe they will stay in the race for the next 4-6 weeks.
Its sad when Sox fans have more faith in a most hated team than Yankee fans. Most NY papers and NYY fans seem to have them done and out of October if they loose one game (guess they are supposed to win all games) - it doesn't matter if its April or August....and we are the only ones saying, "gosh, don't count them out yet..." Their own fans have given up on them....
Well, we'll get it together...our BP will be fine, you'll see....the BP is having a bad week..the offense is having a good week....now we just need to get both of them to have a good week...
I never guessed that I would have more faith in the Yankees (whom I loathe, for the record) than anyone named Steinbrenner. At least the Boss, while erratic, was never a quitter...
No need to Fret Yankees " Wait Til Next Year "
I absolutely love it, its hilarious, that kind of payroll and look what its gotten them. money doesnt buy everything
Too bad these are not the 1966 & 67 Yankees that were eliminated by the All Star Break, but after they sweep their old buddies the Royals this weekend they will be back in the race.
Of course the Yanks still have a chance.
But they suck. Their pitching sucks. Their defense sucks. Their bench sucks. Their top 9 players or so average around 35 years old.
To read the worry 'round here, the fatalism, it's like the last 4 years never happened. The Yanks haven't won the Series since last century, their core is dinged up and Posada's out.
The Sox should take note of the Yankees and respect their bats, but worrying about them? For what? Events of 30 years ago?
The Sox aren't the choke artists with the nervous manager types anymore. They wear Pinstripes.
Mariano Rivera 15,000,000 = Underpaid
Hank's Yanks were doomed from the day the front office nixed the acquisition of Santana...they are lucky Mussina has been a stud or they would be in 4th...How does that non-trade look now, Cabrera, Kennedy and Hughes have been stiffs from the start, and Santana would be headed for 20 wins with the Yanks run support and Rivera closing out his starts.
Real classy to run that RIP to the Yankee season on the same front page as the murder of Bill Gwatney. The New York Post is a joke.
Unless & until the Yankees are mathematically eliminated, don't count them out. I've seen them come on strong near the end of the season many times.
Okay, seriously, why has no one mentioned the fact that the NY Post actually ran a real-live murder story next to a "The Yankees Are Dead" tombstone?
Classy.
No, actually, it makes me sick. Egregious.
they're not totally out of it but their sorry defense isn't helping their case. still, august is the month to make a big push and usually shows who will hang around come october, and the yankees don't appear to be one of them.
In 60 years this is my most disappointing yankee season. No hustle, same mistakes over and over again. Baseball is simply not fun any more. We need pitching get another out fielder, We need a pinch hitter and we send up the milk man, we need to shut them out in the 8th and we let then tack on. Day after day we look for the PRIDE to return-it does't. What a shame for the old ball yard to go out in disgrace. Where is Billy when we need him?
Never count the empire out. remember a couple years ago when they came in and swept us in five miserable games. Never count them out until the last breath is out of them.
The Yankee situation isn't looking good but there's plenty of baseball left. And despite losing Wang and Joba I don't think their pitching is *that* bad. Rasner is not awful. Don't know about Geiss. Mussina is on pace for the first 20-win season of his long career (hello, new contract!) Petite is struggling a bit of late but I doubt he's going to be bad for the rest of the season. And then Joba will be back. I think the Yankees are out only if the Rays and Sox continue to play well. If any team goes on an extended streak either way, winning or losing, then it could be over for one of these teams. The Red Sox needn't worry about the Yankees (except for when they're playing them). They just need to keep focused on winning games. It's critical that the Sox don't go into any prolonged slide because you need to assume the Rays are going to continue winning and that the Yankees are capable of a run, which they always do at the end of the season. Hopefully the Sox will not lose 2 (or maybe 3) in a row at any point going forward. Should make for an interesting final couple of months. The Sox haven't been consistently good since the All-Star break but I'm hoping they will peak at the right time, into the fall. They'll need to if they make the playoffs and have to face the Angels (which they will if they're the Wild Card).
"Only players near the end is Varitek and Wakefield."
