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Manny rejects second Dodgers offer

Posted by Steve Silva, Boston.com Staff February 3, 2009 07:25 AM

Manny Ramirez received a new one-year contract offer worth a reported $25 million from the Los Angeles Dodgers last night ... and he promptly rejected it.

According to Los Angeles Times columnist T.J. Simers, Manny's agent Scott Boras said he informed Ramirez of the offer -- what he classified as a suggestion by the Dodgers, the LA Times reports -- and the former Red Sox outfielder turned it down. Boras said that he informed the Dodgers of Ramirez's decision last night.

Dodgers spokesman Josh Rawitch confirmed the rejection of the offer and spread the word in an e-mail to the team's beat writers.

"Hey guys," Rawitch wrote, "just a quick confirmation that Scott Boras and Ned [Colletti, Dodgers GM] spoke tonight and that Scott rejected the Dodgers' offer."

Despite the rejection, Colletti said he was still interested in Ramirez.

"We still have interest in signing Manny. Right now we don't have a deadline. But that doesn't mean we're not going to have a deadline," Colletti told ESPN.com. "These situations can change in an instant, and anybody can change them in an instant."

A two-year, $45 million offer to Ramirez from the Dodgers in November expired without a response from Ramirez's camp. Colletti said he presented Boras with the club's second offer Sunday night, the Times reported. Colletti didn't confirm details of the offer.

The San Francisco Giants are the only team besides the Dodgers with known interest in Ramirez, but Giants officials have said that they would sign Ramirez only if the price was right.

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152 comments so far...
  1. Manny are you kiddin me? You are getting harrdly any head wind this off season and you turn down 25 millions dollars? May it be only a one year offer I would take that money and run with the hopes that next year the state of baseball would be in a better place to recieve a longer offer.

    Posted by Kyle February 3, 09 08:04 AM
  1. Another Boras Blunder this year (though it's hard to feel sorry for Manny in the situation). While I still love watching that kid smack a baseball, I can't help but find a nugget of glee in the whole situation. You reap what you sow.

    Posted by Ryan Tomorrow February 3, 09 08:12 AM
  1. Manny isn't worth $25 million a year. The Dodgers should just walk away now. That $25 milion will buy a lot of young players with good upside potential.

    Posted by Steve H February 3, 09 08:16 AM
  1. Hmm, I wonder if Boras is still so sure Manny will be signed by free agency? I still say Manny will either be playing for the Dodgers or the Yanks...I don't any other place where he and his salary fits in. Right now, if I was a betting woman...I'd put my money on the Yanks.

    Posted by Shelley February 3, 09 08:19 AM
  1. Manny will be a Met--no doubt about it---and that is what he is waiting for--he is a perfect fit for this team in his hometown and a new park where he will pull in the fans and pay for his salary with the money they will make on tickets, hot dogs and Manny being Manny shirts !

    Posted by Dan B February 3, 09 08:29 AM
  1. Is everyone in Boston crazy? He's still a top 5 hitter in baseball. And if you're speaking all-time, maybe even top 20. The Angels are stupid not to get him to DH. The Orioles and Nationals are stupid not to use him to fill the stands. And don't even start me on the dodgers and giants, either of whom could well take a weak division by giving him the three year deal he deserves.

    Posted by stein February 3, 09 08:30 AM
  1. $25,000,000 for one year? Ah, let's make it 8 months.

    If you were to earn $50,000 a year it would take you 500, that's right - 500 years to earn $25,000,000.

    Come on Manny - you're getting older - take the money and run!

    That being said I have to get back to my 5th grade class - molding the young minds of America on my meager salary.

    Posted by Jimmy February 3, 09 08:30 AM
  1. Manny wants to get out of Boston and behaves like a child..... okay. Manny rakes in the playoffs for the Dodgers...... whatever. Manny wants a ridiculous contract with LA or San Fran.......... fine. Manny hand delivered us two championships...... regardless of the nature of his departure we will be forever indebted.

    HOWEVER, if/when ManRam goes to the Yanks all bets are off, he should be roundly booed when he returns. No doubt he'll be in pinstripes, judas! Or should I say Boras!!

    Posted by Ben February 3, 09 08:31 AM
  1. I hope their next offer is less.

    Posted by fuzzy1 February 3, 09 08:34 AM
  1. See if they don't come back to this. This would save face for Boras and Manny. The P.R. play would be that with the Red Sox options we effectively had a 1 year, $20MM year with Boston, which we parlayed into a 1 year, $25MM deal.

    Posted by Sam D February 3, 09 08:36 AM
  1. Come on everyone! The man has to feed his family and those Dodgers ain't showing him any R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!!

    Posted by Captain Carl February 3, 09 08:36 AM
  1. Ha, ha, ha! Too bad his skills aren't as massive as his ego.

    Posted by sp February 3, 09 08:39 AM
  1. I hope LA walks away from Manny - How is it that people forget how Manny stood there and let three pitches pass him by just because he didn't feel like playing.

    If you sign Manny for less than he thinks he's worth you are asking for trouble. Picture a little pouting baby...that's what you would get.

    Posted by Been There February 3, 09 08:40 AM
  1. I don't think the Yankees can sign Manny because I think there's a restriction on the number of type A free agents they can sign. They have already reached their limit.

    Posted by mh February 3, 09 08:41 AM
  1. I believe the Yankees will land Manny for 2 years and $40 million. He'll win another championship; this time with his home team, the Yankees

    Posted by Dan February 3, 09 08:42 AM
  1. Manny made $123,456.79 for every game he played for the Sox last year even when he was doggin' it. Can we lose this guy from our sports pages?

    Posted by Peter Tavalin February 3, 09 08:43 AM
  1. I don't know why the Dodgers are bidding against themselves. They should simply reinstate their original offer (2-years, $22.5 million/per year) but for every day Manny delays in accepting it, it goes down by 5%.

    Posted by egomaniac February 3, 09 08:45 AM
  1. Manny walking away from $25 million proves he is both greedy and arrogant. There is no question he is a truly gifted hitter, but his fielding skills are, at best, just "average" - not to mention the fact that he is a selfish and disruptive force in the clubhouse. For a one dimensional player with not sense of "team" to walk away from that amount of money proves that he is totally out of touch with reality.

