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Samuel & Sheppard
ANALYSIS
With CB Asante Samuel visiting the Eagles today, one area to watch is how his potential signing -- the deal being discussed is six years, $60 million if Samuel is to reach all incentives -- impacts current Eagles CB Lito Sheppard.
Every free-agent signing has ripples through a locker room.
So the question is how Sheppard, a first-round pick in 2002, would view a megabucks deal for Samuel. Sheppard had signed a five-year, $25 million extension in 2004 and is scheduled to make $2 million in base salary in 2008.
Samuel's potential addition could lead to Sheppard being traded.
If that's the case, it will be interesting to watch if the Patriots get involved. Sheppard is the cousin of Patriots WR Jabar Gaffney, who is also a free agent.



It my understanding that the eagles are trying to send Lito Shepard and a pick to the Cardinals for Fitzgerald.....
Samuels can get gone! I don't think I am out of line, even wothout having seen the SB game tape, but you can bet Bill saw it. He went for the pick on Tyree's TD and wiffed! And we all know how he dropped the game clinching INT with a minute or so left. Yes, he has made some key plays over the years, but he lost a lot of his value last year to me.
If I were the Eagles I would be trying that, too. Depends upon the pick.
One game does not say he lost value over the whole season, he played great, EVEN THOUGH he missed training camp due to a contract dispute, imagine him with training camp. The Eagles secondary would be much improved, because as good as Lito is, he is very injury-prone and the Eagles need more players that will cause turnovers and that is exactly what Samuels is. So please don't judge Samuels value on the Superbowl game with plays that could go either way in whether he shouldve made them or not, there were 5 Patriots that had a shot of an INT or blocking the Tyree pass, it doesn't mean their all not good, thats ludicrous.
Who's gonna play cornerback for the pats? Hobbs? We all know how that worked out! Samuel has won more games than he's lost! Offseason musts: Randy Moss and Asante Samuel!
go asante
What a rediculous contract!! That is why the Eagles are so awful.
if eagles make this trade i will be amazed first Big thing in years
E-A-G-L-E-S
Eagles are awful? Cmon were not talking about the dolphins or raiders here - They gave us a pretty good run for our money this season if I remember correctly....
i cant remember who went to four straight nfc title games the superbowl, and a play away from a fifth agaist new orleans two years ago, carl nemes jr., can you help me figure the answer out.
eagles need to kick samuels outta here, no one needs him. We did fine, we need to concentrate on our quarter back problem, and Dawkins, Sheppard is awesome, and he makes good plays consistently. Also, I don't like the patriots and don't want their sloppy seconds.
The fact of the matter is Samuel is a good player but he is certainly not a shutdown player. He missed a lot of plays during the year. An int is just one play and 6 or 8 in a year doesn't make one a super player. If gets the money that is being talked about the team that signs him is overpaying by far.
Larry Fitz is supposed to get something like $30 mil over the next 2 years. The Birds ain't gonna do that.
I hope Samuel signs with Philly - freeing them up to send Lito Sheppard to the Patriots!
Eagles need to kick Samuels outta here, we don't need the patriots sloppy seconds, we did fine last year. The only problem the eagles had last year was our quarterback and our boy Dawkins, Dawkins is going to be perfect for this comin season and i love mcnabb but he can step down, he's not producing when necessary. Eagles should save their money
the eagles are NOT Horrible. Yes, we need to improve, yes we need more impact players, but we are not the dolphins, raiders, chiefs, or even the jets from last season. Give respect where it's due. If the birds sign samuel for the five years @ 47.2 million, it's worth it, more than that and they are getting shafted......
This will be a great addition to the Eagles. A bit costly, but still a great addition.
This either gives us the best Def. backfield in the league or a lot of flexibility. Either Lito and Asante at the corners with Sheldon Brown moving from corner to safety with hall of famer - Dawkins.
Or gives us a solid backfield with the flexibility to trade Lito for a WR. Maybe Fitzgerald?
Now we just need another Wideout. Go Eagles!!!
lets go eagles!!!
