Dungy on Belichick

Boo Hoo. BB is frosty with me. He doesn't shake my hand and smile and say nice things about my team when we lose. He resents my stupid negative spygate comments and holds it against me and my Colts. Especially now because we have to come to NE for the playoffs in January in the cold weather and snow. He is going to be a real meanie and he is going to hurt my players and go to his 4th Super Bowl. It's so unfair, and I'm going to go home and cry now! Sniff Sniff!

Dungy should stick to coaching the Colts instead of mouthing off about something of which he has no first-hand knowledge. I've never heard BB tell any other franchise what it should do or have done in any situation. This should provide some great bulletin board material for the playoffs.

We look forward to greeting your team at Gillette in January, Tony, and providing you with another frosty handshake as you go home in disappointment! Belichick still can't stand Tom Jackson from ESPN when Jackson said the Patriots 'hate Belichick' for letting Lawyer Malloy go years ago... Belichick holds a grudge and I have NO problem with that... so every time we beat you, Tony, expect the same 'frosty' handshake. Peter King stated 3-10 teams videotaped from the sidelines... if Dungy is so high and mighty and thinks it's so unfortunate, why doesn't he ask the league to investigate other teams who practiced the same scouting? I guess his morals don't go that far...

What kind of weasel words were those? Dungy's trying to taint the Pats obliquely by attributing questions to others as in "it just lets people say." He doesn't have the balls to come out and say it himself.

Wahhhhhh ... I'm Tony Dungy and think I'm better than everyone else because we've NEVER cheated in any way shape or form! Riiiiiight. Bring it on, TD, because Bill and the boys are going to hand you your heads in January. Colts don't scare me in the least. They're not blowing out bad teams they way they should be.

Let's face it...Coach Bellicose and Pats just aren't that warm and fuzzy this year. Heck...Our-Man-of-the-Hood has never been warm and fuzzy...at least in public. But I too am sick and tired of all the hypocracy. If Tony Dungy is such a paragon of virtue why doesn't he give back his superbowl ring! Its true that the Pats should never have coughed up the AFC championship last year, but is equally true the the Colts would never have won without some dodgey officiating in the last quarter. The "League's" desire to see the Colts succeed at any cost was even more blatantly overt in this year's meeting in Indianapolis. The Colts would NEVER have even been in that game without all the one-sided interference calls. Dungy should have the courage of his virtues and just admit that Colts need 18 men on the field when they play the Patriots.

I was glad to see him get the same handshake he got after the AFC game. Why did'nt Payton hunt down Bill after this game? Maybe there the sore losers! But this did'nt make a story did it. If you can stomach a colts game when THE BEST TEAM in football is'nt playing you'll see more of these calls. Ask Jack DelRio? I also see the calls starting to favor Dallas now. Did you see what happen to Green Bay?I think someone wants to see us beat even if it means CHEATING! And by cheating I don't mean filming from the field instead of a booth.

God forbid somebody states their opinion on something relative to their profession. Tony Dungy has every right to feel this way. I applaud him for stating how he felt, and not just dancing around the question. If anybody has a problem with what he said they should grow up and learn to respect Dungy’s opinion on the matter. I’m not saying what Dungy said was right or wrong, but the fact is Dungy’s opinion on Spygate is a little more pertinent considering he actually coaches in the league. You don’t have to agree with him, but that doesn’t mean you should attack him for what he said. After all THE PATRIOTS DID CHEAT, there is no denying it. Dungy just stated that it is a black mark on the league he works in. If you have a problem with what Dungy said, you should have more of a problem with the Patriots cheating.

Costas (assuming he interviewed Dungy in that exchange) wimped out. The REAL
question that he should have asked Good Christian Dungy was: DO YOU STILL STAND BY YOUR COMPARISON OF BILL BELACHICK TO BARRY BONDS?

And I quote from Sports Illustrated:

Tony Dungy said fellow head coach Bill Belichick could be viewed like Barry Bonds after Belichick and his New England Patriots were fined for using a video camera to spy on opposing coaches.

