Force feed Fenway
During my college years, I spent many a night across the border at Ye Olde Olympic Stadium, a generally antiseptic environment where watching a baseball game often denigrated into an experience of the surreal. Three dollar seats, thousands of which went uninhabited, were the ultimate draw, not to mention that new-fangled Iced brewed Labatt’s.
The Expos were good back then, or least in existence, and I found myself often riveted by them on a daily basis, learning to appreciate Pedro Martinez years before he arrived in Boston, erroneously believing that Mike Lansing was baseball’s best second baseman. But going to the games was just ... well, weird for someone who grew up spending summer evenings at cramped Fenway Park. The French, the dome, the deafening din of empty seat backs clapping. It was baseball for sure, but it was baseball as you’d imagine they’d play it one day on the third moon of Bespin.
Apropos of nothing, I remember vividly watching incredulously one night as a car drove from the bullpen, across center field, and onto home plate in between innings, part of a local dealership promotion. For some reason, that sealed it for me. This was the game played in an environment that no other place would ever challenge, a cavernous dump that drew me in for its sheer oddity. I found myself leaving most evenings, shaking my head, "[Insert peculiarity here] would never happen at Fenway."
This all came back to me last night as I watched the Red Sox try, yet again, to force NASCAR down our throats with an embarrassing display of its Roush Fenway racing team, which will make its way to Loudon this weekend. NESN went all out, cutting Nick Cafardo's pregame notebook short (he was only delivering, you know, baseball news) in order to broadcast the pregame ceremony that about 11 folks in the park seemed to give a damn about. After Jonathan Papelbon got the final out, the camera immediately shifted to John Henry's box seats for the reaction of the Roush folks, yet another nauseating moment of self cross-promotion that is the norm these days over on Yawkey.
Of course, there was also a car on the field and a huge checkered flag covering the wall in left with the numbers of the drivers I guess you're supposed to care about. I can't imagine anyone leaving Fenway with a Roush Fenway T-shirt in tow, sort of like those who buy a Stuart Scott catchphrase T-shirt at Disney World. One has nothing to do with the other, except blatant corporate synergy. Congratulations if you're sucker enough to fall for it.
For two nights this week I just wanted to watch a baseball game, and was instead greeted by an endless stream of "Praise Remy" and "Watch Car Racing" hammerings. It's gotten to the point where you can't wait for the Red Sox to be on the road, where there's less chance of the Sox/NESN/Dunkin' Donuts using the sport as a means to delivering their message of monetary importance. And while we're on the subject, I loved the virtual neon "Sox Appeal" billboard behind home plate Monday night. Why would I want my eye to divert to the plate when I now know that load of garbage is coming back later this summer?
That would never happen at Fenway…
It is what it is, of course. Fenway Park, for all the praise heaped upon it as an ancient jewel in a sea of cookie-cutter and retro stadiums, is in reality still more amusement park than ballyard of yore these days. That's fine to a certain extent. But when all the peripheral stuff gets in the way of enjoying a baseball game, it reaches the point of intrusion, the feeling of being taken advantage of by these corporations. All because you dared to just enjoy nine innings.
This is all part of the territory. If you want to enjoy a winner year-in, year-out, then you're going to have to endure those who also want to attach themselves to a winner. The Jordan's Furnitures, the NASCARs, the (ahem) "alternative" hats are all along for the ride. No problem. Plenty of room on board.
But when those same companies force you to listen to them while you're just trying to watch Josh Beckett paint the corners, with little-to-no commentary from the booth because the particulars are busy helping to shill Carl Edwards and Co., that's an issue. When you're sitting in your tight grandstand quarters listening to an "alternative" hat on the cell phone, asking what the score is, and producing his or her Red Sox Nation card to prove one's fandom, that's a problem. When you're embarrassed to take your kid to a game on the road for fear of the derision you're due to receive from the hometown fans because of the group of drunken f-bombing fans in your section doing their best to speak for all Red Sox fans, that's a concern.
Yes, Fenway is a happier place these days, but let's not fall for the folly that it was a depressing landscape prior to 2002. It was just different. Remember when it was a big deal that the team decided to mix in rock music with the organ? John Fogerty blared over the loudspeakers, and we debated its value.
Now, a Ford Fusion roams the warning track and we nary bat an eye.
We are reaching a saturation point here. Every night is an event, another opportunity for the Red Sox, NESN, and their revenue partners to sell us something else. I understand the need. But when it gets in the way of my enjoyment, that's when I have a problem. And let's be real here, this was not a good week as far as that is concerned. Not to get all "In my day…" on you, but things have gotten worse, not better.
Then again, I remember paying $3 for a seat to watch a baseball team that played in Montreal. I'm not quite sure how I can express that sentiment without sounding old.



This "Red Sox Nation" is not a nation, it is a cult, formed,
cultivated and developed to make even more money for the owners. I'm
all for capitalism and making money but at the price of alienating the
core and original fans? It has gone too far. I'm waiting for when each half of inning is sponsored by a different company...That will officially be the end for me.
I am a die-hard fan and have been since I was a kid, but I cannot take
the onslaught anymore. I will not step foot in Fenway, nor can I
stomach watching the games due to the sideshow that they have become
thanks Jerry Remy's antics, Jerry Remy night made me want to gag - I had to turn off the TV and get the box score the next morning because of it.
Many times I've wished that the Red Sox would return to being the cellar dwellers of the AL east just to get rid of all this insanity…Sad but true. I want baseball, not spoon-fed corporate crap that is a corporate promotion that is designed to look like a baseball game...
and you're point is......what exactly? That it was better when the teams and ownership were awful and dysfunctional.
As long as there are championships and competitve teams involved year after year I can deal with all the other nonsense. You seem to have a problem with Capitalism. This ownership group has invested extensively in the Red Sox. What they get in return is to squeeze every nickel they can from that investment. What's the issue? I just don't get it. Yoiu seem to like to complain for the sake of complaining.
