Pats get three compensatory picks

"Three third-round selections "

You mean:
"Three second-round selections

Cheers. :)

whoooaaa!!! .12 picks!!!, and with belichick making those picks!...sweeet!!!!!!!!

This better be a great draft.

they have three 2nd rounders Mike, not 3rd as this story suggests

how many 2nd round picks???

just sayin'.

Typo on the Three "Second Round" Selections, not Third :)

Sweet thats sic how year in year out we find ways to make even more ppl hate us!!!! I luv it

Great news, but surely you mean three second round picks? Also, what do we think the chances are of the Pats packaging some of these picks? And will we FINALLY get some secondary help this year?

I think you mean 3 second-round picks.

Mike I think you mean three 2nd round selections.

This is a huge draft for the Pats. They need to get some good young players, so they don't start to slide. 6 picks out of the first 100 is very exciting.

Good catch on it being 11, not 12, picks overall. I'm guessing that the 5th-rounder traded to Philly got counted at first.

hey so how about we all read that mike's typo has been pointed out for 25 minutes now by 7 different people... just saying...

lucic, well said. I think Mike gets everyone's point.

Justin Marble--

Finally get secondary help? The team is bringing in new depth in the backfield every year from FA and the draft--the last 3 years in the draft alone you can count on Wheatley, Wilhite, Meriweather and Richardson. Count Bodden and Springs as new to the team this year and Tank Williams looking to finally see a regular season game this year. Or are you saying: why can't the Patriots draft or develop a Ty Law every year? Nothing like having realistic expectations!

How many 2nd round picks do the patriots have?

Has anyone point out there was a typo in the story?

LOL

Thankfully the NFL is helping out the poor Patriots, Belichick really needed that extra pick in the 3rd round . Always good to see NFL giving the little guys get a helping hand.

OK so that's 13 comments all on Mikes typo. Guys who really cares. We're here to talk football not typos. I check these comments to hear abut the draft not typos. This is ridiculous. Mikes been away a bit cut the guy some slack hes got alot more on his mind then typing in this blog.

Anyways Yippeeee for the 97th Pick. There will be some good value there. Theres great player around the end of the third or fourth round that will at least give us another chip in a chance of finding one,

Nice i figured we get one for asante but anything extra was just bonus..that being said Mike and others here is my mock draft w/ comp picks tell me what you think..

1 #23. ILB Rey Maualuga, Southern California 6'1 260 4.75 - I know some of you dont think he will fall to us but ive seen many "expert" and FF mocks have him slip past us. What can I say about ReyRey that hasnt been said, he is a tough, physical ILB. Is solid all around, coverage, pass rush, and stuffing the run. Would form a great duo with Mayo.

2a #34. OLB/DE/TE Conner Barwin, Cincinnati 6'4 255 4.55 - When I think of Connor Barwin I think of the word "versatility" because thats just what he is. He played his first 3 college years as a TE, so theres your goal line "Vrabel" right there. He stepped in last year as a full time DE and registered 53 tackles and 11 sacks. He got by last year on his pure athleticism alone. Its scary to think what BB could do to them.

2b #47. SS Louis Delmas Western Michigan 5-11 202 4.53 - After turning out a good senior bowl this kid hasnt slowed down. He had a great combine, putting out a 4.5 40 and looked great in his position drills. He'll play SS for us in a rotation with Sanders and hopefully lock down the starting job by mid season. He is a very tough and physical player and does an outstanding job against the run. He has good instincts(is always around the ball) with the ability to lay em out.

2c #58. DE Jarron Gilbert, San Jose State 6'5 288 4.87 - Tall, strong and, athletic, he has a nice first step and has a very good motor. He does a great job of using his hands and has a nice set of pass rush moves. Will learn under Seymour and Warren and rotate in the line up through out the year. If Seymour doesnt come back he may be able to start next year

3a #89. WR Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma 6-0 210 4.56 - Iglesias was very consistent for the Sooners racking up 08 totals of 74 rec, 1,150yds, 10 tds. At 6' 210 he has great size and will be a great possession receiver. He runs crisp routes, has good body control, catches the ball with his hands and he knows how to get into the end zone. He wont initially be a huge factor but by the stretch run and next year he should contribute consistently.