    Posted by Jack Trahan February 3, 09 08:46 AM
  1. The Yanks will swoop in and grab him at like $20 mil/year for 4 years. Manny wants long term more than high yearly bucks me thinks. He will go down in salary a little if it means he gets a multi-year contract. Watch...

    Posted by GDMiller February 3, 09 08:47 AM
  1. Manny being an idiot ...JUST SO YOU KNOW, The Yankees CANT sign Manny. There is actually a RULE against it. They have signed too many Class A & B Free Agents this off season so they are not able to sign him. Again, Manny is an idiot. but we all knew that, we just called it "Manny being Manny"...Way to lead your client, Boras....

    Posted by Erik February 3, 09 08:48 AM
  1. Enough of these ridiculous salaries already. These people are paid insane amounts of money to play a game and yet some of them are such babies about the millions offered to them as if it's an insult. Manny may be a great hitter, but his piss poor attitude has always left a sour taste in my mouth and I wasn't sad to see him go. I don't wish ill on anyone but at this point I hope he finds himself realizing he isn't worth all that to any team and is suddenly watching his sport on tv like the rest of us. Sports would be so much more enjoyable without all the money drama - especially in light of the more serious aspects of the current economic downturn.

    Posted by J Mac February 3, 09 08:51 AM
  1. Manny will take the $25M but doesn't want to go to Spring training before mid-March. He is also asking for a separate office in the clubhouse like the Jets gave Brett Favre.

    Posted by Rhody February 3, 09 08:52 AM
  1. Manny is a SCUM BAG and gets what he deserves, ZERO.

    Posted by Josh February 3, 09 08:54 AM
  1. He's going to New York. I feel it.

    Posted by SJB February 3, 09 08:55 AM
  1. Manny, you big DOPE! You can thank yourself, and your greedy agent for screwing you! Just like he did with Vtek. He miss read the market, and now you're paying the price. As they say pay back is a b****!! LOL

    Posted by closaa February 3, 09 08:56 AM
  1. I love it. Blunder after blunder fromt he Boras camp. Hard to tell if this was actually a Boras blunder or just a pipe dreaming Manny being Manny. With little to no interest and about 7 days to pitchers and catchers where does he think he is going to land? Is he that stubborn? Does he still think the Yankees are going to sweep in with the monster deal he telling all his friends about back in November and December? Maybe he will find a sweet AAA contract. Or maybe he will just fade off into the sunset with the millions he has made over the last few years, either way, not going to bother me.

    Posted by JDCinNC February 3, 09 08:57 AM
  1. Jack Trahan - you summed up the situation perfectly. Hit the nail on the head.

    Posted by MannyExtortedBoston February 3, 09 08:58 AM
  1. bring him back theo! hahahahaha

    Posted by tim February 3, 09 08:59 AM
  1. BAAhhahha HAhAhhahhaha

    he'll be an NY Skankee soon

    Posted by BillyHags February 3, 09 09:00 AM
  1. I know it's not going to happen, but I wish just one huge star would be low-balled to the point of insult (Bonds doesn't count) just to put the sense of mortality back into these baseball superstars.

    And now, like Jimmy, I go back to my class to mold the minds of kids preparing to make five figures - if they can get a job in this economy.

    Posted by calvin February 3, 09 09:00 AM
  1. Does anybody really care when we have thousands of familys in peril due to job loss and foreclosure what these athletes are "settling for".Shame on the media as well as the owners for continuing to perpetuate the warped world that professional athletics has become.

    By the way the Bean Pot was great last night !!!!!

    Posted by Donny February 3, 09 09:01 AM
  1. The yankees totally can sign him... that rule about type a and b free agents has been waived this year b/c of the large influx of free agents. Check the yankee website for a story about it just the other day.

    Posted by DJP February 3, 09 09:02 AM
  1. People losing their houses and baseball players thinking they are worth more then $25mil in one year.....go figure.

    Posted by MMelanson February 3, 09 09:05 AM
  1. Ain't baseball great!

    Posted by Rick February 3, 09 09:06 AM
  1. If Theo wasn't such a dummy, he would sign Manny for 3 years

    Posted by BigD February 3, 09 09:06 AM
  1. I was shocked that the offer was for as much as 25 Million. Boras knows that he can max out the total dollars via a multi-year deal. Clubs aren't Stupid--They know Manny needs some sort of motivation to keep on the straight and narrow. So, Boras plays the game. He's Left Coast or Mets. Forget the Yankees. His life would literally be in danger from some crazed Red Sox fan if he does that. Can you imagine him back in Left field at Fenway in Pinstripes? Only takes one wacko.

    My guess is Manny doesn't even sniff 35 Mill for two years.
    Boras is very arrogant, but even the Dodger's 25Mill offer surprised me, so Boras may yet turn out to be right.

    Posted by LeftOut February 3, 09 09:07 AM
  1. Hey Manny, I'll give ya 10 bucks to shovel my driveway!!!

    Posted by lovegolf01 February 3, 09 09:08 AM
  1. With the state of the economy, it is an embarrasiing the amount of money professional athletes earn (and turn down).

    Posted by disgusted February 3, 09 09:08 AM
  1. I also think he will go to the Yanks. The posters who say that they have reached their limit of free agents are correct, but that restriction is lifted if he is still unsigned after the June draft. Think about it. It makes no sense for Manny to reject this offer essentially immediately after all of the inactivity. He must know that there is something better somewhere and the only reason he wouldn't have already signed with said sure thing is that they can't until after the draft. I see 3-4 years with the Yanks at $23 per. Just enough so he can say he beat the Sox options and not quite enough to make the long term Yankee Tex feel disrespected.

    Posted by WiscSoxFan February 3, 09 09:09 AM
  1. If he can afford to turn his nose up at $25 million these days- he should just retire.
    He certainly isn't making anymore fans. Fans=money. Boras certainly didn't do him any favors and after Boras spent all that time getting Tex his big payday, Manny had to have know he wasn't #1 on Boras' list anymore. That has got to piss him off. Which is fine with me. Boras being Boras. I love watching this whole thing. As much as I love to watch Manny play when he is being professional and a grown -up, I do think a year off my humble him out.