I as well went to many a game at Stade Olympique and was always bemused by it. They had the t-shirt rocket guns, girls dancing in tight jeans on the scoreboard and Youppi being Youppi. Still most nights I had fun there.
I despise what Fenway has become. First of all with all the improvements it is still a place that can only hold 25,000 fans comfortably. Fenway has become a theme park.
I was recently in Chicago and went to games in both parks there. Wrigley is also a theme park and frankly in horrible shape as the Chicago Tribune has done little to improve the park. US Cellular Field is actually more enjoyable to simply watch a game.
However the bottom line is the Red Sox have now won 2 championships with a good chance for more. as long as they keep winning I guess I can put up with the pink hats.
Hit the nail on the head. I have had the pink hat conversation multiple times, and tried to explain it wasn't the new fans that bothered me, as much as the "You love Fenway, so we reserve the right to shovel as much bs down your throats" mentality of the new ownership.
I went to a game at Olympic Stadium about ten years ago and had fun. Took the Metro and everything. Montreal remains one of the most beautiful cities in the world to me ( yes nicer than Boston) and I have done some traveling. Sammy Sosa hit a home run pre-steroids days and all was right with the world. I want to sound old also...
I totally agree. It's out of hand. NASCAR mixed with baseball? Disgusting. J. Henry should be ashamed for creating this unneeded hoopla.
I certainly agree about being embarressed by Sox fans on the road...I was in Baltimore when Manny hit his 500 home run; the drunken ex-frat boys with their drunken ex-frat dads betting on the last out of each inning was obtuse and the potty mouthed nnot so young anymore ladies (drunk, of course) sitting with their 70ish mom, letting a string of f-bombs evacuate from their diarriah mouths was only matched by their suggestion I put ear-muffs on my 11 year old son to obscure their diatribes, which had nothing to do with baseball.....so many of the "nation" are confinced they are not having fun unless the are stupidly saturated with alcohol and ruining someone else's fun......sad but true...grow up.
How old are you? 100? Give me a break. This ownership has done nothing but put a great product on the field. Are the promotions over the top at times? Of course, but I will happily deal with them and I will continue to enjoy the product on the field.
Get over yourself.
Fenway was so green (with paint, not money) in the rebroadcast of Remy's first game in the booth. I understand the ads pay players. Still, Remy's very purpose has been reduced over the years to reading promos about 50% of the time. My least favorite is, "and now here's a non-sequitur about Covidien...," which doesn't even have a loose tie-in to "whenever the Sox record a save" or something. Terrible.
Don't act like you're just getting to this point now. You've written a similar piece a couple of times each year for the last three or so.
You can't have it both ways, you know. You can't praise the owners for maximizing value on the park and the team, which allows them to foot the bill for a consistent winner, and then complain about the ways they make that money.
And, once again, you're romanticizing the past. There were plenty of f-bombs resonating throughout the ballpark long before 2002. I've been ashamed of most Red Sox fans for years and it didn't start with pink hats (which are fairly innoccuous, in my opinion).
You don't have to buy anything other than your ticket to the game. Just sit back and enjoy whatever they've got going on. The game will be played and played well.
It was either this or building a bigger ballpark. I'll take this any day.
I agree with your sentiment somewhat, but at the same time this is the ownership group that got my Dad (who has always insisted he hates baseball) to call me at whatever crazy time of night game seven against the Yankees ended in 2004 with a tremble in his voice saying 'THEY DID IT'. If I have to put up with this cross promotion crap so be it, this team is a winner and after suffering for so long this is gravy time and I'm enjoying it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing this up. This stuff is BS. Just give us baseball, thank you very much. On another note, the Red Sox want to have it both ways regarding the environment. On the one hand, they show off their new solar hot water system, which I applaud. On the other hand, they promote a team for NASCAR, which is a heinous polluter. How people can derive entertainment from auto racing while the planet is dying is beyond me. How many gallons of fuel are burned when you combine what the race cars use and what people use to get to the race? Johnny Damon and the 2004 Red Sox many have been "idiots," but nothing comes close to the idiots who are NASCAR fans.
Hey, how about you suck it up and let Henry do whatever he damn well pleases. Afterall, how many rings do we have since 2004?
I can't argue with the points you make but they continue to put a winning product on the field year after year, have the 5th (?) highest pay role in baseball, yet have to pull in dollars playing the in smallest park in the majors. As much as all the shameless self promotion is annoying and takes away from the game.... I enjoy a watching the best team in baseball too much to complain.
I too am appalled at the choices being made for broadcast. A few weeks back, there were pre-gameceremonies to honor Jon Lester for his no-hitter and Manny Ramirez for hitting his 500th home run. NESN apparently could not find the time to squeeze these events into their pre- or post-game broadcasts.
Isn't it still supposed to be about baseball?
Go Rays! Lifelong Sox fan here who's getting more and more turned off by this corporation.
Henry and his boys have brought 2 CHAMPIONSHIPS to Boston. As long as they put a good product on the field who cares what he wants to do with pregame. We always need something to complain about I guess.
I couldn't have said it better myself. That's why i listen to the broadcast on the radio; don't get me wrong Remy and Orsillo are great, but i can't stand the promo guy's voice for NESN....i'd rather Listen to Joe Morgan than here that guys voice.
Thats probably the most on point piece I have read in a long long time, I couldnt agree more. Thank You for expressing that opinion.
I completely agree. Another thing that annoys me is the X Corporation "Play of the game" and the Y Corporation "Call to the bullpen" and the Z Corporation "Catch of the game" etc., etc. The Brave New World is here and our soma is consumerism. It's relentless but I agree that its intrusion on baseball is especially annoying.
Eric,
Well Said. As soon as that deal was announced. I knew we were going to be bombarded with NASCAR adds, interviews and special promotions. Even WEEI had a driver on yesterday afternoon. The hosts didnt even know what questions to ask him.
