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Posted by Chad Finn, Globe Staff February 26, 2009 05:59 AM

We don't change the station, and so the station sees no need to change. Ratings are huge, possibly even as huge as the station claims. Its primary demographic has tremendous appeal to advertisers. And New England’s fanatical dedication to the professional sports teams that the station’s hosts bloviate about in four-hour blocks is seemingly endless.

And so there you have it: WEEI. Your sports-radio leader. A perfect storm of arrogance.

What’s that adage about pompous silver-spooners? He was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple? That fits certain WEEI hosts as comfortably as a Bloomin’ Onion–stained Tommy Bahama shirt. They think the station’s success somehow reflects on them, that we tune in for their shrill banter, contrived characters, and prefabricated opinions. We don’t — never have, never will. We listen because we love sports, our beloved teams are enjoying a remarkable run of success, and WEEI happens to have both access and broadcast rights. Most of all, we listen because there is no other decent local alternative with a signal stronger than that of a ham radio.

Now, I’m not suggesting all WEEI programming beats your eardrums into submission. Dale and Holley are engaging in the midday, and Mut and Bradford make those weekend chores pass quicker. But it is telling that the two smartest sports radio shows in the city in recent years — Michael Felger’s drive-time program on ESPN 890 and the Ryen Russillo/Jon Anik/Anthony Pepe crew on WWZN 1510 — were broadcast elsewhere on the dial. If only either had owned a signal that didn’t turn into a French-language station a mile from the Zakim Bridge, they might have gained the appropriate audience.

So to feed our unquenchable sports jones, we have no choice but to suffer the WEEI banshees. But that doesn’t stop us from longing for something better, something not only entertaining but intelligent, passionate, and insightful.

We’re not here today for the purpose of holding a sports radio fantasy draft, but for a moment consider the station you could build — and the one ESPN Boston should have built — with roster depth that included the best of the Globe and ESPN, underrated talents such as Russillo and Mike Giardi, as well as the requisite WEEI refugees. (Remember Steve DeOssie after he skipped over to 1510? Thoughtful and articulate. On WEEI? An overgrown Scut Farkas.)

Maybe I’m naïve. Maybe the average Boston sports fan is less sophisticated than I want to believe. But I’m convinced that provided with an equal signal, some savvy program director could build what WEEI claims to be: the premier sports radio station in the country. And just in case such a benefactor happens to have read this far, at no charge we offer you a thinking fan’s guide to the real dos and don’ts of sports radio in Boston.

Have a well-considered opinion and the knowledge to defend it in an entertaining manner: No, passing yourself off as some sort of insider because of an association with the Celtics two decades ago does not count, particularly when there is mounting suspicion that you haven’t watched more than a handful of out-of-market NBA games since the days of short shorts and sky hooks. In a related note: Yelling the loudest doesn’t make you right. Didn’t your mom ever teach you that?

After you've beaten a story to death, please resist the temptation to beat on the corpse daily for another several weeks: Wait, wait, wait … you’re telling me Manny Ramirez quit on the Red Sox? And they traded him? When did this happen? How come you never mentioned this, Mikey? HOW COME YOU NEVER MENTIONED THIS??!!

No more celebrity callers ...: Call it the Glenn Ordway Corollary: The more obnoxious the caller, the more airtime he gets. It’s a cornerstone of the lucrative business of pandering to the lowest common denominator. But I can’t be the only one who lunges for the scan button as soon as “Angry Bill” and his miserable brethren begin spewing their first word of venom.

... or sycophantic co-hosts: Ah, another Ordway self-preservation tactic. Surround yourself with a couple of knowledgeable co-hosts, then fill out the rest of the cast with talking-head lightweights and cronies who will argue with you only to the point where you say zip it, refuse to point out your factual missteps, and, for the sake of a paycheck, willingly play clichéd characters appropriate for a failed soap-opera actor. That way, you’re irreplaceable, since there’s no obvious successor to the throne. Brilliant! Also: Unlistenable!

In order to qualify for airtime, a co-host has to be able to put two consecutive syllables together without his tongue tripping over his mustache: Don’t worry, big guy. You’re halfway there.

Hosts are not permitted eight-part questions so long and windy that they require a syllabus and stretch from one commercial break to the next: That means you, Dennis … Denito … Dentillo …

Talk politics or the news story of the day when the moment calls for it: Credit where credit is due: WEEI was riveting radio in the days after September 11. The tone was sincere, heartfelt, and human. Since then, however, the tone regarding politics and world matters has become so extreme that certain hosts make Dick Cheney look like a beatnik. Worse is the increasingly snide disregard for those with different circumstances, views, and — the case certainly can be made — pigment. It’s one thing to be provocative, but too often that crosses the line to irresponsibility. Sure, a certain element is enthralled — hillbillies and cavemen, mostly. Others are simply waiting for the inevitable repulsive comment that leads to your downfall.

Enough with the drop-ins from comedians who'd bomb at the Ha-Ha House of Whiskey and Waffles: And if some clown named Shecky does find his way into the studio — either as a guest or as your nighttime host — have some dignity and refrain from hee-hawing and chortling and racing to laugh loudest as if he’s the reincarnation of George Carlin. He’s not. He’s a D-lister with a captive audience, and his best jokes wouldn’t make the cut for the Whiner Line. Which, by the way, is the best thing you have going. We might note the material comes not from you, but from the listeners. We’re going to assume you miss the irony of that.

OT columnist Chad Finn is a sports reporter for Boston.com and can be reached at finn@globe.com

875 comments so far...
  1. Sounds like sour grapes to me!

    Posted by Brian February 26, 09 08:30 AM
  1. You're joking right?? Chad finn can't even write a decent article in the paper? Now he's going to criticize talk radio!! Try fixing your writing first you HUGE HACK!!!!!!

    Posted by scotprim February 26, 09 08:40 AM
  1. Thank god someone wrote this. WEEI in mornings and afternoon drive is unlistenable.

    Posted by Dan February 26, 09 08:43 AM
  1. AMEN!

    Posted by Brett February 26, 09 08:47 AM
  1. Some hosts are Ok, some drive me nuts. Can we keep the politics out of it? I never listen in the AM anymore. My biggest complaint is the long long long long commercial breaks.

    Posted by Justin February 26, 09 08:53 AM
  1. Anyone who disagrees with Chad Finn's statements does NOT understand radio.
    Real radio, true radio. With the exception of Dale and Holley, these amateurs who've come from TV and print always chant the mantra that, 'anyone can do radio'. True to the point of talking into a microphone but not good, effective radio. This is why the undustry is losing out to satellite and the internet. Where are you GM's and PD's who have a spine? Cultivate a format that can hold and entertain an audience where they'll devote their listenership and eventually their wallets to you. It's called investment. Having working in radio

    Posted by Tesla Marconi February 26, 09 08:57 AM
  1. Ha...The whine and cheese crowd is sounding off...EEI has the higher ratings
    than your stupid National Socialist Paper sounds like sour grapes....guess
    you want the fairness doctrine for WEEI.

    Posted by Rickg February 26, 09 09:05 AM
  1. Gutsy column, sure to bring out the basement dwellers. I confess what bothers me the most is the constant interruption of callers (most egregiously and often done by the self-appointed historian of all things Boston sports.) Personally, I've stopped listening entirely to Reich Radio in the morning and tune in mostly from 10 to six. Saturdays have improved immeasurably since they've transitioned from Yankee talk. Anyway, look forward to the discussion!

    Posted by Harrybosch February 26, 09 09:12 AM
  1. Sounds like someone is a little upset he can't be heard, you sound like a whine bag, jealousy gets you no where but on something called the OT.

    Posted by Buddy03p February 26, 09 09:13 AM
  1. Chad, did you put that bull's eye on your back all by yourself or did someone help you do it? You'll either get creamed as a no-talent hack or dismissed as a no-talent hack. No worries, we all and your mother know the truth.
    You are absolutely right, of course, down to the part where the ESPN signal was lost right in the middle of Felger being cranky about something Belichick.
    Unfortunately, you tip-toed around the most aggregious offense of the WEEI screaming grunts, particularly the pseudo-intelligent duo in the morning. That is their outright racism. They were censored and re-instated by the station some years ago for the Metco student insult. That episode spoke volumes about their true feeling as individuals and the station's stand in the matter of who they hire and the quality of what goes out over the air waves every day. It's sad that a major market like Boston only serves our worst selves and doesn't provide something better and smarter.

    Posted by RocksInHerHead February 26, 09 09:15 AM
  1. Wow. Chad Finn is absolutely dropping bombs. Many of them are spot on.

    The only problem: it IS the best, most successful sports radio station in the country. I've been around most of it, and what's out there isn't much better. In fact, it isn't better. I'll pass on Mike Francesa and Jim Rome, thanks.

    Big props to Dale and Holley for being the best show on the station.

    Posted by I.B.M. February 26, 09 09:16 AM
  1. I agree with much of what is said. WEEI has become unlistenable in recent years with all it's comic bits and silly promotions. The Big Show is by far the worst show with co-hosts like studdering Smerlas and that ridiculous Pete Sheppard. It is 4 hours of moronic commentary with 4 people shouting over each other. How does that show get top ratings? I used to listen to Felgar's show on ESPN instead whenever I could get the signal.
    Dale and Holley is the most cerebral of the shows, but even they resort to stupid gimmicks and cheesie sound effects instead of just talking sports. I enjoy have enjoyed the balance of politics and sport on Dennis and Callahan and think they raise some good issues. At least they bring some intelligent conversation to the table rather than the crap from Planet Mikey or the Big Show.

    Posted by Paul February 26, 09 09:17 AM
  1. Wonderful piece...I've felt this way forever.

    I am desperate for a good local sports talk in the morning, but suffer through Mike & Mike steroid talk on 890 because D&C is so off-putting.

    Posted by Paul February 26, 09 09:29 AM
  1. I live in NJ but was brought up in Boston and look forward to listening to WEEI whenever I'm in the area...until I get there. I always thought that much of NY sports radio appealed to the lowest common denominator, but Boston shows are so incredibly amateurish they make Wayne's World look like Face the Nation. Why the constant shouting over each other's voices, the corny and competely unfunny bantering? You can be successful simply talking sports with listeners and interviewing guests. You don't need all the extra commentary that makes most of these shows unlistenable.

    Posted by Richard Barron February 26, 09 09:29 AM
  1. Absolutely. If I want political opinions to the right of Atilla the Hun, I will listen to Russ L. I would prefer sports and, ideally without the gender and racial bias.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 09:33 AM
  1. I love listening to WEEI for sports, when they are not talking politics the whole time.

    Posted by Danny February 26, 09 09:33 AM
  1. awesome!!!!...i also love th 20 minute commerical breaks

    Posted by BC February 26, 09 09:34 AM
  1. I only listen 10 - 2 so I'm pretty happy with the station. Unless it's something special like a trade deadline in the late afternoon, four hours is enough to keep you well informed, and for the most part you can avoid the shouting matches.

    Posted by DuhChief February 26, 09 09:35 AM
  1. This column is absolutely on point. I live in CT, I lose the signal to WFAN often, so I go to WEEI. I prefer to listen to the ah...New York broadcast even though I am a die hard sox/celts fan. Listening to WEEI gives me nausea, it frustrates me how 3,4,5, "hosts" talk over each other, the callers, and make it unlistenable. Forget the fact that a callers opinion will be ridiculed even if it was the same opinion as one of the hosts just moments before the call.
    Then there is the politics in the morning. I am neither a Republican or a Democrat. I tend to go with the best person for the job, and the one I believe can lead us the best. Unfortunately, the 2 morning hosts are so far to the right it is scary. They also seem very out of touch with reality. To quote one of them "we are winning the war in Iraq". Winning? We are in Iraq to liberate them, not to conquer! We are in that country based on false pretense "WMDs" and we are winning?

    My suggestion, Keep Dale and Holley, get Merloni full time for baseball season, and start over with the rest. The weekend crew is adequate....

    Posted by Richard Smith February 26, 09 09:41 AM
  1. AMEN! thank god for Sirius radio when I'm in the car. Also 'eei should be the all "commercial break station", from 6AM til 6PM half the air time is spent listening to windshield replacement and "the biggest no brainer in the history of earth" ads!

    Posted by Phil February 26, 09 09:44 AM
  1. Well said, Chad. Wonder if they'll be grunting and spitting over this column today at 2pm to paint you as some kind of jealous BG liberal.... Doesn't matter though, because I won't be tuning in to find out. The narcissism of the EEI hosts is sickening

    Posted by Jim February 26, 09 09:44 AM
  1. Best column that I can remember. WFAN has more to offer at all hours of the day.
    None of the Spiro Agnew worshipping or talking down to each caller when your
    not outshouting them. By the way, is the most used phrase in the after noon,"Hold
    on, Hold on , Hold on ?" How about the mentions of the side businesses in Rhode Island and Foxborough. Yeah ,I need to know how I can shell out hunderds of dollars to stand in a tent and rub elbows with these big shots.
    The cockiness of these over fed elephants is sickening.There is nothing for themto be cocky about.

    Posted by bobcat February 26, 09 09:48 AM
  1. I couldn't agree more. I actually did listen to 890 for Felger's show and 1510 for Sean McDonough's show and wish those alternatives were still available. Holley and Dale are not as arrogant as the others and Mike Adams, though not arrogant, is just not very knowledgable on any sport including baseball. I think the good co-hosts are Tom Curran, Steve Buckley, Cedric Maxwell, Steve Nelson, Paul Perillo, and I wouldn't mind Fred Smerlas without Deossie. The worst are Butch Stearns, Bill Burt, Brian Daubach, Larry Johnson and Pete Shepard as flashguy. I can't believe D&C survived their Metco joke and clearly their arrogance will do them in at some point

    Posted by John February 26, 09 09:50 AM
  1. It's encouraging to finally see that someone has come out and state what so many sports fans, with even the slightest desire to hear a well rounded sports story or argument, has been thinking for years. WEEI is such a poor excuse for a radio station that it's an embarrassment to know that it emanates from Boston (a city which remains home to many of the elite educational institutions, is a cultural and historical center and medical mecca). It would be more acceptable if we were picking up a radio signal from some hick "anywhere" town in the US. Chad Finn hits it on the head when he points out (the obvious fact) that this is a station which is benefitting from the riches of a great and lengthy sports history (much of which is dotted with success). "Lowest Common Demoniator" is a kind term to use since it suggests an average of poor and well informed opinions. And this doesn't even scratch the surface of the deep frustrations many must feel in tuning into a SPORTS show to hear about everything other than that. - Current Events, Politics, Entertainment, Movie Reviews...most of which come from people who have a historical perspective that barely reaches beyond the borders of Attelboro, Stockbridge and Andover and whose point of reference and personal experience can be encapsulated into the "currency of the cultural realm of contemporary America" and our exposure to voyeuristic, juvenile, and prurient fascination with shows like "24", "American Idol", "Survivor" and personalities an inch deep and a foot wide. As Mr. Finn pointed out there are, to be sure, lights at the end of that dark and fecal tunnel: like Michael Holley, Ryan Rusillo, Dale Arnold and Michael Felger. Smart, focused, responsible and respectful hosts who understand, it’s not about THEM. However much this station may feel like they have a monopoly they do not...you simply change the dial and tune in every so often (as I now do) on the rare chance that you might actually hear SPORTS TALK and it might actually be illuminating. It's like playing the lottery, you take a chance every once in a while and hope you get lucky. Kudos to you Mr. Finn for speaking up and pointing out "The Emperor Has No Clothes".

    Posted by A Frustrated Sports Fan February 26, 09 09:51 AM
  1. I stopped listening to WEEI about six months ago for exactly the reasons you state. I loved to listen to Michael Silverman, Felger, and Tony Mazz, but Ordway et al just got too much for me to take. I also read BostonHerald.com daily, but now that Mazz is on Boston.com I am a convert tere as well. I can imagine Ordway going ballistic after he reads your column, but I won't be listening.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 09:51 AM
  1. EEI is pretty good....they (like everything else in life) have their ups and downs. I think Dennis and Callahan have some decent guests but Callahan drives me crazy with his closed minded political rants and Dennis can have somewhat of an elitist /pompous attitude....Dale and Holly are ok.. but I do like the hockey guests and interviews...the Big Show can be funny at times but Ordway drives me crazy when he interrupts callers and tries to domninate the conversation(let the callers finish a sentence before you interrupt by saying "hold on...hold on...hold on"...that drives me crazy!! and Pete Sheperd is a know-nothing screaming jerk

    Posted by JB52 February 26, 09 09:59 AM
  1. "Worse is the increasingly snide disregard for those with different circumstances, views, and — the case certainly can be made — pigment."

    I couldn't disagree more. I know you are referring to Callahan. You are 100% correct regarding him not understanging or refusing to see someone else's views but to suggest he might be racist (essentially you are by making that comment) is absurd and extremely unfair. I just wish you had left the 'pigment' comment out because that type of slander angers me more than anything.

    Posted by Brandon February 26, 09 09:59 AM
  1. I could not agree with you more. When there is a moment in the hour when they aren't playing commercials, you are forced to listen to people speak over each other, cut each other off, and argue a point without giving factual information. The level of intellect and insight could be found in any dive bar where you would stop for a beer waiting for a train, and be forced to listen to a factless and illogical debate. The Mcdonough Group was exactly what was right with sports talk radio. Well-delivered, educated opinions held in a forum of professionals (let alone adults). Thank you for pointing out something that most of us with brain matter actually believe in. This town needs a serious alternative to the pompous, child banter that is WEEI.

    Posted by DennisT February 26, 09 10:07 AM
  1. Wow, I couldn't agree with you more. I can't believe how these "radio personalities" can think their opinions are always the only one's you should have. Their arrogance, outright rudeness to callers and almighty attitude is irritating. Also, why is it that some sportscasters on tv turn try to turn their segment into some comedy show? Just report the scores, I'm not really interested in any of your snide, sarcastic silly puns.

    Posted by Brent February 26, 09 10:08 AM
  1. Thank you Chad for saying what a lot of us have been thinking.
    I despair of Sports Talk Radio in this current form

    I grew up listening to Jake Liston (who was my uncle by the way) and the others back in the 70's when Sports Radio was insightful and intelligent.

    What passes for it today whould dissapoint him no end..

    Posted by Dennis February 26, 09 10:17 AM
  1. It was refreshing this morning to wake up and hear Felger instead of D&C.

    Posted by Dave M February 26, 09 10:23 AM
  1. why bother? SIRIUS XM Radio

    Posted by Dave Mc Carty February 26, 09 10:29 AM
  1. WEEI sucks across the board. D&C are conservative blow hards, Dale and Holly are homers, at least you can listen to them without your ears bleeding. In hell people are forced to listen to the best of Glen Ordway...planet Mikey lacks insight.

    Good work Chad

    Posted by Tim February 26, 09 10:29 AM
  1. Couldn't agree with you more. Da;e and Holley are ok but Dennis & Callahan hardly talk about sports and I can't really understand the Big Show cause all they do is talk over each other

    Posted by BabbaB February 26, 09 10:30 AM
  1. Are you people crazy? Go anywhere else in the WORLD and listen to sports radio. Then get back to me.

    Posted by Mike Honcho February 26, 09 10:41 AM
  1. EEI is horrendous except when Felger is on

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 10:42 AM
  1. Sounds like a guy who is desparate to get people to read his column. I, for one, love listening to Dale and Holley (more so for Holley)...However, when you call out a host of a show, that is just wrong. He is there to raise points and get topics on the table. Are you telling me that Lou Merloni isn't credible? He is the best thing that has happend to that station since the departure of Neumi.

    So please Chad, this will be the last time I read an article of yours. It's funny when Red Sox camp is quiet, the media starts to turn on each other. I have a feeling you are going to be BLASSSSSSSSTED this afternoon on the show, and I will happily be listening. Jeaslousy is a funny thing. Even when you type it out.

    Posted by EEI Fan February 26, 09 10:42 AM
  1. Spot on. The morning show has way too much political talk and is too right wing (and I'm a republican!). Even during the playoffs they need to dedicate half their show to right wing rantings. Afternoon show is good. Drive show show is cronny hour - Fred and Pete gotta go. Their homer TV Football show is no better. Whinner line is great however.

    I did enjoyed Felger on 890, but could barely listen to the station and it had too much national contenet for my taste. Why to speak up against WEEI.

    Posted by Wick February 26, 09 10:42 AM
  1. Ok, I get where all this is coming from, and I agree that the talking over each other and the routine shouting has simply got to stop. But I do love Freddy, like Dale (not Holley), and the station does have the access, which covers somewhat for the of subtlety they obviously lack. So that alone gets them at least a B.

    I live in the Atlanta area and the college coverage is so bad (read: constant) that I listen to EEI on the 'net. I think if you had to listen to some of what passes for sports radio down here, you'd not be so heated in the criticism. But yeah, they could make some simple moves and move into A category pretty quickly, imho.

    Posted by Celtic86 February 26, 09 10:44 AM
  1. do yourselves a HUGE favor. get sirius radio and listen to Mike & Mike in the morning, who actually like to discuss sports, as opposed to simply sputtering angry and hateful comments on all topics non-sport related.

    Posted by Gerry is an ignorat tool. February 26, 09 10:46 AM
  1. If any - ANY - any any any station with the same wattage covered sports, that's right covered SPORTS, EEI would see their market share start to dwindle and, if they didn't change, even rotund Ordway would die on the vine.

    In all honesty, it's half-not their fault. I'm sure they are encouraged by the station to do just what they are doing. joen dennis must look in the mirror every morning and laugh himself to the station. Callghan has become a caricature of himself -- he sounds so extreme now, I expect to listen to the John Birch Society editorials. He used to be a welcome balance to a left-leaning state -- now, I keep expecting him to explain how McCarthyism was a myth and that Ann Coulter should be on the supreme Court in the next Republican admin.

    Love that Felgie is on -- they guy has his wacky side, but not like Mikey -- he knows his stuff. Dale & holley are great too.

    Know who wouyld be great in either the AM or PM Drives? Neumie and Felgie -- geez, save the big bucks for these guys instead of the blowhards. At least I can listen to ESPN with just a little static instead of these guys.

    EEI PM drive time is more a place where guys have a chance to put themselves on the stage between call in and the Whiner Line... and oh yeah, beating long-dead horses.

    This article is waaaaaayy to long in coming.

    Posted by TH February 26, 09 10:52 AM
  1. Wow. Spot on. This column picks up on the comments that were recently made on WEEI.com concerning Callahan's blatant racism, and the general bashing of the morning show. Strangely, WEEI has removed that blog entry and the comments. WEEI CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

    Dale & Holley are the only two talented broadcasters, but unfortunately they are stuck in the 10-2 time zone.

    Posted by Slappy February 26, 09 10:58 AM
  1. Give me a break. Sports are entertainment, and WEEI is very entertaining in the way they deliver. I've listened to nationally syndicated shows which are awful and talk about things irrelevant to us here in the New England market, and even when the topic is intresting, the way it is delivered is boring and stale. This is fun, sports are fun. Its like having a disagreement with a colleague about whats happening in the world of sports.....its funny, its entertaining. We can only hear about Steroids or Spygate for so long. During the course of the day if we just suck with the stories and didn't have the entertainment, the chemistry that shows like the big show deliver, WEEI would have run its course. This is a great station, and I'm glad to have it. We are passionate about our sports here, and its nice to get some laughs with it, and also to hear people with opinions instead of people afraid to have one.......Get a life Chad Finn....you essentially write a blog....who cares what you think........

    Posted by AJG February 26, 09 10:58 AM
  1. People still listen to WEEI? I would love to see the correlation between EEI listeners and Boston Herald subscribers.

    Posted by tonyg February 26, 09 11:01 AM
  1. Chad - don't overestimate the intelligence of the local fandom. Just read the various mailbags your colleagues post on a weekly basis, and listen to the callers to the EEIdiots and you'll see the true level of most of the "smahtest fans in the country".

    If that entire station disappeared tomorrow, the world would be a better place.

    Posted by fu1eye February 26, 09 11:01 AM
  1. "but to suggest he might be racist (essentially you are by making that comment) is absurd and extremely unfair."

    Oh please. What is absurd is painting Callahan as anything BUT a racist.

    Posted by ME February 26, 09 11:03 AM
  1. Chad who? I am amused by the comments of those that don't listen, and their keen insight into the goings on of the broadcasts. Hmmm, neat trick, maybe they read the transcripts - or they listen to the segments posted here at Boston.com. Either way, the whine and cheese folk (gender bias? - Yeah let's hear that riveting BC Women's basketball talk) complaining here about whine and cheesy folk at the local station sounds odd to a dedicated channel flipper such as myself. Why complain about 20 minute commercial breaks (which occur when they are recording interviews with people like Francona, Belichick, Rivers, Brady, Bruschi, Garnett, etc.) unless you miss what you are listening to? With soooo many bad FM stations in Boston (including one run by a computer with the same name as the robotic PM host at WEEI - on that point I agree) why doesn't the Media heavyweight author here campaign for a challenger? Hell, WBCN toyed with the idea when they negotiated with D & C awhile back (yeah, what does make them think they are responsible for ratings - maybe the actions of their competitors?). Stop complaining and get it done...if you are right, it'll work.

    Posted by King James February 26, 09 11:06 AM
  1. EEI, you are slightly moronic. Of course Chad will get blasted on EEI for this article. That's the point. They don't even care. 95 percent of these comments are in agreement with Finn, but will anything change? No. Why? Because the hosts of the shows are so arrogant that they can not comprehend criticism. They only know how to BLAST. Instead of understanding that a column was written, and that most people agree with it, the Big O, Callahan, etc. will just blast away and call Finn a hack.

    Posted by Peeps February 26, 09 11:06 AM
  1. Chad Finn is giving Boston sports fans entirely too much credit here. The days of this being a region of nothing but die-hard, super knowledgeable sports fans is long over. Sure, those people are still around, but they're greatly outnumbered by bandwagon jumpers, homers, and morons for whom people like Mike Adams and everyone on the Big Show are actually entertaining.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 11:11 AM
  1. Wah, wah, wah. If you whiny bitches don't like the content on 'EEI, then change the channel. No one is forcing you to listen. You people who cry about the hosts talking politics are the same ones bitching about them beating topics to death. When it's a slow news day in sports, what would you like them to talk about? Can't have it both ways, whiners.
    'EEI is far from perfect, but if it is such a flawed radio station, as all of you geniuses point out, they would have gone out of business years ago.

    Posted by Tiki & Torch February 26, 09 11:11 AM
  1. Yes! Yes! Yes! I share your opinions across the board. Can't stand to listen any more. I will tune in for the occasional breaking story, but find myself switching stations as soon as I get the update.

    Posted by CPin19 February 26, 09 11:12 AM
  1. Bravo. Yesterday afternoon Glen was trying to look at a photo of something on Google all by himself.

    He did not know what Google Image was.

    Butch Stearns had to point it out to h im.

    Posted by PhantomPhanPhortyEight February 26, 09 11:13 AM
  1. Thank you Chad for writing, what I, and EVERY other Boston Sports Fan have been discussing for years.

    WEEI's ratings are a reflection of being the only game in town... NOT because of talent, or work ethic.

    In 11 years, I have never heard a well researched, thoughtful opinion.

    Would it be that difficult to bring some elegance, and intelligence to the station?

    Thank you again for your article.


    Posted by MBARRETT17 February 26, 09 11:17 AM
  1. YES YES YES!!! I agree 1000%

    Posted by papsister February 26, 09 11:17 AM
  1. Many good points made, CF. If I was building a 'fantasy sportsradio station' as you suggest, I'd leave D&H at midday and put Felger and Merloni in PM drive...call it the 'Real Lou & Mike Show' if you want. I think Lou actually wants to be an all-around sportstalk host, not just a baseball analyst, and he is knowledgeable about other sports. In the mornings, Tom Curran's combination of knowledge and wit would make him an ideal morning co-host in my mind. He would probably pair up best with a McDonough/Russillo type, perhaps even John Rooke if you want a nice contrast of regional accents.

    Posted by TO February 26, 09 11:21 AM
  1. Coming to you from Chicago, where, believe it or not, out sports talk is worse. That's why I listen to EEI on the internet. Correction, I listen to Dale and Holley, and I enjoy Lou Merloni's insight. But I gave up on D&C two years ago. And I gave up on Ordway this week.
    Ordway this week has had idiotic, boorish, bloviant rants about Sean Penn, the economy in Fort Myers (we should care because Glenn owns property there? REALLY?) and the Jim Calhoun post-game exchange. And he's been as knowledgeable and insightful on these topics as a bucket of sand.
    And Pete Sheppard ... Why does he have this job? What does he bring to the table, aside from a bucket of fried chicken?
    But lets face it - sports talk radio is lowest common denominator entertainemnt, period, no matter where you are. In general, it's not good. The fact that Ordway has high ratings is proof of that.
    (I do enjoy Dan Patrick on his new non ESPN show, and Tony Kornheiser (yes, when he's not on MNF he's VERY, VERY good). Patrick and Kornheiser are on XM.)

    Posted by Chris in Illinois February 26, 09 11:26 AM
  1. ok, fine, just don't make it sound like Felger is somehow a man apart. he's just as much an exhibitionist as the Big Show guys. Actually, more so.

    Posted by json February 26, 09 11:26 AM
  1. You lose all credibility when you mention Anthony Pepe, John Anik and the Felger show as viable alternatives. Sorry Chad, but that's fraudulent... that proves you and the Bruce Allen crowd and his sycophants are nothing but axe grinders. Anthony Pepe is an off-air promotions guy that BOUGHT AND PAID FOR his air time... and you talk about being born on third base ? Mutt and Bradford is one of the most awkward, contrived pieces of crap on the radio... but the next time you see your blogging buddy Rob at Fenway I'm sure he'll be glad you gave him a plug.

    Also, you might want to do a little research Chad. 1510 and 890 both have signals as strong as 850 within the 128 belt. There are PLENTY of potential listening sports fans within that range... so why could neither station muster more than a 0.4 or 1.0 in the ratings ? If these shows are so good, such a viable alternative, if sports radio fans are craving an alternative so badly... shouldn't they be able to muster something more than that crap number within 128 ? 1510 and 890 had MANY print and tv ads to promote their station... something I've never seen WEEI do. Stop with the excuse making... with 1510 and now 890 you claim its the signal that caused their failure, when the fact of the matter is, in the greater Boston area their signals are not nearly as bad as you make it out to be and there are PLENTY of potential listeners who tested it and found WEEI better. No ! That's not possible ! It must be the signal !

    You've done yourself proud with the Bruce Allen crowd and the pseudo-intellectual frauds who believe they're better and more educated than the average sports fan and WEEI listener... this will be top story over there and the 50 people that read that site will call you a hero! And WEEI will still continue to be the most successful station in New England.

    Posted by Jay February 26, 09 11:27 AM
  1. Thank you Chad for having the guts to write this article. I agree that Dale and Holley are the most credible commentators. It's a shame I miss them most of the time. People in the afternoon slots should let people call in regarding Patriots, hockey, badminton , volley ball, WHATEVER THEY WANT! They should not have to be ridiculed by large people with small brains who have a man crush on Brady. It is not THEIR show. It is OUR show. Shouting down callers only leaves you with homers and drunks calling in. Very little insight is discussed. Dennis and Callahan in the morning are the most elitist, pompous people I have ever heard. How the hell does this pass as a sports show when Jerry gets to read the Herald to us every morning? He is a hateful, vicious person whose vitriol only fuels the right wing and the racists. Any competing station that was allowed to challenge these Howard Stern Jocks with anything credible would steal most of the silent sports fans.
    Kudos for the article. WAKE UP EEI !

    Posted by Anne_Coulter_hates_Gerry February 26, 09 11:30 AM
  1. They certainly have a successful business model. However, that doesn't mean they don't suck.

    I wouldn't expect the typical EEI fan/employee posting here in defense of them to be able to comprehend the distinction however.

    Posted by fu1eye February 26, 09 11:30 AM
  1. I consider myself a sports fanatic and think that you are way off the mark. These guys are knowlegeable and usually spot on with sports commentary, updates and entertainment. And, by the way, what would ever posess you to endorse that most arrogant, pompous twit Felger! Talk about a contentious, no talent meathead! In fact, if he were on the show, it would be the only reason I would even hesitate to tune out WEEI.

    Posted by Smac553 February 26, 09 11:31 AM
  1. Nailed it, Chad. I can listen to 'EEI on that rare occasion that I am craving something -- anything sports -- or my iPod is out of battery, or all of my 6 preset music stations are on commercial. Unless I'm in the car when the Whiner Line is on, I don't go there.

    Posted by Ports February 26, 09 11:33 AM
  1. Ok, I have been waiting to unload on this topic,so fwiw here is my 2 cents:

    The EEI day begins badly & ends even worse. D&C in the am & that bufoon in the evening are each virtually unlistenable. In between, it’s not too shabby. I like D&H & I can listen to the big O. Smerlas is another loud mouthed bufoon as far as I’m concerned so when he’s on I tend not to listen. Call me crazy but I liked the interplay between the teacher & the preacher on Sat am, though I don’t miss all the Yankees chatter. This “Mutt man” replacement is a tool IMO & I don’t enjoy his broadcasting personality/style. He’s also on a local station up here in Nashua & I never liked him there either. You talk about beating a story to death? This guy gets on a subject & just refuses to let it go, ie., the Texeria signing by the Yankees. Let it GO already for cryin out loud! I think Ryan Rusillo would be a great addition to the ‘EEI team, maybe as a replacement for “Mikey” the village idiot? What an upgrade that would be! In the morning I have all but given up hope, those guys just signed new contracts & apparently their ratings are good so they are going to be there for awhile. So it’s FSR in the am for me, tho they just botched their programming lineup w/ some recent changes, [sigh].......

    Posted by sportstalkfan February 26, 09 11:34 AM
  1. I haven't listened to WEEI consistently in many many years. I suggest you do the same. It's not worth it. They will never change.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 11:34 AM
  1. I keep hoping for a real challange to EEI. I talmost happened at least twice when the Red Sox were looking at buying a station and when D & c were going to some local network deal using I think 99.5.
    I wish BCN would go all sports they have the Pats they could grab the Bruins who are up for bid to give them product and then hire some intelligent hosts.

    Posted by kevin February 26, 09 11:39 AM
  1. Good for you, Chad Finn. The morning and afternoon ARE unlistenable. IF this article does get discussed on the air, you'll be branded as some sort of communist sympathizer, left-wing nut, and that will be the end of it.

    Personally, I can't take listening to those idiots shout over each other for more than 30 seconds.

    Posted by Jon W February 26, 09 11:43 AM
  1. Funny. Many of these comments look like they were written by 3rd grade English class dropouts. People who can't spell, punctuate nor use proper grammar ought to think twice before slamming the communication abilities of others. Some of you make Smerlas and Ordway seem like Mensa candidates.

    WEEI is just fine for what it is. Brainless radio. The audio equivalent of watching a movie like "Caddyshack". If you are expecting the quality of "Raging Bull" you might be disappointed. If you take it for what it is, they do a really good job at it.

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 11:43 AM
  1. Sad to say back in the old days like the 1970's there were actually very good sports talk shows in Boston - Calling All Sports on WBZ was serious sports discussion and Sports Huddle on WHDH more off the wall but nothing like the idiotic Shepard, Smerlas, & Ordway mess.

    Posted by Phil February 26, 09 11:45 AM
  1. I like Dale and Holley right where they are. They fill my work day up just fine and that's really all I listen to on 'EEI. I do like Planet Mikey, but I only get to hear him when I'm in the car after 7.

    Looking forward to the baseball show with Mike this upcoming year. Hopefully they do the right thing at 'EEI and put McAdams and Buckley back together with Mike. Didn't like the format last year: McAdams one week Buck the next.

    Come on 'EEI McAdams and Buck can't cost that much!?!?!?!

    Also, hopefully now that the Yankees are semi- relavant again (at least until July) they also bring back ":Yankee Talk" on 'EEI with Craig and Larry. Love to listen to the Yankees fans wish, hope, pray and dream that they can be as good as the Red Sox!

    Posted by Jack B February 26, 09 11:46 AM
  1. I couldn't agree with you more, Chad. Like you said, there is plenty of listenable, entertaining content on WEEI, but unfortuneatley, the bad outweighs the good. Dale and Holley is the only show I can really listen to anymore. I can't stand Dennis and Callahan for their extreme right wing politics. Sports radio should be about exactly that...sports! And the "Big O" has some moments of brilliance, especially when he has McAdam or Curran on, but then he ruins it with those rejects DeOssie and Smerlas. And worst of all, he lets them do it and he generally agrees with them! Look, I like WEEI, but when it starts to be too much of a geriatric frat house, that's just not entertaining to me anymore. I think they need to make some adjustments to their format. Keep things like the "Whiner Line" and "Beat the Frauds" but STOP the right wing banter and the gay bashing (case in point, Fred and Steve mocking "Brokeback Mountain"). Plus, it just makes them look bad...grow up guys!

    Posted by J February 26, 09 11:48 AM
  1. 'Any competing station that was allowed to challenge these Howard Stern Jocks with anything credible would steal most of the silent sports fans.'
    Don't paint Howard like that he can actually conduct a professional interview even though it may be with a stripper.

    Posted by Phil February 26, 09 11:49 AM
  1. The "big show" is one of the most obnixious programs on the radio. The fact that they yak on like a bunch of frat boys tryinig to out shout each other is annoying enough but when they go on about how great the show is I can't listen anymore. It is literally one bigger meathead than the next on that show. I am a New England fan all the way around but if you want to listen to quality sports talk, tune into WFAN in New York.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 11:51 AM
  1. Chad is absolutely correct. I have not listened to EEI in years.

    Posted by calvin schiraldi February 26, 09 11:52 AM
  1. Hard not to agree with just about everything Chad said. Not that it will make any difference at WEEI. When you're making tons of money putting out an inferior product, there's little incentive to improve.

    Posted by TC February 26, 09 11:56 AM
  1. Dennis and Callahan are crapt at best never even listen at all anymore !

    Posted by jr February 26, 09 11:56 AM
  1. Oh my God people, get a grip. WEEI is ENTERAINMENT. If you want to be informed, enlightened, etc., etc., go read a good book.

    And to Chad Finn: You are just as much an arrogant bloviator as the guys on WEEI. The only difference is You WRITE it, they TALK it.

    Posted by Susan February 26, 09 11:57 AM
  1. I agree with most of what Chad writes. There is no other alternative available, so you either listen or don't. They really aren't like their radio personas (well most of them, never met D&C, but have talked with Pete, Meter, Dale, Holley and O at various times throughout the past couple of years) they pander to the LCD, and play the contrarian, good cop/bad cop routine to a T.
    I choose to ignore the screeching and check in once in a while to hear the scheduled interviews (Bellichick, Ainge, Francona) and that's about it.
    We reap what we sow.

    Posted by Bulavinaku February 26, 09 11:58 AM
  1. You are 100% correct. The whiner line is the only orginal entertainment on the station. I don't get to listen much as I only listen in my car and my commute is only 20 minutes so alI ever hear are commercials.

    Posted by Tim February 26, 09 11:58 AM
  1. As Boston becomes more and more cosmopolitan you’re seeing a larger percentage of those at the top end of the sports talk radio demographic migrate to Sirius XM. Why listen to D & C or Dale & Holley when you can tune into Dan Patrick or Colin Cowherd? Chris Russo, who plays opposite the Blow-Hard Show, can be a bit much, but he has no sidekicks and keeps things moving along. If you think WEEI is currently lowest common denominator radio, just wait a few years.

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 12:04 PM
  1. get sirius radio = problem solved.

    Posted by JG February 26, 09 12:06 PM
  1. I love WEEI. Really cool guys who do really cool "guy talk radio." I especially love Mikey Adams...what a nut!!! Any guy that locks himself in the station to earn his job has all the respect in the world from me. What a stunt!!!

    Ordway? He's a radio legend. He knows how to stir up the conversation and really keep the show moving.

    Dale and Holley are really fun to listen to. Dale seems so genuinely nice, and Holley is a perfect "hip" sidekick to the some what "Ward Cleaver-Like" Dale.

    Dennis and Callahan may alienate some with their strong political views, but those aside, they are both smart experienced men who have earned their stripes in the world of sports reporting. You have to repect their knowledge on sports...they've been in the locker rooms.

    I think the only mistake EEI made was bailing out on Mustard and Johnson. I really, really miss Larry on the weekends. I felt like he spoke for me...the fan...the kid that still loves the local teams. I'm glad he fills in from time to time and it's awesome that he still contributes his great artwork to the cool WEEI website.

    Oh well...gotta go shoot myself in the head after spewing so much nonesense.....toodles!!!

    Posted by LJ Sandwich February 26, 09 12:08 PM
  1. Sweet! #58 says I have my own crowd. I guess I've arrived.

    Posted by Bruce Allen February 26, 09 12:08 PM
  1. Most of your column is right on.... Except for the fact that Dale & Holly are the best the station has to offer....are you serious? It is painful to listen to Dale kiss every inch of Terry Francona's everytime he interviews him or his name is mentioned. He has become the biggest Red Sox apologist I have ever heard.......and by the way, mentions the Bruins in passing because he has to based on this season's success. Felger is excellent. When Fred & Steve join the big show it is horrible. How do two people that can't speak get regular spots on a drive time talk radio show?

    I would rather listen to the Mike Tirico & Scott VanPelt show....or The Jim Rome Show...though I love the Boston sports teams a national perspective is a nice change of pace.

    Posted by Matt F February 26, 09 12:08 PM
  1. Chad you should ask Barney and Ted for a station on NPR to broadcast your highly intelligent opinions without the need to sell advertising. You will get a 0. something rating too but you need not worry because I will be paying for your toy with money stolen from my paycheck. EEI works as a business. EEI is owned and operated by Democrats. Check Entercom and David Field's politics. Soros and Joe Kennedy have plenty of Venezuelan oil money to invest. Compete...dont complain.

    Posted by attila the hun February 26, 09 12:09 PM
  1. 890 ESPT 4-7 The Lew and Mike show. Its great, give it a try

    Posted by .c February 26, 09 12:16 PM
  1. if they suck so much why are they the highest rated? and why can they beat out any station in the country? Sure D&C are annoying and Big Show yells, but come on Felger? that man barely knows what he is taking about....he is a DB who says things to get people to react...........

    Posted by mike garofalo February 26, 09 12:16 PM
  1. Absolutely Right!
    Overall the conversation on EEI is shrill and almost unlistenable.
    Dennis and Callahan: Two idiots who need to focus on why people actually listen to Sports Radio. . .The Sports. Stop talking about current events and politics. Your opinions are crude and uninformed. Only bright spot is that they have great guests like Boomer Esiason, Adam Schechter, et al.
    The Big Show: This is basically a tribute show to absolute morons. What makes it even worse, are the call in regulars that they have to the show. The local yahoos who think that the rest of us actually care about their opinions . Much of it is self-indulgent garbage. This isn't sports, its a bunch of fat slobs talking on their porch.
    The Mikey Show: Does he even talk about sports? Half the time, it seems like he has nothing to say. Blah, Blah, Blah. Why is that guy Lenny on the show? Is this a job retraining program for unemployed Boston Comediens? Mikey has nothing to offer except more of the same self-indulgent garbage. Like when he did his version of American Idol with different WEEI personalities including himself singing songs. I usually tune in for about 15 seconds and then I go somewhere else when it becomes clear that he has no interest in talking about sports.

    Posted by Darren February 26, 09 12:17 PM
  1. Sounds like someone wants the Fairness Doctrine to be applied to Sports Radio!

    Posted by Dan February 26, 09 12:17 PM
  1. Time to get your house in order men of Kahn.

    Posted by Peter King February 26, 09 12:17 PM
  1. Right on. I used to spend a fair amount of time with WEEI, but the ratio of useful information to garbage is just way too low these days.

    Posted by Seth February 26, 09 12:17 PM
  1. Except, Joe... Sirius is hemmoraging money right now, they've spent millions more than they're bringing in... and losing thousands of subscribers on a daily basis because its a frivilous, unnecessary expense in these times... there are Chapter 11 rumors abound... that's the future?

    Posted by Jay February 26, 09 12:18 PM
  1. I like all the shows except for the BIG O show where they continously think that because they have a microphone they are gods gift to sports. All that show is, is that fat slobs bs opinions and him ripping everyone elses..Thank god someone wrote this article!

    Posted by STFB31 February 26, 09 12:19 PM
  1. I love sports. I can watch the Sportscenter loop indefinitely. I spend whole Saturdays watching highlight reels. I can recite an embarrassing litany of stats.

    I hate sports radio. WEEI is straight-up painful to listen to. I don't get how anyone can listen to it. I love a good internet flame war, but I don't want to hear the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers, I guess. It's best left to the suave suits on espn, or kept in text.

    Posted by simmadownnow February 26, 09 12:19 PM
  1. WEEI...wake up and get better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....Change the old guards...The afternoon show is a joke, It is 4 hours of Big O talking about his stupid, ill-informed ideas. I only listen to Dale and Holley, don't even bother with morning and afternoon segments. I am lucky and I can get ESPN radio on my car radio. I love how idiots think that WEEI is going to trash this criticism on the radio today when 90% aggrees with the column.

    Posted by bee-cee February 26, 09 12:20 PM
  1. it would not have anything to do with having a different political opinion, would it?

    Posted by cheepsox February 26, 09 12:21 PM
  1. I couldn't agree more. I haven't listened in a couple of years. Thank you Sirius/XM.

    Posted by Tim February 26, 09 12:21 PM
  1. The worst thing on EEI is listening to Joe, with the voice of a rat, doing the Sox games! If you watch TV while listening to him, you'd think they were different games. He needs to retire!! Ordway thinks he knows everything about everything! Holley is good, and I got to like Dennis & Callahan after a long while.

