Ellis Hobbs on fans' booing

Ellis,
The team is certainly allowed to have bad games. Those can and will happen.

But what we saw on Sunday was not just a bad game, it was a lack of effort and will. And that deserves to be booed.

Maybe someone should remind Ellis what it costs to attend a Pats game.

Amen... this is why Ellis Hobbs the Third is the man. I was at the game yesterday and the only person I booed was Joey Porter. Fans here are spoiled as he says. Yes the patriots stunk yesterday but they've had games like this in 2001 (30-10 loss to miami in brady's 2nd start??? remember people?) and other seasons. Let's not all loose our minds here. It's one game... support the Pats no matter what.

In Bill I Trust

Well, Hobbs was probably the only player for the Pats that actually showed up.

Those Patriot fans at the game are idiots arnd bandwagoners. I have been a fan since '84, so that speaks for itself. It sucks we lost to a bad team with a weird offensive scheme - BB was out schemed. It will not happen again.
This team has been successful in the new millenia and has played its worst game since the year we opened in Buffalo and were shutout - the team later ended the season at home by shutting out Buffalo ( I may be wrong on the venues). Of course, we had Tom Brady. So we will wait and see, but it is purely moronic for fans to boo the most successful franchise in recent memory.

Boston fans are spoiled, it's true

I completely agree with Hobbs! Some Patriot fans are spoiled and should move to Detroit if they really want to boo. The pats got beat by a "better" team YESTERDAY. Out played and out coached. I never really understood booing your team anyway. Do you really think that will make them play better? Those that were booing should not consider themselves true pats fans.

Put your money where your mouth is Ellis!!!! Tell Mr Kraft your team-mate who fit into your own statement "that we’re not allowed a bad game or something like that." Keep the paycheck!!!! Most of the D and the entire O-Line should be embarrassed to take a check for yesterdays effort or lack there of!!!

Excellent perspective! Before all the money came to pro sports & ticket prices were reasonable, I would use the term 'fair weather fans'. Today, as long as they aren't profane, I guess fans can cheer good performance & boo bad. I mean are they there to sooth the self esteem needs of these guys.

Ellis, the "fans" are going to eat you alive for this, but you are right on the money. Obviously yesterday's game was a gigantic disappointment in so many ways, and maybe the team even deserved a few boos. But today's Patriots fans are a spoiled bunch of whiners. It just made me sick to see all of those fans sitting in their seats with their arms folded, yawning. If they really cared about this team they would have been on their feet, screaming at the top of their lungs to try to give a lift to their team.

This is the perennial nature of the Boston sports fan, stoked by decades of failure on the part of the Red Sox. On an essential level, they are emotionally removed from their teams. These fans root with you as long as you're winning, and when you show any signs of weakness, they turn on you like a savage pack of wild dogs. They take much more pleasure in kicking you when you're down than in rejoicing with your victories. There are an awful lot of coattail-riders in this town.

I've been a Patriots fan since the 70's, and I learned one lesson from those dark years -- you support your team, win or lose. When they're out there getting their butts whipped, you get on your feet and start screaming. You don't sit in your seat, checking out your email on your Blackberry...

Thank you Ellis. I am from Detroit, who has a franchise who hasn't sniffed the playoffs in years and the fans never leave early. It was a shame to see fans leaving early. The team that has brought home 3 championships in 7 years, and a near perfect record last year. Just a shame.

Why is this a shock. Patriot fans are passionate, but not very knowledgeable. They are to consumed with their own team they can't see the big picture.

Hey Ellis,

If I'm paying over $100 to go to the game then I expect a better performance then what you guys put on the field. We have a right to boo just as we cheer when things go well.

Hobbs, is right. It's really pathetic for the NE fans to boo before halftime. We are spoiled by all the rings and results and should do more to support our team. How many times have teams turned it around in the second half? It didn't happen for us, but it does not help our players to hear that our fans are ready to throw them off a cliff when times get tough.

Worst in stadium fans in the NFL. They can muster up the boos at a moments notice, but not much noise when the defense is on the field. It's nice to see all the empty seats in the lower bowl and the red club seats. Fortunately, as more and more stadiums add PSLs and ticket prices go up, the Patriots will have competition for the worst stadium crowd in the NFL.

"You pays your money and you gets your right to boo."

B.S. Either you're a fan or you're not, nitwits. If you want to act like Eagles fans, move to Philly. If it's a "good performance" you expect to get in return for your ticket, go to Cirque de Soleil. Stay the hell away from Gillette, or the Garden, or Fenway, or your kids' sporting events. What? Don't you pay to watch high school football and basketball? Why not boo there? Just because the kids don't get paid isn't any reason to withhold. After all, you're entitled since you paid for the ticket, right?

Don't show up next time. Who needs you. Oh, last thing. When you're qualified to tell the difference between a lack of effort and being outcoached, then you can comment.

Spoken true. As a long time Patriots fan, the crowd at Gillette yesterday was EMBARRASSING. We truly have been spoiled, and have asked too much at times. It's week effing 3 fellas. They are 2-1 and they're allowed to lose their first game in 21 attempts. Apparently some ungrateful "fans" haven't been around long enough to trust a Bill Belichick football team to rebound from something like this. The last thing the Pats need is its fan base deserting them, and turning its back when their needed most. You are proving every New England hater right with your bandwagon behavior reminiscent of rivals fans that you have for so long hypocritically chastised. Grow up, man up, and shut the - up.

I've been to every Pats home game for 15 years and anyone who thinks NE fans are "the worst in the NFL" is just stupid. crowd noise is affected by the dynamics of the stadium, don't believe it? check Indy, they were known as some of the loudest fans in the NFL when they had their dome, now they are learning what rational people everywhere realize. a larger, open stadium while does not facilitate the kind of crowd noise a dome or smaller on-top-of-the-players-stadiums do, it's just common sense. sounds dissipates into the air. stop buying into the sterotype that NE fans are not loudly supportive of this team because you just sound ignorant.

Brilliant Bill? What a joke! Guess he is only "brilliant" with Brady in the game. Any NFL coach should have adjusted to that high school brand of football long before the third quarter, not "brilliant Bill though, it only got worse as the game went on. Oh yea, congrats. to all those "loyal" Pats fans booing at the half and piling out of the stadium after the third quarter, hey, that was just Miami, it gets tougher, hope you all enjoy the trip DOWN!

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How spoiled has Hobbs been since he's been drafted that he doesn't know how to handle beeing booed? Personally, I wouldn't have booed if I were at the game, but every fan in the stadium has the right to. What would the prefered reaction be? Standing ovation? That would be patronizing. Dead silence? At least the boos show that people care about the team's performance.

It also seems like Ellis forgets that fans have to pay to watch the Patriots play live. For many people a lot is invested just to get to out to one game. If you get out to one game a year and during that one game the team tackles like they did yesterday, I'd say that's reason to be disappointed.

Lastly, Ellis, please think before you make a falted analogy. If I only had to go to the office once a week for four months (sorry five months, if you include the four practice days of work) I think I could put in a good effort each and every time. I realize these aren't the same at all, but I find it humorous that he tried to compare his job to one of a typical fan.