I love the success that comes with having one of the highest payrolls in the leage and the advertising money that needs to supplement ball park revenue. I can deal with the pink hats, the happy-to-be-there crowd, even commercials for Sox Appeal--but I dont need to see 11 shots of the Rousch Racing Team. Dont forget to pick up your Rousch Fenway Racing Card--it is the only way to prove you are a true fan of the Rousch Fenway Team.
I agree wholeheartedly. That foolish Jerry Remy Day was the worst yet. He was a no-one when he played here. He's even more of one now. Unfortunately, he doesn't get it. He really believes he's a celebrity. What is wrong with the people who listen to him? Half the time, I find myself muting the TV so I don't have to hear him. He's nauseating. The worst is when he's hawking scorecards. Who wants his autograph? The only autograph I'd want on the scorecard is of the person who threw the no-hitter, not the guy in the booth. Please, please NESN do something about him and his giggling. Because 10-year-olds hold up signs with his name on them to get on TV, does not mean that he is famous. Anyone worth their salt in baseball knowledge would be happy to see him go.
I couldn't agree with you more! I don't get a chance to get to Fenway Park since I don't live in the Boston area but I get force fed whatever NESN is promoting during home stands. I didn't mind Remy Day. I like Jerry Remy and think he is great for the NESN Broadcast. However, I am so sick of hearing about Sox Appeal. The one justice that is done for me is that Sox Appeal gets blacked out because I'm outside the Boston viewing Market (I get NESN via Sattelite television). But what does irk me is when NESN tries to cut the post game show early to air that piece of garbage. You are supposed to be watching baseball, not conducting a date at a baseball stadium. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! The ones on the date at Fenway Park look like a bunch of idiots.
Let me enjoy my baseball and my baseball team, the Red Sox. I don't really care about what you are trying to sell me.
Great stuff, Wilbur - the commodification of the game of baseball (and all professional sports) has been a growing problem over the past couple decades. It's understandable that ownership groups want to make a profit on their product (as well as recoup some of the money they shell out on things like player salaries, charitable enterprises and ballpark renovations), but there's a line that's been getting crossed over and over again due to the fact that the owning of a baseball team seems to have become a billion dollar endeavor. Does NESN really need to sell individual spots for trivia questions during their broadcasts to Afflac? Who cares if Amica is paying for a percentage of the air time in tonight's interleague matchup? It's a fine line and it seems in this day and age that those of us that just want to slump in the couch and watch the Sox game after a day of work or school will be forced to put up with an endless slew of advertisements looking to pique our interest in their products. All I know is that I'll draw the line when we start seeing patches on the hats and jerseys of players like they're Arena Footballers or something (come to think of it, didn't they wear Covidien patches on their jerseys when they were in Japan?).
Do you want them to field a good team Eric?
SUCK IT UP!!!!
And yet its still not as bad as most parks. No fire works, no endless scoreboard messages screaming "cheer" because the fans are too stupid to know what's happening, no crass between innings promotion.
If they want to fill the time before the game that's fine. Once that first pitch is thrown though, all I care about is the game.
Now if only we could do something about the wave. . . . (don't people realize that's a football thing). At the very least, don't start it in the second inning.
I could not agree more. And Remy's hocking all his business ventures at the expense of the game is not why I pay my cable bill. I want to discuss the game.
Quick thought for you, how do you make a living? Oh, thats right, because the Red Sox are popular and draw a sell out crowd to Fenway every game of the year. If you are looking for a no thrills, just baseball setting, my cousin plays T-ball for hingham, you should write about his thrilling games and see how much you will get paid. Good luck
Mr. WIlbur,
I could not agree with you more.
While new ownership has done a great job of letting the baseball operations people work with autonomy, and develop young talent instead of going the free agent/trade route, they have also turned a game at Fenway into a complete spectacle (as you so eloquently point out).
They have gone lowest common denominator in encouraging Kevin Millar-like behavior of the fan base every step of the way.
Thank you for being the first person at any or the major papers to bring such subject matter to light.
Boston is better than this...in every aspect... another example is WEEI, the most ignorant radio station in the country...Boston radio can be better, and the people will listen.
They always boast their ratings, but it is Boston...any sports talk station
Also, Jerry Remy, and Don Orsillo have to go.
The Boston sports teams, and media spend too much time listening to unintelligent comments from the masses.
Unlike them, i have to get back to work, but again thank you for such an article, and please keep pushing these great points.
best,
DS
I am a Red Sox fan, born and raised in Montreal. A true french canadian Red Sox fan. And I have to say I am quite upset at how the french are perceived by Mr. Wilbur in his article. What is he implying exactly by "the french" when referring to his moments at the Olympic Stadium? I find this generalization about the french disrespectful and therefore, I voice my displeasure. Why should it accepted to talk about the french like this? Had it been a people that constituted a larger percentage of the American population, I think apologies would have been requested. Maybe I am overreacting, and if so, I apologize for it. Maybe all these years of frustration as a misunderstood baseball fan in a city where hockey is religion has finally gotten to me...
Thanks, Eric, for giving ink to a problem that's been bothering me for a long time. I understand Mr. Henry needs to maximize revenue to have a winning ballclub, and so I tolerate signage on the Monster, the dozens of Dunkin Donuts signs behind Tito at the press conferences, etc. But when we come back from a commercial "break" to then have to listen to Orsillo or O'Brien joined by the guy from Sullivan Tire or whoever DURING THE GAME, this is where I draw the line and go from understanding fan to pissed off fan. Games are sold out so already I have to spend over $500 online just to get my wife and two kids and myself to one game this year and get pretty mediocre seats. I'm not complaining about that. What I don't want to see is what Eric is talking about-- interference of what should be play-by-play and/or color commentary with commercials. This goes beyond the saturation point and infringes heavily on the enjoyment of the game by the most informed baseball fan base in the U.S. It disrespects us-- and it needs to stop. If not, it's only a matter of time before this huge turnoff has us turning off Sox games.
