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Celtics agree to deals with House, Tony Allen

Posted by Marc J. Spears, Globe Staff July 21, 2008 11:13 AM

The Celtics lost James Posey to the open market, but today they were able to retain a couple of other free-agent reserves from their championship season.

The Celtics agreed to terms with guards Eddie House and Tony Allen to return, general manager Danny Ainge announced today. Both will get two-year contracts (though House's second year is a player option, according to an NBA source). House's deal was made using a portion of the team's $5.5 million mid-level exception. According to the source, House will make $2.7 million next season and $2.9 million the year after if he excercises his option.

House, who will enter his second season with the team, averaged 7.5 points and 19 minutes per game during the regular season, but those averages dropped to 2.5 points and just under 8 minutes in the postseason.

Allen agreed to a two-year guaranteed deal paying $2.5 million each year, according to a league source. Since the Celtics had Allen's Bird Rights, they didn't have to use the mid-level exception to re-sign him. Allen, who will enter his fifth season in green, averaged 6.6 points and just over 18 minutes per game during the regular season and 1.3 points in about 4 minutes per game in the playoffs.

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Agent Mark Bartelstein, who also represents House, said the Celtics are interested in another of his free-agent clients: forward Devean George, who averaged 3.7 points per game for the Mavericks last season. The 31-year-old George played on three Lakers title teams.

73 comments so far...
  1. Glad this happened especially Tony, you need a good year to come back from a serious injury.

    Posted by Mike July 21, 08 11:47 AM
  1. Whoopty freakin doo. Posey was KEY

    Posted by Dave July 21, 08 11:54 AM
  1. Losing Posey still hurts - but he wasn't worth the fourth year.

    If Tony Allen can give them comparable defense off the bench (a big "if"), it's a great signing.

    And I've previously endorsed re-signing House, since I like his ability to spread the floor and knock down 3's. Recall in Games 4 and 5 in LA, the C's best lineup was: Pierce, Ray Allen, KG, House and Posey.

    Not sure if the cap allows them to make a run at Matt Barnes, but if so, that's the final move to make.

    Posted by Satch July 21, 08 11:57 AM
  1. great news for the C's

    Posted by dan miller July 21, 08 11:59 AM
  1. Good to have these guys back. Look for Tony Allen, another year removed from knee surgery, to regain his explosiveness and confidence on the court. This should lead to an improvement on both sides of the ball. House is a solid role player off the bench with the ability to nail timely 3's.

    Posted by David July 21, 08 12:01 PM
  1. Sounds like Danny is off the "name" free agent market with the mid level 1/2 gone.

    Posted by Steve C July 21, 08 12:14 PM
  1. Good News after losing James Posey.
    House can spread the offensive sets and Allen is athletical
    and can slash to the basket.

    Danny Ainge now go get Ryan Gomes?

    Posted by BigCat July 21, 08 12:21 PM
  1. Satch, Matt Barnes is already signed. He signed with Phoenix. early Monday morning and is scheduled for a physical today. Oh well.

    Posted by mh July 21, 08 12:57 PM
  1. Satch, you're right. Matt Barnes is the #1 priority right now. We need him now, while Giddens and Walker mature for the next few years. Our window is now! Not when those two get better.


    Posted by No Nickname July 21, 08 12:59 PM
  1. unfortunately Phoenix already picked up Barnes. i'm REALLY hoping we don't sign Devean George personally. that guy isn't good enough to offset the fact he has an attitude problem. remember the leaps and bounds Dallas had to make for the Jason Kidd deal because of him? Ryan Gomes would be a sweet pickup if he's not resigned already. any forward who can shoot and play decent defense at this point would be nice.

    Posted by Disco July 21, 08 01:07 PM
  1. I like the move a lot, I thought House was a great PG, if only he could bring the ball up the court. Cassel somehow was given much playing time because he could easily bring the ball up the court. But was it worth it? Cassel single handedly destroyed the offense by taking ill-advised shots, something inconceivable when you have the scoring ability of the new Big Three. I hope this means that Cassel isn't coming back, and House gets more playing time guaranteed.

