Robert Kraft on Matt Walsh & videotaping

Dear Mr. Kraft, I will NEVER look back on this season as being "remarkable". It was nothing more than a remarkable unforgivable choke! One of the biggest chokes in all sports history and New England. Not to mention coming on top of one of the other biggest chokes in sports history last year in Indy. As long as you consider it "remarkable" the team will never get over the top again. You've left two championships on the table, two in a row no less. Anything less than 38-0 over the next two years is NOT acceptable! Last year's team goes down in history; its story and its choke will be relived in NFL history forever and the fans will have to live with it forever. Unlike other sports, the loser of the SB is never forgotten. Whenever someone refers to the last two losses I start physically gagging! And watching the last two losses requires medication! Remember, Bill Buckner was still beloved in this town for a few years after his miss. But a few years later the fans ran him out of town! Members of the Pats run this risk over the next five years; the team is not out of the woods yet regarding this phenomenon. You need to do better, that includes the chief executive. And it starts by changing your objective: drop the "champion of the division" nonsense and go with "Goal is never to lose a game, ever, especially never a playoff or championship game". That goal will serve us all better. I was the one buying 30 tickets during very bad 90's seasons, with every game seemingly 24-3 at halftime with the rain going sideways. So I know my Pats and I've paid my dues. I will NOT tolerate any more of this under-achieving while management continues patting people on the back! The Pats are officially on double-secret probation! Anyone listening in Foxboro???

Time to move on.

Maybe jeffk661 should start following the Jets.

the season is only remarkable for the failure to win that 19th game. 18-1 means you couldn't win the ONLY game that mattered. They weren't prepared, either. Blew off a last day walk-through. Tom Brady went all Tony Romo during the first week (pretty sure the old Tom Brady, the real one, would have spent both weeks in Foxboro). Ergo, not a great team. Not such a great coaching job either.

18*-1

It says it all...

18*-1

It says it all...

comment 1 has the correct first initial j for joke - and joke661 is not fooloing anyone - your not from boston dso quite trying to act like it -

Greatest Dynasty Ever history will prove to be the New england Patriots

Jeffk, come off the ledge and take your medication. I am so sorry you had to endure two whole losses in 12 months of football. No man should have to endure that level of mediocrity. I am curious if when you were watching those rain-soaked ballgames in the 90's (did it actually rain more in the last decade?) were you thinking, "If they don't win every Super Bowl from here on out they are underachieving"? While every Pats fan is disappointed with the SB loss it borders on lunacy to describe the most successful organization currently in sports as culturally underachieving. If you will NOT tolerate this any longer feel free to pick up season tickets to the Bengals, Cardinals, Lions, 49'ers, Dolphins, Bruins.......
You are among the chosen few who have no clue when they have it good.

Jeff, I'll agree with the Super Bowl being a choke. But the Indy game being "one of the biggest chokes in sports history" proves your a clown.

RE : #1. Get a life. It's a game.

No confidentiality agreement and Walsh still hasn't spoken. Still it's good enough for JT and his gang of editorial pot-stirrers. The innocent need to be exonerated in this case. One reporter's credibility has been ruined but only because their character was revealed in this matter.

jeffk661, dude, STEP DOWN. underachieving? You need a reality check. You are absolutely whats wrong with New England fans today. YOU are the reason we all get a bad name.

Get a damn life.

..best laid schemes of mice and men...
18-1 may hurt but to say all previous effort is wasted is
just being a poor loser....
the fun is in the game...
not the aftermath

Look, they won 3 out of a possible 5 Super Bowls. They really ran out of steam in those 2 losses (@ IND, vs NYG) and had some things go against them at the wrong time the last 2 years.

If someone came up to you 10 years ago and said they'd win 3 Super Bowls...but would narrowly miss out of 2 more, you still would've taken it in a heartbeat.

As upset as I was after the Super Bowl, the 2007 team still did something NO team will ever do in 1 season again: 16-0 reg season, 50 TD passes, 23 TD recepts, most team points.

That combination of records will NEVER be done again by 1 team in 1 season. You can mark it down.