    Posted by jonas whale February 26, 09 12:21 PM
  1. I dont mind dale & holey but the big show is crap . I can never understand anyone because there always yelling over each other. God forbid you disagree with one of them , prepare to get blown up or insulted. I'd rather listen to chalk board scratching!!!

    callahan is a racist D***

    Toucher and RIch BABY!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Tony February 26, 09 12:22 PM
  1. The Big Show on EEI makes me want to punch something. Tune into ESPN Radio on the drive home, 890, for a much better listening experience.

    Posted by tim February 26, 09 12:22 PM
  1. WEEI stinks. Lately though I have been listening to JoeyMurr SportsBlast on 1120am. JoeyMurr is refreshing, and not contrived.7-8am every weekday

    Posted by Chico February 26, 09 12:22 PM
  1. This all needed to be said. EEI has turned into right wing talk radio in the morning and the afternoons. Sports talk is an aside to D&C. I stopped listening during the week, its not worh it.

    Posted by EEI=Rush February 26, 09 12:23 PM
  1. The PM, ex BC jocks (think "Biff" from Back To The Future), spout their right wing propaganda with the self interest only former pro athlete millionaires could have. Can you be less secure in your masculinity? ( big cigars, Harleys, wardrobes that would make pro wrestlers envious) The "I may be wrong but I can kick your ass" mentality. It's all compensating for some other shortcoming {If you know what I mean) .Unfortunately Mr. Finn, I think this overdue article will be shouted down as sour grapes. Until the ratings drop, this drivel is what we get. I do have to give kudos to Buck, D&H, Bradford, Mikey,and McAdam.

    Posted by Southie February 26, 09 12:23 PM
  1. RIGHT ON CHAD!!!!!!!!! I'm as huge a Boston sports fan as any and I will NOT listen to the Big Show or Dennis and Callahan. They irritate the hell outta me. Always talking over callers with adverse opinions to theirs only to do their stupid blow up thing. How their so listened to, I have no idea.

    Its sad like you say, cause I certainly wanna hear sports talk, and that junk EEI throws out there sure aint it. 890 and 1510 are decent alternatives so I pop those on when I'm in the right part of town. But other than Dale and Holley, and I like Mikey too, EEI = JUNK!!!!!!!

    Posted by Steve C February 26, 09 12:23 PM
  1. WOW! You hit the nail right on the head. I now have Sirius Sattelite radio just because I can't take the anger that was building each morning listening to the "extreme", Dennis & Callahan. Hate filled, racist and as you said, only their opinion is heard. On the other side, I do find the "Big O" to be pretty funny.

    Posted by Jack February 26, 09 12:23 PM
  1. It was great to see this article because I was thinking I might be the only one. I really used to enjoy the mornings and afternoon on WEEI. But I have found myself changing the station away from WEEI much lately. The yelling, the drama, and repeating topics have made it more like a reality show then an informative and inciteful conversation. John, Gerry, and Glenn - I hope you put your ego's away and stop talking for a whole 60 seconds and at the very least digest this article, its comments and let Boston fans talk for once.

    Posted by T.Gibson February 26, 09 12:24 PM
  1. Also, way to skew the poll Globe. It's either awful or intellectually redeeming?

    How about a couple of more options?

    How about : It's entertainment. Take it for what it is.

    Posted by Jay February 26, 09 12:25 PM
  1. I'm in Western Mass., every bit the sports fan as anyone in Boston. I use to look forward to vacation on the Cape to listen to WEEI on transister radio on the beach. Since it's come to local radio the novelity has worn off. With the exception to Dale & Holey, the screeming and holaring is too much. I've switched back to local stations for the chit-chat and WBZ am for sports on the 1/2 hour. Its a little much trying to be told the host' knows everything, their opinions are always the way it is.

    Posted by belchertown bill February 26, 09 12:26 PM
  1. I only listen to two segments of sports radio, the "NE Hockey Journal Show" on Saturdays on AM-890 and the "Hockey On Campus" show, also on 890. Otherwise, I generally listen to WBUR. I don't follow basketball much, but I presume there are Celtics fans who appreciate the weekly "Celtic Pride" show and don't really need 18-hour-a-day blathering.

    Posted by Chris February 26, 09 12:26 PM
  1. Look at me!! My name is chad and I am an attention whore!!

    I think it would be awesome if EEI didn't mention this article today at all to get the exact opposite reaction of what this hack is looking for.

    Posted by amisoxornot February 26, 09 12:27 PM
  1. I'm a liberal, and it's obvious how right-leaning EEI is, but I actually enjoy Ordway and the Big Show. When Fred Smerlas isn't on, they don't talk politics all that much. I can't take the racist, homophobic D&C, so you know what, I turn the channel, you can do the same thing. I like WEEI, I find it entertaining. I listened to Felger's show and the ESPN shows and I just didn't find them interesting enough. I always found my way back to EEI. A few people have tried to compete against EEI and so far they've lost - so Chad, perhaps you are in the minority when it comes to what you want in sports radio. Sorry, dude.

    Posted by Ace February 26, 09 12:27 PM
  1. EEI should stick to better understanding of sports and have better knowledge of the players and teams beyond Boston. Michael Holley is the one diamond in the rough. The guys that rely on narrow conservative politics are 1: getting around the fact they cannot talk about the current topics in sports and 2: are lame rush wannabees and will try anything just for stunts. Get some depth and raise the bar, go find some people with brains not insecure - oh I can't get a job elsewhere - narrow minded, read only the headlines and look at pictures talking heads.

    Posted by moxie February 26, 09 12:28 PM
  1. great write-up Chad. I tune into WEEI because I'm a sports fan, and they should have the access to the right people in the industry to deliver me information about the Boston sports scene that I can't get anywhere else. unfortunately this info I seek is buried by the nonsense of sports guys trying to talk politics, or worse, callers who think they are comedians. I understand there is a level of entertainment there for some, but for real sports fans who want to talk sports, WEEI is almost a waste of time. thanks for taking a stand against bad radio, I hope the backlash you get from other media members and the yahoos who love them is less than the appreciation you get from fans like me.

    Posted by TomBradyMVP February 26, 09 12:29 PM
  1. Only dale and Holly are worth listening to. The sad question is whether New England deserves a smarter, more respectful and respectable sports station if this one can do so well here. I suggest shutting them down by shutting them off, with the exception of the above named duo. (How do they put up with the rest, I wonder?) Thank god for podcasts.

    Posted by Ralph February 26, 09 12:29 PM
  1. In my opinion, if they would only talk one at a time, I would listen.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 12:29 PM
  1. Talk about outdated. You're using this article, which you know will grab sports enthusiasts' attention, to promote OT, a weekly sports publication. Get real. By the time it comes out, the events have already been discussed ad nauseum and may no longer be relevant. Sports radio is entertainment for people driving around in their cars who are sick of commericals on music stations or tired of hearing Bachman Turner Overdrive on the classic rock station. The morning and midday shows discuss current events in addition to sports. The afternoon show is part sports discussion and part comedy. It's a winning format. If you don't like it, turn the dial. You'll be in the minority if you do. At times they all beat topics to death, and I do turn the dial. I do the same thing whe I look at a headline about a story that's already been beaten to death. I turn the page. If ESPN couldn't produce a competitve show on a formidable signal, that's not EEI's fault. The fact is that a weekly sports magazine is pretty irrelevant in today's media. Every topic you discuss will likely have already been beaten to death. I give it 6 months, 1 year tops. Why doesn't the Globe buy a real signal and put all it's PC talent on the air and see how they fare.

    Posted by John February 26, 09 12:29 PM
  1. The only annoying part of WEEI are the callers. I enjoy the hosts, even D&C, who are entertaining and like Felgar have a schict that they play too. The Big Show is just really good and for the most part the co-hosts are great. I wish the globe would lift their ban and allow Scoop, Ryan and Mazz to go back on, get off your high horse and its funny how their intwervwiws are all over the globe's website but their people can't go on the dial
    In reference ot Chad Finn, this is the first tiem I have read your stuff and congrats you are going to get a lot of coverage, smart move, nobody knew who you were beofre and good angle to increase hits on your page/articles. Really the Concord Monitor, great what's next we get Tom King from the Nashua Teleegraph.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 12:29 PM
  1. I agree completely. I am a Mass. native, but now I live in CT, where the WFAN signal comes in loud and clear. It really puts WEEI to shame. Mike Francessa can be a blow-hard sometimes, but he knows his stuff and he's a pro on the radio. The rest of the regular hosts do a good job. Listening to WEEI when I'm in Boston makes my ears bleed. Seriously, how many people can they pack into one radio booth?

    Posted by Will February 26, 09 12:30 PM
  1. I really dont have a problem with the Big Show, as at least it is humorous sometimes, but the AM commute is awful. Gerry Callahan is a neanderthal who is so far right that he makes Rush look like a democrat. He is racist, sexist, and is just a nasty, dumb, uneducated jerk who does not belong on the radio. Dennis may be arrogant, but at least he does seem to have some ability to think clearly. Frankly, if Callahan were gone, and replaced with someone like Felger or Neumy, the show wouls be MUCH better.

    Posted by Howard February 26, 09 12:30 PM
  1. Translation: D&C are annoying right wing wack jobs and the Big Show is a loud scream over each other festival of mediocrity.

    Posted by Chris February 26, 09 12:30 PM
  1. Couldn't agree more. I only listen to Dale & Holley. Gave up on all the others -- talk over each other and the callers. Not just arrogant, rude and without manners. Too many commercials.

    Posted by goodnews February 26, 09 12:31 PM
  1. am i the only one that listens to ESPN on 1400. Actual Sports talk.

    Posted by Tony February 26, 09 12:32 PM
  1. This was really good. THANK YOU!

    WEEI made a Sirius/XM subscriber out of me. I love sports. I love Boston sports. WEEI has not been listenable for years. At least since Fred Smerlas, who talks like he's got a mouthful of dirty socks, came on the scene. I tune in on weekends sometimes, but never in the morning or afternoon during the week. They turn the entire conversation into racist bathroom humor. No more for me, thanks.

    Posted by mrchuckhall February 26, 09 12:32 PM
  1. Wow....Chad Finn, you either have some ax to grind or are so out of touch you actually believe this pablum your spewing. I, and I suspect many others, listen to WEEI not because we're looking for high-minded debate of sports, but because we enjoy the entertainment of the arguments and callers, mixed in with some occasional keen insight. What exactly is wrong with that? What YOU want is not what most people want, as the ratings attest. The only thing I'll criticize WEEI for is an increasing tendency to get overly-political, and 95% of the time, VERY conservative. I stopped listening to the morning show not because they talk politics, but because they spew the same old EXTREME right wing made up bs that makes the whole party look bad (I'm a Republican). With that said, WEEI, especially the Big Show, is very entertaining, and does have the best and brightest in the industry - Bert, Buckley, McAdam, and guests like Gammons.

    Finn, you really made a fool of yourself here. Unless of course, you were trying to stir up controversy to try to ride the coattails of WEEI's popularity, since you clearly lack the perspective to understand this business. Pretty pathetic. And BTW, having lived in two other big sports cites (NYC and Chicago), I can tell you that Ordway is easily the most talented talk show host out there. His ability to take what otherwise would be a ho-hum conversation and turn it into a lively, and still often entertaining and funny, debate is a skill that few have. Please Finn, next time take the time to actually learn about the subject matter before you write about it.

    Posted by Jeff from Boston February 26, 09 12:32 PM
  1. Fantastic! The only complaint I have is that Chad Finn was too much of a gentleman to label most of the incompetence with actual names. I have no such trouble.

    Pete Sheppard: The single-biggest reason this country is deep in a recession. The fact that clowns like this can garner six-figure paychecks is sole evidence that we are indeed a back-water nation.

    Steve Buckley: A Triple A talent at best in a Major League market who is rarely interesting, always arrogant, and loves his own voice.

    Steve DeOssie/Fred Smerlas: If only these two would take Performance Enhancing Drugs. You played in the NFL. We get it. It doesn't mean you have anything to say. Hey Steve, "you're wrong" is not actual commentary.

    Butch Stearns: Absolutely unlikable.

    Posted by Rudy Mass February 26, 09 12:33 PM
  1. It's pathetic - exhibit A is how they treated the journalist Ken Krayeske yesterday. It was deplorable. Typical passive-agressive behavior with underhanded comments and all. As if any of the guys that are usually on eei at the end of a work day have any credentials at all. Shephard is a blubbering fool and Ordway's lapdog; Ordway makes way too much (good thing his physique keeps him off the TV screens for the most part) and Smerlas and DeOssie? Are you kidding me?

    Posted by FJ February 26, 09 12:33 PM
  1. I listed to EEI when they talk sports. When Gerry Callahan does his angry White man, homophobe thing, I turn the channel.

    That Shepherd fellow in the afternoon is a complete embarrassment. What an idiot.

    Posted by Obama Bin Bush February 26, 09 12:33 PM
  1. Couldn't agree more. 10-2 is solid. The rest is noise or incessant plugs for overpriced steaks that I no longer will listen to. Felger for GC might be enough to fix the morning show. Some please give Jackie MacMullan a voice at 2-6 that can be heard.

    Posted by Southcoaster-1 February 26, 09 12:33 PM
  1. WEEI is un-listenable 80% of the time, especially on my ride home at 5PM. I stopped listening several months ago.

    Posted by josh February 26, 09 12:33 PM
  1. You know what...when I was using my radio today, I discovered a button that CHANGES THE CHANNEL!!!!!! Wow! I discovered that when I didn't like something I could...CHANGE THE STATION I was listening to. Thank goodness for that feature...if you search long and hard, you may find the same button on YOUR radio!!

    Posted by gt51571 February 26, 09 12:34 PM
  1. I no longer listen to WEEI. It's the only way I know to stop the hate.

    We're Boston with a rich and proud heritage. There are some low points and 'EEI radio today is one of them.

    Posted by Felix Mantilla February 26, 09 12:34 PM
  1. Finally! WEEI is basically unlistenable. I like Dale and Holley's show, but as I get read for work in the morning, Dennis and Callahan can ruin a morning in seconds. These two ignorant, arrogant troglodytes need to be reeled in. The boring republic rants, the callers that have LESS intelligence than a bag of door knobs, the misogyny, the homophobia...any credibility that EEI wants as a station it will NEVER have because of these two has beens. Oh, and don't try contacting that other little piglet Jason Wolfe, he could give a crap what listeners think. My only hope is that advertisers start bailing out in droves.

    Posted by Amber February 26, 09 12:34 PM
  1. Typical Globe - someone doesn't agree with you politics - liberal and Obama/Deval loving and you have to trash them. You are ridiculous!!!!!

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 12:34 PM
  1. Jay, I don't know what you consider 'entertainment', but EEI definitely does not even come close to 'entertainment' for me. Give me nails on a chalk board any day over EEI.

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 12:34 PM
  1. I gave up on Dennis and Callahan long ago, they are unlistenable, Ordway not too far after. If you don't have satellite radio, try 890 ESPN for drive time 4-7. Not a lot of "star power" but Lew and Mike are fun and much easier to listen to.

    Posted by Joe Boston February 26, 09 12:35 PM
  1. I enjoy Dale & Holley. I don't get a headache when I turn them on. I used to listen to the Big Show but it hurt my ears after a while. I do enjoy Dennis & Callahan....when they're not hosting, like this morning when I was listening to Felger. WEEI has morphed into an incidental cartel like the NCAA.

    Posted by Dave February 26, 09 12:36 PM
  1. Yes, I know at times they can be annoying, but I wouldn't listen to any other sports talk radio station but WEEI.

    Posted by Vivian February 26, 09 12:36 PM
  1. Finally! WEEI is basically unlistenable. I like Dale and Holley's show, but as I get read for work in the morning, Dennis and Callahan can ruin a morning in seconds. These two ignorant, arrogant troglodytes need to be reeled in. The boring republic rants, the callers that have LESS intelligence than a bag of door knobs, the misogyny, the homophobia...any credibility that EEI wants as a station it will NEVER have because of these two has beens. Oh, and don't try contacting that other little piglet Jason Wolfe, he could give a crap what listeners think. My only hope is that advertisers start bailing out in droves.

    Posted by Amber February 26, 09 12:36 PM
  1. Chad has hit it right in the eye. The morning show is unlistenable. The 10 - 2 slot is the only thing worth tunning into. It's about time someone called the Big Show for what it is - worthless garbage.

    Posted by Lagoose February 26, 09 12:36 PM
  1. Took the words right out of my mouth!! Dale & Holley, along with Planet Mikey, are the only shows that are worth listening too. The Big Show and D&C are horrible. Mike&Mike in the morning is a good alternative in the mornings on ESPN radio, but Felger in the afternoon is just as bad as the big show.

    Posted by DFort February 26, 09 12:37 PM
  1. Bingo! And I thought it was just that I'm moving out of their prefered demographic. The number of things these guys have on that make me reach for the button grows daily. I mean Fred Smerlas? We told "pee pee" jokes like that in 2nd grade. And we don't really need his "Me hunt-you gather" political opinions either. And Pete-a little hint. There are actually adjectives in the English language besides "unbelieveable". These guys have jumped the shark.

    Posted by Homerclese February 26, 09 12:37 PM
  1. I appreciate having WEEI, even if the commercial spots are too long and some of the prerecorded spots that are supposed to be funny are moronic. But thank goodness someone on radio in Boston has the courage to voice an opposing political view once in a while. And I think the morning show balances current events talk and sports talk well. You may have heard this option before: If you don't like it, don't listen. When the guys in the afternoon start yelling over each other I change the station for a while. Is that so difficult? I enjoy the interesting parade of experience and options.

    Posted by mrstuom February 26, 09 12:37 PM
  1. Stop listening or pay for satellite radio. No one is forcing you to listen.

    No one listens to ESPN Radio Boston because its irrelevant, much like the Globe. Real sports fans buy the Boston Herald.

    This is just a typical showing of the "We are so much smarter and better than you" Boston Globe.

    Posted by Brian February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. Great article - I switched to Sirius radio for sports talk. It's worth the monthly fee to not have to listen to WEEI.

    Posted by KC February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. ...and if you even THINK of disagreeing with anyone on the Big Show, they blow you up! How stupid. I hate the AM politics. If I want to hear politics, I would not turn on a sports radio show!

    Posted by sickofitall February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. Generally, the station does an excellent job in keeping me up to date with the Boston sports scene. However, Gerry Callahan is much, much too pompous and arrogant for my taste. I wish he would check his political opinions at the door and tone down his superior attitude. I find that he actually becomes a distraction and iI sometimes change the station for a few minutes until his ranting is done. Nonetheless, I still listen to EEI during my morning and afternoon commutes. It certainly makes the ride more tolerable.

    With the exception of the Dale & Holley Show (Holley is the star of the station in my opinion) I generally find the on-air personalities to be either condescending or just plain rude to the callers. Pete Sheppard and Fred Smerlas comes across as very defensive if anyone expresses a negative opinion about the Patriots

    Posted by John Trahan February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. Agreed, for the most part. I will give WEEI that some of the antics are entertaining, but things seem to have been going too far as of late. I really, really, really would like to hear more sports stories discussed and less Nickname-the-Stimulus-Package going on in the morning... One of the more appealing things about sports it is a common ground between people who have otherwise different views. Ergo, I usually turn D&C off after the first Flash. Dale and Holley are great. Mikey Show is entertaining, but only for about 20 minutes. Unfortunately, there is little alternative for those who don't have satellite radio... what are you gonna do? Turn to the Matty Show? Or perhaps develop an affection for Bedtime Magic with David Allen Boucher? Would love to see a strong alternative to EEI develop.

    Posted by KC February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. eei mornings are possibly the worst radio in the history of radio.....I switched over to Finneran's Forum which is much much better.

    Posted by MIKE February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. Total agreement. Thanks for writing this. I stopped listening in the morning a long time ago. I listen for a minute or two to the Big Show to see if there's any sports news but can't stand more than that. "Hold on, hold on"--exactly! The self-importance of Ordway and the kowtowing of the minions is embarrassing. Johnny Most tried to tell Ordway a long time ago that he wasn't really the show but Ordway chose to ignore that. The shouting over each other is ridiculous--I really don't see how they don't recognize that. Dale and Holley is a better program but Holley is also very self-important and Dale Arnold has never learned how to stand up to anyone on air at the station. 'EEI culture is a good example of ethnocentric self-indulgence and the way in which weaker members of a tribe will completely sell out any principles and their personality for the sake of survival.

    Posted by Jim February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. Great read, you nailed it right on the head.
    It's so aggravating to tune in trying to find information on a trade or signing and get met with the incessant yelling over each other.
    The morning show's homophobia is appalling, although not surprising given their ultra right wing slant.

    Posted by Bobby February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. Finally!!! Thanks for writing this.

    You actually missed a whole bunch of points of frustration but generally got it right. Arrogance, ignorance. I often fantasize of winning mega millions and breathing real life into a sports radio station that would knock these guys out.

    Mike & Mike in the a.m. and Dale & Holley in the mid-day before putting on music or WBUR is the way to go.

    Posted by BTH February 26, 09 12:38 PM
  1. Hey Nerds. Play sports or maybe watch a game. Don't read or write about it.

    Posted by dave February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. I tune in for the Whiner line when I happen to be in the car at 5:45. And on the following morning, I almost always come close to hurting myself as I lunge for the dial when I hear the voice of either D or C. It's only a matter of time before those 2 become a national embarrassment. And why are the ex-jocks on Ordway's show always white (the exception being Maxwell)? It's not like the white ex-jocks are the most articulate people in the world. Speaking of inarticulate, how does Pete Sheppard even get a job on a talk show in radio? He can't speak. He can't deal with callers. He needs counseling for his anger management issues. His only upside is how much he hates D&C, raising the possibility that the 3 of them could mix it up with at least one suffering a seriousness enough injury to keep him off the air for an extended period of time.

    Posted by Jeff_S February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. EEI is not what it use to be. D and C are Ok as well as Dale and Holley. The rest of the weekday shows have gone down hill. Mike Adams has become a cartoon character and the Big Show, especially when Smerlas ,DeOssie and Shepard are pontificating has become unlistenable.

    Posted by tom from everett February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. When I tune into WEEI, I want to hear sports talk. If I wanted to listen to right-wingers complain about Obama, I have many other options. I don't need Fred Smerlas' completely ignorant and uninformed views on our government in my life. I'd like to hear him discuss football since he knows it pretty well, but those instances have become few and far between. I stick to Dale and Holley since they actually talk sports.

    Posted by OrdwayBleh February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. Hi Chad--
    I almost completely agree with you. WEEI is laughing all the way to the bank on the backs on no-talent "personalities." My small disagreement is with Dale Arnold--his unctuous, arrogant, smugness is disgusting. Teaming up Holley with Michael Smith would be a blast--I've heard them on together on occasion and they were brilliant. One other person that's written in general about the low quality of EEI is Bill Simmons, but he's toned down as a national writer. In any case, I applaud your courage in writing this and hope you ignore the insults that will be thrown your way. I've been a loyal reader since before the Globe--keep up the good work!

    Posted by Hondo35 February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. I want to put myself inside you.

    Posted by Chris Dickerman February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. Dennis and Callahan are like guys who stepped in dog crap, found a twenty dollar bill, and are convinced that they're financial wizards. Callahan just tells his lies, day after day, insulting women, gays, and African-Americans with impunity while Dennis apparently has given up on even remotely trying to keep his lunatic co-host on topic. The idea that either is so invaluable for ratings that they had to be kept on is laughable. The ratings are there because people love sports, not because they want to hear those two idiots, unless we're looking at D and C as the radio equivalent of methadone for listeners who want right-wing politics but aren't hooked on morning talk radio morons on the other stations.

    Posted by Dot February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. I love the station - hope they don't change a thing. THIS GUY FINN IS JEALOUS!!!!!!!

    Posted by Gary February 26, 09 12:39 PM
  1. WEEI is simply the most entertaining radio station in Boston. The only program I don't like is Dale and Holley. Dale's act has long since grown thin. Used to like him, but he just comes across as whiney now. He's past his prime. Dennis and Callahan are entertaining, except when Callahan goes on a rant that makes the KKK look like ACORN. He's a bit unbalanced. Still a good show though. The Big Show is, bar none, the best there is on radio. What Ordway does is turning what would be a 5 minute go nowhere discussion point anywhere else into a 2 hour hearty debate is nothing short of masterful.

    Posted by Finn is Clueless February 26, 09 12:40 PM
  1. I was a faithful listener to WEEI for many many years. But I finally had my fill of it about a year ago, and jumped ship to WZLX Classic Rock. It just became to non sports oriented in the morning, as Gerry Callahan would constantly use it to vent his Republican political views, and then they would keep bringing in non-sports guests like the horrible Mr Skin.

    The late afternoon show was turning into more and more of a comedy routine than anything else. Pete Sheppard is a joke in of himself to begin with. But I was able to put up with his stuttering and antics providing the show stayed on course with good sports talk. But they got more and more away from that and too much into the promoting of their stupid bits including the horrible "Whiner Line".

    Then the joker after Glen's show, Mike Adams and his Planet Mikey Show, is even worse. Why anyone listens to him is beyond me.

    So I had enough and left a year ago and have not gone back since. I wish ESPN radio had a stronger signal in the area.

    it is too bad for the Dale and Holly Show, which was the only show on WEEI that I found to stick with real sports talk theme for what it is intended to be.

    Posted by Barry S February 26, 09 12:40 PM
  1. He hit it right on with celebrity callers. If you call in so much that everyone knows who you are: you call in too much.

    Ordway's show always ends up with too much screaming and not enough listening. I listen at work to weei all day. Every day I end up taking off the headphones at least once for Ordway;s show. Something I never have to do for D&H

    Posted by Doug February 26, 09 12:40 PM
  1. The only time WEEI is worth listening to is when guests like Bill Belichick, Theo Epstein or any qualified and knowledgeable front office individual are on speaking factually about the state of our teams. All others know less then the average sports fan (except DeOssie and Smerlas they actually are very knowledgeable). This article is right on the money, WEEI is becoming difficult to listen to.

    Posted by weei February 26, 09 12:40 PM
  1. I usually read these stories and keep my opinions to myself and immediate friends and family. This story has hit a chord with me. The claims that WEEI have the best ratings and the best sports talk in the country is fine. But I equate some of the claims to a town that has only one saloon and if you want a drink you have no choice but to go to that saloon. The only station I can get on my radio is WEEI and I love sports talk so I listen to that station. The morning Rush Lumberg Show I can do without but the quests and interviews are great. Dale and Holley are super. The Big Show... Give me the Whiner Line. I will continue to listen because it is the only show in my listening area and I love sports but I don't totally disagree with the comments made in this article

    Posted by Dalton Barnett February 26, 09 12:41 PM
  1. Hey I love being put on hold for a half hour so Frank from Glouster can have his daily drunken rank. Hey how About miter doing his Jay Leno routine day in and day out instead of sports flashes? At least I have WBZ to get sports information, but hey if I want political satire I can listen to dennis and callahan. OK, so it's water cooler topics, but can you also do some sports?.........on your sports show?

    For those that ask why it's so highly rated, what alternative do most of us have for sports shows?

    Actaully enjoy the Exhalted-O show more, as they are actually fans of the local teams, instead of fans of........themselves.......like the morning show.
    Pete Sheppard is good enough to host his own show, don't know why he doesn't take advantage of that.

    Act

    Posted by 00chief00 February 26, 09 12:41 PM
  1. Enlightening - - as a fairly educated person - I truly find WEEI going downhill....the afternoon - i stopped listening. They have nothing to say - it is all about yelling over each other with comments that seem as if none of them ever graduated from HS, never mind hold communication degrees! The morning, I actually like John Dennis - but Gerry's act has grown so old that I can't listen - as soon as he makes an unwarranted - insane comment - about the democrats, I just turn it off. There is having your opinion, then jamming it down everyone's throats. I don't listen for politics - Gerry should move to another AM station as just another red-state junkie - who knows - maybe hhe will give Rush a run for his money!

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 12:41 PM
  1. Enlightening - - as a fairly educated person - I truly find WEEI going downhill....the afternoon - i stopped listening. They have nothing to say - it is all about yelling over each other with comments that seem as if none of them ever graduated from HS, never mind hold communication degrees! The morning, I actually like John Dennis - but Gerry's act has grown so old that I can't listen - as soon as he makes an unwarranted - insane comment - about the democrats, I just turn it off. There is having your opinion, then jamming it down everyone's throats. I don't listen for politics - Gerry should move to another AM station as just another red-state junkie - who knows - maybe hhe will give Rush a run for his money!

    Posted by Chris Cyr February 26, 09 12:42 PM
  1. I have to 100% AGREE with Chad here. I used to listen, whether it was when I was a kid with my daddy on the way to school or elsehwere to when I finally got my license and put it on myself. As a Boston female of course I ABSOLUTELY LOVE sports. But I stopped listening for 2 reasons: Dennis and Callahan. They are WAY to conservative, arrogant and isnulting. I need to point out that when Eddie Guerrero (a great wrestler from a long line of wrestlers, his family is legendary in Latin America) sadly passed away a few years ago these A-holes decided to insult him by saying "Isn't that how all wrestlers go...splat" or something like this and in turn also insulting another legedary wrestler from another legendary family in Canada the Hart familuy (Owen Hart was who they also insulted). Had either of these men been one of our sports heroes Dennis nor Callahan would ever dream of isnulting them, but they were "only wrestlers". And apparently very few WEEI announcers realize there is a 4th sport, hockey. When the Patriots had lost a game after making an incredible comeback so many people were calling and upset, not realizing that at the Garden that night the Bruins handedly beat our biggest rivals the Montreal Candiens. Of course this wasn't talked about but it was not Patriot news. I am absolutely fed up with these 2 ignorant creeps. I must however, say that I was lucky enough to meet Mike Adams one night after a Red Sox game and I love him. He was so kind and friendly and my boyfriend & I even got a picture with him. And he goes against the grain of WEEI, he'll talk about all sports even hockey.

    Posted by RayRay01 February 26, 09 12:42 PM
  1. weei is a joke...moronic. We need new blood in the scene tv, radio and print. Same guys at the globe for 20 years, ordway, etc..blah...please "retire" so you can go out and play golf everyday with bob lobel. Most importantly, can we please expel fred smerlas (mustache, gold chain) and steve deossie (red faced) so they will never be heard from again? how they got their tv gigs is unreal to me, unless producers were looking for the most uneducated and illiterate people on the planet...great job

    Posted by John Miller February 26, 09 12:42 PM
  1. I'm shocked at how many people are ripping Chad here. It think it was extremely ballsy to criticize EEI. Most of what he said is spot on. EEI is terrible! I listen because I love sports and I love Boston teams and I think a lot if people listen for the same reasons, but come on, the Big Show and the Dennis and Callahan Show is just dreadful. They should move Dale and Holly to the big show time slot because they are the only hosts worth listening to. The fact that Glen Ordway is a millionaire is embarrasing. He just yells and interrupts people and repeats things that other people say. And yet, he's one of the highest paid radio hosts in the country. Unbelievable! Dennis and Callahan might be even worse though. Callahan might be the most opinionated person I've ever heard. He refuses to listen to anybody else's point of view and just yammers over them the whole time. What a blow hard. I've been waiting years for somebody to call out EEI for what it is. Good work Chad!

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 12:42 PM
  1. Sounds exactly like Chad Finn, the writer of this blog (it doesn't qualify as an actual news article) was turned down a position at WEEI that he recently interviewed for. And now, like a spoiled brat trust fund babay - he blogs about rejection. Welcome to the "lub Chad. Grow up there, little buddy.

    Posted by 123456 February 26, 09 12:43 PM
  1. Thank you for writing this article! WEEI has been increasingly difficult to listen to. The yelling, phony laughter, yelling, repetitive boring topics, and did I mention that yelling, force my hand to change the station. The Big Show, Dennis & Callahan, and even Dale & Holly, are rude to callers. They don't care for their opinions, be-little them, and yell. WEEI touts itself as Boston's best, maybe that was true years ago, it's not the case anymore. The majority of Red Sox games are broadcasted on a different station -- thankfully!!

    Posted by Maria - Boston February 26, 09 12:43 PM
  1. Mike Mutnansky is the best and most underrated talent that WEEI has, and Chad Finn is the same for the Globe!

    Posted by aguywhoisdefinatelynotpjfromwgam February 26, 09 12:43 PM
  1. I am so pleased that someone finally told the emperior he has no clothes. My goodness, listening to these self-important, obnoxious host and co-host is so painful I more often than not change the channel. Just a little insight and intellegences would be such a breath of fresh air. I remember when talk radio was about intellegent conversation between two people often with differing opinions. Now it is about 2-5 host/co-host/visitors, trying to out screem one another.
    But unfortunately, as you said, until another station with a strong enough signal comes alone, we are stuck with the fools behind the wheel.

    But un

    Posted by Jake February 26, 09 12:44 PM
  1. WEEI is, for the most part, much more about the hosts than the subject they cover. That's why 890 ESPN is a better alternative for people who want to hear good sports coverage.

    Dale and Holley are an exception. I'd be happy if they let everyone else go and brought in younger hosts who had something to prove.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 12:44 PM
  1. With access to the internet, listeners are just as informed about sports news as the EEI hosts. During my commute I would like to hear insightful reaction to the sports news I already know....instead, we get junk.

    Posted by bwolf1 February 26, 09 12:44 PM
  1. I agree with one small exception - keep ordway on the radio - he is worse on tv - his face is, well, let's say its better kept on the radio where we can't see it.

    Posted by terryt February 26, 09 12:44 PM
  1. Can't believe someone had the guts to say the Emperor has no clothes. But Ordway and the Big Show is the WWF of sports radio. A bunch of clowns shouting over each other and any caller who dares disagree with them. I'm forced to listen to the FAN sometimes just to get some half-way intelligent sports talk.
    Mike Adams might be even worse, but I got so sick of his one-trick pony Manny-bashing, that I don't even try to listen.
    Obviously, they realize their fan base is mainly white, so players like Manny, Pedro. Lugo are pleasing targets for them.

    Posted by RD February 26, 09 12:45 PM
  1. Wow...Felger having an intelligent show?? Are you kidding me...when he's been on EEI he talks about who he'd "do". Not too intelligent. I stopped listening in the morning since all D&C seem to talk about is politics anymore. And in the afternoons, the only thing I listen too is the Whiner line for a good laugh. The rest of the time the station is crap. Occasionally someone will have something intelligent to say, but I'm sick of hearing people criticize players who are obviously hurt for not playing simply because they make so much. Money does not heal injuries time does. Seems the goons and callers at WEEI don't seem to realize that.

    Posted by Stacy February 26, 09 12:45 PM
  1. I agree with this article completely! When was that either Dennis or Callahan had an orirginal thought? I belive it was 2004! Anyone who listens to their show instead of Mike and Mike on ESPN Radio is clueless. I don't care what their opinions are on TV shows and politics...they are so long overdue to be canned!

    Posted by Reardon February 26, 09 12:46 PM
  1. Do you think the bombastic egos at WEEI will understand the overall response to this article is a pretty fair barometer of how hated that station is, in a sports-crazy city like Boston? Aside from Dale & Holley and the Saturday guys, anyone with half a brain who wants to keep their eardrums from exploding has stopped listening to the Big Show and Dennis & Callaghan. I get my sports talk radio fix from Sirius now, everyone should check it out.

    Posted by TimeToChangeTheTalent February 26, 09 12:46 PM
  1. Middle of the road on this one. Some points right on others are a bit harsh. There should be a presidential investigation as to how a no-talent obnoxious s.o.b. like Pete Shephard keeps a job. He is horrendous. Too much politics on D&C and as a conservative Callahan even annoys me. Felger should get more airtime. Adams can be entertaining but has become a one-trick pony with the Manny bashing. Get over it Mikey - last time I checked the Sox had won nothing with all of your hustle guys since 1918. Manny came here and we won 2 in 4 years...deal with it. Whiner line is hilarious!

    Posted by JW18 February 26, 09 12:47 PM
  1. Prediction, Glen Ordway's show will consist of an hour of ranting about this artical only to follow it up with callers adding nothing to the conversation while the Big O gafaws in the background. Shepard will ask "who is this turd" or provide us with "who do you think you are this Chad Finn, your nothing but a whiney little loser turd". I don't have to listen to know the format I've heard it before and have the basic gist of what will be said over the next day or so. They are fat sarcastic arm chair quaterbacks that went to CT School of Broadcasting.
    On the flip side, the Jimmy Fund Telethone is a great thing done by this station and demonstrates it's popularity amonst it's listeners

    Posted by Sk88ts February 26, 09 12:47 PM
  1. BRAVO!!

    I never EVER listen to Dennis & Callahan in the morning...listening to Dino ask long winded questions and Jerry "aka Rush Limbaugh Lite" is not the way I want to start my day...ditto to the afternoon team when DeAwful & Caveman Fred are on...

    Posted by jrtooltime February 26, 09 12:48 PM
  1. ESPN &OT - 50,000 watts. Partnership with ESPN & the globe. Globe wants ad revenue? there it is -- you'd rip 40-60% of the EEI listeners that are looking for Sports talk. EEI is entertainment and there will alwys be listeners for that, which is no problem. Casual sports fans who think D&C & big O are fun, they won't leave them. but, those guys will have to hang their hats on entertainment and their seeming arrogance - which is an act that has grown with positive reinforcement, lacking true wattage competition.

    Amp up the SPorts Talk, provide true competition, and let them expand the whiner line to three hours officially, because it's de facto right now.

    Posted by TH February 26, 09 12:48 PM
  1. Welcome to WGLB...Boston Globe Sports radio...with hosts Tony Mazz, and Shank Shaughnessy. Can someone make this into a reality?

    Posted by I HateOrdway February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. Listen to 660 in the AM, Boomer and Karton is top notch entertainment!

    Posted by dutty February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. Got Sirius. Best move ever. Got plenty of sports and talk, and STERN. haven't turned on my regular radio more than 5-6 times in close to 2 years.

    well worth the $130/year to not listen to the screaming racists in the AM and Glenn and his Idiot monkeys on the drive home.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. I listen until they start screaming over each other, forgetting they have an audience.

    I AM curious about the actual owner of the station and why he (or she or they) would allow such badly-informed and racist opinions to be part of that morning broadcast. Does the owner agree with such mean-spirited and ill-informed blathering?

    My father was in radio for thirty years and would always have been able to replay his show for his kids. This morning show is damaging to young and old alike, not only for its bad taste and mean tone, but because it is snide and smug. Your children will remember you for this stuff.

    Posted by Michael February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. Ummmm... much difference between your soap box and EEI's?

    I'm a big boy, I know when I've had enough....

    Posted by JPBIII February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. Great article, I commend your brass balls. I stopped listening to D&C during the election because they made me so mad I was getting to work pissed off. Now I listen to music on the way to work and I am much calmer. Some of their comments should have had them in jail for treason. Such hatred is bad for all, both sides of the isle. Funny, I moved back here last spring and was so looking forward to having WEEI back; I now see I was missing nothing. I tolerate the big show just to make sure I do not miss the whiner line. But I’d like to smack Pete Sheppard if I ever saw his stupid face around.

    Posted by Mike J February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. Satellite radio is so stinkin cheap these days - it's $10/month & I get a ton of quality sports channels, including ESPN's Mike & Mike in the morning.... No reception problems & I love it.

    Posted by Bryan February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. Chad Finn - maybe you should spend more time exploring your lack of journalistic integrity. There's a story here, but it's about the Globe's ban on its staff appearing on WEEI. How come you don't write about that? Maybe because it's your paper and you're more concerned with hiding a real story because it makes your employer look bad. A newspaper bans its staff from speaking their mind at an outlet they want to (and we know all the sports guys at the Globe WANT to be able to appear on WEEI and speak their mind about sports). SO rather than write a true unbiased article, you take your marching orders and talk the company line. Congrats for being such a company man, Finn. You've given up on your personal and professional integrity, but your corporate bosses will be happy with you. Next time you lament the deterioration of the media and journalistic standards, just look in the mirror for the cause.

    Posted by JC February 26, 09 12:49 PM
  1. great article.

    thanks for having the spine to say that the emperor truly has no clothes.

    The worst part is that the Boston sports Fan deserves better than what is offered on talk radio

    good call on the fact that subtle racism permeates some shows, how can Callahan still have a job when he made derogatory comments about African Americans

    and the coverage of the Ramirez saga was terribly one sided, and EEI was in the tank for the sox,

    Posted by chert February 26, 09 12:50 PM
  1. great column. EEI is almost unlistenable. Felger's great. the rest are terrible

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 12:50 PM
  1. I have read the Globe for a while and I have never read Chad's article, nor knew of his name before. D&C can make me upset with their politics, but it is good to hear from the other side around here; even if I don't agree most of the time. I would have advised Chad this: Chad write more articles, and get a name before you try this. Rusillo tried and failed before he had a name. Keep it going WEEI, and especially to the morning and afternoon crew, keep it up!

    Posted by david leahy February 26, 09 12:50 PM
  1. I was under the impression that WEEI is a radio station dedicated to discussing sports matters. I could care less what Dennis and Callahan's political views are nor do I care to have them thrust upon me when I really just want to hear about last night's game.

    Can we please just stick to sports or find some new hosts that will?

    Posted by JFA February 26, 09 12:50 PM
  1. Bruce Allen for President!

    Jay aka #58 aka Pete Sheppard, you s*ck!

    Posted by HamLah February 26, 09 12:50 PM
  1. "Oh please. What is absurd is painting Callahan as anything BUT a racist."

    To the person who said above. Are you serious? WHy because he calls it like it is whether they are black, chinese, white or indian? Just because his views are probably different than yours (I'm guessing you are a liberal) you paint him as a racist. That is pretty weak.

    Posted by Brandon February 26, 09 12:51 PM
  1. I think the best programming on WEEI is from midnight on. I work in bars and night clubs, and on my drive home from Boston to Quincy. Ben Mallard is about as non-bias as a sportscaster can get now a days. I do enjoy the winer line on my drive home from work, but D&C are pretty repugnant. I try and try to give them a chance and they keep sticking their feet in their mouths. Great article.

    Posted by Chris Barbaro February 26, 09 12:52 PM
  1. Most WEEI hosts are never wrong and never listen to your opinion. Shows were good some time ago but are so old now. Dale and Holly are tolerable but the others need to stop talking politics and stop pretending they know everything. Bunch of frauds and haters talking about the same thing over and over! They have no competition and that doesn't help. Big money wasted on these clowns too! Shame!

    Posted by Junk Yard Dog February 26, 09 12:52 PM
  1. I could not agree more. I'm afraid that Dennis and Callahan do alot of damage as their far right views are borderline ignorant. People actually take them seriously. The afternoon show is all about interuptions and who can shout the loudest. Dale I can tolerate, and think Michael Holley is by far the best host on WEEI.

    Posted by Brenda February 26, 09 12:52 PM
  1. Chad,

    Right on! I agree that the Big Show can be extremely annoying. Glen Ordway talks over everyone, doesn't let callers finish a sentence, and when the 4 "hosts" start with the screaming over each other, I can listen anymore. I want to listen to some thoughtful sports conversation about the days events, not little kids yelling and screaming at each other. I can get that at home. Funny, the Big Show is better when Pete Sheppard hosts when Glen is out, at least he takes more calls and lets the fans have their say. Also, the morning show seems to be better when Dennis & Callahan aren't on because I don't give two craps about "24" or politics either. I want the latest sports news (how the 4 local teams did the night before etc.) and good sports dialog on the way to work. Why is that so hard?

    Posted by Sobo316 February 26, 09 12:52 PM
  1. Wow, I am pretty mad at myself for wasting time reading this article. If you don't like WEEI, turn the dial Chad. Looks to me like you are either jealous or you needed some sort of publicity so you decided to write something "controversial" about WEEI so they would talk about you. I have a funny feeling that you turned in to WEEI and have been listening the whole time ever since this article was posted. Hoping to insult them, yet use them to help yourself gain more "hits" on this page. I commend you being smart and finding a way for people to read your garbage. I certainly have continued my boycott of the Boston Globe newspaper and will never buy "The OT" which will no longer exist at this time next year. But enjoy the hits today, they probably won't appear this big on any other article you write, unless it is a follow up on WEEI. And I will continue to listen to WEEI, regardless of this article. Jealousy....what an ugly word, huh Chad?

    Posted by Dan February 26, 09 12:53 PM
  1. Can someone give Chad Finn a big WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Sounds like he was picked last in kickball at recess. Chad, were you denied a job at WEEI???

    Posted by Chad Finn's Daddy February 26, 09 12:54 PM
  1. WEEI can always improve but I agree with Brian here "Sounds like sour grapes to me!" They can also cut it with the Political complaints here. Every other media outlet is 100% on the left, heaven forbid one program is on the right side of things.

    I don't think the Big Show is trying to be an intellectual sports talk program. I think that they are all losers who think they are bigger than life, but I still enjoy their program.

    Felger is great too, they need to get him hosting a show.

    Posted by Nate February 26, 09 12:54 PM
  1. I generally agree with Finn’s premise; however WEEI is successful for these reasons:

    1. Glen Ordway is the most talented personality on the station and generally has his thumb on the pulse of the city.
    2. There is no suitable local competition.
    3. The appetite for sports discussion overrides the need for quality programming.

    What WEEI doesn’t realize is that when you don’t discuss sports; you are more dependent on the quality of their personalities. …and most of the talent at the station is out of touch and/or horrible. Butch Sterns, this means you!

    But the real reason why are they so successful-the programming they shovel-out is appealing to the mindless masses who suffer from prolonged adolescence.

    Posted by Rob G. February 26, 09 12:54 PM
  1. Dale & Holly are fine. But Dennis & Callahan... not any more. If it wasn't for Boomer's football visits I'd never listen. Why can't they drop the politics? I don't turn to WEEI for right wing rants; I want sports. I know more and more people who have turned to "the other station" rather than put up with their caveman politics. I think the author's right. D&C are sitting in the middle of a rabid sports "town" and think that they bring the ratings in. Mike & Mike are such a breadth of fresh air. D&C should do the math in this Democratic state -- drop the politics and double your audience.