Thing is, you can SEE things coming to a close for Varitek. Aside from what now seems to be an annual year-end (and year-ending, maybe) shoulder tightness, you don't see Wake's effectiveness deteriorating. He's in great shape, and throws a lot of effective innings for the club. And as far as his now-annual injuries, what Sox pitcher HASN'T seen one thing or another this year? Only Lester, and maybe Papelbon, I think. Okajima has been mostly ineffective, Beckett had some pains and went through a malaise, Buckholz I don't have to tell you about, Timlin may be reaching the end, etc., etc. Dice-K had a fine year but even he had some struggles at one point.
Taking the whole staff into account, Wake looks kind of irreplaceable. Who's going to make up all those innings if he's let go?
Hank's Yanks were doomed from the day the front office nixed the acquisition of Santana...they are lucky Mussina has been a stud or they would be in 4th...How does that non-trade look now, Cabrera, Kennedy and Hughes have been stiffs from the start, and Santana would be headed for 20 wins with the Yanks run support and Rivera closing out his starts.
They're done. At some point, to quote Bill Parcells, "you are what you are." They are a little bit better than .500 and they don't have any pitchers that scare you. You think you can hit every one of them. They have to climb over like four teams to get to the wilcard front. Forget it. 41 games, 31 games, 81 games, they are done, I don't care who they are playing.
D O N E
Maybe they've stumbled. Maybe they're down.
Maybe (not yet), the Rays, RedSox (and even the Twins and/or ChiSox) will have their boots planted firmly on the Yankees' throats . . .
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Not until that neck snaps, and the corpse convulses into mortis, will I be satisfied that the Yankees are out of the hunt.
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I hate them; I respect them; I want them dead . . . at least until next season.
Cashman can do the math. The Yankees' RISP is under .260 and they're likely to score fewer than 800 runs this year compared to 968 in 2007. Those are not AL East title-winning figures.
Bob Bachelder redsoxvyankees.com
Everyone who references 1978 forgets one little tidbit of information: The 1978 Yankees happened to be very good. That team had consistent hitting and, more importantly, good pitching. You can't say the same for the dismal 2008 Yankees, which would have to leapfrog several superior teams in order to make the playoffs.
2004 changed everything. The bullies were put in their place, and the Yankees no longer scare anyone.
I have seen it all before, I am 58. This team has amazed me so many times. They could start a 10 game winning streak tonight and make for an interesting September.
I know it looks crappy right now, but lets see what happens with the rest of August.
Sox and Yankees still have 2 series left against each other. The Sox are not in yet.
They have a ton of talent but no pride.
The Yankees are streaky, Derek Jeter has been the one of the reasons yankees are having trouble. Truth be said he is a great player, but when he was hit by a pitch in Baltimore he went into a slump. Arod has had a below .250 average with runners in scoring position, most of his ribbies are add ons and most of his homers are one run this season. Bobby is in a slump, Melky can't hit at all. Giambi and Cano are batting around .250. Johnny Damon is great with runners in scoring position, but he leads off. Hideki's out, Wang's out, Jorge's out, Hughes is terrible and he's out, Kennedy is terrible and he's out, Joba's now out, Jeter was out, Arod was out, Johnny was out, and the latest Dan Geise. Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy still haven't collected a win, both have era higher than seven.
Mussina's bad angainst the bosox. Andy isn't doing that well, he has a bad era. Rasner really? Ponson really? Joba's .. great, but injured the same with dan giese. The Yankees are great fielders some bad mistakes by Melky. Just to add Pudge hasn't been hitting and since he doesn't know the pitching staff he hasn't done that well. Richie Sexson should have been good by the numbers but he hasn't come through. Hideki's great but gone for the season. Xavier great but they won't bat him fifth. Jose Molina great defensively but no where else has he shown the same amount of skill. Yankee rookies Brett Gardner and Justin Christian are fast and look promising, but can't hit. Joe Girardi has done well with these insanely high payed players. It's not like he can bat jeter or arod somewhere other than 2 and 4
The bullpen is great except for Latroy Hawkins and Kyle Farnsworth but the Yankees got rid of them. The bullpen is almost completely made of rookies except for Mariano. Mariano is having an outstanding year in save situations, but if it's not a save situation he doesn't do so well. One reason this is happening is when Mo is used in a non-save opportunity it is usually because he hasn't been used for a while and needs some work, so he might be "Rusty". Ivan might be the reason the bullpen hasn't doing well, since he is completely new to the team he doesn't know the pitchers well. In the end I'm a Yankee Fan!