"Jeffk661" = MORON

JeffK661 is a stupid asslicker. Go root for the Cowboys or the Raiders you scumbag.

the pats got beet the past two years with game ending drives where the defense should end the game... now they have the same linebackers returning for 2009... what is up with this?

jc

Dear Jeffk661,
You are an absolute moron! You have no clue what you are talking about. If you honestly think that this team, stafff and management ever plan on losing games then you just don't understand sports. No one goes out and intentionally loses games, unless they're tanking the end of a season for a draft choice or involved in some sort of a gambling scandal. Get it together Jeff! Manage your expectations, because this organization has given you back more than a moron fan like you deserves in the past seven years.

Gee Jeff, hope you do not have any kids as they'll frag you when you they get old enough. 30 tickets in the rain, well you're an idiot, not a fan. These are the best years any franchise has had. Perhaps Mr. Kraft should sell to Jeremy Jacobs ? Perhaps you'd like to root for the one hit wonder NYG. Suit up this summer and tryout if you like.

A Pats fan for 30 years, though I only bought two tickets in the 90's.

jeffk661, have you ever played football? Week in and week out it is a struggle to win nevermind 18 in a row. Look as some other teams, they'd kill to have more than 6 wins in ANY season. We all know the mantra about not trying to lose, but they do happen and things happen. 4 superbowl appearances in 7 years is pretty good to me with 3 wins. Don't let us be like the New York Yankees or the Cowboys. Don't forget all those year that the Pats suffered as a team and fan base. Mr Kraft has taken this team from the laughing stock of the NFL to the Top of the food chain in a short amount of time. Enjoy the run and there will be another SB win or 2 in the near future. I left MA only to see the Sox win 2 world series and then the pats to win 1 superbowl and go to another in 4 years, and now look at the celtics and even the bruins, not to mention the college teams doing well. I can't see why you are so bitter and mad, no one held a gun or a knife to you and said go sit in the rain and snow during down season. The city is up and sports is doing it. Sheesh this is why everyone outside of beantown hates us, we cant accept anything less than perfection.

Wow, at least Jeff did not revert to namecalling and personal attacks like a great deal of you! And to Mike K., the Indy game was pretty high up there among greatest chokejobs, at least for an AFC Championship game. No team had ever given up a lead that big at half time and lost before.

wow...jeffk661 you sure are "entitled" to titles aren't you? Man, I wish we could all stop by your used car dealership and see how if looks when you don't sell a car to EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER ON EVERY SINGLE DAY. Because, truly, that would be easier than going 16-0 in the NFL. So, keep the horizontal rain and the 30 tickets in the mid-90's and lighten up a bit. I'm sure you have never been perfect at a damn thing in your life and your "beloved" Pats went 30 seconds from being perfect. Try enjoying that, for a change...you'll live longer and sound less petulant.

Thanks be to God for owners like Robert Kraft. No nothings can spout all they want about supposed chokes. In case anyone can't figure this out, there were 30 teams that didn't make it to the Big Dance. Only two that did. Congratulations to both of them for providing thrills galore during a terrific season. In case you haven't forgotten Grasshopper, the journey is the measure of a man, or a great team.

Jeff, you da man. I HATE the Paatrioot fans. 18-1. Deal with it and get me some damn film for my camera. More film.

Kraft's comment;
“I think we’ve covered the subject. We broke a rule the first week of the season, we were penalized very heavily, and look what happened after that game,"

Come on Kraft "broke a rule the first week of the season"??..You must be suffering from a severe memory loss...BB told Roger Goodell that he has been doing this since 2000 (although it was not illegal until 2005). And what about the warnings when Matt Estrella was booted from the Detroit and Green Bay games in 2006?