    Posted by Ben July 21, 08 01:13 PM
  1. Way to go green machine this gives us a better chance to continue to be one of the most feared teams in the east with everyone trying to duplicate our championship with the big 3 we at least compete for the next couple of years maybe 2 if lucky,I'd say 3 years before age starts to catch up but for now we are champs

    Posted by mohammad July 21, 08 01:33 PM
  1. "Not sure if the cap allows them to make a run at Matt Barnes, but if so, that's the final move to make. "

    Barnes is signing with Phoenix for the veteran minimum. So yes, I think we did have the cap room, but he was apparently not in our plans. I still see a gaping hole, where Posey used to stand.

    Posted by Mick July 21, 08 01:52 PM
  1. YAY!

    Posted by nate July 21, 08 01:56 PM
  1. Good.

    Posted by Ush July 21, 08 02:02 PM
  1. What a shame. I don't mind the House re-signing, but I was hoping Allen would be on his way out.

    Posted by mike July 21, 08 02:05 PM
  1. I have no idea what they see in Tony Allen. He seems to be a very good athlete, but seems to have no true basketball IQ. He usually looks out of control when he is on the floor (especially on offense). Maybe he'll learn some more basketball skills from playing with this group of guys, but it seems like wasted money to me.

    I like the re-signing of Eddie House, but it would have looked even better paired with James Posey.

    Posted by Jim R July 21, 08 02:06 PM
  1. So wat are they goin to do bout J.R. Giddens

    Posted by Dominique July 21, 08 02:07 PM
  1. so so for the celts....first off re-signing tony allen was possibly the worst move ever and a waste of money. house on the other hand was a good signing because he provides instant offense off the bench.

    Posted by greg July 21, 08 02:17 PM
  1. I am so glad they re-signing Tony Allen & Eddie House now they can go head on in sign J.R. Giddens. he going be force in lead. when Ray Allen is on the brench. they will not miss a beat.he is a great around player.

    Posted by casper July 21, 08 02:20 PM
  1. Posey was a solid 6 man...there's no doubt about that but I think Allen's going to have a big year. He's coming off a serious knee injury, normally one that takes a solid year and a half before being fully recovered. What he showed two years ago makes me believe that if he is mentally over the knee, he will make us forget about Posey.

    House is a good bench player. Hopefully he won't have to handle the ball too much. Let's hope that Gabe Pruitt can help out the team this year, or they can find a serviceable back-up to Rondo...if that's even possible with the salary cap situation.

    Posted by Mark July 21, 08 02:35 PM
  1. i am glad they re-signing Tony & EIddie.now go head on in sign J.R.Giddens,he is all around player.when Ray Allen is on the brench they will not miss a beat.

    Posted by CASPER July 21, 08 02:41 PM
  1. huge signings.... ensures we wont be bringing back a whole new group of the bench. House was key in the title push and Tony Allen showed flashes that he was healthy in his limited minutes in the finals....We will miss Posey's timely three's more than his defense so adding a battle tested vet who has the gusto to take and make big shots will be key

    Posted by Pat July 21, 08 03:14 PM
  1. They still need some scoring off the bench Bonzi Wells is a guy they should add. He can be had for about 2.5 mil

    Tony Allen could be good and for 2 years makes sense

    Posted by Craig Jones July 21, 08 03:19 PM
  1. I like the move a lot, I thought House was a great PG, if only he could bring the ball up the court. Cassel somehow was given much playing time because he could easily bring the ball up the court. But was it worth it? Cassel single handedly destroyed the offense by taking ill-advised shots, something inconceivable when you have the scoring ability of the new Big Three. I hope this means that Cassel isn't coming back, and House gets more playing time guaranteed.

    Posted by Ben July 21, 08 03:32 PM
  1. Posey was good but he wasn’t the whole team. Leon and Big Baby can fill those shoes just give them some time. Remember Leon was an animal during the playoffs.

    Posted by B-Town Fan July 21, 08 03:34 PM
  1. Can't replace a Posey/Horry type player. Those guys have 3 key traits: can hit clutch 3 in tight game; has respect from officials so can even guard a star; doesn't care much about reg season minutes.

    Tony Allen doesn't have refs respect -- a solid defender but no rep yet, would get called for every bump of a Lebron. Liability on offense in playoffs.

    Eddie can hit a clutch 3 but can't defend.

    If Celts are to contend again, it'll be b/c Rondo and Perk both blossom into legit Q4 playoff guys, not guys you hide with Posey. Also will be improved in playoffs simply because of no Cassell.