    Posted by Vivalaselvis February 3, 09 09:10 AM
  1. I do not want to see Manny benefit in any way for what he did to the Red Sox and his teammates last year.

    With guys like Abreu and Dunn still out there, the Dodgers and Giants should snatch them up for less than Manny. This would leave Manny with very few choices. The only way that the Yankees get involved is if they can trade Nady and/or Swisher. They have too many OF/DHs to add Manny.

    Maybe he does wind up with his pal Albert Pujols in St. Louis for a discount.

    Posted by EdA February 3, 09 09:14 AM
  1. Manny = Babe Ruth!

    Bring back Manny if you want any more Championships.......over the next 86 years!

    Posted by MT February 3, 09 09:16 AM
  1. Understand that Manny does not actually care about the money. For him it is more spiritual. He used to cause chaos for the Red Sox accountants because he wouldn't cash his paychecks. He has the mentality of a four year old, and it is simply about getting his way. Stupid yes, greedy not a chance.

    Posted by dan February 3, 09 09:18 AM
  1. MANNY RYHMES WITH FANNY WHICH IS THE LONG VERSION OF ASS!!!!!
    These are the types of players pro sports needs to lose!!!
    Manny is proof that no one wants to over pay for a looooser!!!!

    Posted by FLORIDA/MAINE February 3, 09 09:19 AM
  1. I believe that the Yankees have not reached the limit, if there even is one for signing type A or B free agents. The Yankees are just sitting and waiting and they will swoop in and get him in a multi year deal but for less annual dollars. He will take less to play in NY as long as he gets the multi-year deal

    Posted by Airjer February 3, 09 09:19 AM
  1. WHY are we still talking about this man?

    Let him peddle is crybaby, no respect, pay me what I'm worth nonsense in another city. Who cares. What he's worth? But for stunning good luck in someone spotting and nurturing his talent, his "worth" would be $8 at Burger King mopping the floors.

    Time for all pro sports to take a look at reality -- in this economy -- a trip to the ballpark for the family to the tune of $250 (and easily more) is one of the first things on the chopping block of ways we can save money.

    Posted by Inf February 3, 09 09:20 AM
  1. Hey 'lovegolf' if you gave manny 10 bux to shovel your driveway, he would do a lousy job, quit halfway through, break the shovel and sue you for injuring himself while walking away.
    Were there any true justice in the sports universe, manny would get incinerated by a stray meteorite hitting him in the curls!

    Posted by Phinneus February 3, 09 09:24 AM
  1. Big D - - Come on now!!! You can't be serious. You think that Theo is a dummy, yet he brought in the right mix of players who've brought us 2 World Series championships. Theo gets a lot of credit in my book - and I think that most of the people on this board would be shocked in Theo brought Manny back at all - let alone for 3 years at any price.

    Posted by Jim February 3, 09 09:24 AM
  1. Manny turned down a 1-year/$25M contract? He still wants a long term contract?? Then the Dodgers should offer him what he wants - a multi-year contract, in the form of a 2-yr/$25M contract ($12.5M per season). Will that make him happy??

    Posted by Brian February 3, 09 09:24 AM
  1. Amazing with this bad economy and people losing their jobs that there are still some fools who think they need to cry for Manny. Only a totally selfish tool would turn down $25MM for playing ONE year of baseball. This is karma: this is payback: this is "you shall reap what you sow" because all of his selfishness and that shameful stunt he pulled on the Red Sox last year has come home to roost. The Dodgers rented him for the stretch run. They will only take him on their terms, not Boras' or Manny's. This couldn't happen to a better couple of bastards. MLB execs know a fraud when they see one, regardless of his awesome hitting acumen. It just shows how much his downside overshadows his talent.

    As for the Sox fans who still cry over his departure, why don't you go take your pink hats and your blackberrys and spend your time in some Newberry Street cafe with all the rest of the uninformed poseurs who are all too plentiful at Fenway these days.

    Posted by Petey G., a.k.a. Sofachi February 3, 09 09:28 AM
  1. Hey Manny, maybe you should talk to Veritek, he took Boras' advice and look what he ended up with

    Posted by shaboom February 3, 09 09:29 AM
  1. If Manny's looking for sympathy he won't find it here. I'll happily take that 25 mil, ManRam, since you don't want it.

    Posted by Jay February 3, 09 09:29 AM
  1. Manny will end up a Blue Jay...he'll take the Canadian dollar at 25 cents more on the US dollar so his $25 million request will end up $31 million per Canadian dollars.

    Posted by soxoholic February 3, 09 09:29 AM
  1. This is too funny, folks. Now the guy who only plays when he feels like it is trying to find a team who thinks that's a fine idea. Give me a break! maybe this is a joint venture on the part of MLB to let him know that is not an acceptable work ethic, regardless of which team is the victim.

    Posted by Maine1975 February 3, 09 09:32 AM
  1. This is too funny, folks. Now the guy who only plays when he feels like it is trying to find a team who thinks that's a fine idea. Give me a break! maybe this is a joint venture on the part of MLB to let him know that is not an acceptable work ethic, regardless of which team is the victim.

    Posted by Maine1975 February 3, 09 09:32 AM
  1. With any luck. Manny will go unsigned this year.

    Posted by Cade February 3, 09 09:32 AM
  1. Don't any of you understand?? Manny DOESN"T CARE about anything.. he's already said he'll retire if he doesn't get a "good" offer.. He's already filthy stinkin rich, especially since he probably doesn't give any of his money to charity (unlike how he said he would then backed out on school kids..) Whats another 25 mil...

    Posted by n February 3, 09 09:36 AM
  1. Event though he is the biggest idiot after A-Rod, he is still the best hitter after A-Rod.

    Mets should offer him $100 mill over 5 years (with the last 2 being option years).