To Jeff and anyone else who thinks the season OR the SB was the biggest choke and the season was a waste - you are not fans of the Patriots. A Patriot fan remembers the 2-14 and 1-15 years and the numerous years when the Boston/NE Patriots were the jokes, not the chokes of the league. To see how far they have come to become one of the model franchises in all of sports! You think while the games are going on the team says oh, lets lose this one so we don't go into the playoffs undefeated. Get real!! They played as hard as they could. Our first SB Vs STL was the mirror image of this SB. Was the Greatest show on Turf one of the biggest upsets? I will take 18-1 any year , every year. Go PATS

Unbelievable, who among you performs their jobs at 100%? No one, and no one can be expected to. This is ludicrous. Enjoy the perfect season and rejoice that you could be a part of it. If you don't get it, check in to a state hospital and find some satisfaction in the appropriate medication.

its to bad you cant filter out fans Giants and jets fans that pose as pats fans. Most of these wouldnt be here. Yankees suck and the giants (with little &%&^#) suck too!! you ny fans should all keep in ming that GPA stat they came up with you idiots. lol get brain then get a life

The Pats got caught doing something that any other NFL team could do. They got hammered for it. They beat quite a few good teams in the past three seasons. They missed out on one game, asi es la vida. I do not hear anyone saying the same thing about the St. Louis Cardinal, the White Sox, the Yankees or the Rockies. And what will they call the Celtics this year?

Remember, it is only a game. We should put more interest into what our service men and women are doing to protect our country. Spygate is B.S., WMDgatge is far more important.

Keep it all in perspective.

The point is with RK mentioning what he did about Walsh, looks like there is NOTHING there and that is sure a good thing.

No somking gun.
No video
Nothing, except, perhaps a nice fat lawsuit staring down the throat of the Herald thanks to Judas TomASSee.

Also, remember folks, in America, innocent until proven guilty - haven't seen that followed by the new MTV network formerlly known as sports by ESPN, Sports Sillystrated or the other haters of our New England Patriots.

Since buying season tickets 15 years ago the Pats have been to the Superbowl 30% of the time...Some people seem to forget those things..

Let's get over this and move on. Remarkable...choke !! Who cares
get a life you losers

Jeffk661 should change his name to JERK-OFF 661.

Punk that he is.

JR, If you lived in NY you would be on Boston sites slamming the pats too because living in that Rat hole stinks. And now that NY has $-Rod they are totally bummed because they know the Yankees will never win again.

I've live in New England my whole life up to a year ago and moved to Orchard Park, NY- home of the Buffalo Bills. Let me tell this area is absolutely crazy about their sports like we are- and they'd give their left (pick your body part) to have one 1 SB. The moron that wrote we're underachievers should wake up and move to Buffalo or Cleveland and sit and in a bar and lament about the poor under-achieving Patriots.........let me know how that works out for you.

Jeffk661: very funny!!!!

I especially like the double-secret probation. And the rain going sideways, makin' rivers on those aluminum benches....

*Yawn* Move along, nothing new to see here ...

Curt #26,

I guess being a Pats fan means we can't have an opinion that differs from yours.

TommyBoy in Porta Fino, Costa Rica, and NYC .. baby Moynihan in Malibu with Bridgette ... TommyBoy a no show in Foxborough ,,, prefers Brazialian hotties over Chicopee Babes ... and PATSIE fans suffer in ignomineous defeat all winter in the villlage of Boston ....

To be a sports fan in Boston or anywhere in New England for that matter is like living a dream. We dominate year in year out and if the Pats don't close the deal the Red Sox do. Now we have the Celtics breaking records left and right, and who knows maybe bringing another championship to Boston. It gets better and better every year! As for Mr. Kraft and I believe I speak for the majority of Pats fans, we have been blessed with one of the best team owners the NFL has ever seen... Keep up the good work Mr. Kraft.

Helpthejimmyfund - why did the Patriots go 17-1 after that first Jets game? If you think videotaping provided any noticable advantage you're watching too much ESPN. You and others who believe this want everyone to do 5 years in prison for going 70mph in a 65mph zone.

I hate losers. Jeff you are really some kinda Loser.

Dear fellow Pats fans: You know you have a truly GREAT team when in defeat they still get ten times the press, positive OR negative than the "one-and-done" winning team from New Jersey. The world has a hard-on for the Patriots.