    Posted by Dennis Callahan (seriously) February 26, 09 12:54 PM
  1. Also, the Whiner Line is the worst thing on the radio station. It encourages the narrow-minded and ugliest attitudes of the listeners and turns each afternoon's program into a boy's club devoid of content.

    My opinion of call-ins is so low that I automatically switch to another station whenever they open up the phone lines. I couldn't care less what some ignorant townie thinks about Manny.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 12:55 PM
  1. I miss Wendi Nix.

    Posted by Forlorn Guy February 26, 09 12:55 PM
  1. The godawful Callahan represents everything I hate about Boston and its idiot, know-nothing, lily-white conservative minority. He should join Fox News and get it over with.

    Posted by tinisoli February 26, 09 12:55 PM
  1. It shocks me that Dennis and Callahan still have a show. They are despicable. Does anyone listen to them anymore besides the 4 people in this neck of the woods that tune into Rush in the afternoon? And I can say living in Western Mass EEI is unfortunately the only option. They're so highly rated because there are no other options. Its easy to be number 1 when you are the only one.

    Posted by Abdz February 26, 09 12:56 PM
  1. I can't listen to Dumb and Dumber in the morning, except when they are interviewing guests like Larry Lucchino. I turned them off and listen to Mike and Mike over on ESPN. I'll listen to Dale and Holley because they have something to say, and I will really miss Mustard and Johnson on the weekend come spring. (Lawnmowing with headphones) . If Glenn had someone besides his three insufferable idiots Pete, Fred, and DeOssie on all the time, the Big Show woudl be better. . Felger is just plain provocatively annoying.

    Posted by Steve February 26, 09 12:56 PM
  1. Finn! Great article 10/10!

    D&C - Awful, D&H - Decent, TBS - absolute garbage, PM - worse than TBS..

    Bring back Ben Maller overnights on FOX Sports Radio, that was the best show on EEI, or better yet EEI hire Ben Maller to replace the Big Idiot

    Posted by HamLah February 26, 09 12:56 PM

  1. CF, had to blast you last week ...John Buck is family, but you honestly nailed it this week. WEEI is a shameful 'comedy' in and of itself. More often than not, if you push yourself to listen for a short while, you can actually feel brain cells being sucked out of your ears! The mid-day program can be tolerable, but the morning, afternoon, and evening programs are insulting to anybody with ears, a brain, and actual athletic ability. Kudos this week!

    Posted by jc February 26, 09 12:56 PM
  1. I wonder how many of the negative comments are from some of the WEEI staffers themselves? I agree with everything that Chad wrote in the article and many of my friends/coworkers discuss the same problems when trying to listen. I am one that tunes in to hear sports and immediately tune away when politics come up, especially in the AM. I too wish that Dale and Holley were on during the drive times instead of Midday. One complaint Chad missed are the constant commercial skits about the on air "talent" that just aren't funny to the listeners, especially when they are about pecadillo's that should be fixed, not laughed at. Another is the constant discussion about what food they are eating and how much. I just really don't care!

    Posted by JES February 26, 09 12:57 PM
  1. WEEI has its childish moments... but this IS sports radio, not C-SPAN. How thoughtfully are you supposed to discuss Julio Lugo's issues at the plate?

    Switch to ESPN radio and you'll discover that their hosts are even bigger suck-ups to anyone who can run a respectable time in the 40.

    Posted by SurroundSound February 26, 09 12:57 PM
  1. i think i should have appointed gerry callahan secretary of state

    Posted by osama obama February 26, 09 12:58 PM
  1. Monansky is horrible. He's the Norm Crosby of sports talk radio. He once was so sick of talking about Jason Varitek that he called for a "memorandum" on Varitek talk. Um, Mike...the word is moratorium....and that's just one example He mis-uses the English language like no other...and he speaks for a living. Mike, before you go to use a word, try the dictionary to make sure you are using the correct one.

    Posted by Mick February 26, 09 12:58 PM
  1. In the words of the immortal Pete Shepard. You're a turd.

    Posted by WEEI FAN-O February 26, 09 01:00 PM
  1. Hey Chad, hemorrhoids kicking up again? Listen, if you or anyone else out there doesn't like WEEI don't listen to them, it's simple solution. I like the Big Show and Plant Mikey but I also need a break once and awhile (like when they talk about the Bruins, which fortunately is rare) and switch to more thoughtful programming. Isn't it funny your complaining about a station none of your "journalists" ever appear on. Oh that's right, Globe "journalists " only appear on a station they have an ownership partnership with along with two of the major sports franchises in town. I bet Dan Shaughnessy made you write this, didn't he?

    Posted by JP Michaud February 26, 09 01:00 PM
  1. About 8 years ago, i moved out of boston and got the chance to start listening to some of the national sports radio stations... it was like a breath of fresh air. It's not all boston sports teams all the time like I'd rather hear about, but it's people that actually think before they speak.

    Posted by Jonathan Bravo February 26, 09 01:01 PM
  1. After hearing that "Moonbat" Jerry Callahan and his spew of crap, that's when I decided that I had just about had enough of EEI.

    They may pick on Teddy Sarandis, but he knew how to run a radio show. I give credit to Chad for writing this article, basically saying what a lot of people have been feeling. EEI is a former shell of itself, compared to over the years, going back to the 590 days. The hosts didn't make the radio station, the 6 titles in 6 years did that, as people were looking for an outlet for what was going on with the Pats, Red Sox and Celtics.

    The one person who I will listen to on that station, which isn't very often, is Michael Felger. He knows how to handle a radio progam.

    Also, the one radio program that I would listen to, Mustard and Johnson, is gone, because since they made such an investment in Bradford and the other guy, that M&S were victims of that, which was really too bad. Yeah, they did talk a lot of crap Yankee talk, but it was a great show to listen too.

    Ooh well, EEI was fun. Thank the media/entertainment god for Sirius/Ipod's of the world, because EEI is no fun.

    Posted by WEEI stinks February 26, 09 01:01 PM
  1. D&C have become totally unlistenable, and the drive time show is almost as bad. I've switched over to 890 ESPN Radio in the morning and afternoon. Mike & Mike, despite being national, are at least entertaining, civil, and discuss sports with some decent guests. Lew and Mike in the afternoon are a great take. They intelligently discuss sports with a decidedly local slant without being overly pedantic.

    Posted by Jeff February 26, 09 01:01 PM
  1. He lost me when he included the word "smartest" and the name Felger
    in the same sentence.

    Posted by bob metcalf February 26, 09 01:02 PM
  1. "refuse to point out your factual missteps"
    Sorry, but doesn't the Globe do this on a daily basis...and the Globe is supposed to present the news!
    At least talk radio is up front with the fact that they present opinionated blathering. The Globe presents opinionated blathering as "news"!

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 01:02 PM
  1. "I'm shocked at how many people are ripping Chad here. "

    I wonder how many of those people are Entercom employees?

    Posted by BSF34 February 26, 09 01:03 PM
  1. Hate to be reptitive but get Sirius XM radio and listen to some real experts on sports talk. Not some half-assed blowhart on a Boston station that hates every other team other than Boston teams.

    Posted by JR February 26, 09 01:03 PM
  1. Totally agree. I loved Felger's show on 890, and don't mind WEEI when he subs in for one of the D&C racists on the morning drive. The new 890 evening show is pretty good when I can get reception.

    Posted by f February 26, 09 01:03 PM
  1. It's the morning that kills me, they are the height of arrogance. I can't take it (and I am not even a liberal). Plus, they can't even really call it sports radio because, aside from "the Flash" and golf talk, there's little to no sports discussed. I suppose I would like the show more if I was still a "24" fanatic 3 seasons after the show was even relevant. In the mid-day, afternoon and evening, I really enjoy WEEI. The programming actually involves sports, and they don't take themselves too seriously.

    Posted by Marc February 26, 09 01:03 PM
  1. Thanks for writing this - EVERYTHING you said is true, though unfortunately, you will get slammed by the basement-dwellers who get airtime. By the way, I've listened for over 5 years to this station, and listen EVERY day even though it drives me nuts - Dale and Holley are great though.
    There are some unspoken mantras over at WEEI:
    If you are a female, you know nothing about sports. And, if you happen to call when Glen is on, he will speak "baby talk" to you as if you cannot understand.
    Oh, and if you're a female, you are considered a "pink hat".
    If you are not a Republican - actually, wait, you can be a Republican, but you've got to be SO far over to the right that you consider Bush TOO liberal, you CANNOT listen to Dennis and Callahan and their vitriol.

    Posted by BosSportsGal February 26, 09 01:03 PM
  1. As others have said, my day strarted off much better waking up to Felger rather than the dark cynicism of DNC. I've listened to WEEI for a long time, and the Big Show is, in fact, going down hill. Fast. Old stuff, shallower than ever. Winer line is PAINFUL and completely dumb and just not funny. The long commercial breaks on WEEI are also a reason not to tune in. I do like Dale & Holley, Mike Adams, and, when they are on, Sean McAdams, Felger, Cedric Maxwell, and the bit-guy (Gufstason?). I wish Mike Gorman had his own show.

    Posted by df3 February 26, 09 01:04 PM
  1. Do their advertisers honestly believe that listeners are staying tuned in during those 15 minute advertising blocks?

    Posted by Mitch February 26, 09 01:04 PM
  1. Good stuff. WEEI has some good things going for it (Dale and Holley, the crack Celtics broadcast team of Grande and Max), but unfortunately a listener cannot just lazily leave the dial locked without having to squirm through hours of absolute crap. I don't mind D&C too much when they stick to sports -- I can ignore Callahan's smugness and Dennis' lapdog cheesery when the talk is confined to the finer aspects of athletics -- but any talk of politics, or even social issues, and those guys devolve into a couple of loudmouthed goofballs who shout down listeners and insult people who think differently. I also don't mind the Big O and his gang, because they have thelocker room feel that you'd expect on a sports station. You can smell the old dirty socks! I also like Mikey, mainly becsue he's unabashedly goofy and anachronistic.

    Posted by Rich February 26, 09 01:04 PM
  1. This had to be said. If it's not a 20 minute commercial-a-thon , it's mostly just pounding your head against the pavement radio. yeah, we get it A-Rod is lying and on roids..we get it we get it. Did we really need nearly 2 weeks worth ot this crap-o-la. Thank god I discovered internet XM radio for free (I ain't tellin) so that I can listen to quality hockey and baseball talk. The only redeeming thing I find about EEI is Felger (states his mind w/o fear of being wrong), Mikey Adams (just wants to entertain) & the Whiner line (creative jokes ..sometimes)...blow up everything else!

    Posted by Darren February 26, 09 01:04 PM
  1. A+ ...don't let the lowest common denominators, which you speak of, get you down in this comments section. You just rocked their world and they can't handle it. Most real, knowledgeable sports fans agree 100%. Well done Chad.

    Posted by UMA February 26, 09 01:05 PM
  1. If you think Michael Felgers show was "the smartest show" than either you have no taste or are just dumb.

    This article is unreadable that is why I stopped in the middle.

    Posted by Frank February 26, 09 01:05 PM
  1. Chad,

    You are right on! I could not agree more. Two quick points; I don't know where they get their ratings for the morning show but I refuse to listen to a Rush Limpbaugh worshiping, Bush ball licking right winger.

    Also guys, lighten up. With the exception of former pros none of the hosts for guests know any more about sports than I.....

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 01:05 PM
  1. I cant believe anybody thinks Dale and Holley is a great show! I like Holley to certain extent but dale Arnold is nothing but a male version of Suzyn Waldmen! I cringe when he does sox games.He isnt bad at Hockey but wait I hate the Bruins. The only team in hockey I hate worse is the Canadiens.Talk Radio is what it is atleast your not reading or hearing the political garbage that most of the national media is shoving down your throats.Most people on talk radio dont pretend to be anything but what they are.Dennis and Callahan and Planet Mikey are the best shows.

    Posted by Jeremy February 26, 09 01:06 PM
  1. Shame on the Globe. Just because the personalities on WEEI out-perform and provide greater entertainment than their writers, they make this negative rant a headline. If the Globe sports department would like to have the kind of success that WEEI has enjoyed, they should make the necessary changes. Instead, they find it easier to slam and slander the competition. Why make the effort to step up your own game when it is quicker to cut at the knees of another. This is why the Globe has grown more and more repulsive over the years. WEEI's ratings continue to top the market because they provide the entertainment we enjoy. The Globe's readership continues to shrink because people are tired of this kind of printed garbage. Expect a similar hit piece on the Herald next week.... but not NESN. After all, NESN is where the Globe's writers work.

    Posted by Mark M. February 26, 09 01:06 PM
  1. Ordway and Shepard finally wore me down and I haven't listened to sports radio in a few years. Two of the biggest blowhards on radio. Absolutely ridiculous that Shepard is even on the radio. Seriously, how is he on the radio?

    Posted by qqqthats4q's February 26, 09 01:06 PM
  1. I agree with Chad. I used to listen to WEEI whenever I was in the car, but can't stand the tone and the tons of commercials. I'll get my sports info from the interweb, and am happy as a clam listening to Sirius or my iPod while driving.

    Commercial radio is going to go the way of the dodo, and this economy will speed it up.

    Posted by Paulie February 26, 09 01:06 PM
  1. I couldn't possibly agree more. I listen simply because it's the only game in town but I refuse to listen to those nitwits Dennis and Callahan. I loved it a year ago when they were both out and the station was rotating hosts. That made for a nice ride to work but now I'll listen to Imus thank you.

    It would really be great if this whole idea gained some traction and woke those people up. Put Larry Johnson on in the morning with anybody and it'll be 100% better than D&C.

    Posted by kidcanton February 26, 09 01:06 PM
  1. Great Article. Don't worry about the minority who criticize you, because you criticized something they like, they clearly cannot receive or accept criticism without feeling that you just insulted their entire family, beliefs, interest and probably their entire existence. Gutsy articles are a pleasure to read when they are done well, and this one was. I agree about most of your points and while i disagree with some, i feel the overall scope of the article is well based in facts and on point the a majority of the problems of EEI. Unfortunately ,unless you get your own radio show out of the deal, nothing is going to change and there is nothing else to listen to that caters to our ferocious interest in all things boston sports related.

    Posted by JT February 26, 09 01:06 PM
  1. Hate it? Bothers you? Moronic? Tiresome? Shrill? Vapid?

    Idea:

    Don't turn it on. Duh.

    Posted by John Harrington February 26, 09 01:07 PM
  1. I've turned the dial a long time ago away from WEEI.

    The morning show has become unlistenable, and I am NOT a democrat!!

    The afternoon show is a yell fest with little positive discussion.

    Mikey, I think you're entertaining, but the same schtick night after night gets a little lame.
    Dale and Holley, Mut and Bradford are the saving graces for me.

    Posted by rtbucket February 26, 09 01:07 PM
  1. Newsflash....The Globe doesn't like Republicans or anyone who sounds like one!

    The vitriol of the D&C show is more than evenly matched by the throngs of left-wing lemmings chiming in here. Zealots are insufferable, whether they be from the left or right. Thanks to all the loons for commenting here and proving my point.

    Posted by Huh? February 26, 09 01:07 PM
  1. While I'm glad to see Chad Finn write about most of the points in the article, he does it in the very meathead way he is attacking. It's nothing but a rant, rather than a well thought out opinion like the ones he thinks are missing from WEEI. It would be great if he could have just stated the points like a columnist rather than a WEEI caller. I listen to Mike & Mike in the morning, but then it's WEEI the rest of hte time.

    Get rid of D&C, Pete Sheppard, and Mike Adams and it would be a step up. Of course it could be worse....Eddie Andelman could still have a show.

    Posted by John February 26, 09 01:08 PM
  1. WEEI is awesome. Yes there are some arrogant radio show hosts, I don't even listen in the am. But it's the best around. It connects the New England fans in a way that didn't before. Fans can call up and challenge sports writers directly and different views can be shared (most of the time). NY has WFAN and others, LA and other markets have their sports radio and this one unifies New England (Maine to Connecticut), which is no small feat.

    Posted by Ben February 26, 09 01:10 PM
  1. one thing is for sure...eei has officially made the globe sports page irrelevant...

    Posted by mboy February 26, 09 01:10 PM
  1. mike and mike are vanilla and so unfunny, i can't stand Greeny--and those dumb bits that they do! Also, how is it that a former NFL defensive lineman's catchphrase is STOP IT!--uttered like a schoolgirl...


    but WEEI sucks worse because it actually gets under my skin--how bad they are! they both SUCK, just in different ways--

    I liked TEd Serandas

    Posted by lovinspoonfu February 26, 09 01:10 PM
  1. The godawful Callahan represents everything I hate about Boston and its idiot, know-nothing, lily-white conservative minority. He should join Fox News and get it over with.

    Posted by tinisoli February 26, 09 12:55

    tinisoli

    You are a racist

    Posted by Frank February 26, 09 01:11 PM
  1. This is good stuff. Normally I listen to 890 and when they go to break I check 850. It was an embarassment when the four "talents" tried to beat-up the kid who would dare ask an awkward question to Coach Calhoun. Calhoun completely overreacted and he should have replied a history exists with he and the reporter/blogger and the question wil be addressed later. His image took a little hit. As for the negative postings of WEEI here, we will take a black eye from the "talents" because they control what goes out over the airwaves.

    Posted by agingss February 26, 09 01:11 PM
  1. Ordway is just going to say" Then don't listen if you dont like it"

    They need to open up the lines of communication between fans and the radio shows like Opie and Anthoney did with PalTalk. I wouldn't mind listening and giving them instant feedback when they make stupid remarks.

    Posted by MattyBalls February 26, 09 01:12 PM
  1. It is better than other staions throughout the U.S..

    Posted by Fatty February 26, 09 01:13 PM
  1. I'm glad somebody at the Globe finally wrote what everyone in the Boston radio market has been thinking for YEARS. We listen ONLY because there is no alternative and we don't like it. The column really argues for competition, but as everyone in the media business knows, competition in the Boston radio market is virtually dead since the advent of multiple station ownership. What is most disgusting is the behavior of the (all-male incidentally) on-air hosts and co-hosts who think their radio shows are about THEM!. Callahan is the worst of the old-school Boston newspaper columnists with lots of opinions, few facts to back them up, and a subtle racism that he has worked very hard to mask unsuccessfully. Dennis is a glib, professional talking head - whatever works, he'll do it. He tries to play Mr. Fair and Balanced to Callahan's right wing spewing. Why both of them are not on Fox 25 instead of sports radio is hard to figure. The only bright spot is Mike Adams, who genuinely entertains, holds considered (not rabid) opinions on the major sports franchises and their personnel, and seems to realize that radio should entertain (not bore), it should engage (not alienate) and it should inform. Admittedly, Adams doesn't have the bloated budgets of the Morning Show or Ordway's bloated Big Show, but then again he's on late night, when the audience is significantly smaller. The major drive time programming (6A-10A; 3P-6P) contains very little reporting, very little new or unique information and, I'm not sucking up here, without the Globe reporters lending legitimacy to the proceedings, the best they can do on most days is call up some online sports blogger with virtually no credibility who might have an interesting "fact based" point of view, instead of offering up more blather. Last but not least, let's be honest: with the exception of Mike Adams (once again the bright spot) none of these guys are funny. Not funny at all!! I mean really, really NOT FUNNY! Clearly the owner (Entercom), the station management and the individual show producers have absolutely no idea what funny is. For the average WEEI host, funny is burping, farting, being fat, being stupid (I will admit, here, that this may be the one area where they unintentionally flirt with comedy). Listen, if you can't be naturally funny when ad-libbing or winging it, which they all do most of the time (again, Mike Adams is the ONLY exception in a 24-hour period) then please don't TRY to be funny because it only makes it worse. The reason it's bad radio is that we don't CARE about the people on the air - they give us nothing to care about. They continually crack themselves up, and no one listening is entertained. Consider some of the really good Boston sports radio personalities of the past, including Bob Lobel in his early radio days, Eddie Andelman at his most unctious, or even Sean McDonough's easy going approach that he attempted a few years back on 1510. At least that group engaged the listener. They spouted opinion, but they also tried to get some facts (alright, not always the case with Eddie A.). Boston AM talk radio is bad in general. But Boston's WEEI sports radio has really hit bottom. Too bad it's the only game in town. And too bad it sounds like it.

    Posted by Bob Hoffman February 26, 09 01:14 PM
  1. The 5 months that Gerry Callahan was out while recovering from throat surgery were the happiest times of my life. I could actually listen to WEEI in the morning without being personally insulted for my political affiliation. I haven't listened to Dennis & Callahan since. Those two need to stick to sports talk. I honestly don't know anyone who appreciates their political banter. I find myself listening to ESPN radio more and more. I'd rather listen to Mike & Mike in the morning (whose content is 90% sports related!) than those right-wing angry men.

    Posted by ericasox February 26, 09 01:14 PM
  1. Great Article and SO TRUE. I'm not a weekend listener, but Michael Holly is the only EEI personality worth listening to. The morning show is a joke. Unfortunately the Big O show is the only legit afternoon game in town. If there were another credible option I'd give EEI the BIG NO after 2pm. ESPN Boston should step it up and hire Felger and Russillo.
    Just because half the people around here don't pronounce their R's doesn't mean they're un-intelligent. Give them some intelligent sports radio options.

    Posted by Chris in Brookline February 26, 09 01:15 PM
  1. I live in Texas and am a Boston Red Sox and Boston Celtics fan. I have been a fan of those two teams all my life. I used to listen to WEEI to get information and feedback about my teams I can't always get here where I live. I still enjoy the morning shows but absolutely despise "The Big Show" and it used to be one of my favorite shows. For the last year I've heard nothing but insults directed to listeners like me and the "gang up" on guests mentaility because the afternoon drive show doesn't like what the guest has done or said. That is just a turn off. You think they would show more class than they do.

    Posted by Danny February 26, 09 01:15 PM
  1. This comment section, like most article comment sections on Boston.com, is a perfect example of the lack of civility and intelligence that make stations like WEEI popular. Catering to the lowest common denominator will always give you high ratings.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 01:16 PM
  1. As a long-time listener to EEI, who now lives out-of-region, you've got some really good points in here, Chad. However, EEI's content is head, shoulders, knees and toes above the innane ramblings I get here in Denver, which mostly consists of local yokels talking about how the Broncos got robbed of a Super Bowl last year because of the Hochuli mis-call against San Diego.

    Posted by The Air is Thin Up Here February 26, 09 01:16 PM
  1. You know what's funny? The reflexive defense of WEEI's irritating product. I can't listen to that station any more without cringing. Between D &C's awful sports opinions (their political stances are a mere prelude to their inability to make any intelligent points - remember "running up the score"Gate last year), Michael Holley's fantasy football team and OSU fetish, Ordway and company's love/hate relationship with callers and their bizarre obsession with Bruce Springsteen and Mike Adam's Captain Ahab impression where he hunts Manny Ramirez (ever heard of Jason Bay? Just curious).

    Sorry, you don't have to be a liberal to find this crap awful. Chad is right on. BTW: I have yet to find anything on commercial radio as entertaining as Car Talk. Score one for the elitists.

    Posted by Jon February 26, 09 01:17 PM
  1. CHAD FINN IS A JEALOUS PIECE OF FECES....

    Posted by CHAD FIN February 26, 09 01:18 PM
  1. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!! Dale and Holly is the ONLY listenable show on WEEI. I cannot believe people actually listen to Callahan and that other guy. And the big show is a joke!! Ordway truely believes he is smarter than your local gas station attendent. The way he talks to people actually makes me laugh. This goes for all of his "co-hosts" as well. The big show is catered for stupid people period......

    Posted by Josh26th February 26, 09 01:18 PM
  1. Thank GOD someone spoke up...I'm down in Rhode Island and as amateur-ish as 790 The Score used to be sometimes, I sure as hell wish I could listen to anything other than Dennis & Callahan in the morning. I was THRILLED when I heard Felger's voice on my alarm clock this morning. I actually kept listening when I got to work, usually I'm dying to turn EEI off. The Big Show is tolerable ONLY when they have good co-hosts and I don't mean Fred...I mean McAdams, Merloni Buck, etc...Pete sucks too.
    Dale and Holley are great and we rarely get to hear them if we work 9-5!
    We listen to you, EEI, because you're the only viable option and you have the most access. God help you if something even remotely comparable comes along!

    Posted by Ferg February 26, 09 01:18 PM
  1. EEi is beyond obnoxious.....just switch over to 890 and leave it there. It's done wonders for my eardrums.....

    Posted by tedsarandis February 26, 09 01:19 PM
  1. All of you who are complaining about this article are probably the same people who call in to WEEI with ridiculous comments such as...
    Why didn't the Red Sox trade Manny for Pujols?!?!?
    Or:
    Lowrie is terrible why isn't Cora in there?

    I want to hit you all in the head with a tack hammer....


    Posted by ckunh February 26, 09 01:19 PM
  1. Finn is right. Shows are frequently reactionary, luddite, borderline racist, bandwagony (note when they started discussing and airing the Celtics and Bruins again), and homerism to the point of inanity. The real problem - there's a giant market for it. You may as well ask the Herald to stop being so Heraldy and Hannity to not be so Hannity. Or say the words "fairness doctrine" and watch them all flip out.

    It's nice to see Finn's hit a nerve with some people. We can all relish Boston and Cambridge for being an intellectual (and yes, leftist) hub that just as smart about their sports devotion, but drive 15 miles North, South, or West, and you'll come across the Americana that's more than eager to tune in. You can start by changing your dial, but if you really want to change talk radio, you need to change the conditions that can incubate an anti-intellectual culture.

    Posted by Lou February 26, 09 01:19 PM
  1. The 1510 signal isn't that weak - I can get it in Natick. Plus you can always listen online. They have a great show on Saturday mornings at 11:00 AM called "The College Game" - all about college hoops this time of year. I'm looking forward to listening to them in March especially with the NCAA tournament East regionals coming to the Garden. EEI will probably still be talking about Manny.

    Posted by Matt February 26, 09 01:19 PM
  1. I would agree that the morning drive radio with D&C has become intolerable. I feel like I'm listening to Rush Limbaugh on sports radio. I've resorted to listening to traffic on the 3s instead of listening to those morons rant on about an administration that's been in place for all of one month.
    I like the Big Show, but can't stand Pete. Just because the big guy can talk the loudest, doesn't mean he's right. When the Big O is on vacation, which is all the time, I switch the dial.
    I'd have to say that Dale and Holley are terrific.

    Posted by Brendan February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. Screw Dennis and Callahan.. enough politics and get to the Sports. You should be able to find out in seconds whether or not our teams won or lost the next morning on a SPORTS RADIO network!!!!!!!! So infuriating to not get the info I want in the short time I have to listen!!!

    MORE SPORTS MORE SPORTS MORE SPORTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by MORE SPORTS!! February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. Who is Bruce Allen, and why does he have a posse?

    Posted by Fred February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. Could not have been said any better. I am sure this will be a topic of discussion this afternoon but all you will hear is we're #1. i used to listen all day long but have since migrated to 890 (Mike and Mike) and Howie Carr because I can't listen to these guys just talk over each other. 890 actually has relevant talk about current topics.The station is just old and stale but the egos are so bloated that we won't see a change anytime soon until the ratings drop.

    Posted by Gundah February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. I agree wholeheartedly!! I live in central Maine and when the WEEI feed was transmitted on our local radio, I was thinking, "WOW, it's about time!" Boy, has my mind changed dramatically. I don't listen to the morning show, I tried but I turn to WEEI for sports, not political banter from 2 morons. And the afternoon gang, what a bunch of loud mouth know-nothings!! Dale and Holley, nice work, though. I'm back to listening to my local sports in the am & pm.

    Posted by uncletom February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. Jason Wolf, the so called, Program Director is just a puppet 'hall monitor' for Glenn Ordway, the OVERpaid real shot caller. Boston is simply waiting for an FM
    station to realize that a music format is dead. ipods and satellite have taken over.
    Just go all sports on FM !!! It will blow these hacks out of the water. Brother, even Bob Lobel on crutches could beat them.

    Posted by Tesla February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. This article is a waste of time.

    Talk about the blatant bigotry of D & C if you want to stir controversy; don't trump up criticism of the Big Show for no apparent reason.

    Ordway, at least, keeps his baser conservative instincts at bay.

    Big show rules. D & C are truly morons of the first order, though, I still listen when they're talking sports.

    Posted by Rick February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. This obvious leftie author certainly belongs to the Globe. Dale and Holley are the wimps of the station, and that is when I turn the dial. The weekend programming is very weak now; the station management made a serious error when they canned Mustard and Johnson. I think that Chad Finn is looking for some kind of drawing room gentility; sports is a rough and tumble affair for those who participate and discuss it. Finn probably played tiddly winks and badminton as a youngster--good preparation for working at the Globe.

    Posted by Edgar February 26, 09 01:20 PM
  1. I couldn't agree more! WEEI has been the incidental beneficiary (uh oh, educated liberal alert) of unprecendent regional sports success. The Meatheads grunt and poke but offer little in the way of informed opinion.

    To quote HL Menken (educated liberal alert is red hot!!): No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. Therein lies EEI's mission statement


    Posted by A. Rosenau February 26, 09 01:21 PM
  1. Looks like everyone at Entercom got the memo to log on and defend their piece of junk station. Get satellite radio, folks. It cures all EEI ills.

    Posted by Bob D. February 26, 09 01:21 PM
  1. Thank god someone else said it. I love certain programs/hosts on EEI (Baseball show, Football show on Sundays during their seasons, Felger, Mutt/Bradford) because they actually are knowledgable about sports. Callahan I refuse to listen to. He should be working with Rush on some NON sports channel. I like Mike and Mike because they talk about sports, although it is a bit lightweight, but at least they are not venom-spewing. (They are also more like a connection between Sports Center rehashes than an actual show...)

    Posted by SportsFan February 26, 09 01:21 PM
  1. Nice job Chad, you can tell this struck a nerve, you can tell some of the folks listed in the article have chimed in. Ordway defending his hostship, KKKallahan spouting about the "wine and cheese crowd" and who new Smerlas could type!

    Posted by Steve February 26, 09 01:22 PM
  1. Your timing is perfect or this is great coincidence. WEEI's Ratings took it on the chin with Arbitrons Personal People Meter (PPM). WEEI's ratings were lack luster to say the least. WEEI get your PR guy on retainer QUICK!

    Posted by T. Calnan February 26, 09 01:22 PM
  1. I listen to aproximately 8-9 hours of sports talk radio a day - having a deskjob I always have the radio streaming from my computer and I can tell you that I refuse to listen to WEEI. Its waaaay too much Boston talk; as an avid sports fan I need some national sports talk mixed in every now and then so I just listed to espnradio.com. The Big Show is the worst - they are over opinionated and never let anyone with an opposing view get a word in edge wise. I cannot understand how WEEI gets the rating they do; sure, it might be enjoyable at first to listen to, but its the same thing day after day.

    Posted by EricB February 26, 09 01:22 PM
  1. I lived in NY for a few years, moved back here, and realized that ALL sports-talk radio is less entertaining and insightful than what you can hear in almost any bar. That said, WEEI is like the guy who wants only to grind his ax and shout about it. Both "D&C" and "The Big O" (where are the marketing and branding people at this station??) are fueled more by anger and boredom than a passion for sports, and Dale Arnold is just painful to hear on almost any topic. At least Mike Adams seems to know that it's all just a silly gig. Anyway, I gave up on the whole mess a while ago, and haven't looked back till now. Good riddance.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 01:23 PM
  1. Right On Chad!!!

    Being from RI and losing the choice of listening to the Score has really hurt. Luckily I can pick up the FAN from NY, and do have that option. I cannot listen to the snobs on the morning drive. Sooner or later they will make some racially insensitive remark and will be thrown off the air. Then maybe they will put Felger in there, who is much more interesting. And the yelling in the afternoon...no thanks. Please someone shut up Shepard, or at least tell him not to tell everyone he is from RI, what a tragedy that we are represented by the worse kind of loud mouth Italian stereo type you could find.

    Posted by Bob February 26, 09 01:23 PM
  1. OK, I'll read between the lines. Chad doesn't like Gerry Callahan. That's a big surprise coming from a Globey.

    I'm no more offended by Callahan's rants than the equally vitriolic rants of the liberal lemmings posting here. Zealots are offensive to me, whether they be on the left or right.

    The funniest thing is that all of the haters clearly listen to this station! Vote with your ears if you don't like it!

    Posted by Huh? February 26, 09 01:24 PM
  1. Funny the Globe people used to be in WEEI till YOUR editors stopped them. Basically you Globe Reporters have no guts to stand up to your Editors and speak to them. Hell Chad I bet you are such a spinless wonder you will not go on either.

    Your wrong for about 80% of your articile. ESPN and the other station you mention were extremely boring to listen to. Half they time it was a commericial.

    EEI's biggest problem is the morons in the morning, otherwise the station is great

    Posted by James E Stevenson February 26, 09 01:24 PM
  1. WEEI is Zweiback radio! JUST AWFUL. Hey program directors..please limit the jerks who call in all the time to just once a week. It is dull, dull dull to listen to these chronic callers who think they are articulate, but really only have one banal "insight" that is just a rehash of something they read in a newspaper. The sad part is the radio station could be so much better with a modicum of intelligence. I agree with many of the writers...XM radio's sports is a joy to listen to.

    Posted by Malcolm February 26, 09 01:24 PM
  1. I liked some of their programs, but they have the habit of beating things they find funny to death on The Big Show. For instance, Felger makes a reference to Larry Fitzgerald and I KNEW that this one was going to be THE showcase for the 2PM show. I haven't listened in weeks and I'm sure they're going on and on.....these guys make so many gay jokes, you gotta wonder.

    Posted by Marco February 26, 09 01:25 PM
  1. Have you ever heard Shepard on the flash say the word Saturday? it goes like this "The Celtics will be in New Orleans this Sundaydernight" How can the flash guy not even speak the language? seriously!! and you are the flash guy, not a personality shut the %$# up!!

    Posted by Josh26th February 26, 09 01:25 PM
  1. Thanks, Chad.
    The only time I listen to the radio is driving to and from work. D & C are like a bad hangover in the morning, I'll listen if I need to purge breakfast. Its WRKO or NPR if I want to hear [insightful?] political commentary. D & C are so far right wing, its hard to understand their popularity in Boston., but I think (and hope) its for lack of an better alternative.Their daily race-baiting would get them canned in many markets. Why not here?
    I enjoy Dale & Holly, but rarely get to listen to their show. I wish they were on in the morning!
    The Big Show is just plain boring, except for the Whiner Line, which I would enjoy more if they would turn down the volume of the background disco when Im trying to listen to barely discernable recorded voice messages.
    Sports is entertainment. I like to escape from the daily political issues when I am listening to sports or sports radio. WEEI should get rid of D & C, or tell them to stick to sports talk.

    Posted by Iggster February 26, 09 01:26 PM
  1. I caved and bought Sirius Satellite Radio 2 1/2 years ago...if you want serious football talk, without a bunch of whining and yelling....fork over the 50 bucks for a receiver and get the subscription. Sirius NFL Radio guys like Tim Ryan, Pat Kirwan, Bob Papa, Adam Schein, and Randy Cross, make the guys on the Big Show sound like a bunch of amateurs. Not only that, but there are a ton of sports shows on Sirius that are way more informative than the meathead driven crap that's on WEEI.

    Posted by Chad February 26, 09 01:26 PM
  1. I don't mind The Big Show, yeah it's a lot of bluster, yelling, goofy opinions blah blah blah... but when you turn it on, it's at least about sports. you know what you're getting

    ... which is why I listen to Mike & Mike in the mornings instead of D&C. I agree with some of their points and disagree on others but when I tune into a sports station, I actually want to hear about sports... not these two idiots blabbering with their political commentary. "Dino" comes across as the world's biggest dbag and Callahan is right behind him. Someone should fill 'em in that having a morning slot on EEI doesn't make them the most knowledgable politcal commentators on the planet.

    Maybe Fox news will have an opening the two of them can jump to and I'll be able to flip back to EEI and actually hear... oh... I dunno... Boston sports talk?!?

    Posted by Hossthepatsfan February 26, 09 01:26 PM
  1. So, if the market is so ripe, why aren't there more choices? Other's have tried yet failed. I'd be open to change the dial to, say, Sean McDunna or others, but nobody is up to the challange.

    Posted by Rodney February 26, 09 01:27 PM
  1. i made the switch to mike and mike because 1) they actually talk about sports 2) i don't have the republican talking points yelled at me for the 45 minutes i drive to work.
    it's made life infinitely more happy and upbeat. sorry, i don't like 24/7 bitching and whining.

    Posted by thatguy February 26, 09 01:28 PM
  1. Kid Canton--you have it right. Larry Johnson almost always has something insightful to say, except when he gets buried on the Big Show. But Imus? Nah.

    Partail to Dale, as a fellow Bowdoin grad. Just plain like Dale and Holley because they don't manufacture disagreement like the other shows.

    Mikey Adams--what can you say? He is a loose cannon who provides entertainment--I can't take him seriously. But, he is occasionally very funny.

    WEEI has managed to get free unpaid entertainment, with regular callers like Frank from Gloucester, Jim the Wrestling Goon, and the various whiner line regulars. Nice when you can get it for free. But Frank and Jim add nothing to the sports conversation.

    Posted by Steve February 26, 09 01:28 PM
  1. The problem is less WEEI and more sports culture in general. The fact is most sports fans are raving idiots. We point this out all the time when talking about fans of other cities teams while glossing over the rampant stupidity right here in our own back yards. WEEI obviously fosters and thrives on that culture which is why it is now currently a self feeding entity whose hosts rely on in jokes, caller gimmicks, and provocative schtick to get over with the fans. Why do you think the whiner line is so popular (even though is funny), or why when D&C need a "black voice" to prop up their neocon bullshit Jermaine or Everett are always on hand?

    These hosts are provincial, boorish, loudmouths who cater to and benefit from the lowest common denominator, the local provincial, boorish, loudmouths who live in the greater Boston area. If the same dynamics existed on a radio station in Alabama we'd all call the station, the hosts and its callers inbred rednecks. But since it's Boston and the ladi dah big fancy city the swollen arrogance of the station and astounding ignorance of so many of its listeners is lost to the ether as the self perpetuating success of the station and listener alike exist in a bubble of hilarious New England ignorance.

    Posted by Damain February 26, 09 01:28 PM
  1. I am getting a little tired of WEEI. First, the two numskulls in the morning need to go, not sure why they have high ratings. I am the most happy when I tune in and one or both are on vactions (which happens frequently). No one cares about their political views, especially JC. Unfortunately I don' tlisten to the midday as much cause, well maybe I work (weird huh), this is the most intelligent of the shows and more sports centered. Those two should get a better time slot. Now can someone tell me why you need 4 or 5 buffoons on one show, never made sense to me, why not cut it to one buffoon and maybe a guest buffoon here and there. I don't mind MA in the evening, he is rather childish, but is entertaing, at least he is a lone buffoon with an intelligent guest host with the guy from the providence paper.

    Posted by jm12444 February 26, 09 01:28 PM
  1. #192 has it right. To not mention the Globe's numerous failed attempts to unsurp WEEI is telling. This is another broadside attempt by this New York media group to try to run off what they cannot buy and cannot beat. Maybe a few more hundred variations of a Bob Ryan talk show will eventually hit the mark.

    Posted by BobRyansaidwhataboutKiddswife? February 26, 09 01:29 PM
  1. I live in Bangor, Maine. We have a local sports radio station owned by Stephen King which has locally produced sports radio talk shows during morning and night drive times. Another local station recently joined the WEEI "sports radio network" which means that it carries the WEEI talk radio shows. Great, I thought. Now I can get some more interesting, sophisticated Boston-based talk radio while I shave in the morning. WRONG!!! I can't believe the drivel that WEEI is purveying as major market talk radio. After three days or so, I went back to our local station where the hosts, who I never thought of as particularly articulate or inciteful, run circles around Dennis and Callahan. WEEI should be embarrassed.

    Posted by Bangor Sports Fan February 26, 09 01:29 PM
  1. Well before his fall from grace, I stopped listening to Don Imus because he started discussing his ratings more than his material. That was a big red flag that he'd forgotten why he was on the air.

    Now WEEI is making my point. Hey: we don't want to hear about your ratings, your catering, your internecine feuds, or your Neanderthal politics; we want to hear about--and talk about--SPORTS. Set the rest aside before we do the same to you.

    Posted by Ernest Scribbler February 26, 09 01:29 PM
  1. Chad,
    Great article I couldn't agree more I hate this station other than D & H. I miss Mustard and Johnson on Saturdays and now hardly listen anymore as the new guys are so boring.

    Posted by Steve February 26, 09 01:29 PM
  1. I could not agree with you more!!!

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 01:30 PM
  1. FELLOW WEEI HATERS!!!

    I have been waiting for an article like this for some time. We need to unite and boycot. You can get the sports information you need elsewhere!!!! Something needs to be done!!! Rally on the streets, flood the EEi offices with letters and emails!!! This is our chance to get sports radio back!!

    Posted by Bill February 26, 09 01:31 PM
  1. You could put two monkeys in the chairs on WEEI in the Mornings and they would draw rating. When Dennis and Callahan were off the air the ratings went up!
    I like Glenn....But, the other guys talk all over each other.

    Thumbs Up! Dale and Holly

    Posted by Hoosickkid February 26, 09 01:32 PM
  1. the mike and mike show on espn radio is by far the best sports radio show... they are charming, entertaining, funny, knowledgable, and have great guests... i used to listen to weei all day working at home... i can't listen to it anymore... i even listen to the herd and the tirico and van pelt show now... just so much more believable... good article... of course, the weei guys will just make fun of you because that's all they now how to do...haha

    Posted by kristen February 26, 09 01:33 PM
  1. so true.

    they all honestly stink and do not offer insider opinions which is what i am lookign for. they are random fans like us spitting out their opinions. i would liek some true substance.
    question. what happened to curt shilling on the big show? lasted a day? i thought that listening was good because he knows the real deal and whats going on in the sport. telling me callahan or ordway know that information? doubtful.
    also they relaly to to axe callahan. cant understand why anyone listens to him

    Posted by vedhead February 26, 09 01:33 PM
  1. 1. I don't agree with all of Chad's article
    2. I agree with some of his opinions
    3. WEEI staff needs to be taken down a notch. Arrogance breeds complacency.
    4. I think WEEI can be better and that includes callers and on-air personalities.
    5. Methinks a lot of you commentors dost protest too much.
    6. It's blatantly obvious which commentors (i.e. #58) are WEEI employees....

    Posted by Hoss February 26, 09 01:33 PM
  1. As a former Bostonian, I only get to listen periodically on the internet to some of these shows. Having moved to Florida three years ago, I can not explain to you how much I miss WEEI shows. I listen to sports talk down here and eventually end up turning the station as it is so freekin Redneck. All they can talk about is college ball, Bucs football, and bashing the Boston-NY teams.

    I never realized how good WEEI was until I relocated. Now the top show is a syndicated Jim Rome show out of LA which is the worst I ever heard. I used to change stations all the time in the AM as I could never stand Dennis-Callihan as they were a couple of arrogant SOB's, but compared to what we have in FL, I would welcome them again. WEEI is the tops in my book and you would appreciate them more if you see what the rest of the country has to deal with.

    Posted by Mike in Florida February 26, 09 01:33 PM
  1. Chad,

    You are so Right on Point. I love to listen to good sports talk radio, is so horrible, that I just can't listen to it anymore. Oh how I would love to have a decent local sports station, that doesn't insult your intelligence. Thank goodness for XM Radio.

    Posted by guidad February 26, 09 01:33 PM
  1. Amazing what a sorry wanna be sports blogger does when his job application at a local sports radio station is turned down. I also happen to work at the Globe , but quite honestly have never heard of Chad Finn, dare i say thousands of others that listen to sports yell radio have never heard of him either. Get a life....step off the bundle of unsold Globes and make something useful out of your whiney..pathetic bitchy words, be a man & call the radio hosts you berate here & try it on air with them.....to sum it up...NO BALLS

    Posted by Matt February 26, 09 01:34 PM
  1. Brilliant--very well put. We used to think getting EEI broadcast in Maine would be great, but no fans I talk to listen regularly to the AM or PM shows b/c of the obnoxious hosts. The AM and afternoon shows are wholly unlistenable--D&C rarely talk sports aside from bashing Manny (the uninformed political commentary is absurd), and The Big O (who knows his stuff) is a screaming bully. Dale and Holly are the only sane one's on there. If advertisers had any idea how many halfway reasonable sports fas do not listen to to the station because of these guys, ad rates would plummet. 70% of the station's content is no better than anywhere else in the country which is a disservice to Boston fans--NY fans have it much better with the FAN. Bravo, Chad!

    Posted by BMac February 26, 09 01:34 PM
  1. WEEI is better than WFAN? Really? Ever heard the Schmooze? I'll take him over anyone in the Boston market. And I don't even like the Metropolitans or Knickerbockers (I have no strong feelings for the Icelanders either).

    I have yet to see one good defense of WEEI that doesn't sound like an awful Howie Carr article. Is he still writing the same column 200 times a year, BTW? I figured some of you Chad Finn bashers would know...

    Posted by Jon February 26, 09 01:35 PM
  1. Every other media outlet is 100% on the left, heaven forbid one program is on the right side of things.

    It's one thing to be "on the Right" and hold conservative views, but Callahan's are just un-informed, hate-filled, negativity. I've been a WEEI listener for a few years, and I stopped listening in the AM because he was just spiraling out of control with the paranoid neocon propaganda. ---and whoever said the summer he was out recovering was wonderful, dear God yes. Dennis was actually human sounding when paired with the rotating co-hosts all those weeks. You would think a cancer scare like that would have given the man some life-perspective.