Ellis, one of the biggest things to be booed is that you are the poorest tackling cornerback in the NFL - although Deltha O'Neal was vying for that honor on Brown's last big romp through the defense. At this point, you're a glorified kick returner and you're ready to dance around the field at the drop of a hat. The fans have every right to boo a poor performance where the effort is questionable and you're beat in every phase of the game. We are not fair-weather fans, we just hold you to the high standards of the Patriots organization, so when you do get booed - which is very rare - maybe you should not hold it against them, but realize that you deserved it.

Eric - It was the third game. Relax. Honestly I think it might make the entire team relax a little knowing they don't have the pressure of going undefeated in the regular season again. Have to admit you sound so freaking snobbish - as if the Patriots need to be worthy enough to have you cheer for them.

It is the fans prerogative to boo when the team stinks the joint out. Knowledgeable fans will cheer when the team is displaying effort and boo when the team is not performing. Whats the big deal? I don't care how well they have played in the past few years, if they stink, they should be booed.

I have been a fan since the early 70s...

Damn, I'm a huge Pats fan and it's a letdown to see this happen. Fans should try to encourage our players and not boo them. We've got three rings in the last decade...what more do you want? Hobbs is right on the money and I'll keep cheering the boys and hoping they can correct their mistakes.

GO PATS!

Since I was like 5 years old, I was taught that booing was in very poor sport. And while I agree that Sunday was not the Pats greatest outing in a very long time, I am so very grateful that it is the first regular season loss that I have had to watch since 2006! I live in Minnesota now, I still love the Pats dearly, and I every new season, I realize how lucky I have been to witness the Pats Dynasty. But yesterday I was embarrassed to be a fan by all the other fans that booed OUR TEAM!!! Those fans need to gain some respect and some perspective. After all, we don't ever want to be compared to Eagles fans!! Shame on us!

"How many times has someone had a bad day at the office?"
If I performed as horribly at work as the Patriots performed at work on Sunday, the people who pay my salary would let me know about it. Booing is how the fans (who help pay the players salary) let the team know about it. If you go to a concert and the performer screws up every song are you going to sit there and be supportive?
The fans are only garaunteed 8 games a year to see the team play, and for a lot of them the game on Sunday was their only chance. Expect the fans to boo if they don't think they're getting their money's worth out of the players. If players don't like the fans to let them know they are not happy with the way they are performing they should play somewhere where the fans don't show up.
These guys get a lot of money to play a game, you'd think they'd be able to accept some feedback from fans without complaining about it.

I've never been to a Pats game but my post #14 is how I imagine it is.

Who does this guy think he is!
Ellis, when you become at least a pro-bowl caliber player you can start making comments. Right now, all I see is the player who gets beat by every top receiver you try to cover. You make one decent play and you’re jumping up and down beating your chest like you won the super bowl. You are nothing but a hot dog, its players like you that are starting to bring this team down.
Just shut up and take it like a man, like the classy players we have on this team. The teams that won super bowl here, were classy, do their job, no trash talking, professionals. They now seem to have more and more punks showing up there and it is starting to make a different.

As a lifelong Pats/Boston sports fan, I hate to say it but I have to agree with the comments that Pats fans largely come across as spoiled and moronic nowadays. Too often they're sitting on their hands waiting for something good to happen instead of being vocal and attempting to be the 12th man. Plus, knowledgeable fans in other stadiums know to quiet down when the home team is in the red zone so the offense can hear the QB clearly and be as distracted -- Pats fans are quiet most of the time then get loud when the Pats are in the red zone! Duh! Then when the opposing team has the ball you can practically hear a pin drop.

Nobody likes to drop $100 per ticket to see a crappy game, but get over it. It happens. Don't act like Ellis Hobbs just insulted your mother.

Hobbs, take it to your boss. I went to a local bar to watch NFL sunday ticket, and watched the entire game. Granted that's because I live in VA, but even if I were in New England, I'd have watched the whole game on TV... just like hundreds of thousands of other people in New England who ARE in love with this teams, and although they may have broken say a remote or 2, and thrown a few choice words out there, they would have never boo'd in the stadium. But they are not in the stadium because your owners care more about money than about getting the fans that should be in the stadium in the stadium. So yes, you did deserve to get boo'd because in the current ticketing situation, you are bringing in the rich snobs who are paying to see the best team in the league.

Hobbs is right on the money. It's embarrassing to see the types of "fans" that go to Pats games these days. They don't make any noise and sit around just expecting an easy win. The spoiled idiots at Gillette yesterday that felt the need to boo the team for its first regular season loss in 22 games should be ashamed and give up their tickets for future games so the real fans can get in.

I'm with Ian and everyone who agreed with Ellis.

I was fortunate to be at the game. Not everyone can afford it. It is hard to get tickets. And not all fans have access due to where they live. This has all been covered.

Obviously, we all have the *right* to boo or cheer. But I was next to Dolphins fans. And not nice out-here-to-support-my-favorite-team-on-the-road fans. Very annoying fans, in fact. I'm all for supporting your team. I would feel lucky to root for the Pats in any stadium, but I wouldn't be a jerk to the folks sitting next to me. fjakl Smile, be nice, conversational, cheer for your team, but don't try to instigate fights. This brings me to our *right*. Yes. But let us exercise our rights by supporting our team. You may think that spending $100 (or however much your ticket cost) bought you a win or at least a "good game". Actually, all you pacover charge for a show. There are no refunds, unfortunately, for whether you judged it a good show or a bad show. You can tell them by booing, I suppose. Or, more significantly, you not buy a ticket to the next show.

Again, I was fortunate to be there. I clapped for my team to show my support, despite being down. I stayed to the bitter end. And I refrained from throwing anything at the over-the-top Dolphins fans who claimed that Gillette was now the new home for the Dolphins. Though, I suppose that is one way to leave early and "beat the traffic" after you escorted out.

Booing is part of losing. If you don't like how it sounds, don't lose. Seriously, booing is how a fan expresses displeasure. I don't know any fan of the Patriots (or any other team for that matter) who can sit there, watch that pitiful display of football and not boo. Are we supposed to cheer? Are we supposed to sit there like statues and be quiet? In Boston, we demand more from our sports teams.

To Hobbs: What the Patriots have accomplished since Bledsoe went down has been amazing; however, every year is a different year. You can't go out there and play like crap and expect that the successes of the past will carry you. This is a new year. Every game is a new game with a new gameplan. You work in a Belichickian system. You should know that. Take pride in what you have accomplished, but take responsibility when you & the team don't perform to the standards that you yourselves have set.

Richard Seymour echoed a similar message a few years ago after the Pats lost first game following the 3rd SuperBowl to the Chargers. Seymour was a bit more direct about acknowledging that was in fact upset with the fans. That was another injury plagued season.

There are two sides. Are they allowed to have bad games as human beings? Yes. Does everyone realize this season is going to be much more difficult? Absolutely. At the same time, I'm not exactly sure what type of reaction you SHOULD have as a fan who paid the crazy ticket prices they ask for. You go to a game for the thrills but primarily to see a win.

Hobbs:

The fans would cheer the team if they left it all out on the field, fought hard but came up a bit short. Yesterday's performance was a disgrace for the lack of effort, passion and respect for the jersey. Tell Mo Money Seymour that the next time he hold out looking for more green he can stay gone. He demands top $$$ but doesn't make himself accountable for when he doesn't step up.

