Sabathia, Yankees agree on framework of deal
It appears the top pitching prize on the free agent market has chosen his new baseball home, and it's located in the Bronx.
According to multiple reports, lefthander CC Sabathia and the New York Yankees have agreed on the framework of a seven-year contract for $161 million -- the richest deal ever awarded to a pitcher, topping the six-year deal for $137.5 million that Johan Santana signed with the Mets before last season.
There has been no official confirmation of the signing from the Yankees or Sabathia's representatives, but a baseball official familiar with the talks told the Associated Press this afternoon that the formal agreement will soon be reached. The sides are still working on the no-trade language for a clause that is still being negotiated, according to ESPN's Jayson Stark. Sabathia is expected to fly to New York for a physical in the next few days.
"There’s a lot of layers in the process. Until that process is completed I'm kind of prevented from saying too much," Yankees general manager Brian Cashman told the AP. "Legally I've got to protect myself. And, you know, you're never done until you're done, and so, we're not done."
Gordon Edes and Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports reported that Sabathia has the right to opt out of the contract after the first three years, by which time he will have been paid $69 million. The report said Sabathia had insisted on the clause to satisfy concerns he and his family had about playing in New York.
Sabathia decided to join the Yankees after Cashman met with the pitcher at his home in San Francisco Tuesday, the sides' third meeting in three days.
Cashman traveled to San Francisco after being invited by Sabathia. He joked about flying commercial, even getting in a jab at the Yankees' chief rival.
"We’re not the Red Sox," he said, a reference to the team's use of owner John Henry private plane during negotiations with Daisuke Matsuzaka two offseasons ago.
"They certainly are not, thank goodness!" Red Sox president Larry Lucchino responded in an e-mail to the AP.
Cashman couldn’t recall ever before making a recruiting trip to a free agent’s home. He had remembered seeing it on an episode of “MTV Cribs.”
“When I walked in, I did tell him, it was like: I’ve been here before,” Cashman said.
After putting the framework for an agreement in place, Cashman spent the night at a San Francisco hotel before taking an 8 a.m. flight back to Las Vegas today, the AP reported. Yankees officials, meanwhile, participated in negotiations by phone.
Sabathia, 28, led the Milwaukee Brewers to the playoffs last season going 11-2 with a 1.65 ERA in 17 starts after a midseason trade from Cleveland. Despite his limited time in the National League, he led the circuit with seven complete games.
Sabathia, who is 117-73 with a 3.66 ERA in his eight-year career, won the 2007 Cy Young Award with the Indians after going 19-7 with a 3.21 ERA.
According to the AP, among all players, Sabathia's deal will trail Alex Rodriguez's $252 million, 10-year agreement with Texas, A-Rod's $275 million, 10-year deal with the Yankees and Derek Jeter's $189 million, 10-year contract with the Yankees, ending up in the same area as Manny Ramirez's $160 million, eight-year contract with Boston.
Chad Finn of the Globe staff contributed to this report. Material from the Associated Press was also used.



I am glad the yankee's got him. This will go down as the worst free agent pitcher signing in the history of baseball. I hope they get burnet and sheets to go along with him.
Big whoop! CC folds when it really counts. He's a fantastic pitcher no doubt but the big man can't handle high stress situations. Good luck in pinstripes CC, you're going to need it!
Let them have him. In 3 years we'll be laughing about how the Yankees are stuck paying $20+ million per year on someone who is on the DL more often then not. The Sox have always owned him. I bet Tazawa is a better pitcher within the first 3 years of these deals.
Here are some of CC's postseason numbers ...
He's 2-0 in LDS play (AL only) with a 4.09 ERA. He went 6 and 5 innings in those two starts. He totaled 10 strikeouts and 11 walks. In LCS play (AL only), he's 0-2 with a 10.45 ERA, having allowed 17 hits and 12 earned runs in 10 1/3 innings. In those two games he struck out nine, walked seven and hit three batters. Money pitcher? We'll find out.
Now the dominoes can fall... Get Teixeira BoSox!!!
CC ya!
.....you were CC'd on this posting.
great news for Sox fans!
i think this is a good thing if ur a redsox fan like myself. this is because this means that a major contender in the texeria sweepstakes is a little out of it cuz of signin C.C. now the sox can swoop in and sign tex and win the world series... again! think of it the starting line-up:
1.(CF): Jacoby Ellsbury
2.(2B): Dustin Pedrioa
3.(DH): David Ortiz
4.(1B): Mark Texeria
5.(LF): Jason Bay
6.(RF): J.D. Drew
7.(3B): Kevin Youkillis
8.(SS): Jed Lowrie
9.(C): ????