Not only was this a great post about corporate foolishness, I learned something as well: Bespin has moons! To think I only knew about Cloud City.
You're a damned Renaissance Man.
wow, you think fenway back is bad? have you been over to the garden recently?
Thank you!! I couldn't agree more. I remember the sacred place (Fenway) as it was and sincerely wish it would come back. I don't care about NASCAR, or about Sox Appeal (pathetic). Just gimme the game, please
We all have our visions of what the baseball experience 'should' be. Obviously one element of Eric's dream is an absence all the commercialism- does that mean you pine for the ad free, crypt-like 'nothing but green' Fenway of the late Yawkey era? Where the only pre game options meant the filth of the old Cask & Flagon with its Bud only stench stained carpet, or that nasty cat on the bar of the Baseball Tavern? When the field seats were empty of Miss P. Hat, and in her place was the drunk and disorderly dad with his 7 year old kid he was 'looking after' for the weekend? Where we paid not to see the world champions but a few washed up, slow as molasses, injury riddled but extremely overpaid free agents finish next to last in the standings? I was at the game last night and I believe the crowd paid just as much attention to the pre game ceremonies as they do every night- which is to say not much. If you don't like it Eric, you should do the same. There is a direct correlation between all the 'distractions' and the quality of the product on the field. Learn to deal with it as I dealt with the negatives of the past..
Stop being a little bitch who care's, before fenway look like a dump I took 5 years ago and yoru crying a about a little nscar, boo hoo, baseball is boring as it is, by the 6 inning all there taking baout was he rem dawg i took a dump the other day and felt good, boo hoo I could careless.
I agree with you 100%. The only problem is that it took you 3 years to realize it. It started in 2006 and has only gotten worse in 2007 and 2008.
Stick to the Patriots and the Celtics. The Red Sox are just selling out. Then again, I'm not the official commenter of the Boston Red Sox so who am I to talk?
Very well written entry, I must say. And I completely agree. Its come to a point where watching the game on TV is almost untolerable, but listening to it on the radio is getting just as bad (frankly, I don't care about the Giant Glass Giant Part of the Order, the On Deck with Azek Trimboards Inning, or the latest big company basing their charitable contributions on a foolish statistic).
Great Article.....I went to my one and only game of the season last night with my Dad simply because EVERYTHING is too expensive. Our view of the game was blocked literally every 20 seconds by different vendors throughout the entire game.
It would be nice if the game became more than 50% of the overall circus atmosphere. Thanks for putting this is perspective!
Let's face it - if it wasn't for the Red Sox, no one would watch NESN. They have to try to keep the viewers sucked in long after the last pitch. But it's just plain ignorance throwing something like "Sox Appeal" at us. Obviously that's geared toward the "alternative hat"-wearing crowd. And when they broadcast an early season Sox game over a Bruins playoff game, you know where their priorities are.
What you have to remember is that the Red Sox organization does a small fraction of the number of giveaways, theme nights, and other gimmicky junk you find at almost every other ballpark in America. And anyway, despite the crass commercialism and tenuous cross-promotions, we still have Fenway. Not the Citizens Bank Park, or Comcast Field. FENWAY Park. Do you know how rare it is nowadays to have even that? The Red Sox have an official cheese doodle and there are Pepsi commercials at the movie theater; it's irritating, it's unnatural, and it's the way the world works in the 21st century.
Eric,
You obviously weren't at the game last night, as they gave FREE $110 Tickets to the NASCAR Race at Loudon to all RSN Members.
Do yourself a favor and check some of your facts before you somehow compare an old, dilapidated Olympic Stadium to Fenway. Who do you think pays for Lugo's $9m salary?
What else would you expect from a network that incorprates a one-hour pre- and post-game show into its broadcast every day! Clearly they don't need all that time to cover the baseball news. Oh, I forgot the extra half-hour on Mondays and home game Fridays.
Save yourself the anxiety and do like the rest of us - skip all those minutes of hype and ads and just watch the game, flipping around to one of the other 200 channels when you need a break.
AMEN!!!!!
I have been totally disgusted with the in game promotions and views of the broadcast booth instead if the field. Tell me where I can register more complaints to get through to the NESN nuckelheads.
Tom
Amen! I was watching the Sox on ESPN2 last night and even on that station there was a half-inning of Roush Racing. I, of course, turned off the sound. I just want to watch the game and hear the commentary about the action on the field. All the rest of the non-baseball stuff is distracting to me and quite unnecessary.
In that vein, I was on the highway in CT listening _ or wanting to listen _ to how Wake was fooling batter after batter for the Diamondbacks when the talk turned to some Volvo dealer pitching special limited-edition red cars for Sox fans. This went on endlessly, during game time not between innings. I switched to the Yankees game, where at least the commentary was about the play on the field!
As you say, the price of being winners.
Eric, your words ring so true. The Sox Brass will tell us that if it weren't for the corporate tie-ins, we'd be paying twice the going rate for tickets.
I remember only 10 short years ago being able to grab a seat in the right field bleachers on a regular basis...for nothing, nada...in the 8th inning after my work shift at the Pru. Unfortunately those days are gone, at least until the Sox hit the skids and the sell-outs come to an end.
Until then, we're privy to the best of what baseball has to offer...at a price. I'm a Sox fan for life, but I won't be able to take my son or daughter to many games. I guess Pawtucket will just have to do (which ain't a half-bad place to go).
To John Henry:
NASCAR SUCKS! We dont care about your dumb racing team, stop shoving it down our throats. We are baseball fans, not racing fans. We arent hicks.
It does seem that NESN is going overboard on everything but what most of us want. BASEBALL & RED SOX News!!!!!
Great piece Eric.
Let us not forget that the Sox brass is force-feeding us this corporate stew while charging some seriously steep prices.... that is if you are lucky enough to get your tickets straight from the Sox box office. If not, you are probably taking out an extra mortgage to buy a couple tickets from an 'Official Ticket Source of the Boston Red Sox'.
