Francoeur for Greinke?
LAS VEGAS -- Here are a couple of other things to add to colleague Nick Cafardo's list of items from late last night/this morning:
According to one National League executive, the Kansas City Royals and Atlanta Braves have had serious discussions about a trade that would send outfielder Jeff Francoeur to the Royals for pitcher Zack Greinke. The same source said he believed the teams were close to executing the deal, but that Atlanta was holding up trade discussions until the Braves had a resolution of their pursuit of free agent righthander A.J. Burnett. Royals general manager Dayton Moore (who interviewed for the Red Sox job during Theo Epstein's walkabout in 2005-06) is a former member of the Braves organization and is eager to bring the outfielder to Kansas City.
Also, in an attempt to cut payroll, the Houston Astros are making it clear that Miguel Tejada and Ty Wigginton are available. Trading Tejada would save more money, but Houston also believes the only way to trade the veteran shortstop is to take salary back in return. The Astros reportedly are interested in shaving their payroll by about $10 million and Tejada's 2009 salary is $13 million.



I think someone's pulling a fast one on ole Tony, why why why would the Royals ever do that? Greinke is probably the Royals most valuable player whereas Francouer was maybe the worst player in the majors last year...
KC would be the dumbest organization in the league if they did that trade. There has to be a lot more going to the Royals for that trade to happen. It would basically be a similar package as was offered in the Peavy discussions. Francouer was so bad last year that he was sent down and Greinke has made strides towards becoming one of the most solid starting pitchers in the league. You might want to do more investigating before reporting.
Francoeur for Greinke makes so little sense on every level that I can't believe you even printed it. Do you even know who Greinke is? Have you read ANYTHING about the Royals' supposed asking price? It's a HELL of a lot more than Jeff Freaking Francoeur. If Dayton did actually pull this trade, he wouldn't make it back to his office through all the rioting fans.
No way Dayton Moore is that stupid to trade Greinke for Francoeur, is he? Francoeur has zero offensive value and he is lousy defensively.
That executive should be fired for even mentioning such an absurd idea... Moore may be infatuated with Atlanta and Franceour, but Greinke has 2 cheap years left on his contract. AND, if Moore were willing to make this move it would be done because Atlanta would have already signed the papers because they would be getting such a steal.
Would the Sox be interested in making a deal for Tejada?? They can try to do something creative such as Tejada & Oswalt ( a better option then Burnett imo) for Lugo and prospect (Masterson or Bucholtz)?? The Sox would get some what of an upgrade at SS and a 2nd-3rd in the rotation starter...
The Royals already have too many OFs. Why would they trade for another one?
Okay, say what you will about the down year Francouer had at the plate, but he is far from "lousy" defensively, as some people said here. He's got solid right field speed and one of the strongest arms in the majors.
I don't see the trade happening, but let's not downgrade the guy too much, even though he did have a terrible year.
Please do not bring Tejada here.....One of the most overrated SS around...The guy that suddenly cant speak much english when asked about any HGH or other pharmaceuticals..His numbers since his HGH days are not even close to what they were...BIG mistake for that kind of money
Mazz, please please PLEASE check your basic info....
It's "FRANCOEUR", not Francouer. Geez.
I'm a journalist but even the non-Journos deserve better.
I think that has the lead for most ridiculous trade rumor of the offseason so far. The fact that Atlanta is supposedly the team holding it up, gives it a strong edge when it comes to competing with other ridiculous trade rumors.
Lol. Nobody really wants lugo. And besides, masterson and bucholz isnt nearly enough. Also, nobody said there werent more players in a potential Greinke deal. Either way, the royals have no place to play francouer.
Now Francoeur for Luke Hochevar, that I could see.
Maz I seroisly think you are just making these rumours up while sitting at the blackjack table. Are you blogging with your blackberry at the pool?? Are you really working right now? That would be the most lopsided trade of the year if that happens. I am stupider after reading your post.
Francouer "lousy defensively?" Not really - he's a Gold Glove winner, with easily one of the best arms in baseball. He doesn't have the best range, but he's certainly not a "lousy" defensive player. Now, offensively speaking...yeah, he's a little "challenged" in that department as of late.
As a Braves fan, would this be the steal of the decade - oh yeah! Will it happen...not a chance, unless Dayton Moore is secretly on the Braves pay roll and has a front office spot secured back in ATL once he gets fired in KC.
I hope this rumor isn't true. The Royals fans deserve better. I know that one of you pink hats might say, "What fans?" The Royals were a perennial contender for a good stretch back in the 70's and 80's. They are good fans that know their baseball - Bill James and Rob Neyer spring to mind here. They also loathe the Yankees, not only for the classic battles the teams had back in the day, but also for the way the Yankees consistently used the Kansas City A's as their own personal farm system many years ago. That town, those fans, they deserve better. A beautiful venue to see a game, if only they'd put some decent product on the field. Greinke was finally 'getting it' and now we're hearing this nonsense? Please don't let this be true.
I am a Brave fan I would love to Have greinke But The Braves said about two months ago thye would not make this trade shoot The Braves are looking for out fielders - Jeff Has a great arm they think he will turn his bat around ,Maybe pull the trade for someone else as part of the Braves side of it .The Braves need to go for it and try to keep up with the Mets and phillies shoot look at the Cubs roatation if they trade for Peavy 1-5 are all top starters
Ian - Thanks for the level-headed and respectful response. There are many Royals fans who would cease to be so if Greinke were traded in that lopsided of a deal. This would be a half-step worse than Zambrano for Kazmir, since we don't even have a place for another OF. I know KC may be flyover country for much of the East coast writing clique, but come on, how about a little respect for talent and some semblance of rational reporting. Wait...I just heard that they're saying Ellsbury and Pedroia for Gregg Zaun and Lyle Overbay.
The Grienke idea is ludicrous, but I can see the Royals trading for Francoeur. They could make space for him by unloading Guillen (if they can find a sucker) or trading DeJesus for a middle infielder or pitching help. Yes, Teahen would still be a fourth outfielder, but that's fine. Teahen can contribute to a winning team--he's a fantastic baserunner, a flexible defensive player, and has some pop--but he's stretched as an everyday player. Dayton Moore wants the Royals to win soon, and that means putting players in the kind of roles they can actually fill on competitive teams, rather than roles where they can be showcased for trade or given a chance to break out.
Thank you for fixing that (Francoeur's name), it was driving me nuts.
Glad to be of service.
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