    Posted by kn4eva February 3, 09 09:41 AM
  1. GO BACK TO WHERE EVER THE HELL YOU COME FROM I THINK LETTING YOU INTO MY COUNTRY WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE. IAM SICK OF YOUR COCKEY NESS TO THE AMERICAN PUPLIC. GO HOME BOY YOU ARE A BAD EXAMBLE OF AN AMERICAN .

    Posted by OLIVE ROSE February 3, 09 09:41 AM
  1. red sox need to resign manny.

    Posted by anon February 3, 09 09:44 AM
  1. Why don't those teachers just teach their class instead of molding the children?

    Posted by nopieme February 3, 09 09:45 AM
  1. I don't feel sorry for Manny at all. Thanks for 2004 and 2007, but you are a greedy SOB. And, your talk is cheap:
    "I want to retire with the Red Sox"

    "I want to retire with the Dodgers"

    Manny, do you know what the word "retire" means or are you full of shit?

    Posted by David S. Moore February 3, 09 09:49 AM
  1. Re: Class A free agent quota - a unilateral exception was granted this offseason, increasing the number of Class A/B free agents allowed per team. Any team can now sign up to 8 Class A or B free agents (total combined). Therefore, the Yankees could still sign Manny .

    Posted by Jeff in Medford February 3, 09 09:55 AM
  1. Schoolteacher Jimmy---While I would agree that Manny is probably not worth $25 million to most teams, what you earn teaching 5th graders is not relevant to the discussion. It is about supply and demand. There are plenty of 5th grade teachers and very few superstar hitters. Professionals are paid for excellence. Teachers are among the few professionals who reject payment for excellence. If we did away with tenure and teacher unions, the best teachers would earn a lot more, the weaker ones less, and the worst would be fired. I don't th ink I would want you teaching my 5th grader.

    O

    Posted by Amused February 3, 09 09:57 AM
  1. Is there something wrong with a society that makes an offer in view of the state of the economy? Wake up people, homes and jobs are being lost!

    It disgusts me that even such an offer is made, never mind rejected!

    Posted by AnamCara7 February 3, 09 10:00 AM
  1. One word describes all this - KARMA. I'm sure the economy is playing a part here, but 'Manny being a cancer' seems to be on the minds of many GMs. The guy would be a major boost to any team's offense, but is it worth the aggravation, never mind the negative impact he would have on the younger players? Maybe Manny pushed things a little too far with his antics here in Boston.
    In the end, he'll sign somewhere. And after the honeymoon with that team is over he'll start whining about something else.
    Maybe he'll demand to have Roger carry his bags...

    Posted by marathonman262 February 3, 09 10:02 AM
  1. SURE THERE IS A RULE OF HOW MANY FREE AGENT TYPE A & B YOU CAN SING BUT THERE ALSO ANOTHER THING WE THAT RULE.
    DID YOU KNOW THAT WITH SO MANY TYPE A & B FREE AGENTS ON THE MARKET THIS YEAR THE ONLY THE YANKEE HAS TO DO IS ASK THE PLAYER ASSOCIACION IF THEY CAN SING ANOTHER TYPE A OR B PLAYER AND GUEST WHAT THE PLAYER ASSOCIACION WON'T SAY NO TO THAT REQUEST..
    BECAUSE ALMOST 35% AVALABLE FREE AGENTS ARE TYPE A OR B.
    REMEMBER HWOEVER MADE THE RULE ALSO MADE THE WAY AROUND THEN

    Posted by ROBERT February 3, 09 10:02 AM
  1. Has anyone noticed that there is no market for corner outfielders? OBP guys like Bobby Abreu who is a plus defensive player with power and speed has not signed - guys like him with little downside (other than salary) are going to take a huge pay cut - why not Manny (with huge downside to go with the obviouse upside). He will eat his pride/salary and play for a year with the Yankmees just so he can stick it to the Sox or sign for three years at or below $20m per with the Mets or the Giants. Damage has been done with LA. He is too proud to go there now. Fool!.

    Posted by vermontskibum February 3, 09 10:04 AM
  1. Curse of the Manny????

    Posted by GaryS February 3, 09 10:04 AM
  1. Isn't this just a laugh and a half that there is no market for this loser. Economic conditions aside, many of the owners realize that it just isn't worth having this loafing scumbag on your team at any price. It will be very interesting to see Boras spin this situation, especially with spring training only two weeks away. My guess is that Manny and Boras will eventually have to settle for something way less than they thought, probably for one year. A pity.

    Posted by tnrglhcm February 3, 09 10:10 AM
  1. a 1 year deal would make manny have to run out ground balls and play the game the way it is supposed to be played.(in order to get another contract next year)......like he did for 3 months in LA........all the GM's know how he operates now........give him a long term deal and you get the "I'm not comfortable here" Manny......a pouty, whiney, soft , my- hammy- hurts ballplayer that drives the manager nuts..........the only guy that will do the deal and give him a 3 yr deal is the fat load hank of the yankmees.........he's into "collecting" ballplayers..........look for jeter to head to LA ......

    Posted by dd February 3, 09 10:11 AM
  1. Boras won't be satisfied until his client is hired by the hour.

    Posted by Mister Snitch February 3, 09 10:11 AM
  1. If he can afford to turn his nose up at $25 million these days- he should just retire.
    He certainly isn't making anymore fans. Fans=money. Boras certainly didn't do him any favors and after Boras spent all that time getting Tex his big payday, Manny had to have know he wasn't #1 on Boras' list anymore. That has got to piss him off. Which is fine with me. Boras being Boras. I love watching this whole thing. As much as I love to watch Manny play when he is being professional and a grown -up, I do think a year off my humble him out.

    Posted by Vivalaselvis February 3, 09 10:18 AM
  1. mancrap is getting exactly what he deserves...The dude cares about himself only that was evident last year when he quit on his teammates ...He and BORASS are peas from the same pod they only care about the 3 square feet surrounding thier own asses

    Posted by Duncnuts February 3, 09 10:19 AM
  1. Manny will become a Canadian citizen, learn French, eat croissants, play for the Blue Jays and cash in on their Canadian currency - just like Roger Clemens.

    Posted by soxoholic February 3, 09 10:20 AM
  1. there's only one word to describe manny -- M-O-R-O-N. I find it difficult to feel sorry for a guy who turned down $25million while I am trying to scrape up enough money to heat my house and stock my pantry.