100% percent correct. I found myself yelling at the TV last night when some guy in a NASCAR baseball jersey was rambling with men on 1st and 3rd with 1 or 2 outs and zero game commentary.
Damn that was well said....enough is enough. Thank you Mr Henry, Werner, and Lucchino for what you did for the BASEBALL TEAM but spare us your other money making ventures, we could care less!
Amen!! Thank you for writing this Eric, it is what I've been thinking for the last few years. It is a freaking circus at Fenway now - sideshow after sideshow.... I feel like I am at a Single A game when I am at the Fens.
Eric, You said it. I get so bombarded with those ads that I only remember how much I hate them after a game. Will never buy anything that feels the need to annoy me too much while I try to enjoy something as simple as a baseball game. Ad people forget that too much exposure creates an enmity with their product that hurts sales.
well said
AMEN
BOY, do I agree with you! I've been a Red Sox fan my whole life and 2004 was a joyous moment for me (like everyone else in this area). 2007 told us we had really turned the corner; great stuff. I'm delighted we now have an organization that's smart about baseball and a team full of talent with the added pleasure of watching our own farm-system kids make their way to the majors and do well. There's no doubt it's a great time to be a Red Sox fan.
HOWEVER, if the try to sell me one more lame thing while I'm trying to watch a baseball game (from NASCAR to the phony-baloney "Red Sox Nation," I'll throw up. I've always liked Remy, but now that he spends most of his time hawking something -- for himself or the Red Sox -- it's getting REALLY old.
Don't they understand they are ruining the "product"? There was a period when they were first starting to transform the organization that they needed to add resources, but now they've started to reduce the payroll (while improving the product) and this should continue. It's time to start cutting back on their endless promotions before they find they've hollowed out "Red Sox nation" and only have the bandwagon folks left. If that happens, they'll see they have only a house of cards.
Elizabeth in Portsmouth, RI
well said sir.
I'd buy you a beer, but at $7.50 per 12oz, its a little beyond my means.
I didn't have too much of an issue with Jery Remy day since at least he has a direct connection with Red Sox baseball, although it would have been nice if they could have found a little more time to pay attention to the game rather than the parade of VIPs in the booth.
As for some of the other promotional stuff; I just deal with it. If it gets too much to take when the game is on NESN, maybe I'll do the same thing I do now when it is on FOX: turn off the sound and turn on WEEI for the play by play and commentary.
It seems like every channel is guilty from time to time of having people visiting in the booth who have nothing to do with the game, not just NESN. The only time I ever enjoyed it was I think last year during a national broadcast (may have been during the All-Star game, I can't remember), when Jackie Robinson's widow was there. I can remember nothing about the game but I can remember her stories. I could have listened to her all night.
My son and I both agree the Red Sox are turning into the Yankees in the way they splash money for a Japanese shooting star, auction off the Monster seats and created the nauseating 'Nation' thing. I don't need a card to know I'm a fan, my grubby old hat and the remarks I get from Yankee fans at Dunn Tire Park when I go to see the Pawtucket boys is enough. We actually don't care if the Sox win again for a while...as long as the Yankees don't make it, I'd like to see the Cubs or the Pirates win the series.
Dear Mr. Wilbur,
Have you taken a look at the Boston Red Sox Ownership/Cheerleader Departme...... err, Boston.com the past couple of years?
"Celtics win NBA Championship - How Does this Affect The Red Sox?"
"Patriots in SB Tomorrow Looking for Perfect Season - Will Manny Ramirez' Housekeeper be Rooting for the Giants?"
"Deval Patrick Becomes First African American Governor in Massachusetts History - Kevin Cash Once Knew Someone Named Deval"
'The fault, dear Eric, lies not in the stars, but.........."
Amen, amen, amen! Couldn't have said it better myself. I have been a fan for 41 years and never, ever will pay for a membership to prove it or wear a pink hat!
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE RIGHT. BETWEEN THE PINK HATS, WHO DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT THE GAME, THE CORPORATE YAHOOS WHO THINK THEY SH.. ICECREAM AND THE REDSOX THEMSELVES WHO PROMOTE, OVER PROMOTE AND PROMOTE AGAIN SOME DUMBASS THING I COULD NOT CARE TO GO TO A GAME. BACK WHEN I WOULD GO 10 -15 GAMES A YEAR. NOT NOW. NOT THAT I COULD AFFORD IT.
Eric, I couldn't agree with you more! You are right on about everything being overexposed, to the point of what I call "ad nauseum of ads."
Watching a game on NESN has increasingly gotten worse. Last week during a Sox/Phillies game, there was a close play at 2nd base, but rather than showing the replay of it, NESN diverted the viewer attention to "try the new breakfast sandwiches at Dunkin' Donuts" promotion. A few minutes later, after another play worthy of commentary or at least replay, they again had Don and Jerry promoting another product/sponsor.
It has reached a point where we can now say "I was watching a commercial when a Red Sox game came on"
NASCAR has no buisness being advertised at the ballpark. A bunch of people taking right turns at high speed? Doesn't make sense to me. I've been to three races and still don't see the appeal except for the beer.
I could not agree more! It is almost painful to watch the NESN broadcasts of the games anymore! Last night's "event" seemed to go over like the proverbial "lead balloon" with the crowd! Zzzzzzzzz.
As for Remy Day, it was fun - for about 2 minutes.....but having to endure what seemed like countless on-field introductions and video highlights during the pre-game ceremony plus the endless array of broadcast booth moments with celebrities that took place throughout the game (far worse than the 1-celebrity-visit-per-game that now takes place on the "other" station during Monday Night Football) was absolute overkill!
Thank you Eric. You have validated my reasons for not attending a Red Sox game since 2001.
Most of these "Red Sox Nation" numbskulls pay $200 for a seat a Fenway not to watch the game, but to tell everyone they know that they WENT to Fenway.
What is this...f**king L.A?