    Posted by MG July 21, 08 03:36 PM
  1. Disco, what Ryan Gomes games do you watch? He plays ZERO defense. I like Gomes, but there's no place for his game on this team. Not to mention, we don't have the dollars to make an offer Minnesota wouldn't match.

    Posted by Derek July 21, 08 03:38 PM
  1. You have to remember that in 2006/2007, Tony Allen had a Fantastic Year!! He was an up & coming player. The knee injury was devastating. He never looked comfortable last year.

    However, he is a 26 year old swingman, who had a PER of 17.05 in 06/07. Just to give you some perspective, Ray Allen's PER this past year was 16.45. I am not saying that Tony Allen is better than R Allen, not even a close. What I am saying is that signing Tony to this type of deal is a great bargain.

    Posted by Scott July 21, 08 03:48 PM
  1. the key "name" is JR Giddens my friends

    Posted by Chris July 21, 08 04:15 PM
  1. The right thing to do.......T.A will be back and Eddie is Eddie........J.R Giddens is the wild card.......

    Posted by Big J.D July 21, 08 04:20 PM
  1. People are forgetting we got JR Giddens, give him a chance and we"ll be saying Posey who?

    Posted by KP July 21, 08 04:22 PM
  1. so so for the celts....first off re-signing tony allen was possibly the worst move ever and a waste of money. house on the other hand was a good signing because he provides instant offense off the bench.

    Posted by greg July 21, 08 04:27 PM
  1. "I thought House was a great PG, if only he could bring the ball up the court."

    So he's a great PG who can't bring the ball up the court? Sort of like a great center who can't rebound or defend or a great shooting guard who doesn't have a good shot. I wasn't a fan of giving Posey four years, but I'm honestly not sure what Tony Allen adds to this team and where House fits in. Didn't the Celts figure out during the playoffs that he can't play the point? At least he learned the offense, unlike Sam!

    Posted by Craig July 21, 08 04:42 PM
  1. Probably better to have them aboard than not...but neither are of the caliber of Posey. If the Celtics are really interested in repeating they have more work to do. They need to be better next year than they were this year and so far they aren't even as good. Danny's work is cut out for him. LOL...Dave's comment #2 isn't far off.

    Posted by LACeltFanSince62 July 21, 08 04:47 PM
  1. Barnes is a thug; best not to have him.

    Posted by Vianden July 21, 08 05:06 PM
  1. I think we're going to see a big difference in Tony Allen this year. He wasn't a factor in the playoffs because he was stifled on the bench. I think now that Posey is gone, his minutes will increase. This will allow him to get more comfortable in his role and be more productive.

    I think we should all have faith in him this season and give him the benefit of the doubt to improve. Remember our last vision of how good he can be is that reverse jam alley oop from Eddie House in game 6 of the finals. That was just a taste of what he is capable of and still stands out in my mind.

    Posted by mh July 21, 08 05:06 PM
  1. They're taking a flyer on TA. For 2 years, why not see if he can come back. Next season will be a better indicator than this year. House was a good signing. They still have a hole at the backup 3. I wouldn't be surprised if the celts sign somebody at the trade deadline for the backup 5 (PJ maybe?).

    Posted by Colin Blair July 21, 08 05:11 PM
  1. this is just a waste of the exemption money when we need to upgrade not downgrade. Allen has been hurt for over two seasons now he will never be the player the Celtics once imagined. And YEAAAAAAAA we bring back let me throw up some bricks in the HOUSEEEE. hes shoots consistently at 22 percent most nights and cannot bring the ball up hes a wait ,what is it called? Oh yea its called A LIABILITY!!!!!!

    Posted by Rory July 21, 08 05:13 PM
  1. good signings.allen, house, pruitt, giddens, walker, o'bryant, powe, and baby should be good enough but i would love to see them sign bonzi wells

    Posted by markov July 21, 08 05:34 PM
  1. Gomes is a restricted free agent, Minn. made a qualifying offer, meaning the C's would have to match 'em......don't think the C's got the money for that.....he would be nice though, member the big pt-big reb. games he would come up with every now and then, solid player......shoulda used some of T.A's money to get him along with the Posey money.....

