Report: Avery had incident in Boston

as far as that goes...it goes and blows...that happens to fans everywhere...if the fan is making themselves heard they should expect some back....But since it's Avery...blah blah...there are ton's of stuff the league doesn't do anything about...whether it's Brickley saying the F word for every little boy or girl to hear nationally or a ref telling another player the F word...etc...Avery loves to hear himself talk cause nobody else will listen...Wouldn't be a bit surprise to seeing him wearing a Habs sweater in the new year...lol

doesnt seem like Avery did anything wrong to me. On ESPN and other sports media they were writing about 'what will avery say now?!' and wondering how his game in calgary would go, he was just giving them something to write about. I really don't see the big deal here. They were so quick to suspend him for something he said in an interview, if he said that on the ice nothing would have happened, and if he hit someone from behind intentionally he may not even get a penalty!

I think it's hysterical. Who would want to date this guy anyway? Just my own opinion, but he's not the least bit goodlooking and he has a nasty personality to match, both on and off the ice. If he was as talented as he is rude and classless, maybe he'd still be playing hockey. Hopefully Vogue hires him full time, because that's about all he's got going for him.

that was hilarious when brick swore on air last year and they didnt realize the feed was still playing during the commercial break
avery was definitely baited by the media to say something, and he did. he could have said much worse than sloppy seconds. this is the league being inconsistent, like you pointed out, he could hit someone from behind and maybe not even get a penalty.

Give me a break what century are Bettman and CO living in. I think Avery is an ass. But he has more integrity than the Ott's, Begin's, and Hartnell's of the world. When he gets called out on the ice he'll drop them, and he'll stick up for a team mate.

I'll take 50 Avery's in the NHL over one cheap shot artist. He was not wearing any (visible) NHL/team apparel, the only people who woulf have heard about it if Bettman had a clue were a few people in Calgary who hate him anyway.

I see some guys here who clearly do not have women in their lives or do not understand how degrading to women Avery's comment was. This wasn't just a hockey joke it was a slander of all women. It clearly shows Avery has no respect for women. Ask yourself how you would have like it if he was talking about your mother of sister.

o come on, i'm sure many of us have women in our lives.... in fact i hear women say the term sloppy seconds more than i hear it from men, get over it, its not as bad of a comment as it is being made out to be

"avery was definitely baited by the media to say something, and he did. he could have said much worse than sloppy seconds."

Wha?! The child went out of his way to search out the media, ensured their cameras were on and then proceeded to pull out that clearly-rehearsed insult. The man knew he was crossing the line and knew the NHL would punish him for it... if he can't take personal responsibility for his own words and actions, then too bad.

So Avery gets an indefinite suspension for inappropriate behavior and Randy Jones gets 2 games for ending someones season, and nearly their career or, god forbid, their life?
Nice one Bettman, keep up the good work, and while your at it, how about putting a team in Mobile or San Antonio or Tucson to try and grow the product.

ahh im pretty sure the term sloppy seconds came from a female

i believe he was talking about his ex girlfriends, not all women..sloppy seconds, you call this bad....I laughed my arse off over that...I imagine his ex girlfriends are doing the same..if not, they should be...It's nobodys fault except the media who knew this was coming down...He's just mad he got dumped by these Lady's..So now that this crap is wide open expect to hear more of he said, you said etc...Kinda reminds me abit of the Clemens crap we've had to endure...Anyhoo...lets GO BRUINS!

I don't think it was necessarily what he said that got him suspended, but the medium he chose to do it in. As has been mentioned in other posts, this was nothing compared to what's said on the ice, BUT, that's on the ice. The NHL is a product and as such want to protect their image - they can't have their employees spouting off inappropriate things on national television for everyone to hear. It reflects poorly on their product.

Most of us wouldn't think twice if this was a buddy of ours saying it over drinks, but if you were representing your company at a speaking engagement and dropped something like this for all to hear ... I should hope you would be disciplined by your employer .... if not dismissed entirely.

This is seriously, the most ludacris suspension the the History of the NHL... He wasn't out at a club with a gun shooting himself in the leg. He wasn't screwing around with hookers on a big party boat in Minnesota. He just said a funny, rehearsed line, to try and annoy the opponent. THe bottom line is he would have backed it up on the ice. Avery is one of the last players left who would have been loved just ten years ago with all the great press conference trash talking that used to be done. I don't want the NHL to put a leash on what it's players can and can not say. If the Stars want to suspend him, or fine him, then fine, they are the ones who paid him. But the NHL should worry about getting the On Ice Suspensions right and bring back the Old days, when the NHL was fun to read about as well.