I pray for the Sox to tumble into mediocity and get dropped by John (I know how to buy a title) Henry and Co. faster than Britney Spears knocking down tequila shots.
Maybe then, the "pink hat" crowd will move onto the next trendy bit of nothingness and REAL baseball fans will be able to return to Fenway again....and maybe even take their families too.
Wow, watching a ball game at Fenway with my kids....what a concept.
You, my friend.. are so right.
you obviously use the thesaurus option when writing your articles. You are a wanna-be Bill Simmons. Problem is that the sports guy doesn't need to sound like a harvard grad to write well.
EW:My apologies for being literate. And isn't calling someone a wanna-be Bill Simmons kind of lame at this point? Anyone who touches finger to keyboard gets automatically labeled a poor man's Simmons. Get over it.
Best blog entry I've read on this site in years. Thanks for speaking the cold hard truth, Eric.
unfortunately your comments are not limited to Fenway park, but extend to the American society as whole which has basically sold itself out for a cell phone and text messaging. Geoff Goodwin, Bangor Maine
I get the Sox through the MLB Extra Innings package here in Virginia, and I used to enjoy it when it the game was a NESN feed. But lately I have become extremely annoyed by the endless selling. Every time Remy breaks into one of those loud sales pitches between batters I have to turn down the volume. Luckily the Extra Innings package cuts out all of the pre and post game promotions.
Good for you Eric. Love the management, but they've got to keep the excesses under control. Thought Dr. Charles leaving would help, but it's even worse now.
That's why I abandoned the "big leagues" for the minors nearly twenty years ago. You could sit in Pittsfield, in Burlington, in New Britain and Norwich, still see a baseball game, and actually afford it. If I had a car right now, I'd be seeing the Rox play.
That's why I abandoned the "big leagues" for the minors nearly twenty years ago. You could sit in Pittsfield, in Burlington, in New Britain and Norwich, still see a baseball game, and actually afford it. If I had a car right now, I'd be seeing the Rox play.
Thanks Eric, you really nailed the issue with this article. I chalk some of this up to the "price of success." But they clearly go too far and in my view it's embarrassing. The game should always come first. But these guys feel the need to inject extra entertainment value into it, while hocking hot dogs, raffles, membershipo cards and clumps of dirt.
I gotta say, I'm back and forth with you on this one. [Side note to MR. Wilbur, I went to/ski bummed at UVM & if you just crossed the border in your college days to go to Montreal, I'd have to say you went to UVM, St. Mike's, or maybe Champlain College, but anywho...].
Here's the deal for baseball purists: the histroy of baseball is mostly swaddled in over the top promotions and advertisements. Both in the interest of the ownership and for advertisers (which is the true contrast of your Montreal car promo - and advertiser, and the Sox promo - which is self-promotion really). Only in our lifetimes (read 30-40 yr olds) have stadiums & promotions been so 'clean' (although, the dico demolition night may argue that point).
[Not directly related, but the only reason roger Hornsby's card is so valuable is that he stopped production because it was issued by a tobacco company].
Look at minor league parks now -- speaking of Nascar, look at the signage all over the outfield... that used to be in MLB too. Signage everywhere is not new. Ellsbury hocks Owater - Teddy Ballgame pitched Moxie.
Hey, I'm just not willing to get on a gripe train about 'how commercial' we are. as long as no one is being sacrificed on any altars in the name of advertisers, the price of success is commercial viability.
We can now watch every single game on TV in high-definition. I'll take it.
I couldn't have said it better!
fantastic column, eric. starting with those awful gimmicks known as the monster seats this ownership has relentlessly tried to sell the red sox tradition and fenway's soul for more and more money. From the vulgar gimmicks like neil diamond on the big screen to nascar drivers on the field and absurd ticket prices and concession prices, it only gets worse every year as more saps buy into it and real red sox fans become more alienated and priced out of enjoying their team at fenway. I don't care if the red sox have a high payroll, Henry, Luchino, and co are all millionaires many times over, and only purchased the red sox in order to make even more money, and their profits are soaring considering all the money that nesn and merchandising brings in. It pains me to see what the red sox have become, and often i find myself shaking my head wondering what ever happened to the team's soul.
Man, take it easy. Just because you don't like Nascar doesn't mean no one does.
Eric, when did you get so cynical? Honestly, I've been reading regularly for a few years now and I can't think of the last time you wrote incitefully about the game. Your pieces used to give incite that most other sources didn't. Now all I see is anger-filled rants.
Right on, Eric. Anyone who cares about NASCAR is bad enough, but anyone who cares about it enough to cut away from a baseball game needs to be relocated to North Carolina for rehab. As for the pink hats, Nation membership cards, and Sox Appeal, please pass the barf bags.
Get over it. This is what professional sports has become. It's not about the so-called "true fans" as you might claim to be. It's all about marketing and making money. Why do you think athletes are paid so much? Because sporting giants like the Red Sox take in so many sponsorship dollars. If it bothers you to see this and here it, turn off the tv and listen to the radio.
Eric, go away or grow up and be happy that we have ownership who puts effort into being financially successful while putting winning teams on the field. This is so lame that one would suspect that CHB had penned it.
The problem, and this isn't a revelation to anyone, is the ticket prices. I used to spend all of my summers coming up from NJ to my Aunt's house on the Cape. My Uncle would take me to 10-15 games over the summer, with tickets he bought from a coworker. We'd often see a lot of the same people at every game because their tickets were in our section. Now when I go to Fenway, because the average fan can't afford to go to a bunch of games, every game is an event. Forget the NASCAR, Remy day, Alternative hats(although I wore won for the Celtics last Friday, and still stand by my statement that the Sox wear green, so green is the only other hat you can wear), most of these fans savor every moment at the ballpark and really forget the game. How else can you describe the crown getting as excited as they do for "Sweet Caroline" when the team is losing 6-1? It's their only time at the ballpark because taking the family of four to sit in half decent seats is easily a $500 trip. When you only get to go once, the game almost becomes secondary.
