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Day-after Q&A with Bob Ryan

Posted by David Lefort, Boston.com Staff June 13, 2008 02:15 PM

Boston Globe columnist and basketball Hall of Famer Bob Ryan checked in earlier from Los Angeles to discuss last night's historic Celtics win, which he ranks among the top 5 games in team history. Here's a transcript of the Q&A ...

Al: Bob, if Perkins & Rondo are slowed by injuries, will this have any serious impact on the series at this point?

Bob Ryan: You want the team to be at full strength. You want Doc to have all his available weapons. This is the secret story of the Finals: Unlike most teams, whether temporary or historic, the Boston Celtics really do have 13 NBA quality players at Doc's disposal, which of course, includes Brian Scalabrine. Doc exercised one option in Game 4 by using Eddie House and James Posey to spread the floor in answer to a desperate team need. NBA games play out differently. The next game might cry for the particular skills of Rondo and Perkins.

MW: Is the Celtics Defense really that good? Or is Kobe correct in saying that the Lakers played poorly?

Bob Ryan: It is to be expected that a proud, vanquished foe would put the blame on himself and his teammates. But facts are facts. 1. The Celtics have consistently proven from Game 1 that they are the most efficient defensive team in the league. 2. Kobe has played 6 games this season against the Boston Celtics. The league MVP has had one game in which he has been his MVP self. Case closed.

FrankRizzo: If the Celtics win Sunday and we get the same performance out of the big three we did yesterday does Ray Allen get the MVP?

Bob Ryan: Ray Allen is my MVP through Game 4 of the Finals. I know there is sentiment for Paul Pierce, but I would not call for a Ralph Nader investigation if he were to win the prize. But, no Celtic has been more consistently brilliant in every phase of his game than the quiet, dignified, Ray Allen, who has yet to pound his chest, not even once.

Ed: Two questions - where does last night rank among the franchise's all time great games, and does this series come back to Boston?

Bob Ryan: 1. It clearly ranks somewhere in the Top 5. I honestly need more time to reflect and research. It is dangerous to rely solely on memory. But I have been watching the Celtics intensely since 1964, and I can think of no game in any finals remotely like it. They simply haven't needed major comebacks. The natural reference is Game 3 of the 2002 Eastern Conf. Finals against the Nets when they came from 21 back in the fourth to win. But that was a fluky team in every respect, and they never won another game in that series. This is a far superior basketball team.... I am a percentage chance guy. I say there is an 80 percent chance the parade will be on Tuesday. And 19 1/2 of that 20 percent assumes Koby scores 40.

Doc_Rivers: Hey Bob, Thanks for finally coughing up some dough and paying the refs in the second half. Can you believe how many calls we DIDN'T get in the 1st half, I was going crazy, what do you think?

Bob Ryan: I think I'm tired of talking about the officials.

Shanghaisox: Doc's getting a lot of credit for pushing the right button with House in the 2nd half. Is it fair to say he was the only one up until that point who didn't realize how much House helped matchups with the Lakers?

Bob Ryan: That may be a bit extreme, but I, too, have been crying for more Eddie House. The one disturbing note in Doc's postgame interview was when he said in reference to Eddie's shooting exploits, "yeah, it was terrific. We would have gone with Eddie or Sam, honestly. We just needed a guard that they had to stay with so they couldn't help." Sam? Doc, it's time to buy a new house, move away, and forget to give Sam the forwarding address.

Woody: So if the Lakers were figured by all the "experts" to be a better team than the Celts...and let's just say Pierce gets MVP after a successful finals...then is Paul Pierce better than Michael Jordan?

Bob Ryan: For the sake of Kobe, let's declare a national moratorium on Kobe-Michael references. As Sparky Anderson said, with Thurman Munson standing in the wings waiting for his own interview, "Don't embarrass anyone by comparing him to Johnny Bench." What? You were comparing Paul Pierce to Michael Jordan? Sorry, my mind could not wrap itself around that ludicrous concept. Sorry.

MW: Are the Fakers' bench a fraud?

Bob Ryan: The Fakers bench got them here. Absent a 20 point Sasha outburst in Game 3, the Lakers bench would have thrown a complete goose egg up against Bostons. It is one of the big stories of the finals.

Drumahh: Is that Whitey Bulger sitting next to Jack Nicholson?

Bob Ryan: No. It's record producer Lou Adler who has been Jack's faithful Tonto as these games for more than 20 years.

Madara: Bob, what do you think led Doc to leave Ray Allen in for every minute of the game... Opposing match-up? Ray hitting on all cylinders?

Bob Ryan: Great question. I'm going to ask him, was there any discussion among the coaches? Did anyone even notice? It's so rare in this day and age for anyone to pull a Havlicek, but if any of the Celtics were capable of doing so based on conditioning, you knew it would be Ray Allen.

Drumahh: Do you think KG gets more time in the low post next game? All the commentators are saying, "Just get the ball to Kevin in the low post and things will take care of themselves."