    Gerry do your family and kids a favor and get some therapy. Your anger is going to eat you and your black soul from the inside out.

    Oh, and why does everyone hate Butch?? I love him on the Big Show, and Lou Merloni was the best addition to the show in ages!

    Posted by toots February 26, 09 01:36 PM
  1. Wow couldn't have said it better myself. WEEI is horrible but with no other options to fuel New England's love of sports they get huge ratings. When they gave the big O $1 million a year I almost fell out of my chair. Put anyone in that chair and the ratings might even go up. PLEASE SOMEONE START A RADIO STATION AS SOME COMPETITION.

    Posted by Ryan D February 26, 09 01:37 PM
  1. I have tuned out the D&C nonsense in favor of either podcasts on my mp3 player or Mike & Mike, even Imus (although he is not what he once was). D&C (particularly C!) just drive me nuts - why listen to something that raises the blood pressure when life is too short. And now with the Republicans in full retreat, I think Callahan's head is going to explode on air one of these mornings. Dale & Holly, and the Big Show (without Fred mumbling ALL the time) are hugely entertaining and informative. The Whiner Line is even brilliant at times (we miss you Ghost of Harry Carey!). Maybe it's cause I'm just left the upper end of their deisred demographic, and I even enjoy talking about other professional sports teams and leagues besides the Pats and Red Sox, but I'm not listening as much as I used to.

    Posted by JoeFree February 26, 09 01:37 PM
  1. What's the record for most supporting comments of an editorial?

    Posted by Southie February 26, 09 01:37 PM
  1. I quit WEEI cold turkey last fall. I just couldn't take it anymore, especially Dennis & Callahan. It's "sports radio", guys. I know there are other important things going on in the world, but the amount of time they spent talking politics, especially as their candidate was headed towards a clear defeat, was just too much. Plus, if any of the hosts on the station disagree with a caller's point of view, the caller is the idiot and the host is never wrong. I won't be tuning in again.

    Posted by JC February 26, 09 01:38 PM
  1. hate WEEI - Democrats (except the Democrats on from 10-2)
    like WEEI - Republicans
    The morning show dedicates themselves admitingly to sports and current news and loony left wingers dont like a Republican like Callahan sounding off. Criticizing him for stealing Hannity's material is better than going after the content.
    The globe needs to shake things up since they are losing more and more of their readers. This guy is pissed he wasnt hired by WEEI - guarentee.

    By the by, I'm not a big fan of WEEI because of the 7 minute commerical breaks every 5 minutes. The shows are all ok, all offering something different. Would rather listen to Opie and Anthony but since there gone, I'll just listen to my own music commercial free.

    Enjoy all the new taxes, lefty schmucks!!

    Posted by mike February 26, 09 01:39 PM
  1. Wanna have some fun? Go to WEEI.COM's website and click on the "drawings" done by Larry Johnson.

    Look at Larry's most recent work - now do a google image search.

    The similarities are striking.

    Posted by PhantonPhanPhorever February 26, 09 01:39 PM
  1. D&C is not sports-talk, it's right-wing politics. They are a joke because they want us to take them seriously.

    Ordway, however, does not want us to take him seriously. Big difference.

    Posted by brianr February 26, 09 01:39 PM
  1. #303 - bill. i am on board with you. seriously can we do something that would make a difference? already 300+ posts so the people are looking for more.

    what can we do ?

    Posted by wes c addle February 26, 09 01:39 PM
  1. the morning show and the afternoon show suck, major, awful shows, people should listen to toucher and rich on bcn, at least they do sports and news with a funny twist

    Posted by jm1616 February 26, 09 01:40 PM
  1. I agree, I listen because I like to hear sports talk, and they're it.. Smerles, Callahan, Dennis, DeOssie (when paired with Smerles) Sheppard, Meterparel, Ordway.. they're all pretty horrible.

    Dennis and Callahan are my alarm clock. I know they will say something so ill-logical and offensive to wake me up. I wake up with a smile the days there are fill ins.

    Loved Sean McDonough's show when you could hear it. Felger can be good, but sometimes falls for "look at me, I'm crazy!" statements.. I like Burt, even tho' he's pretty bad, Buckley is fun, but interupts way too much, McAdam is great, Curran iand Parillo are better when away from "the big show", Maxwell has alot of potential, Merloni is feh and Daubach didn't say much. Mazz was good.

    Dale and Holley is great, Dale can be a bit hokey but very listenable. Holley is just a fun guy to listen to.

    Mike Adams is worse than my college radio station was. A) he doesn't know sports B) His sense of humor falls somewhere between "Truely Taseteless Jokes" and the Three Stooges. C) The majority of his callers are drunk and or have suffered traumatic head injuries.

    the "celebrity" callers are just a waste of space. Bill the wrrestingling goon? Dakota? the dude that hates the sox management (apparently for actually winning world series..) please. I'd rather hear some varied opinions then the same tired crew of idiots.

    Posted by Shippy February 26, 09 01:41 PM
  1. uh... Chad Finn, if you're such a brilliant radio guy- why don't you go put a station together? You know... one that can actually transmit for more than 5 minutes before sliding into bankruptcy.

    Posted by Emperor Palpatine February 26, 09 01:41 PM
  1. I love this...thank you for pointing this out Chad.

    Posted by Bryan February 26, 09 01:41 PM
  1. I stopped listening to WEEI several years ag. I got sick of the sophmoric humor, yelling at the callers, each other and the all around idiocy of the shows. Turn to ESPN Radio, 890 on your AM dial. Reception is an issue but I am told they are working on it. The AM drive time is the national show "Mike and Mike in the Morning" but from Noon - 7PM it is all local shows with the Bob Halloran show during the day, the Lew and Mike show inthe afternoons. It is sensible sports talk without the yelling.

    Posted by Rob February 26, 09 01:41 PM
  1. Spot On.

    Posted by JIPPY February 26, 09 01:41 PM
  1. Get a satellite radio and listen to the Maddog Chris Russo in the afternoon. I just got turned on to him recently and he is much, much more enjoyable.

    Posted by Bill February 26, 09 01:42 PM
  1. I love sports, but hate the shouting, the whining, and the Rush Limbaugh wanna-bes.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 01:43 PM
  1. Who is Chad Finn, and why bother to read more than his first few sentences? Felger is one of the smartest people in sports? Say no more, Chad. Say no more. Or is this your essay for an application for a job at 890 or 1510?

    Posted by The Fabulous Sports Babe February 26, 09 01:43 PM
  1. I agree with most of the points raised in the article, and a lot of the comments on this blog. The morning Neanderthals are a disgrace and the rest of the crews are only mildly entertaining, personally I miss Mustard & Johnson. But the bottom line is the "Entercom bottom line". These shows are very successful so clearly the vast majority of listeners getting exactly what they want. Unfortunately the "dumbing down" of this country continues.

    Posted by John from Meffa February 26, 09 01:44 PM
  1. it's supposed to be sports TALK radio, but WEEI engages in sports SHOUT radio. far too often, Ordway is a great debater, i'll give him that. But i'm looking for a discussion on sports topics and i can't get that from EEI because the hosts, mainly Ordway have taken it upon themselves to interrupt or shout down a caller. it's so bad that even EEI has done a spoof about it as a lead in to the show after a commercial break. for an informative sports discussion, i go down the dial to ESPN 890. Felger deserves his own show.

    Posted by Brian - Holbrook February 26, 09 01:44 PM
  1. If they suck so bad then why was Glenn Ordway nominated for a Marconi award? WEEI is not sports, it's entertainment. It's bar room talk. I don't care to learn the intricacies behind the triangle offense rather I want to piss vinegar over the argument of who's better Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

    Those other shows failed because they sucked not because of the frequency. Anyone who gives Dakota his own morning show deserves to go out of business.

    Posted by Ted Sarandis February 26, 09 01:45 PM
  1. The only way to change pitiful WWEI is to stop listenting. When did Steve DeOssie become such a tough guy. We know you Steve, you should kiss the ground everyday. Your still a punk. Get it??

    Posted by DeOssie's Nightmare February 26, 09 01:46 PM
  1. The "Matt" in post #310 is Matt the Urinal Cleaner in the Globe's Morrissey Blvd. offices.

    Caveat lector.

    Posted by DaTroot February 26, 09 01:46 PM
  1. Back to NPR, you elitist puke...

    Posted by heywood jablome February 26, 09 01:46 PM
  1. Chad, I have to agree with you. I am a regular listener of WEEI on my drive to and from work. There are many things that annoy me about the station, but it is the best we have here so I have to deal with it. I listed to NPR during the long commercial breaks.

    Dennis & Callahan talk about politics. I am fine with that, and I believe it helps their ratings. I don't agree with most of what they say, but I understand that they are targeting a certain audience.

    Dale and Holly are enjoyable to listed to. I love when I have to drive to an early afternoon meeting and get to listen to their show.

    The Big Show is really hard to listen to. This is the show that I would easily be willing to trade for any other local sports show. Ordway doesn't add any value to his show. He is obnoxious and I don't think the ratings would be hurt in any way if he were to be replaced. I find it very frustrating when he talks about an issue and makes it clear that he knows less of the facts than I do, and I all I did was read the sports pages during the week. He will say things like "We don't know what Ortiz thinks about Manny being traded..." when he could have read articles on ESPN or the Globe where Ortiz was asked what he thinks about Manny being traded.

    Posted by Tim February 26, 09 01:47 PM
  1. Chad, right on! Thanks for saying what I've been thinking for years. Pretty much agree with most others here, so the only thing I would add - when I listen to a sports station, I want to hear about sports - NOT politics of any stripe or persuasion!

    Unfortunately, for a local sports fix, they're the only game in town when I'm on the road - which is often. Too often for me to be this familiar with these idiots!

    Put Dale and Holley on one of the drive time slots and get rid of that dinosaur Ordway . . . and that other dinosaur, Callahan . . . well, you get the idea . . .

    Posted by Chrismixx February 26, 09 01:47 PM
  1. Wow. To write a screed like this and not mention the long-running feud between the Globe and WEEI is nothing short of dishonest. It reads like Chad Finn is begging for a promotion, or at least hoping not to get laid off.
    While I enjoy some of WEEI's programming and can't stand other programs, I have to say the people who don't like it need to lighten up and take it for what it is first and foremost: a source of entertainment. Ordway has said as much in several interviews. They're entertainers, not journalists.
    Finn lost what was left of his credibility when labeled Michael Felger intelligent. The guy doesn't even sound intelligent in his section of the toy department.
    And, to the arrogant poster Marconi, I understand radio, pal, being producer of #1-rated and award-winning programming. I don't know if The Big Show ought to win awards anytime soon, but I do understand why it's #1. It's fun and entertaining and sharply produced by the guys behind the glass. Ordway does a good job leading the circus. For what it is, it works.

    Posted by rev February 26, 09 01:47 PM
  1. Once again it's the Globe that leads the way in topics that need discussing.
    Not only is "Sports" talk radio so way removed from reality, "talk radio" in general is a vast wasteland, and in my opinion the havoc these "pseudo" reality programs have wreaked, in the name of "truth", on the public discourse, while in reality have a clandestine agenda, is a crime that needs investigating.
    I have a lot of sympathy for "sports" fans these days, myself being one of them.
    It's gotten so any thinking fan, can no longer divorce sports from business, as sports has become big business.
    I think now with the economy tanking, and the price of tickets is beyond the average fans means, fans in general are begining to puke at the kind of money players, "steroided" or not are making

    Posted by shred February 26, 09 01:48 PM
  1. Couldn't possibly agree more with the views expressed in this piece. I haven't put on 850 since I activated my Sirius 3 years ago and I can't imagine ever listening to them again.

    Posted by Jay February 26, 09 01:48 PM
  1. I quit WEEI cold turkey last fall. I just couldn't take it anymore, especially Dennis & Callahan. It's "sports radio", guys. I know there are other important things going on in the world, but the amount of time they spend talking politics, especially as their candidate was headed towards a clear defeat, was just too much. I won't be back

    Posted by JC February 26, 09 01:49 PM
  1. I agree 100% with this column - I've been feeling this way for a long time. As a pretty avid sports fan, I enjoy listening to Dale and Holley because they are the only ones who seem to be able to carry on an intelligent discussion - and for this they get bashed by the morons posing as sports experts on the other shows. I will only listen to EEI during 10-2 -- or when a game is being broadcast. If all of us who agree with this article will stop listening at other times, perhaps the station will make some changes. But I guess there will always be loud-mouthed morons who support others of their kind - and they make the most noise, so they'll be paid attention to.

    Posted by Marlboro momma February 26, 09 01:49 PM
  1. I found Finn's article very interesting. I have been an avid listener for several years and was extremely pleased when EEI started broadcasting on FM here in Maine last fall. Having said that, I am becoming increasingly displeased with the political rantings on the D & C show and Callahan's constant beratings of anyone who disagrees with his extreme political views. I want to listen to sports ! I also agree with the comments that the Big Show becomes irratating when they shout over one another as well as the callers. Dale and Holly seem to be the only sane 4 hours of the day. The commercials are never ending, but are understandable with EEI's success. At times, I get thoroughly disgusted with the programming content and "attitude"of the hotts. Perhaps the programming director will take note of the comments, but with the current ratings, this is probably more wishful thinking than any thing else.

    Posted by Rick in Maine February 26, 09 01:50 PM
  1. Chad - right on. So right on.

    Posted by RSPCB February 26, 09 01:51 PM
  1. And WHY...WHY...WHY is that afternoon so called, "Producer", which is just a psudonymn for "Talk-Show-Receptionist", given a microphone where we are subject to his innate comments about unrelated subjects such as 'being fat or eating too much'. Oooooh, riveting anecdotes to an already annoying interruptus. SHUT HIM UP, TOO !! I worked in talk radio for six years and I was always told that,"A caller is like a song. You should play only the good ones that will enhance your show. As far as the bad callers?....Don't air them!"

    Posted by guymanella February 26, 09 01:52 PM
  1. good topic. but not well written.

    nice try though.

    Posted by chad in southie February 26, 09 01:52 PM
  1. Thanks for writing my column. The broadcasting is idiotic except for Dale and Holly. Once a month, I tune in those crude boors in the morning just for the pleasure of turning them off in ten seconds. In a more poorly educated state, they might get away with being demagogues. The screamers in the afternoon are just noise makers and I worry about a society that spends time listening to them. I have generally turned to ESPN radio when I need a sports fix. Intelligent competition is long overdue. Hope we hear of it soon.

    Posted by Jack February 26, 09 01:52 PM
  1. You gotta love little Chad complaining about D&C's "increasingly snide disregard for those with different circumstances, views..."

    This coming from the Boston Globe Demcorat, a paper that demonizes conservatives and props up liberals on a daily basis.

    The hypocrisy is shameless!

    Posted by swimmerkennedy February 26, 09 01:52 PM
  1. I racked my brain HARD to come up with solid, intelligent, entertaining personalities on WEEI. I came up with 6!
    -Michael Holley
    -Michael Felger
    -John Ryder
    -Mike Mutnansky
    -Steve Buckley
    -Sean McAdam
    Out of the 6, two are writers who make guest appearances and 3 don't even have regular host roles! That station is everything that is wrong with sports media. As for Ryder and Mutnansky, whose main business is radio and not TV or writing like the other 4...I guarantee you that they will be on to bigger and better things within a year or two.....aka XMSirius Radio...hosting a show. Because yes the sad thing is, as bad as WEEI is, most sportsradio stations nationwide are also that bad. Ryder and Mutnansky could defintely be popular, successful, national hosts on XMSirus. Andy Gresh is the nightime guy on the MadDog Sports Channel on Sirius!!! Ryder or Mutt could easily fill that role better. Get some confidence and send out more tapes John Ryder and MuttMan!!!!!

    Posted by Eric February 26, 09 01:52 PM
  1. Which bet would you take?

    The Boston Globe will not print a newspaper in 10 years.

    WEEI will not be broadcasting in 10 years.

    Posted by Rich F. February 26, 09 01:53 PM
  1. As a long time reader, this is the ballsiest post you've ever done, by far. Kudos, Chad, for saying what's been on our minds.

    I always look forward to reading your posts.

    Posted by Matt S February 26, 09 01:53 PM
  1. Maybe the author of this article should try to fill 4 HOURS of radio every day for a year before he starts his critique. It is not as easy as it sounds. Glenn Ordway is a genius in his element. He lets people call in and make their case, shares the mike with other people and adds humor. What's wrong with that? After busting my hump all day at work I look forward to my drive home and listening to the "Whiner Line".
    What WEEI is doing is not splitting the atom or rocket science, it's entertainment. Where is it written that it has to be serious all the time. Sports are an escape, an outlet for people to take their mind of all the negatives in their lives.

    Posted by zippy February 26, 09 01:53 PM
  1. For the most part, this article is spot on. I like Callahan because at least he arrives at a point and is not quick to yell and scream his opinion like Dennis who defines the word arrogance- he's an empty suit. In the mid-morning Dale and Holley could do with being a little less condenscending- they come across as thinking they're the smartest guys in the room- regardless of who's in the room with them. Glen for the most part, keeps the conversation going and his guests involved even though he thinks he's never been wrong in his life. Pete needs to do his homework on sports- why do you think he doesn't have his own show yet?

    Posted by Prince of the City February 26, 09 01:53 PM
  1. Fed up with the nonsense spewed by the Glob. How can you justify a paycheck to Shaughnessy with the nonsense he spews?

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 01:53 PM
  1. I've been emailing EEI these exact sentiments for the past 2 years. I can see many others are of a similar mind. I don't think it makes a difference because WEEI is doing well and has captured a certain segment of listeners who enjoy the absolute base of any subject or situation. At first I thought it was Dennis & Callahan who drew the "shoot the monkey" cartoon in last weeks NY Post. If you listen to them (and I no longer do) you will recognize a motif: Bigotry in Style. The station understands this edge, but knows that it delivers listeners among that base group. Dale & Holley are a JOY. They talk sports, design their conversation to a more well bread listener and contribute positively to the sports chat around New England. Their moms would be proud. The mothers of Messrs. Dennis, Callahan and Ordway would also be proud of their sons because that's the way they raised 'em: Rude, Arrogant, Abrupt and Intolerant. These ladies must be/have been lovely. Now you can say what you want about Ken Krayeske, but at least he had the courage to come on the show and defend his position. Ordway couldn't seem to get himself out of Calhoun's trousers. Here's a guy, like Calhoun, 30 plus years older than Krayeske, trying to make the guy feel small. It's a trait not corrected and permitted only by mothers. So thanks Mrs. Ordway, Dennis and Callahan...your sons grew up to be predictable. Let's leave WEEI to the side. Erudite sports radio in New England is a possibility. But it needs to exist somewhere else. I see the two groups this way: D&C and BigShow hosts and listeners are like the tailgaters at Gillette who always have too much to drink and swear in front of your wife, son or daughter. They have no remorse and think it's OK...Remember, their moms sanctioned it years ago. They are the voyeurs and peeping toms of sports radio...They are the pile-on-ers. The rest are people genuinely interested in ideas, not the belittlement of another: Let's call them Liberals...:). The problem with listening to national shows is that we want...NEED the conversation to be about Boston. When you read Simmons, you love it when he caters to Boston themes. Dan Patrick is a great listen, but he's national. Rome is a condescending bore. Finn is right...With all the writers and electronic people in New England, we deserve a choice. Hey Glen, John and Gerry...you're only the smartest guy in a room filled with mediocrity...Go tell your mom.

    Posted by jkstraw February 26, 09 01:54 PM
  1. Thank you and I couldn't agree more. I used to listen nonstop for many years; but for the past year I can't stand the yelling and screaming. I'll tune in to D&H if I have some time but rarely is my dial tuned to 850 anymore. It's too bad. Hopefully Wolf or someone else at weei will be reading these comments

    Posted by jmh February 26, 09 01:54 PM
  1. Chad,

    You are greatly overestimating the intelligence of the sports radio listener. Listen to the people that call in sometime, its all Massholes and mongoloids.

    Posted by T-bone February 26, 09 01:55 PM
  1. I generally like WEEI because expectations are kept low and I listen to it for specific reasons, like entertainment and up to date sports news. I did appreciate your article because it made me think about how much better it could be when more thought goes into the programing.

    I am generally pretty happy with Dale and Holly. Some of the weekend shows are quite good. Planet Mikey is a bit boring, but it is better than Ted Sarandis and I don't usually listen much at night anyway.

    I find it very difficult to listen to Dennis & Callahan when they are talking about politics and their wacky views in social issues. Their sports talk is tolerable because they tend to get the best guests. I would love to see anything else there - perhaps someone from the other sports stations that you reference.

    I know the Globe has a problem with the Big Show, but I rather like it. I like the idea of guys sitting around a table talking junk about sports and farts and other silly things. It does get very repetitive and I would like to see it become more original. It seems to me that it is kind of a closed club and if you don't get their inside jokes you are left out. That space would be the best for some calculated changes that maintain the "guys guy" atmosphere while stepping up the level of discourse.

    I think the management of WEEI is the source of the problem and not the shows, though. I see them as typical of the conservative corporate media that looks only to narrow ratings goals and are unwilling to take risks and try to create programing that is both profitable and useful. People keep the ratings high because there is little other choice. While WEEI management takes that to mean that they are successful, it really just means that they are losing out on an opportunity to improve on their programing model and attract even more listeners.


    Posted by Jimbo February 26, 09 01:55 PM
  1. I have stopped listening to WEEI. There was no specfic reason I just stopped. I think a lot of people have done the same thing.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 01:56 PM
  1. I enjoy listening to Sports Radio, EEI and do not enjoy reading the Boston Globe anymore. I was long time subscriber (25 years) of your paper but found you're a lot more bias than Sports Radio..

    Posted by duckman February 26, 09 01:56 PM
  1. D&C are a disgrace. Before I stopped listening altogether I was very surprised that Dennis fell in line with Callahan's politics. For a while there were glimmers of dissent but Callahan is such a hardcore wingnut it's a lost cause. I will say that Gerry Callahan is the most savvy sports talker of the lot, it's just that he can't help but push his ideology when it's off sports talk.
    I listen almost exclusively to Lou & Mike on ESPN radio now, they haven't been corrupted by the absolute power.......yet!

    Posted by JMNH February 26, 09 01:56 PM
  1. Chad...You wrote a nice provocative piece in the style of Shaunessy to stir up discsussion and you've certainly accomplished that goal. WEEI has actually come up with a brilliant formula for huge ratings which is to NOT stay focused on sports 100% of the time. The number of completely rabid sports-only fanatics is probably less than half of their audience and by bringing in all of the non-sports topics & nonsense they get a much larger/broader audience, which has proven to be a huge success. Radio listeners want to be entertained and a "strictly sports" format gets dry & boring very quickly (just listen to any nationally syndicated sports radio, it's horrible after 20 minutes). Think about it, your publication The OT is for sports fanatics and I'll bet this week's issue brings your biggest circulation ever because it's cover story focuses on the "entertainment" side of sports, not the stats or hardcore side of sports.

    Posted by Turbo February 26, 09 01:56 PM
  1. WEEI has nothing but faux controversies and arguments. If you want to get some real insight on pro and college sports, watch Kige Ramsey on Youtube Sports. The man simply breaks things down better than any other high profile media type.

    Posted by Marge @ The Penalty Box February 26, 09 01:56 PM
  1. I'm in agreement with the majority of the comments. I would rather listen to sports radio not political commentary, there are other stations for that on the dial. I remember during the ALCS I tuned in to get some insight on the very exciting series with the Rays, but instead all I got was angry pseudo-political rants because the election was nearing its end. I listened longer than I care to admit and never once heard about the game. How does that possibly happen on a sports radio station?

    Posted by Michael February 26, 09 01:57 PM
  1. Outstanding article, Chad! Thanks for writing it - it's as if you took the words right out of my mouth. I listen to WEEI for hours every day but, contrary to what they might think, it's not for the quality of the programming, it's because they hold a virtual monopoly on Boston sports talk which I love. That said, I'm spending more and more time in my truck listening to Sirius/XM sports talk just for my own sanity. I enjoy Dale & Holley, Mut and Bradford and Mikey (to an extent) but the other shows get me primarily because there's nowhere else to go. Thanks for speaking up for us! (Oh, and yeah, they are totally going to bash the he-- out of you from 2-6 tonight...I'm sure that'll be devastating to you!)

    Posted by Bostnbird33 February 26, 09 01:57 PM
  1. Why do people bring up the so called "Globe vs. EEI" dispute? it is a silly argument to make(sounds exactly like what Ordway would do..hmmm) It's not really a dispute when only one side talks about it(WEEI) The Globe has decided not to deal with them(Bravo!!) so its really only a "problem" on EEi's side..

    Posted by Bill February 26, 09 01:58 PM
  1. I can only listen to "Dale & Holly" on WEEI. The 2 of them are very entertaining at a reasonable decibel level. "Dennis & Callahan" have been obnoxious for years. Don't even turn them on. Glen Ordway's show has become the "Boring, boisterous boy's club. I would love it if some station decided to create an "intelligent" sports talk-show format. No yelling & no heavy political statements allowed!

    Posted by Michael February 26, 09 01:58 PM
  1. Maybe the author of this article should try to fill 4 HOURS of radio every day for a year before he starts his critique. It is not as easy as it sounds. Glenn Ordway is a genius in his element. He lets people call in and make their case, shares the mike with other people and adds humor. What's wrong with that? After busting my hump all day at work I look forward to my drive home and listening to the "Whiner Line".
    What WEEI is doing is not splitting the atom or rocket science, it's entertainment. Where is it written that it has to be serious all the time. Sports are an escape, an outlet for people to take their mind of all the negatives in their lives.

    Posted by zippy February 26, 09 01:58 PM
  1. Ok, so one day I'm listening to 'EEI and this guy calls in talking about how the 1990-something Atlanta Falcons are very much like the present day (about two years ago) Patriots. Then the guy starts going through position players saying this one is like that one and so on. The host, I don't remember who it was, is agreeing with the guy. Of course, the host is paid to know these things. I know not if either one of them had so much as a leg to stand on. The point I got out of it is that the only people who have time for this are radio hosts, unemployed or in prison. At the end of the day, it's just sports. Doesn't educate my kids, pick up my trash, or get the fire department to my house if needed. It’s just sports; something Callahan was fond of saying when he worked at the Lowell Sun.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 01:58 PM
  1. Anyone ever do a timing on the commercial breaks? I turned it on once at 5 to listen to and around 5:15 they finally got back from commercial. Then at 5:35 they went to commercial again. There's more commercials then actual show.

    Posted by Jeremy February 26, 09 02:00 PM
  1. I listen to EEI during my long morning commute. At times, D&C can be a bit over the top but I think most people commenting here are coming from a liberal bias. Everyone seems to like Dale and Holley and Felger, mostly liberal opinions (not sure which way Dale goes as I don't listen but know that Holley and Felger are big liberal junkies). Coming from the liberal Globe, I would expect this kind of article. Having said that, we can boil this editorial down to 1 thing for EEI's success: Boston sports!!! We have had success here that is CRAZY!!! That is the reason why I listen. D&C have Tom Brady (Matt Cassell this year) on Patriots Monday. The evening guys have Belichick whick I listen to on-line. Plus not to mention guys like Adam Schefter from the NFL network (a knowledgable guest) as well as a few others. WEEI is lucky to be in such an area. They could have a bunch of screaming apes as hosts and they still would generate high ratings. The off-sports banter can be a bit at times (and depressing when you listen to some of the doom and gloom) and many of the hosts are just down right pompous, but we listen for the actual sports and interviews. They could do a better job at times.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 02:00 PM
  1. If you want your typical left-wing bias, try tuning into every other radio, TV or remaining newspaper outlets in Boston.
    There's no shortage of liberal hate radio out there (Air America!!!!!), so stop with the whining every time that anyone dares to drink Coke instead of the Obama/Frank/Kennedy Kool-Aid.
    That said: If ANY of the hosts on EEI were any good, they'd be on WFAN in New York - case closed.
    "Yankee Talk?" - Mercy, the sick obsession with all things NYY up there is really becoming pathetic; do you think NY fans spend one second thinking about anything involving Boston sports????

    Posted by Jeff Bagwell February 26, 09 02:01 PM
  1. Oh and another thing....Glenn is genuinely a good guy off radio so I mean no offense....but I just love when him and Pete comment on their "sources."

    Glenn and Pete (especially Pete)...who are your sources? I don't want you to name them but seriously, it is soooo easy to tell that you do not have any. Come on now, really. Your "sources" are nothing more than reloading espn.com, cnnsi.com, cbssportsline.com, or Mike Reiss mailbag.

    Posted by Eric February 26, 09 02:03 PM
  1. I still have my car radio tuned to WEEI but more often than not I end up changing the station during both drive time shows. I know it's hard some days to have enough sports content, but the arrogant sarcastic Callahan is too much to take. I love the interviews with athletes and celebrities (i.e. Boomer). The PM drive makes my head hurt most days with all the yelling and screaming. It may be better sports talk than the rest of the country but the value to me has been slipping constantly. If I can't listen to some intelligent discussion of the sports I'll switch over to soft rock to sooth my aching head. I had been considering writing to Weei Management but this column is way better that a single email from me.

    Posted by Another Mikey February 26, 09 02:03 PM
  1. Thanks Chad. Do you know if there is a defense fund for the person from Cambridge who was arrested for making angry calls to D&C. How many innocent sports fans out there have tuned in to hear sports talk only to have their blood boiled off while being subjected to endless neocon talking points? I cannot stomach any of their programs for more than 10 minutes and I purposely avoid giving any of their sponsors a penny.

    Posted by tom watt February 26, 09 02:03 PM
  1. Yes ... I find WEEI incredibly entertaining and informative compared to the Boston Globe Democrat spewing its constant liberal bias. Take a look in the mirror.
    Is that another million dollars lost today, LMAO!

    Posted by Brian February 26, 09 02:03 PM
  1. I second someone else's comment "Thank god someone wrote this. WEEI in mornings and afternoon drive is unlistenable." The right -wing fanatics have taken over sports radio and Chad is CORRECT - there are intelligent people in Boston - too intelligent to have to listen to this unintelligable crap. I don't mind the baseball talk but please leave the politics to the intelligent people of Massachusetts who are CLEARLY liberal (not surprisingly). WEEI represents the lowest common denominator in politics so walk away while you still can- we are begging you.

    Thank you Chad for writing this - Thank you. We need another sports station - Please!

    Posted by pat February 26, 09 02:06 PM
  1. Michael Felger and Ryen Russillo have egos the size of the Soviet Union.

    Posted by dsw34 February 26, 09 02:06 PM
  1. I couldn't agree more!!!!!!!

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 02:06 PM
  1. Yes ... I find WEEI incredibly entertaining and informative compared to the Boston Globe Democrat spewing its constant liberal bias. Take a look in the mirror.
    Is that another million dollars lost today, LMAO!

    Posted by Brian February 26, 09 02:09 PM
  1. Being female and wanting to learn a little more about my favorite teams I used to listen to eei quite a bit. I think they aim the talk at a certain low level of sports understanding so that they hit a male demographic that knows something but not too much about sports. If they get too technical no one will listen. However, I have found that even at my own level of sophistication (which is not terribly high) I have far surpassed the knowledge of the average caller and the talk level of the hosts. The other wierd thing is that you have to wonder about their marketing. Sure a lot of people listen but Countrywide was one of their advertisers along with all those penis enlarging compounds and stuff that I routinely eliminate as spam from my email. I am actually LESS likely to buy anything that I hear advertised on that station.

    Posted by marie February 26, 09 02:09 PM
  1. Dennis and Callahan have as much expertise in the world of civics and politics as my Poli Sci professor in college did in how to break down the Tampa 2. They are clearly out of their intellectual league. It has become unlistenable drivel, and I truly hope EEI management and advertisers are taking note of how poor their programming is in the morning. I certainly did and would rather listen to Toucher and Rich make fart jokes and get my sports news elsewhere.

    Posted by Jon February 26, 09 02:10 PM
  1. All true, and I could not agree more. The morning asses lost me during the year before the election. Racist, jingoist, and informed only by other talk radio asses. Completely unreasonable radio.
    The PM show is all yelling and some right-wing BS.
    Only Dale and Holley are worth listening to, and, as you point out, some weekend hosts are interesting and informed.
    The station has devolved into right-wing sports talk insider jokes and uninformed-listener screaming. The teams win, big sigh. Lose or make a mistake, and it's good for a week of nonsense. And Manny is a dead horse, a hundred times over.

    Posted by Tim February 26, 09 02:11 PM
  1. Enough already with Lou Merloni. He was a good athlete but what made him the expert on ALL Sports. Stick to baseball. Some one should have beamed you when you had your chain in your mouth.

    Posted by Wiggs February 26, 09 02:12 PM
  1. There are a couple of different ways to get some headway on getting these people of the air.
    1. try to get a hold of arbitron, so you can be one of the people who determines ratings
    2. Every time D&C say something that is racist, or could come anywhere close to be considered offensive, everyone needs to call the FCC and make them aware.
    Mind you, I am no fan of the FCC, but in this case, maybe they could work in our favor.

    Posted by Bill February 26, 09 02:12 PM
  1. Typical of some New England fans.. WEEI makes you feel strong and proud, as if some proof of your own self-annointed supreme fandom. You've just read an opinion on bashing of a format and some of the hosts who lead them, and somehow twisted it as some indictment on your own sports validity. IT ALWAYS goes back to New Englanders who have "Napoleonic Syndrome" - without sports, Bostonians would be just another small, big-city. Insignificant and antiquated. Therefore any criticism on sports, those who love sports, and those who air sports is a nuclear attack on the Culture of New England itself!
    The name calling comes pouring in... Its the Globe, its Chad Finn, its Liberals (not sure how Conservatives twist THAT one)!! How dare you say a bad word about OUR boys. They're New Englandahs!!!

    And to be fair, the sports talk in some other markets (Yes, some of us actually have a life and have moved out of the region for other reasons) is lame. More bells and whistles and blind loyalty without logic. We in New England do have intellectual passion that other areas do not. BUT THAT DOESN'T make WEEI's format and hosts right or even proof of its success.

    What it proves it that we have too many people in this region who defend arrogance because they themselves are arrogant. Its more an indictment to your ignorance and naivety, either too scared or too dim-witted to see beyond your own self-created shadow.

    Posted by Matt in Weymouth February 26, 09 02:13 PM
  1. Somebody needs to forward the commentary to Jason Wolfe, this is great stuff, finally the PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!

    Posted by iRich February 26, 09 02:14 PM
  1. I'm wondering if the WEEI defenders here could give us any reason why this column is wrong that makes an ounce of sense?

    Or maybe you could just go on some more misguided liberal bashing.
    This is almost as amusing as the Lakers trolls on the Celtics blog.

    Posted by Jon February 26, 09 02:14 PM
  1. Look at those people defending eei on here saying"you obviously listen" etc.etc. well, they obviously read your articles too!! what dumbassesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

    Posted by josh26th February 26, 09 02:15 PM
  1. Yea WEEI is beat I only listen to from 7am - 9am and 12pm - 3pm than I listen to WTKK.

    Fair and Balanced radio

    Posted by Frank Jr February 26, 09 02:15 PM
  1. I can't believe I read a couple of people in here praising Larry Johnson. He is arguably the worst and most useless personality on WEEI, which is really saying something. He brings nothing - NOTHING - to the table whatsoever. He doesn't appear to know anything at all about anything.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 02:16 PM
  1. The entire list of good WEEI host consists of Rob Bradford, Dale and Holly, Lou Merloni, Sean McAdam and.... that's it.

    Posted by Jay February 26, 09 02:16 PM
  1. I started to listen to sports radio to get away from ranting talking idiots like rush and ingram, and hannity ..
    but over these ten years I find I cannot listen to anyone in eei anymore!

    dale and holley are still classy ..
    The rest are a bunch of hormone raging 12 year olds ... and full of hate too ...especially Dand C!!!! Thanks for the truth being told ....

    Posted by remnant08888 February 26, 09 02:16 PM
  1. All true, and I could not agree more. The morning asses lost me during the year before the election. Racist, jingoist, and informed only by other talk radio asses. Completely unreasonable radio.
    The PM show is all yelling and some right-wing BS.
    Only Dale and Holley are worth listening to, and, as you point out, some weekend hosts are interesting and informed.
    The station has devolved into right-wing sports talk insider jokes and uninformed-listener screaming. The teams win, big sigh. Lose or make a mistake, and it's good for a week of nonsense. And Manny is a dead horse, a hundred times over.

    Posted by Tim February 26, 09 02:16 PM
  1. The D&C show rates in the same category as the barking dogs holiday music.

    Posted by G February 26, 09 02:17 PM
  1. I stopped listening to WEEI shortly after 9/11 when Ted Sarandis suggested all Muslims in the US should be rounded up and put into detention camps. After a few years, I tried listening again just because it's the only option for sports talk radio in Boston. The second go-round didn't last long because I got tired of listening to moronic political rants by clueless idiots when I wanted to listen to sports talk to escape the politics. I've since realized I can go without sports radio if WEEI is my only option. Unless they're broadcasting a game and I'm in my car, I don't bother even checking in to see what's being talked about.

    Posted by bizona February 26, 09 02:17 PM
  1. Gerry Callahan needs to move to WTKK, right wing nut job radio. I stopped listening to WEEI years ago because I never heard sports being discussed in the morning; it was always the same old liberal hating, anti-tax crap. Not that I would want to listen to democrats on the radio. I just wanted sports and couldn't find them talking about it.

    I wrote to the Program Director and he brushed my issue aside, indicating that it was fine for me to no longer listen to WEEI. I hope he soon is reconsidering that as his best course of action, when he's no longer involved in a sports radio station.

    Posted by Paul Longenderfer February 26, 09 02:17 PM
  1. Because the signal is quite strong here on Martha's Vineyard I tune in and test the waters every now and then. As usual, John and Gerry are nearly unbearable to listen too. It's a sports station EEI, a sports station talks sports, not right wing drivel from hosts who belittle any caller with a different viewpoint. It's insulting and is really quite old now. Also, I don't know how many times I have turned the station on and the entire time I am tuned in it is all commercials. 10 minute drive to town, 10 minutes of commercials is BS.

    Dale and Holley - great stuff. They know sports, listen to callers, and discuss things in a sometimes lively manner.

    Big Show - Always amazes me that these guys so often make predictions about something in sports with such conviction and they turn out dead wrong. All the while criticizing those with different viewpoints. Unlike others who have commented on here, I like Sheppard when he doesn't go on his rants against callers. McAdams should have his own show - he's one of the few who provides insight into trade implications/caps etc...

    But - the are on because people listen. Until an alternative which addresses these issues(because EEI does seem to care), which has a strong signal which reaches at least beyond the Zakim, and hopefully to the islands, we are stuck with occasional insights and entertainment on the only game in town.

    Are you listening EEI?

    Dale and Holley - Not a

    Posted by BD February 26, 09 02:18 PM
  1. I've been listening to WEEI for years and I get very tired of D & C and The Big Show. Some of what Finn says is true. Those guys won't take the criticism either, they think they're perfect, but I often switch the channel these days. They don't see the writing on the wall. The best thing to happen (and the worst thing) is the inclusion of Iggy on the D & C show, to have a combative and courageous alternaive position to Gerry and John's uber-conservatism is refreshing.
    And Glen Ordway has really just become and obnoxious interrupting clown. The show has increasingly become less entertaining and stale. Planet Mikey is a little less irritating, but repetitive and less substantial.

    Posted by Scott February 26, 09 02:18 PM
  1. I agree with most of the people. I turn on EEI in the morning for a few seconds just to hear if ANYBODY other than D & C are on. That is a terrible program. Callahan is awful. He needs to be on some other station talking politics and racist themes all day. If I hear Callahan's voice I switch immediately to another station. I'll even listen to Mike and Mike on ESPN radio for some sports over the D&C garbage.
    I like the Big O show, but even then I have to switch them off at times too. And I KNOW I'm getting old when I no longer enjoy the Whiner Line. As soon as I hear some loser singing, SINGING ... I can't switch fast enough.

    Posted by 13lucky February 26, 09 02:18 PM
  1. When you read the venom in the 350 posts prior to this one, is it a surprise that WEEI's personalities succeed in this market. No one at WEEI has regard for anyone, and most of the listeners have no regard for the the "talent" at WEEI.

    A PERFECT MARRIAGE in this perochial and immovable region. How can the city with the best universities, the best medical minds, and the most devout left wing political thinkers remain loyal to the likes of Pete the MEAT, MIKEY, and the very worst JOHN DENNIS? Seriously, JOHN DENNIS. Some of life's best questions never get answered.

    Posted by Ronald F. February 26, 09 02:18 PM
  1. Try mentioning Obama to Callahan in the morning and see where it gets you. Opinions are one thing, but his rants border, and often cross the line of bigotry and almost always are disrespectful. Dale and Holly are the only hosts on that station that are bearable, if not downright entertaining and intelligent. John Dennis acts like a punk. I'd rather hear Don Imus than those two...and I can't stand Imus!!!
    As for Fred bumbling past his mustache...he can't help himself. he also can't help but mention Fred and Steve's Steak house as many times as humanly possible.

    Posted by Pat February 26, 09 02:19 PM
  1. And, whoever said this was right on the money: This column is years overdue.
    When there is no competition, WEEI is what happens.

    Posted by Tim February 26, 09 02:20 PM
  1. iRich, I actually sent Jwolfe an email with this link!! everyone should do it now!!! And just on a sidebar does anyone else think this Matt in Weymouth is an ass****?? just throwing it out there:)

    Posted by Bill February 26, 09 02:21 PM
  1. With the exception of tuning in for an occasional Belichick or Esiason interview, I haven't listened to these imbeciles in years. I listened every day for about 10 years before realizing that most of the discussion isn't really sports talk. I am amazed that these idiots can drum up interest in Manny talk still. At the end of the day, they are successful because apparently some people enjoy this foolishness. For good sports talk, try Mad Dog Radio on Sirius/XM. He talks sports and lines up quality guest after quality guest.

    Posted by MM February 26, 09 02:21 PM
  1. I understand some of the sentiment... but go to any other large metro area and listen to their sports radio shows, it's the same thing!!! Boston isn't any different than NY, LA or Miami. Do we all forget the term fan is short for FANATIC. Ever listen to Mike and the Mad Dog? It's the same thing! I'm in chicago and I get to listen to MIke and Mike and morning bore me to DEATH with the same story being repeated every hour because it's nationally syndicated and I wouldn'r be caught dead listening to Mike North and his wide ranging opinions on everything BUT sports. So I don't have much of a choice... ESPN radio is blah! Local sports radio is where it's at. And even though Ordway and his gang of dopes can get annoying, the weiner whiner line is one of the funniest segments on radio.

    And thanks for leaving out one of the most entertaining sports commentators in Boston, Mike Adams. Mikey I miss you buddy, you're the best!!!

    Posted by Bones February 26, 09 02:23 PM
  1. Right on cue, the blowhards on the Big Show are bashing this piece for "not getting its facts straight" and "not doing research."

    Dale and Holley ignored the piece. Which is precisely what talent does.

    Does the phrase, "doth protest too much" mean anything to you Ordway?

    Posted by Rudy Mass February 26, 09 02:27 PM
  1. I simply cannot express my gratitude to Mr. Finn enough. Truly on point about every beef I have with the station. Dale and Holley do deserve separation from all the other pap on that station. Well done, Mr. Finn; well done! I only hope some muckitty-muck takes note of the opportunity and conceives a competitor.

    Posted by David February 26, 09 02:27 PM
  1. Right on cue, the blowhards on the Big Show are bashing this piece for "not getting its facts straight" and "not doing research."

    Dale and Holley ignored the piece. Which is precisely what talent does.

    Does the phrase, "doth protest too much" mean anything to you Ordway?

    Posted by Rudy Mass February 26, 09 02:27 PM
  1. I listen to a lot of EEI but agree completely that their success is heavily tied to the success of the Boston sports teams. All the hosts need to remember that it's the athletes and the teams who drive the talk, not the hosts. Let them talk only about hockey, lacrosse and soccer for a month, their ratings would plummet.

    btw, Big O is already defending himself on the air. Guess $10 mil isn't enough to make him feel secure.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 02:27 PM
  1. I can only stand to listen to WEEI during a ball game. I'm just not numb or dumb enough to listen to the drivel the call "sports talk" that fills the time in between.

    Posted by Ken February 26, 09 02:28 PM
  1. This is right on! As a rabid Boston Sports Fan, I had been listening to WEEI on the internet during the day, but I found that I could not put up with the angry radical right wing rants of Gerry Callahan in the morning, and the screaming on the Big Show in the afternoon. Then there are the unbelievably long commercial breaks, taking 50% of the air time every hour. Now I have switched to WFAN, and I love Boomer Esiason in the morning. Much less commercials, no radical right wing politics and thoughtful sports commentary.

    Posted by Champskipper February 26, 09 02:29 PM
  1. I'm surprised that Chad Finn is the one to point this out considering that some of his posts and chat seem sophomoric, but this is well-stated and I agree with every one of his observations. The bias and bigotry demonstrated regularly by the hosts at WEEI is simply depressing. It's sad not because I tend to disagree with what is said, but because what is said is often stated with divisive hyperbole and vitriol. More importantly, I rarely listen because so little is ever said that seems either genuinely thoughtful or thought-provoking. Journalism should be provoke thought, even when that thought only directly concerns sports and the culture of sports. Besides, professional sports has become more reflective of the culture of our society than ever before. We deserve better than WEEI is providing.

    Posted by Chris B February 26, 09 02:29 PM
  1. There is some truth to all of your assertions. If you don't like it don't listen. I too get frustrated by the ridiculousness. I just change the station and go back later. To claim D&C are racist is foolish, they make one stupid joke and suddenly they are the most racist people in New England. Callahan gets a bit abrasive at times but he appears to be honest. When these white suburbs will let these black high school kids attend their schools and play on their sports teams and put them on a bus and ship them back to the city at the end of the day, and make their towns unaffordable for them to actually live in, who are the real racists? Also Mikey Adams is fantastic.