"We seem to have tarnished Barry Bonds," the Colts coach said after practice on Friday. "We've pointed out that, even though he's a great player and he's hit a lot of home runs, because of what some people that work around him have done, it seems to have tarnished him in the court of public opinion. We'll see."

Come on, Costas, grow a pair and ask the hard questions!

Does anybody really believe that Belichick invented "videoing" the opposition's signal calling? I actually have great admiration for Dungy, but he can't genuinely believe that the Patriots are the only information gatherers. It still puzzles me that he has made this such an issue.

People that talk trash about other teams are usually people from cities that have teams that couldn´t make the playoffs even if they were allowed to cheat, like AZ for example. Teams rutinely try to steal other teams signals every week, grow up. If you think the only reason why the pat´s are 11-0 is because of cheating get your medication increased. What a bunch of crybaby sore losers. Pathetic!

I really cannot believe that this is still news. Have we not heard enough of people's opinions on this matter already? Whether it be Tony Dungy or anyone else for that matter, let's move on. "Spygate" was a stupid mistake, and the Pats admitted so much. They have paid the price in terms of league retribution, and the damage to their image and pride. It is time to move on people...

Oh yes, can you believe how Pedro threw Don Zimmer to the ground...? The nerve.

What about the Colts pumping in noise when the other team is trying to run a play? They were caught on national television, did they get in any trouble? Of course not, they are "Americas' Team". Dungy cheats too, they were pumping in extra noise when the Pats tried to run a play. Justice was served, the PATS won!!!!.

Hey Nick in AZ,
Please explain how the Patriots cheated. Can you even explain how? If so, I would love to hear your explanation.

Now, here are some facts, lest you and everone else forget:

-The Patriots were not fined for cheating, they were fined for the placement of a camera where the NFL rules said it shouldn't be located. The NFL repeatedly warned ALL teams against the placement of cameras on the sidelines. The Patriots did it anyway. So yes, shame on them for that.

-The Patriots had "1" camera confiscated 8 minutes into the 1st quarter of the first game of the season. They never saw then or afterwards what was on that video, let alone study its contents and apply it to that game or any other game.

-They have soundly beaten every team they have faced so far.

Now, go google Jimmy Johnson and camera's. Find his interview on a NY sports talk show and listen to it. Jimmy Johnson used to video tape the opposing teams coaches. He stopped doing it because he didn't feel there was enough benifit in continuing to do so AND he said the best person in stealing signs is one of the coaches on the Colts team.

As for "stealing signs", some might call it "unsportsmanlike" or maybe "unethical", but it is not illegal, it is just good intelligence. Besides, if another team is going to tell you (unwillingly because they were careless of their communications) what they are going to do next and you counter them, where is the cheating? I say, shame on them for not protecting their next move.

And one more thing, if trying to decipher the opponents signals wasn't part of the game, then why does almost every coach cover his mouth when he speaks? I will tell you why, because they are concerned someone might be reading their lips and getting the next play.

Bottom line, you and everyone else can dislike the Patriots and Bill Belichick. But Bob Kraft developed the Patriots franchise to WIN. In doing so, he hired the right people (BB and Pioli) who have over the years put together one of the greatest teams ever. The Patriots organization is a model franchise and the team, well, history will decide.
You and everyone else are just jealous. Pound sand.
Go Patriots!
Cheers mate.

To Joe Mama, in order for the AFC Championship to be played in NE, does'nt that mean the partiots have to win. Sorry, pal, they are not that good and their fluke season is slowly coming to an end, the Pats, will not.. I repeat will not make the AFC Championship game... Undefeated DOLPHINS, best team ever without a doubt...