I go to school in NY and I have a few things to say about this. I am a loyal Patriots fan and have watched them since I was younger. Spygate is exactly what the name sounds like, it's just a hyped up event that was small and was blown way out of proportion by a NY team and the media. Is it any coincidence that the city with the biggest media pull (New York City) the place with ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox News headquarters is the city that has the team who "blew the whistle" / "snitched" in this case? I think not. This whole spygate thing is just some overblown, minute, event that happened in the first game of the season (yeah I know it's been happening since 2000, but no one cared until now). First, everyone has something against Bill Belichick because of the way he looks. I once watched someone on ESPN make an argument saying that he doesn't believe Bill Belichick because 'There's something about the way he looks". Figures, has to be a NY thing, something that unintelligent couldn't come from somewhere else. Here's something some of you might not know about this: The Green Bay Packers said the same exact thing in the 2006-2007 season about the Patriots, that they were taping their defensive calls, yet no one even cared, not the league, and not the ignorant arrogant people who write on walls such as this just to hate on a fanbase. Why does everyone care so much now? The answer: New York City. Also, the tapes were taken away in the first quarter. Another thing, I can tape all the defensive calls I want but I still have to go out there and do it physically. If you're better physically you will win and the teams that lost in the superbowls and playoff games against the Patriots were simply not better than them (with exception being the Rams) Tell me how the Patriots can beat the Jets by 21 without tapes for 3 quarters. Answer: The Jets aren't good and got beat by a better team. Because New York has the media (especially the sports media) world wrapped around their finger they can come out with something very small, and make it into something huge because everyone in New York recognizes that it is a team associated with Boston so they write about it, talk about it, and most importantly SLANT it so that everyone else who is on the receiveing end of this filth pouring out of New York media outlets gets a slanted view in favor of New York and against Boston. It happens time and time again. Watching a Red Sox-Yankees playoff game on Fox makes me want to vomit because it's so biased. ESPN is no better with their incessant talk of "Spygate", their pictures of a sullen Bill Belichick, and their constant negativity to everything Boston. I swear if they could photoshop a swastika on Bill Belichick they would. ESPN is always questioning Boston teams, degrading them, it's disgusting and it's controlled by New York. It's kind of funny because everyone wants to take the records away from the Patriots for "cheating" yet in the steroids scandal in baseball, which most people, especially the Patriots hating nation, would agree is some form of cheating the Mitchell report lists 20 of 80 players to be former or current Yankees. Now if we're going to critisize the Patriots, why not the Yankees. Why don't we call for the rings from 1996, 98, 99 and 2000? Because it's a New York team and the way the scandal is portrayed is against individuals. The Yankees aren't the cheaters, and Yankee fans don't get any criticism for it, it's the individuals, Roger Clemens, and Andy Pettite who are critisized. Coincidence? I think not. It's a typical New York attitude, and I would know because I live here, New York fans are the same thing as Boston fans but they control the media so they point the finger north and make it seem like Boston fans act just like New York writer's say they do. And in terms of the superbowl, Giants fans really need to get off their high horse you were 14-6, you are a joke team, with a joke quarterback, that won a joke superbowl, they played well in ONE game, which by the way isn't the only game that mattered (but don't tell Giants fans they might get offended) because, just like the superbowl, the playoff games have the same implication, you lose you go home without a championship. I think that each playoff game is the most important game to the teams that play in them. Ask the Green Bay Packers what was the most important game of their season. And I'm sure no one liked watching Randy Moss and Tom Brady set like 100 records in front of all your fans in your home stadium. Everyone hated the Giants when they were 0-2, no one wanted to hear the name "Eli Manning" when he threw 6 interceptions a few weeks before the superbowl. I'm proud to be a Patriots fan I'm just sick of the bad rap we all get for the utter ignorance of the people in New York who spread that attitude to everyone else in the country because of their media hold. Bad teams make excuses, and spygate is an excuse, get a life America and stop hating on a fanbase when you have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.