3b Comp. OT Jason Watkins Florida 6-5 318 5.40 - Watkins is an efficient and talented pass blocker and could play either left tackle or right tackle for us. He has great height with a large frame and long arms while still maintaining his quickness and agility. Watkins will hopefully challenge Kaczur on the right side, and at the very least be the top reserve. He also lined up as a tight end at times so has the versatility BB likes. He defends the edge well and can handle the speed rushers of the AFC.

4. CB Joe Burnett, Central Florida 5'9 192 4.57 - Burnett is a physcial CB with good cover skills. He's a hard hitter and isnt afraid to help out in the run and because of this people have said he might work at S. Is instinctive and has good hands. He is an excellent punt returner and has the chance to be a Devin Hester type returning kicks. Can return right away and serve as the teams dime/ nickel back.

5. Traded to Eagles for WR Greg Lewis

5 comp. OG Tyronne Green Auburn 6-1 309 5.30 - Green is very quick and light on his feet. Has excellent mobility and range to pull and get to the second level. Is a durable hard worker and a great team leader. Is still raw and makes up for size and weaknesses with athleticism and competitiveness. With Neel getting older and with an expiring contract a year with Dante and he could be our starting RG in 2010.

6a. TE Travis McCall, Alabama 6-2 260 - Great strength and an excellent blocker, has potential as a reciever but was never really called upon for that. He can play special teams and is a durable, team leader. There is also the Saban connection to think of. Another PS player, he gives the Pats a True blocker, something they've missed since Graham.

6b comp. RB Bernard Scott Abilene Christian 5-11 200 4.44 - Scott has quick feet and vision and knows how to hit and fly through the hole. He can pound you up the middle, burn you on the outside, or catch out of the back field. Is a very elusive back with good power and has the ability to set up his blocks and take it the distance at any moment. Put him on the PS for the year and maybe he finds his way to the roster next year.

7. NT Ra'Shon Harris, Oregon 6'3 298 4.99 - He has long arms, strong against the double team. Has good speed and quickness. Gets a Sustained push and can drive the pocket back with his strength and effort. Shows grasp of technique to shed O-linemen for the tackle. He would come in as the backup to Wilfork, we dont have a real backup NT and he could offer Big Vin a breather..

again thanks Mike and enjoy .

First of all Mike didn't write this post, Christopher Gasper did. Second of all who gives a sh*t if their is a typo, the bottom line is that we have 11 of the first 100 picks and can make some great moves with those picks.

i see BB trading at least a 2nd and maybe a third into future 2nd. We can afford it I think and we need to spread it out a bit as well. I just hope we dont get peppers because it will be a lot of picks lost for him(and possibly seymour + wilfork)

The article left one thing out, Compensatory picks cannot be traded

Rey Maualuga is a top 15, top 10 in some circles, pick. The only way he will be around pick 23 is he comes out and states michael vick is his hero.

Hi Mike. Just got curious. What compensatory pick did Ravens get after we signed AD?

Mike did you hear the news: Rey Maualuga just bought all of the dogs that Vick lost..Most mocks have him dropping into the 20's...I wouldn't draft him the Patriots need an OLT...

The article DID mention comp picks can not be traded....what's with these posters? Anyways, great additions to the draft, some optomistic free agent pickups and hopefully a very motivated Brady and Co....can't wait for the season.

We got a pick for a guy who committed vehicular manslaughter with a Bentley while driving drunk? I guess that's fair. I hope they never let Stallworth play again. Lock that idiot up! Hey D, ever heard of getting a freaking driver to go with your Bent???

We have THREE second round picks:
#34 - Kansas City Chiefs
#47 - San Diego Chargers
#58 - New England Patriots

Also, what's an OLT?

Bill - the picks awarded were for the 2007 off-season activity. Stallworth left in 2008. I wouldn't expect too high of a pick for him, if one at all, given he was injured and didn't play much.