You hit the nail right on the head. Fenway's a great experience, but enough is enough.
THANK YOU!!!! I think you speak for millions of true Red Sox fans who are sick to death of the band wagon, pink hatters, and beautiful people who only attend games because the Red Sox are "in."
You could not say it any better.I live outside of Richmond Va and actually stopped wearing my Red Sox hat because I was so tired of "fans" questioning my motives if I was a real fan or from New England(which I am)but that's not the issue.It's about baseball not arm candy in pink hats.But I guess it is the price you pay.I don't remember people acting like the sky was falling after a loss,even in 1986.The only thing I remember was the Celtics.I guess they are next.God I hope the bruins keep loosing!
I agree. We don't care about NASCAR (even the 2nd rate Rousch team).
Lets try to get hits when the bases are loaded by getting back to basic baseball.
This is the single greatest thing you have ever written Eric. EVER.
I am at this point, embarrassed to be associated with this team and apalled by the lack of respect this ownership group displays for both the dignity of the franchise (we have none left; last night's NASCAR debacle was the final stake in the heart of it), and the intelligence of the fans (Sox Appeal, shoving NASCAR and every other product under the sun down our throats, talking about Red Sox Nation and it's citizens as if it issues passports, etc. etc.).
I am officially done. Yes, we have two championships, but the franchise I loved has been whored out and destroyed by the marketers. I sometimes honestly wonder if those championships were worth the price to our collective dignity.
i agree, we do not need remdaug anymore
Well said! The Kid PA announcer needs to go,along with all the silly stuff lets get back to baseball thats what made it fun!!! This stuff may fly in tampa bay but has no place in the hub
Someone finally said what we have felt for years now (at least since 2005). The pink hat wearing, cell phone yapping, getting up to cross an entire row of seats during the inning "fan" has now taken full strangle hold over Fenway. I guess they all think that for the price of their scalped tickets they can party and act like they do at home during the game. Have another $8 beer.
The show you so well describe is because the current fan base accepts it.
WE DO NOT!
Thanks for speaking out.
You're not old unless you remember $2.75 bleacher seats at Fenway.
BRAVO Mr Wilbur... you said what many true Red Sox fans (no card needed here) have been feeling for quite a while now. I travel to Tampa and Baltimore regularly for away games and it is embarrassing as hell to be lumped in and associated with the loudmouth drunken Sox fan who thinks based on 2 championships in 4 years he has the right to bark at the moon. For God's sake grow up before Red Sox fans become the scourge of the league... like Yankee fans!
Eric. I agree the Sox are turning Fenway into a side show.
Fenway should be baseball. I agree the new owners have done a wonderfull
job in improving Fenway to a great ballpark. But trying to cram auto racing
down the fans troat is to much. The new owners should realize baseball fans
are not auto racing fans. If you ask the average sox fan if he or she ever went
to a auto race track, I bet 90 per cent would say no.
Thanks for posting this. I was telling my wife last night as we watched the game how sick I'm getting of all this Red Sox branding. I still believe the Red Sox are an institution, but this ownership group seems to think that they have carte blanche in their business dealing because they are sitting on two championships in four years. Fans need to speak up like you have here today.
In reference to another story on boston.com, this is EXACTLY why we hate the pink hats. They symbolize the larger problem -- we are becoming the Yankees.
Yep, oh yeah, Hollywood has taken over Fenway (among most other sport venues) It's too bad that you can't just play baseball/ football / hockey / hoop anymore, I guess there is not enough money in that...It's all the "sports" now, er, I mean "entertainment product on the field" , there has to be lights dancing, bikini's music, fireworks...every regular season game has to now incorprate the hype of a super bowl and we keep watching it! Sad indeed.
Amen brother! Keep preaching the word! It's getting to be tooooo much.
Sounds exactly right to me. I live in Texas now and used to follow the Sox through DirecTV's MLB package, but the endless cross-promotionalism and inanities of Jerry Remy and Don Orsillo induced me to cancel that package and simply follow the progress of the Sox online. I also used to manage to get tickets and make the pilgrimage to Fenway once or twice a year every year, but have stopped doing that the last couple of years for the same reasons.
I had to turn the game off on Remy night with inning after inning of them photographing old-timers talking in the booth. They didn't even show most of the pitches in several innings. If they made a TV show of that circle j*** no-one would watch.. As you watch the away games you realize no other teams use their coverage of the game to show other TV show during the innings. When I turned off the game I watched it on Gameday on MLB.com for a few innings. Around the 8th they started showing the game again.
You are absolutely right. I couldn't believe Don & Jerry had to interview those race car drivers while the Red Sox were up to bat and had men on base (I forget the inning). If they are going to interview someone in the booth, they should at least keep the camera pointed toward the field. The constant promotion definitely takes away from the enjoyment of watching the game. It's sickening.
EW-
I think you are being a little tough on the guys. I went to the game on Tuesday for Remy Night and we enjoyed watching the pre-game festivities. We all had a good laugh when they played some of the NESN bloopers from years past on the Jumbotron. In my opinion missing a bit of pre game is a small price to pay to honor a man who has dedicated most of his adult life to this franchise through good times and bad. As far as Roush Fenway, sure it might have been a bit of a shameless production but I think most fans understand and accept that Henry and the Brain Trust need engage in revenue generating partnerships like this in order to put a World Series contender on the field year after year. I can deal with a few Dunkies commercials and Carl Edwards as long as we keep getting pennants and rings.
Sincerely – JB
Eric Wilbur, you speak for the majority of Red Sox fans.
None of us could have said it better. I totally agree with every single thing you said.
Hopefully, Red Sox brass will get the message that enough is enough.
Jerry Remy is supposed to be an analyst, not a shill for millions of dollars in revunue when all is said and done.
High definition is great but all the commercials in between pitches is getting to be too much.
I could go on and on but we both know nothing is going to change.
Nice try, anyway. The gool old Red Sox baseball telecasts are just a memory.