    Posted by Ferris July 21, 08 05:34 PM
  1. A damage control move. However, if the big three show championship promise in the early going they'll once again be able to attract the additional fire-sale bench players they'll need to finish. Tony Allen looks finished, sorry to say

    Posted by Jim July 21, 08 05:34 PM
  1. damage control move. However, if the big three show championship promise in the early going they'll once again be able to attract the additional fire-sale bench players they'll need to finish. Tony Allen looks finished, sorry to say

    Posted by Jim July 21, 08 05:36 PM
  1. Tony Allen can be a 20 pt 10 rebounds a game player. He will be healthy and all he needs is playing time. Confidence after an injury is major. Mark my words this is a great signing for the money !!

    Posted by Chuck July 21, 08 05:41 PM
  1. Eddie House is a good signing. We are impossible to defense when the big three and he is on the floor. His limitations are well known and Pierce or Allen have to bring up the ball in certain situations.
    Tony Allen is more of an unknown. If he is healthy and confident he can be very effective and plays very good man to man defense. I don't see him playing more than 15 minutes unless there is foul trouble. He plays best when he is expected to be the man on the second unit. He otherwise tends to get lost on offense and his 3 ball is eratic.

    Posted by larry July 21, 08 05:45 PM
  1. Great Job signing eddie house especially. Will help the C's depth off the bench next season.

    Posted by Mike July 21, 08 05:47 PM
  1. too much is put on Posey. Seriously , we'll repeat.

    Posted by James July 21, 08 06:05 PM
  1. The right thing to do.......T.A will be back and Eddie is Eddie........J.R Giddens is the wild card.......

    Posted by Big J.D July 21, 08 06:06 PM
  1. They should have let T.A. walk. He is frightening when he trys to handle the ball. They still need someone to back up Perk.

    Posted by Dave Langan July 21, 08 06:29 PM
  1. With those guys back we will make posey feeling sorry for his decision!!! GO C'S!!
    I'm sure Tony has got much more to offer then last season. Second year after his injury will already show a lot of progress. House is finding his role into the C's team. Those guys can cover up Posey and tony allen has got the chance to shine when he probably gets more minutes.

    Posted by Michael July 21, 08 06:37 PM
  1. Eddie is money. Whenever he hoists one up I yell Money. SO glad he's back for likely 2 more runs at a title. T A has potential to be a star as we saw when pierce was hurt, what seems like so long ago. He was scoring 20 - 25 a night for a couple months there. Good defensively and has a good attitude and repor with Doc. Ryan Gomes would be a huge bench pickup. He's a future starter and a local hero in Conn. and Prov. Great in the community. I don't see it happening though, since Minn. realizes how important he could be and can match any offer. Mchale must recognize his potential talent at that position or as big small foward.

    Posted by faddy baller July 21, 08 06:38 PM
  1. Not bad deals. Just sign Giddens for cheap and our bench will be straight. I like the two year length, free up some money in 2010. Deals could still be made midseason, nothing spectacular but it might be worth having a few contracts like these to help salaries match up if something goes down.

    Really we're in a good position to repeat. Nobody in the east got significantly better, besides maybe Phillie but they cant be taken too seriously yet.

    Posted by Ted July 21, 08 06:40 PM
  1. I hear a lot of people complain about Posey's exit. Listen guys, Posey's is a fine player, no doubt; but he's 31 years old! four years is unrealistic and I don't blame Danny Ainge a bit - that man knows what he's doing. Thank God House and Allen is back! plus Patrick O' Bryant is young and healthy - all he needs is motivation from role players (like Garnett and Pierce) and he'll be good to go. If we play the same defense like we did last season, ladies and gentlemen, welcome banner 18 next season.

    Posted by Michael July 21, 08 06:57 PM
  1. Gomes is a restricted free agent, Minn. made a qualifying offer, meaning the C's would have to match 'em......don't think the C's got the money for that.....he would be nice though, member the big pt-big reb. games he would come up with every now and then, solid player......shoulda used some of T.A's money to get him along with the Posey money.....

    Posted by Ferris July 21, 08 07:11 PM
  1. Signing House is a big step for us to repeat. I'm sad to see Posey go and i blame Ainge for that but i feel goood about Eddie coming off the bench and hitting clutch 3 pointers!

    Posted by TB July 21, 08 07:13 PM
  1. NOT Devean George. The guy's a head case! Bad attitude, a thug, and an overall moron. This guy will destroy what is now a remarkable cast of players.

    Posey was great and yes we'll miss him but move on already. Four years would've been too long for his contract.