Now we would just need a new catcher.
THINK ABOUT IT EPSTEIN, YOU CANT LET TEX GO! SIGN HIM... NOW!
I have all the confidence in the world in Theo, but when are the Sox going to do something here?! I am sick of reading about all of these other transactions with other teams. Sign Tex already and get it over with!!
He exceeded in the National League. He should have stayed there. Although he is a winning pitcher, he struggles late in the season, when he is needed most!
@rickb101 - Mike Hampton and Barry Zito would like to have a word with you about that...
Another money chaser!
Big Deal about the signing. Don't get me wrong, he's a good pitcher but maybe I still have the thoughts of him chocking against the Sox in the playoffs a couple of years ago. The Skanks, I mean Yanks, definately overpaid for this one, as usual.
Is anyone OTHER THAN the New York Post reporting that the Yankees have signed C.C. Sabathia yet? While a deal looks to be close (and could very well be imminent), until we hear more from a DIRECT SOURCE (instead of an "unquoted inside source" from the New York Post) we should take this news with a grain of salt. For all we know the deal is CLOSE but not official and the Yankees told the Post to run with the story as a way to pressure C.C. into sealing the deal.
Assuming he DID sign though, I'd say it's a GREAT signing for the Yankees. After all, considering how C.C. ALWAYS folds in October and gets lit up by the Red Sox he'd be a GREAT FIT there!
Take Manny Yanks...! TAKE Manny....!
No Rick:
The worst free agent pitcher signing was Carl Pavano......another Yankee signing...HAHA.........I hate the Yankees, but this guy is a good pitcher. Stop being such Homers everyone. I do agree that the final two years of his contract could be a problem for the Yankees, as he isnt exactly a Golds Gym endorsement candidate.
The only thing that I hope, and I re-iterate, HOPE, is that CC was able to make this decision without the players union forcing him to.
rickb-
I don't think this will be the worst FA pitcher signing in history, but I don't believe that he will be worth 23.5m per year. In addition to this, he really never proved himself in the playoffs with Cleveland. Maybe he did in the NL, but the AL is a different story.
That's all well and good that CC goes to the Yankees. Last year Mussina won 20 for them and they didn't make the playoffs. CC might make up that 20 and they still might not make the playoffs.
Well he can't be a worse signing than Barry Zito or Jason Schmidt.... but if fatty loads up on the street meat while cruisin around the city, the consequences for the sewer system could be monumental.
Wow, fellow RSN.... GET A GRIP.
CC is pretty remarkable how he puts a team on his back and pitches them into the playoffs himself.... things will be a little different in NY. Tazawa better than CC in 3-years, my god....
It is a signing the Yankees needed to make, but if it opens the door for us to get Teixeira then woohoo.
It just goes to show you that the only way anyone will play for the Yankees is if they overpay.CC was praying someone would come close.30 million more than the next offer not very good business
too much money for him - similar to donna pescow's $10,000 episode on Angie
This could be good for them, this could be bad. As it stands, though, I don't think he's worth that money, especially for the Yankees. His career numbers in Yankee Stadium are nothing short of abysmal: 1-4, 8.61 ERA, 1.73 WHIP.
Maybe they were employing the Babe Ruth philosophy, you know, that pinstripes help make you look thinner.
CC is a very good regular season pitcher. One of the best over the past 3-4 years. But he has struggled in the postseason, and he's a few steps below Johan Santana anyway. The only thing that makes this a potentially bad signing is the money, which is clearly no object to the Yanks.
But think of their starting rotation next year: CC, Wang, Joba (possibly), Pettite (posssibly), and then whoever else they come up with. That's a formidable rotation, and with Mariano still closing things out, I think the Yanks will be much improved. Texiera is still the big piece though; Sox pitching is stacked, but they can't expect Papi, Drew, and Lowell to be healthy and productive all year. They've gotta get another big bat.
I love that signing Texiera (who will get more money than Sabathia) is a foregone conclusion. Just write it in ink.
This is NOT good for the Red Sox. Now the Angels can turn their full attention toward Texeira, making it harder for the Sox to compete for his services.
Well if the Sox don't sign him, the only black player on the team would be David Ortiz and he's not even African American. That wouldn't look good for us.