    Posted by Mark February 26, 09 02:30 PM
  1. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for articulating what so many of us feel. I agree with every word.

    Posted by Joe in Waltham February 26, 09 02:31 PM
  1. How about letting some Globe guys back on the air to provide balance to the Herald reporters that dominate the station? Afraid?D&C can be great radio when they apply themselves to the SPORTS topics at hand and keep their own political and personal views out of it. Gerry even seemed to mellow out this week while in Florida. I immediately switch them off as soon as the political or 24 talk starts.
    D&H are fine, but seem bland compared to the rest of the lineup.
    The Big Show is hit or miss, depending on the co-hosts. Fred is a complete doofus, and Butch and Burton are total bimbos who never listen to anyone except themselves. They should keep Sean McAdam, Buckley and Lou on all baseball season.

    Posted by Dave from Randolph February 26, 09 02:31 PM
  1. I only listen on my way to work now. I cannot stomach the big show any longer. The fact that pete shephard garnishes a paycheck for doing what he does , I just cannot stomach it any longer. Hopefully their arrogance will hit them where it counts and the ratings will drop.

    Posted by TG February 26, 09 02:31 PM
  1. I like Dale and Holley, and I like Mikey's show at night, but I definitely click over to ESPN Radio to avoid the morning and evening drive time shows on WEEI.

    Posted by greenish February 26, 09 02:32 PM
  1. Like many, I listen from 10-2PM and disregard the rest. I used to listen to the 2-6PM spot, but it gets old quickly. Dale and Holly are a perfect match for radio, two differing opinions and views on just about everything. Great work, the rest, need work!

    Posted by guciboy February 26, 09 02:32 PM
  1. Amen! WEEI is completely inane, excepting Mike Holley. Someone please, please, please do something! Where's George Soros with some money!

    Posted by Samuel Adams February 26, 09 02:32 PM
  1. I wrote to the head of WEEI about two years ago letting him know that he wasn't running a political station and that if the right wing cooks in the morning didn't stop talking about poltiics that the dial would be changed forever. Well, it didn't stop and I haven't looked back. Don't get me wrong, I USED to like WEEI but it really has become such a whine infested man drama. I'll occasionally tune in for a minute or two and then remember why I no longer listen, and it's more than the obvious political bend of the morning personalities.

    Great article, obviously not everyone here is going to agree with you, especially those that vicariously follow Boston sports 12+ hours a day through this station. There are so many entertainment options out there now so you better keep your listeners happy. I may be just one male between the ages of 18 - 55 that left WEEi but I'm sure there are others that feel the same way I do.

    Posted by Jeff February 26, 09 02:33 PM
  1. Fire Dennis & Callahan and give Meter his own show!!!

    Posted by Walter February 26, 09 02:33 PM
  1. Hmm felger couldnt talk his way out of a deaf persons meeting.

    Gee lets see the globe putting down the station that their own editors banned thanks to Mr wonderful, Shaugnessy.
    Heres the plain facts, WEEI is number one by a mile,
    Ted sarandis is as engaging as a dead donkey.
    Chad finn is...wait a sec Chad WHO? SOrry hazel mae has a higher Q rating than this guy.
    Felger and mazzerotti spent how many weeks ranting and raving at weei, on the air about a certain reporters making up stories about the patriots and how we shouldnt blame him, hes such a good guy, and we treat our sports reporters so badly. You know felger has a 60 inch flat scren tv in his office at nesn, which is like his fourth job. What a waste.

    We must have discourse appropriate withthe highly intelligent fanbase, represented by those who have a discerning ear for true articulate discussion based on the ascerbic wit and vigor of the venerated host.

    Great, why dont you put togeher a lacrosse talk radio station, or perhaps polo.
    Dennis and callahan railed againstthe people in the duke fake rape case, and so many called them racists. they oushed and the globe balkd athem, even going so far as certain columnists calling them immoral and male chauvenists(sp) then they were proved right and the globe did nothing, just quietly limped away.
    The big show brings steve nelson, scott zolak, steve deossie and fred smerlas on to give you a true insiders feel for pro football. and the writers hate it because they cant lie and make up stuff. Notice they didnt have anything to say about dale and holley, especially since michael holy is a better wrioter than anyone at the globe. how many books did you write mr finn?
    How many years did mazzerotti sit with johnny most learning the craft from the master , oneof the greatest adio people in history. answer mazzerotti -Zero. Felger-Zero.
    Pete sheppard is a grad of the CSB, mr felger is an english major. hmm i guess learing to write is the same as learning to speak?
    curt schiling and lou merloni took felger to task mny times and felger HATES it.
    Ever wonder why bob ryan isnt sitting next to felger or mazzerotti anymore?
    Gee i wonder why.
    oh and the politics you complain about? go listen to NPR like you should.
    politics goes hand in hand with sports, , especialy when its gvernment steroid incvvestighations, or senator spector in football etc.
    better yet go back to boringville.
    Intelligent talk - well the 3rd and long numbers in relation to night games on sundays vs left handded quarterbacks is equal to the hypotneuse of the square!
    yeah, gimme more of that.
    i wonder why the red sox celtics and bruins and pats all have players and managers and coaches all on weei? must be because it sucks so bad.
    you ever hear theo or tito on felgers show? NOPE.
    get a grip and move to new york.

    Posted by Steveh February 26, 09 02:34 PM
  1. Big O is calling out Finn, noting that the "audience likes what we are doing."

    Obviously, the fat b*****d isn't reading the comments from readership.

    Ah, Big O, trust me. We don't like what you're doing. I speak for the majority.

    Posted by Rudy Mass February 26, 09 02:34 PM
  1. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE! CANNOT LISTEN ANYMORE TOTAL GARBAGE.

    THE CALLS THEY TAKE ARE IDIOTS.

    Posted by MattD February 26, 09 02:35 PM
  1. I agree with much of what Finn Says. I can hardly tolerate Callahan's right wing, and sometimes ridiculous, political comments, so I do not listen to Dennis and Callahan. I thoroughly enjoy Dale and Holley. I listen to the afternoon show, and somewhat enjoy it, but I hate it when Pete acts like a 2 year old and throws a tantrum when a caller disagrees with him. And, although it appears many listeners disagree, I love Michael Felger and truely enjoy his commentary.

    Posted by Hawaii2009 February 26, 09 02:36 PM
  1. Jon this column is wrong because EEI is the #1 rated sports station in the country. Sounds like this guy has an ax to grind. Felger and Rusillo??? If they were any good then they would still be there. There is no competition because WEEI has blown them all away. 1510 was there - nobody listened(at least not enough to attract advertising) Do people want just scores?? WEEI is informative and entertaining.. The Globe has had a problem with WEEI for years.. The Globe cannot write a biased piece. In 1-2 years I am sure that EEI will be going strong and the Globe will be gone given the current circulation..

    Posted by Ryan P. February 26, 09 02:36 PM
  1. my god, i haven't listened to that piece of crap station in 5 years! Some things never change!

    Posted by roxchew-1 February 26, 09 02:36 PM
  1. This column is written by someone who does not understand radio broadcasting.
    By definiton broadcasting IS aiming towards to lowest common demoninator. Bottom line is: It's about the ratings and how much product you can move for your sponsors. That's what commercial radio and TV is all about. WEEI is wildly successful on both counts, and it's ratings far exceeds it's sportradio peers in just about every market in the country. If it wasn't hugely entertaining and hitting a major collective nerve in the Boston market, the ratings would be nowhere near what they are. As a former longtime radio producer (who coincidentally lost his job at newsradio WEEI in the change to their current sports format) I guarantee you
    that if they made the changes suggested in this column, their ratings would drop like a lead balloon.

    Posted by marc l February 26, 09 02:36 PM
  1. As a Bruins fan, and a fan of all sports as well, I've stopped listening to D&C not because of their politics but because of their blantant disregard for the sport of hockey.

    Posted by RyanPatrick February 26, 09 02:37 PM
  1. I currently live in CT (listening online and the when I'm back in MA) - My two cents:
    1. D&C is rough to listen to. They are arrogant, condescending, and totally dismissive of their guests. They spend more time throwing out insults and demeaning everyone who doesn't agree with them than they do actually providing a reasoned arguement for their point. And if WEEI runs one more promo for D&C featuring one of Dennis's endlessly rambling pratically incoherent questions (like the golf analogy he gave to Doc Rivers) I am going to lose my mind.

    Boomer and Carton on the fan is NY Sports but still worth listening too over D&C (and they are Mets not Yankee fans, which is a plus)
    2. Dale and Holly is the reason I listen to this station at work. Don't always agree with them but at least they are more focused on making their point and not making an arguement. i don't mind the sound effects, whatever - its not that distracting.

    3. Big Show - I can take it or leave it. When they actually discuss sports with the knowledgable co-hosts (not the comic sidekicks) I find it entertaining and even informative. When Big O tries to dominate the conversation and is overbearing or they go off on a political rant it's time to turn down the volume. I don't mind the interruptions when everyone talks over each other when it's a sports discussion but when they go off on a tangent ....................
    ..
    Even when the interruptions and yelling is at it's worse EEI is MUCH better the listening to Mike Francesca on the FAN in New York pontificate about the way things are in sports - no discussion, not conversation, just this is the way it is. Francesca often understand that his opinions do not make reality or facts - he rarely says - I belive, I think, my opinion is, he states everything as fact. Callers who give a contradictory opinion are told dismissively "you don't know that, you can't say that".

    Posted by TJS February 26, 09 02:37 PM
  1. I enjoy the Big Show, but the screaming and talking over eachother does getting annoying. Never listen in the morning because they only talk politics despite the fact that it is a sports radio station. Wish EEI would stop having Zolak on the show. He's no Tom Brady and he can't seem to get over that fact that his football days are over, if ever really had any for that matter.

    Posted by anon February 26, 09 02:37 PM
  1. nobody forces you to listen - if you don't like it turn it off - i happen to enjoy this station tremendously - it gets me through the day. the only time of the day that i actually smile is the whiner line. The Boston Globe needs to fix itself ands stop wasting time condemning other people. Your track record is not very good. I predict that you will go out of business before weei goes off the air!!!

    Posted by mcdonout February 26, 09 02:38 PM
  1. Go to any other market in the country and you will hear absolute junk. I have lived in LA, San Diego, Arizona and Maine, every single time I craved coming back home to Glenn and The Big Show. I am an attorney and work in an office with another pretty bright attorney who have WEEI on all day long. When I was in college, not down in the dregs of society, college, we would all have our radio stations tuned to 850 Am all day long.
    I'm sorry, but this article is poorly written and ignores the economics of the situation. The people decide, and they have spoken. 850: The Greatest.

    Posted by Robert J. LeGrow. February 26, 09 02:38 PM
  1. I used to listen to WEEI all day. In the last 2 years I have gone totally to podcasts. I put the iPod on the car speakers or I have a protable speaker for the house. I havent turned on regular radio in 24 months and I get all the show I want from ESPN for free...WITH NO COMMERCIALS. I download Bill Simmons, Dave Dameshek, Adam Carolla, Barry Melrose and Umass Athletics podcasts and I dont need WEEI anymore. Over the air radio is dying and the podcast is the future.

    Posted by Scott Barnstable February 26, 09 02:39 PM
  1. I agree that D&C is totally annoying. The politics have to stop. Give me my friggin sports news, dammit! The Big Show needs to tone it down...a bunch of yahoos yelling over eachother is not a good radio show make.

    As for Chad Finn? Is it me, or does it seem like this clown is just looking for attention? A couple weeks ago, he's talking about bringing Manny back (obviously an attention cry), and now this? Chad, here's a bit of advice: Try writing some quality columns for a quality newspaper and perhaps you'll get the attention you clearly so desperately need.

    Posted by MikeO February 26, 09 02:39 PM
  1. I can't wait until I can listen to The Chad Finn show! I can tune in to "intellectual " sports radio while I drink my Mocha-chino double half-caf de-caf Grande while wearing my beret and sitting at a Starbucks with my iMac. By the way Chad, what time/station is your show on? I haven't been able to find it?

    Same old story...those that can, do; those that can't, cry and whine about it.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 02:39 PM
  1. WEEI is entertainment. That's all. every so often there are humorous (when Mike Adams is on) and/or intelligent insights about sports(usually when Felger is on) , but for the most part it is the wasteland of disenfranchised white males from age 20-50 who think things like affirmative action have ruined their chance in life at a 'fair shake.' They absolutely play to the lowest-common-denominator, but so does every other commerical radio outlet aiming to capture that demographic.


    Posted by Dennis February 26, 09 02:39 PM
  1. D&C insult their listeners with their political views. I have no problem that they are total Republican whatevers, but don't insult my beliefs. We should listen to each others views but D&C carry it to a disgusting level. I turn it off in the morning. I can't take political views from sports people like I would never listen to Sox talk with George Stephanopoulos. Sports Radio should be about sports - imagine that? D&H are fine and even the Big Show has it's funny and informative moments. But don't, I say DON'T, insult me D&C. You should be fined and fired.
    Let's all call the sponsers and complain - maybe something will be done then.

    Posted by GRT February 26, 09 02:39 PM
  1. D&C is horrible, the Big Show is horrible. Dale and Holley are good. I actually go out of my way to listen to them, and Planet Mikey is good for a chuckle, too, at times.

    But the rest of the station is terrible, really. I'm literally ashamed if I turn the radio on and someone else is in the car and I've left it there after a game or something. It's that bad.

    Posted by 10-2 Listener February 26, 09 02:40 PM
  1. Chad makes some good points. The funny thing is they are the same reasons I never read his articals.

    Posted by wolsen February 26, 09 02:40 PM
  1. This was a great artical. I am sick of listening to right wing, Republican, sports talk radio! I listen to hear sports in the mourning, not anti- union, anti- teacher, anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, anti-anyone with a different view. Jerry Callahan needs to be off the radio. I want to hear sports, not venom!

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 02:43 PM
  1. Mikey Adams has a great show. Otherwise, unless there is some big breaking local sports story going on, the rest of it I will skip for satellite radio or my iPod.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 02:43 PM
  1. They don't start to cover sports until after 10am...mostly policital commentary between 6-10am. Another thing that sickens me...they often don't cover the biggest stories in sports if it not Boston-centric. For example, it was Super Bowl week, and all they were talking about was the Red Sox pitching rotation. I know its a Boston station...but I would rather it be a sports station now.

    I finally made the leap to Sirius about a year ago. I listen mostly to ESPN Radio on Channel 120 and NFL Radio....SO much better. No local bias, always cover the most important national stories...and best of all THEY DO NOT TAKE CALLS FROM LISTENERS. If WEEI is ever going to be recognized as legit, eliminating callers from listeners is a GREAT first step.

    Posted by CHOMP! February 26, 09 02:43 PM
  1. Railing about EEI not being legit sports talk is like complaining that WWE referees are inept. The point of the programming is not really about sports, it just uses sports as a backdrop for some combination of soap opera drama and locker room humor. Factor in the glory hounding from callers who are willing to wait on hold for hours just to call out each others or who are happy to get 10 seconds of free air time to ply their schtick and you end up with some bizarro combination of community auditions and the freak show. I think the posters to this board are among a distint minority who would really choose true sports talk (as the evidence suggests count the # of folks citing 790 or 1510 vs their non-existent ratings). Many more people dont want to talk sports, they want to listen to a bar fight.

    Posted by Tiki February 26, 09 02:44 PM
  1. Ah crap. That mustachioed little bowling ball is dipping into his bag of BS, spinning a tale of trial and tribulation for the past 14 years in which he sat on his rear end and yelled at anyone within an earshot.

    Notice how Flubber didn't mention the poll results? Then he, goes on to say that "most people" disagree with the sentiment of this piece.

    Posted by hateburger February 26, 09 02:44 PM
  1. !!!!!!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 02:44 PM
  1. THEN WHY ARE YOU LISTENING MORON???

    ugh.

    Posted by json February 26, 09 02:45 PM
  1. D&H are great, love their show. D&C...not so much. They act like the Boston sports world revolves around them, have they ever even played a sport?? I've never heard 2 guys refuse to admit when they are wrong. And please stop talking about Manny as if he just killed your mother. The Red Sox would never have won those 2 World Series w/o him. Yes, Manny is a jerk, but stop with the crucifixtion. John Dennis so arrogant it kills me. Listening to him talk to the athletes and celebrities is almost comedic, he thinks he's in there inner circle. Lose those 2 and keep D&H.

    Posted by Kevin S. February 26, 09 02:45 PM
  1. Weei is much more entertaining than anything else on the radio. Where else do you get Boston sport figures doing weekly interviews. Chad no one is changing the dial for alot of reasons you dont get. Why insult people ? Go do your research!

    Posted by Drew February 26, 09 02:45 PM
  1. anybody know what the co-hosts make? the baseball co-hosts (mcadam, buckley) are knowledgeable, but clearly hate Glenn and Pete who knows absolutely nothing about sports. They must do it for the money

    Posted by TG February 26, 09 02:45 PM
  1. This column is overdue. Boston is a sports town and sports radio will thrive good, bad or indifferent. We need radio alternatives that are at least one step above the gutter where WEEI lives. I stopped listening at least 3 years ago mainly because Callahan eliminated sports from the morning show and highlighted his cowardly political bravado. I'm not sure being able to stammer over callers and hit the "hang-up" button if a caller started to make sense constitutes talent nevermind sports radio entertainment. Who is listening to that trash?

    Posted by JJ February 26, 09 02:46 PM
  1. Can I have my job back?
    - Ted Sarandis

    Posted by Fellowship of The Miserable February 26, 09 02:46 PM
  1. 100% agree. I used to be a diehard listener until they finally beat me into submission with incoherent, bias arguements. There is no way the Big Show understands the irony of the Whiner Line, which is the only thing I'll listen to on EEI. You're a sports talk station so why do you have news headlines (read with a HUGE slant) during the peak AM drive time.

    Get a Sirius - listen for a week - you'll never go back. Mike & Mike on ESPN are leagues better and the NFL Network is tremendous.

    Posted by Domenic February 26, 09 02:46 PM
  1. LOL! Chad Fin discredits himself when he said he likes listening to Felger! Not only that, he makes fun of politics talk that Callahan does, but everytime Felger is on ALL I HEAR IS POLITICS!

    This article reaks of a pot headed Democrat that got blown up trying to call WEEI and tell them that Manny was run out of town. Plus working at the Globe does nullify you of having a biased opinion. It is unfortunate that the only Sports that I can read on the Globe is written By Mike Reiss.

    Posted by M1020US February 26, 09 02:46 PM
  1. I'm sure that most people have given up on reading these comments after the first 200 or so but I must add my name to the list of people who listens (reluctantly) to EEI because they are the only game in town.
    Most of the callers are ridiculed BEFORE they have been given the chance to make a point or ask a question. I've heard several callers do an excellent job of clearly making a point that was then completely misunderstood by the hosts (who were half-listening at best). Then the caller gets laughed at for being a moron while then the hosts proceed to restate THE SAME opinion as being the obvious alternative.

    Posted by teacherman February 26, 09 02:47 PM
  1. Hit the mark. I do listen to WEEI and do like Dennis and Callahan best. Dale and Holley are fairly good. But the Big O show is the worst. Throw out Big O and bring back Eddie. Now I will admit that the interviews are great. Belichek during the football season, Curt was great, love Boomer and the NFL network guy. Most of the regular interview people are quite interesting.

    But I totally agree with your remarks about Felger. He's the biggest buffoon on radio or TV. Can't stand him. He always seems to insigating something, making mountains out of ant hills.

    Posted by Don Barrucci February 26, 09 02:47 PM
  1. MIchale Holley and Michael Smith. Best idea I've read on this whole page. I remember listening to them together a few years ago, and they were FANTASTIC.

    Posted by Sophia February 26, 09 02:47 PM
  1. I listen to both NY and Boston Sports radio. I was born and raised in Boston and have lived in NY since 1989. The thing that annoys me is when callers are disrespected and belittled by hosts when they do not agree with the hosts opinion. I recently began my own on show on WGBB. It’s on a couple of times a month and is called "The Starting NYNE". We talk NY and New England sports. Check us out at www.sportsradiony.com.Our next show is March 8 at 9pm. You can also download previous show at the same website.Call us up and take us on- I’m the good guy I root for all the New England teams

    Posted by Steve Rogan February 26, 09 02:48 PM
  1. Chad,

    Go wash more lettuce before the supper rush, you turd!

    Posted by Pete S. February 26, 09 02:49 PM
  1. BRAVO!

    I'm glad someone got around to saying this. I was a loyal listener to WEEI since it's inception. I stopped listening to this station a couple of years ago because of the increase of one-sided cro-magnon infused political talk that only served to aggravate me. I never understood a programing strategy that could potentially alienate 50% of your prime demographic. Actually in Massachusetts it would be probably more like 60%.

    (I apoligize to any perceived insult to cro-magnon men.)

    Posted by StopListening February 26, 09 02:49 PM
  1. I really can't stand John Dennis talk about golf. I like Freddy quite a bit. Even though I am more on the liberal/centerist scale, I don't really mind D&C getting too political. They are almost funny... almost...
    I really prefer my mp3 player or WBZ anyways...

    Posted by HubbDave February 26, 09 02:50 PM
  1. Rudy Mass, you speak for Rudy Mass only. You're not smart enough to speak for me.

    Posted by Razorback22 February 26, 09 02:50 PM
  1. Could not agree more. WBZ should bring back Calling All Sports.

    Posted by LED February 26, 09 02:51 PM
  1. Good topic. D&C play the Elitist D & Angry, white male C roles well. JMP is just a buffoon looking to get his big break. When real sports talk happens I enjoy listening, even when they are creating their own controversy to banter about. When Jerry starts his rants, I push my Sirius button.

    Posted by Bill in Natick February 26, 09 02:51 PM
  1. To the commenters who ask why we listen... I must add my name to the list of people who listens (reluctantly) to EEI because they are the only game in town. Sad but true.
    Most of the callers are ridiculed BEFORE they have been given the chance to make a point or ask a question. I've heard several callers do an excellent job of clearly making a point that was then completely misunderstood by the hosts (who were half-listening at best). Then the caller gets laughed at for being a moron while then the hosts proceed to restate THE SAME opinion as being the obvious alternative.

    Posted by teacherman February 26, 09 02:52 PM
  1. WEEI - especially the BIG SHOW, is "Blowhardism" at it's finest. Maybe they'll get the broadcast rights to the Bruins & make for even less time to listen to all their hot air.

    Posted by big eyebrowski February 26, 09 02:52 PM
  1. If you folks lived in the Tampa Bay area, you would be so grateful for the Big Show with the Big O. In the early afternoon we get Jim Rome on one station and a bunch of sophomoric characters on the other. The guy on the sports animal here is about as entertaining as a toothache and a bully to boot.

    Count your blessings.

    Posted by Russ in New Port Richey, FL February 26, 09 02:53 PM
  1. "Why do people bring up the so called "Globe vs. EEI" dispute? ... It's not really a dispute when only one side talks about it(WEEI) The Globe has decided not to deal with them(Bravo!!) so its really only a "problem" on EEi's side.."
    Posted by Bill February 26, 09 01:58 PM
    Hey nitwit, you just posted to an article that broaches a continuation of the dispute and is promoted on the top of the front page of the Globe's website. Bravo! You are so smart.

    Posted by LiberalsKeepStealingMyMoney February 26, 09 02:53 PM
  1. I think you are just jealous.
    I am a 27 year old female and I love The Big Show! It is smart, interesting, informative and funny. Just because it isn’t run the way you would run it doesn’t mean it is bad. If you hate if so much, then just shut your radio off.
    Get a clue Chad.

    Posted by Christine February 26, 09 02:53 PM
  1. Rudy Mass, you speak for Rudy Mass only. You're not smart enough to speak for me.

    Posted by Razorback22 February 26, 09 02:53 PM
  1. The Big Show Rules - I have been a faithful listener for years!
    Thank you for keeping me up to date on my sports and entertained!

    Posted by Suztang February 26, 09 02:54 PM
  1. Gutsy column Chad... I'm sure when I get in my car in a few minutes, I will hear the Big O bloviating about you...

    I too, hate the politics and what I feel is a great deal of hidden racism. I also hate the fact that the Big Show plays to the lowest common denominator and the "manly men" of the region. And I despise the sucking up to any pathetic "celebrity" that calls into the show. That was a great point and particularly accurate.

    But let's face facts: We have ourselves to blame. I have a Masters Degree, I have seen a movie other than Braveheart, and I have even eaten at a restaurant other than a steakhouse. But everyday I leave work and get into my car, I immediately turn on The Big Show. I wish I could turn it off and I wish there were an alternative. But until then, The Big O and his show is like crack to me and so we only have ourselves to blame. If we hated it so much, we would do more.

    Posted by Gerard from Somerville February 26, 09 02:54 PM
  1. Dale and Holley is the best show they have. Mikey Adams is a good listen because it's night time fun.

    But Dennis and Callahan and the Big Show are near un-listenable. D&C is such a political show now that you can hardly tell its a sports show, never mind that every time Callahan opens his fat mouth he proves what an idiot he is.

    And the Big Show is coasting on its rep. 8 minutes of talk (if you can call it that) followed by 15 minutes of ads. What a great time....

    Posted by Dave February 26, 09 02:54 PM
  1. Article is spot on ... I haven't listened in almost 2 years. When I did listen I would love it when Ordway was on vacation. I will never understand why they pay him so much.

    Reminds me of the Seinfled when they pitch their show idea to NBC ... What's it about? Nothing? Why will people watch it? Because it is on TV. Same thing here. People listen because its got the strongest signal and not many options, people hope to get some info no matter how awful it is at times.

    I

    Posted by Brian - Windham NH February 26, 09 02:55 PM
  1. I quit listening to EEI after we lost the super bowl. I just didn't want to hear all the negativity. I have never gone back. Yeah, rarely, I will check in on Dale and Holley, but that is if I forget my ipod. You know what? I have become happier! I listen to music now, and not loudmouth jerks who don't know sports anymore than the rest of us. Yelling matches and arrogance are not what I want to hear coming out of my speakers. How the hell does Glen Ordway have a job? Seriously? He has nothing to offer. Beside Dale, Holley, and Mike Adams, they are all a bunch of LOSERS.

    Posted by DAN W. February 26, 09 02:55 PM
  1. I have worked a job where i drive around a lot as part of my job. For two years I always listened to WEEI, the best show is easily Dale and Holey. The evening drive show is just about a complete waste of time, whether it be Pete or the Big O its pretty much constant yelling with the debate about issues only being between the actualy hosts themselves and never the callers, unless its one of their stupid regulars that they think is funny ( like god-forsaken Frank from Glouster). As for the morning drive show and all the political talk, as much as I am liberal and disagree most of the time that they talk politics, they easily do the best interviews. I recieved XM for christmas last year and have been happy to listen to lots of music or O&A instead of listening to WEEi. The only time I will dare switch back to WEEI is in the during the time slot when Dale and Holey are on. Thanks for writing this column

    Posted by Nick February 26, 09 02:56 PM
  1. Do yourself a favor and turn the channel to NPR. Or better yet do what I started doing about 3 years ago...head to the library and get a book on CD. At least the hour a day I used to waste listening to commercials and right-wing propoganda on WEEI is now spent on something valuable.

    WEEI is the bastion of the Boston homer meathead. If I were them I wouldn't change a thing about their schtick (sorry, that's what it is people). They make gobs of money pandering to the lowest common denominator. But you know what? There is actually room on the dial for many more stations. Just turn the channel. Trust me, you'll thank yourself later.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 02:56 PM
  1. Thank god someone had the balls to point out the emperor has no clothes.

    BTW -- Having 7 morons in the booth at once doesn't equal 2 intelligent people having a good debate its just NOISE.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 02:56 PM
  1. get serious you idiots that like that station, or are you morons also? it is pure junk. deossie is a dope and he is ten times smarter than smerlass! ordway is the biggest bufoon of all. i can't believe he can even fit his fat arse in a chair! wow, what garbage!

    Posted by hate eei February 26, 09 02:56 PM
  1. I bet WEEI with the format they have (which is wonderful and entertaining) is around long after the dead tree Globe is in the compost heap of history. Chad will be shopping his useless J-school paper around while asking "Paper or plastic?"

    Maybe Obama will bail him out?

    Posted by c. coon February 26, 09 02:56 PM
  1. Chad. Finn. Is. A. God.

    Posted by Marc February 26, 09 02:57 PM
  1. I'm one more guy who USED to like Dennis and Callahan in the AM - even though I disagreed with the politics, it was at least entertaining and halfway about sports. Now that D&C have a democratic administration to target, it's unlistenable. Great column, and congrats on the guts it took to write it and publish it.

    Posted by Patio Guy February 26, 09 02:57 PM
  1. I agree with some of the comments but do find the afternoon show more entertaining than troubling. The Monday's with Coach Bill are excellent, show his knowledge and humanize him. As far as D & C, I never listen until after 8 AM when the grinding of teeth is over. Dale and Holley are excellent and basically low key and do discuss all sports. You certainly got the content. Also Ordway and crew discussed the article is realitively rational manner.

    Posted by Hughgn February 26, 09 02:57 PM
  1. Then do not listen to the programs. Sounds like Chad did not get a job at WEEI. Now he is sad.

    Posted by Steven February 26, 09 02:58 PM
  1. Chad!! Chad!!! Chad!!

    I am going to start calling you the puppet master!!

    HAAHAHAHAHAHa

    Posted by Bill February 26, 09 02:58 PM
  1. The morning show is only hate and bile, while the evening drive is drivel except for the whiner line. And those endless commercial breaks!

    Like others, I wrote to complain about their extreme politics, and stopped listening soon after.

    Posted by Josh February 26, 09 02:58 PM
  1. To the commenters who ask why we listen... I must add my name to the list of people who listens (reluctantly) to EEI because they are the only game in town. Sad but true.
    Most of the callers are ridiculed BEFORE they have been given the chance to make a point or ask a question. I've heard several callers do an excellent job of clearly making a point that was then completely misunderstood by the hosts (who were half-listening at best). Then the caller gets laughed at for being a moron while then the hosts proceed to restate THE SAME opinion as being the obvious alternative.

    Posted by teacherman February 26, 09 02:58 PM
  1. Chad forgot to mention the 2,000 references to the free food that hosts get or the awful hotels that hosts get put up in while traveling to do a show. No one cares that Sheppard is burying a hoagie down his throat while staying in a 'roach trap hotel in New Orleans.

    Posted by Sack Lodge February 26, 09 02:59 PM
  1. I've listened to WEEI for years. The Globe should grow up and let their writers go back on their shows. Globe always hates on EEI so this column does not shock me. Chad Finn is simply writing what the Globe wants him to. Don't take it out on him too bad.

    Posted by Tony February 26, 09 02:59 PM
  1. Wow I'm writing this comment after 467 comments before me! Looks like a lot of people listen to WEEI!! I've seen articles on the gay ;marriage, abortion and the election get less comments. I guess WEEI knows what they're doing! LOL If I don't like a show on sports radio, and sometimes I don't, I change the channel or plug my iPod in so I can listen to music.

    Posted by Steve February 26, 09 02:59 PM
  1. Chad.. Get a life.. You have not idea what you are talking about.. WEEI IS THE BEST...You should give up writing about sports and start writing about travel or something becuase you need to get a clue!

    Posted by Dave February 26, 09 02:59 PM
  1. cant stand Big O. Pete is a good host once Ordway is on one of his many vacations. Only reason I listen on the drive home is for the whinner line. Love Dale and Holley, never listen to D and C, I switch over to Hillman on WAAF

    Posted by Matt February 26, 09 03:00 PM
  1. This article is a poorly written piece which leaves out a lot of facts. The station clearly has a large listening audience, and it is as large as they claim. Talk to any local fan and they listen to WEEI. Do you know how many local fans there are? A radio station is supposed to entertain it's listener. I would say that they do a great job of that. The Big Show is a group of arrogant men who talk about whatever they want, but it is by no means terrible or horrible. In fact, it has won multiple awards.In general, EEI is an interesting station with crazy characters. But it is entertaining and that is all you can ask for. It has never claimed to be WBZ or NPR for that matter. But it is fun to listen to. Mr. Finn, I respectfully disagree.

    Posted by Mike February 26, 09 03:00 PM
  1. asking globe readers if they like eei is like asking vegetarians if they like cheeseburgers. it's entertainment. when they talk about the show 24, which i don't watch, i change the station.

    Posted by s williams February 26, 09 03:01 PM
  1. Even when I get back east, I don't waste time listening to 'EEI. Living here in Las Vegas, we have three sports talk stations. All of them are far superior to WEEI, especially our ESPN radio affiliate.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 03:02 PM
  1. WEEI ROCKS!

    Posted by cindy February 26, 09 03:02 PM
  1. Julie Kahn is just like one of the guys...literally.

    Posted by dick simmons February 26, 09 03:03 PM
  1. Who are you again? It is interesting to note that your "newspaper" forbids its writers from appearing on WEEI. It is all part of the Globe mantra of not listening to differing viewpoints

    All I can say is if you don't like change the channel. Btw, this is the first time I looked at the Globe. The Globe is a disgrace to newspapers everywhere. It caters to special interests and suppress free speech. Thank god the circulation is down!!

    Posted by tom February 26, 09 03:03 PM
  1. HAHAHAHA, why dont you haters go listen to 890 or 1510? Weei has the best ratings for a reason, the show is compelling to listen to. Finn, you sound so bitter... Did Ordway or Shepherd disrespect you? It sounds personal, and by the way, before you criticize me and call me the lowest common denominator for listening to WEEI, write a decent and informed article. You are a hack. I'd rather read a novel by Jemele Hill than read another one of your freaking articles. you put the suck in suck.

    Posted by Jeremy February 26, 09 03:03 PM
  1. I think eei is great. Sure there isa lot of yelling sometimes but for the most part it is very entertaining. The people who dislike the show disagree with the political view of the morning show. Dale and Holly are good but kind of boring since Holly does all the talking. The big show is entertaining . The thing is is that they are all different yet informative as well. Stop being a snob.

    Posted by kay February 26, 09 03:03 PM
  1. Dennis and Callahan are horrible ,plain flat out awful. If I wanted Right wing politics I would listen to 680.

    Dale and Holley have an amazing show. Very opinionated, well spoken and entertaining.

    Lou Merloni makes the Big Show great...but only when he's on.

    Mikey is good for a laugh just WAY too much Manny bashing.

    Posted by William February 26, 09 03:03 PM
  1. Let it Go Chad

    Posted by John langdon February 26, 09 03:03 PM
  1. Of course WEEI is unlistenable to all those Obamaphile PC yes-we -can Boston Globe readers. That's why it's so good !

    Posted by IHeartG-Warming February 26, 09 03:03 PM
  1. Who is this Finn guy anyway? I'm assuming he's a younger guy, because he needs to study up on his radio history, particularly that 1510 used to be the flagship station in Boston and featured several of the guys he's criticizing. Who does he think he is? He says WEEI "claims" to be the highest-rated sports radio station, and that's because they are! There's no bold claim being made here, it's a fact. Granted they do deserve their fair share of criticism, they are still entertaining which is more important than most of these comments want to believe. If you're listening to people talk on the radio they can't be dry and give hard reporting; leave that to the papers and regular news stations.

    Posted by Matt D. February 26, 09 03:05 PM
  1. oompa loompa loopidty doo

    Posted by Glen Ordway February 26, 09 03:05 PM
  1. I couldn't agree more with you Chad. I enjoy Dale & Holley and the whiner line. The rest are just boorish. If only the junkies would have the fortitude to just turn it off the rest of the time...

    Posted by NatM February 26, 09 03:05 PM
  1. Absolutely and totally spot on! Dennis & Callahan in particular are gallingly over the top and self righteous and politically somewhere to the right of Hitler. The Big Show caters to whiners (hence, the whiner line) and argumentative losers (hence, the co-hosts). Dale & Holley are civil and insightful. But Planet Mikey is my favorite because Mikey never forgets the long road he took to the top and how funny he had to be to get there. The fact that he replaced the ultimate in arrogance in Ted Sarandon is just gravy!

    Posted by Laker Fan February 26, 09 03:05 PM
  1. Check out the afternoon drive show on ESPN I think you will like it. I can't stand that big zero and and all the other meatheads with him

    Posted by Steve February 26, 09 03:05 PM
  1. WEEI is worthless. Same moronic ditto heads call in time after time and the hosts are equally ignorant and seldom if ever shed light on an issue. Sadly there is no quality sports reporting on radio.

    Posted by Otis February 26, 09 03:06 PM
  1. Thank You!

    Posted by Demian in Charlotte NC February 26, 09 03:09 PM
  1. The way some of the hosts mock listeners who might not be all that smart is really disgusting. And though i don't like the station generally I must say that Glen Ordway is one of the smartest sports analysts I have ever heard anywhere. The guy absolutely knows his stuff. Finn failing to fully acknowledge that really hurts the credibility of his piece.

    Posted by forechek February 26, 09 03:09 PM
  1. I like most of the WEEI programs, especially now that Mustard and Johnson is off the air. I now listen on Saturdays. I didn't when they were on. My biggest problem is with the callers, or by extensino, the call screeners. If I don't like a show (as with M&J) I don't listen to it. However, right in the middle of a show you can suddenly find yourself listening to Danny from Quincy, Frank from Gloucester, Steve from Fall River or several other callers who call frequently and basically say the same thing each time. I think they should try to limit these callers to no more than once a week.

    Posted by Blow 'em up quick February 26, 09 03:09 PM
  1. I have to agree with Chad...I can not stand listening to D&C in the morning talking about politics...Dale & Hollie have a great show..the big show is annoying most of the time..

    Posted by tbone February 26, 09 03:10 PM
  1. Count your blessings, folks. If you lived in Tampa Bay, you would have zero talent in the afternoon sports talk shows, which includes Jim Rome.

    Yikes.

    Be happy. Weei is a world above these folks here. I listen on the "net" cause there is nothing worth listening to locally

    Posted by Russ in New Port Richey, FL February 26, 09 03:10 PM
  1. D&C are god-awful, their sports talk sucks, their political talk sucks, Meterpierel sucks. An all around crappy show. Dale and Holley and the Big Show are great though. Aside from a few co-hosts(Smerlas, Butch Stearns, Steve Burton) the rest are very good and usually provide good insight. Like a lot of people have said, if you think WEEI is bad, go to other cities and listen to the terrible shows they have. While I would love a little more college basketball talk, I understand its not what the majority wants to hear.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 03:11 PM
  1. I can;t listen to that station at all, except mid-day. I like Felger's afternoon show on 890, and Mike & Mike is better than the other option. WEEi is weak. I also agree about the Zone programming. If they olny did have a better signnal.

    Posted by Don Carter February 26, 09 03:11 PM
  1. if you don't like it, change the channel, then the smaller stations will get more ratings, build more towers, get better signals etc...

    That doesnt happen because Ordway is the MAN.

    Posted by carlo February 26, 09 03:11 PM
  1. You forgot the info-mercials with Larry Lucchino.

    I don't tune in that much anymore. Used to call in too. Too stressful, particularly if you take an anti-establishment or anti-instituion stance.

    Posted by joe from boston February 26, 09 03:12 PM
  1. Im the new PD of EEI
    6-10 Felger and Rusillo - D&C are unlistenable and outdated
    10-2 Holley & Mike Smith an all Black Team is exactly what EEI needs
    2-6 White Noise - Anything is better than the Big Show

    Posted by Im the new PD of EEI February 26, 09 03:14 PM
  1. WEEI is an absolute embarrassment to any knowledgible basketball fan. I cannot believe the absolute stupidity and low hoops IQ of the hosts. Instead of talking about the game, plays, players or even coaching, they resort to juvenile name calling and whining about referees after any Celtic loss.

    I wish a competitor would run an intelligent sports talk show.

    Posted by Eric February 26, 09 03:14 PM
  1. Im the new PD of EEI
    6-10 Felger and Rusillo - D&C are unlistenable and outdated
    10-2 Holley & Mike Smith an all Black Team is exactly what EEI needs
    2-6 White Noise - Anything is better than the Big Show

    Posted by Im the new PD of EEI February 26, 09 03:14 PM
  1. Chad you nailed it on all counts.
    I live in central mass (Lancaster) and was always mournful that 1510 didnt reach out in my area, even during the day. We listen to WEEI because of our passion for sports, not the blowhards who claim to be experts. As a mocking experiment, they gave Jermaine from everett and his pal their own show. The funny thing is, I enjoyed them just as much. These blowhards dont offer insight, they offer opinions. And frankly, any one of us that is even remotel;y articulate could do their job and the fans would still listen. What amazes ne is that Jason Wolf wastes so much money on over priced "talent". ANYBODY would get the same ratings.

    Posted by Tired of the hypocrisy February 26, 09 03:15 PM
  1. Chad, I didn't realize you had written this article, which is great, until I tuned into the Big Show and Ordway and Pete starting going ballistic about it. You obviously touched a nerve - good job. So, as happens so often with WEEI, I just turned it off. The part of Glenn and Pete's rant (helped along by their co-hosts) that really cracked me up was when they started coming to the defense of those callers you call the lowest common denominator. What hypocrites. Between 6-10 a.m. and 2-6 p.m., you could not find more contempt for their callers than you do on WEEI. Why anyone would call that station to offer an opinion is beyond me. I won't go into the list of complaints I have about 'EEI, you pretty much nailed it.

    Posted by midnightmick February 26, 09 03:15 PM
  1. From when I began listening to WEEI back in 95 the station has gone light years in reverse. I was an absolute addict, from listening first thing in the morning until I went to bed, it was awesome.

    Over the course of years though, it has grown into a ugly monster. These overpaid, pampered, self appointed celebrities have become so full of themselves it makes me sick (yeah, that includes Dale too!). Not to mention the work schedule of a grammar school kid (every holiday under the sun off and 4 months of vacation time a year). To me that kind of stuff grows on the average Joe that has to go out and bust his a$$ to make ends meet.

    As far as calling WEEI the number one station in America, I have to disagree. WFAN by far kicks the crap out of what EEI does. They don't take 15-18 minute commercial break at whatever time they want. Their 20/20 flashes are spot on every hour every day, with a max break of 6 minutes. Not only that, but they broadcast around the clock, they don't shut it down at 11:30 and go to some national syndicated garbage.

    My head hurts just writing this, I hope I got my point across.

    Oh yea, BTW did I forgot to mention how OVERPAID these clowns are for what they do.

    Posted by Bob February 26, 09 03:15 PM
  1. I have written WEEi several times on these very topics. I like sports talk, and don't mind occasional politics if it can be done civilly. I don't understand why D&C get away with being so anti-Obama, claiming it has nothing to do with race. And they are anti-Semitic to their lapdog JMP, who takes it in good fun but should know better. Racists and bigots never admit to being that way, but I'm glad to see i'm not the only one who turns off their show regularly. There must be a way they can be entertaining to bigoted listeners without alienating others I can't believe their sponsor Dunkin Donuts wants the show to be so angry and bigoted.

    Posted by JAM February 26, 09 03:17 PM
  1. Right on !!!

    I hate when I get in the car in the morning and Dennis and Callahan are on becuase I was listening to the Sox the evening before. They are so far rightof center its hard to fathom what must have happened to them as kids to make them so bitter. They are borderline racist and seem to have no empathy for folks who have not been as fortunate as themselves. Boils my blood !!!!

    Posted by Brendan February 26, 09 03:18 PM
  1. Ahh, ahem, I ah know a little about uh, aftahnoon drive. Ahem. And chinese food.

    Posted by Eddie from Lynnfield February 26, 09 03:18 PM
  1. turned on mike and mike and will never listen to d&c again.....
    for once the continous talkover of the big show has been noted

    Posted by peter February 26, 09 03:19 PM
  1. don't be surprised that globe readers don't like weei. that's like asking vegetarians if they like cheeseburgers.

    Posted by cursereversed February 26, 09 03:20 PM
  1. I only hope that this blog was a marketing ploy by the Globe to gauge listener loyalty to EEI to determine the merits of starting their own Sports Radio Station. And the results are overwhelming. WE WANT ANOTHER CHOICE... PLEASE!
    We are fed up with the egomaniacs at EEI.
    The premise behind the Big Show was to bring in two co-hosts that were experts to get their opinions and interact with the callers. Ordway was supposed to be there to moderate and keep the show moving. Somehow, it has evolved into 4 hours of listening to Ordway lecture, Sheppard interrupt, Brett and Andy interject sound effects and throw in their insults of everyone. God forbid they have an intelligent person like Merloni on there, he can't get in a word and get's ridiculed when he's not there. Meanwhile, we need "former Patriot Great Linebacker" Steve DeOssie (who was a washed-up has been long snapper with the Pats) and "Patriots All-Pro lineman" Fred Smerlas (who was also washed up and useless with the Pats) to come one and spend the entire show talking about their outside business interests... Or we get a bunch of media types that just want to bow down to Ordway, Brett and Andy so that they get invited back on the show. But what we certainly don't get is Talk Radio with intelligent callers that get to voice their opinions. Enough is enough!

    Posted by Scott February 26, 09 03:21 PM
  1. GIVE MICHAEL FELGER HIS OWN SHOW!!

    Posted by Ed February 26, 09 03:21 PM
  1. Everyone may have an opinion regarding WEEI, its hosts, and programs, I even share some of the same thoughts. But you can't argue it's success. The first line of this article sums it up. So if you hate the characters or personalities on that station, simply change the station. Matter of fact, I recommend Sirius radio. It's much better in programming and content.