    Posted by John July 21, 08 08:28 PM
  1. Posey is gone, but we must move on. I like the patrick O' Bryant signing...he's gonna have a great season. He's young and believe it or not, he's gonna want to prove his worth. But we desperately need an extra perimeter shooter, someone like Mike Finley will be great! But people, lets not worry about Posey cus four years on him is bad business...simple!

    Posted by Michael July 21, 08 08:30 PM
  1. Eddie is money. Whenever he hoists one up I yell Money. SO glad he's back for likely 2 more runs at a title. T A has potential to be a star as we saw when pierce was hurt, what seems like so long ago. He was scoring 20 - 25 a night for a couple months there. Good defensively and has a good attitude and repor with Doc. Ryan Gomes would be a huge bench pickup. He's a future starter and a local hero in Conn. and Prov. Great in the community. I don't see it happening though, since Minn. realizes how important he could be and can match any offer. Mchale must recognize his potential talent at that position or as big small foward.

    Posted by faddy baller July 21, 08 08:44 PM
  1. Signing House is a big step for us to repeat. I'm sad to see Posey go and i blame Ainge for that but i feel goood about Eddie coming off the bench and hitting clutch 3 pointers!

    Posted by TB July 21, 08 09:13 PM
  1. Relieved the celts signed TA and E House! They both can contribute plus they know the system and the team. Remember who was standing next to PP during the celebration after Game 6-- Tony Allen. I think he's got more left in the tank and has something to prove.

    Posted by Bill July 21, 08 09:22 PM
  1. Celtics are wasting there time with tony allen. He will never be the team defensive stopper cause he goes for every fake in the book, and doesn't know how to move his feet. Posey was a great defender in college and carried it into the nba. Celtic still need a backup point guard when rondo is on the bench. House is horrible at bringing the ball up, and trying to make pruitt a point guard is a joke. Telfair might be the only point guard available. He doesn't turn the ball over and averaged 6 assist last year.

    Posted by Slick July 21, 08 09:44 PM
  1. This was needed and expected. These are both good players who are well integrated into the Celtics defensive concepts and offensive scheme. House may need help bringing the ball up if pressed, but Ray Allen and Paul Pierce can assist him if that happens.

    Now we really have to wait. I don't think Danny is likely to make too many more moves until other teams begin to cut down. Those new recruits offer some promise and Danny needs to see how they work into the scheme of things and what holed he and Doc feel they need to fill.

    Posted by Gene S July 21, 08 11:33 PM
  1. Ok Girls, here it is...
    1) Posey would have been good, and he might, just might, bring a championship to N.O. But, the market is imperfect, and N.O. paid dearly for the chance of a title - 3 years year for JP was too much, and N.O. paid 4.
    2) The EHouse deal is a good one...
    3) Not so sure re: TA - at the $$$, I say he's worth looking at to defend against a 2/3 scorer. On the offensive end, it was painful to watch him, but maybe another year removed from surgery will help. OTOH, he doesn't seem to possess a good IQ...
    4) Devean George...hmmm, did you say Devean George!! I'd rather Scal...
    5) Ryan Gomes - not sure we could entice him now that the $$$ aren't quite there, but he would be a no brainer.
    6) Sammy C...thanks for no memories...
    7) P.O'B - IF he matures, he might work long term - I like the signing.
    8) Still need PG back up - Pruitt should stay, but then an injury would really mess things up. I was really hoping for JCN (Juan Carlos Navarro) in a trade w/ Memphis - but he just bolted the Grizzlies for big $$$ back to Espana - maybe something can still be worked out - maybe for a future 2nd rounder?? He is older and can really play - Memphis was just NOT the place for him.

    Posted by BD2 July 21, 08 11:46 PM
  1. Good moves, Tony is returning to form of 2 years ago and E House can shoot, The guy they need to go after is Bonzi Wells......not quite the defender posey is but WAT better offensively, and an animal come playoff time. He's a free agent, unrestricted, and hungry for a ring. Matt Barnes too the league minny in Phoenix, Gomes is restricted and will get a full mid-level, and Devean George sucks.........Bonzi is the man!

    Posted by snake July 21, 08 11:54 PM
  1. Not sure how I feel about signing Tony Allen. House is cool. Right now the C's have 12 players signed. Add Giddens and Walker and that is 14. I imagine they will leave the 15th spot open for a mid season replacement. Unless Walker plays in Europe I don't see them signing anyone else. They could use another decent player. Would have loved to see them make an offer on Josh Childress. Think he would fit on the bench nicely.