If the Sox can sign Big Tex and Burnett, this could be the most complete team going into a season... possibly ever, at least in Red Sox history. Still it is a great signing by the Yanks, however I think if the Sox signed him it would have been a better deal mainly because the Red Sox know how to handle their pitchers better than anyone in the league, thats why Burnett is huge if they can get him.
"This is NOT good for the Red Sox. Now the Angels can turn their full attention toward Texeira, making it harder for the Sox to compete for his services."
The Angels F.O. themselves have said they are certain they won't be the top bidder. That may be posturing on their part, but the Sox definitely have deeper pockets than the Angels. One of us is probably going to overpay for him really bad.
Either way, Tex is a luxury that's attractive, yet unnecessary. If the season started tomorrow, we're still in a better position to win the division next season than the Yankees are.
This is the best signing the yankees could have made. I dont know how you guys can say anything different. I am scared, CC is nasty
I'm guessing the Angels will re-sign Texeira, now that K-Rod has signed with the Mets and CC has apparently signed with the Yankees. Maybe the Sox should get in on Sheets (offer 2 years, $30 million). Beckett, Lester, Dice-K, Sheets and [take your pick @ #5] would be the best rotation in baseball, even if the Cubs get Peavy.
I agree, the Yankees gave CC 1-2 years too many. But as is often the case, GM's face a choice of whether to offer that extra "throw away" year to seal the deal. The Mets offered Pedro 4 years after 2004; the Yankees offered Damon 4 years after 2005. You decide, as a GM, whether having the last year wasted will be worth it if the player gives you quality the first "X" number of years of the deal. Pedro was great for the Mets in '05 and most of '06 (before he got hurt). He was probably a worthwhile signing for the Mets. Damon has had one very good/great year (2006), one down year (2007) and one decent/good year (2008). Not sure Cashman would do it again, if he could turn back time.
CC will probably give the Yankees 15-17 wins, a 3.80-ish ERA and 200+ innings, per year, for the next 4-5 years. After that, they may be eating his contract.
Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from the red sux nation !
Another sell out! So much for "CC not being about the money and taking the last dollar" Just another fraud!! I had respect for the man, but now he 's in the same boat as all other sellouts. What happened to wanting to be home? Loving to hit and play in the NL? How much friggin money is enough? He couldn't be happy with 18/20 mil a year? Good luck to him if the fans start booing him if his post-season track record continues...ask A-Fraud how that is working for him!
You know what: If the Angels get Teixiera, so what. He was a force in the playoffs (haha). We beat them with a gimpy Mike Lowell.
Everybody comes back stronger next year: Drew, Lowell, Papi, Bay, Youk, Dustin, Jed, Jacoby and a new catcher! This team is fine the way it is built now. I utility guy (Lugo) and a 4th outfielder (Kapler) and it's back to the world series!
Relax everybody!
What makes everyone think the Yankees can't get Texiera too? The lopped $90 mil off last years payroll. This adds $23 mil back to the payroll. That means they still have $67 mil more to spend just to get back to even. Who says they can't get Tex, Burnett and Lowe....plus others???
7 years for a starting pitcher is crazy but make no mistake, the Yankees SIGNIFICANTLY upgraded their pitching staff today if the Post report is accurate.
Say what you want about his playoff numbers, they are terrible, but I think a major reason for those '07 and '08 playoff stats are the 241 and 253 innings that he logged in those respective regular seasons. There's a fine line between being a horse and being overworked but the Indians and Brewers stepped way over that line the last couple of years. And can we stop with the "NL" stuff already? He won the AL Cy Young just a year ago and was pretty dominant for Cleveland for the first few months of the season except for those first 4 disastrous starts.
I hate the Yankees just as much as the next person but I'm not going to let that blind the fact that they just added a legitimate ace to their staff, even if he may not be that ace for a good portion of this contract. Now hopefully Epstein can respond by signing Teixeira...
Imagine C.C., Joba, and Chris Britton going out to dinner together? I hope the Yanks make that a reality show.
Signing makes total sense from Yanks' POV. Their pitching is a disaster area, they have the funds to pay hilarious sums to secure not one but several free agent pitchers, and now is a crucial time for the organization to recover the "prestige of the Yankee brand" as they open for business in a new stadium full of $850 K luxury suites to sell and $2500 seats to fill. Sabathia is a fine pitcher and likely to remain so for several years before the cumulative mileage on that arm and overweight frame takes its toll. But the Sox don't need to break the bank for a FA starting pitcher--or for anybody, for that matter. Happily our city has an awfully good baseball organization, and I look forward to its choices with a good deal of confidence they will be strategic and sound.
