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Patriots, WRs & the draft

Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff April 8, 2009 05:00 AM

(Third in a position-by-position look at the Patriots leading into the draft)

Personnel: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, Greg Lewis, Matthew Slater, Sam Aiken, Ray Ventrone

Short-term need: Answers at No. 3. The Patriots' base offense is a three-receiver set, and Jabar Gaffney -- who was on the field for 66 percent of the snaps in 2008 -- has signed with Denver. So filling the void at the No. 3 receiver spot, with Joey Galloway and Greg Lewis top candidates, is the top question.

Long-term need: Moderate-to-high. Galloway is on a one-year deal. Moss is signed through the 2010 season, while Welker and Lewis are inked through 2011.

Quick hit: At first glance, the depth doesn't look as good as it did in 2007, when the roster included Moss, Welker, Gaffney and Donte Stallworth as the top four pass-catchers. The Patriots would presumably like to come out of the draft with a prospect who could develop into a No. 3 option by 2010.

Prospects that could be on the radar in the draft or rookie free agency: Brooks Foster (North Carolina), Brian Hartline (Ohio State), Juaquin Iglesias (Oklahoma), Mohamed Massaquoi (Georgia), Louis Murphy (Florida), Brian Robiskie (Ohio State), Brandon Tate (North Carolina), Pat White (West Virginia)

* Pro Football Weekly Draft Guide used as reference

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    23 comments so far...
    1. I have a feeling the Pats will like Robiskie...seems like a Pats kind of guy. Not sure if they will use a 2nd rounder on a WR but I bet they like that kid. I really like Johnny Knox around the 3rd rd supplemental or in the 4th if he is still on the board

      Posted by jaredk April 8, 09 08:08 AM
    1. Wasn't Deion Branch coming available again this offseason? I don't think there's a reason he wouldn't flourish for a few years in our system again...although I have no idea if he resigned with the Seahawks or not...

      Posted by Ytsejamer1 April 8, 09 09:10 AM
    1. I dont see the Pats drafting a WR. There just isn't any room on the roster. When someone thinks the Pats will draft a WR/RB/etc i wish they would also mention who they think will be cut. There are only so many spots on the roster.
      Galloway has a one year contract, but before he was signed I thought Greg Lewis could have stepped up into that role. You have to remember Lewis had McNabb throwing to him. Brady will make Lewis look like a #1 on some teams. Worst case, even if Galloway does well he could also be resigned next year imo. Theses older players would rather play for a contender if they can.

      Posted by Andy M April 8, 09 10:08 AM
    1. Mike, thank you very much for not listing any University of Florida WR's. I think one of the most shocking picks the Patriots could make in the first round would be Percy Harvin.

      Posted by Andrew S. April 8, 09 10:21 AM
    1. Agreed Andy. If anything the Patriots will take a guy like Pat White in the second round, but I highly doubt they take a true wide receiver like Brooks Foster

      Posted by Jimi Hendrix April 8, 09 10:21 AM
    1. I look at WR as one of the lowest priorities for this season.

      Posted by Mike Allen April 8, 09 10:36 AM
    1. The Pats should take a long look at Austin Collie from BYU. He has the size 6'1" 200 and is a great route runner with very good speed, and they can get him in the 3rd or 4th round. I would love to see him in a Pats uniform.

      Posted by Joshua J April 8, 09 10:56 AM
    1. i think one thing for sure is whoever gets drafted will get little play time unless he drastically boosts his skills. We already have Moss + welker at 1/2 unless they get injured. Then we got Galloway and Lewis "fighting" for 3rd spot and the rookie is basically gonna fight for 4th. One rookie I think who "got lucky" was anthony gonzalez when colts had injuries on WR core and he had to step in and performed well. So unless that situation comes up (i hope not..) then whoever gets drafted probably wont get a lot of playtime to develop unless we blow everyone else out again....

      Posted by alex April 8, 09 11:34 AM
    1. Mike -
      Aside from the possibility of drafting Pat White in the mid 2nd round, I think the pats will look to the 97th pick or later to grab a WR, and there should be plenty of potential talent still out there:
      Derrick Williams - PSU
      Mike Wallace - Ole Miss
      Ramses Barden - Cal-Poly
      Kevin Ogletree - Virginia
      Jarett Dillard - Rice
      Pat Turner - USC

      Posted by B R April 8, 09 11:44 AM
    1. Kenny Britt, Quan Cosby, Jarett Dillard, Aaron Kelly, or either of the PSU wide receivers Sargeant/Williams. The Patriots can find a lower name WR with a 4th rounder, but will it be worth it? They should fill their LB, CB, S needs first, then maybe OL, DL. Their WR corps is still better than 27-29 teams in the league.