    Posted by Louie February 26, 09 03:23 PM
  1. Chad is dead on for the most part here. I admit it, I listen, and every day I ask myself why. If there was a decent alternative, I would listen. I did listen to Felger until he went off the air, and I thought his show struck a great balance between entertainment and informative discourse. He actually had people like Keith Law and Rusillo on, you know, guys that know what they're talking about and are still entertaining. Instead we get homerism to the point of propaganda, and drooling blowhards like Pete Shepperd. People think that sports radio is based on disagreements, and they should listen to the Big Show, because nobody ever disagrees with anyone on anything significant (unless it's with a caller who's making an intelligent, informed observation).

    Posted by James Irigay February 26, 09 03:23 PM
  1. Dale and Holley are great. They know their sports and have some good conversations about a mix of sports. D&C are two fools who don't even seem to like sports so they discuss recent movies or other headlines instead. They need to be on a different station. The guys on the Big Show spend so much time yelling at each other and the listeners that you can't even understand what they're saying! I was a regular listener but I've stopped listening to anything other than Dale and Holley at this point. I'd rather have them in the morning or afternoon so I'd get a chance to hear them more often! I know that things won't change because the ratings are so high but it's nice to know that others feel the same way.

    Posted by Tracey February 26, 09 03:23 PM
  1. Me too. Add me to the list of people who agree with point of this column. Although I think the article could have been written to sound less like a scorned lover I think the content is accurate.

    I stopped listening to WEEI over a year ago after being a fan for several years. I finally became sick of all the political talk in the morning and dumb jock talk in the afternoons. I thought midday was just boring goody goody stuff.

    I went out and bought a satellite radio to get real broadcasts instead.

    Posted by Village Idiot February 26, 09 03:24 PM
  1. You have got to be kidding me. Get a sense of humor and don't take sports or sports talk so seriously. I'd love to give my opinions like the big show is able to. Besides have you seen there ratings. THEY ARE VERY GOOD SO OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE ENJOYS IT. COUNT ME AS ONE OF THOSE.

    Posted by RICK February 26, 09 03:24 PM
  1. We're blessed to live a market driven society. If Finn's was the majority opinion, WEEI would not exist. If WEEI was so ripe for the picking, someone would invest the money to take them on. WEEI may not be a Globe readers cup of tea, but the ultimate arbiter of good or bad is the ratings book............

    Posted by weeifan February 26, 09 03:25 PM
  1. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!! CHAD NEEDS TO CALL INTO WEEI AND SLAM THOSE FAT BASSSTARRDSSS!!!

    Posted by iRich February 26, 09 03:25 PM
  1. I use to love listening to WEEI but when the election came around for the past year all you could hear was politics. Come on guys it's a sports radio station. I don't care what you think about politics. In fact I don't care what you think about at all except for sports and the charities that you sponsor.

    I haven't listened to WEEI in about 6 months because of all the non-sports talk. Instead if I want my sports talk thankfully I have XM Radio and can listen to other stations around the nation. It's sad, becuase I really use to like WEEI.

    Posted by Paul February 26, 09 03:25 PM
  1. Sounds like someone is trying to make a name for themselves by criticizing a highly rated radio program. Nice try boss but you look foolish and bitter.

    Posted by SOURGRAPES February 26, 09 03:25 PM
  1. I agree, Dennis and Callahan are atrocious, when Callahan called anybody having trouble with their mortgages, deadbeats, I couldn't believe it. Now we'll have 4 hrs times 4 yrs of Obama bashing all morning long. Dale and Holley are OK , though Dale gets kind of syrupy. The Big Show can be entertaining, but continues to aggravate. Get rid of the pompous puke DeOssie. Bring back Neumie ,and more Felger , in fact they would make an awesome morning show. I listened constantly when D&C were on "hiatus". and when Callahan was out with his throat issues.

    Posted by Rick/Worcester February 26, 09 03:26 PM
  1. Some valid points but in the interest of full disclosure, shouldn't the WEEI/Boston Globe feud have at least been mentioned?? There might be some readers who are STILL unaware of it...

    Posted by Dean February 26, 09 03:26 PM
  1. Hmm, a sports blogger implying to residents of an area that is as educated as any in the country, that if they enjoy listening to WEEI they somehow are unsophisticated. Given that less than 1% of listeners actually call the station one wonders just how the erudite author came to that conclusion. Oh yeah, that's right. Through faulty analysis. Be that as it may, I hope Chad's follow up is on his colleagues like Dan Shaughnessy and the Herald's Ron Borges both of whom pretty much exemplify the qualities which Chad purports to detest in WEEI.
    Frankly, it's surprising that a newspaper, albeit one with declining circulation, would criticize people for their choice of listening entertainment. What's next, criticism of listeners of Rap, criticism of those who like so-called art like that of Robert Mapplethorpe, criticism of those who watch reality TV like "American Idol"? - well, okay, you got me on that last one.
    Oh, by the way, why doesn't Chad Finn just blog about what happens on the field? Why not? Just look at all the responses to this article. Has he ever had more in such a short time? Why doesn't WEEI just talk sports...?

    Posted by T-man February 26, 09 03:27 PM
  1. WE HAVE THE BIGGEST RATINGS!!! PLEASE STOP BIG O AND ALL OF HIS BUTT LOVERS!!! HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ASKED WHAT STATION YOU LISTEN TO? I KNOW I HAVEN'T! AND FOR YOU IDIOTS LIKE THE GUY THAT SAID "CHANGE THE STATION SO THEY GET LOWER RATING" UMMMM THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS HARVARD GRAD!!! THEY DON'T MAGICALLY JUST KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LISENTING TO!!!! GOOD JOB CHAD!! THEY CANNOT!!! STOP TALKING ABOUT YOU HILARIOUS HOW EASY IT IS TO CONTROL SIMPLE MINDS

    Posted by ME February 26, 09 03:27 PM
  1. I like how Callahan rips J.D. Drew and says he's a wimp because of his bad back. I wish J.D. Drew would call in and say "...yeah, but at least I didn't take 6 months off because of a tickle in my throat".

    Sirius is the best...limited commercials, and best of all...high on information...low on info-tainment. ESPN and NFL Radio are the best.

    Posted by HOMPA! February 26, 09 03:27 PM
  1. TREMENDOUS work.

    eei (I refuse to capitalize their call letters because they s*ck so much) has been horrendous and infuriating for years -- I was thrilled when Russillo and even Sean McDonough before him had their thing going on 1510, and I think it's a reflection on Boston sports fans that those shows didn't take: If Boston is such a smart sports town, why do we make these eei clowns so rich and popular? They have NO new information beyond what we all know already from having watched the games and read the papers, NO original opinions, and NO ability to engage in a legitimate conversation that recognizes and examines gray areas -- it's all boring absolutes on that station.

    Two things I disagree with: dale and holley are absolutely awful. I mean, has the bar really been set so low that just because these two twirps don't spend half the show trading fat jokes, they're considered consummate professionals? How about having something interesting to say? Oh, and MIke Giardi -- he had nothing to say, either. Russillo, Anik, Sean McDonough, occasionally Felger...and some of the beat writers. That's about it for intelligent, informative sports talk in Boston.

    Posted by rosencrantz1 February 26, 09 03:28 PM
  1. Great article, it's great to see someone tell it like it is. Keep up the good work.

    Ed

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 03:29 PM
  1. You elitist, stuck up, snobs. Sorry Pal, MBA/CPA Top 1% earner here. Your left wing radio shows can't get a 1% share, that is BAD radio, that can't hold an audience for 10 seconds never mind 10 minutes. Your left wing newspaper is on its way out and can't make any money. Maybe you should think about changing formats!
    Sports talk radio at WEEI is a great combination of sports, life, politics and fun. I listen every chance I get, if it is a topic I don't enjoy I turn the dial, maybe you should too!
    Maybe Fred Smurlus can't articulate as well as your liberal freinds but he is knowledgable about a sport he played and I learn something from him on a consistent basis.

    Posted by tc12gx01 February 26, 09 03:30 PM
  1. While I am an avid sports fan/season ticket holder who lives and dies with the local teams, Dale and Holley is the only show I can tolerate on WEEI. I do visit the WEEI website and listen to selected interviews through their "Audio On Demand".
    Sean McDonough had an intelligent sports talk radio show a number of years ago, but apparently he set the bar too high to generate sufficient ratings with the local audience.

    Posted by TC February 26, 09 03:30 PM
  1. It's infotainment, people. There's a cast of characters on the Big Show each with their own personalities. Mike Felger? Are you kidding? Why do you think he left 900 and went back to WEEI for a cool $1M ? Because 900's signal goes from Manchester NH to Chelmsford and 4 people listen. If I want guy sports talk, I'll listen to WEEI. I'd rather have homer radio than the cookie-cutter crap they broadcast from Bristol and everywhere else.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 03:30 PM
  1. I agree If mike and mike were on all day weei would be in trouble !! It seems the search is over. The worlds most smartest men have been found. Just tune in to weei.lol

    Posted by Scott February 26, 09 03:31 PM
  1. Dale Arnold is awful. How he continues to stay employed is anyone's guess. Bruins, Sox or Dale & Holly it doesn't matter. He's an "F" personality in an "A" sports market. Listening to him is like listening to some whiney little school girl having a hissy fit in the grocery store because mommy won't buy her something. Send his butt back to Maine.
    Felger, Dickerson and Meterperal suck also. I'd pay to see Smerlas kick all four of there asses.
    Jason Wolfe should do himself a favor and hire the Guy From Boston and put Mike Adams in prime time. The others belong on some weak ass station in Bangor.

    Posted by marcelluswallace February 26, 09 03:31 PM
  1. First, isn't this piece in the newspaper that doesn't allow any of their writers on the radio station because "we don't like them!".
    Second, it is obvious Finn hasn't listened to Sports Radio in any other Market, especially NY. All they do is talk about how great their teams and players are and they don't get into anything controversial (especially when it comes to the Yankees).
    I just think this guy is upset because he is not allowed on the show!

    Posted by Avid Listener February 26, 09 03:31 PM
  1. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!! CHAD NEEDS TO CALL INTO WEEI AND SLAM THOSE FAT BASSSTARRDSSS!!!

    Posted by iRich February 26, 09 03:32 PM
  1. THANK YOU! The best show on WEEI is Dale & Holley, if for no other reason than they don't treat their own opinions like gospel, and they don't yell at the very people they have invited to call. Also, Mutt & Bradford are decent, simply because they tend to be a little more laid back and don't pick fights.

    D&C in the morning are borderline senile, and spend more time talking about "24" than sports. Then there is the biggest blowhard of them all, the Big O. He has no real talent, other than the ability to nauseate listeners and ridicule callers before he even lets them finish their questions. And who are these people that keep calling in? Dakota? Some dude who is a wrestler? And the whiner line... what a pathetic spectacle that is. Some moron calling Ordway a "fat bastahd" wasn't funny the first time, let alone the 700th.

    Posted by Matt H February 26, 09 03:33 PM
  1. I agree with much of what Finn stated in his article but I think he takes it too far. Blaming the failure of ESPN radio is not giving enough credit to the staff of WEEI. The Big O may have read too many of his own accolades in recent years and his tendency to talk over his guests can be maddening but his ratings are stellar in large part because he caters to his audience. While I am turned off by windbags like Smerlas,the eccentricities of Mike Adams and Callahan's politics, I understand they each attract an audience for their respective spots - I just turn the dial when they are on. WEEI has done a great job of enlisting local writers for their weekend shows (Bradford, McAdam, even Buckley when he's not touting his baseball game). I was a regular listener to Felger's show on 890/1510 and was very disappointed when he was ousted but I realize I can be a sports elitist. On a side note, I'm hoping either Felger or Mutt hosts the Baseball show this year - I can't take another year of Mike Adams.

    Posted by sulkev February 26, 09 03:33 PM
  1. Lowest common denominator..you're a jerk. Have you ever tried listening to those other shows on other dials. They are boring and I learn nothing from them. Did you ever think some people listen to WEEI for sports as well as a good laugh. Typical snob from the Globe. Let your boss know I'm canceling my subscription to your paper because of you.

    Posted by Christine February 26, 09 03:33 PM
  1. I used to be a fan of EEI. However, each show seems to be talking about the same topics in the same way. I know it's great being a Boston sports fan, but I wish they had some differing opinions to make the conversations interesting. The article does make a great point about the constant interruptions by the hosts of certain shows. It's sometimes difficult to figure out who is saying what and who is responding to whom. I started listening to 1510 and, being a poker player, found myself listening to their poker show, House of Cards. It was different, with interesting discussions, funny bits and pretty good music. Then I found out that the host was from Long Island and the cohost was from NJ (oh well, I guess no one is perfect).

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 03:34 PM
  1. Go away EEI! Just go away!

    Posted by Mone February 26, 09 03:34 PM
  1. Go away EEI! Just go away!

    Posted by Mone February 26, 09 03:34 PM
  1. Outstanding work Chad, I'm glad you're taking a stand for what appears to be the majority of the Boston Sports audience. Several of my friends and I have had this same discussion overthe past five years. You are undoubtedly going to get berated for this article, but maybe, just maybe, it will start a groundswell the will lead to a better alternative in Boston Sports Radio. We can only pray.

    I expect that the WEEI Hosts and Bigwigs will not take the time to actually reflect on your points - not even for a minute. If they did, maybe they could better themselves and the station . Instead, they're probably just going to yell and scream as loud as they can about this, which ironically wil point out just how right you are.

    Thanks Chad.

    Posted by Timmy February 26, 09 03:35 PM
  1. Cursereversed, don't go there with the "this is just the Globe hating on EEI". To get 500 plus comments in the same direction tells a bigger story.

    IT IS WHAT IT IS BROTHER!

    Posted by Bob February 26, 09 03:36 PM
  1. People who want to hear entertaining but informative and insightful sports talk should try Mike and Mike and ESPN 890 AM. Though its a national program, there is enough talk about Boston teams. Even the other topics are presented well and keeps me interested.

    Posted by EdA February 26, 09 03:36 PM
  1. Only in Boston could people who proclaim such disdain about a station know every little detail about what they swear they can't listen too!! I'm sure the station is hoping you all continue to "never listen again"!!

    Posted by Bsox09 February 26, 09 03:36 PM
  1. glenn doesn't get enough credit for all his charitable work and tremendous mustache grooming

    Posted by bholmes February 26, 09 03:36 PM
  1. Glenn you are missing the point. You can still have an entertaining show with more than 2 people in the studio while letting someone finish a thought, a sentence, a phrase, without talking over them.....
    If there were an alternative where the "talkover" wasn't present you'd be unemployed....What a country.

    Posted by Brian G. February 26, 09 03:36 PM
  1. Plain and simple folks...we love sports and talking about sports. We don't have many options, so EEI is all we got. So we listen. That is THE only reason why they are "successful". It's easy to be number one when you are the only one. It's like winning an election when you are the only one running. You think you ran a great campign, but all you had to do was not screw it up.

    Mike and Holley I can deal with. Not as much yelling and insults. And I actually like Big O and those guys when they are calm and focused. But those times are rare . They are more like a bunch of guys that met at the bar after a hard day in the mines. Anxious to speak and be heard and no patience for much else.
    So, Satellite radio, here I come. (And their commercial breaks take up half of the
    20 minute commute it takes to get home.)

    Posted by John February 26, 09 03:36 PM
  1. Thank you for this public call-out.
    For years, my biggest problem has been D+C. Just oversimplified, ignorant, and hateful spewing. It's too bad, cause I'd love a little sports talk in the AM but, for me, they are truly un-listenable. For what it's worth, I didn't think your pigment comment was unfair or went too far.
    Thanks again.

    Posted by steve grogan February 26, 09 03:36 PM
  1. I hate EEI now. Thank god for Mike & Mike in the morning on ESPN 890. That is great sports radio.

    Posted by Matt February 26, 09 03:37 PM
  1. Racist .....Right Wing, get a life , there is enough of that crap spewed all over the low watt clandestine radio stations that thrive in Mattapan & Roxbury, it's supposed to be humerous, do you deciples of the New Messiah feel hurt that someone has the balls to speak up and voice the opinion of a lot of us ? I'll tell you who i miss....Neumier....bring back Neumy so at least when dale is on vacation it doesn't turn into Brother Radio like it has been

    Posted by i miss Neumy February 26, 09 03:37 PM
  1. A station of nitwits, neanderthals and otherwise boring half-humans. Callihan is a waste of breath and the afternoon pack of fat wolves is even worse. Give us more Mikey.

    Posted by Bubbadog February 26, 09 03:37 PM
  1. Its sad because you know EEI will never change as long as ratings are good. I love sports radio and always tune in when there are great trades or wins or controversies...but inevitably I'm turned off by the arguing, off-topic banter, and close-minded attitudes of the hosts. I always enjoy the hosts that provide real insight (Felger, Holley, even Merloni) but the others are caricatures.

    Posted by chris February 26, 09 03:38 PM
  1. Bravo,
    The number of responses here are telling. I am a typical "Stupid Boston Sports Fan" that needs to tune in and hear about the local teams. D&C and their callers are un-listenable in the AM. The political rants are off the chart. They do not allow any real debate. To top it off I have to worry about my kids listening to some real inappropriate "news" at 7:30 AM. EEI it's time for a change! Like many others I am forced to tune into the Mike and Mike program in order to get any updates. I would rather hear a local program but there is no real option until Dale and Holly comes on. Good luck Chad, this is going to be fun.

    Posted by PBaz February 26, 09 03:38 PM
  1. Just b/c the side comments lean to the conservative side doesn't mean that it's wrong (the same would be true if it comments leaned the other way). If you don't like what you're listening to, turn the channel or get on Sirius XM and have your choice of more than a 100 channels.

    Posted by A country full of whiners February 26, 09 03:38 PM
  1. Get a clue Chad, WEEI is funny, insightful and entertaining. I have been listening to sports radio in this town for a long time, and the format you opine for has never worked, it is boring. The Michael Felger show was decent, but smart? Are you kidding me? Ok Mr. Morrissey blvd cheese and wine crowd elitist. No wonder your paper is going in the tank, you don’t understand good radio. Controversy makes good radio, opinions make good radio. Good hosts and good interviews make good radio. Not some imagined “high brow” material. That’s called a snooze fest Chad.

    Posted by Andy February 26, 09 03:39 PM
  1. you have lost your mind my friend! I love WEEI. When I was a young man at the age of 13 I starting listening (about 1995) and I have been a avid listener ever since. There is nothing like it out there all 3 shows bring something different to the table. The Big Show is my favorite out of all of them because its like a round table discussion. Even though they yell and talk over each other most of the time I am laughing at their "disrespect" for each other. Name me another radio show that is better. Mike and Mike? Rome? Dan Patrick? anything on the FAN? NOTHING COMES CLOSE! The only problem I have with WEEI is the letting go of Newmie, Holly has come a long way since his first year as co-host, but no could ever make me laugh like Newmie. WEEI IS THE BEST !

    Posted by Lucas M February 26, 09 03:39 PM
  1. Hey look,

    A few more EEi defenders have come in??!! haha they must have heard their gods on the radio and came here to comment( still vastly outnumbered) the first they heard of it is when the small O talked about it!!! its called reading guys!!! I know most of you eei supporters don't understand that newspapers and internet articles exsist!!! here ya go

    Posted by tom February 26, 09 03:39 PM
  1. WEEI: Dennis & Callahan, I can't take them anymore. Even if they didn't talk one-sided politics they beat a story until it is a glob of goo. Anyone still want to talk about steroids and Roger......gak. So over to FM music I go. I do listen to the Big Show when I head home just as a stress relief....are any of those callers for real. Like listening to old time comedy. No sports insight but listening to some jamoak that is calling from his "Mom's basement" is pretty funny.

    Posted by Gak February 26, 09 03:39 PM
  1. Hey look,

    A few more EEi defenders have come in??!! haha they must have heard their gods on the radio and came here to comment( still vastly outnumbered) the first they heard of it is when the small O talked about it!!! its called reading guys!!! I know most of you eei supporters don't understand that newspapers and internet articles exsist!!! here ya go

    Posted by tom February 26, 09 03:39 PM
  1. I love sports radio but can't stand the format employed by WEEI. Marginally informed, obnoxious, self-indulgent narcissists, yelling and screaming over callers, engaging in sophmoric insults of callers and each other. It becomes painful at times.

    I want desperately to listen, become informed and entertained but all too often I turn off the station because the inane banter of these huge egos is too difficult to listen to.

    If ESPN radio had a stronger signal it would be great.

    Posted by Peter M. February 26, 09 03:39 PM
  1. I don't like WEEI, I don't listen, but this column is sour grapes.

    Posted by Paul February 26, 09 03:40 PM
  1. This station came to Maine which I thought at first might be pretty cool until I tried listening to it. WoW. This is popular in Beantown?! I don't get it. We're doomed

    Posted by Mainer February 26, 09 03:42 PM
  1. Amen. Colin Cowherd (though a bit of an ass sometimes) is the most entertaining, humorous and enlightened sports talk show host out there, bar none.

    Posted by Anil February 26, 09 03:42 PM
  1. I live in NYC and I live for WEEI. I was never more thrilled than when I found out I could log onto the internet and listen to my favorite station. And it seems to me that the Globe and boston.com don't even allow their reporters on WEEI. This blog is completely biased as is this site and the Globe. I wonder if the poll results would be the same if this poll were taken in the Herald. The Globe is such a bunch of stuck-up snobs looking down their noses at everybody else.

    Posted by Kelly February 26, 09 03:44 PM
  1. I went to the Comediquit School of Broadcasting! You're just a blogger!

    Posted by Pete the Meathead February 26, 09 03:44 PM
  1. I have listened to WEEI for years. The hosts have many foibles, many that are endearing, and many that make me want to scream.
    Two random things that I dislike about WEEI:
    1. Beating stories to death. Give us some HIGH YIELD information. Don't keep rehashing the same boring stories (e.g., The Varitek and Manny sagas).
    2. Hosts should work on their grammar. For example, almost no one on the station uses the possessive form with participles. Incorrect: "I appreciate him being completely honest." Correct: "I appreciate HIS being completely honest." As an aside, Dale Arnold, a Bowdoin College graduate, should avoid having such "particularly" formulaic speech.

    Posted by Mustard February 26, 09 03:44 PM
  1. I used to set my alarm to D&C in the AM because as soon as I heard two syllables from either one of those clowns, I'd bolt up and hit the "off" button. Two syllables became too much. They're Rush wannabees, popular with the same empty headed Faux News crowd.
    Whenever I get calls from EEI's marketing dept asking me if I want to advertise my company on their station, I tell them to fire all of the jocks except Felger & Holley & Mikey A and I'd consider it. If they want to raise money for the Jimmy Fund, EEI should let people pledge money to meet D&C in the parking lot and kick their candy a$$es. I'll pledge $250 to get 10 minutes with either of them.

    Posted by Rob in Melrose February 26, 09 03:45 PM
  1. i absolutely adore dale and holley. they're far and away the best part of WEEI. i honestly listen to the station for d & h and just keep it on until 5pm because even the big o's rants at epic volume are more enjoyable than dealing with some of my coworkers.

    Posted by lori February 26, 09 03:46 PM
  1. I think it is in poor taste that the Globe doesn't allow writers on WEEI.

    It is the number one station in the US.
    The Globe isnt even close.
    The show is entertainment.
    Guy radio with out the filth of Stern.
    You can find out some good soprts items about the 4 Boston teams.
    Id prefer less Pete and less of Meta Peril.

    Posted by Bob February 26, 09 03:46 PM
  1. Thank you Chad, Thank you....I like many of the other posts couldn't agree with you more, there's no question that when I do listen, it is because I love Boston sports, not because I enjoy getting my news from the idiots on EEI. I'm skeptical, but I truly hope that this article is the beginning of a movement towards change. The hacks producing this garbage need this reality check. Just because The Big O and the rest of those meat heads have the privilege to broadcast during our evening commute doesn't mean that they are god's gift to sports radio....Hell, I watch Jim Rome is Burning when I walk in the door each afternoon just because its the best thing on ESPN @ 4:30. What else am I gonna watch?....Judge Judy??

    Posted by Thetruth February 26, 09 03:46 PM
  1. The only way to make change..don't shop at their sponsors, and then, tell their sponsors why you won't do business with them.

    WEEI = Misogynists, homophobes and the lowest of scum...Fred Smerlas

    Posted by Gerry February 26, 09 03:46 PM
  1. This article smacks of typical Globe eltism.....which I loathe more than the political talk on WEEI mornings - and the scream fests from 2-6pm. It also smacks of the arrogance you claim WEEI displays. Put it this way: to me, ALL SPORTS MEDIA IN BOSTON HAS BECOME UNBEARABLE - print, radio....and bloggers such as yourself. Interestingly enough, the worst of the worst would be Shaughnessy, Mazzarotti and Borges. Talk about arrogant blowhards! Interestingly enough, each of those morons are, or were, Globe employees. Figures.

    Posted by Garb February 26, 09 03:47 PM
  1. Clearly an attempt to generate site visits to this OT thing that none of us ever paid attention to.

    600 comments later....

    Well done. It worked.

    Posted by Hoss February 26, 09 03:48 PM
  1. If Mr. Finn was allowed on EEI I wonder if he would have a different take.
    Can't wait for the whiner line today!

    Posted by Rush February 26, 09 03:48 PM
  1. Thank you Chad, Thank you....I like many of the other posts couldn't agree with you more, there's no question that when I do listen, it is because I love Boston sports, not because I enjoy getting my news from the idiots on EEI. I'm skeptical, but I truly hope that this article is the beginning of a movement towards change. The hacks producing this garbage need this reality check. Just because The Big O and the rest of those meat heads have the privilege to broadcast during our evening commute doesn't mean that they are god's gift to sports radio....Hell, I watch Jim Rome is Burning when I walk in the door each afternoon just bec

    Posted by Thetruth February 26, 09 03:48 PM
  1. My favorite bit of radio is when Dennis and Callahan spend most of Tuesdays talking about last night's episode of 24. I'm sorry, when I said favorite I mean it makes my ears bleed. Does anyone really care? I'd rather listen to another Brad Faxon interview... at least golf is a sport, so it's on topic. It's a shame that the station's best show is on during the only time (midday, when I'm at work) I can't listen to the radio.

    Posted by MarshallDog February 26, 09 03:49 PM
  1. I agree with everything in the column except for when he says the "whiner" line is the best thing going. They should put that bit of "entertainment" out of its misery. The callers (except for the Ted Kennedy impersonator" try to tell jokes in a sarcastic tone about current sporting events and they are simply not funny in the least. In the morning, skip Dennis and Callahan and if you want laughs, go to Lauren and Wally (and Tom Doyle). These guys are entertainers. Sports guys aren't funny at all. Dale and Holly do a good job, except when Dale goes on his hockey talks then it's time for some music. Holly has to stop saying "Stop, Stop, Stop" everytime he wants a caller to shut up. Mike, there are more tactful and better ways to handle it. Mike Adams is not bad because he doesn't take a condescending attiutude towards his callers. One thing Mike, please, please, please invest in a jingle writer and get yourself a new theme song, that one you have now is embarrassing. The Big Show, if you don't agree with them, don't bother calling. You either "don't get it" a Pete Shepard and Glen Ordway favorite. Or, "you're not listening" a Steve Deossie favorite. Or "that's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard" (Shepard again), Fred Smerlas sounds like Bob Dylan (sorry Bob, I still love your music) eating a peanut butter and fluff sandwich and washing down with molassis he so untelligible. Ordway will always talk over a listener if he doesn't agree with him. I think the most deplorable thing though is that these callers, who sometimes wait up to and over an hour to talk for a few minutes at most, are routinely hung up on in mid-sentence with an explosion sound. Does WEEI have good ratings, I suppose it does. But it would have better ratings with better quality talent.

    Posted by Bill CashDollar February 26, 09 03:49 PM
  1. i miss numey...

    Bother Radio huh?

    Way to show your true colors, I think you are making my point.

    I would also love to here how they judge radio ratings. No one ever asked me what I listen too and how often I change the station.

    Posted by jpbaz February 26, 09 03:50 PM
  1. I stopped listening to this station a while ago. I listen to WFAN on 900 AM in Nashua NH. Much better sports stuff. It's funny that white trash shanty irish Callahan thinks he is so awesome.

    Posted by Dan February 26, 09 03:50 PM
  1. WEEI sells... so does Carrot Top.

    People buying something does not mean that product is good.

    All the "talent" on [current or earlier] the station was fired from other gigs, Ordway from the Celtics, Arnold from the Bruins, Dennis & Neumeier both from local TV, Callahan from SI. Holley jumped 5 jobs before any chance to get fired, so he doesn't get full credit for not having a firing on his resume.

    Mike Adams makes Bob Gamere look like an old pro.

    Posted by Phil February 26, 09 03:50 PM
  1. Best thing I've read in the globe in a year. Well done.

    Posted by jeff dinisco February 26, 09 03:50 PM
  1. LOVE sports-HATE politics- especially people with closed minds such as your early AM duo. Thank GOD for the OFF button.

    Posted by P. Howard February 26, 09 03:50 PM
  1. I love Planet Mikey and only listen to D&C,Dale & Holley & the Big Show sparingly
    but they made a huge error by cancelling Mustard & Johnson on Saturdays.The Mutt man is the only unlistenable voice on the station.Bring back the Globies!

    Posted by Rich from Pembroke February 26, 09 03:51 PM
  1. The reason it is popular is because (sad as it may be) we are a dumb state. Or to be more specific Boston is a dumb city. I mean really folks, you have seen how alot of people act around here. The lack of intelligence in this area, is what the station caters to.

    Posted by Rick February 26, 09 03:52 PM
  1. At least give Pearl Jam proper credit, born on third thinks he hit a triple, that's from Bu$hleager. Your article is a bit off base.

    Posted by DTG February 26, 09 03:52 PM
  1. I agree with this column.

    I thoroughly enjoy tuning in for Dale and Holley's midday show, but no longer tune in for the morning or afternoon shows where the hosts bully callers who disagree with them or differ politically.

    Posted by David February 26, 09 03:52 PM
  1. So glad you brought this up. It breaks down like this:

    Bloated, balding, rosacea and gin-blossomed D&C are playing to the retiree crowd.

    Dale is the ultimate dork, how he's lasted this long is beyond me. He finishes every sentence with "but....." or "so........" or "and......." He never completes a thought. Check it out.

    Ordway's show caters to listeners whose highest level of education is a high school dipoloma or G.E.D. If you graduated from college and know how to use a personal computer, you hate the Big Show.

    Felger speaks the language of the passionate, educated sports fan. His show on ESPN was trying a little too hard to be hip and cool. Felger, just be what you are, an educated, thirtysomething sports fan. There's a lot of us out here like you. Oh, and stop whining so much.

    Posted by J-Bone February 26, 09 03:54 PM
  1. Gerry,

    who are the sponsors? if you know post some!!
    we need to get these guys out of here!! I would love some real sports talk to listen to...

    Posted by Rew February 26, 09 03:55 PM
  1. I couldn't agree with Chad Finn more. On WEEI, the  6:00 to 10:00 D & C show it is nothing more that a political right wing rant by two egocentrical windbags. The Dale & Holley show from 10:00 to 2:00 is an excellent sports talk show with intelligent, humorous commentary and a willingness to listen to the callers point of view. From 2:00 to 4:00 is what I refer to as "sports static", where all participants are so intent upon expressing their know it all opinions that everyone talks at once, producing shouting matches where no one can understand a word. Needless to say, the only time I now listen to WEEI is from 10:00 to 2:00.

    Posted by Dan Shaw February 26, 09 03:55 PM
  1. Here's WEEI in a nutshell:

    From time to time they play clips from the shows during breaks as, I guess, advertisements for the station. They used to play this one clip where a guy calls in to Dale & Holley and suggests the Patriots trying to acquire Randy Moss. Before he could finish his sentence, they hung up on him ("blew him up" as they say) and Dale Arnold (the biggest jock sniffer I've ever heard btw) says "Wow" or something to that effect, and they laugh at the guy some more.

    Needless to say they don't play that clip anymore.

    Something tells me they deleted

    Posted by Mike Hokel February 26, 09 03:56 PM
  1. Well said Chad. I listen to EEI every day only because it's the only station I get that is sports related. 10-2 is far and away the most listenable program on the dial. The Big Show is the worst. Mikey would be good if he knew anything about sports. But he doesn't so it's too bad. Of course this article will have zero affect on the programming. If anything, it will make meatheard Ordway even worse for a few days.

    Posted by MattW February 26, 09 03:56 PM
  1. And the absolute WORST feature is their "whiner line". If I unwittingly have it on for a second, I lunge toward my radio's station select buttons to change the station and cease the inanity!

    Posted by Tim Holland February 26, 09 03:57 PM
  1. I mainly listen to the 10-2 show. I enjoy Dale & Michael. Find them informative & give the callers a chance to speak. I listen to the early morning ONLY when Dennis & Callahan are on vacation or on a day off. Reception for me is poor on espn radio or 1510. I listen anyway. I'd rather listen to interference than listen to D & C or the "O" show. Cannot stand the yelling!!!!!! I am amazed the ratings are up for the morning & afternoon shows. There must be alot of knuckle draggers around.

    Posted by Joanne February 26, 09 03:58 PM
  1. I agree with this article whole-heartedly. I stopped listening because I was sick of the ranting and raving politics talk. I was sick of the one-sidededness of all their discussions, and the constant yelling louder and louder as if the loudest was the most correct. Sure, I dig an emotional response, but MANNY WAS A QUITTER! over and over was boring. How about some more in depth analysis into it, like how much influence did his agent have over the process? How much of the media view of him was influenced by the Ted Williamsian way that he would not talk to the media? Idiots. Oust em, and give us the sports radio we deserve in Boston.

    Posted by Jacob February 26, 09 03:59 PM
  1. The audience is the product and the advertiser is the customer. (Linda Ellerbee). WEEI delivers the audience, GBO pays the bills and they get what they pay for. It's the entertainment business whether you think it's entertaining, relevant, politically correct, quality programming or not. It's the way the sytem works and it works very well. This whole discussion is a win-win-win for Chad Finn, boston.com and WEEI.

    Posted by Outsider February 26, 09 04:00 PM
  1. Few, I thought I was crazy...I wouldn't paint WEEI and the particular shows with such a broad stroke though, there are times (and generally it is when they are talking sports) that I can listen fine, but I find myself switching the channel a lot. There is that oddness of turning it on during the weekend and suddenly hearing calm and well thought out opinions. Letting callers talk and then addresses their points in turn even if crazy.

    Posted by Kate February 26, 09 04:00 PM
  1. LOOK AT ME!! I'M USING MY LOUD VOICE ON THE RADIO TO GET OVER THE CALLER WHO CALLED IN AND ASKED WHY WE SPENT THE LAST THIRTY MINUTES OF A SPORTS TALK RADIO SHOW TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE GET PAID (ONE MILLION) AND WHAT WE'RE EATING (SORRY, WE'RE GETTING CRUMBS EVERYWHERE). IF YOU WROTE SOMETHING HERE, I'M IGNORING IT, LIKE EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAYS THAT'S NOT ME. OOPS, IT'S BEEN TWENTY MINUTES, TIME FOR ANOTHER TWENTY MINUTE COMMERCIAL BREAK. DON'T WORRY ABOUT CALLING IN, WE SCREEN IT FOR CALLERS WE CAN DISAGREE WITH AND IF YOU SHOW SIGNS OF INTELLIGENCE WE LEAVE YOU ON HOLD UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR THE WHINER LINE WHICH WE FILTER FOR THINGS WE CAN MAKE FUN OF.

    Posted by Typicall Big Show February 26, 09 04:01 PM
  1. WEEI is the #1 rated sports radio station in America. Isn't that fact?
    You don't have to listen to it, if you don't enjoy it... but obviously, many many people do. Some listen all day long. Some listen to specific shows only. It's entertaining, it's funny at times, and it's often good company.
    Don't like it, don't listen... pretty simple... but you'll be in the minority.
    There is some truth in the column, but also a bit of sour grapes, a bit of jealousy...
    I am just happy we have the station and all its hosts and co-hosts.

    Posted by spongebobthechef February 26, 09 04:01 PM
  1. THE BIG SHOW IS A BIG JOKE!!! How many people can talk at the same time?! Oh and then treat the listeners like idiots!

    Posted by Rhode Island listener11 February 26, 09 04:01 PM
  1. Please Chad Finn and Globe readers instruct we the lowest common denominator how to think, feel, articulate and act. I'm not worthy of your superior intellect.
    I blame Bush and the Republicans.
    Obama will fix everything. Thank god for the Boston Globe Democrat.
    Please run another Ted Kenedy story.
    Long live socialism.


    Posted by Brian February 26, 09 04:02 PM
  1. You nailed it . EEI is a monopoly. Boston , Springfield , Providence , etc.
    Given a real choice , fans would have a mass exodus from this loud , obnoxious, ranting crap. Ordway and his " friends " make the station too hard to listen to anymore. Bring back Eddie !

    Posted by john c February 26, 09 04:03 PM
  1. It has gotten to the point, I voted for Obama just to piss Callahan off.

    Posted by Tony February 26, 09 04:05 PM
  1. Listen -- for the best "radio" it's Sirius XM. For the best sports talk radio in Boston, it's PFW in Progress on Patriots.com.

    Posted by Ziggy Stardust February 26, 09 04:05 PM
  1. Felger was a highschool gymnast in Wisconsin, he hasn't the vaguest
    concept of football, or any other non-gymnastics sport.

    Sheppard is the dumbest human alive, narrowly saving Smerlas from
    the same title.

    Bill Burt doesn't know what day it is, Thanks-Dad-Burton adds nothing, and
    I-make-up-stuff Buckley [Nomar & the scorer anyone?] is as based in reality
    as his hair color.

    Posted by Phil February 26, 09 04:07 PM
  1. Fred Smerlas knows more about football than I do, so I'm not suggesting I could do what he does. But there are hundreds of players who retire every year that could give a more credible analysis than this sputtering oaf. It brings the discussion down when it involves trying to figure out how serious he is when he accuses NFL refs of cheating in favor of a Pats opponent. And his bigotry and homophobia are more offensive than his under-informed, infantile and hateful political opinions. There is zero chance Smerlas has any legitimate, irreplaceable appeal to any listeners that advertisers should bother to target.

    Posted by G. Scott February 26, 09 04:09 PM
  1. I totally agree with the gist of Finn's article. However, his article is poorly written. Most of his complaints are insignificant ones and do not carry the bluster of his premise. The Dale and Holly show is by far the most worthwhile program on the station. Ordway and his crew can be obnoxious and, in the case of Fred and Steve, as ignorant as fence posts sometimes. But they are harmless. Finn's comments on the morning team of D & C don't begin to describe just how hateful those guys are. They set discourse back about 50 years. Is there anyone clearly as racist as Callahan currently on the Boston airwaves? New England? The country? A most troubling aspect to me is that respected athletes and sports figures will appear on that show. Are they unaware of Callahan’s stance on all issues racial? Are they unaware of his other political views which are a football field to the right of Attila the Hun and backed-up with froth-inducing hate language and lies? I find it difficult to believe so. Boomer Esiason and Tom Brady and even Doc – what are you thinking by going on that program? Finn is right that we listen because we all want to hear about our great local teams and there is no real alternative. Give us a few years of terrible losing teams and WEEI will join them. That being said – Go Patriots! Go Red Sox! Go Celtics! Go Bruins!...

    Posted by Walter Kolosky February 26, 09 04:09 PM
  1. I guess I'm not your typical sports radio fan, I'm a 40 year old, college educated, mother of two who genuinely enjoys listening to WEEI. I LOVE Dennis and Calahan, and I think the Weener Winer Line is hilarious.
    This town makes me sick. It is full of arrogant hypocrits that somehow feel being a Bostonian entitles them to belittle anyone with a differing opinion. Just because WEEI approaches sports news in a lighter down to earth way doesn't mean its any less relevant. If you don't like it, don't listen. Get a life!

    Posted by Jean in Attleboro February 26, 09 04:10 PM
  1. Hats off to Phil (Comment # 602). Best commentary of the day. Just because something sells, doesn't mean it is something right. And comparing Mike Adams to Bob Gamere is priceless.

    Fire Sheppard. Now.

    Posted by The Greek February 26, 09 04:10 PM
  1. It's about time someone brought this up. As a radio broadcaster, it sickens me to listen to people who know nothing about sports while trying to quench my thirst for sports debate. In the past year, I bought Sirius radio and started listening to ESPN Radio and the sports talk on those stations because I just couldn't deal with the yelling and screaming on WEEI. These men are the typical big mouths of Boston, the ones who cater to their own-described "pink hats" of Boston. You do not represent the Boston fan. Please EEI, find someone that does and do it before people start realizing what these men are.

    Posted by nib12 February 26, 09 04:11 PM
  1. Wow, for those of you who don't enjoy WEEI or have supposedly stopped listening to it, you sure have a lot to say and seem to know a lot about it. ... Saying it's all there is and there's no choices is a cry-baby cop-out. ... Furthermore, if there's such hatred of all things WEEI at the Globe, then why are they teasing WEEI Red Sox interviews in their Sox online section? These aren't paid advertisements -- is WEEI management aware that the Globe is ripping them off, just like they did Gatehouse Media online news stories? .. Such hypocrites!

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 04:11 PM
  1. I listen to WEEI at work and it makes the day go by quickly. They have interviews and access to some of the most sought-after and interesting sports figures around and they don't take themselves too seriously.

    The work they do for the Jimmy Fund, Curts Pitch and other charities impress me the most. Chad get a grip, its entertainment not the WSJ.

    Posted by Barbara in Easton February 26, 09 04:12 PM
  1. I moved to Mike and Mike in the morning because D&C are blatant right wingers with no idea what they are talking about, not to mention the fact that they are racists. I wish the station would take them off because I prefer to listen to local sports but Mike and Mike are funny and I enjoy the show.

    Posted by Tim Goosage February 26, 09 04:12 PM
  1. Dennis & Callahan - One's a conservative republican with a forehead the size of the hatchshell - the other's a 60 something sports anchor (who spent his entire career on tv in 3rd place in a 3 station market) put them together and hilarity ensues. Funny, I think WEEI was the only media outlet in Boston last week that did not report on Joe the Gorilla's Birthday. I wonder why?

    Dale & Holley - Dale broadcasts the Patriots - THEY STINK - Dale leaves, Patriots start reeling off Super Bowl titles - one can only hope that the Bruins have the same good luck. Holley - there was much hope for him - but he sold out and went all LCD on us.

    The Big Show - I was in the car today and Glenny went on and on explaining the history of radio to everyone who could hear his voice. Walleye Zolak, Paul Perillo (I think he works for the Mendon PennySaver) and Pete all chimed in and told Glenn what a spectacular job he's doing.

    Glenn, if your format is so successful would'nt Entercomm want to copy it and take it Nationwide? If yes, why is the Entercomm stock price hovering at about $1.50 a share?

    Planet Mikey - Where do you start with this talentless wigwearing hump. What can you say about a 50 something year old man who ADMITTED in the Boston Globe that he spent nearly every night of his life for two years in a barroom?

    Glenn, your doing the lords work keep it up.

    Posted by EddiesCoveredInDuckSauceAgain February 26, 09 04:12 PM
  1. Dennis & Callahan - One's a conservative republican with a forehead the size of the hatchshell - the other's a 60 something sports anchor (who spent his entire career on tv in 3rd place in a 3 station market) put them together and hilarity ensues. Funny, I think WEEI was the only media outlet in Boston last week that did not report on Joe the Gorilla's Birthday. I wonder why?

    Dale & Holley - Dale broadcasts the Patriots - THEY STINK - Dale leaves, Patriots start reeling off Super Bowl titles - one can only hope that the Bruins have the same good luck. Holley - there was much hope for him - but he sold out and went all LCD on us.

    The Big Show - I was in the car today and Glenny went on and on explaining the history of radio to everyone who could hear his voice. Walleye Zolak, Paul Perillo (I think he works for the Mendon PennySaver) and Pete all chimed in and told Glenn what a spectacular job he's doing.

    Glenn, if your format is so successful would'nt Entercomm want to copy it and take it Nationwide? If yes, why is the Entercomm stock price hovering at about $1.50 a share?

    Planet Mikey - Where do you start with this talentless wigwearing hump. What can you say about a 50 something year old man who ADMITTED in the Boston Globe that he spent nearly every night of his life for two years in a barroom?

    Glenn, your doing the lords work keep it up.

    Posted by EddiesCoveredInDuckSauceAgain February 26, 09 04:13 PM
  1. I got XM over a year ago and never looked back. Great to see I made the right decision

    Posted by Schmutzig February 26, 09 04:14 PM
  1. Thank you, Chad - I've been feeling this way for years! I'm looking for intelligent sports analysis... not ratings-driven hooplah. Nor am I interested in hearing sports commentators talk about politics - I can get that elsewhere. I rarely listen to the station anymore which is sad... too bad it's the only game in town.

    Posted by Jim February 26, 09 04:14 PM
  1. You sir are a moron and an arrogant pompous man. How dare you call the listeners of the station the lowest common denominator of a sports fan. How dare you call the listeners less than sophisticated. What makes you think you are any better than any of them, because you work for the globe. I believe your little baseball analogy at the top fits more with you than their listeners. It seems to me,as well as, a majority of the people who wrote here today, that you at your boring sports department is starting to realize that you all are outdated and need to open your eyes and take the silver spoon out of your mouth. First get your facts straight, if I were your editor, you may be looking for a job in the morning... Second, are you that none existent to the globe readers, as well as, sports patrons of New England that you need to sink this low to get your name out there. Do some real work and get off the bashing, because that will get you no where and will probably make you look more pathetic in the end. I live out here in southern California after having spent the majority of my life in New England. I can tell you the people of this area would love to have something on the radio that resembles what the people at WEEI put together on the air. Mr. Finn, you are pretty transparent in your motives and actions and I also question the validity of your credentials as a newspaper writer, let alone a sports writer. To the unintelligent-who-think-they-are intelligent critiques of the station, YOU DON'T GET IT AND YOU NEVER WILL. I always respond back to critiques of any matter, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT YOU HERE THAN TURN IT OFF. CHANGE THE DIAL... But it appears you all keep turning in for some reason, go figure, it's like sheep leading sheep and Mr. Finn, you are in there.