It appears, again, that the Yankees overpaid. Clearly, from the apparent lack of interest fom the west coast teams, Sabathia was way over-valued. There was no way in hell that he would be playing for anyone other than the Yanks. So be it. I seem to remeber a certain Mr. Johnson who didn't care for playing in the Big Apple. I certainly hope the same fate falls unto our NYC counterparts.
Texiera is the real PRIZE in free Agency, not CC, as many believe. The Sox currently have the 20mill/year available from Manny, & certainly have more available due to inflationary costs over the length of a contract. I don't think the Angels can even come up with 20mill up front , never mind the usual increase in the year over year contract costs. The important thing about the Yankees signing CC, is that it probably takes the Yanks out of the Texiera Sweepstakes & Theo can avoid a bidding war against them for Texiera. Can Youk catch? Hell, he has shown a great propensity to excel at other positions when asked. How awesome would that be? I don't doubt that Youk could end up being pretty good if he put his heart into it as he does everything else he does on the Diamond. Keep Varitek around to work/teach him.
Be realistic folks. If CC has a great year, which he probably will, his 20 wins only replaces Mussina's performance last year! They will also lose Petitte, who won 14 games. So they lose their top lefthander, and a total of 34 wins, and replace it with CC. I think it is a good and necessary signing, but not enough to make them competitive. Adding Burnett would now make them competitive, and he is a proven Sox killer, unlike CC. Hope that the Braves get serious on him. Lowe could also help the Yanks, but I have a feeling he will be the last of the big starters to sign anywhere. Well done, Cashman. Now figure out who plays CF. Tee hee.
Fatso wasn't so great in Cleveland. Great in the NL - big deal.
It would be awesome if the yankees could adopt the "biggest loser" model by just having fat pitchers. joba is big, but cc is much bigger.....
This is great news for the Red Sox. Any huge contract for free agent pitchers is very high risk no matter how good they are. Just do some research.
Sabathia has not had a lot of success against the Red Sox. What he did for Milwaukee was the NATIONAL LEAGUE, folks. The landscape is littered with AL pitchers than went to the NL and pitched lights out but it was a completely different story when they pitched in the AL (Rudy Seanez anyone ?). Just look at a couple of our own guys from the past, Derek Lowe and Bronson Arroyo, both of whom have significantly better numbers in the NL. Look at Roger Clemens and his numbers (albeit chemically enhanced) for the Astros.
If Yankee fans actually think that Sabathia will put up numbers in the AL like he did for the Brewers down the stretch, they are in for a very rude awakening.
And the patience in NY for this guy will be short. If he gets off to a slow start the pressure will increase. They won't stand for any physical problems that cause him to miss starts either. Not for 160 million dollars. For the Yankees to think this guy is worth more than Johan Santana is pure folly.
This still keeps the Yankees behind the Red Sox and the Rays in the AL East. And that's without any big splashes by either of those teams yet.
I want to see the reaction of Yankee fans should Sabathia get shelled on opening day of the new Yankee Stadium. That would be priceless.
CC has been spotted working out with Mo Vaughn and David Wells.
Hey Ellis Burks, how can you call their rotation formidable when two of the four pitchers you have down for them categorized as "possibly"? I agree that it helps them (obviously), but not to the degree that everyone might think.
We'll see how CC does back in the AL, pitching under the burning spotlight of NYC.
Im not understanding how the Yankee$ signing the best available free-agent pitcher should make Sox fans happy.
Nothing about it will help the Sox in any way, including re: signing Tex.
If this report is true (the ny post has been wrong before) it should accelerate FA activity and other signings. It would have been a HUGE embarrassment for the yanks if CC didn’t accept their HUGE offer. I hope Theo employs the same tenacity in going after Tex that the yanks have shown in getting the man they absolutely wanted. You know the angels are going to put the full-court press on Borass to get Tex to sign with them and they have deep pockets too. Regardless of what the fans want, the Sox won't overpay for any player. Fingers crossed.
This is an insane deal for the Yankess, who seem to have learned nothing from Carl Pavano. The fact that they acted in such haste, for such a large number, smacks of desperation. And coming on the heels of their refusal to even offer Pettite the same deal he had last year, all in all it's quite surprising.
The Yankees must have been terribly concerned that (a) they replace Messina with another vet, (b) that Wang won't return to form, (c) that Petite is done (whether they sign him or not), (d) that Chamberlain isn't the slam-dunk they thought, and (e) that their up-and-coming young pitchers will wash out.