Bob Ryan: : We've been asking Kevin Garnett to be more of a frequent visitor to the low box for 13 years, and Mr. Garnett has politely refused. It ain't gonna change now. He came into our life as a 7 foot forward. That's how he has framed his game. That's who he wants to be. And that, by the way, got him the $26 million contract. So be it. ... one last point on Ray Allen, I didn't even know he had gone 48 until I was reading the box score over my IN-AND-OUT double-burger two hours after the game.

Jon_Biss_10: Will Doc start Game 5 with Ray Allen defending Kobe, or will he put that load on Pierce's shoulders?

Bob Ryan: My guess if Ray Allen will start the game on Kobe, and they will give him different looks. Remember, the tipping point for Doc's agreeing to let Pierce guard him in the 3rd quarter was Pierce's reminder that he had no personal fouls entering the second half. It was circumstantial. And it was beneficial.

AJS: What about Doc out-coaching the great Zen Master? Is Phil Jackson overrated?

Bob Ryan: I generally detest simplistic comparisons of coaches in any short term situation. Let's just say that Doc has done more things right for his team than Phil apparently has for the Lakers. I remind you once again, the Celtics are the better, deeper, more versatile team. Doc is exploiting his weapons.

southie: Do the shooting percentages and overall games compare to those in the '80s or is this an overall ugly series to watch?

Bob Ryan: I'm always amused when people reveal themselves to have no personal institutional memories. The 1984 Boston Celtics -- no make that the 1984, 85, 86, and 87 Boston Celtics -- were all capable of winning games while shooting less than 40 percent. If the only way to win on that day was assaulting the offensive glass, that's what they did. So, what I'm saying is, nothing new either way. We have great reverence for those storied names of the '80s, but what really distinguished them was the ability to get down and dirty when necessary. This team clearly has the same mentality.

Wojo15: Bob, first...what a game! With David Stern and the NBA trying to make Kobe look like a "good" person, what do you think about his postgame comments about taking "20 shots or so" and drinking a lot of wine to get over the loss...not the kind of comments I want my kids hearing from the so-called best player in the NBA. Thoughts? Should Stern just give up on him?

Bob Ryan: I, too, cringed when I heard that coming out of Kobe's mouth. He was trying to be cool. It didn't work. Some people chose to quote him, some didn't. I was one of the latter. I chose to make an attempt to save Kobe from himself.

The_other_JD: Bob, How did the Lakers get by the Spurs and their defense so easily? Aren't they being exposed as soft?

Bob Ryan: The Spurs revealed themselves to be old and a team that has to be discussed in the past tense. I felt all along the Celtics would hammer the Spurs, so the Spurs are not the barometer they once were.

Jmac: The '80s seemed to be all about rebounding. You don't hear that now as much. No?

Bob Ryan: Apparently you haven't been listening to many coaches lately. If you want to run, you must rebound. If you want to consider yourself a good defensive team, you must get the defensive rebound, or else a good defensive possession could be wasted. People talk about rebounding as much as they ever did.

Stu: How big was James Posey last night?? And will he be back next year?

Bob Ryan: James Posey has been magnificent of late. Had the Celtics found a way to win Game 3, which was certainly in their grasp, we would have written posies about Posey. In Game 4 he was everything Pat Riley told the Boston media earlier this season he would be in the playoffs. If there is even the slightest hint of James Posey heading for another destination next year, we should set up road blocks as every major artery leading in and out of Boston, plus put a 24-hour guard at Logan. Have I made myself clear? Thanks folks, gotta run. BR.

17 comments so far...
  1. WILL ANY OF BOSTON TV CHANNELS RE BROADCAST THIS GAME BEFORE
    GAME 5

    Posted by ROB URBAN June 13, 08 03:10 PM
  1. Bob,

    I dont like your tone when you Respond to questions…you are very condescending….do you hate the blog?

    Posted by Tim June 13, 08 03:11 PM
  1. Bob,
    The most telling comparison of the series was when the Lakers staged a comback in game 3 and couldn't close the deal, but the Celts were able to comeback and finish it last night. I think this takes the wind out of the Lakers sails and game 5 is a Celts blowout.
    What are your thoughts on the impact of the this?

    Posted by Fred Powers June 13, 08 04:19 PM
  1. "Unlike most teams, whether temporary or historic, the Boston Celtics really do have 13 NBA quality players at Doc's disposal, which of course, includes Brian Scalabrine."

    This coming from the guy who said in August that the Celtics might have the worst bench in NBA history?

    Nice call on that one Bob!!

    Posted by Steve June 13, 08 04:41 PM
  1. Are you not concerned that the Lakers will come roaring back with a full, four quarter effort on Sunday? We had an epic win but this one is not in the bag yet. I still remeber the Mother's Day Massacre in the 80s when the Celts beat the Lakers by 34 in game one only to lose the next two games and eventually, the series. How do we avoid this?

    Posted by Sam Edgerton June 13, 08 05:22 PM
  1. Do you think Doc's stoic outward appearance during Game 4's first-half debacle contributed to the Celtics incredible win?