    I love seeing the fact that Manny shot himself in the foot with his attitude last year. What team in their right mind would pay big bucks for a guy who can turn himself off at will whenever he feels he has been "disrespected", or come up lame with fake injuries, or stand at the plate without taking the bat off your shoulder while Mo Rivera throws three straight strikes down the middle of the plate.

    It couldn't happen to a nicer guy -- or his agent.

    Posted by nancestef February 3, 09 10:21 AM
  1. So far so good on this big baby of a fool. He had 40 mil he could have had from the Sox but that wasn't good enough. He switched agents for a reason but so far it turns out to be a bad one. It was Boras that told this fool to go to the plate in NY with the bases loated, 2 outs & just rest the bat on his shoulder. He made no attempt to even foul a pitch. His team mates should have given him a blanket party the minute he walked in the locker room. This way he walks with a REAL bad leg and he will remember which one it is. He screwed his team mates & his team and every GM out there knows it. For what he did to the Sox the commissioner should have suspended him for a year. Maybe he will learn something in humility now.

    Posted by Ed Washburn February 3, 09 10:23 AM
  1. I'd like to know what the air is compromised of in Manny Land. You must get an immediate contact high with just a few whiffs.

    Is this guy kidding? I think Boras has spent too much time in Manny Land, too. Their sense of reality is dramatically warped.

    Posted by Matt Talvi February 3, 09 10:28 AM
  1. That's my boy....25$ million...hummmm, I pass for now....That's why he is the man, he knows his value.
    Everybody knows, comes beginning of the season, he will be playing, making the money that he deserves.
    Manny - you are a bad man!!!!

    Posted by Danno! February 3, 09 10:29 AM
  1. the Sox should've picked up Manny's options in 2007 thus kepping him in Boston, Boras out of the preceedings, and eliminating the need to trade him last season.

    Posted by spencer99 February 3, 09 10:30 AM
  1. "GO BACK TO WHERE EVER THE HELL YOU COME FROM I THINK LETTING YOU INTO MY COUNTRY WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE. IAM SICK OF YOUR COCKEY NESS TO THE AMERICAN PUPLIC. GO HOME BOY YOU ARE A BAD EXAMBLE OF AN AMERICAN ."

    At least he can use the English language better than you....
    I pray he doesn't end up on the Yanks, stay in the NL!

    Posted by Burquesoxfan(atic) February 3, 09 10:31 AM
  1. There is something seriously wrong with this guy! Were he not able to hit a baseball he'd probably be on the street pushing a shopping cart full of cans and talking to himself.

    Posted by JimG February 3, 09 10:36 AM
  1. Lets ask Wally the Green Monster...

    Posted by soxoholic February 3, 09 10:36 AM
  1. Manny is an idiot for turning that kind of cash down. but i think he has a back up plan, like prior posts said he wont be eligable for a cpl more months, so for now i think he is just waiting for" his dream team" to make an offer for him to accept. i guarentee the next offer he takes will be less than the Dodgers offerd him and he will accept, and yes he is a good hitter but is average in the field, hit homeruns but imo NOT worth 25 mil, to what hit a ball and miss outfield balls,

    Posted by Nick Pinheiro February 3, 09 10:42 AM
  1. The ultimate undoing of Manny Ramirez will occur when opposing pitchers are instructed not to pitch to him. He can be a Yankee, a Met, a Dodger or a Giant and it won't matter. When this happened to Barry Bonds, nobody but Giants fans cared, and when it happens to Manny, nobody at all is going to care.

    Manny, you're a great hitter, but you take people for granted. You behave like a selfish child and nobody wants to play with a selfish child.

    Posted by Fenwaytogo February 3, 09 10:55 AM
  1. The economy is bad... blah blah... people make $50k a year... blah blah... I teach fifth graders... whine blah blah whine. This stuff has absolutely nothing to do with what pro athletes make. Find me a fifth grade teacher who can make the Hall of Fame in an industry that generates billions of dollars annually, and I will say then he also deserves $20M plus. That working class crybaby stuff is ignorant and boring. PS, Manny winds up with the Yanks.

    Posted by SG February 3, 09 10:56 AM
  1. Hey Manny, beggars can't be choosers!

    Posted by MFC February 3, 09 10:58 AM
  1. Amused... First off, Manny is also in a UNION!! Unions push for more monies and benefits at every chance they get. Yes, some teachers do not deserve to teach!!! But, over all, most teachers do NOT receive the proper amount of financial restitution. Obviously, the economy has effected ALL areas of society. No one likes to see a person turn down monies of that nature. I have been unemployed since the end of November 2008!! Have struggled to make ends meet!! But putting down anyone is not proper! All I can say is some people do not know when they have it good in today's poor economy. Go Red Sox!!!!

    Posted by JF Kayajan February 3, 09 11:00 AM
  1. BRING MANNY BACK IMMEDIATELY

    2 YEARS WITH AN OPTION FOR A THIRD

    DO IT IMMEDIATELY

    Posted by allie February 3, 09 11:02 AM
  1. Hey Stein: Manny DESERVES sh!t. He had a contract with the Red Sox that he did not complete. Remember that??? He QUIT on the team. So, you are saying that when you quit, you deserve to get paid more??

    Posted by Susan February 3, 09 11:03 AM
  1. I hope Manny fires Satan Boras and comes back to the Red Sox

    Posted by Shariq February 3, 09 11:03 AM
  1. ever heard the expression, million dollar body ten cent head?

    Posted by Scott Lucas February 3, 09 11:05 AM
  1. Manny's character has been exposed. His upside is he can knock in runs when he is happy. The downside he is a poor fielder that not give his best effort if he is not happy. He has put himself in a no win situation. He can't get a big money long term deal because owners can't pay his asking price. So all a team is going to get is a poor fielder that will not give his best effort. So the dodgers give Manny an offer he can refuse so they can walk away with their money and no Manny. You can't blame a team for making their best offer for a player that won't give his best effort for that price.