This signing does seem to make it less likely that they would go all-out for Tex, though I expect they'll make SOME effort.
As far as the Angels competing to keep Tex - stop joking. They couldn't compete for their closer. They're not keeping Tex, either.
I mean in my opinion the AL is alot more competitive then the NL.. When CC pitched in Cleveland he was above average.. When he pitched in the NL he was dominant. In my opinion he should of stayed in the NL but whatever.. He'll probably will 13-15 games for the yanks and have a record of about 14-5.. Good numbers and all but with the yankees team I mean what pitcher can't win 10 games?? All in all i guess a pretty good signing but for 7 flippin years at 160 mill... DAMN.. that's a big overpay in my opinion.
And here's everyone in the real world, struggling to make ends meet, living paycheck to paycheck, people facing lay-offs and job losses and the #@!#$*&@ yankees pay money like that to a guy who can throw a ball. Sick. What happened to the joy of playing sports? It's such a cut-throat business - all sports. I read about former baseball and hockey players having to get off-season jobs back in the 70s and that wasn't that long ago! It's disgusting what players in all sports are paid these days. And I am a huge sports fan!
'This will go down as the worst free agent pitcher signing in the history of baseball. '
Really? Worse than Barry Zito?
This signing may finally bankrupt the Yankees once and for all.
Oh please, if the Sox had signed him you clowns would be howling about how he's the greatest pitcher ever. He ran out of gas last year in the playoffs because Milwaukee ran him into the ground late in the season, the Yankees won't do that. Boston can now fight with the Angels over Teixera, NY didn't want him anyway. As for "money chaser"? If the Sox do sign Teixera will you say the same thing about him? Didn't think so.
I will be surprised if the Red Sox sign any high-priced free agents. I believe there are making an effort to reduce payroll. We shall see.
CC chokes in the playoffs, hes a perfect fit for the yankees
I think CC is exactly what New York needs. They have plenty of potential to score runs and have some excellent players on roster (argue as you might, there's no denying the talent they have). They really needed to shore up their rotation and with CC as an anchor, I'm sure they'll do fine. He's an excellent pitcher and I really think you have to take last postseason as an exception: how many starts on 3 days rest did he have?
I am happy with how this (hopefully) opens up our chance at signing Texiera.
"It just goes to show you that the only way anyone will play for the Yankees is if they overpay"
And what will you call it when/if Theo outbids the Angels for Teix?
Ryan, you're a boob. It's great news for Boston because it all but takes the Yankees out of the Texeira sweepstakes, and now we are only competing with 1 team instead of 2.
Next, to the Ellis Burkes impersonator, you are an even bigger boob. Andy Petite will not be rejoining the Yankees and is going to end up in LA pitching for the Dodgers.
Next-to Rick B, you are the biggest putz of all! The Red Sox are going to get AJ Burnett, not the Yankees. The Yanks will end up with either Sheets or Lowe, and their Rotation will look like this: Santana, Wang, Sheets, Chamberlain, Hughes:which will be a vast impreovement from last year. They will also have Ian Kennedy incase Hughes doesn't return to form during Spring Training.
The Sox will sign Texeira and Burnett, then they will trade Lowell possibly to the White Sox or the Brewers.
And W...you are a fucking schmuck! Do you really list Youkelis as batting 7th in the lineup? Are you fucking retarded? You wanna drop a guy with 115 RBI to 7th? He will hit 3rd, Tex will hit clean up and PAPI will drop to 5th in the order!
Let's not go overboard with the "CC the choker" rhetoric. Have we roughed him up a couple times in October? Sure. But he's still an elite pitcher who will be a workhorse for the Yankees for at least the first three years of this deal. He's a hefty fellah in the chubby mold of El Guapo, but seriously my fellow Sox fans, this guy can pitch and has proven to be durable thus far. I fully expect him to fill in the slot that Mussina leaves behind- winning 17-22 games each year for the next several.
While I hope the Sox response is to sign Teixeira, I trust Sox Management to make good long-term choices for our team.
It will be funny, CC folds in big games and perhaps he doesn't quite realize that all of the games, including those in April, are big games between the Yankees and the Red Sox atmosphere wise. It would be wise of the Yankees to sit down and figure out their rotation to make sure CC doesn't pitch or at least doesn't pitch the last game in a series...I was just thinking, um, who are the rest of the Yankees starters? No Petitte, no Mussina, um....And while the Angels are a worry to draw Texiera away (as are, oddly the Nationals), the Angels now need a closer whereas I imagine they have a good farm system in which a first baseman might be ready.