    And by the way, let us not forget that some of your comrades there at the Globe, have had an intricate part of the station in the past, and would continue to be if it were it not for the big wigs at the Globe being scared. I also put into question the validity of your little poll considering the majority of responses you received here today.

    Signed, Apparently the-Less-Sophisticated-lowest-common-denominator sports fan, but I damn sure make more money and hold more power than you ignorant, uniformed, over-privileged, unhappy, Globe radical.

    Posted by Rick February 26, 09 04:15 PM
  1. I live north of Boston....great sports radio on 900 am nashua.

    Posted by davidfromlowell February 26, 09 04:16 PM
  1. Wow, what a response. I have to tell you I was driving from 2:45 to 3:30 and guess what they were talking about on the Big Show, this column, what a shock. Not sports, not even politics. I will admit that I usually listen to EEI on the way to and from work, and often in the afternoon between appointments. But, I find myself often switching to BZ or ESPN (Mike and Mike) in the morning not just because I disagree with Callahan, but because of the way his political views intrude, he feels the need to grab any opportunity, no matter how insignificant, to make fun of Obama. I don't mind that his politics are often opposite of mine, I can live with that, it is just often so mean spirited and unecessary. The mid-day guys are great, even the late afternoon guys are interesting and knowledgeable when they are not shouting at each other, and they NEVER listen to the callers, never let them complete a full sentence or complete an idea. And I can't stand Smerlas. Talk about your lowest common denominator. When I hear him I change the station. When the guy talks football he's actually bearable. But otherwise, he's like that kid we all knew who when he realizes he can't win an arguement calls you a name "oh ya...well, you suck!" Grow up. Look, I have listened since day one and I often find EEI entertaining. I exercise my right to change stations when they are not.

    Posted by Steven Goldberg February 26, 09 04:16 PM
  1. Most of you people need to lighten up. The Big Show is what keeps you awake during those long commute hours on the expressway. You owe them your lives.
    Long stretches of Bob Costas types would horrendous. Thanks Big O, you definitely do it right !!!!

    Posted by DJC Rhode Island February 26, 09 04:17 PM
  1. I was quite happily surprised to read this Article this afternoon. I have tried to listen to this station because I also just love sports, but I rarely tune in anymore because the characters on the Air are just too hardto stomach. The hosts in the morning are just outrageous and insulting, and the BIG show is usually unbearable unless they on occasion have an interesting guest from the outside.
    I am a true Boston fan but I also travel through NE and in the past I very much enjoyed listening to the FAN in NY. Mike and Chris in the afternoons had a wonderful show, and I was always amazed how well they dealt with their callers, the hosts on EEI just ignorantly attack, belittle and denigrate any caller who presents another view point or opinion which they don't like. Its disgusting and I would think harmful to the station.

    Posted by Fran February 26, 09 04:18 PM
  1. "This is why the undustry is losing out to satellite and the internet."

    uhhh sirius just filed for chapter 11.

    good bid

    Posted by ktabz February 26, 09 04:19 PM
  1. I hope Fly Freddy Smerlas and his right-hand man XXXL DeOssie stuff you in a locker, Dilweed.

    Posted by The Big Du'oh February 26, 09 04:20 PM
  1. This guy hit the nail on the head multiple times. These guys just yell and get by on the fact they are up against zero competition. Long live homer radio.

    Posted by Mark February 26, 09 04:22 PM
  1. That's why I stopped listening. Thanks for having the guts to write this.

    Posted by Iggy February 26, 09 04:23 PM
  1. 1. BA-hahahaha I love these conservatives who somehow connect imagined dots that WEEI is defendable b/c somehow its a voice for anti-liberals and all this WEEI bashing is just Liberals whining.. You like sports radio because it defends right wing thinking.... HUH???
    That's like saying "Apples are much better meat than pine cones."

    YOU ARE the exact reason why people rail against this format. Your beligerant "-isms" have tainted a water once fresh.

    2. To steveh (#424) As Big O would say.. "Your making... my.. point!" ( #387)

    You must feel like Chad Finn is attacking all things New England, what a traitorous bastard! Although you are the lowest common denomenator for which the station caters to (God bless Capitalism), you can't see the forest through the trees, buddy. Its not about the programming success, its how little relevance the actual topics are and passed off as brilliant because the numbers say so.

    I have heard other markets sports shows, they are generally bad. Wahooism and lack of real intelligence. I think somewhere in between WEEI and these other market shows is where the majority of sports fans want their stations to be. WEEI like all dynasties lose touch with reality after a while. Look no further than Pete Sheppard as proof of its own arrogance. He bloviates about Marconi's won as proof of their dominance (totally irrelevant to the actual arguement) and this is the same guy who goes on another station as a guest totally unprepared (on a subject he has no business talking about). WEEI is in denial.


    Posted by Matt in Weymouth February 26, 09 04:24 PM
  1. Wow, for those of you who don't enjoy WEEI or have supposedly stopped listening to it, you sure have a lot to say and seem to know a lot about it. ... Saying it's all there is and there's no choices is a cry-baby cop-out. ... Furthermore, if there's such hatred of all things WEEI at the Globe, then why are they teasing WEEI Red Sox interviews in their Sox online section? These aren't paid advertisements -- is WEEI management aware that the Globe is ripping them off, just like they did Gatehouse Media online news stories? .. Such hypocrites!

    Posted by Joe February 26, 09 04:24 PM
  1. To the WEEI defenders (and to WEE hosts): instead of calling Chad Finn a "hack" or "jealous", or citing your ratings (which are largley due to Boston's devoted fan base and your strong signal rather than your radio skills) - how about you tell us where he's wrong?

    Posted by Jason Sheep February 26, 09 04:24 PM
  1. This article typifies liberal condescension towards the average American. Im sorry you feel that way about Bostonians, Chad. I'll try to make your coffee better tomorrow moring, but what do I know? Im just a backward, caveman conservative with a Tommy Bahama shirt who clings to guns and religion and WEEI. Other sports radio channels have been attempted over the years, but failed miserably. That their failures were soley due to weak signals is an absolutely ridiculous contention, bordering on outright falsehood. No one listened to the alternatives, even people who live closer than your million dollar home in Concord, Chad. WEEI is hugely popular, and not because people have no alternative, as you'd have us believe. Face it, the Globe is becoming less and less relevant in local news and sports. This blog reads as a last bitter grasp for air from a dying medium. I'd have thought even the Globe would be above this garbage, but apparently not. Why don't you come out and state yor real problem with WEEI, that the morning hosts are conservative? You only devoted a few lines at the end of your blog to state your real problem, that they hold a different viewpoint than you but they are relevant and you need to listen to stay relevant as a sports commentator. Sour grapes and vitriol hiding behind big words, Chad.

    Posted by John February 26, 09 04:25 PM
  1. In today's technology age, anyone can invent his own sports radio station via podcasts, streaming audio, etc. Pick and choose what you like or even create your own show. Commercial radio is finished.

    Posted by John February 26, 09 04:25 PM
  1. I couldn't agree more with Chad. His post was genius. I actually don't think he went far enough in his criticism. I also feel strongly that Michael Felger should have his own show. I wonder what station management is thinking on days like today when Felger is killing it in the morning and tomorrow...

    Posted by Jeff February 26, 09 04:25 PM
  1. Except for the Dennis and Hannity show in the morning, I find the other WEEI shows informative AND entertaining. Some of the shows on the other stations I also find informative, but I also can be put to sleep. ... I think it is a shame that the Globe has banned its' employees from appearing on WEEI because of offensine remarks blurted out by one of their columnists (Ron Borges), who is no londer there. It's funny, but I remember in the old days of "The Sports Huddle", Eddie Andleman was one of the most pompous Tlak show hosts in history. If you didn't agree with him, you either were insulted or hung up on.

    Posted by anthony February 26, 09 04:26 PM
  1. Tony, I see you too couldn't find a legit reason to vote for Obama - but like all the others, you did it anyway.

    Rock on WEEI!

    Posted by Jean February 26, 09 04:28 PM
  1. Right on Chad!! WEEI in general is a huge success because of their genius marketing and management. If Glen Ordway flew away tomorrow their ratings would not skip a beat. These hosts think it's all about them and their "knowledge". ha ha ha ha ha Yeah it takes real skill and talent to yell and scream and talk over one another and the callers. Hilarious!! They love to tell us how educated their audience is at WEEI. Well this is one college grad who speaks in complete sentences and spends a limited amount of time listening to WEEI. I'm a huge sports fan but even I don't need their mindless drivel.

    Posted by Mike66 February 26, 09 04:28 PM
  1. wgam 900 am the best sports radio in ne.

    Posted by davefromlowell February 26, 09 04:28 PM
  1. wgam 900 am the best sports radio in ne.

    Posted by davefromlowell February 26, 09 04:28 PM
  1. "Brother radio" indeed.

    You must be a D&C fan.

    Posted by toots February 26, 09 04:28 PM
  1. I could not agree more with this article. (Did I write this??)

    Posted by John K February 26, 09 04:29 PM
  1. Chad,
    Thanks for the plug with "The Diehards" on 1510. I agree that Russillo and Anik were great to listen to. I will be the first to tell you that I didn't belong on air, but it wasn't my call as an employee of Sporting News Radio so I just made the best of it. For the record I didn't buy the time as someone indicated, but I would be happy to sell people time that think hosting a sports talk radio show in Boston is easy. Call me at WWZN and you too can be a sports radio personality.
    Pepe-former Diehard host and former EEI Waterboy

    Posted by Pepe-the off air promotions guy February 26, 09 04:30 PM
  1. I know that most of my male friends, family members & customers listen to EEI on a regular basis. I know this because it's often the topic of discussion when we get together. I also know that most of those same people stopped reading the Globe long ago...Perhaps you & the Globe might take a lesson from EEI before you're all in the unemployment line...

    Posted by BWW February 26, 09 04:33 PM
  1. Program Schedule at WEEI:
    12:00AM 6:00AM Fox Sports
    6:00AM 10:00AM Dennis & Callahan
    10:00AM 2:00PM Dale & Holley
    2:00PM 6:00PM The Big Show
    6:00PM 8:30PM Planet Mikey
    8:30PM 12:00AM Celtics vs. Nuggets

    Oh so it's a FOX NEWS CHANNEL Affiliate... Explains a lot!

    Posted by lolipopp February 26, 09 04:34 PM
  1. Chad, I'm not always the biggest fan of your writing, but I couldn't agree with you more on this. The only program I can even stand to listen to anymore is Dale & Holley, and that is on during neither drive time. When I get in the car in the morning, it's usually the "headlines" segment, so I just flip right over to Mike & Mike and listen to them until I get to work. In the afternoon it's either the end of the Big Show or, God help us, the beginning of Planet Mikey, so I do everything I can to listen to actual sports talk on 890 with Lou & Mike and also hope Rusillo is on that day. While were at it, can we get rid of "celtics expert" Gary Tanguay? Thanks for bringing to light something I bet a lot of us feel

    Posted by Chris February 26, 09 04:34 PM
  1. I'm just happy I have the ability to not listen to them, which is something I do with increasing regularity.

    Who needs the Putt-Putt Twins and their Metco gorilla garbage when you have Kadolfo and Joe Joe Weiss, never. Recap correct.

    BTW: Pro-WEEI trolls, if you can take a break from your assinine Howie the Hostage imitations, could you please remind Mikey Adams that Manny is not on the Red Sox. He seems confused.

    Posted by Bruce's Crowd February 26, 09 04:35 PM
  1. Wow...talk about an arrogant piece of garbage. If you don't like it don't tune in...or better yet, have the courage to get involved in a venture that provides competition. Others have taken Chad's high-brow advice and have no ratings to show for it. Sorry if you think Dan Sahaugnessy pontificating about the loss of Babe Ruth or Charlie Pierce talking about Obama playing hoops is entertaining but the rest of us cavemen don't find bow-tied sports talk overly exciting.

    Posted by BL February 26, 09 04:36 PM
  1. bravo! seriously...Callahan is such a bigot, that as a black man, im happy to listen to him in the morning on my way to work. He pisses me off so much, that i know for the rest of the day, nothing will even bother me.Angry customers? Micro-managing boss? Lovable angels.

    Posted by jay February 26, 09 04:36 PM
  1. Sounds like a lot of people who haven't heard sports talk radio elsewhere. My only complaint is the callers. I don't understand why people need to call in with ways to fix the Bruins, Celtics or another other winning Boston team. I dont need to hear it.
    WEEI, is the best that the country has to offer. Otherwise,TURN THE STATION!!!!

    Posted by Tom February 26, 09 04:37 PM
  1. There are two reasons for EEI's success
    1. Sox, Pats, and C's have created a run of spectacular success never seen in sports history.
    2. No viable alternative.
    It's amusing and sickening that Ordway, Der Fuhrer Callahan, and Sheppard (aka the luckiest man on Earth) think it stems from them. Boys, we listen IN SPITE OF YOU because we love sports. You'd better hope that Belicheck never retires and the Sox never sink into mediocrity, or your ratings will reveal what people really think of you.

    Posted by joez February 26, 09 04:39 PM
  1. That was AWESOME!!!!!

    Posted by scolaurmag February 26, 09 04:41 PM
  1. I spend a lot of time on the road commuting and to be honest I am spending more time away from EEI and more with ESPN not to mention the IPOD, however, EEI is decent but the personalities are a bit much not to mention the fact that many times they talk and shout over a caller which is why ESPN is a better listen.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 04:43 PM
  1. I cannot STAND Felger. Whiny and obnoxious. Dennis and Callahan can be absolutely unbearable with their pompous ass routine, especially when they start on politics (hey guys, it's SPORTS radio).

    Ordway et al. is a mixed bag. Sometimes they make interesting points. Other times it descends into a boring screamfest.

    Planet Mikey? Come on! Mikey is funny.

    Posted by JimR February 26, 09 04:44 PM

  1. i can only take the station in small doses. Glen stop
    shouting over everybody. I do like Sheppard though.
    Dale and Holly are the worst show on WEEI, they are
    very boring and if I do listen to the station, I changed the
    channel between 10 & 2.

    Posted by Colin February 26, 09 04:46 PM
  1. You are right on point, Chad. The pseudo political crap in the morning and the windbag that is Ordway are the reasons that I went to XM . there , I can go back and forth between several diverse stations, as well as live play by play. I liked WEEI better when Paul Benziquin and Jim Westover were on..... you may not have agreed with them, but at least you could get your point across more often than not.... Also... they knew something about politics

    Some of these posts remind me of some of what Bill Russell alluded to in his earlier days regarding the intolerence that some have in this area.

    Posted by Marvelous Mark February 26, 09 04:48 PM
  1. The listeners who call are idiots!

    Posted by steveh February 26, 09 04:51 PM
  1. dale arnold has a keen sense for the obvious- what insight. hang'em up dale. Michael Holley bring a big , big, goose egg to the table - and condescending to boot. I never listen to mid day show- it is torture. Holley dresses like a homeless guy too.

    Posted by Larry February 26, 09 04:55 PM
  1. As someone who loves WEEI....unfortunately I have to agree. More and more I find myself turning the dial when D&C and the Big Mouth Show are on. There lack of respect for callers with a different opinion and im better than everybody attitude is more than I can handle on my morning and afternoon commute. That being said...Dale and Holley is a perfect example of fine sports radio, and The Planet Mikey Show is always entertaining. Boston fans love sports and will always tune in...but nothing is perfect and there is always room for improvement. Keep what works, ditch what doesnt. Since when did offending people become good radio?

    Posted by JC February 26, 09 04:57 PM
  1. I don't understand how anyone could listen to the morning show on EEI and I am a constant listener of the station. I made a conscious decision not to ever listen to them again when they were mocking the male students for not taking a stand against the gunmen during the Virginia Tech massacre, the day after the shootings.

    Posted by The morning show sucks February 26, 09 04:57 PM
  1. i listen to sports radio for entertainment purposes only. the people that call in to sports radio providers of this. just look at the donkeys that call into the big show. they mostly are complete tools that know nothing about sports and they seem to feel that they need to call in to the so-called experts. The co-hosts are in such competition with each other it ridiculous. they constantly bash the other co-hosts when they're not on the air just like a bunch of broads.

    Posted by vjr123 February 26, 09 04:58 PM
  1. Chad,
    You are so right - it seems like you read my mind for the past year. I do regret that WEEI with that 'strong signal' is our single option - but they have perfected the understanding of who's its majority audience. It is not, unfortunately, me or the Chad Finns of New England. So, while you and I are both frustrated, they should be recognized for savvy business marketing that makes them #1.

    I think your biggest problem, which I share, is with the lack of an emerging strategy for a sports station to invest in the sports fan you describe, with a strong signal. Sports fans like us are in New England en masse, and have no opportunity to get our sports fix via a programming menu that caters to our preference.

    I have to note that the political talk is very annoying and I turn the dial everytime it comes on in the morning - at that time, I'm done for the day with WEEI.

    Let me know if you need help launching a viable alternative - I'm game! (no pun intended). Thanks for venting and bringing this up.

    Posted by Everything New England February 26, 09 05:00 PM
  1. i listed to weei on the west coast(online)....i don't get up early enough to hear D&C which is quite fine by me. i don't subscribe to their type of sports radio talk. Dale and Holley are great. They compliment each other nicely. I actually enjoy the Mikey adams show sometimes...when he's not acting too goofy and doing his schtick. i think Lenny Megs and John Ryder are great for the show..i think John Ryder should probably have his own show. heard lenny and ryder doing a show in mikeys' absence and they were fantastic. I agree with some of the points regarding some of the over the top yelling and screaming but compared to other sports talk radio across the country...weei is pretty good.

    Posted by Bobby February 26, 09 05:00 PM
  1. Amen

    Posted by todd azadian February 26, 09 05:02 PM
  1. Talk about cleansing the soul! Who knew there were so many of us!

    Don't just read the comments, add one. Maybe if enough people "come out of the closet" they'll realize the ratings have nothing to do with the two morons in the morning and they'll be replaced with a sports program.

    Posted by Amen February 26, 09 05:02 PM
  1. Way to create a stir. What are the odds Callahan calls you a "punk" tomorrow?

    Posted by RocksInHerHead February 26, 09 05:02 PM
  1. isn't sheppard still a flash boy?

    Posted by vjr123 February 26, 09 05:03 PM
  1. I respect your opinion but you wrote a pretty poor article. Do you get paid by the Globe? If so, do they still have editors?

    Posted by Chris February 26, 09 05:04 PM
  1. Article is right on the money. WEEI's programming sucks hard.

    Posted by SMELLtheBACON February 26, 09 05:04 PM
  1. Right on! Thank you for writing this -- could not agree more.

    Posted by osborn cox February 26, 09 05:06 PM
  1. The listeners who call are idiots mos tof the time thats why they get treated that way.
    and gerrycallahan isnt a bigot. everytime someone calls up and says you guys picked on a black man or african aamerican or whatever is correct now. then you all agree.
    barry bonds is a lying soon to be criminal who CHEATED GET OVER IT.
    just like roger clemens, rafael palmiero and yes A-Rod. if you cant face facts go away. I cannot stand you callers who call and say we treat Barry Bonds different because of his skin color. teah like roger clemens got away scott free right , suuuree. If tom brady got caught juicing youd be all over it.
    and dont bring up the parka incident, in my opinion they did nothing wrong. they never once mentioned a color or race of anyone but because someone felt that they had some kinf of mind reading crap, that it was racist. Bull. im sick of the fake racist accusations against boston and our sports.

    Posted by steveh February 26, 09 05:07 PM
  1. Maybe Chad is just really jealous because the media outlet he works for is hemorrhaging money, whereas EEI has a sucessful business model.

    Posted by IM February 26, 09 05:08 PM
  1. I listen to WEEI during the day, because I find Dale and Holley to be educated and entertaining. And 'EEI on summer evenings when Joe Castig does the Red Sox games? A slice of heaven (I wish Jerry Troup was still working with Joe on the games though). The rest of the time I can't stand 'EEI: In the morning it is the Bigot and the Windbag show (Callahan, you have NO CLUE about politics, but don't let that stop you from spewing your hate!), and in the afternoons, the idiots talking over themselves gives me a headache.

    Sports announcers in this tiwn? Boston, we are spoiled with Joe Castig, Don and Remy, Gil Santos... I travel quite a bit, and our local guys are head and shoulders above the announcers in other cities. But our drive-time sports radio is really really poor....

    Posted by pete February 26, 09 05:09 PM
  1. Great, long overdue, story........But you failed to nail the real culprits.
    WEEI's General Manager and Program Manager who have not had the good sense to manage the talent (?) and rein in the Limbaugh-like ranting of Callahan!

    Posted by Bob Schostek February 26, 09 05:09 PM
  1. Jerry Callahan is an arrogant, pompous, jerk who would have been right at home in the 14th century. John Dennis is an elitist swinehoont. Dale and Holley are as flat and dry as an Oklalhoma road. The Big Show is nothing more than bar room blather without the benefit of alcohol and cleavage baring barmaids. Yet through all this they make a lot of money and appeal,evidently, to advertisers and their target groups. If the choice is listen or turn the station, turn the station, but success in a capitalist society is measured in dollars not ethics or intelligence.

    Posted by Brian February 26, 09 05:09 PM
  1. Bye-Bye Globe WEEI will be around a lot longer than you will!

    Posted by Jackson February 26, 09 05:12 PM
  1. After reading how many of us can't stand WEEI, can I suggest Lew and Mike on ESPN in the afternoons. They are smart and funny. For my money, Mike Valle is the most interesting person on Boston sports talk radio. I don't know why they haven't won a lot of converts. Perhaps ESPN doesn't do a good enough job of promoting itself. I wish they would find a morning alternative to Hitler and Goebbels in the morning. Bring back Andy Gresh!

    Posted by scottyb1954 February 26, 09 05:13 PM
  1. I wish there was more competition. I must say I've always enjoyed Mike Adams though...his comedic talent & his sports knowledge are underrated. Gerry Callahan also has much sports knowledge, but his political views are ugly, unpatriotic (wanting Obama to fail), & really shows a lot of stupidity. Dale & Holley too vanilla for me...really enjoy Felger, Lenny Megs, Pete Shepard, Craig Mustard (missed)...& Lou Merloni is doing Framingham proud...Go Lou!!

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 05:14 PM
  1. two words = satellite radio

    you'll never need anything else

    Posted by drew February 26, 09 05:15 PM
  1. Comparing WEEI to Caddyshack is an insult to Caddyshack and Caddyshack fans everywhere. Here's what Carl Spackler would recommend doing to someone like Joe, who posted earlier:

    "What you've got to do is cut the hamstring on the back of his leg right at the bottom. He'll never play golf again because his weight displacement
    goes back all his weight is on his right foot and he'll push everything off to the right. He'll never come through on anything. He'll quit the game."

    Posted by Ty Webb February 26, 09 05:15 PM
  1. Completely agree with the article. I won't even listen to morning show anymore because I can't stand being forced to listen to the extremem right-wing political view of Callahan and that Pompous John Dennis! Its like listening to Fraser talk sports radio in between headlines and putting callers down who call up to argue with Gerry's politics (But then are muted and humiliated without chance for rebuttal). No thanks, I listen to 1510 in the morning because they actually talk about SPORTS!

    Posted by RT February 26, 09 05:15 PM
  1. More Left wing nutjobs - Ban everybody that doesn't agree with us! Bring on the Fairness doctrine!

    Posted by Jackson February 26, 09 05:16 PM
  1. Mustard and Johnson was the best show on WEEI!! Bring them back!

    Posted by The Brad February 26, 09 05:17 PM
  1. Finn is both right and wrong. First of all, don't insult the listenership as lowest common denominator. We're just trying to savor the good parts of WEEI and suffer the bad parts. Finn is right about the screaming and yelling during The Big Show with The BIg O. It can give you a headache. Smerlas bugged me and he appears to have been replaced. On the flip side, the callers are usually educated and spirited sports fans. Some are downright hysterical. Even my wife loves the Weiner Whiner Line. Other posters (and Finn) have rightfully noted the quality of Dale Arnold and Michael Holley. Educated discussion and good rapport. I avoid Dennis and Callahan like the plague. Callahan is a mean, rightwing SOB. So WEEI....there are some elements of truth in the article as well as some things that are unfair. Take a stock a little bit....that's all.

    Posted by Jeff February 26, 09 05:18 PM
  1. I respect your opinion but you wrote a pretty poor article. Do you get paid by the Globe? If so, do they still have editors?

    Posted by Chris February 26, 09 05:18 PM
  1. So let me get this straight....a tired washed up out of date news source called newspaper is attacking a refreshing, still viable technology that has aligned better than any newspapers website with online. What A joke. We ARE lucky to have WEEI and I should know, Ive lived in many places. Sure winning helps drive ratings, but even if we weren't we'd be bitching on WEEI. This is a politics sports and revenge town. In that order. You must have be from somewhere else, been dissed by them or this wouldnt even be a topic. Since the globe targets older adults, who probably think reading the globe online makes them hip, of course they are going to be negative on sports radio which focuses on A 18-454.

    Only reason I come to this times rag is FOR THE SPORTS! Otherwise you can have your liberal piece of garbage rag called the globe. Nice topic...sports guy from a newsrag attacking sports guys from radio. That's rich.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 05:19 PM
  1. Sports Radio is thriving and the newspaper sports pages are obsolete. There was a time when I started my with the Sports page, now it is literally yesterdays news.
    Sports radio is fresh, opinionated, entertaining, and will be around in a year. The sports page is old, boring, and will not exist unless it changes in a year. Denver just lost it's News Paper today, and the Times is broke.

    Posted by 57-states February 26, 09 05:21 PM
  1. I'm not going to repeat all the comments about EEI...but I want to add to the number of posts. Dale and Holley (with an emphasis on Holley) are the only reason to listen to this station, with its "affluent and educated" listeners, as some advertiser who clearly doesn't hear the double negatives and wrong verb tenses. I remember Ordway coming home from the Super Bowl with the Eagles; he spent at least a week ridiculing the Philadelphia sportscasters, who used long A all the time. Sounded like they were in kindergarten reading Dick and Jane, said he. Listen to him now...(well, don't but if you did) HE sounds like he's reading Dick and Jane. Now I'm getting petty. Stop listening. Life gets better.

    Posted by fran February 26, 09 05:22 PM
  1. hey tesla marconi-- talk about a laugh, satellite radio is beating out reguar radio???
    Was that before or after the forced merger of the two GIANTS in satellitel radio, which experts say will die anyway within the next year since they owe more than 200 million. Yeah, satellite rules. lol
    What a joke.

    Posted by steveh February 26, 09 05:22 PM
  1. Funny to hear Steve Deossie complain about Obama's tax hikes when he owes tens of thousands in tax liens against his property.

    Posted by Segway February 26, 09 05:23 PM
  1. It’s a very frustrating radio station. All I want is sports scores and intelligent conversation. I’m tired of radio sports host who feel the station is their chance to shove their politics down your throat. Or use the airways to get free stuff from by hyping some business. It would be amazing to see these people with real jobs. I got a subscription to satellite radio just so I could hear real sports scores and talk. Try it! If there was an alternative sports station out of Boston with a strong enough signal, I would tune in.

    Posted by Tom February 26, 09 05:25 PM
  1. A Globe writer calling another media outlet as arrogant, pompous silver-spooners! Thats rich! What was that old saying about calling the kettle black?

    Posted by Brian O. February 26, 09 05:28 PM
  1. I have an idea....why don't all you EEI bashing, NPR listening, latte drinking, liberal elitiest jerks pony up some money together to start your own Obama loving sports station....you know, a sports equivalent of Air America. Maybe you can be on a few days longer than Air America was.

    Posted by sox phan February 26, 09 05:28 PM
  1. Just a matter of time before Chad Finn puts in a "special guest appearence" on one of the WEEI shows. Don't let Finn fool ya. ALL of the Boston sports media have a very incestuous relationship. Wouldn't surprise me if Finn and Ordway go out for drinks tonight and yuck it up about how they got the fans all riled up over this.........don't be played

    Posted by Butch February 26, 09 05:29 PM
  1. The amusing thing about Gerry Callahan is that he doesn't realize how completely ineffectual he is. Ever since the attacks of Sept. 11th, he has been parroting the infantile Fox News/Ann Coulter/Rush Limbaugh talking points of hateful, anti-Democrat rhetoric. And despite his convictions, his relentlessness and the #1 rated drive time show in the state, we've seen control of the Congress switch hands from Republicans to Democrats, seen the Mass State house switch hands from Republican to Democrat and, ultimately, the White House switch hands from Republican to Democrat. The more he screams into the wind, the more Mass. Residents and Americans repudiate his opinions and beliefs.

    Posted by Barstool Sports February 26, 09 05:33 PM
  1. I love this, such elitist crap, im literally laughing to death.
    i love the guy who said this is so "off-putting".
    "Off-putting" my god man. did the tea and crumpets show up burned. are you in the doldrums following a smashing criket game that went all topsy turvy. lol
    Wow, what a joke.
    people pretending to be sports fans, when we all know the majority of sports fans are eer swilling pizza eating bar flys who yell, and curse and show passion. not the morons who sho wup in the 4th inning and leave afterthe fifth . what a joke. get the audi out of your butt,.

    Posted by steveh February 26, 09 05:33 PM
  1. Briefly listened to Ordway's dissection of this story today. As expected, his critique was sometimes salient and spot-on (EEI has four very different main shows), but mostly he and his on-air sychophants nit-picked at tertiary points (1510 used to be the big cheese in town) and suggested that Chad, "do his research." Research an opinion? But that's how Glenn rationalizes his points. Glenn being Glenn.
    I understand why Chad would do this story. It's valid and relevant.
    But it's also like trying to prove a negative or, better yet, spinning the tires in sand.

    EEI has big market potential. NE sports fans are passionate and like to be informed. So EEI offers a product to capitalize on the market potential.
    Some like it, some don't. EEI's numbers are fantastic, and the above posts tell us that although EEI has its fans, it also has its detractors.
    But enough listeners like EEI that it would be foolish to change.
    The Metco thing aside, would I really expect Entercom to dump D&C just because Finn and I can't stand the show? Absolutely not.
    Should Entercom dump Ordway because the only way he can support a point is by interrupting others and cutting off callers so he can rationalize his points? If people keep listening, why would Entercom dump him?
    Limbaugh is a good example. Sure he's polarizing. Those who hate him call him a liar, those who love him cling to his every word. He has a huge following. Why would you cancel his show?
    EEI is making money, hand over fist if we're to believe what we're told. (And I don't buy this notion that there's somehow something wrong with doing something to make money. The Globe runs stories to attract readers. EEI sets its programing to attract listeners. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. THAT'S BUSINESS!)
    If EEI followed your suggestions, Chad, it would risk massive market losses with the benefit of making you (and me) happy. Is that a good business model? Alienating thousands to make two people happy? No. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
    So to those who like EEI, keep listening. And don't apologize for it. To those who don't turn it off. It's really that simple.
    Someone someday might come along with a better product. But until that day, EEI has no reason to change.
    (I still don't understand what Pete Sheppard brings to the table.)

    Posted by Chris in Illinois February 26, 09 05:34 PM
  1. Simple answer to this problem. Get Sirius/XM Radio and listen to ESPN. That way you get insightful content. You do lose the local angle however. I only listen to EEI when something major happens on the local scene. Dont blame EEI, why change what works.

    Posted by BP February 26, 09 05:36 PM
  1. Preach on brother. Any station that sees fit to spring Bob Halloran on an unsuspecting audience tuning in and hoping for insight and commentary is a station that hates people in general and sports fans in particular.

    Sure WEEI has good ratings, but then people bought a lot of Trabants in Eastern Europe before the Berlin wall fell, too. Lack of legitimate competition doesn't mean your product has any merit, it just means the consumers have little choice.

    Posted by Emily Dennis' Secret Admirer February 26, 09 05:36 PM
  1. There is no doubt that Dennis and Callahan haven't gotten more extreme in their political diatribes and intolerant views....it used to be that Dennis was a contrarian foil at times for Callahan and their spirited disagreements were actually moderately entertaining in spite of Callahans right wing politics. That is not the case any more. If you want to listen to intelligent sports talk in the morning Mike and Mike on ESPN radio is so superior and more intelligent in all respects...from national sports to non sports related.....

    As far as the Big O, the big interrupter and belittler, and he does belittle callers and interviewees. Take the case of the pseudo journalist in CT who rattled Jim Calhoun earlier in the wk. The big O and the toadies Larry Johnson and Meathead Shepherd were cheering him on....as the O dominated the interview, barely letting the kid speak. Regardless of whether the kid was right to ask Calhoun the question/s he asked, he was sincere, has been interested in the topic of college sports and the money tree for a long time, and he was clever enough to get into that forum. I thought it was somewhat shameful the way the big O handled the interview....I am a fan of sports radio and EEI, but I have tuned out D and C and their today Meterparel, and listen more selectively to the big doughnut, who in my opinion is nothing more than a regional presence, w/ no credibility on national sports...Cheers for having the guts to post this story....as I listen to this afternoon's backpeddling and explaining by Big O...the first time he seems to be speaking in a civil tone to callers...

    Posted by HRmanatee February 26, 09 05:38 PM
  1. I absolutely 100 percent agree. Morning and afternoon drive is simply INTOLERABLE! I like Dale and Holley, but unfortunately rarely get to hear them since they're on at the end of the day. I recently purchased a new car with satellite radio in it and find myself listening to that 100 percent of the time. No more terrestrial radio for me. I'll listen to MLB home plate or the Mad Dog or even ESPN radio. Also, the music channels are better because I can actually hear rock and roll for once. I love the all-Springsteen channel. I don't miss EEI and the Big Show idiots one bit.

    Posted by a February 26, 09 05:38 PM
  1. I stopped listening to D&C years ago and have recently given up on the Big Show as well. I do not agree with D&C 's politics and the way in which they present their views, by belittling and demeaning those that do not agree with them. They are knee jerk conservatives. Quite Frankly their sports commentary is also quite infantile and sophomoric. They only want to cater to the lowest common denominator. The Big Show has become unlistenable. Ordway is a terrible host and the show frequently turns into "who can yell the loudest" Contest. Fred Smerlas may be the worst co-host in Boston. Either he is spewing his political opinions or trying to turn the show into an infomercial for his Steak House. In 2000 during the Gore-Bush election controversy he actually said he was getting his gun and going to Florida during the Last Call segment and nothing happened to him at all. He should have been booted for that comment. I like DeOssie when he sticks to sports but I agree he was much better when he was with 1510 and showed more class

    Still if people do not like the station just do what I did and don't listen! There are other places to get semi intelligent talk about Sports or Politics. As long as the ratings are high for EEI nothing is going to change and, quite frankly, why should they? They are in the business of making money and attracting listeners and they have done that better than their competitors. Some stop complaining and, simply, TUNE OUT!!!!!

    Posted by Say no to Smerlas February 26, 09 05:40 PM
  1. After reading this article, I put the Big Show on today. Plenty of people calling about the article -- all butt kissers, of course. Not one dissenting caller has been allowed so far..though it's only 5:40. so there's hope.

    Posted by Karen February 26, 09 05:40 PM
  1. Cannot stand D@C and that coming from a right winger, they are pompous, arrogant jerks who treat there callers like crap. Big O show is somewhat entertaining but also annoying with some of the idiot regular callers and whiner regulars. Also, Pete Sheppard is one of the most annoying "personalities" I have ever heard and how he has a job there is beyond me.

    Lew and Mike show down the isle is not too bad especially Lew.

    Posted by B February 26, 09 05:42 PM
  1. Chad, you are dead on! Those CLOWNS in the afternoon on WEEI are unbearable, unfortunately up until a few weeks ago every other afternoon drive show was the same until i found the likes of :Lew & Mike" on 890 ESPN! They are great, they dont yell and talk over each other and the caller, they allow the caller to state a point before jumping all over the person and "blowing them up", they don't have meat head callers like "Dakota from Braintree" making the dumbest comments ever, and lastly and most of all I don't have to listen to Fred Smerlas or Steve Diosi!

    Posted by Ryan February 26, 09 05:46 PM
  1. I have NOT listen to the morning show for several months now. Who wantes to listen to a racist and ignorant person talking about subjects that he has no clue of what he's talking about? Why can't the radio station find someone else and why does't the FCC take some action, including allowing onother station to compete with a 50 Megawatt? Like many others, I love my Boston sports and I missed the LJ and CM on Saturday's morning. Hope changes are coming soon the morning show.

    Posted by John February 26, 09 05:46 PM
  1. Well some of the denizens of the basements have commented, but It's clear by the sheer number of posts and the poll results that most people agree with Chad Finn. The sad part is that a really good sports station could be such a joy to listen to. Felger used to have Keith Law from Baseball Prospectus, as well as respected regular guest like Buster Olney and Peter Gammons. Let the shouters and haters keep EEI. Let's get an intelligent alternative out there over the air.

    Posted by Jim Gosger February 26, 09 05:49 PM
  1. Wow, well I've heard of the people on WEEI. I only know Chad Finn's name because they were talking about you on the radio. Maybe you should ask Glenn Ordway to give back half of his salary like that "journalist" in Connecticut.

    Posted by Patrick February 26, 09 05:59 PM
  1. Look, I hate Smerlas and Sheppard also. They are both halfwits who try and speak on subjects like baseball with no knowledge at all on the subject.
    However if you think Felger ever said anything inteligent, your CRAZY!! He is horrible to listen too and has no real insights. The best thing about him is his wife.

    Posted by Stuart D February 26, 09 06:00 PM
  1. Hey Chad, a bunch of us filthy hippie Marxists are all headed down to the Common to play some hackeysack later. You're welcome to join us....

    Boy, I hope we don't disturb any rock-ribbed Rotarians with our layabout nonsense! They've got a world to make go around!

    Don't forget your bow-tie, bud-day.

    Posted by Scott February 26, 09 06:01 PM
  1. Typical Globe writing...easy to write something negative about people that actually entertain a lot of us. How ironic the guy that brings up race the most Michael Holly gets praised by you. He is the only one who talks about the color of peoples skin...who cares what your skin color is DO YOUR JOB, whether its playing Quarterback, Forward, Centerfield, Mayor, Governor or President...DO YOUR JOB. I am so tired of hearing about skin color....no one notices if you just do the right thing in life...D&C, and the Big Show entertain a lot of us. If its not entertaining turn the dial

    Posted by Shel in Braintree February 26, 09 06:04 PM
  1. Does your impending new gas tax get this much attention on a blog?
    As a New Hampshire resident, I think we should seal our border with Massachusetts first.

    Posted by NoTorreUs February 26, 09 06:04 PM
  1. I listen to Dennis & Callahan every morning and I make no apologies for it. In fact, I try to time my Dunkin Donuts stop so I don't miss any of Headlines - the highest rated segment of the show, Chad.

    The other options on the radio in the morning are the convicted felon former Speaker of the House on WRKO, the pompous, unfunny Imas on WTKK or the oh so scintillating NPR. No thanks.


    Posted by Lauren February 26, 09 06:06 PM
  1. Does your impending new gas tax get this much attention on a blog?
    As a New Hampshire resident, I think we should seal our border with Massachusetts first.

    Posted by NoTorreUs February 26, 09 06:10 PM
  1. Did you know that WWZN-AM operates with the SAME amount of power as WEEI-AM...50,000 watts day and night? Both have reception problems outside of Metro Boston at night. WAMG-AM, referred to above as ESPN 890, transmits from sunrise to sunset with 25,000 watts on a desirable frequency with a highly-efficient (but also highly-directional...toward Boston) antenna system. there ARE signal issues, but not so dire as some people think. (I've received WWZN during the day in Pittsfield, MA, while WEEI couldn't be heard at all.)

    Posted by Laurence Glavin February 26, 09 06:12 PM
  1. The amusing thing about Gerry Callahan is that he doesn't realize how completely ineffectual he is. Ever since the attacks of Sept. 11th, he has been parroting the infantile Fox News/Ann Coulter/Rush Limbaugh talking points of hateful, anti-Democrat rhetoric. And despite his convictions, his relentlessness and the #1 rated drive time show in the state, we've seen control of the Congress switch hands from Republicans to Democrats, seen the Mass State house switch hands from Republican to Democrat and, ultimately, the White House switch hands from Republican to Democrat. The more he screams into the wind, the more Mass. Residents and Americans repudiate his opinions and beliefs.

    Posted by Barstool Sports February 26, 09 06:13 PM
  1. AMEN is right! He hit everything! I have Sirius so I don't have to listen to this crap anymore. Its to bad its not going to change anytime soon.

    Posted by Tommycheeseballs February 26, 09 06:17 PM
  1. I have a funny feeling Chad got a promotion today for this article. I mean, this has got to be the most hits on the OT's web site ever. I know, hasn't been around that long, but still. Pretty impressive Chad, you found a way to make people read your articles. I know that this is the 1st time that I have read one of your articles and it will be the last time as well.

    Hopefully you feel better about yourself after writing this article about WEEI, must have some demons in that head of yours.....

    And I agree with a lot of the posters that say that WEEI will be around in 5 years, but the Globe and the OT will not be.

    Posted by Dan February 26, 09 06:18 PM
  1. I am a common denominator. I don't presume otherwise. Chad has told me so.

    Posted by Liam Cougherty February 26, 09 06:19 PM
  1. I'm a college educated woman in my 30's and I listen because I enjoy New England sports AND the on-air personalities. I can deal with the occasional sophomoric or scatological humor - I find the humor in the genial banter and the up-to-the-minute sports info make it well worth listening.
    I do align myself with D&C politically, so I enjoy the political talk very much, but I can see where that would be frustrating to those on the other side of the aisle.
    As George Carlin pointed out: there are two knobs on the radio. One turns it off, and the other CHANGES THE CHANNEL!!

    Posted by Shelley February 26, 09 06:21 PM
  1. I listen a lot less now 30 minutes of commercials are a real turn off .If the big O makes 1 million a year What dose that come to by the hour? I bet it is close to a Manny at bat .I glad I got xm radio

    Posted by kevin from manchester February 26, 09 06:22 PM
  1. I switched to XM a year ago and it looks like I made the right decision. Ill admit to missing Dale and Holley but the other blow hards were simply unbearable. At the end of the day though to each their own.

    Posted by Smitty February 26, 09 06:25 PM
  1. Hey Chad why don't you do an interview with the big show or D&C so you can explain your self to them verbally. I bet you would not have the balls to say half the things you wrote.

    Posted by Drew February 26, 09 06:26 PM
  1. I don't agree with this article at all. If they talk solely about sports they would run out of material and everyone would turn the radio knob. The shows are entertaining with a sports theme and make me laugh out loud. What more can you ask for on your ride to and from work? I don't need the show to intellectually tickle my brain, I do enough thinking at work. The point of the show is to relax on the ride home.

    Posted by Pat B February 26, 09 06:28 PM
  1. John Dennis is a walking thesaurus!!

    Posted by Andrew February 26, 09 06:30 PM
  1. Wow, what a polarizing article. I guess if I wanted to start a sports journalism career I should write an article bashing EEI.

    Posted by Ryan Mc February 26, 09 06:34 PM
  1. With the exception of Dale and Holley I am in agreement. The morning show is riddled with such right wing propaganda I can't even listen any more! Plus, the day that the "2 girls in the AM" said that Olympic female beach volleyball players are just a bunch of girls running around in bikinis, I lost all hope for that morning show. Have they not seen Misty May and Kerri Walsh?? Clearly athleticism only applies to those who play with a bat, hockey stick, basketball or football. And from 2pm-6pm it is totally a show just about who can talk the loudest. It's such bantering. I never know whether or not they actually make a point.

    Posted by Kristen February 26, 09 06:38 PM
  1. Finn started off a little strong, he definitely wanted to finally create some feedback for the blog...And though I definitely enjoy EEI in spurts, Finn is correct on some points. I just wonder however, what type of column he would have written if Globe-affiliated talent was still allowed on the station.
    Mikey - hilarious, not too much effort following the sports industry though
    Ordway - great plan, good connections, sold it out awhile ago
    Holley - good job, but being held back...Arnold - nothing to say
    D&C - I turn it off now...
    Weekend - why would I listen on the weekend?

    Posted by turbo February 26, 09 06:45 PM
  1. It's funny to me all these people crying and whining like Finn saying how terrible EEI is. First of all if it is so terrible why is it #1? Next Mr. Finn, talking about guests on the show why didn't you address Maz? He was on the Big Show quite regularly as a guest. Are you saying he rode Ordway's coattails or stayed in the background? I've heard quite a few times that Maz has taken part in if not led this type of behavior you're describing: cutting people off, telling people they're stupid, telling people to shut up. So if you rip one rip them all.... Did you talk to Maz about EEI, or are you banned from doing that like you're banned from EEI's shows? Do you really do any research or did you just write this because you're jealous? People listen to those shows to be entertained, and as you see by the response you're getting to this article you're doing your job too. I sometimes listen to the shows for the arguments and the whiner line. If I wanted an educated, polite discussion I'll go to the local book club. If you don't want to listen turn the dial, watch espn, or go on the internet. EEI is successful because it's entertaining, and if you don't like it too bad. Stop trying to input the fairness doctrine on EEI.

    Posted by Joseph Murphy February 26, 09 06:51 PM
  1. Sounds like if you have a semi conservitave viewpoint on WEEI.... Chad or anyone who reads the boston globe does not like you..............I sense a politica agenda.

    Posted by Tom February 26, 09 06:54 PM
  1. Seems coincidental that the WEEI-"nixers" in the poll are Globe readers...of Globe writers the GLOBE will not allow on WEEI !!! I read the Globe,Herald, and local papers,but ,independent of those ,I happen to find WEEI entertaining and even enjoy several laughs in a time when I don't find a lot to laugh about!!!