Just makes me realize even more what a mature professional group of guys the Bruins are.

Avery used a term which is vulgar at best, and inappropriately sexual at worst. It was absolutely and without question over-the-line.

Not only does it violate the league's standards, it violates NHLPA standards -- just last week Union President Paul Kelly told KPD that the two things the players can do to increase revenue are a) continue to play hard and b) continue to be good ambassadors for the game.

A huge part of the marketing strategy of both the league and the NHLPA is that NHL players are tough but classy. Whether it's true or not, Avery stomped all over that image. Take a step back from the locker room and remember that "sloppy seconds" is a sexual term -- totally inappropriate for a family audience, and NOT what anyone concerned with the game wants to hear coming out of a player's mouth on camera.

Bear in mind that Avery does this stuff on purpose because he thinks the NHL should be more like the WWF -- he's said the league should market "its villains." But neither the league, nor the union, nor the owners agree with him.

And for the record, the two youth hockey moms I've talked to about it called him "a pig" for saying it, and at my kid's practice tonight I guarantee you the rest of the moms will agree. That's not good for hockey.

If you think what Avery said is "funny," you've got a pretty weird sense of humor.

The guy's about as funny as a punch to the face. Do you know he rode LA rookie Dustin Brown so hard when he was with the Kings (Brown has a minor speech impediment) that he drove the kid into a shell, thus hurting his OWN TEAM, and started fistfights in the locker room? Oh, great teammate, that Sean Avery. The man is a pig. Then again, that's an insult to pigs.

Aaron Ward said it best: Avery is the guy you hate as an oppoent, and hate even more as a teammate. He didn' get suspended just for that remark. He got suspended for everything leading up to it - classless comments, cheap shots, and other assorted forms of idiocy.

Really Eddie? I don't remember ever hearing or reading about an NHL player publically disparaging an opponents wife/girlfriend .... ever. I do agree that its more up to the Stars though and that the NHL should let them deal with it.

This little boy really needs to grow up. Sure, we used to trash talk like that when I played hockey when I was 16 or 17 but he's a professional, he's 28 years old and there's no excuse to be acting like an immature douchebag. The guy is obviously a little rat s**t disturber and needs to be put in his place and grow up.

He dropped out in grade 9, knows nothing and wants to work in women's fashion. My life is better than his already. When he realizes how sad and empty his life really is, and when his career is done at 40 and hes a degenerate alcoholic living in Northern Ontario, we'll see who'll be the sloppy seconds then.

Avery used a term in use in every Jr High in the country. Was it senseless, yes, was it neede, nope, was it something that should cost him his job, hardly. In most companies if it warranted _anything_ it would be some "social awareness training".

And "Was2", I've heard morewomen use the term than men. It's certainly descriptive, but calling it vulgar is a stretch. Calling an insult to his exes and their current paramours insulting to all women is a load of bull, pure nonsense and _worse_ than what he said.

It seems that some people don't have all the facts. The comment was directed at Calgary's star d-man Dion Phaneuf who's currently dating actress Elisha Cuthbert, who happens to be Avery's ex (and reportedly has also dated Montreal's d-man Mike Komisarek).

All I can say is that as a huge hockey fan I knew which game I'd be watching on my NHL Center Ice package last night after I first heard Avery's comments. Yes, the Dallas vs. Calgary one. Too bad he got suspended. That would have been fun.

Simply put Bleeder if you suport Avery's comment and think it was just funny then you support Violence against women. When ever you dehuminize and denegrate a group of people (women in this case) it makes violence against them more acceptable.

Was2,

If I were to try and be extremely polite your comment is quite a leap in "logic". Some people live in a world where two completely disconnected things become connected in their mind simply because they're angry about something. When I read it my initial reaction was, "Huh?!"

For the record, I found Avery's comment hilarious, yet I do not support violence, especially against women. You are making absolutely zero sense and seem to live in a fantasy world where everyone is always nice to each other. Go on your children's Facebook profiles and read the comments they leave for each other.