Ryan , I agree, the angels will go after tex hard. But I honestley beleive that tex wants to play in boston, it's close to his home and he has stated that he loves the atmosphere in boston. I hope the sox make a big push for texiera. Let the angels pick up that scumbag manny. We'll take the real professional in texiera.
Word is CC can opt out of this deal after the 3rd year, don't be shocked if he does ala A-Rod and he's back on the market after 2011.
The Yankees got a good 1-2 punch now with Wang and CC. But what else? Unless they sign one of Burnett/Lowe/Sheets, I'm not worried. Kennedy and Hughes have been way below expectations and who knows if Pettitte will1) be back and 2) have a good year.
That said, go get Tex, Theo!
CC has pitched nearly 500 innings over the past 2 years and he carries way too much weight. He's inevitably going to break down at some point over the course of this contract. My guess is that 2008 will go down as the peak season of his career. That said, he should still be a 20-game winner and solid innings eater for the Yanks over the next 3-4 years, but I bet his ERA, WHIP, and K/9 will deteriorate.
Sounds like the Yanks are on the verge of overpaying for D-Lowe as well. Derek has not only had the benefit of pitching in the NL in recent years, but also in the pitcher friendly stadium in LA. He's getting up in age and I think he'd struggle quite a bit returning to the AL, especially pitching in Yankee Stadium.
The Sox need to sign Teixeira, bring back Tek for 2 years at a slight discount to last year, and hopefully pull off a deal for Salty w/o giving up Buchy, Bowden, or Masterson. The fourth OF s/b an easy fix. BTW - the Rangers request for Buchy PLUS Masterson is an absolute joke. Catching prospects simply aren't worth as much as starting pitching prospects at similar talent levels. There's no way I'd swap Buchy for Salty straight up. I'd have to chew long and hard at Masterson straight up. That would be a tough choice. I'd only do it if our scouts see Salty as a potential all-star.
This is an interesting signing from a Sox perspective. If Teixera is the competitor everyone says he is, this just eliminated all AL teams other than Boston and NY from the picture. Bottom line, he either goes to NY to join CC for an extended run or comes to Boston to prove who the marquee free agent is from this year's class.
yankees will still finish in 2nd behind tampa bay
This is a good signing short-term for the Yankees, but I have the feeling they could regret it if he doesn't opt out after 3 years. As for being the worst free agent pitching signing as one commenter suggests, I think Mike Hampton and Barry Zito deserve that designation.
I'm from Boston, but live in WI for school and work. CC is worth big money. He had troubles in the playoffs this year because he was pitching on 3 days rest. The sox are heavy on lefty's, since they do well in Fenway. A power lefty pitcher coming to town should not be taken lightly.
I guess matt clement was an excellent signing............
CC will have one helluva Christmas dinner spread @ his house!
Keep one thing in mind. At this very moment the Yankees have not improved themselves one bit. Why is that you might ask ?
It's because Sabathia is currently replacing a pitcher that won 20 games for the Yankees last season. So if Sabathia wins 20 games this coming season, the Yankees finish just as they did last season.....to wit, out of the playoffs. If he wins less than 20 games they are actually worse off.
So the Yankees need more. So far they have only swapped last season's Mussina productivity for this season's Sabathia productivity.
The Yankees are about to go right back to their philosophy of trying to sign every free agent all star available. A philosophy that has kept them from winning a WS for a decade.
I say the Yankees should keep spending, it makes it much more entertaining to watch them fail after overpaying for player after player.
The Yuckies just shot themselves in the heart - he'll win 13-14 games for a year or two, but he will not hold up in that prison-striped uniform.
lets not forget CC was TERRIBLE during the first half of this year with the indians. thats the american league mind you. everyone seems to forget that because the hot stove season is....*drum roll* OVERRATED
CC Sabathia will win 20 games per year for the next three years with the yankees, then his body will wilt under that load he is carrying. Think Bartolo Colon. And 20 games per year doesn't affect the total W/L of the Yanks. They have too many other problems with their creaking, aging parts. They'll be lucky to make third place this year (Toronto may pass them)
So that's $734,000.00 per game if he pitches every 5 games in a 162 game season. WOW!!! I hope the Yanks Tank!!!