The Eagles are okay. The Eagles looked like they were on the desent but, since they're getting samuel he may lead them to a few playoff games. The cause of the playoff games would mean more money and next year we can focus on offense when we can get free agents. It was a good contract but eagles fans if you think this is going to lead to another championship run it's not. That won't be for another few years. But expect for a good season, hope asaunte is as good as they say. UNLIKE JAVON KEARSE!!!!!
Is everyone insane here? We almost beat the Pats without our franchise quarterback and if it were not for some ill-advised throws by Feely, we would have won. The Patriots were lucky down the stretch in every game but the last. As for the Eagles, did all of you miss the last three games of the season where Mcnabb was finally back to his former self? The Eagles will definately be going to the playoffs this year . Neither the Giants this year or the Steelers a couple of years ago were all that good and if both of them could win the big game, than it is definately not out of the question for the Eagles to win this year.
Bottom line. Eagles get a solid player who is not injury prone. I would love to keep Shepard and move Brown to safety as the heir apparent to Dawkins. Shepard needs to stop complaining about his contract, he signed it and it was a good deal for him as an unproven player at the time. Eagles can now use the first rounder on DE to go opposite Cole or OT to replace THomas or Runyan.
the facts are this gives the eagles the ability to move an injury proaned corner or a corner who never lived up to his second round draft pick. Couple that with what they have left, and the draft and the eagles are making a statement. They need a defensive end who can pass rush and the draft is stacked with those. They need a wide reciver and hey now they have an expendable pro-bowl calibur corner to trade. If the eagles were so horrible they would not have won three straight and come up two minuets shy of beating the pats. The facts are the eagles lost 5 games by less then 7 points. a couple injuries don't happen a couple calls go the other way and your looking at the eagles in the super bowl because the eagls were on both occassions one good play away from beating the new jersey giants.
I would love to see eagles keep lito with samuels and sign jevon walker who was releasesed today. But if not the fitzgerald trade or even Roy Williams would be perfect. and lets hope and wish for Gabriel Wilson. I like lito more than sheldon but lito gets hurt too much so one has to go. who that is to be is a big question.
That was a great pickup 4 the EAGLES now they need to focus on a big receiver so they can score more in the RED ZONE!!!!!!!
b. miller, you're a moron. eagles picked samuels up to ship sheppard out and get what they really need - a wide receiver. so now they're gonna upgrade corner back and wide receiver all in one trade.
think mcfly - think.
the eagles are thebest so all you haterz on the eagles and asante need to bac off cuz yall suck no go somewhere and take you negtive comments awayz gay faggets
go EAgles and the new addition asante
we also need to get benard berrrian are stallworth are something just a WR and DE
First of all, the Eagles DID need another RELIABLE probowl-caliber corner, they got that with Assante. Great Move!! Now they should go for the kill with Randy Moss. Or if not, Fitzgerald would be even better! But hopefully they wont trade Lito, they can move him to right corner and move hard-hitting Sheldon Brown to free safety alongside Dawkins. Then draft a defensive end or a speedy returner with that 19th overall pick. The eagle would be as complete as any team with no weekness. Remember, the Eagles last year lost about four or five games that they should of won, and McNabb was not back to full health untill the end of the season. This year the Eagle will once again domminate the most competetive division in the NFL. They will be back with a vengence, ready to seal the deal this time around.
In the NFL these days you can never have to many good corners especially with these good spread offense teams. The Eagles alone last year had 11 interceptions Asante had 10 himself and led the league the last 2 years in picks clearly he was the most highly regarded free agent all the birds need to do now is grab Randy Moss and if they pull that off think what Donovan can do with Westbrook, L.J. Smith, Kevin Curtis, Reggie Brown and Randy Moss. If the Moss deal cant be done you must make a trade to get a playmaker like an unhappy Chad Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald. With the 19th pick in the 1st round the Eagles should trade up to try and maybe get a Chris Long to replace the hole of Jevon Kearse who never lived up to his hype with his injuries, overall the Eagles need a few pieces to get to the promise land which isnt far at all in 2007 the Eagles played with A.J. Feely after Mcnabb went down while he was having an all-pro year so dont count the Eagles out look at the Giants who won it The NFC is weak the only thing the birds need to wory about is keeping Moss away from Dallas and New England. A few big splash moves will be done before September so sit back wait and evaluate wen the deadline and draft is over and week 1 starts
I would rather go with Fitzgerald considering Moss all but disappears in the playoffs... Granted Moss is a great player, but he is also injury prone and his true personality has been in hiding to ensure a payday this offseason. I like the moves the Birds are making here, reminds me of what they did to get to the superbowl last go around.