New England fans are a disgrace, many of which jumped on the Pats bandwagon in 01, Sox in 04 and Celts this year. Get a life, you bunch of wankers! Support your team when they need it. They'll be there at the end of the season. I saw the Pats spank Green Bay at Lambeau a couple years ago. Those fans are a class act- their team was horrible but they kept it in perspective and treated the NE fans like they were part of the family. Get behind your clubs or dig all your Cowboys, Yankees and Lakers gear out, you bunch of posers.

Ellis,

The team didn't have a bad day, they didn't show up. The lack of effort deserves to be booed all day long.

You don't want to get booed? Don't give up 38 points and 460 yards of offense to one of the worst offenses in the league.

Patriots teams of the past have nothing to do with how crappy they played yesterday. I don't see how prior success factors into the equation.

The only person acting spoiled here is Ellis Hobbs.

The pats fans and the yankees fans go hand in hand, they are all the same. When things go bad they boo the team and when things go good they have been fans all their lives. I have talked to many pats fans after this loss and all they have to say is "we have 3 super bowls, how many does your team have?". That is hilarious to me because it is those same fans that complain about yankees fans talking about their 26 titles. The bottom line is we will see who the true fans are because the Pats suck this year, the defense is old and cannot carry the team as much as they need them to. The pats cannot start any game poorly because Cassell is not going to be able to bring this team back. The pats will miss the playoffs, then we can see who the true fans are.

Shut your big mouth Munroe you dumb friggin' clown. As usual, you have yet to indicate who you’re a fan of, probably some fickle Yankee fan from New York who leaves in the 7th inning of a game when it appears to be out of hand. The majority of us REAL fans did not jump on the Pats bandwagon in 2001, we where there for them since 1960 and endured 41 years of sub .500 seasons. Or wait 86 years for the Sox to win the series and still had faith when they were down 3-0 to the so called Yankmees. You seem to not realize that Redsox fans travel better than ANY other professional team in this country amongst the 4 major sports. We’ll cheer or boo any time we d*mn well please since we’re the ones who are paying the money to support our teams so we have every right to do so. Hobbs is the only moron whining about getting booed but mostly every player in this town says we’re the greatest fans in the world. There’s a reason for it but you can’t get it through your thick skull.

Go run your mouth at Fenway or Gillete with another team’s jersey on, continue to run your mouth saying this nonsense and then see what happens. Get a life you loser.

I drove from Nova Scotia to watch that game, and it was pretty depressing. Yet, it shocked me how the fans reacted, leaving in the 3rd quarter and all of the boos. Glad I went to the BC game on Saturday to see Boston fans at their best.

The makeup of people going to Pats games has changed in the last 10 or so years. It's an odd mix of corporate wankers and punk 20-somethings that rack up their credit card to pay a ridiculous price on stub hub and drink way too much. I'm sorry, but many of these people almost seem to take pride in their tough guy ignorance. I think this is the way Mass is becoming in general though. Certainly much less respect and much more entitlement.

NEVER EVER BOO your team at home. PERIOD

I don't see the big deal about fans booing when the home team is mailing it in, which is what yesterday looked like for the Pats. Losing is one thing, but getting whipped is another. Fans wouldn't boo if the game was competitive. In fairness to Hobbs, he had a good game returning kickoffs, but he's also being paid to cover receivers. If that performance yesterday didn't deserve some razzing, then I don't know what would. Maybe a 50-3 loss to the Texans or something?

One other thing. The Pats play eight home games a year excluding playoffs. They've got six left to play. If they play like they did on Sunday in any of the remaining games, they're going to hear it. Ellis Hobbs might not like it, but that's the way it goes.

It was a terrible loss, yes, but boo-ing, home team or visitors is always a pathetic, classless move. And Hobbs is right - the fans are spoiled. A true fan SUPPORTS their team no matter what & no matter how much they pay for a ticket! Like Hobbs said, doesn't everyone have a bad day at the office? Brad in CA says " Most of the D and the entire O-Line should be embarrassed to take a check for yesterdays effort or lack there of!!!" .. Really, Brad? When you have a bad day at work (you do work, I assume?) do you tell your boss/company to keep the paycheck? Get a grip fans! While we are one of the greatest teams in franchise history, there are still going to be bad games. Get over it. Support your team or move on .. No team needs fair weather fans.

I think it was a planned loss so there wouldn't be more talk of another undefeated season and less pressure.

Booing your own team is wrong in any case. The way these guys have played in the last 8-10 years makes it even more ridiculous. Losing happens, bad games happen, the fans who boo are a bunch of losers. Too bad it reflects on all of us. By the way, if the tickets are too much money, don't go. If people smarten up and stop paying the outrageous prices, the ticket price will start to go down. Keep paying ridiculous amounts of money and they will keep going up. Simple economics. By the way, it'll never happen, so save some money, buy a big screen TV, and stop your bellyachin!

The majority of posts agreeing with Hobbs' sentiments are mind boggling. To suggest that fans who boo are "bandwagon" or "not real fans" or that you are embarrassed by fans who boo is just plain stupid and shows which fans truly are the arrogant snobs. No one who booed at the game is "panicking" or jumping off the bandwagon. They were just pissed about the team's performance yesterday. It was a very reasonable reaction. If you don't feel the need to boo, then don't, but as long as other fans aren't being profane, you don't have anything to complain about. There has been booing at every professional sporting venue in the world, so let's not act like it doesn't exist in some places (where "true" fans are). Philadelphia fans aren't a disgrace because they boo...they are a disgrace because they throw batteries at players (jd drew) and applaud when rival players get injured (michael irvin).

And to those fans who say, "you need to stick by OUR TEAM!!!" Please shut up. The pats went into half time yesterday knowing full well that they weren't as ready to play that game as miami was. The booing didn't help them acknowledge that and "sticking by them" wouldn't have given them more confidence coming out for the second half. These are professionals. You can cheer all you want if it makes you feel like a great fan, but the players couldn't care less. Hobbs' comments show how much respect athletes actually have for the fans.

Are Boston fans a little spoiled? Yes we are. How could we not be with all of the success our teams have had in this decade? I'm just waiting for the Bruins to win the Cup in 2009 to complete the square.

So we have higher expectations and that may not be fair to the players. Ellis is probably right in everything that he is saying. Its not surprising that he gets a little jaded by fan reaction given the locker room environment that Belichick creates to motivate his players.

Jeez, I read all the posts and had to go back to re-read what Hobbs said.
You guys consider that whining? I thought it was to the point. He never said the fans didn't have the right to boo them, and never said they left it all on the field either. It's true, all of you who are running down Cassell, leaving early, and booing can do just that...Have a ball...it's your money. You'll all be the "greatest Pats fans" alive when they're winning. Just like Ellis said. They're last home loss was like what...three years ago? Oh yeah, we're not acting like spoiled whiners at all. Sometimes I think we have all turned into pre '04 Yankee fans.

Sorry the Pats sucked and you all got ripped off. Who do they think they are anyways?...ruining your Sunday like that. They should be ashamed and go sign Daunte Culpepper right now.