Anyone want to guess what number CC will wear for the Yankees? I'm thinking 23 as in $23 million.......
gary, you may be right about swapping Mussina's 20 wins for Sabbathia's. But what were they supposed to do, not replace those 20 wins? And it seems like almost everyone has forgotten about Wang. Last I checked he was a pretty damn good pitcher before getting hurt last year. He averaged 19 wins for the 2 seasons before last. They still have holes to fill, but getting a stud lefty helps quite a bit.
People here are in denial. CC may be overpaid, but that means NOTHING to the Yanks. They are playing with Monopoly money. CC makes them enormously better. This is going to be a tough year in the east...
Dead Sox! you guys need to stop hating, remember you have not done any thing yet. Maybe we will get Manny! (that is the rumor) And he can come back home to NYC (Real team , Real City) And I know he would not mind Killing The Sox and this Idiot Nation, Lets go Yanks.
I think the 3 year opt out clause-if it's true-says a lot about how leary he is going to New York. He's beatable. Doesn't scare me. He replaces Mussina, that's how I see it. Yanks need to do a lot more with the pitching side of things to remain competitive.
Despite the concerns over his weight and lack of big-game ability, Sabathia significantly improves the Yankees without them having to give up anything other than money to acquire him. I'm hoping his playoff mediocrity holds true while he's a Yankee, but I'm hoping even more that he opts out after three years. He's going to be the best starting pitcher they've had since Ron Guidry. The Red Sox had better get Texeira now, and let's hope the Sox don't fall for that stiff A. J. Burnett. If you've got to sign a pitcher, sign Derek Lowe. No question he can win in Boston, even in a World Series. Unlike most others who think that just because Sabathia is overweight he will break down, I think he will remain relatively healthy and provide excellent value.
I really wanted Sabathia to sign on the west coast so the yanks would be forced to sign more injury prone free agents. This deal makes the yankees so much better. CC is large but that's a good thing for a pitcher. If he was as small as say, Pedro, they'd have more problems but I think his big frame can hold up.
And I think his playoff problems came after he threw 250 innings. If the yankees watch his pitch count, he'll be a force in October.
Also, the Yanks aren't going to stop here. They might get Teixiera too since they have money to burn and first base open.
I see no positive spin on this. I guess the Sox-Yanks rivalry is renewed.
Nobody has mentioned the fact that the past few years, especially with Cleveland, and is the case with Torontos Holliday, Sabbathia was not getting the run support he will get with the Yankees...To think he will only win 14-15 games is a farce.
Okay, I'll concede that CC will probably win 20 games and Wang another 20. What are the Stankees' plans for the other 122?
Oh, and is it me, or does "Mr Doright" sound like a Red Sox fan, circa 2003.
This is no big deal.
Has everyone forgotten the Yanks had a 20 game winner this year (Mussina) who retired. So they replaced him with a 17 game winner that can't win post season games.
Good luck to ya.
Remember Randy Johnson!
CC is definitely going to help the Yankees reach the Playoffs, but he's had trouble against the Sox. By next week, the Yanks will likely have a revamped rotation that includes Burnett, Sheets, Wang, Joba, and CC.
The Sox will sign Teixeira and have the best lineup in baseball...offense & defense. Combined with their starting pitchers...DiceK, Beckett, Lester, Masterson and Lowe, they'll have the best team in MLB in 2009.
Prediction: Red Sox over the Mets in 6 to recapture the World Series!
Tell me, honestly: Do these vertical pinstripes make me look fat?
"People here are in denial. CC may be overpaid, but that means NOTHING to the Yanks. They are playing with Monopoly money."
Put down the Sports section for a minute and look at the financial pages. Soon we will ALL be playing with Monopoly money.
We'll be thanking Milwaukee for rolling CC out as much as they did when that all catches up with him and his dead arm and losing record in NY!!!!
Will NY be able to move back into the old stadium when they go bankrupt?
Don't tear that thing down yet!
Have to agree with #84 Depressed…some of you are putting way too much emphasis on CC’s weight which is not always a negative factor for a pitcher, even for longevity…a couple of historical cases in point being Wilbur Wood and David Wells. Wood was huge and he pitched effectively for a lonnnnngg time, knuckler or not. Also, signing Sabathia does not set the Yanks back from signing Tex, don’t be silly -- monopoly money is right, someone else said.
And quit being so smug about the so-called superiority of the AL…yes, perhaps player for player there’s more talent in the AL but their best just beat our best in this recent WS in case you hadn’t noticed and it’s not the first time this decade either.