Been a fan since the days of Bobby Mercer & Roy White...stick afork into a team that I see not giving 100%.Every team gets injuries & the Yanks have been hit extra hard this year, but my gut tells me if TORRE was still here & we had a Brosius or an O'Neill in the clubhouse & dugout, this season might be different.
I love it. Mr. Torre does too, I'msure. But you fired him, remember. So now you swim in your own soup, and watch other teams in the playoffs. Who will the yankee fans cheer for? The Redsox? I don't think so. Probably Tampa (lol). Like Hank says (had to think its no longer George) "We'll be good next year. Well you sure aren't this year. Mabe you should get another Steinbrenner relative to run your comedy show.
Hank says injuries are too much to overcome. I say bullshit. The Red Sox lost Papi for awhile, Lowell and Manny, Wake and Schill, the other ss (what's his name, Lugone ?). Clay looks done for season. We've moved forward w/ guys like Pedroia, Youk, JD, Ellsbury and Bay, not to mention Beckett and Dice-K. What does the Yankees have still ? A-Rod,I-Rod,Jeter,Damon,Giambi, not to mention Pettite,Mussina,Joba and Mariano. Some big names in there you say? I agree, and the payroll is certain indication. Hank, your Yankees just SUCK, and Red Sox nation LOVES IT..
Sox and Yankees still have 2 series left against each other. The Sox are not in yet.
They have a ton of talent but no pride.
The Yankees are streaky, Derek Jeter has been the one of the reasons yankees are having trouble. Truth be said he is a great player, but when he was hit by a pitch in Baltimore he went into a slump. Arod has had a below .250 average with runners in scoring position, most of his ribbies are add ons and most of his homers are one run this season. Bobby is in a slump, Melky can't hit at all. Giambi and Cano are batting around .250. Johnny Damon is great with runners in scoring position, but he leads off. Hideki's out, Wang's out, Jorge's out, Hughes is terrible and he's out, Kennedy is terrible and he's out, Joba's now out, Jeter was out, Arod was out, Johnny was out, and the latest Dan Geise. Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy still haven't collected a win, both have era higher than seven.
Mussina's bad angainst the bosox. Andy isn't doing that well, he has a bad era. Rasner really? Ponson really? Joba's .. great, but injured the same with dan giese. The Yankees are great fielders some bad mistakes by Melky. Just to add Pudge hasn't been hitting and since he doesn't know the pitching staff he hasn't done that well. Richie Sexson should have been good by the numbers but he hasn't come through. Hideki's great but gone for the season. Xavier great but they won't bat him fifth. Jose Molina great defensively but no where else has he shown the same amount of skill. Yankee rookies Brett Gardner and Justin Christian are fast and look promising, but can't hit. Joe Girardi has done well with these insanely high payed players. It's not like he can bat jeter or arod somewhere other than 2 and 4
Jonathan great to mention last year, but by this time the yankees were surging not free falling. Well, there 1st game against creme-puff KC went really well. They are done,finished, through, probably finish 4th. Oh my God I've jinxed the Red Sox!!! Hahahahaha I ashamed of all these "red sox fans" bloggers cringing in fear of a yankee uprising. Do we have the better team? Do we have more heart? Do we have more confidence as a team? Well then, stop cringing and wetting your pants and enjoy the ride. Maybe we don't have the bullpen for the playoffs, but we will be there and the yankees will not.
I love it. Mr. Torre does too, I'msure. But you fired him, remember. So now you swim in your own soup, and watch other teams in the playoffs. Who will the yankee fans cheer for? The Redsox? I don't think so. Probably Tampa (lol). Like Hank says (had to think its no longer George) "We'll be good next year. Well you sure aren't this year. Mabe you should get another Steinbrenner relative to run your comedy show.
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