Sheesh!

I agree with hobbs....us fans are spoiled. The cost of a ticket does not guarantee that the game you go to will be a win. Its the cost of the entertainment of it. Its embarrassing to me how some of us fans react when there is a bad play or a bad game. I have no doubts that every person on this team works their butts off for the fans and the patriots organization. I have had bad days at my job...no one boo's me! I take responsiblity for it, correct the issues and move on. When fans boo their own team it becomes an us and them situation. I thought we were all suppose to be on the same side here! We get enough bs from all the hatriots outside of new england. Don't you think we could all stick together here even when its hard? Geesh! Let show some support and act like proud fans of a great organization instead of turning on them the second things get tough!

i too was disapointed with the booing. if the crowd was more into the game in the 2nd half it would of gone a long way. indys crowd was huge when they cameback vs the pats. down 21-6 and cheering like a blowout. don't trash hobbs because that game is 38-3 without hobbs playing.

2008 Miami Dolphins > 2008 New England Patriots

"Ellis, one of the biggest things to be booed is that you are the poorest tackling cornerback in the NFL " you are an idiot chris. he is one of the best tacklers on the team. hobbs is very underated. he only gave up 53% of passes thrown at him last year better than 160 corners thrown at 30+ times. he is usually matched up vs the better reciever even when asante was around. hobbs is a much better tacklers than samuel.

Once upon a time there were quarterbacks named Babe Parilli then Mike Taliaffero (pronounced Tolliver) he would pass to Gino Capaletti, then there was the combination of Jim Plunkett and Randy Vataha. They had a new statium called Shaefer. We moved up to Steve Grogan, Russ Francis and a host of medium quality running backs. Never won much until Chuck Fairbanks hit town. Then he dropped the news just before the playoffs that he was leaving. Heartbreak upon heartbreak.
In all that time I don't remember hearing a Boo or seeing fans leave during a bad game.
Today we are spoiled. We expect pro-Bowl caliber play on every down. We expect perfect game plans with rock wall defense and a lethal offense.
Maybe a year of struggle will bring the real Patriot fans out leaving the boo birds at home.

I STAY AWAKE ALL NIGHT IN INDIA WATCHING THIS GAME (VIA SLING BOX) AND I WAS SICK WITH THE FANS YESTERDAY. BOOING A TEAM WHICH GAVE US CONSISTENT WINNING PERFORMANCE FOR 7 YEARS? WORST FANS IN THE WHOLE OF NFL.

AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR TEAM WE ARE BOOING IT. WHAT A SHAME PATRIOT FANS... PLEASE SELL YOUR SEASON TICKETS TO MORE DESERVING FANS AND GET OUT OF THE TOWN AND SUPPORT THE LIONS, YOU DO NOT DESERVE A BETTER TEAM

It was bound to happen, a bad loss, especially with number 12 hurt. I can remember when the Patriots ditched Lawyer Milloy and got killed the first game at home versus Buffalo, i think it was 35-0. Booing your home team is only acceptable if your a Browns, Raiders or Bengals fan.

Ellis,
Ignore those who booed. Not all NE fans are like them. I saw the game on t.v., and though i was disappointed, I realized the NFL is a tough league and you can't always win every game. I like to see the Patriots face adversity and not win every game by 20. It will make this season very interesting. I grew up in another NFL city and we could never win anything. After moving here and following this team for the past 10 years with 5 superbowl appearances, I can't believe how lucky I am. My friends back in the ol' home town hate football now. So despite Sunday's loss, I say thank you Patriots for giving us great football for so many years.
... and the next time we play the Dolphins and Pennington lines up as a receiver, go smack the sh*t out of him!

And here I thought that the booing was just not going for a hail Mary to end the half.

Ellis Hobbs is a legend in his own mind. Maybe someday he'll be half the player he thinks he is, but I doubt it. Ellis, save your money, man, because this time next year you'll be on the waiver wire. And then you'll have nothing but your big mouth.

I been a Fan since Jim Plunkett was our quarterback. Seen this team through thick and thin.

My kids and I even went to Foxboro to cheer them home after we lost to Green Bay in the Super Bowl.
I say there was maybe 1,000 people there that day. Wagon Jumpers they should have switched jerseys at half time and show thier true colors.

I grew up in Wakefield and have been a Boston Sports fan for over 45 years. I moved to the San Francisco area and always defended the Boston fan as the most knowledgable fans, and always were into the team play, and it was about winning championships, not stats, and being undefeated. I moved back for six months a year ago in June. The Sox were great and everyone seemed into it and wanted to win. Then the Pats with there new Peyton Manning open it up offense happened. We thru the whole playbook out for all to see, and blew everyone away, and by midseason everyone knew are total game plan. All the fans and the late afternoon guys on Weei started pissing me off. All they talked about was 19-0, Moss and Brady breaking all these stupid records. I knew we were in trouble. I Boston's true sports knowledge in general was gone. There still a lot of you here who know their stuff and want a true winner, and as Red Auerbach always said, stats were for losers, Russell says it's not how many rebounds you get but when you get them. Moss began to disappear down the stretch and into the playoffs. Great players make great plays. I saw Jerry Rice do it for years in SF. Everyone is expecting last year. They stunk last year as the stretch run approached. Even
though they won they were getting beat up all over the place never winning the physical game in the trenches. They became complacent and the O line was sound asleep as Srathan implied in the SB, and all they talked about as the game approached was making history. We always beat the great Miami teams when we stunk, and they have done it to us. I got so sick of the complaining about winning every game and leaving too many plays on the field. It's why I left. I hated Manning's Colts and their great offense, and they blamed the D when they lost in playoffs, and like the Pats of last year, it was their great offense avg of about 11 or 12 points in all their playoff losses over the years. WE scored 14 points?. Wakeup and be a fan interested in playing great football. The Pats SB winners
were a much better offense cause they always stepped up, even their avg receivers. Needless to say I left Boston and will cheer from afar.

Post# 14 and 26, JG here is a tip, don't bother coming to Gillete, you sound like a piece of terd!

Ellis you know why Pats fans boo, cause we are blue collar and expect more then a half ass effort

Maybe the fans are spoiled, but Hobbs is the last player who should be yapping.

It looked like they started the bye a week too soon.

Patriots Fans - be true; show class, have dignity and SHOW SUPPORT.

The Yankees dissed Joe Torre.

We are not like the Yankees.

We will overcome and win again..

HAVE FAITH!
GO PATS!

Are the fans spoiled? Definitely especially the 'pink helmet' fans that have come around since we started winning Super Bowls.

However the team deserved to be booed. They were freaking awful. Hobbs should be man enough to admit that. Everyone knows that both the team and the fans are not going to have a fun year but if the fans are going to show up than the team should show up too.

I disagree with most comments. The booing was well justified. It is not just the end result, it was how it was delivered. The defense was pathetic. The line couldn't stop water. The coaching was horrendous (reminded me of the Super Bowi) when we were ill prepared and made no adjustments. The defensive line could not stop water, the corner backs, especially Ellis Hobbs, plays too far off the receiver. How cn you not know what is coming with Ronnie Brown lined up by himself in the backfield and Pennington at the WR spot. My 7 year old nephew figured that one out.