    Posted by hackensack1 February 3, 09 11:06 AM
  1. I am noticing Bug Selig gets $17m a year. The big question may start being, "Can Manny get Selig money?".

    Posted by Mark February 3, 09 11:14 AM
  1. When u break down the salary structure for one player, you cause disenchhantment and resentment . too steep a price to ignore all the negative ramifications

    Posted by john February 3, 09 11:15 AM
  1. I still don't know why to this day,Jack McCormick didn't press charges against the biggest me-me-me person on this planet. Manny, if he didn't have baseball,would either be in jail or sweeping floors. For someone to think he can assault another person over not getting him enough tickets should've at least been suspended, docked pay, or at least put in jail. Now he thinks $25mil/year is not enough?? Manny, pick up a paper, look at all the layoffs and realize, not only how fortunate you are, but with every great deal you refuse, how many more boos you'll be generating from people fortunate enough to still come see you 'play'.

    Posted by mannymore$'s4me February 3, 09 11:15 AM
  1. No one in their right mind should do more than a one year deal with Planet Manny after the crap he pulled here. I'm sure he can still hit and would add value to whoever he signed with but he has to be in a postion to earn the dough. You sign him to anything more than a one plus an option and he'll turn into a dog just like he did here.

    Posted by GSS February 3, 09 11:21 AM
  1. baseball is boring

    Posted by jake February 3, 09 11:24 AM
  1. Hopefully, this is the end of Boras and his games. Seems like the teams are not afraid of his games. MLB should step in and have him removed. How many player did he represent over this off season that look like dirt bag ? Tex, Tek, Manny, and Lowe enough it enough Bor-ass

    Posted by jason February 3, 09 11:29 AM
  1. Manny will be playing for he Yankees!

    Posted by JDS4 February 3, 09 11:33 AM
  1. So how smart do John Henry, Theo Epstein, and Larry Lucchino appear today? It could be that Manny Being Manny's career is over. Once again, Scott Boras misread the market. He apparently didn't know, or care, that MLB executives all over knew about the job action Boras whispered into his client's ear last July, when he told the slugger to ask onto the DL because both knees were killing him. How about Tito sending the child off to the hospital and returning with MRI's with the following: nothing wrong here. Boras slow-dripped John Henry and the Sox in the Mark Teixeira negotiations and now the chickens are flapping homeward to the roost! Manny has nowhere else to go and not much interest. I hope the Yanks get stupid by offering Manny Being Manny something like 4/150. It's their money, after all, in this wretched economy--and it's also Derek Jeter's clubhouse. Wow! A-Rod, Tex, and Manny Being Manny in the new Yankee Stadium clubhouse and Joe "no clue" Girardi filling out the line-up card with Ramirez in left. I can't wait!

    Posted by Witch-king February 3, 09 11:39 AM
  1. How do these teams expect Manny to live on only 25 mil? He has girlfriends in every baseball city to support.

    Posted by Avoid Boras February 3, 09 12:08 PM
  1. Let's hope this immoral slacker sees his strategy fail--just as he failed to live up to his contract obligations with the Red Sox--and he watches the season on TV from his home. Payback is a b*i*t*c*h*

    Posted by Ron February 3, 09 12:16 PM
  1. How to you spell moron? M-A-N-N-Y. or any team that signs him.

    Posted by Rick February 3, 09 12:17 PM
  1. Boycott baseball

    Posted by dgb February 3, 09 12:30 PM
  1. I say give Manny $30 million a year for 5 years as follows: $10 million base salary and multiple incentives up to $20 million. Then he could put up or shut up. Let's see how hard he'll work for 5 years...for the Dodgers, please.

    Posted by ljm February 3, 09 12:33 PM
  1. manny sucks always has always will ,good hitter ashole of a person lets stop talking about this shit bag lets move on, lets all hope he gets what he deserves and that should be $ 0.00 .he scewed boston and now he' s trying to do it to another team. Smarten up mlb send his ass back to the hills where he belongs

    Posted by mass51 February 3, 09 12:34 PM
  1. I hope Manny will finally realize his nonsense in July has scared people away from a person as selfish as he is , perhaps he should consider retiring and then maybe he will find $25 million is a significant amount to most of us who didn't make that amount in our working career

    Posted by richard pomerleau February 3, 09 12:41 PM
  1. Bring back Man Ram, seriously. We have the Captain coming back to hit .090 so lets bring back Manny. I say bring back Dave Roberts and Kevin Millar too. Maybe then those idiots could win another one. LETS GO NATION, UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by red sox nation February 3, 09 12:49 PM
  1. Please let this be the start of our athletes being paid properly. I hope nobody picks up Manny, and every athlete's salary is capped at a million a year, with incentives, team incentives, to make more money. Who cares what he is batting if we don't win. It'll never happen though. Greedy rich people make me sick.

    Posted by Chris February 3, 09 12:52 PM
  1. I don't blame Theo and Sox for letting Manny go. In fact they gave him enough chances to play but with Manny's ego and being stubborn, Manny couldn't change himself. You can't blame Manny for being greedy and stubborn. Look, who is his agent! There is no one on the earth who is more greedy, stubborn and having personal ego than SCOTT BORAS. How much more money does he need? When signing his players, he checks for his own benefits more than his players. My suggestion to Manny and Varitek. If you want more money, change your agent.


    As long as Manny, Varitek

    Posted by Sandip B February 3, 09 01:00 PM
  1. I thought Varitek screwed up, but this is ridiculous

    Posted by Bill February 3, 09 01:04 PM
  1. If there was a way to do it without tarnishing your integrity, I would love for a team to make Manny a completely inflated offer, say 5 years - $130 Million, just to watch him jog (actually hustle) right to the table and say "now these are the terms that Manny being Manny has been talking about, " with a big smile.

    And just when he's about to sign, the team changes their mind, 2 years - $46 million, take it or leave it. HA, HA, HA.

    I know it would permanently disgrace a teams 'word' but it would be soooo
    worth it just to bait the hook for Manny; to watch him and Boras overreact because of their greed instead of actual respect for the game.

