Vontae Davis visits Pats

Maybe this is a dumb question, but the phrase "out-of-town prospects" is always used when talking about pre-draft visits.

Does that mean there is a different standard for local players that don't need travel or lodging? For example hosting a player from BC or UConn.

anything quoted from a source and not written by you (e.g. the "mike reiss-crafted disclaimer") should be in quotes

Don't mention nfl draft bible. If you do, you're giving their story credibility, which is exactly what they want. They are a joke of a website trying to rack up hits. There is a reason they only get 10,000 visitors a month.

They don't have any inside sources.

In fact, the only people to know about the test results are the doctors, players themselves, and possibly the agents. The teams don't even know.

Why would NFL draft bible know? Like come on.

wheres Mike Allen right now with his "Well I like these guys but I really like Sean Smith. When his workout scheduled?" haha sorry I cant resist every post Ive ever seen is Mike talkin up Sean Smith. =) If they take him I will never post on these boards again.

Another reason to host players they won't get is so they can figure how good they really are...in case they get drafted by the Raiders and are free in 4 years.

Also a good indicator they think they might package some picks and move up in the draft if they are looking at higher grade players.

Matt, you failed to mention M.A. also is obsesses with certain types of men - men who play c.b. even though the only thing he's ever coached is (maybe) powderpuff football.

Matt--you forgot Mike Allen's tired anti-Hobbs comments.

O believe me I've had the corner back argument with Mike Allen. Hobbs is a good if not great slot corner back but he was forced out of position before he was ready and hes still reliable but the Pats don't trust him and haven't had a solid pass rush so they've been playing back the last few years . I still like the guy but there's a bunch of haters since the Burress TD in the Superbowl where he should have had safety help over the top. Hes not as bad as people think.

Wait til everyone sees Wheatley this year! o boy that's why were not drafting a corner this kid is going to be great. Remember the Indy game he worked his way into the starting line up made a sick play then got hurt. Wheatley is going to open some eyes this season. I believe we focus on LB/Safety then O-line early in the draft. BPA at 23 no matter what. I'm all for William Moore or Larry English at 34. I'm not on the Connor Barwin band wagon unless hes there at 47.

p.s. I like Jenkins dropping to say around 16 or 17 or Maualuga and the Pats using their third or last second to move up and snag one. Forget Jenkins 40 times the kid is a player as well as Rey. Imagine Maualuga and Mayo patrolling the middle of the field. Maualuga is great on the run and rushing and Mayo is great everywhere. Maualuga will be our Ted Johnson with a little bit of Lofa Tatupu (smarts wise) mixed in. Bruschi can play on third downs this season until Rey gets adjusted to life in the NFL.

I'm kinda surprised of all the talk of moving Jenkins to safety. I realize that his 40 time was merely average but he is taller/long arms then most corners which when combined with good instincts makes up for a step or two. Also, he had the fastest cone time which shows excellent quickness and agility which is almost as important if not more then straight-line speed. I could see him having to move to safety down the road and making a successful transition, I do think he could be a terrific corner for the next 7-8 years before switching and corner is a far more valuable commodity then a free safety in my opinion.

A guy who is also being considered as a tweener who might be a great value is Sherrod Martin from Troy. He will be 25 at the start of the season ( some injury/redshirt years) but he is a very athletic free safety who likes to hit and many think could play corner in the NFL...great size, flexibilty and tackling is something we could use long-term. he's 6'1 190 lbs, 4.52/40, 90 takcles, 4 picks as a Senior. If he is on the board when we pick at the end of the third, would love to add a guy with his flexibility.

Larry English has good production in college and looked good in the Senior Bowl practices. But in competition against the best in the Senior Bowl game he was pretty much a non-factor as was Clay Matthews and BJ Raji for that matter. This has me wary on English and Matthews for the Pats. I think they have better choices. Barwin only played about 3 downs on defense in the Senior Bowl and one of them was an excellent rush where he flushed the QB and landed on him from behind as he threw. He has questions marks as to his strength but is in my eyes promising.