There is no doubt the CC is a great talent and I think the yankees have finally remembered Earl Weavers words, pitching and defense will beat any 3 run homer. But with that said, lets not forget the yankees lost 20 games from last year with the loss of Mussina. What happened to their new philosophy of growing the club through the farm system. They praise Cashman as if he is some genius. Boy if going to an auction like a pampered rich baby and outbidding the only other bid you have by 75 million makes you a great GM, sign me up.
CC failed to consider his success came from playing in the NL where there was less pressure and easier competition. Now he's in the fishbowl of NY...
Good luck with that.
Are the Sox fans ever going to stop talking about the Yankees? It amazes me how your blogs say so much more about the Yankees then they do about your own team. They must really bother you when you have so much to say about a pitcher's weight. Check out some NY blogs. They barely mention the Red Sox. You just don't bother us. Maybe when you win two Championships in a row we'll care.
Amazing to see so many Sawx fans excited for the Yankees newest member!
Is there any truth to the rumor that considering his weight and new contract with Yankee$ that Sabathia's initials now stand for Cash Cow? It seems to fit very well Cash Cow Sabathia the newest member of the overpaid Yankee$.
Blanche I love how you say the SOX FANS are posting these articles in the blogs, how about the Boston media that will post any story possible, trust me nobody wants to talk about the yankees. Why are you here in the first place.
This is probably a good thing for the Sox. The Yankees are going to spend crazy money every year. It might as well get tied up in a pitcher for 7 years. If CC's good for 2 or 3 years and then bad for 4 or 5 years, it will be good for the sox. It's not like the Yankees are going to fill their roster with underpaid bums. Seeing them give a huge, long contract to anyone is a good thing.
I did not say that the FANS are writing the articles. Obviously, the writers are presenting the articles. It's their job to write whatever is newsworthy in sports and obviously whatever happens to the Yankees is newsworthy. My comments referred to the fans who really get super-involved in all things New York. Actually, the reason that I read the Boston Globe is because half of my family lives in Ma. I find it hard to trust you when you say that nobody wants to talk about the Yankees. My comments were #97!!!!!!!!!!
Who Cares? Still walking the Yankees Shadow. Pats, Bruins and Celts are playing right now and they are all doing good and you want to talk about a fat pitcher making 161 million dollars during the recession. barf.
Maybe I am missing something here but hasn't Mussina and his 20 wins retired? So, CC comes in and wins 20. Where is the gain?
WOW! $602m for CC, ARat, and Jeter. They still might not get past Tampa Bay.
.....Just as you didn't!!!!
The Yankees will sign another big name pitcher and Texiera to play in their amazing new stadium. Just an aside: Bay has a lot of holes in his swing , and he's a 260-269 hitter in the AL. I've been into the Red Sox since 1955, so don't bother with any lame, late coming "nation" retorts.
It makes me sick how much entertainers and athletes get paid. They throw a ball fast and get paid $161,000,000? I'm a big sports fan and all, but the contracts and paychecks are kind of weird. Some people whose jobs are tougher (teachers, policeman, firemen, army/navy) don't get paid nearly as much. We have a backwards society....
Being a Sox fan living in Jeresy, I enjoyed the Yankee fans on talk radio this morning thinking CC is taken them to the promised land.
I can't wait for the Sox to light up this fat slob again like they did in the ALCS. Another bone head move by Cashman. The most over-rated GM ever. I hope they sign Burnett or Sheets too and watch them pull a Parvano or Kevin Brown.
Way to go Yankees. It's going to be sweet to watch you get booed in the new stadium with a bunch of washed up, over paid old guys.
Hahahhhahhahahahhha, lmao! How about that 2007 ALCS?!
This is awesome, I'm hoping they add Burnett as well. That would be truly awesome.
Just give me my Derek Lowe back and I'll be a happy man.
The Yankees had to sign CC....period. Somebody has to win 20 next year for the Yankees to not fall to 4th behind the Jays.
Seriously yankee fans have to be sick looking at the young (28 or less years) pitching the Rays (price, kazmir, shields) and Sox(masterson, beckett, dk) will roll out year after year going forward. Spending $161 million to just keep pace is a extraordinary indictment of the Yankees organization.
Anyone want to guess what number CC will wear for the Yankees? I'm thinking 23 as in $23 million.......
Posted by mbussolari December 10, 08 12:45 PM
HE WILL WEAR 52
DUMB ASS # 23 IS RETIRED
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