    After the protracted temper tantrum that Manny put on public display last season, clearly in order to squirm out of his contract for a bigger one, I think the only fair karma would be for him NOT to get signed this year. Let him sit out a year. Let him fall off the radar screen of relevancy.

    Maybe the economy will rebound next year, right Manny? Then you'll be going on 38. Maybe your maturity level might actually make it to that of a 20-year old instead of 15.

    Posted by greg February 3, 09 01:05 PM
  1. I thought Varitek screwed up, but this is ridiculous

    Posted by Bill February 3, 09 01:05 PM
  1. The Sox should offer him a minor league deal. Manny in Pawtucket - sweet! Help the little guys sell some tickets. Dress him up in a clown suite, too, because that is what he is. Right now he is getting what he gave to all of his loyal Sox fans at the end: NOTHING.

    P.S. I love the idea of Jeter in LA.

    Posted by ABSoxFan4Life February 3, 09 01:06 PM
  1. Ellsbury is a Boras client so may be on trading list when the time comes to negotiate with Boras.

    Posted by mascmen7 February 3, 09 01:06 PM
  1. Are you kidding me?? Has Manny looked outside his personal bubble at all lately?? Has he not seen people dropping like flies from the work force? I know it's only 25 million, but it sounds like most of that is for the over inflated egos of both he and his parasitic agent. Manny, why don't you try, just for a couple of weeks, working a blue collar job, and then see how 25 mil sounds to you.

    Posted by rjgillespie@sbcglobal.net February 3, 09 01:17 PM
  1. smart move by the dodgers...why invest 2 years on a player who you will have to worry about being upset at being disrespected(@25mill)?..boras and manny landed themselves in this position and barring a late offer(mets are out owners will not approve a manny deal) that 40 mill in options they insisted on the dodgers negating will loom over them like the black cloud manny left over 4 yawkey way. somewhere ted williams smiles and knows sometimes baseball justice is served.

    Posted by John Gamble February 3, 09 01:37 PM
  1. Let's see, 2008 salary = $20.000,000..... 2008 at bats = 552.... that's $36,232 (rounded up 12 cents) per at bat. So in any one game where Manny has 2 at bats he earns more than the average American FAMILY makes in a YEAR!

    Now Manny and his agent turn down a 20% increase..... let's see.... that must mean he is guaranteeing to have a batting average of .398 and hit 44 HR's, both 20% above his 2008 numbers........

    Excuse me, I'm going to go puke, getting sick of major league baseball.

    Posted by whozit4 February 3, 09 01:42 PM
  1. Stupid is as stupid does.....

    Posted by CS from VA February 3, 09 01:56 PM
  1. Can you imagine turning down $25 million for one year's worth of work? I'd be happy with $250,000.

    Posted by kdilkington February 3, 09 02:07 PM
  1. Hey Manny, my college intramural softball team needs an outfielder.... you want in?

    Posted by WebGem February 3, 09 02:16 PM
  1. Just Manny being Manny apparently. With a bit of Boras bing Borass thrown in. I think it would be a big hoot if he sat out the season. HA! His Ego runs his world...and it is running wild now. I don't think he'll end up with the Skankees....as another poster said, I believe they are at their limit for free agent signings. But, even if that were to occur..how funny would the Skankees be with all these competing egos??? A-Rod, Jeter, Manny, Tex.....HA...too funny. Minaya has maintained that the Mets won't be signing Ramirez.....so...looks like LA or SF are his only options that are obvious anyway. No way is he coming back here you dreamers outthere......

    Posted by Rick H February 3, 09 02:51 PM
  1. A friend of mine was the minor league hitting coordinator for the Sox from '02-'05, and a story about Manny goes like this:

    Manny picks my friend up from his hotel in Boston in his car. My friend looks in the glove box and in there are 6 paychecks, each for well over $600,000. Manny had forgot to cash them.

    He's obviously not worried about the money, he's just a moron.

    Posted by Matt February 3, 09 03:05 PM
  1. From a Red Sox fan and formerly a big fan of Manny's, all I can say is
    "WHAT A JERK!"

    Let him infect someone else's locker room. Despite his great talent with the bat,
    we're better off without him.

    Posted by Bob Nelson February 3, 09 03:18 PM
  1. Any team who does sign Manny simply needs to stipulate in his contract that he actually has to PLAY and put FULL effort into the game and not just stand around looking pretty and all impressed with himself. Nah...that wouldn't work...Manny would end up owing the team money!

    Posted by bristar February 3, 09 03:19 PM
  1. it wsnt long ago i made apologies for Manny, i fought tooth and nail against people who said bad things about him.
    Then he quit on me, he quit on the fans, he quit on his teamamtes. My mother lay dying of cancer but made sure to watch the sox games, and she loved manny. He was Manny being Manny in truth.
    WHen he decided not to come u to hit against rivera, when he sudenly had a bum knee for a half a day. When he thre an old man to the ground, he insulted her and everyone else who beleived he could do no wrong.
    She died before he left the sox. But i cant help feling that up in heaven she is shaking her head. Its gone from manny being manny , to Manny Being the greediest person ive ever seen.
    25 mil? Manny talks about god a lot, i guess he forgot about greed.

    Posted by Steveh February 3, 09 03:19 PM
  1. I hope nobody gived him a contract. Then next year he might smarten up.
    If nobody picks him up I suppose he could deliver newspapers.

    Posted by john February 3, 09 03:19 PM
  1. Manny doesn't call a good game and hasn't threatened to sit out a year yet.

    Oh wait, that only works with the Red Sox when Theo is bidding against Theo.

    Posted by Hoss February 3, 09 03:21 PM
  1. come back down to earth space cadet manny. or is it....crawl back up from hell manny and scott

    Posted by Alex February 3, 09 03:33 PM
  1. "Take the money and run"??? That's the whole problem! Manny only runs when he wants to.

    Posted by eric February 3, 09 03:42 PM
  1. Manny should take a hike, take a look around and see how much people are
    hurting these days. I hope nobody signs him on after all said and done that's what he deserves. It's guys like him that make your average family not be able to
    go see the game go to hell Manny

    Posted by Laurie February 3, 09 03:43 PM
  1. Baseball needs to get back into reality!! Millions of bucks to hit or catch a baseball is crazy. All the talented people with great minds that currently are hunting for any type of work to earn a living have to endure stories about these whiners!! Blame it all on the fans for paying as they do the paying, not the owners.