"Manny" Moss should be suspended without pay for 4 games. For the past 2 games he has quit on Matt Cassel. He trots, insteas of runs. He had one perfect pass yesterday that he made no effort to even lift his arms and hands for. He doesn't block on run plays, just stands there, giving away what the play is. He should not be a captain, because he is not a leader. The real Randy is on the Patriots this year, not the one Tom Brady made into a star last year.

The offensive play calling lacks imagination and is very predictable. For the money these players make, they should have been booed yesterday. Randy Moss should turn his paycheck back in, or donate it to charity, because he certainly didn't earn one dime.

I can see this season turning into a disaster and the cancer that will ruin the season is Moss. He is not a "team" player and does not belong being a Patriot any longer. I hope the veterans take him aside and in no uncertain terms tell him like it is, and if he is going to go through the motions the rest of the year and destroy whatever chance Matt Cassel has to succeed, then he has no place in New England. I say trade him now while his value is high and get somebody, like Wes Welker who appreciates being a Patriot.

The coaching has to get better. Just as in the Super Bowl game, we were outcoached on both sides of the ball yesterday.

Jules Vern - you are just like the Yankees, except that when the Patriots circle back towards the bottom of the league no one will come to your games any more. The myth of the Patriot fans being the best in the NFL is such a joke that it barely deserves comment.

Well, I just loved the whole game!! Do you know how long I have waited for this day to come? You all know the answer to that. I have holes in my ceiling from jumping up and down. I lost my voice from screaming like a freaking maniac. I am enjoying this win. The Dolphins played some football, finally. It has been so..... long....., I will take it and enjoy. Thanks dolfins. Job well done. Pats fans I know how you feel. I know how a beating feels. I have more than you, so appreciate your team in the good and bad.

Ridiculous comments for the most part. How anyone in there right mind can expect cheers from that sorry performance? People get a clue. This is professional football. When a team wins they get cheers. When a team comes out and plays with a total lack of effort, they should and did get booed.

This is the way it is in EVERY frigin town. If I performed like that on my job, I would get a written reprimand and more than likely get fired! Multi-million dollar athletes are paided to put out maximum effort. This patriots team is NOT like the classy champions of the past. They make excuses and cry to the media. Suck it up hobbs and shut your mouth!

Ellis Hobbs- All I have to say, I have been a Patriots fan longer than you have been alive, through many awful years when I wouldn't think of booing. "Why?" Because the Jim Plunketts and Randy Vatahas of the world were giving their very best week in and week out. THey just didn't have the talent on those teams.

You get booed when you have the ability and waste it. This team looked ill prepared yesterday and going through the motions. The coaching offered no solutions and "Manny" MOss is a quitter. He quit on Matt Cassel starting last game. He doesn't run his routes, he is jogging in slow motion. He doesn't run or block on running plays, giving away what the play will be to the defense. YOu play too far off the receiver and are always givng up 8 and 9 yard pass plays.

The Patriots are one of the highest priced teams in the NFL. I cannot afford to go to more than one game a year any more. So, I have a right when my hard earned money, which is far less than you make, for having a "bad day" to not appreciate a lack of effort. You ran the ball well on kickoffs, but that is where the game ended for the Pats. I feel sorry for Matt Cassel. He tried his best, but the offensive game plan was predictable and set him up for failure, as did #81.

I am a life long NE sports fan, and I have to say that I was embarrassed when I heard about people booing the Pats at halftime. For all the idiots posting things about Hobbs shame on you!!! What never had a bad day?? I mean come on....are people really that ignorant that they try to compare a job working in an office to pro football!!! And to those who want to say "it happens in every city!" What a moronic statement that is....this isn't just any city, fool!! Seven Superbowls played this decade Pats go to four out of those seven and won three of them didn't lose a regular season game last year......one bad game and you think it's ok to boo them because they're getting paid big money!!!! Don't worry Pats Players all you heard was the drunken idiots at the game. Us true fans know how good we have it(even with Brady out) and we love you all for it!!!

You paid for the right? If you say so. Seems pretty lame, paying for the "right" to boo your own team.
New England unfortunately now has lots of bandwagon fans, spoiled by winning. Not real fans at all. Just rude spoiled mannerless whiners.
True fans don't boo their own team. The folks I heard still cheering even later in the game, those are fans.
I once watched Steve Grogan and Co. get plastered by Jim Kelly and the BIlls, in the rain and the mud. I didn't hear any booing. All I heard was cheering and shouts of support.
Ellis, you say what you want. Some of us will always support you, and all the Patriots, up or down.

All of you saints who don't boo when your team doesn't perform are ridiculous for scolding others. For those lucky enough to be able to afford a ticket -t hey damn sure have the right to boo a guy making $3 million a year for stinking it up against the worst team in football. Give me a break! Ellis - go stuff your ears with the $100 bills you line your pockets with. Just because you boo doesn't make you an ungrateful fan.....does your boss come and cheer you when you do a crappy job?

I don't agree with this booing crap at all. Its because of the rich tirds coming in due to the increase with the ticket prices...sports fans in Boston are not the same as they used to be. I remember before the redsox had won the series against the cardinals, the fans were the old die hards. Its the same thing with the patriots. Now we got all these PINK hat fans coming in that don't know crap about the heart breakers us true fans have been through. The atmosphere has completely changed. When I go home on leave to watch a game I can totally notice the difference. Screw the pink hats and all the naysayers! This decade New England sports have done nothing but spoil us. I hope these fans will smarten up but I don't think things will change anytime soon. Screw all you pink hats get outa new england!

duuuuude, i think everyone needs to calm down. EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THIS WORLD ALWAYS HAS A BAD SEASON. honestly, id like to see half the people saying all of this crap try and play on the patriots team. yeah, i dont think youll be handle the pressure. so like stop talking about how bad they suck. sorry if everyone doesn't live up to YOUR expectations.

I agree with post #42
You yell to rally the home team
The Patriots have lost one regular season game in 2 years. This is no time to be booing, but a time to rally behind the team!

Its not right to boo a team just because it loses or losses big. But when your team is embaressed by the worst team in the league, the patriots deserved to be booed because of there very very poor play.
PS- Ellis Hobbs can be any smaller. Nice work with the kick returns though.

Hey, Hobbs ... just shut up. You had an exceptional kick-off return game yesterday, but that doesn't give you the right to criticize the fans who PAY YOUR SALARY. Guess what, little boy, I've been a Patriots season ticket holder LONGER THAN YOU HAVE BEEN ALIVE!! If I want to boo, I'm going to boo ... I've PAID for the right to boo a team that SUCKED as badly as you did yesterday. And, for all the wannabees whining about 'give up your season tickets to the real fans' ... I've put my money where my mouth is for 25+years, what about you?? First of all, you'll need $1700 per year, per ticket, because that's what it costs these days. Second, assuming that you have that kind of cash in your passbook savings account (and that's a big 'if'), where were you during those 1-15 and 2-14 seasons, when the team's season ticket base was almost nothing, when I was the ONLY ONE sitting in my row in the old stadium?? That's what I thought ... you were sitting at the bar, complaining about the 'Patsies' and spending your money on 25-cent drafts instead of game tickets ... but today, you're the team's 'Biggest Fan.' Give me a break ...