Josh,
You have clearly put in a great deal of work and thought into your selections. I would suggest that If neither Clay Matthews or Rey M. is no longer available, I would not hesitate to take Connor Barwin at #23. Sometimes you have to be prepared to "overpay" for a draft choice whose value seemingly does not quite match where selected (e.g. David Harris would have been a superior choice to Brandon M.). DO not forget what I call the "Joe Staley Effect", if a player flies up the board ( post -combine) he won't be there when NE would like to have drafted him.

Pre-Draft prediction - Broncos trade Cutler for 1st rounder; acquire Gutierrez for conditional draft pick

Dawn- I was just making a joke comment that Pats got pick for a guy that killed someone after he left. Ironic Is it not?

Poop

Josh: Malauga at 23 and Barwin at 34 is a pipe dream. Barwin is shooting up draft boards right now and theres no way Rey gets past the Donkeys or the Super Chargers. Delmas is also oe of the top rated safeties so I dont see him lasting that long although I believe Bob Sanders was picked right around that spot. Lastly I would love to see the Pats snag William Moore with the 34th pick! The guy is a beast and will be the next Rodney Harrison/Brian Dawkins both guys were seen as flawed come draft day and felt due to that and look at them now. William Moore is going to be a stud!!! There's something about Delmas that I didn't like and also seeing him at the combine raised a few red flags for me. Also Gilbert is another fast riser so I dont see him being there either. He's an Athletic Freak like Barwin!!!

p.s. Josh.

I would love the pats to get all of them minus switching Delmas with Moore.

Hi Mike. Just got curious. What compensatory pick did Ravens get after we signed AD?
Posted by Tommy March 23, 09 11:10 PM

The Ravens (lost Adalius Thomas, Jamal Lewis, Tony Pashos and Ovie Mughelli) They ended up with four compensatory picks because they didn't sign anyone. The highest one was Adalius Thomas which was Pick # 99 in the third round. It was the last pick of that round.

Cheers!

I don't believe that many fan commentators appreciate player choices made on BB's total analysis which includes complete specs on the players we have and their attitude plus already existing depths at each position, the long term contract costs, and physical conditions of the players. In addition, BB has a fine staff who advise him on player needs. Finally, ithe draft is always a chess game with selection trades and surprise picks. All of this is a job for super Bill.

Nick C., OLT stands for Offensive Left Tackle.

Kenny, amen brother. ROFL.

Josh, great work. You even threw in a TE in the late rounds for good measure. I personally think the Pats trade at least one pick for future picks. They will not be able to fit all the 11 picks on their roster for the coming season.

Nick C., OLT - Offensive Left Tackle.

I don't understand the formula for these picks. If it is based on salary, playing time and postseason honors, shouldn't the Steelers have received more than a 5th rnd pick for Alen Faneca? He received a major contract (I think second only to Asante) and made the probowl.

There we go again with a draft pick for Guttierez. Note to the fanboys--Guttierez didn't even make the team last year (he was brought back when Brady was placed on IR). If the Patriots sign Ramsey, don't expect him on the squad this year either. But I'm sure someone will try and give up valuable draft picks for him. After all, the Patriots used a pick for him. Oh wait, that's right, he was a UDFA.

Barry,

The Steelers likely didn't get a higher round pick because they picked up almost as much as they lost. Remember: Compensatory picks are rewarded based on the NET affect of free agency (so if you sign as many players or players of similar value, you don't get squat). The Steelers signed Mewelde Moore, and Justin Hartwig, not to mention Leftwich. All in all, it was decided that the Steelers didn't lose SIGNIFICANTLY more than they gained, hence, no 3rd rounder...but still some compensation.