    Posted by John July 22, 08 12:59 AM
  1. Signing House is cool. Not sure about signing Tony Allen. He is a decent player but we only have so many roster spots open. There are now 12 signed players. Add Giddens and Walker and that makes 14. The C's would probably leave the 15th spot open for a mid season signing. Unless Walker goes to Europe they will not sign anyone else. I would have loved to have seen Josh Childress come. Think he would have helped off the bench.
    Wish there was some way to get a roster exemption on Scal. lol.

    Posted by John July 22, 08 01:19 AM
  1. go get darius miles hes a good defender!!!

    Posted by daryl July 22, 08 02:35 AM
  1. I love these moves. It was unrealistic to think we could sign Posey, House, and Allen this offseason, so two out of three isn't bad. We know what we have in House. He also lessons some of the blow of losing Posey. We'll still have the clutch three point bombing coming off the bench. The signing of Cassell actually hurt House's game. He seemed to be a different player after he arrived.
    Yes, Allen is a wild-card. Remeber the year he hurt his knee? He was shaping up to be the best player after Pierce and Jefferson. He was that explosive. He should have a huge year and easily replace Posey's stats. I actually had some concern when he injured his achilles tendon before the finals. I felt we would need him to man up on Kobe. Luckily we didn't, but he's a heck of a defender. He's actually more of an in your face kind of guy than Posey. Posey is just smarter and picks his spots. This is a good move for the Celts. Maybe one more small move and go with what we've got. I wouldn't look too much into the P.J. Brown retirement. Watch how many calls he starts getting around February. He doesn't need to play the whole year anyway. Maybe the C's wait and see what they have in O'Bryant and if he isn't panning out - sign P.J. late in the season. It worked once before.

    Posted by JOHN July 22, 08 03:19 AM
  1. I love these moves. It was unrealistic to think we could sign Posey, House, and Allen this offseason, so two out of three isn't bad. We know what we have in House. He also lessons some of the blow of losing Posey. We'll still have the clutch three point bombing coming off the bench. The signing of Cassell actually hurt House's game. He seemed to be a different player after he arrived.
    Yes, Allen is a wild-card. Remeber the year he hurt his knee? He was shaping up to be the best player after Pierce and Jefferson. He was that explosive. He should have a huge year and easily replace Posey's stats. I actually had some concern when he injured his achilles tendon before the finals. I felt we would need him to man up on Kobe. Luckily we didn't, but he's a heck of a defender. He's actually more of an in your face kind of guy than Posey. Posey is just smarter and picks his spots. This is a good move for the Celts. Maybe one more small move and go with what we've got. I wouldn't look too much into the P.J. Brown retirement. Watch how many calls he starts getting around February. He doesn't need to play the whole year anyway. Maybe the C's wait and see what they have in O'Bryant and if he isn't panning out - sign P.J. late in the season. It worked once before.

    Posted by JOHN July 22, 08 03:59 AM
  1. SIGN BONZI WELLS-UNDERESTIMATED TALENT-PATRICK O BRYANT IS NOT PJ BROWN-NEED ANOTHER OLDER BIG MAN-

    Posted by JEREMIAH- July 22, 08 04:26 AM
  1. Signing Eddie means we have a good shot at repeating. Ainge failed to resign Posey but keeping House was big. I feel our bench is in pretty good shape but would like to get another veteran who knows how to win!

    Posted by TB July 22, 08 09:31 AM
  1. JR Giddens will be part of the Ncaa Slam Dunk (taped earlier) contest on Espn2 @9pm. Hope we sign Bonzi next. Devean George is useless.

    Posted by JameyBurke July 22, 08 07:26 PM
  1. Everybody deserves a chances to prove himself, remember Rondo was counted out as a veteran point guard - what can they say now? Anyway, about Tony Allen re-signing, he'll be fine and I believe his knee injury wasn't a 100% last season (I'd say 89%). I expect him to be back in full force - he just needs to spend time shooting the basket! House is great too.
    By the time next season starts, Posey will be forgotten quickly; watch out for Giddens, Walker and Pato! (Thats the new nick name I have for Patrick O' Bryant). Everyone should be excited, why? Cus next season will be better that the previous season. Ubuntu! Ubuntu!! Ubuntu!!!

    Posted by Michael July 23, 08 11:09 AM
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