Ellis Hobbs - the same Ellis Hobbs who was BEATEN LIKE A RENTED MULE for the Super Bowl-losing touchdown - is the epitome of today's rich, spoiled, prima-donna athletes who want the money and the glory ... but none of the blame. Ellis The Great should ask a few has-beens such as John Hannah or Steve Grogan or Stanley Morgan if they ever complained about the boos ... they'll all him tell one thing. Shut up, do your job and count your blessings ... if you play hard, the cheers will follow.

I say... if you don't like what you are seeing at the game... give up your season tickets. There are plently of REAL fans that would like to be there to support the team.

I think all the booing is embarrassing. Seriously, it's like all the Pats fans instantly became Jet fans. They should be ashamed.

Maybe if the fans cheered and supported the team,. they would have been more likely to rally. It couldn't have hurted. I KNOW I've never seen a team actually do better once the fans start booing.

Mr Hobbs. . . not a good way to connect with the fans. Fans boo for a reason. Fans are human, just like players are human. This disconnect can't happen or the NFL will start to look like the NBA. Us vs them.

Just throwing my 2 cents in.....

Having been a long time fan I was sincerely disappointed in yesterdays game. While I hung my head low most of the day & monday I did not boo. Never.

However, I would like to say the other side has a point to.
This is a business. You pay a ton of money to see them play.
They get paid a ton of money to play. To get our emotions riled up.
How can you be surprised if an emotional person boos?

And don't compare this to High School football.
You go to those games because they're your family. Your town, your neighbors.
You go to those games for the love of it and they play it for the love of it.
Booing those kids is booing your family. You support your family no matter what.
Same with college. They're your kids or your classmates.

The NFL is a business. The players, coaches and management all come and go.
They're NOT family.
You can say you bleed Patriot blood, they're not YOUR family no matter how long you've been watching them.

Hence the problem, some have been watching them for so long they think they are family. They remember the day when free agency didn't exist. When players played their entire career for 1 team and you developed a bond for these people.

But times have changed. It's not like the anymore.
So you're emotional, your angry, your disappointed and you know they're not REALLY family. So,,,,sometimes you're going to boo.

But like I said, I didn't boo.

I can't believe the stuff I'm reading on here. Fans spoiled? Maybe...but if your team claims to be the model franchise and the Defense puffs out it's chest every week, living on their reputation from 2 years ago, I will boo my @ss off when said Defense gets torn to shreds by a terrible team.

To Hobbs: You are the single, worst player on the 4 major Boston sports teams that starts. I'm sure your small, 5' 7" frame celebrates every time you successfully pull your jersey over your head. Please make a big play in a big game, then multiply that by 10. Then you can start complaining.

Let's face the reality: This Defense is simply. not. good. They are too old in too many positions. The young guys they have (Meriweather, Hobbs, Sanders) are not making plays. Name one playmaker in the secondary. Can't, because they're all gone. The D-Line needs to be booed, maybe that's the kick in the rear they need. I laugh everytime someone says they're the "best D-Line in the league.

Maybe i

I for one am not impressed with the fans at Foxboro, to say they often look stiff and lack the insanity of fans from other teams is an understatement. As for those who booed at the Patriots loss, you really are spoiled and disrespectful to a team that has given you so much victory. For those that are never done griping about the price of tickets, put a sock in it, nobody is holding a gun to your head. If there so expensive get rid of them. If you are going to go to the game, be aware that the rest of the nation is watching you. The message you gave Sunday was that of a bunch of arrogant, spoiled, jerks. For those who have passion at every game no offense, if the shoe fits wear it, if not Rock On.

Some people are unbelievable on this board. First of all, this issue should be the last thing on Pat's fans minds at the moment. I would think most of you would be more concerned with the defense or lack of explosive offense instead of fans reactions to a HORRIBLY played game. How can you say people that boo are giving up on the team? That is the most asinine statement you could make. You get booed for a poor performance. They played like crap. If they were losing by 7 at halftime would they get booed? I highly doubt it. But when you get outplayed, outcoached and outworked in the first half, you deserve to get booed. Stop whining about people booing. They paid they have the right. Anyone that links booing to giving up on the team is missing part of their brain.

For people suggesting the fans are there to rally the team: it's hard to stand up and cheer your head off when the team ISNT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT. The team is out there to give the fans something to cheer for and about. These players are making millions of dollars to play this game and when they put out the effort and get outworked and outplayed like that, the fans booing should be the last thing on people's minds. I'm sure that cheering to rally the team while down 20+ points would have definitly made the defense stop Ronnie Brown running over them. Everyone suggesting that booing is a sin should go back to little league.

Finally, for those saying the fans aren't loud, don't blame it on the fans. I've been a season ticket holder for over 40 years and that stadium gets loud during all big games. Blame the lack of noise on Kraft and his design of the stadium. It holds no noise in so everything just escapes out the endzones and up and away.

Most of you people need to get a clue.

Posts 72 and 73...you two are dopes. G-Man, you don't pay for the right to boo. It's a right. When you spend a paycheck to watch a football game and the home team doesn't bother showing up then there is some serious incentive to exercise that right. Cute grogan story too...

And scottprim, are you really scolding people for booing? "shame on you!!" Grow up. Hobbs was quoted as analogizing his job with an ordinary desk job, so maybe it's not so ignorant to make that comparison. And for the last time, booing does happen in every city. It's just booing. It's true that we have been spoiled this decade, hence why a story on fans booing even made it into the Globe.

If posting online that you would not boo the godsent patriots makes you feel like a superior fan then fine, congrats. You really are a "true fan." But if you went to a Springstein concert and he got on stage and forgot the words to all his songs, you'd probably have no problem with fans booing him.

We didn't set the standard here, Bob Kraft did. We now pay the highest ticket prices in the league. We have the right to boo anytime we want for the money we pay. We are suppose to be supporting a football team not a shopping mall and Kraft Sports Group.

It was 75 degrees and the stadium water fountains did not work again on Sunday. I will never ever spend another dime over my tickets ever again on this greedy selfish owner. I got Patriot Place discounts in the mail because I'm a season ticket holder. Bob, I got news for you. Keep it !

There was no excuse for the defense on Sunday. They got torched. Pats fans were booing because the team looked unprepared and out coached. When that happens, you can expect booing.

All of you that booed at the game should be ashamed of yourselves. What a disgusting display of entitlement you people showed. The Patriots are dealing with a great deal of adversity right now yet you people expect the team to just pick up where they left off without their best player. Stop being whiny little itches and show some class and not to mention respect for those players that have to pick up the slack.

Jules... great post.

Booing the team is rude. Support your team or give your seats to someone who will.

I can think of only one instance when booing your team would be appropriate: when they cheat.

Fans are allowed to booo because of the money they paid. But Hobbs is right. After all there success the fans booed to damn early and shouldn't have left the game. We know the team is hurt with Brady out so why are the game fans kicking them when they are down? The fans deserve the same failing grade for there performance on Sunday.

Players could care less about the booing of idiotic fans....they get the big money win or lose....and you the booing fan lose all the time with the high ticket prices its a shame that most true fans cant even get a ticket to see the game because of the rich and spoiled boo birds....GO PATRIOTS!!