Ley´s stop this whining. The pats may not go undefeated but it won´t be because of cheating. They beat my team like a drum. I am not a pats fan. I am from a different city and my loyalties lie elsewhere but lets be realistic this is not some pop-warner football league or some other childs game. This is the NFL. When people complain about running up the score just look at college scores, Is there any mercy? These pro athletes get paid mucho dollars to do thier job whether on offense or defense if they can´t do thier job they shouldn´t complain. They do all kinds of dances just because they make a play that they are paid very well to make? It is time to get off the I hate the pats bandwagon and be true sportsman and give them credit for what they have acheived so far.

Well said, Clark. My son pointed out the calls being made this year and
asked if the Zebra's would have any reason to influence a game. Hmmm.
So, we started to watch the penalties in all the games we watched. Now it may be that it is a human shortcoming but when replay machines ' don't work',
or NFL tapes concerning a controversial call go missing, very inconsistant interference calls, a fumble into the
end zone by the Illinois player doesn't get called and replay was 'unavailible etc. Well, it seems that if you are a success(Pats, Buckeyes , Sox etc.) somehow
there needs be a bias against them to discredit their success.
Tony D verbalized that very sentiment-Jimmy Johnson put the Pat's issue into perspective, sort of proves the point. Let winners win and losers lose on their own.

in perspective. Might just proove the point.

Wow, I have lost even more respect for Boston fans. I used to love you guys but your egos have grown to enormous levels. You guys cheated and Tony Dungy, who I can't imagine anyone disliking, commented that it was a black mark on the league. He also called you guys the team of the NFL. If you can't show a little humbleness and understand that what you did was wrong then how can anyone respect you? You guys are the best team of this decade and rank with one of the best teams ever (who knows..I will just say you rank up there..we will see at the end if you do win it. God forbid Brady goes down or something like that) but to rip on a good man in Dungy, or to not understand when you are wrong is troubling. What happened to the great fans of Boston of the past?. But, still rooting for you.

Yeah Clark, I guess you’re right, the Pats didn’t cheat. The NFL just took their pick away because they were following the rules. Come on, you don’t seriously think they were cheating or had the intent to cheat??? Did the Pats have those cameras so they could check out Mangini’s bust, or Chad Pennington in tight pants? I mean why else would they have done that. If you walk into a bank wearing a ski mask and a gun in your pocket you will be convicted of intent to rob a bank. The Pats were caught filming with the intent to cheat. Maybe it was the first time they did it, but what if it wasn’t??? If there was no benefit to filming the opposing signals then why do it??? OPPOSING COACHES HAVE TO HIDE THEIR MOUTHS BECAUSE TEAMS LIKE THE PATRIOTS ARE FILMING THEM ILLEGALLY. And given the amount of preparation a team needs to get ready for a game why would they unnecessarily add hours of watching tape of another team on the sidelines if it wasn’t going to help them in any way??? Also I’m glad the team has hired the right men to put a winning franchise in place, but how do you explain the fact that they directly cost their team a first round pick??? Last time I checked the Patriots do a excellent job of drafting players, and they just hurt themselves immensely by BREAKING THE RULES

Ah, the old piped-in noise claim-- it's all rubbish. What you heard during the Colts-Pats game on CBS (during a pass to Moss) was just audio feedback on the CBS broadcast. The network stated that fact the following day. And those in attendance inside the RCA Dome (Patriots players, me, 57,000 others but were you in there? I didn't think so.) did not hear that strange noise inside the Dome.

Nick,
No, the Patriots didn't cheat and so far you have not explained how they have cheated, then or afterwards. Watching an opponent and/or the other coaches is not cheating and it is not illegal. It is GOOD INTELLIGENCE and it happens all the time on both a micro and macro level.

The Patriots were fined solely for the placement of a camera where the NFL rules said not to place it. Hence, the NFL took away a draft pick because they didn't follow the rules. I agree with you on that topic.

I also didn't say there was no benefit in filming an opposing teams signals. I said Jimmy Johnson used to do it, but stopped because he felt there was little to be gained for the effort. Others, obviously don't feel that way and continue to film opponents.