26* Championships

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE PATRIOTS HAD A SUPER FANTASTIC YEAR AND HAD A SUPER HORRIBLE SUPER BOWL. THE PATRIOTS WERE OUT PLAYED,OUT COACHED, AND QUITE SIMPLY MAN-HANDLED BY THE BETTER TEAM THAT DAY. I THINK IF THAT GAME COULD BE PLAYED AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE GIANTS WERE SIMPLY GIANTS AND THE PATRIOTS WERE PATSYS FOR THAT ONE GAME. I LOVE THE PATRIOTS AND HAVE BEEN A FAN FOR 40 YEARS AND LIVED THROUGH SOME UGLY TIMES AND WILL NEVER FORGET THEM. THE SUPER BOWL IS ONE OF THEM. GET OVER IT.......IT IS WHAT IT IS. 1 HORRIFIC BAD YESTERYEAR DOOM AND GLOOM GAME

As soon as the super bowl ended, baseball season began. At least that's how I dealt with it. The I thought about it, and just having your team in that game that's do or die is pretty much the reason that we watch them, follow them, and basically suffer through all those losing years. It's punch in the gut to end it that way, but I had a blast watching it all. If you need your team to win to sleep at night then perhaps you should get back to reality. Enjoy it while it lasts!!

Jeffk - you are absolutely nuts and typical of a segment of New England Sports fans who have no memory. First of all, you forget that the 90's were highlighted by a superbowl appearance and many great memories of the heroic Drew Bledsoe comebacks. But of course you turned on him after a couple seasons of frightful offensive line play. Get a life - fools like you can dump on the Pats amazing accomplishments OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS and look forward to the post Brady years similar to the two decades post Larry for the Celtics- WAKE UP JEFF!!!!

Ya know, the Giants had a little bit of luck in the SB. There should have been an interception and the catch with the football on the helmet was incredible. Give the Giants there due. They came out with a defense that was incredible, and Maninng played the game of his life. But just imagine if the Pats had won. All the anti-patriots would have come out with oh, the Patriots must somehow cheated... BB has stolen film footage... The Patriots gave us a remarkable season. I thank the whole team and organization for giving us what will soon not be duplicated any time soon!

Hello !?!?!?
All you fair-weather fans out there, Watch the Giants amazing last drive again if you can. It was Boggus !!!
It was very clear that the ref`s had it out for the Patriots. This was their penance for spy gate. They were probably told to eat their whistles unless the penalties were so blatant that they could "Not" call it.......... But Wait . Watch the play when Eli Manning scrambled to get free, Slow Motion the DVD and count how many Giant players were holding the Patriots defenders from underneath their face masks and reach out from behind themselves to hook the defender while they were trying to get by them. I counted 5 holding calls that should have been Made...... 5 !!!!
The referees were right there on top of them. One ref was not even looking at the play that was going on and He was the Umpire !?!?!?!
Be proud of how the Patriots were able to drive down and score to take the lead with 2 minutes and 30 something seconds left. That took guts on Tom Brady & Co. to do.The Offense did their part in the SB. Now it was up to the defense and they did all they could.
The Giants needed to be very very lucky with alot of help from the Refs who gave the game to the Giants, to beat the Patriots.
Wait till next year, Eli Manning is Not that good of a QB. He will not bring his team to the Playoffs again Like Tom Brady will do Time and Time again for as long as he is in a Patriots Uniform.

Choke my a**....Pats got owned....Brady (baby daddy) is still nursing those hits he took from the Giants D....hey JR, quit crying and check your spelling you moron (ming?????) keep on kidding yourselves Pat fans...keep that mantra "it was a choke...it was a choke"...Giants 17- 14

We are SOOOO lucky to be Boston sports fans. People wait a lifetime to experience what we have in such a little amount of time. Take time to enjoy sports for what they really are. Have fun and learn life lessons.

P.S. I made peace with this situation when we signed Randy to a 3 year extension. There is a reason he stayed here, and I am patient enough to wait for it to happen!

And by the way, to those NY fans, last time I checked we have one two World Series in the past 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeff661 you are a complete ass and you just proved it. I am so sick of Patriot Fans that espouse how they are more deserving to be called a fan than others. Get off your soap box your theories are twisted and franky immature. Grow up and be proud of an organization and an owner that has done so much to bring renewed hope to a franchise that was hours away from going to St Louis. You should go take some meds, see your therapist, and then come back an apologize to all the true patriot fans that you have offended. As of now you are a repugnent jerk. You are the type of fan that causes so many people to dislike the Patriots.

jeffk661 appears to lack an understanding of NFL parity. The other teams are pretty darn good and the Pats have provided us with a feeling of invincibility in this extremely competitive environment. The enlightened are well aware of how fleeting that feeling is. Thank you Pats for some fabulous entertainment! Keep up the great work!