To Allen #31 feel free to talk about the "Dolphin" fans who sat next to ya and talked crap, at least you only have it once a season or maybe two, im a dolphin season ticket holder and so many of you northeast invaders have moved to south fla because they lacked ability to survive up there, yet when there "team" comes to town (which is just about every week, i have to put up with intensely obnoxious behavior, week in and week out, whether it is you patriot fans, or the bills fans or the stinking lousy J-E-T-S fans who (suck,suck,suck,btw) i have to deal with it week in and week out, sooo if you only have to deal with it once a year, consider yourself very lucky

What a bunch of whiny pathetic know nothing fans.........

booing the first loss in nearly 2 years / I've never heard something so assinine in my life.

go cry in ya spilled beer and complain about liking apples.

Sorry Hobbs..
Bottom line is the New England fanbase is garbage. I love the franchise and the team, but the fanbase is one of the worst in the NFL. Most fans have a gloat if we win and boo if we lose mentality. During this season the season ticket waiting list will thin out. The ticket prices to gillette will drop. Which are both good things for me, but really pathetic of a fanbase.

Great game Sunday Hobbs, hope to see many more from ya.

I can see winning 3 super bowls has made people mighty self righteous, and also rottted out there memories, yes pats fans are spoiled but spare me all this " I was a pats fan since the 70s( so was I) and we never ever booed our boys and me and my 5 buddies were the only ones went to the old stadium and gave a crap about the team that is bs and you all know it(nobody booed tony eason or irving fryar?, did i miss all the nonstop ovations for tony collins?) give me a breack you bunch of liars!! go find youre memories of what it was really like back then.

Ellis I have news for you when you suck you get booed its kinda a universal thing now.

this isnt new...you dont play well you get booed especially in boston...they deserved it period ellis should concentrate on his job...if he covered plaxico a little better last year he might be a superbowl champion...could be a long time before that chance comes again. just do your job...

A Bad day at the office gets you roundly criticized. A bad day at the office where you show up and then to fail to do your job, just go through the motions and do absolutely NOTHING can get you fired.

The Pats deserved to be booed. They showed ZERO emotion. They just gave up. Player after player failed to do their jobs. No one was there to pick the team up and try to motivate themselves. The play calling was predictable. Without Brady to make Josh look good we are seeing just how bad a play caller he is. 2nd down and long, run!

And for those who thought Hobbs was going all out, I have news for you. He is awful. Giving ten yard cushions, and then the receiver waits for him to commit to the long ball, then turn and make a ten yard completion. He can be exploited all day long.

If the Pats are just going to give up, then put O'Connel in. At least we get to see if he can make it in the NFL. The Pats had no business losing to the Phins, never mind getting spanked by them. There is too much talent on this team to excuse a performance like that.

Hobbs is pretty thin skin skinned if he cant deal with the boo birds. Face the facts, the Patriots played awful and the fans let them know it.

Leaving the game early is not the same thing. That is a disgrace and I agree that those fans are the bandwagoners people are upset about.

When the Kraft Family itself closes down their "owner's box" and flee from viewing the debacle of a contest for most of the 4th quarter last Sunday, then they too should be exposed as fair weather fans. Not a sole was sitting in those owner seats for much of the game's last quarter? Possibly went indoors for tea and crumpets or wanted to beat the traffic home themselves? The defense played horribly. The offensive line played horribly. Ronnie Brown had a career day running and throwing a TD to add to the embarrassment. We all have bad days, but when it costs me and my two friends over $500 to attend this game, we have the right to stay to the final whistle (which we did) and to express ourselves in a civil manner to let the team know from the head coach to the water boys they performed putrid Sunday.

I don't understand the low noise level at Gillette ... the Red Sox & Celtics have high ticket prices as well, but probably have 2 of the loudest stadiums in their respective leaugues. I was at the week 1 game the only time you heard any noise at all from the crowd was when the defense was on the field for a 3rd down. It was an embarrassing, lame crowd to say the least.

Yes, you have a right to boo during bad times, but only if you cheer loudly during the good times. Can't have it both ways.

I will reiterate what most of the logical comments have been saying. The fans are well aware that there will be losses this season. However, the performance Sunday, more importantly, an apparent lack of effort is unacceptable from an organization and TEAM that has set their own standards.
I am not surprise at Mr. Hobbs opinions because, as stated in previous comments, he was one of the few players that maintained that standard on Sunday.
What was so shocking, and what I feel generated the booing, was that it was the Defense/ Veterans that disapointed, more is expected from them. Especially when they were quoted last week stating that it was THEIR time to step up with Tom Brady being gone for the season.
Stepping up means effort and execution irregardless of the result, that is what was missing Sunday.
Good luck for the remaining season, I do not believe the Fans have abandoned the team. Some seem to forget, how faithful the fans have been prior to 2001.

NEVER EVER BOO YOUR TEAM..... PERIOD!!!!!......I THINK THAT SUMS IT UP..ANYONE WHO BOOS IS NOT A TRUE FAN....TRUE FANS CHEER AND STAY POSTIVE AND DONT GIVE ME "I PAID MY $$ SO I'M ENTITLED" THATS A NY MOTTO ...GO THERE INSTEAD.....I AM SO PROUN OF WHAT RK, SP AND BB HAVE DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR THE NE FANS IN GENERAL AND IF YOU CANT CHEER FOR THAT WELL THEN YOU SHOULDNT BE A FAN AT ALL GO BE A DETROIT LIONS FAN OR A CLEVELAND BROWS FAN OR WORSE YET A JEST FAN SEE HOW LOSING 10 OR MORE GAMES A YEAR FEELS......BUNCH OF SPOILED BRATS IN NE NOW...ABSOLUTE SHAME!

It's not surprising that the worst fans in the league are Booing after only 1 loss in 21 games...You are a disgrace to fans all around the country!!

You have about as much heart as your players do right now...Example: MOSS

Actually you deserve to not win one more game this season...Maybe it will build character for you as fans...

I was born there and i love my pats.But the fans up there are the worst. 4 trips to the superbowl and three superbowls wins NUMBERS OF NFL RECORDS and you guys boo? Boo yourselves you are the ones who suck... you guys need practice being fans .I dont care what you paid to watch the game. some great players have wanted to come and play for us. Who wants to play for a bunch ungrateful idiot fans . WAY TO GO!!! jerks

Ellis Who...............When you make the Pro Bowl you can Talk. Until then let your Play do your talking..........

#26: I've been to games at the old stadium before. I'm not imagining things. Are you telling me that there are not plenty of open seats in the lower bowl and red club seats? Are you telling me that somehow the stadium can erupt in cheers that are quite loud when there is a touchdown, but at times when the defense is out there you can hear the other team call out audibles?

I don't intend my comment to be a slap to the many real fans (that includes you #62) there at the stadium. Unfortunately, the stadium isn't filled with only those fans every week. I truly believe that the club seats and more expensive seats are mostly owned by people that aren't passionate and posting here. And that's the problem.

