Crable, Warren on PUP

Why does there even need to be a "active/PUP" list? Does it affect the roster in any way?

Is Crable ever NOT hurt? He should be given his unconditional release.

Why does there even need to be a "active/PUP" list?

It's important; it gives the fans something to freak out about.

OMG here we go already.

"Both" groins? The man's my hero!

I have a hunch Cramble will have 8-12 sacks this year and 4 more in playoff.

You have to be kidding me with this crap already. Crable has been on PUP/IR or whatever since week 8 of last season....? I mean we are weak at OLB already, now who we all think could be a major contributor this year is already on PUP. What a joke, I guess we're going to have to endure TBC getting blown up at OLB again.

You're all missing the point. By going on active/PUP list, they don't count toward the 80 man training camp limit. This allows the coaching staff to evaluate more of the "bubble" players before activating these men and releasing those who don't make the cut. It's pretty straightforward, really. They'll all be ready to play by the regular season.

Panic to ensure in 3...2...1....

Mike, Is Andrew correct? I believe you wrote last week that the PUP was irrelevant for the 80 man roster?

Andrew S.-

The Active/PUP guys still count against the 80-man limit.

Why are the Patriots going to put Crable on the active/PUP list to evaluate "bubble" players when he's yet to take a regular season snap in his career ?!?!

Panic mode now hit.

Crable is not starting this year. He was at 40% before it just dropped to 5%. Lol this isnt going to help him whatsoever.

Andrew S-Crable unlike Warren is competing for a starting job. When Warren comes back he has a starting role while Crable could be starting if he competed in camp but thats not going to happen if hes seriously injured.

Speculation at this point but its horrible news for him and the Pats.

Just a question, Chris and commenters. Do you know why, if Brandon Tate tears his ACL, he then gets put on the active/non-football injury list? To this layman, tearing a knee ligament in a college game sounds like a football injury.

Eh, looks like we'll get to see what both Woods and Brace can do early.

If nothing else, this reinforces the opportunity for a 4-3 (AD, Wilfork, Seymour and Green in front of Woods, Bruschi and Mayo).

Did BB keep his receipt?

Andrew S is absolutely right.
Also, when BB and I last chatted over a beer in the oval, he told me not to worry about those things that were in written reports, the public option is still on the table.

A player has to be put on Active/PUP before he practices to be eligible
for Reserve/ PUP later on. Once he practices, he is not eligible for
Reserve/PUP.

Not a football comment per se, just a note that 'Drew' is a tool. That is all.

Andrew S is absolutely right.
Also, when BB and I last chatted over a beer in the oval, he told me not to worry about those things that were in written reports, the public option is still on the table.

Andrew S is absolutely right.
Also, when BB and I last chatted over a beer in the oval, he told me not to worry about those things that were in written reports, the public option is still on the table.

We can see where Crable's career is going...At least with Vrabel, he was always on the field.

Wasn't Crable supposed to be Vrabel's replacement? Now, he is hurt... again? BB likes good, smart, tough football players. Being hurt, again, does not fit that criteria. He needs to play through the pain like every other FOOTBALL player does. This is football not baseball where you can take the remainder of the season off for a "tired arm" (poor performance). Who does Crable think he is, Dice-K Matsusaka?

just looking at crable it was obvious that he would not be very durable, his legs are thinner than his arms. last year he had a "shin" injury that kept him out for the season. he gets hurt just in practice. he will be lucky to ever see the field in a regular season game.

warren is not a concern, he had surgery and is taking time to recover for the long season. he will be fine.

I guess Shawn Cripple blew out his knee while walking out to check the mail yesterday...

PaulK-

Tate is on the NFI list because his injury occurred outside of the NFL.

#3 Dave: thanks for clarifying. Now I can really freak out full throttle over Crable's mysterious "lower torso" ailments and contemplate Ty Warren's "double groins".

"Sulak was a sixth-round draft choice of the Raiders, 199th overall, but was waived before signing a contract."
Hey! that's the Pats very own Lucky Draft Position! All but guaranteed Sulak will thrive here.

Capology 101: if you are rated about #1 in overall team talent, and if you start with 53 good players, and then a bunch of good players come off of last year's injured reserve, and then you grab 9 more free agents, and then on top of that you have 12 draft picks -- then always pick injured players. Third rounder Brandon Tate is injured and immediately goes on the injury list. Draftees Rich Orhnberger and Darryl Richard immediately limp over to the PUP list. These guys may (or may not) be great players in another year, and now they'll sit out a year or at least 2 months until someone gets injured, and at that time they can be activated. It almost makes you want to throw a carload of rookies off a small cliff, except picking the injured ones is so much easier.

It's those darn skinny legs. Toothpick legs may work in some positions but not at OLB.

He could come off PUP tomorrow. If it's a minor injury (like something that would keep him off the practice field for a week), then it makes sense for those guys to start out on PUP so you can keep more players on the 80-man roster. It's not necessarily a big deal.