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Seidenberg on Bergeron

Posted by Fluto Shinzawa, Globe Staff January 9, 2009 02:35 PM

From his recollection of the Dec. 20 collision that left Patrice Bergeron with a concussion, Dennis Seidenberg had skated through the neutral zone with speed, crossed over the red line, and dumped the puck into the Boston end.

"I carried the puck out of our zone, tried to get the red line, and tried to get the puck deep into their zone," Seidenberg said. "He tried to hold the red line to force an icing. I got rid of the puck, I saw him coming, and I kind of braced myself. He must have tripped or fell into me with his jaw a little bit. It must have just caught him right on my shoulder there. Definitely strange. He tried to hold the red line. That's an everyday play. The timing was a little off, I guess, and he hurt himself."

Seidenberg was pleased to hear that Bergeron is improving.

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14 comments so far...
  1. Good to hear definitely, but I think we all know that Seidenberg wasn't going in for a hit on Bergeron and it certainly wasn't a dirty play in any capacity. It's too bad what happened but, that's hockey for ya.

    Posted by AL January 9, 09 02:44 PM
  1. Seidenberg didn't do anything wrong. His hit was clean and fair. This new concussion is entirely a result of the unforgivable hit from last season. Concussion victims often never recover from the initial hit. After the first, anything mildly violent to the head will bring it all back. We can't ask the rest of the league to not hit Bergie ever again.

    This sad chain of events stands as a reminder of Randy Jones's sickeningly brief punishment. What, three games? For a hit that may have claimed Bergeron's career, just as Ulf Samuelsson destroyed Cam Neely? Just sickening. Jones may not be a dirty player, but that hit sure was. And now we all have to brace ourselves for the possibility that Bergeron will never recover. Thanks, Randy.

    Anyway, get better, Bergie... take your time...

    Posted by pstar January 9, 09 03:09 PM
  1. //This new concussion is entirely a result of the unforgivable hit from last season//

    That's funny, as Bergeron said his doctor told him just the opposite.

    Posted by duinne January 9, 09 03:34 PM
  1. The best thing now is that he is already working out on the bike. He shouldn't have the issue last year where he lost 15-20 lbs because of inactivity and then had to build himself back up to his playing weight. Hopefully he can keep progessing with no setbacks.

    To think how good this team could be with Bergie back 100%......

    Posted by ogie oglethorpe January 9, 09 03:45 PM
  1. Pstar,

    This concussion has NOTHING to do with last years. Bergerons Doctors have stated as much. It was the angle he hit his chin and the force coupled together, it would have happened to anyone in the same situation.

    Posted by b&gbleeder January 9, 09 03:46 PM
  1. b&gbleeder interesting point,ok...since it hasn't anything to do with the prevoius one...is he more prone to others? It took these highly educated Dr's years on years to finally prove that concussions were actual brain injuries..Since actually being a victim of these brain bruises as Kluzak refers to them, I know for a fact that after suffering a severe concussion, you are never 100% better and your road is paved for more and more, you don't have to be hit very hard to bring on another..the marker is already there...for more...My honest opinion...Be prepared for a big let down if Bergeron comes back to soon....I'm not so sure anymore...I wish him well!

    Posted by AD January 9, 09 04:22 PM
  1. This one is simple physics. It wouldn't have mattered if last years had happened or not. Both guys were skating, Seidenberg was moving at a good clip, Bergeron made contact at a bad angle. These doctors have a hell of a lot more and better tools to use evaluating how people get injured and access then injuries than they did 20 years ago, and they have all those years of documenting the injuries.

    It's like dropping a glass on the floor, if it hits on one angle you've got shards, if it hits at many others nothing happens except you pick it up and wash it.

    I watched the video of him today. He's lost all of two pounds vs last years 15, he's already working out after about three weeks, last year at three months he wasn't that far along. When he talked his eyes and facial expression were alert but tired, not like last years conference where he looked like he shouldn't have been out of bed.

    Posted by b&gbleeder January 9, 09 05:32 PM
  1. He's prone to concussions since he has a glass jaw. Some people are more prone to concussions naturally. I'm not trying to sound tough or anything, but I've been hit hard in the head a few times playing sports, and I don't remember ever getting a concussion.

    Posted by Craig January 9, 09 05:32 PM
  1. Craig if he's got such a glass jaw how did he not get his first concussion until he was in his 20s and not in his teens or younger its not like Juniors or neighborhood games are exactly non contact.

    Posted by b&gbleeder January 9, 09 06:00 PM
  1. If he has a "glass jaw," then why didn't it break when he got hit?

    People who are not doctors should not be making diagnoses.

    Posted by duinne January 9, 09 07:15 PM
  1. I read what Bergie said the doctor said. I'd like to believe it. Not sure I do. Hope I'm wrong.

    Posted by Medford Mickey January 9, 09 10:05 PM
  1. glass jaw isnt to be taken literally, its a term used mostly for boxers who have a tough time taking a punch to the jaw without head/brain injury. You could get whacked on top of the head all day and be fine and get hit on the right spot on your jaw and get knocked out or a concussion... I beleive that is what was meant by 'glass jaw'.

    and those who are doctors SHOULD make a diagnosis and they did and they said it had nothing to do with his previous concussion.

    Posted by mattyw January 10, 09 02:57 AM
  1. To be technical:

    "Ossification is the gradual conversion of cartilage or other tissue into bone. At birth ossification is not complete, there are still may membrane filled spaces in the skull, these are called fontanels or "soft spots". Most bone growth occurs during childhood, and ossification of most bones is usually complete by age 25. The 5 bones of the sacrum fuse together from ages 18 to 25. When all bone growth is complete the body is said to be skeletally mature."

    http://www.cancerindex.org/medterm/medtm6.htm

    Posted by Craig January 10, 09 04:54 AM
  1. "glass jaw" doesnt mean it breaks easy just that its easier to get a concussion/ knockedout.

    Posted by markB January 10, 09 08:31 AM
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