why dont the eagles move lito to right corner and trade brown, he isn't a good cover the money they save by trading brown should go to lito and then in the draft look for a young end or corner that could come in to learn and play nickel in certain situation, as far as receiver there isn't too much difference between what you can get in the first round to second in this draft ,I wonder if the eagles approach the cardinals with a package of brown plus there second pick this year and a third next would arizona bite and then restructure and extend fitsgerald contracts so it more cap friendly
Samuel is a good pick up. Contract isnt so bad. Many have said that the eagles got a better deal than expected considering nate clemens contract last year. McNabb will be strong this year. It was unreasonable to expect the normal McNabb last year at all. The last three games were just an indication of what he can do. I'm glad it worked out that way to get some heat off of him. He doesnt need more off field drama; wondering if Philly willl want him back. Lets let him get back to his game. B. Miller - you make no strong points. You're an idiot. If we can pull a Fitz from AZ or another comparable receiver, then we will be right in the mix. Samuel, Westbrook, McNabb, Cole, Andrews, Smith, Unknown WR, and (outside pick) Gaither to pro bowl next year. Eagles go deep in playoffs!
nothing but alot of haters go eagles looking good
I can definitely guarantee you this pats fans, you will not be getting Lito Sheppard for anything short of a 1st Round Pick, he is the best Cornerback in the NFL when he is 100% healthy.
The Eagles trade Lito and their 1st rd 19th pick to Pats for the Pats 7th pick in the first round and get a stud WR or DE!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Birds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What make u think the eagles can afford randy moss he gone want alot of money that the eagles don't have. We should go after clavin johnson of the lions they need a cornerback anyway trade lito shepperd. If the patriots dont have randy moss next year they aint gone be shit without a good CB. PEOPLE WILL SCORE ON THEM LIKE CRAZZY!!!!!
The best secondary in league belongs to the philadelphia eagles.they shouldnt trade lito they should move him to the right side and move sheldon to saftey.As far as recievers go we should try to get stalworth back and try to get jevon walker.That would make for a solid recieving corp.Release reggie brown to free up cap room....also would be a good year to draft a kicker David akers has been slipping a little bit in the past year FLY EAGLES FLY........
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES 2009 Superbowl champs!!!
Aiight move with Samuel...Dont trade Lito cause that would be a dickhead move when we can have two pro-bowl corners. #1 move is to go for the big play wide reciever like Moss, C. Johnson, or a reciever that will make big plays when neccessary(ALL THE TIME.) Trade Sheldon Brown and get a strong safety to go beside the best free safety of all time...Brain Dawkins #20
The eagles clearly made a big move but they need a wr and it not going to be RANDY MOSS somebody like jevon walker would be a great pick up and lito should stay put cause he's better than brown he been 2 way more probowls and have more interceptions than him they should also draft DeShawn with the 19 pick overall he can be a good solid wr wit playmaking in the return and recieving game writen all over him AND McNabb is a top 5 QB in the NFL I think he will stay put
You can have Lito.
He'll play his six games this year and miss the rest with a sprained ankle.
You can have him Pats fans!
GO EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW WE NEED A WR AND THATS GONNA BE LARRY
problem is that lito is a better player, therefore he has higher trade value. the lions maybe willing to part w williams but noway johnson. lito and number 19 pick for roy williams or the bengals are hurtin unload, lito and maybe a third or fourth rd. pick for johnson. his number is high but restructured i think its a possibility. remember the days of mcnabb to owens.......not as good as ocho cinco. holla
keep lito will have the best secondary in the nfl
i like lito i think we should keep him! we will have the best defense in the league wit them 3!