    Posted by jonas whale February 3, 09 03:49 PM
  1. Baseball needs to get back into reality!! Millions of bucks to hit or catch a baseball is crazy. All the talented people with great minds that currently are hunting for any type of work to earn a living have to endure stories about these whiners!! Blame it all on the fans for paying as they do the paying, not the owners.

    Posted by jonas whale February 3, 09 03:49 PM
  1. Maybe the Skankees are lying in wait. BUT--Manny & A-Rod on the same team? They'd need to hire a few extra SHRINKS, along with the obscene salaries!

    Posted by MJ February 3, 09 03:52 PM
  1. I hope Manny goes to the Yankees. It will be great to watch the NY press rip him when he dogs it - which he will do in the first week. I have no doubt they will come up with new and inventive ways to trash him, ways the Boston press haven't even dreamed about. The Boston fans are NOTHING compared to NY fans when they turn on a player. Talk about reaping what you sow!

    Hehee. I am giddy just thinking about it. Please, please.

    Posted by NHViewpoint February 3, 09 03:52 PM
  1. Manny being Manny!

    Posted by YYZ February 3, 09 04:08 PM
  1. THAT GUY NEEDS A SLAP!!! HIM AND HIS AGENT.......

    Posted by RUSSEL February 3, 09 04:25 PM
  1. Would someone please tell why the Yankees would pay this piece of human garbage anywhere near what he is asking when their is no competetive market out there. At least with Texeira, several big market teams were in the hunt because he is young enough to have several good years ahead of him. Boras has just misread the economic realities these teams are faced with and it will be very interesting to see how he spins it.. Why are the yankees going to pay astronomical amounts of money to a POS nobody else is chasing.

    Posted by tnrglhcm February 3, 09 04:26 PM
  1. The George Costanza negotiating technique

    Posted by Jim Borek February 3, 09 04:27 PM
  1. The reason he turned it down as well as the original two-year deal is simple. He doesn't want to have to play hard and all season to earn his pay. He simply wants the golden parachute, and then tell the manager that his hammy hurts today.

    Posted by Brian February 3, 09 04:32 PM
  1. He's got to have a Yankee offer in his back pocket. There's no doubt. The Yankees would spend the $40m just for dramatic effect alone. Money means nothing to them.

    Posted by Bob Hirshon February 3, 09 04:41 PM
  1. Are the Bruins playing tonight?

    Posted by TexLeeger February 3, 09 06:20 PM
  1. Is BIGD kidding? Theo sign Manny for 3 more years???? This post must be a joke...I think Manny has had enough of Boston and I sure have had enough of him! Even though he is a great player he is a negative force in the clubhouse and it was a good thing that he left, but of course there will be those who, like BIGD, would welcome him back (UGH)....question: Does BigD stand for BIG DOPE?

    Posted by daizy February 3, 09 07:27 PM
  1. let him go back to domincan republic and see how much money he can earn there.I am sure he can make at least $25 million a year flicking chickens

    Posted by bram london February 3, 09 08:58 PM
  1. I want to hear what Rem Dawg thinks about all of this!

    Posted by SD SOX FAN February 3, 09 09:16 PM
  1. What an OVERPAID, useless Cry Baby ! I hope he SUCKS AIR in L.A. or S.F. or wherever in the Hell he ends up; IF he ends up. The League would be better off if MR went back to the Third World and played for some crap team. Good Riddance.
    It took a hell of a lot MORE than MR for the Sox to win their championships !!!

    Posted by Mike Ballou February 3, 09 10:17 PM
  1. # 96 - Right on!! I was shocked that he was not charged with at least A&B against a senior citizen. I don't waste my time caring about what "superstars" make; but that incident was very disturbing. Never mind Jack McCormick pressing charges - you or I would have been shackled, jailed and prosecuted as a felon even if the victim did not press charges. With all the security they always have there. Why did nobody step up and make that happen???? Scary. How far would he go if presented with a bigger problem than not enough free tickets? Hopefully he will get all the money he wants and eventually go away quietly and not get crazy on the elderly when things don't go his way. What's next? Women? Children? Puppies? Baby chickens?

    Posted by citykitty617 February 3, 09 11:06 PM
  1. As a Yankee fan, I would not want Manny in pinstripes. However, it would be worth the price of admission to see Joe Girardi telling him to cut his hair. And make no mistake....he would have to, and it would be in his contract. I disagree with the Red Sox fans who think that Manny, as a Yankee, would pull his same tricks. I think he would go out of his way to be on his best behavior and create the impression that he's really a good guy who was treated unfairly.

    Posted by Nana B. February 3, 09 11:51 PM
  1. You heard it here first: "MANNY BACK TO BOSTON...Film at Eleven" I am not going to predict it's going to happen, but it wouldn't surprise me one itoa that we all wake up one morning soon and hear that Manny got 2-3 year deal with the Sox, with an option year and a bunch of "behavor contingencies" in the deal. It's hard to believe that this thought (post-Texeira signing) hasn’t been voiced upstairs. You could find one morning not too far from now that there have been clandestine secret CIA type meetings b/t the Red Sox brass and BorAss where they all will make nice ("Can we all get along"), kumbya with ownership and key Sox players, and Manny comesback. Since Manny has no other choices/options, and the Sox need his bat--they both need each other (post-Texeira signing) more now than ever, he may become contrite and apologetic, and they all have a love fest in Theo's office. Again, I'm not saying it will happen, it just wouldn't knock me over if it did. At least you HAVE to believe this was discussed on Yawkee Way in the last month. You'd be a fool if you believe otherwise.

    Posted by Steven Marks February 4, 09 05:26 AM
  1. Manny is a punk!

    Posted by Steve February 4, 09 08:10 AM
  1. As another Yankee fan, The only stripes I want to see Manny in are prison stripes for his assault on Jack McCormack.

    It amazes me how he could get away with that.

    Posted by nancestef February 4, 09 08:50 AM
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