I wonder if Ellis told the same thing to BB in the monday meetings.
"Hey coach, everyone has a bad day, take it easy"

So at what point are we patriots fans allowed to boo? cause according to alot of these posts we should just give them a free pass for the superbowl wins and sit and cheer like we are at a North Korean soccer game. I guess selling out the stadium and buying the gear that helped them put that strip mall(patrtiots place) next to the stadium. not to mention having to defend them for over a year against the spygate charges isnt enough for the fans? now we cant boo when they suck?

so I guess we should just be silent when the pats go 7-9 and be thankful and watch the dvds of the superbowls we won back in the day, then we can call ourselves the best fans in sports cause we supported our team :) and all these out of town trolls like "steelersnation" can respect us lol.

ok this whole talk about fans being "spoiled" is in a way true,but with that said that game wasnt a "bad game" it was a complete embarassment you do not go into a game with the attitude the pats had they didnt even look like they wanted to play.Furthermore pats tickets are highest in the league that is our hard earned money being spent on what we think would be hard fought game by our team win or loss but it seemed they just gave up and let miami have the game,your damn right im gonna boo if i see something as pathetic as that.Remember one thing pats went 16-0 last season they got completely embarrassed to a team that went 1-16 lol enough said right there thats a complete disgrace and as a player u should feel embarassed as well when that happens.I can handle a loss to a team such as the colts,chargers,steelers,eagles,cowboys,green bay or any of those upper teams BUT NOT A BOTTOM FEEDER LIKE MIAMI THATS PATHETIC AND AT THAT A BLOW OUT GAME ITS TRULY SAD.And to the other pats fans that dont like the booing and think that they are "true" fans cause they never boo your so full of it its ridiculous ya i bet u never were upset with ur team before and never showed it please U AINT PERFECT EITHER pats fans are very good fans they dedicate there lifes just to watch some games I know i do Ive taken days off just to watch important pats games so dont u dare sit there and tell me im a spoiled and rotten fan cause im far from that.Just remeber your getting paid millions of dollars to do what u love most some of use would be elated just to get a tiny fraction of that so as far as im concerned its the players that are spoiled with riciculous amounts of money being paid to them.

Maybe Ellis should stop dancing after every tackle he's ever made, quit whining, and start playing his position better. Just a thought.

LoL this kind of amusing to see u so called "true" fans talk.You talk about ppl booing and how there not real fans if they do so,lmao ya like you never showed disappointment in the team or never said wtf? this team is talented and should do better.I find it pretty "fake" of u ppl to judge ppl who boo like your a perfect example of what a "true" fan is.Just remember one thing RECORDS AND STATS mean nothing,nothing whatsoever if you lose the game i still here it everyday from other fans of teams out there HAHA!! ur team 18-1 biggest chokes in the world but do i say yes ur right? no i put myself out there to defend my team and what do i get? a**hole players telling me im spoiled,now whose the ones that dont show any graditued?Whoever said winning and losing means nothing should be shot,whats the purpose of getting high profile players? WINNING lol its moronic to think that because they broke records last yr and won 3 superbowls in the past should negate that awful effort and performance that we saw sunday afternoon.I see high school players play harder then that even when it means almost nothing to them because they just want to be called a football player for popularity in school.I play at the moment semi-pro for the hurricanes in nh and I would completley lose my voice from yelling at my teammates not because they lost or got burned or got beat but because they showed no effort whatsoever if you dont want to show up to play and give 110% on every play and every down then as my coach would say get the f*ck out because you do not deserve to play the game.And as far as all this fan talk you are gonna get your share of bandwagon jumpers theres absolutley no way around that,but dont mistaken those that are real fans and do support you no matter what I still support the pats after that sad loss to miami even though they probable dont deserve it because of the lack of effort but i still do,but dont expect me to if i keep seeing no effort as far as im concerned you can have all the talent in the world but if I dont see 110% out of you then you are expendable.I would feel alot better at putting someone in thats gonna give me that effort regardless if they have the talent or not rather then a player thats got all the talent in the world but yet half asses it.

I think the fans have every right to boo pro athletes who look completely disinterested in a game. Its not as if the team just lost a tough game. The defensive was getting pushed around and looked uninspired. The offensive line couldn't block anyone. And Matt Cassel was ugly at best.

I also don't necessarily think fans were booing the players, but the play calling as well. A team that has Randy Moss NEEDS to take a shot downfield occasionally. I have not been impressed with Josh McDaniels play calling at all this season. I'm sure a lot of people who were booing feel the same way. I also wasn't impressed how our defense got shredded every time Pennington was split out. Again, I'm sure a lot of people booing agreed that someone, somewhere should be able to make an adjustment for that. All and all it was an uninspired performance for the players and the coaching staff.

Maybe this team needs to stop believing the hype that they're great. Ellis Hobbs needs to get over himself. We pay big money to go to these games. These guys get big money to play this game. Grow a thicker skin or get out of this market because New England fans will alsways tell you what they think. I was at the BC game Saturday where the fans were chanting for the backup QB to be put in, so it could always be worse Ellis.

there is no excuse for the effort or lack there of put forth by the pats on sunday. theyve given up since at the first sign of cassel's mediocrity. we're spoiled as fans. the pats are spoiled to have tom brady capt of their ship.

Geez, I can't believe it. He is right. Any of your booers ever palyed a game competively? Morons. I hated see the Pats loose, I hated to seem them manhandled. But this happens. You are on the field, you try your hardest and it doesn't work. Players are human, to dig yourself out of a hole during a game is the hardest thing. And sometimes you simply can't get out. Don't talk about showing up, cause you never ever had to show up!
How can a true fan leave before the final whistle is blown. It ain't over thill the fat lady sings. Booing in the first half, GIVE ME AN EFFING BREAK!
Can all the idiots who left early please give their season ticket back so I can get mine.
please.

In Bill I trust! Go Pats! Go Hobbs, give them Hell.

... but do me one favour and bring Junior back!

I was at the game Sunday and I thought it terrible that fans booed the team off the field. I think we've been spoiled with so many wins. It was clear that the team was struggling. I don't think that's the time to boo. Sure, I think they made mistakes and it wasn't a great game in that way, but that's exactly when we need to help them rally and cheer them on. As I watched all those people streaming out at the start of the 4th quarter, it's easy to support the team when they're winning; it's a lot harder to do it when they're losing but that's exactly when they need the support. I sure hope we don't see that kind of fan behavior again. Come on, Pats Fans - develop a thicker skin and support your team!

First of all, I was at the game Sunday, and did not boo....
With that said, I feel like Ellis is WAYYY off base here.

This is the SAME Ellis Hobbs we see in all those Plaxico Burress highlight reels, right? He DID give up a Super Bowl-winning catch, right?

The Pats have been one of the greatest dynasties in all our lifetimes, but the fact that the team is coming off THE MOST DISAPPOINTING SEASON IN SPORTS HISTORY is the reason why he should shut his mouth and play better football, because he is a big reason last year was such a disappointment.

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I think the booing was for the trash talking Porter's predictions coming true.
I can not imagine the NE fans at Gillette would boo the Pats when it was so obvious the team was just not in snyc individually (except for Ellis Hobbs) or as a team. Those of us at home were stunned as well and booed the antics and show boating of Porter.

The fans weren't booing, they were saying "Bruuuuuuuschi."