    Posted by Dave Lennox June 13, 08 05:40 PM
  1. Bob -

    Next time you go to INN-N-OUT ask for the "animal" - I'm having one after the Celtics win it all next Sunday.

    Posted by Joe - SoCal transplant from Boston June 13, 08 06:20 PM
  1. Ok, fine. I can admit when I am wrong. I wrote an email a while back giving hell to Doc Rivers. But as it turns out, at least in my humble opinion, he's a better coach than I thought.

    Some pretty good work on spreading the floor and having all shooters around Garnett.

    Go Celtics.

    Posted by Mark Markunas June 13, 08 07:33 PM
  1. This series is over. The Celts would have swept if PP and KG didn't have horrible shooting nights in Game 3. The Fakers are S-O-F-T! The difference between this Celts comeback and the one against the Nets, is the Nets were the better TEAM then. The Celts are clearly the better TEAM now. Better defense. Better rebounding. Much more aggressive and physical. Kobe is the best player, but the "New Three" combined are much better than the SOFT LO and PG. Our bench is much better with Posey (who is the perfect 6th man), EH (thanks to LA's lack of pressure), + PJ (who at 38 has been consistent offensive + defensive presence in the playoffs). The small lineup the Celts used exposed the Fakers as POOR individual defenders once they couldn't double team and had to respect all 5 shooters. Make sure you all bring your Re-sign Posey signs to the rally.

    Posted by Joe Mama June 13, 08 08:34 PM
  1. Celtics rule! We win the Sunday game. And will bring the championship to where it belongs.

    Posted by Carlos Maciel June 13, 08 08:54 PM
  1. Mr Ryan,

    This is a bit comical reading your dialoguwe with your readers. Here are the facts:

    The Lakers were blowing out the Celts and the Celts barely came back and won a historic game. Remember, the Celts barely won this game. all the credit to them for a great comeback but your coents make it seem like there is this great disparity between the teams. your comment that Kobe must drop 40 or 99.5% sure it's a Celtic victory is either just playing to your readers or you simply being a homer. It's not a considered thought.

    I believe the Lakers will most likely win game 5 and the Celts will have their hands in Game 6 and Game 7, if it goes that far. These teams are that close........

    Posted by danny June 13, 08 08:58 PM
  1. Bob: You indicate that the Spurs are "past tense" in response to how easily did the Lakers beat the Spurs. I remind you that the Spurs were up 20 on the Lakers and lost because they could not hit a shot in the second half. Remember, there was a last second shot to tie or win the 2nd game in San Antonio. So the Spurs were right there for the most part. Problem was that Ginobili was not himself with a torn finger nail and a foot that would not let him jump. Had Ginolbil been his usualy 20 point plus during the series, The Spurs would have beaten the lakers. I saw every game they played in the playoffs and have a pretty good feel for how good they can be, but only when Ginobili is himself. Against the Lakers, he was not. I would not count out the Spurs just yet.

    Posted by SportsDoc June 13, 08 10:15 PM
  1. Bob is always condescending. Try getting him to admit he was wrong last summer when he belittled giddy celtic's fans after the KG deal. I think he said the Celtics were not even in the top 8 in the east after the trade. Yea the role players Ainge added are a huge part of the team, but the starting 5 alone would easily have made the playoffs. Bob should be eating crow instead of that burger.

    Posted by Chris June 13, 08 11:16 PM
  1. Doc has done a good job, added by good assistants. However, I find the miking of his pre-game and half-time talks comically collegiate. His advantage is that Garnett and Pierce are very emotional guys and respond to that. (Allen looks bemused.) Never would have worked with the Bird Celtics. Bird: Just Give me the ball and get out of the way. KC: Hey! I'm the coach here. I'll call the plays! OK, guys, listen to Larry.

    Posted by Steve June 14, 08 06:40 AM
  1. Bob....Any chance of seeing the game 4 on a rerun??? Fell asleep!!!!!!

    Posted by Bob Ford June 14, 08 12:22 PM
  1. The Fakers won't be going anywhere except to the golf course on Monday. These teams are so far apart the Celts were able to prevent LA from coming back from a 20+ point deficit at home AND come back from a 20+ point deficit to LA on the road. The Fakers lost both games. WHEN LA loses the series 4-1, loses 2 games at home, and could just have easily been swept; you can't say the teams are close. If LA can't outscore their opponents they can't win. The Celts can outscore and out defend. As well as out rebound and out hustle. Face it LA fans KG, PP, and RA want it a hell of a lot more than your team. Kobe wants it but not enough to will a bunch of SOFTIES to victory. There is no way LA would be able to even make it to the finals if they were in the East and had to play Boston, Detroit, and Cleveland first; all of which can actually play defense!

    Posted by Joe Mama June 14, 08 04:17 PM
  1. Consider this, My Ryan. Ray Allen should have been the MVP of the All Star Game.. Right now, as you said, he is the favorite for the MVP of the NBA Finals. Not bad for a guy who could have sulked because he does not get the number of shots he has received in the past.

    Posted by JerryC_CelticsFan_In_OrangeCounty_CA June 14, 08 09:20 PM
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