Keep up the good work. You are now our official spokesman.
Please run for president of Red Sox Nation next year!
I think you agree with my opinion but I want to say it anyway. I really don't like the huge Gulf sign beside the Monster nor do I like the Mass Lottery sign in Center field or any of the other huge obnoxious signs that adorn the lovely Fenway Green of our great park. But our park is still the BEST and it sure beats the heck off that dump in the Bronx. We as Red Sox fans have to understand that Fenway is smaller than a lot of stadiums and we have one of the highest payrolls. If me becoming a card holding member of Red Sox nation will help pay for a tank of gas for Youk to get to the ball park I will gladly do it. Yes sports athletes are over payed but they bring a lot of pleasure to me and my family. We live in Memphis, Tennessee and watch the Red Sox every night on the Extra Innings package by Comcast Cable. And the Red Sox brought my family close together and gave us alot of pride when they won it all.
Right on Eric!!!!! I have an eight year old boy, it's like going to Disney, once your in you start to bleed major cash. Red Sox nation is bordering on the absurd.
The game is a sideshow now. NESN is shameless indeed, nothing like the pre-game show brought to you by a ticket broker(scalper) charging 1000% mark up for the underprivileged unable to afford season tickets never mind a single game.
I couldn't agree more. I don't want to sound like an old crank either, but it seems like there's NEVER an inning in which Remy and Orsillo are just calling the game. I can't stand trying to watch baseball while an endless parade of guests visits the booth. It's ridiculous. I'd rather listen to the radio. On the other hand, there was a NASCAR driver being interviewed yesterday on the radio as well. ENOUGH already.
MORE BASEBALL, LESS P.R.!!!
THANK YOU. Doesn't Remy get enough face time calling the games, having numerous commercials, and selling every damn thing he gets his hands on? Does "the president" (ugh) really need a 40 minute pregame ceremony? No, every night is Jerry Remy night on NESN, and it's not like I don't enjoy his commentary but really that's all I want from Remy, baseball commentating and to correct Orsillo when he gets something wrong. As for the racing bit, I know racing is popular in this country these days, for the life of me I can't understand why, but I understand it. However, again we don't need to have a ceremony before the game and even if you insist on having one we don't need to show them on camera after every pitch and we don't need an interview with them in the booth. Just show the damn game.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's gotten to the point where these two Sox fans don't even bother to listen to the gawdawful blathering issuing from NESN's pathetic team of shillsters....I can't count the number of times I've screamed at the TV, "FORGET (fill in name of corporate sponsor here) TELL ME WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN THE (fill in appropriate expletive here)GAME!!!!!"
If they're not selling, they're just blathering...I really don't give a rusty hoot about how hard it is to get to the ballpark in Philly and park, TELL ME WHAT JUST HAPPENED WITH LOWELL'S AT BAT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
I want announcers, not "personalities" or used car salesmen.
So now we turn on the television, hit the mute button (that button was probably invented by some frustrated MIT grad who was sick of Remdog and Co.) and listen to the radio instead.
Hey, it's always a half-play ahead of TV (why? why? it's the same game!) AND it's actually semi-oriented toward explaining the game.
Most of the time.
In short, I couldn't agree with you more. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Amen, brother. The worst part of it all: it just doesn't seem that very many people care. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.
Right on the money, I can't agree more. I honestly feel bad because poor Eric Wilbur will soon be out of a job, but I agree totally. I was also very annoyed when they spent at least it seemed like 5 minutes DURING THE GAME interviewing these NASCAR hacks whom I honestly don't give a hoot about. No offense to NASCAR or racing fans in general, if the opposite were true (5 minute Big Papi Red Sox interview during the race) I'm sure that sentiment would also be felt. This ownership, with all the great things they've done and in winning the 2 titles, in my opinion is losing that with the over the top marketing and exploitation they've done in the fandom (I'm looking at you, Red Sox nation useless memberships!).
Perfect! I couldn't agree with you more. The Roush/Nascar debacle nearly put me over the edge.
Amen, man. Baseball should always stay the focus, even when the necessary advertising has it's place. But can we keep our Green Monster green, our beer cold, and our fans knowledgeable and passionate?
That is the true mark of a championship team and championship city.
They don't have to force feed me. I love them both!
I was wishing I was there last night. 800HP at Fenway must of sounded good
amen to you brother. like many "old" red sox fans i am sick to death of remy's self promotions and those hideous in booth interviews where everyone concerned seems so stiff and are trying , oh so hard, to be funny.
one evening , one "guest" blathered his way right through a critical sox double play without the slightest reference to the ongoing play. the continuous public service announcements, the constant ads , the wave, the 31/2 hour games, the pre-game show, the post game show, terry's take, the remy report, that silly sox appeal, john henry's booth, on and on and on and on.
baseball has been taken over by the money grabbers both on and off the field. outrageous ticket prices, watered down beer, poles, poles everywhere.$3.50, water--can you imagine that?
I couldn't agree more. Watching the totally Plastic Sox announcers blather about NASCAR while guys like Youkilis are growing ulcers because Bill James just might find numbers justifying their being traded to K.C. is just too much. At least do the theactrics a little better. Really, Remy & Orsillo standing up there like Breshnev avatars! Too, too much.
Right on ! Most of us want to see baseball and the "other stuff" is creeping in and getting absurd. I love Don and Rem Dawg but their incessant chattering about Sox Appeal is getting nauseus.
great article....i'm in tampa bay and i see this dog and pony show every time i'm at a game down here...i thought that it would be safe when i go back up to fenway to see a game. apparently i need a red sox nation card just for admission. also, i cant forget to get my girlfriend a pink redsox hat and eat a remdawg. how about just enjoying a game without corporate america trying to sell me NASCAR shirts and a wally the green monster shirt?
In total agreement, not to mention the constant self-promoting drivel out of the mouth of a 60s-70s era second baseman, turned mediocre analyst, who can't hold a candle to most other self-respecting analysts!