Also, the Steelers suck.

in addition ,to having a great draft-which the pats need-on defense.take rey mauluaga of usc.try giving them a 3rd.to move up.if that doesen't work.then,give them one of our 2nd's,maybe the last one?

draft paul kruger w/ one of our 2nd rounders.he'd be great.clay matthews,david veikune of hawaii,sidbury or brandon williams.for db's,either jairus byrd of oregon,and /or sean smith of utah.also,louis delmas,william moore(missouri)(another rodney).or that mcrath kid from texas tech.we need another hard-hitting safety,another pass rushing d lineman,or julius peppers(don't give up any more than that 2nd for cassell for him.also need,one inside,one outside linebacker,and either 1 or 2 new corners.at least one.i wouldn't count on shawn springs.

make these moves smartly new england ,and the rest of the nfl will be again looking up at the new ne dynasty(a 2009 superbowl victory?)i think so ,but we need some more youth/talent in key positions i just mentioned.

floyd reese is a plus.he'll be better than pioli.--one last thing.why don't the pats sign young stud safety dewan landry?then you wouldn't have to waste any picks on safety.you should sign him before he gets gobbled up.then,we've had a tremendous free agency.it's already been real good!--DEWAN LANDRY(SAFETY-BALTIMORE RAVENS-PLEASE SIGN-TRUST ME!)

How bout them red sox?

Rob,

Hartwig and Leftwich didn't affect the Steelers' comp pick at all. The NFL publishes the names of the players in the equation, and Hartwig and Leftwich were not mentioned (nor should they have been). There are specific criteria that must be met for players to be considered in the equation for comp picks. The only qualifying players for the Steelers were Alan Faneca (lost), Clark Haggans (lost) and Mewelde Moore (signed).

i dont think bill b values ist rounders as much as 2nds and 3rds. remember those picks better than half will be starters in 3 years and at least one will be a pro bowler in 4.

in bill we trust

and as always...the yankees suck

Adam,

It sounds like you know more about the process than I do (which isn't surprising, especially if you're the AdamJt13 mentioned on patscap). I was making an (apparently un-) educated guess. Still, despite the names being incorrect, it sounds like the crux of my point (looking at net loss rather than just looking at the loss, excluding gain) was correct, and of course my final point was absolutely correct. Thanks for the clarification.

Only free agents coming off expiring contracts, lost or added, count toward compensatory picks.

Leigh Boddon (cut by Lions), Shawn Springs (cut by 'Skins) and Greg Lewis (trade) will not reduce the compensatory picks for the Patriots. Similarly Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel (traded) will not increase the picks.

Lonnie Paxton, Jabar Gaffney, Larry Izzo and LaMont Jordan on the other hand were players whose contact with the Patriots expired and signed with other teams. These players will be counted as free-agents lost by the Patriots when they are awarded their compensatory picks next year.

Cartman, that was extremely helpful. I didn't know that. Maybe that's the reason the Pats sign so many vets to 1 year deals. If they have a great year, they're either willing to re-up, or they go somewhere else and comp picks are awarded. If they break down, they don't get resigned, and if they manage to find another team to take a shot at them...comp picks are awarded.

Another Reason to sign the Vet's is they tend to give the pat's the "hometown discount" for a good chance to win a ring..

Also Most of the comp pics have not been for vets.... BB isn't big on making his own Vet's either...To make your own vet's usually involves big expensive contracts for many years (which will usually result in @ least 1 unproductive/injuried season)..He sign's vet's (usually 1's with no rings & baggage) to mentor his draft pics... Then allows the draft pics to b mentored make bowls win rings and then when they are still near there peak leave for free agency and get the comp. picks.. (i.e. Samual 4th round pick (got his best years... comp 3rd round pick within top 100) Pat's got great years and draft position out of the deal... (randall Gay another great example comp pick for an undrafted player) Genius..

Also Most of the comp pics have not been for vets.... BB isn't big on making his own Vet's either...To make your own vet's usually involves big expensive contracts for many years (which will usually result in @ least 1 unproductive/injuried season)..He sign's vet's (usually 1's with no rings & baggage) to mentor his draft pics... Then allows the draft pics to b mentored make bowls win rings and then when they are still near there peak leave for free agency and get the comp. picks.. (i.e. Samual 4th round pick (got his best years... comp 3rd round pick within top 100) Pat's got great years and draft position out of the deal... (randall Gay another great example comp pick for an undrafted player) Genius..