//Avery used a term in use in every Jr High in the country.//

Exactly. He's a grown man, representing his team, and by extention the NHL, and he acted like a 13-year-old.

//Was it senseless, yes, was it neede, nope, was it something that should cost him his job, hardly.//

It's not going to cost him his job. He was suspended, not fired. And as I and others have pointed out, this is not his first offense. He's harassed and bullied his own teammates, dished out countless cheap shots to opponents, and embarrassed the NHL countless times.

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It's a graphic sexual term. Maybe it's filtered down through the culture and lost some of its vulgarity among younger people, but to us oldies it's completely inappropriate.

Avery absolutely understood and meant the sexual intimations of his remark. He's heard all the "Avery is gay" and "Sean Gavery" stuff because of his interest in fashion, and he was firing back. He said:

"I just want to comment on how it's become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my sloppy seconds. I don't know what that's about..."

Get it? These guys all want my sloppy seconds, gee what's that about? Think about what the term originally meant and you'll get what he was saying. Totally inappropriate for the game.

Anyway, he'll get two or three games, tops.

There is nothing wrong with the Avery suspension, I don't understand why people think that league's need to put up with garbage like this from its players. The NFL puts up with it all the time, all the crap Chad Johnson, T.O, Pacman and others pull regularly is nonsense. The NHL is showing that it will not put up with garbage from its players, there is no need for this and the NHL is showing that it won't deal with it anymore. If the league provides you a job, they have no responsibility to put up with you running your mouth in a way that makes the league look bad, it's that simple. Avery is a moron and a sore for the league, there is no reason they cant tell him to get out.

What I am stating in not somehing I have thought but something I learned. If you look at Phillip Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Exiperiment or any of Jane Elliots blue eye brown eye expirements, you will find my prievious statement is indeed fact.

Avery's comment although unsavory is more of a reflection of himself than his team or the league. Don't fine him or suspend him, he is just a puke. As for the comment on the fan's girlfriend. Me thinks he had a bit too much to drink. I get angry at the players who are not respecting the game, but the matter will be delivered by the players in the league. One day Avery will be without a job or he will be the victim of a good check albeit deliberate. Lastly the NHL needs to spend more time on the charging, boarding, and the butt ending that are rules in the book but are not called. Clean up the game and the Avery's will disappear. Mind you so will the unskilled enforcers. A hard hitting clean player like Lucic or better yet Dion Phenuef are players the NHL should honor.

Was2,

Please stop degrading all of the strong, intelligent, vibrant women I have been friends with, dated, helped raise and worked with over the years. These women understand that equality lies in taking the good with the bad. It is a woman's right to have relations with any other consenting adult they choose, but with that right, just as with men comes exposure to the right of other people to express their opinion of it, male and female, liked and disliked. Equality is not in only having people tell you how good you are, or that they like what you are or may have done.

And no. Defending a statement that’s far less harsh than most people here driving in rush hour traffic, shopping on black friday, in the stands at any sporting event, or a day time soap as undeserving of suspension is not the same as advocating violence against women. It's not even a member of the same phylum, family, or kingdom. I have in the past stopped violence against people who couldn't defend themselves and hope not to have to do so in the future. If i do, it will be regardless of their gender, as it always has been.

What you are advocating is equality by convenience. While I'm all for learning from other cultures, you certainly appear to be advocating a form of sexual discussion most people in the Victorian Era would find quite comfortable. Think carefully about that for a few minutes.

As for the Stanford Prison Study, you are quite obviously as much a student of psychology as you are of logic. In the SPS, they gentlemen involved were caught up in what I’ll call a shared illusion for the sake of brevity. Each of the men involved somehow fell into their role almost simultaneously. I fail to see how this in any way, shape for form equates to the Avery situation.

As for the use of the term “sloppy seconds”, I’m sure it was deliberate. It wouldn’t surprise me if he did rehearse it. But honestly, it really is more of an insult directed at the person who follows the ‘original’ person to congregate with the shared partner, than the shared partner. It implies quite heavily that the person entertained second is incapable of finding their own paramour, that they are the type of person who wishes to catch a potential partner on the rebound, that the shared partner secretly (or not so secretly) prefers the first person or some combination of those. Honestly, what century are we living in when it is shocking to imply that two adults who display affection publicly, and spend unchaperoned time together might have had a consensual, intimate, physical relationship?

Folks, we're closing the books on this Avery stuff.