      Posted by Sean Martin April 8, 09 11:51 AM
    1. Andy, I am not sold on Greg Lewis, Sam Aiken, Slater or Ventrone. With Galloway likely being gone after this season and with Welker/Moss another year older, I think selecting a WR with one of our many picks makes a lot of sense in rounds 3-5 if there is a guy they like. I don't think it is a desperate need for this year but could become an issue in the near future and is worth addressing if there is a guy the Pats like and feel would be a good fit. Somebody who can provide depth as a #5 (we use a lot of spreads and someone is bound to miss games) this year and challenge Greg Lewis for the #3 next year.

      Posted by JaredK April 8, 09 12:23 PM
    1. Mike,

      Here we go question....

      1. CB, S, OLB, ILB, DL, OG, C, WR, RB, QB.
      2. The Pats may try to trade 2009 second round picks, for 2010 picks.
      3. Darius Butler, Larry English, Clay Matthews Jr.
      4. Long shot pick - Ziggy Hood

      Posted by Saint April 8, 09 12:35 PM
    1. I get the feeling we might go for another tight end that can catch the ball instead of another receiver. Belichick has a history of drafting tight ends. Pettigrew???

      Posted by moxie April 8, 09 01:28 PM
    1. I think the WR to keep an eye on is Mike Thomas from Arizona. He ran a 4.3 at the Combine and has mastered speed routes in college. Thomas also had two special team touchdowns.

      Posted by Walter April 8, 09 02:05 PM
    1. The Pats, as history has it, will get burned drafting a WR that isn't polished. Every time they draft with "Speed & Potential" they never work out. All those names that were listed are NOT polished. If anything they will take a project late in the draft like 6/7 round. There are too many needs (ILB, OLB, SS, DL) that need to be addressed.

      Posted by Glenn April 8, 09 02:36 PM
    1. The Patriots find good receivers in the draft when picking "Football Guys" (like Deion Branch & David Givens) and not "Combine Guys" (like Tony Gaiter, Terry Glenn-1st, Tony Simmons-2nd, Bethel Johnson-2nd, Chad Jackson-2nd)...

      Posted by CN April 8, 09 05:51 PM
    1. I disagree Glen, I don't necessarily see them using an early 2nd rounder but I would be willling to bet they take a receiver by the 3rd/4th round. With all their picks (even if they trade 2 for better picks next year they have 9) I think it is the perfect draft to take a guy that may be able to be at least a 3rd wideout on the depth chart by 2010. Knox didn't play against great competition but all the reports I have read say he has excellent hands to go with elite speed/athleticism and a solid route runner. We are not looking at a guy (Knox, Tate or whoever) who needs to be more then a 4/5 this year in any case.

      Posted by jaredk April 8, 09 05:55 PM
    1. Pat White would be a great addition. He's versatile and intelligent and would fit the Pats system. Much could be done with an acquisition like that.

      Posted by Kurt April 9, 09 01:35 PM
    1. I agree with Kurt....Pat White would be an excellent fit for the Pats....not only could he fill in as an emergency QB, but play WR , Wildcat QB, and be a ST guy.

      We all know how BB loves those guys with versatility.....one pick and he could fill in at multiple positions and roles.

      It all depends on where he is available as a value pick...

      Posted by Dave April 10, 09 10:11 AM
    1. Yes, but let's look at the WR's if Moss were to get hurt. Welker can't move outside so it would put Galloway and Lewis outside with Welker inside. OK but not nearly as intimidating as with Moss as your #1.

      Need to draft a potential outside #1 WR this year to give them a year or two to learn the offense.

      Posted by Mike April 10, 09 09:28 PM
    1. Some team is going to get Percy Harvin and he is the perfect spread offense weapon. The PATS should get Louis Murphy and then take Harvin in the 2nd round.

      Posted by Jerry April 17, 09 08:44 PM
    1. dont worry about wide receivers..its a position best filled in free agency because it takes a wide receiver a few years to develope.the pats need a solid tight end "watson needs to grow a pair of hands" seems only pettigrew is worth a top pick. and adding pat white would be great if hes still there in the 3rd round which i think he will be....go pats!!

      Posted by paul h. April 19, 09 11:06 AM
    1. I would love it if they get Pat White and develop him long term as something of an offensive utility man, maybe as slot reciever, or wildcat quarterback. He could be an electric reciever, or a quick back, or a running quarterback

      I think that would give the pats an offensive look that's even more versitile, and could also save some mileage off Tom Brady, just to make sure injuries don't pile up

      Posted by Nick April 20, 09 01:25 AM
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