Robert Kraft is a great owner. I think we are lucky to have him and BB at the helm. The crap that other people say doesn't matter.

I don't doubt that we may not have a repeat 18-0 season, but in 2007 we defeated: Indy, San Diego, Pittsburg, Jacksonville, Cleveland, and many other god teams. It was quite a ride and many other teams that deserved to be in the superbowl played their best didn't make it. That's how it goes in the NFL, you can play great for 60 minutes 18 times, and still lose in the final game. We may not wear superbowl rings this year, but we demonstrated how hard it is to earn those rings and why the challenge is as great as it is. Enjoy it NY Giants while you can, you may not be defending champs for a long time.

Bill Belichick. Tom Brady. Randy Moss. Wes Welker. These are the names we should remember...not Eli, Plax, or Coughlin. Nor jeffK661. It's disappointing that most of the posts were ripping the first post, instead of offering some fresh ideas. Lets get serious: we lost the super bowl because we became way too arrogant. The organization and the fans had already committed to the forgone conclusion that we would surely beat the Giants in the big game. Everyone knows it, and now we all pay the price. We were the St Louis Rams to those Giants. We were the "lock", and all of new England was caught with their pants down. I myself am so excited about the 2008 campaign. This will be a defining year for this amazing team, and we had better not get overzealous again.

The Patriots were facing playoff-type competition for much of the season as every team wanted to be the one to stop this GREAT team. One of the greatest in history! The Super Bowl loss hurt but Brady just showed he is human and playing hurt. He is a man among boys! 4 more points and there is NO disputing this was the greatest team in NFL history, so 4 points less and a hurt QB don't take away from that. So basically, New Yorkers, please go !@#$ yourselves!

LOL, I love you guys! I get on here and get ready to rip Jeff whoever there at comment number 1 a new a$$ and you guys have already done it for me. PATRIOT NATION RULES!!!!

The goal is to never lose a game, lol where did this guy come from?

Patriots or Giants,which one will make the playoffs next year I'll take the pats!
I'm a huge Pats fan,any of you skeptical ticket holders can give me your tickets and end your misery now! !!!Get real,the pats have an excellant shot at more super bowls more than any other team! Enjoy it while it lasts it wont last forever.

I enjoyed this year. I was happy from opening day in September until William Shakespeare wote the tragic ending to the superbowl. Every weekend I was happy. In my opinion, the feat of winning 18 games was one of the all time great feats of NFL history. If the Patriots had won the superbowl, my life would have been complete; I could have gone to the grave witnessing what would have been the most significant historical event in NFL history.
Now, however, I will have to be satisfied with the 18 wins. But don't despair look for the Patriots to win every game next year and win the superbowl. The Steelers of the 70' won 4 superbowls but did not win the year that they had their best team in Steeler history due to injuries mainly to Franco Harris. The Steelers lost to Oakland but came back to win the superbowl th next year.

I hate to admit it but I have watched the NFL every weekend since 1952. I missed the weekend that my daughter was born in 1965.(Pittsburgh lost to Cleveland) I do thank the football gods for being able to watch Bell Bellichick display his thorough knowledge of football from A to Z. He is truly one of the greatest coaches of all time

An amazing drive and a lead that was overtaken by a fluke throw and a fluke catch.

if you want to talk biggest chokes go back to the 2004 alcs where the yankees blew a 3-0 series lead losing to the impending world champion red-sox

I'm not a Patriots fan. I've been a Bills fan for more years than I'd care to let on. Anyway, I have to say that I believe New England is the best team over a five year period than any other team in history. Buffalo went to 4 conscutive Superbowls but what NE has done is simply amazing. Nothing but respect here. Anyway, good luck next year. As for this Buffalo fan, I will be watching when the Bills finally get some payback(this year I think). Good job NE but I'm still Bills fan.