there are a lot of idiots in here....sheldon brown isnt a bad corner in fact he's pretty solid and if you just keep lito sheppard and try to sign javon walker to add another playmaker on offense and keep all of their picks....then they could package together some of those picks and make some moves in the draft to get the players that they really want which number one should be jake long to play under william thomas for a year and eventually replace him that would almost ensure that the eagles will make it to the playoffs and return to dominence for the next couple of years...but thats just what i think
p.s. i think a lot of people are going to be surprised to see that if the eagles dont draft or sign a safety, j.r. reed will be starting over sean considine at strong safety, with considine playing situational roles and rotating in
go eagles. im from texas and i am a big eagles fan. i like what the eagles are doing. i dont lito should leave, but if he wants to leave let him. now lets just go out and get a good wr. P.S Cowboys suck
i like what the eagles are doing so far in the free agency market, but we should also focus on the offensive line because mcnabb took a beating last year ,(especially that game against new york), and also feeley too.. i agree what the guy from message #46 said. we should go after an offensive lineman in the draft because runyan is getting up there and thomas was there since '96. that guy should be jake long; but mel kuyper said kansas city might take him. we should make a deal with the chiefs before the draft starts.
great pickup by getting samuel...do not get rid of lito and put him either at right or left corner...move sheldon brown to either nickelback or strong saftey right next to b-dawk...and if and i say IF because the eagles are scared to spend money they should go get either randy moss or javon walker...if they trade lito it will be one of the stupidest things ever...and if they do these things dont worry we are goin all the way!!!
I say that we keep Lito ,and move him to the other side,and put Sheldon at safety .That will cover the defensive backs ,and allow the defensive line to get to the quaterback .Also we need to get Walker or Fitzgearld ,and we still need a return man .Good moves made by the EAGLES .
Ok.. Message number 46.. J.R. Reed will not start next season. He was great for us, and I think he will play a lot, but Mikell will absolutely receive the starting job over him. I don't think we should move Lito. He doesn't want to leave (he would just like to have more money), but he is a great corner, and the combo of him, sheldon, dawk, asante, and hopefully we can add a good SS, gives us what is probably the most lethal secondary in the NFL. I say the next thing we should focus on is signing Javon Walker. We can not afford to let the cowgirls take him because we can not defend two huge receivers in T.O. and Walker. Fitzgerald would be a nice addition, and he is what we need, but it would be to expensive to bring him in. The draft is also filled with talented wide receivers. Desean Jackson (A extremely quick, with ver
with very good hands, and he is a great return guy. Also, Mario Manningham. He is allergic to not getting the ball in the endzone. We struggled in the RZ last year, and we would help tremendously. Limas, who is regarded as the best receiver in the draft, is a big bodied receiver that I would really like the Eagles to draft. I could not imagine any of these guys going before the 15th pick
getting asante smauel is a great move and the eagles shouldnt trade lito. just move sheldon brown 2 safety then the eagles secondary will be amazing again the just need depth casue lito is injury prone
go eagles
i like the addition of asante samuel,but i also think we should keep lito sheppard. they can put sheldon brown in on nickel and dime and keep dawkins and mikell at the saftey positions. bottom line keep lito. GO EAGLES !!!!!!!
i like the addition of asante samuel,but i also think we should keep lito sheppard. they can put sheldon brown in on nickel and dime and keep dawkins and mikell at the saftey positions. bottom line,keep lito. GO EAGLES !!!!!!!
I agree with Zak but trade LJ and a first or second round draft pick to get roy williams or larry fitzgerald.
i like a little of all your commits,keep lito,move sheldon to ss or to a #3 cb for nickel and dime,and get mcnabb(the best qb in football ,when healthy)some more targets. i like javon walker or if possible RANDY MOSS. the stupid @$$ pats are too dumb to sign him or asante samuel,which by the way is bad @$$. GO EAGLES !!!!!!!!!!
great approach to get samuel, hopefully Sean Considine will be healthy at strong safety this year, quick question who the hell is our fullback now that tapeh went to the vikings? we need to save so money after spending it all and get ernest wilford from jacksonville he's big a physical and shouldn't cost that much so we can spend money on the offensive o-line for protecting McNabb cause when he has time hopfully someone can get open this year. GO EAGLES "08"
well the only problem with sheldon brown being moved to safety is that i really dont think he is a guy who can come up and be the eighth man in the box i may be crazy but usually you dont send a corner to be that "fourth linebacker" and i think that j.r. might actually give mikell or considine a run for their money to be honest but i think the eagles will add another safety in free agency like that one from st. louis
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