    Posted by janie February 26, 09 06:58 PM
  1. Ah....Ahem...."Apple Snapple" was always code for "Screw you EEI"

    Posted by Kowloonatic February 26, 09 07:07 PM
  1. Hey Bruce's Crowd -- how do you know that "Mikey Adams" is confused? You don't actually listen to WEEI right?

    Nothing nauseates me more than the Globe attention whore writers - who will pretty much write or say anything to be noticed by the big alphabet sports media to get a cameo before the "big game," only to trash their bread-and-butter sports teams. Of course this is done to demonstrate how pathetically "don't-call-me-a-homer" nuanced they are in the sports intellect department (pssst, there is no such thing).

    It's entertainment. WEEI is very good at it.

    Oh and "BTW" the only reason why I am even reading this whine of an article is because it was the topic on the Big Show (you can thank them for your 15 minutes of attention whoring fame).

    Chad, just get over yourself and turn the station.


    Posted by Globe whiners February 26, 09 07:09 PM
  1. I could not disagree with your article more.

    They may be loud, obnoxious, and republican...but that's Boston to me.

    Just like any other drunk, loud, heckler at Fenway....they are a constant stream of entertainment.

    This is what gives Boston sports it's personality and separates us from the dry-toast fans down in cities like New York.

    Posted by Ray February 26, 09 07:12 PM
  1. Glen Ordway is the biggest blow hard on the airwaves. Dale Arnold, while a nice guy, has not asked a guest a tough question since Christ wore short pants. His questions are such meatballs it's pathetic. Get a pair will you!

    Posted by Tony Montana February 26, 09 07:17 PM
  1. Chad Finn,.......GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!

    Bravo to you sir. I thought I was going to implode trying to come up with the right words to best describe the nightmare that is local sports talk radio in New England.

    I moved to Mass a few years back. I was a proud LIFE LONG and DIE HARD Celtics fan. Now I find it hard to root for them. I certainly don't admit to being a Celtics fan. I didn’t even think it was possible to stop loving one of my teams. Then I turned on WEEI. I don't want to be considered a Boston sports fan. It's because of WEEI and their listeners who come in droves. People believe What they hear, and what they have been listening to for years now is WEEI. The sophisticated Boston sports fan is few and far between. They are now the minority and I blame WEEI. The sophisticated fans need to stand up and give notice. The mindless sheep are giving you a bad name. Believe me when I tell you that the respect for the Boston sports fan is dwindling .

    Posted by LouieTheLip February 26, 09 07:19 PM
  1. D&C are annoying but still have good points regarding sports.
    D&H are good to listen to but unfortunately thats when I work so I have little opinion.
    THE SHOW is a great piece of programming. It is entertaining and informative. All the things Finn said that he dislikes are things that I enjoy listening to. All those callers and the strong opinions are what makes the show great. And last I checked people on a talk show are supposed to have opinions. Maybe if other channels were here I'd try them out but would probably go back to 850 / 1440 AM after being disappointed. And for the record, Mike Adams knows Manny is gone but when callers bring up Manny he is obligated to talk about what the callers want to discuss at leaset a little bit. Maybe if Mr. Finn was not so up tight and had a sense of humor maybe he'd enjoy the program. ESPN is much more informative but also a lot more boring. Mike & Mike are boring.

    Posted by Byron February 26, 09 07:19 PM
  1. I'm a Globe Subscriber & Boston.com reader. I always manage to pass up reading Chad Finn. This must be the most response he's ever received from one of his wannabe blogs. To Quote DeOssie, "If you ever reached the heights of that man (meaning Orday) you'd have to run home and pee your pants". The only thing I don't appreciate about 'EEI is the Republican Twins in the am spewing their venom and the DB Felger otherwise I enjoy the sports talk and most of the hosts' personalities. Lighten up Finn, it's only sports.

    Posted by Bob Grande February 26, 09 07:25 PM
  1. Not surpising considering the owner of this site. And for those who are sick of the politics, take a look at most successful " adult" morning shows and a majority of them talk politics in the morning so stop the whining

    Posted by Henry February 26, 09 07:25 PM
  1. Finn is 100% right and IF this market had a sports radio station that could get a signal EEI would be in trouble. It is a daily sickening diatribe from the morning crew and the late afternoon drive show. Luckily they are sandwiched with 2 decent shows. Disagree with the clows in the am and you get no chance to speak, but be sure you will be spoken of. With Big O it is just simple insest. Smerlas and DeOssie are on the show because it is payback because he does their tent gigs with the Patriots. Then he kisses Patriots behinds to further his endeavour on Comcast Sports Tonight.

    Posted by Adam February 26, 09 07:28 PM
  1. Those idiots in the afternoon should listen to themselves yell ,scream and talkover eachother and the callers then explain why we should listen to them.They give headaches and sound like uneducated clowns. Dale,Holley,D&C,Mikey keep on doing what you do .They are the only reason i still listen part time.

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 07:41 PM
  1. I totally agree with Finn. If there were a decent sports talk show alternative that had a signal strong enough so that I could hear them between 128 and 495, I would turn to that station in a heart beat. I think Dale and Holley are OK since they talk mostly about sports and in a rational manner. The other shows are more often than not "listen" radio, not "talk" radio since the hosts and guests can occupy the airwaves for upwards of 45 minutes. I love sports and appreciate good sports talk, but when D&C begin discussing politics and current events, I can't change the station fast enough!

    Posted by Rome February 26, 09 07:51 PM
  1. Who is Chad Finn and why should I care?

    Posted by Dale Arnold February 26, 09 07:55 PM
  1. Mr The Chad-

    Right now you seem like a boss who would fire an employee via email, instead of face to face! You physically look like Matthew McConaughey in “Dazed and Confused”, but that’s mostly because you drive a Trans Am.

    Wow this was a lame, pathetic, amateurish attempt by you, to get yourself known. The good news for you is that it worked and now at least the Boston area sports fan knows who you are.

    However you need to back it up or you’ll become a “one hit wonder” and sent back down to your mother’s basement where you came from.

    Anyone can blog or email their attacks from afar. Grow a set and call the Big Show like a man! Don't use the excuse that you can't call because of the Globe/Weei issue. If you are going to call Dennis and Callahan, racists, you better stop hiding behind your "blog" and contact them.

    Please show me something or you will be forgotten.

    Good Luck Big Guy

    Posted by CFS February 26, 09 07:56 PM
  1. bring back ted sarandis and eddie andelman. Everyone else sucks on that blowhard station!!!

    Posted by rdj February 26, 09 08:05 PM
  1. Chad Finn is an idiot.

    Posted by dave February 26, 09 08:11 PM
  1. The commentary is really about Ordway and his band of bigmouthed fools, and about the perpetually angry middle-aged morning guys, the bitter D&C. I don't listen during those hours - it's like a flipping hen party with all the cackling and self-absorption. When I drive at night, however, I love Mikey Adams. Funny, warm, and doesn't take himself seriously as either a host or sports expert. Dale and Holley are OK but not great, listenable, and they let callers speak. This column is really aimed at the Big Show. And it's exactly correct. The Big Show reminds me of being back in the high school caf with the buffoons at the end table thinking they're cool if everyone has to listen to their insipid ass-grabby conversations. So I like 'EEI - a few hours a day.
    S

    Posted by Jarred66 February 26, 09 08:13 PM
  1. The boneheads on The Big Show make me want to stick needles in *their* eyes. Why do they have to have 5 people in the studio and then let them all talk at once???? The colossal stupidity of this may be irreversible. Give me Dale and Holley over and over again, keep the Big Show Blowhards.

    Posted by John February 26, 09 08:15 PM
  1. Thank you Chad.

    I couldn't agree more.

    Posted by BN February 26, 09 08:16 PM
  1. As a Western MA die-hard Sox fan, I was spared the WEEI broadcast for years until the Eashampton affiliate picked up the signal a couple of years ago. For years my driving job, mostly in CT, allowed me to become aquainted with WFAN out of NY. I fell in love with the format, the (mostly) intelligent (and respectful) hosts and callers. Then when EEI became available to me, I was ecstatic to hear my hometown team be the center of attention, thinking nothing could be better. Well, it didn't take long for me to realize that the politics of Dennis and Callihan made the sometimes brilliant spots too costly to my conscience. ...and the Big Show - what a joke!! The rudeness of the hosts, the willingness of the callers to join the cacaphony of shouts and over-talk...makes it completely unbearable. I do think that Lou Merloni is great, though...He just needs to get out before he becomes tainted by the idiocy that surrounds him.
    The ratings are great... Well, no wonder... the desparate Sox fan looking for talk about his team, doesn't have much choice. Fortunately, this die-hard Yankee hater has a quality sports station from NY to listen to that is informative, respectful and populated with classier callers. I'm embarrassed for Boston, for Sox fans, and for defenders of poor programming who think ratings are everything. A program director with a philosophy of quality information and respect as a primary motivation could easily replace the Big Show with better people, and could tell Dennis and Callihan that nobody cares to hear Right Wing drivel interjected to captive listeners looking for quality sports talk. Stick to sports, guys!! Why are we content with Sports Talk that is so low-class compared to the professional sports station in MY?

    Posted by Kentageous February 26, 09 08:21 PM
  1. MIke and Mike in the mornings...
    Lew and Mike in the afternoons...
    Planet Mikey if you have to work late...

    done and done.

    Posted by brendan from newton February 26, 09 08:25 PM
  1. Gee according to these posts the only one worht listening to is Holley. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise the one liberal left wingnut job is the only one worth listening to. There is a surprise for the Globe readership!

    Wonder why there are

    Here is an idea if EEI is so bad take some of that hard earned $$ of yours use it to buy airtime on a station with a strong signal and compete head to head. When you lose all your $$ I'm sure Obama will BAIL you out too!

    Posted by honeydew February 26, 09 08:28 PM
  1. Dale and Holley at least sound like they know sports I stopped listening to weei months ago. Smerlas sounds like a grandmother's fart everytime he opens his mouth. I think he had too many concussion from playing pro football. He makes Rush Limbaugh sound intelligent, and that is not an easy thing to do. The only one dumber is Callahan who can't speak coherently about sports, let alone politics. In a way though they have helped this country. Its idiots like these that have made Obama so popular. Please guys, keep talking politcs. The democrats can use your support. Yes. choose xm or sirrius. Weei is a sinking ship. . .

    Posted by Dan February 26, 09 08:28 PM
  1. I tuned in twice this afternoon and heard ordway lecturing us about radio and how their show is based on research and the numbers say they're doing everything wonderfully and blah blah blah and doing his usual thing where he picks apart what someone wrote and everyone on his panel agrees with him that the writer is an idiot and ordway is terrific.

    Anyway, the point of my post: I've never heard him and the rest of those sh*theads be more accomodating or give more time to callers than I did today. (Naturally, the callers I heard were sycophants, but even sycophants don't usually get that much time and courtesy.) If they're so tremendous and loved by everyone, I wonder why they spent the whole show defending what they do and allowing their moronic followers to tell them how fabulous they are. Seems they wouldn't have to to that if they're as great as they say they are.

    Posted by rosencrantz1 February 26, 09 08:28 PM
  1. Wow

    I thought I was the only one that thinks D&C are a couple of douche bags. I stopped listening to them a long time ago. I wish there was a decent sports station in town. I guess I'll keep listening to music.

    Posted by Not Alone Apparently February 26, 09 08:31 PM
  1. Pete Shephard epitomizes this station's fraudulence. He gained notoriety in the 90's for being a Yankees fan Flash Boy, taunting and mocking Red Sox fans from the time the Yankees began their dynastic run until the gimmick became an albatross. He now claims he was "protesting" Dan Duquette's decisions as if that is justification for that kind of betrayal. If this graduate of the We'll Give You An Official Looking Diploma In Exchange For Your Money School Of Broadcasting Of Connecticut thinks anyone but idiots will buy that, then he's as stupid as his inability to get into an actual college would indicate. Since you're certainly reading this Pete (or someone will bring this to your attention and read it to you), just admit you sold out your fanhood for gimmickry. It was worth it, you got a great gig out of your willingness to betray the Red Sox and Red Sox fans. But you've never had credibility as a sports analyst, which is evident when you speak out loud on the topic of sports (your typically ill-informed muttering about BC football when you agreed to be an “expert” for the Va. Tech football radio show sums your career up perfectly, why at age Forty-Fat you're still a Flash Boy). But not everyone can be good at their job., Everyone can be a real fan and you are an absolute fraud when it comes to being a loyal fan. Rooting for the Yankees and taunting die-hard Red Sox fans for years completely invalidates you. At least Craig Mustard stuck with it. How does it feel to be less respect worthy than the deplorable Craig Mustard?

    Posted by The Stool's Stool February 26, 09 08:33 PM
  1. Unless they are lying about the ratings, people are listening. That's the bottom line.

    Posted by I hate cheap tools February 26, 09 08:45 PM
  1. I live in New York and in 1988 New York had many sport radio stations.
    WMCA had a nightly sports radio show. WFAN had a 24 hour radio sports shows.
    WABC had a nightly sports radio show. WNEW had a nightly sports radio show.
    The point I am trying to make is in New York you have diversity, competition etc...
    and the better ones win out. So today 21 years later you have 2 all sports radio stations. WFAN with a trong signal and WEPN which will upgrade it's signal with a new antenna next month. In Boston "NO Diversity" ever enough said. It is one for all with one team, one sports radio station, one newspaper (Boston Herald from what I see does not carry much). It is the Kremlin in Boston.


    Posted by Michael February 26, 09 08:55 PM
  1. Steve DeOssie doesn't want gays to marry because it would tarnish the definition of the word, but when he had the chance to honor it, he didn't have what it takes to honor his commitments, cheated on his wife like crazy, got divorced and then went trolling high school yearbooks for the teenage chicks most likely to be dazzled by a Super Bowl ring (that everyone else on his team actually earned) and a face that turns fuschia if the wind changes direction. Neither him nor his partner in hot beef, Fred Smerlas, would have ever made a ripple on Earth after high school if genetics didn't align to make them larger than the average person. Smerlas is a loser to his core. He was the head loser on a winless team in college. He was the head loser on a bunch of afterthought teams in Buffalo. The Pats didn't start getting good until ownership gave him a pity contract that Bill Parcells snickered at when cutting him.

    And now they've got a C- “steakhouse” in a D+ “casino” and they continue to cater to people who don't know any better but keep raking in the bucks. You'd think they wouldn't hate America as much as they obviously do given that they've gotten so much for doing nothing more valuable than continue to grow after the point when humans who aren't freaks of nature usually stop.

    Posted by TooSmartToVoteRed February 26, 09 09:00 PM
  1. I used to defend Boston sports radio. I don't anymore. About two years ago I got hooked on Mike and The Mad Dog. Simply the best sports radio in the history of the genre, and it ruined me on the EEI scene forever. They were smart, engaging, funny, and all encompassing. They didn't talk over each other but were still on the cutting edge.........for instance Dale Arnold and Micheal Holly try to emulate it but they fall on their faces because they commit the biggest sin in the entertainment business.....they're boring as hell and don't offer an opinion.

    The Big Show COULD be good......Glen Ordway is as talented as anyone out there.......but since his show alongside dunderheads like Fred Smerlas and Larry Johnson get great ratings as they scream over each other, he feels the need to keep the status quo. To me, now, that stuff is unlistenable, especially now because with the success of the teams they are nothing more than pom pom wavers for the local teams. Tom frickin Brady goes down, and the next day on WEEI I listen to 8 hours of these cretins tell me that it doesn't matter one bit. The Sox don't get Teixeira ? Who cares, Epstien poops iced cream. The Celts don't sign James Posey? Certainly Danny Ainge couldn't make a bad decision. Its infuriating and it sucks and it stinks.

    Posted by Rocco Graziosa February 26, 09 09:02 PM
  1. I stopped listening to D&C months ago. Gerry Callahan is simply ingnorant and John Dennis never calls him on it. I listen to sports radio so I can hear about sports, not the host political agenda. The station is a joke and I will start listening to the other shows that have been mentioned in these posts.

    Posted by narents February 26, 09 09:04 PM
  1. I love you people, "This one's a racist, that one's a racist" You remind me of the McCarthy era. Instead of a commie under every bed, it's a racist.

    Posted by allriledup February 26, 09 09:05 PM
  1. George Carlin also said, " If you take two things that have never been nailed together and nail them together, some schmuck will buy it."
    That is a perfect description of WEEI.

    Posted by Guy Incognito February 26, 09 09:13 PM
  1. I have been thinking this for a long while as well, but listening to yesterday's show, when they were ripping over the guy who asked Calhoun the salary question make it so clear. Not that I agreed with the guy, but they would let me say two words before all 4 of the hosts starting yelling questions and comments, then yelling why he didn't answer their question after the other 3 hosts had yelled their own. Unbearable.

    Posted by brah mah February 26, 09 09:27 PM
  1. Wow, looks like this article hit a sore spot on their afternoon show today. Chad Finn hit a homerun. Here's what Ordway and Jason Wolfe/Entercom don't comprehend...

    1. Their great ratings are primarily based on two factors: signal strength and Boston-based sports passion. ANY station - *ANY* - in Boston with a good stick could have an equally strong sports station if they committed to it. WEEI's overall talent base is mediocre, certainly far less strong than WFAN in NY. People here LOVE sports. Heck, I can't stand the Big Show but I often listen to it because I have no alternative in the suburbs. I would abandon WEEI in a heartbeat if I could
    pick up another sports station. So we have no choice but to listen to these yelling and ranting guys in the afternoon. Just because we do DOESN'T mean it's good radio; it simply means there is no other place to get Sox/Pats/Celts news. I've worked in radio/TV forever, managed small stations, and I've seen good programming die on poor antennas, and poor programming succeed (like WEEI) on good towers. If you have a good signal, you have won more than 50% of the battle.

    2. D&C in the AM is pathetic. Entercom should be embarrassed that they have signed these two hate-mongers longterm. Boomer & Carton on WFAN are 10x better, and they actually talk sports in the morning. What a concept! And they actually respect their callers. It's amazing that D&C have jobs while far superior hosts like Scott Cordischi (formerly of The Score in Providence) sit on the sidelines.

    3. Kudos to Dale & Holley. They are the best program on WEEI. Two hosts who respect their callers, talk intelligently about sports, and have a little fun in the process.

    4. Big Show. Ordway is intelligent & talented, but IMO would be far better off alone or with one co-host. He's not worth $1M a year, god no. His talent could be replicated for less than $250k. He should be ashamed to allow this circus to take place. It's amazing how many buffoons WEEI can stuff into one studio for a show. Sean McAdam is excellent, Paul Perillo (sp?) and Tom Curran also. Rob Bradford too (and he's great with Mike M. on the weekends). But most of the others are dreadful. My IQ drops 75 points every time I tune in.

    So WEEI employees (I hesitate to use the word "talent"): be thankful that you have jobs. Your station has ratings in spite of most of you, not because of you. There are more talented hosts elsewhere. Be thankful that Entercom hasn't realized or cared about this yet, and be thankful than a Boston FM competitor with a good stick hasn't taken up the relatively easy challenge of humbling you.

    Posted by stan February 26, 09 09:36 PM
  1. The problem is, if you want to call it that, WEEI keeps going up and the Boston Globe keeps going down. This translates into revenue and earnings..My suggestion Chad is make sure your resume' is in order and rent, don't buy..

    Posted by ricks357 February 26, 09 09:38 PM
  1. Chad, boy did you hit a nerve at WEEI. ha ha ha ha ha
    Ordway couldn't stop talking about your piece all day long as he hid behind the "the only thing that upsets me is Finn attacked our listeners" card. What a crock!! Only the "lowest common denominator" is buying that. The pack at WEEI (they're big and bad when they're ganging up on people 3 or 4 against 1) just can't stop talkng about ya Chad.
    Kudos man!! You got 'em and you got 'em good!.

    Posted by Mike66 February 26, 09 09:39 PM
  1. When is the last time an article drew over 750 posts?? And that is not saying the OT column was very good, but it is certainly saying just how popular WEEI is. I listen as I am in the car most of the day, and you have to take some of it with a grain of salt, but the bottom line is that all shows can be very entertaining. Talking steroids for 4 hours, and I will sign off for awhile. Funny thing is that some of the callers are so bad they actually make the hosts sound somewhat knowledgable.

    Posted by Dick Baz February 26, 09 09:54 PM
  1. Sports radio in Boston is not tolerable. There is a nice station in Bangor Maine called WZON that is pleasant to listen to and they do a good job at covering local sports. Colin Cowherd from ESPN is much better the toxic shows on WEEI.

    Posted by KFL February 26, 09 09:54 PM
  1. While many WEEI sycophants who've posted here say the Globe is losing money and WEEI has great ratings and is "a great business model", while I agree the globe will eventually go the way of the dinosaur Entercom stock is currently hovering around $1 per share. They also have stopped matching most of their employees contributions to their 401k's. WEEI's parent company isn't doing much better, despite "great ratings" in the Boston market.

    Another rant of the WEEI sycophants, The Globe is liberal and WEEI has many hosts that are conservative, so the Globe is biased against them. I have conservative viewpoints and hate the Globe's liberal agenda, but I am also embarrassed that someone like KKKallahan and Dennis Metco share a lot of my political viewpoints. Liberals must feel the same as I do when Olberman spews his junk.

    Another thing for WEEI sycophants, if what Finn wrote is so wrong, why did Ordway and Mike "Manny is the anti-christ" Adams spend so much time talking about it? The saying "Thou doth protest too much" comes to mind. The truth hurts.


    Posted by BSF34 February 26, 09 10:04 PM
  1. I hadn't seen this column until I heard them talking about it on 850 and 890 at the same time in the afternoon. I listen to both stations since discovering 890 months ago, but I confess that I dislike the Big Show, and that I absolutely can't stand Dennis and Callahan's over the top brand of conservatism. It's fine to have an opinion, but they're so dismissive and insulting to people who don't share their views. There are intelligent people who disagree with them, and I can remember Callahan being rude to one caller who was being very respectful. I don't listen to them anymore at all. I wish WEEI would get rid of them, and I've been wishing that for months. I'd love to hear Felger on every morning instead.

    Posted by anonymous February 26, 09 10:36 PM
  1. Go back to the Concord Monitor, you friggin' hack!

    Posted by willstah February 26, 09 10:46 PM
  1. I can tell you right now why I won't be listening tomorrow morning. Great Bruins game at the garden tonight and D&C won't acknowledge it even happened. 3 sport media. Tune in to Hillman or Toucher and Rich, they'll be talking about one of the best games of the year.

    Posted by Dave M February 26, 09 11:00 PM
  1. BIG-OH. TELL YA BOUT A TYME IN DA CITYBIG OH. MISTA TORRRREEE AND I WERE HABING A DRENK BIG OH.

    Posted by Frank From Gloucester February 26, 09 11:02 PM
  1. Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! It's called entertainment! The banter is funny. the personalities are strong, and the topics are relevant. Just talking sports all day would be BORING...just ask anyone who ever listened to the SCORE in RI. Keep up the great work WEEI, don't change a thing.

    Posted by LCD February 26, 09 11:07 PM
  1. Hah! 100 posts defending WEEI and none of them with an intelligent point! Just a bunch of idiotic ad hominem attacks and whiny liberal bashing!

    You guys sure showed us, eh?

    Posted by Bruce's Crowd February 26, 09 11:11 PM
  1. I didn't know the Globe was still In business!

    Posted by Anonymous February 26, 09 11:21 PM
  1. Chad,

    Um who are you and what do you do again?

    Posted by dontlikeit?dontlisten February 26, 09 11:25 PM
  1. Holley is very good. He is well spoken, interesting and has a good sense of humor. He is WEEI at it's best. The worst of WEEI : Pete Shepard ia an Idiot Steve Buckley is obnoxious and I can't listen to him. The yelling over each other, the interrupting of callers trying to make a point, The idiotic juvenile whiner line calls.

    Posted by bman February 26, 09 11:37 PM
  1. You've got to be kidding me. You use that hack Mike Felgar as your example of a knowledgable sports personality? I'll be the first to admit there are a number of WEEI personalities I could do without, like D&C, Pete Sheppard (if he's the best alumnus CSB could find to plug their programs, they've got serious problems), and even Ordway at times. The fact is, however, they DO bring in knowledgable sportswriters who DO know what they're talking about. The REAL issue here is that none of them work for the Globe. And whose fault is that? Not WEEI's. This is a Globe writer taking it personally that his paper isn't getting a piece of the hottest sports news outlet in town. That and an effort to simultaneously plug such programs and networks the Globe DOES have a stake in. I particularly like how your formula for a good sports radio station conveniently includes Globe writers. There was a time when this would be an attractive alternative. Sadly, few quality sportswriters remain on the Globe staff (read: Jackie Mack) which is overrun with hacks like Shaughnessey, Maz (I'm sure the Herald is thrilled to be rid of him...as are WEEI listeners), and Chad Finn.

    Posted by JAW February 26, 09 11:42 PM
  1. Mr. Finn,
    No one knew who you were 15 minutes ago. No one will remember you by next week. Have a great career working in the newspaper business!

    WEEI has a great lineup and I will continue to listen as much as I can.

    Posted by Ryan L February 26, 09 11:44 PM
  1. free speech, free market - study up a bit chad

    Posted by kbooker February 26, 09 11:52 PM
  1. The Big Show has become the worst show on the air. It really sucks these days. Dale and Holley rock, but Glenn and his hacks need to go. Now!

    Posted by Matt D February 26, 09 11:53 PM
  1. Chad Finn said what many of us have been thinking for years! When I go to work in the morning, I click on 850 and if I hear D & C with their right-wing extremism or worse yet, fill-in host Michael Felger whining and screaming, I click it off. How no-talent, bigoted loud-mouths get their own radio show is beyond me. If you just listen to the people who are calling in to get their air-time, you quickly discover that the listening audience is of the same mind. As far as the big show goes, it can be entertaining, and certainly has its moments with guests who have a clue, like Sean McAdams, Tony Mazz, and the various coaches and GM's who are frequent guests. Too often, though, the show deteriorates into screaming matches between hosts and/or callers. It's obnoxious, and certainly not compelling radio. And, just for the record, Manny is gone, he was bad, he is a quitter, we get it, so shut up about it!

    Posted by enoughalready February 27, 09 02:55 AM
  1. Michael Felger routinely refers to Southern Christians as "nut jobs". I'm sure some of them are, but anyone who categorizes a whole group with such a derogatory term is as intolerant as they come. And the people who give Felger a pass while pretending to be so progressive are as ignorant as he is.

    Posted by AF February 27, 09 04:48 AM
  1. It has been years since I listened. more than a few minutes per week (usually during channel changes) They need to change the sportscasters like teams change players. Same old personalities and the bench is not much better. Does it get much worse than Smeralls and DeOssie on the same program. Both sound like they have rocks up thei nose.

    Posted by Rick February 27, 09 05:38 AM
  1. eei's CRYIN OUT!!! for decent competition; local, fun, informative content could crush these painful, incompetent morons. Listen on the 'net cuz ONLY exscrusciating, torturous option. If someone else had the $, even in this economy, destruction of eei moroncy could & should happen. Please, it would be to the extreme benefit of people world (boston-sportsnation) wide. We want Better, good, fun, boston sports, tolerable banter & insight. & poor mikey could jump over the fence again; him & holley only hope of hopeless crew, aloha.

    Posted by hank February 27, 09 06:20 AM
  1. "Fixing Sports Radio"? What about "Fixing Sports Newspaper"?
    The Herald and Globe lost my business long ago.
    You got the wrong topic here Chid.

    Posted by hutch February 27, 09 06:33 AM
  1. Huge thanks to Chad Finn for writing this. I can't begin to tell you how many times I've tuned back and forth to D&C in the morning and The Big Show in the afternoon hoping they'll actually be talking about something worthwhile. Callahan's snide bitterness and The annoyance of the Big Show guys constantly trying to top each other has dominated WEEI's airwaves for far too long. Would someone please give us a sports radio alternative here in the Northeast?

    Posted by Ryan February 27, 09 07:22 AM
  1. I've been a steady to listener of WEEI since 2002, but even I finally gave up on Dennis & Callahan and the Big Show. It's all about ego on those shows, and too often sophomoric. No thanks.

    Posted by mojorisin24 February 27, 09 07:33 AM
  1. Well, thanks to a concerted effort by the Rotarians, WEEI supporters have now broken the 30% approval rating.

    Posted by Scott February 27, 09 07:36 AM
  1. I like WEEI sportstalk when they talk about sports. When they get into right wing
    political ranting(most noticably Dennis and Callahan), that is when I switch stations.

    Posted by Allen123 February 27, 09 08:01 AM
  1. The WEEI folks should kiss Chad Finn for starting this storm. Here is a goldmine of feedback that you can use to understand how listeners feel, and hopefully adjust your programming accordingly...

    Posted by Paolo February 27, 09 09:22 AM
  1. Right on Chad! The "Big" Show is a joke...they all scream over each other and don't let the caller get a word in edgewise..Fred and Deossie should never be allowed on the radio ever again until they learn how to speak...Glen is a clown that does like to scream louder than everyone which makes him think he's always correct...listen to the Lou and Mike show on 890 at 4pm..much better in all regards..I give them a lot of credit and they allow callers to speak their mind...I can't listen to EEI anymore except for Planet Mikey...

    Posted by Rich February 27, 09 11:13 AM
  1. not everyone in this state is a liberal tree hugger, respect the fact the morning crew talks about current events and the fact that they have a conservative bias is not a bad thing, your reading this on the globe website and we know they would rather have a Kennedy section of the newspaper than a sports section

    Posted by obamamyboy February 27, 09 11:25 AM
  1. EEI is entertaining, which is more than I can say for most of the other sports radio out there...I've tried satellite, I've listened to other programs. They stink. They're boring. And here's a news flash: hosts on other stations all think they know everything. I care about the Red Sox, Pats, Celts and to a lesser degree the Bruins; I don't need three or four hours of discussion on the BCS or Tennis, thanks anyway.

    Posted by ME Sports fan February 27, 09 11:26 AM
  1. Thank you, Chad. Everything you raise in this column has been true for, gosh, 12-13 years. Total idiocy.

    Being a WEEI listener is a disease that must be cured. Any time I hear someone talking about something they heard on WEEI I make a point of straightening them out. And they all eventually stop.

    Only you can prevent WEEI listenership.

    Posted by WEEI can eat a bag February 27, 09 11:53 AM
  1. When I saw this article, I wondered how far into it I'd have to wait before he took the obligatory swipe at anyone who dared to agree with conservative politics. The Globe, Boston.com and horrifically, especially this OT BS, is so left-wing if makes me vomit. I'm tired of it.
    By the way, when was it that it happened that any jerk who can type a blog is now considered a "journalist?" I remember when you had to actually get a job in the business first.

    Posted by RR February 27, 09 12:10 PM
  1. This just in. It takes 2 hrs. to walk around John Dennis's head.

    Posted by bobcat February 27, 09 12:37 PM
  1. Well said Chad. About time somebody took the buffoons on at that station.

    Posted by jingles February 27, 09 12:55 PM
  1. Has Chad Finn listened to WEEI throughout their history or when he finds it convenient. If you remember correctly, EEI had your beloved Globe writers on their station. Then for reason that still seem mindblowing to me told them that they could not come on the station anymore. Some of the people that have been on EEI with the regulars have been Mazz, Charlie Pierce, Felger (who now blogs for them),
    Michael Smith, Jackie McMullan, and Wendy Nix among others. Maybe the problem is not that you do not like EEI but that you have never been a part of EEI. Furthermore, if want to hear Globe writers on EEI, the tell your bosses and stop crying that they are not being heard on Boston radio.

    Posted by Mike from ND February 27, 09 01:07 PM
  1. Darn I had to scroll all the way down to comment. How about a new Boston sports talk station could bring back Nuemy. What's he doing now he was OK??

    Posted by JOHNF February 27, 09 01:30 PM
  1. I used to like 790 when it was on?! but then again I am actually interested in sports, not something disguised as sports talk and is really a bunch of dinks trying to tell you how to live your life.

    Posted by REED February 27, 09 01:38 PM
  1. First of all, complaining on here about the WEEI programming is like complaining to your mother about politics. No one who means anything at WEEI is paying any attention to the Globe because the Globe shunned WEEI long ago. All this is going to do is make those of us who enjoy (some of) WEEI complain about what a hack you are, and those who already don't listen complain more about something they're never going to have control of. As you said, Chad, there was an opportunity to put together an alternative with (what you claim to be) competent personalities involved and it failed. Clearly enough people think WEEI is doing something right that they're consistently #1 in the market.

    As for the comments about the "success" of satellite radio, I'm not sure where you're getting that idea. Sirius and XM almost went under, and the only thing that kept them alive was the merger (acquisition of XM by Sirius). Since then, they're still struggling to bring in revenue, resulting in a $2 increase in subscription rates on March 11. Maybe before you say WEEI and other stations are losing listeners to satellite you should actually investigate and learn the facts. But I guess that would be too much to ask of a "journalist" of your "stature."

    Posted by JAW February 27, 09 01:44 PM
  1. I gave up on D&C once the war started ( I always thought it ironic that D&C is medical slang for an abortion procedure) and on eei when I purchased Sirius radio. I don't miss it a bit. Your commentary is bang on. Only hope that Ordway doesn't pop a blood vessal.

    Posted by chaco February 27, 09 02:18 PM
  1. Other than Dale and Holley (who are awesome) WEEI leaves much to be desired. Dennis and Callahan in the morning are so one-sided, they shoul be talking politics elsewhere. The Big Show is just a bunch of hollering, it's horrible.

    Posted by mike February 27, 09 02:27 PM
  1. Chad's right all across the board! Except for Dale & Holley, 'EEI is full of self-serving blowhards that read their own press! Shepard??!! All he says is: " I'm TIRED of people saying, blah, blah, blah! It's what I say and NO WAY ELSE!" Smerlas & DeOssie??!! "If you disagree I'll beat you up. Come down here and say that. I carry a gun." And what about the incredibly tacky way Fred always talks about his other "businesses". Hmmm... seems he leaves out the part where his "non-profit" makes profit! He's a telemarketer, people!!! He was even smacked down by the state for misinforming the cold-callers that they were police officers and keeping 60% of the money!
    Memo to Kahn & Wolfe: the people are restless! If there was a strong-enough signal, people would go ELSEWHERE!

    Posted by Meada13 February 27, 09 02:40 PM
  1. Who is Chad Finn? The guy whose column you just read.

    This is like arguing with Beavis and/or Butthead. If the Globe is so irrelevant, why are you reading it again? I wouldn't have known bloggers were disagreeing with Mikey Adams if he didn't blubber about it every night. Cripes, you don't like something, don't read it. It's like the radio. But with less commercials.
    Tak your own advice.

    Posted by Bruce's Crowd February 27, 09 02:47 PM
  1. I love EEI when they talk about sports, and that goes for all the shows, but when they get into the politics it drives me nuts. I mean you can't have a differing opinion from them either, or you'll get blown up, or your a liberal turd. God forbid someone doesn't agree with you. The other thing that gets me is when Sheppard has his blinders on, and thinks everything is dumb. During the Olympics they were talking about handball I think, and he just acted like only 3rd world countries play it. I mean Jesus Pete, you're a sports guy have a little knowledge about other sports not played in the US.

    Posted by Shawn February 27, 09 03:46 PM
  1. Your piece was a long time in coming. The main point is: people don't listen because they love the content; they listen because it's the only game in town. I used to try to listen to the McDonough group and Felger's show on my way home from work (inside 128), and by the time I hit 128, the signal was pretty much nonexistent, which, as a sports fan, doesn't leave me with any alternative other than 'EEI. In the morning, I'll start trying to listen to D&C, and then, as soon as Callahan gets on one of his mouth-breathing, knuckle dragging rants, I switch over to Mike and Mike on ESPN Radio. It may not be local, but at least it's sports. And I hope that the posters here will realize that the point of this is not to rant for the sake of ranting; it's to hopefully let somebody with deep pockets know the Boston market is fertile ground for another sports radio station - one with sufficient power - to provide an alternative to the buffoons on EEI (Dale and Holley excepted). What gets me the most is how they pass for sports radio, when, in fact, most of them don't know the first thing about sports, particularly sports history in Boston. Butch Stearns and Bill Bert, while seemingly nice guys, are clearly imbeciles. DeOssie and Smerlas are nothing but uninformed bullies. Sheppard is the perfect illustration of the Peter Principle. If he has to speak extemporaneously his gargantuan melon explodes into jibberish. And Ordway is a sputtering little tool who'd run over his own grandmother for a dollar. The guys who do appear on there and are any good and know their sports - MacAdam, Buckley, Curran - I'm sure just go along with these idiots because they're being paid well. If they had a real sports outlet to work at and the money was comparable they'd jump at it. this them don't know the first thing about sports.

    Posted by Whiskey1 February 27, 09 03:59 PM
  1. anybody who thinks The Big Show is so great try a podcast of the BS Report with Bill Simmons and then tell me EEI is so great. EEI will lose listeners eventually now that ESPN is on the scene here and I don't necessarily think that's a good thing but seriously the politics on D&C show and the Big Show are total amateur hour and the sports talk is lacking.

    Posted by Josh February 27, 09 04:07 PM
  1. I agree with a lot of what Chad Finn says. And I listen all day long at work streaming online. But I do that because I want to hear chatter about my local teams, catch breaking news etc. Dennis and Callahan in the morning sicken me to no end. Gerry's political rants have become laugable, not in a comedic way, but in a sad, absurd way. When he has the balls to make fun of people who are ouyt of work and can't pay their mortgage, and his answer is "I paid mine off". Well uexcuse us Mr. Callahan, but we don't all make 6 figures for doing absolutely nothing. I listen to their show to hear Boomer and Tom Brady, Adam Schefter, etc. I merely put up with all the rest of the crap. As for the drive time show, Ordway truly does believe that louder means smarter. Their arrogance towards callers is sickening. I would love to hear a more intelligent, more well thought out format and hosts. I agree that Dale and Holley are listenable because they have thoughtful conversations with callers and they rarely shout. Overall I think his comments hit the mark

    Posted by SaugusBoy February 27, 09 04:42 PM
  1. I'm a diehard Boston sports fan living in CT, and I used to tune in daily when WEEI started broadcasting on 103.7 FM. However, I've lost interest in a majority of the programs over the last few years, namely The Big Show, D&C and Mike Adams due to their arrogant tone and political rants. Ordway does think he knows it all and is very annoying, all he does is talk over and yell at callers who dare to disagree with him. I tune in to hear about the Red Sox, Celtics and Patriots, not the war in Iraq, the economy or politics. Callahan and Dennis are unbearable. Since when did WEEI become newstalk? I hate it. I listen to MadDog on Sirius or Mike Francesa on the WFAN.

    Posted by Rob February 27, 09 04:42 PM
  1. WEEI is the Best station out there....you Chad....are a nobody trying to make a name for himself....Get over it....JEALOUSY will get you nowhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Michael Dufoe February 27, 09 04:47 PM
  1. Thanks to a concerted effort from the people and followers of www.bostonsportsmedia.com, the non-WEEI supporters have now broken the 65% marker. I wonder how many of them voted more then once?

    As the saying goes, 'you are what you are.' And WEEI is a powerhouse, whether Chad or any of the people at the Boston Globe want to admit it or not. The Globe will be gone in 5 years. WEEI will not. And yes, ratings speak louder then words on OT, something that will not be around in the next year. And Mazz will be back with WEEI!! This is all about the Globe vs. WEEI feud that the Globe is losing badly. Bye bye advertisers Globe.

    Posted by Dan February 27, 09 05:02 PM
  1. hey kbooker right free speech free market why don't you look it before you post

    Posted by chris February 27, 09 05:03 PM
  1. Your article is garbage.

    Posted by Kevin February 27, 09 05:16 PM
  1. This is so dead on. D&C are tired. Holley is awesome only great thing about it. The Big Show tries to be smart, but it fails miserably. I miss Sean McDonough. It was a good show. I really believe a local sports station could attract a bigger audience. Might not beat EEI but who needs radio anymore. Do it for free on the Internet. I would listed and participate.

    Posted by Julio R Varela February 27, 09 05:23 PM
  1. Thank you I listen to WFAN 660 because these guys are sooo bad

    Posted by gerry Brien February 27, 09 05:24 PM
  1. Yup, the only decent show is Dale and Holley, right? It must be because they don't talk about politics, or when they do they agree with the liberal elitists.

    It must be some sort of right wing conspiracy that allows hate mongers like Callahan and Rush Limbaugh to command huge salaries, right?

    Nope, it pretty much means that advertisers like the demo and pay the station. It's that simple Dr. Koolaid. If you can't compete, that's your problem. Even George Soros couldn't pour enough money into Air America to make it work. Why? It sucked and no one listened.

    Posted by jsm February 27, 09 05:41 PM
  1. great article - the morning show on WEEI has to go - in the 1/2 hour drive to work I can't even find out who won the C's game the night before...TALK SPORTS!

    Posted by fire_D&C February 27, 09 07:42 PM
  1. WEEI defenders: the broken records of the internet. You read one paragraph of their crap, you've read it all.

    Get out of your mom's basement and get a clue.

    Posted by Bruce's Crowd February 27, 09 09:36 PM
  1. With the exception of Dale and Holley, and the planet Mike i have trouble and for the most part stopped listening to the station. Chad, you are right on with your comments

    Jim

    Posted by Jim Steele February 27, 09 11:29 PM
  1. Chad! I'm frightened. I think you're overlooking something. It's not just EEI. There's been a trend nationally in sports radio to link an interest in sports with being "manly" - which seems to mean right-wing, overweight, ignorant, misogynist, intolerant, anti-intellectual, and worst of all, knowing nothing about sports. Listening to hour after hour of what amounts to a wink-nudge "I like eating tons of hot wings, think black quarterbacks are "athletic" and hate it when my wife makes me hold her purse" is a waste of time. I don't need my white guy male insecurities massaged by other fat white guys. I just want to hear someone with some insight about sports. Someone who knows more than I do from watching the game last night and spending ten minutes on line!.

    Posted by stevec February 28, 09 04:18 AM
  1. I think this is *yet more* of the Boston Globe trying to be the self-appointed Arbiter of All Things Media, when they can't even keep their own circulation going.

    I'm sick and tired of the whining. (That is, the whining of the self-appointed Media Blog authors and the self-appointed "guardians of radio quality").

    I've listened to the alternatives available to me in the Nashua area -- Fox Sports Radio (on 900 WGHM) and ESPN 1400 -- and find them middling at best, with signal that disappears into hash readily, even on GE Superadios.

    To be somewhat balanced, this doesn't mean that WEEI is without flaws.

    o Dennis & Callahan are pretty good when they stick to sports. Anything else causes me to tune in Dan Patrick or Mike and Mike.

    o Mike Adams is highly variable his own; he needs other co-hosts to keep him from floating out to left field. (On the other hand, his predecessor Ted Serandis was far too earnest for my liking.)

    -------

    When I turn on the radio, I *want* a distraction, I *want* to hear levity and humor and good "pals at a bar" type sports-talk. The Real World(tm) has far too much CRAP happening in it; sports talk -- in particular, the WEEI brand of sports talk -- has been an oasis, a fun place to go to unwind in the candy store that is sports. I *really* wish self-appointed Arbiters Of What Is Right would stop trying to make WEEI into a duplicate of NPR.


    Posted by JohnF February 28, 09 09:19 AM
  1. I don't see where being a sportsfan requires one to be a negative, bombastic neocon. Callers are treated like crap and are not allowed to express an opinion unless it is in agreement with the likes of Big O. The EEI personalities like Fox News hosts have only become more arrogant and out of touch since the winds of change have occurred in U.S. politics.

    Posted by Paul J. February 28, 09 11:03 AM
  1. LOL @ "Fairness Doctrine" comments--could you guys provide any more proof that certain EEI hosts are specifically programmed to attract the Cromag wingnut constituency? Callahan's main mode of argument is to talk in a sneering voice while parodying his (eternally left wing) targets...that's pretty gripping stuff (if you have the brain of a starling, or a couch).

    Posted by Metco Gorilla John Dennis February 28, 09 01:02 PM
  1. You got it right, Chad. Dennis and Callaghan combine the worst qualities of kids you hated in grammar school -- know-it-alls and playground bullies who never grew up.

    Posted by Jonny Reb February 28, 09 02:46 PM
  1. I think you guys are all little harsh on WEEI and the Big Show. They did a great job yesterday reciting all the NFL transactions off Adam Shefter's blog.

    Posted by WEEIPonzischeme February 28, 09 04:09 PM
  1. The Big show SUCKS! Bunch of moronic aholes who think they're turds don't stink. Do youself a big favor and stop listening to garbage like this. I hope the rating that that constantly tell us are the "best" in the nation drop and they all lose their jobs. Mornons, brainless waste of space. Please EEI fire these dipsticks and put on some compelling sports radio. Oh did I mention the Big show blows chunks!!

    Posted by Michael February 28, 09 05:24 PM
  1. Chad:
    They have to repeat the same thing over and over because the average person only listens 10 minutes. EEI is not perfect, but they crush every other sports talk radio show in the country. Why would they change anything when they are always # 1?

    Posted by Patrick February 28, 09 06:39 PM
  1. What is hilarious is that one of the WEEI hosts with the initials GC either has a crushing sense of guilt / inadequacy to have left several comments posted under 'clever aliases' (eg. Rickg & 'Brian').

    Sad part is though, WEEI for all its faults is far superior to ESPN radio. The antichrist is employed somewhere at ESPN (smart money is on Stu Scott) busily trying to ruin all things sports. Mike & Mike is truly abysmal, contrived shtick that makes the Big Show feel like a breath of fresh air. Don't confuse this for an endorsement of the Big Show; it sucks too. WFAN is better than WEEI, though I choose now to get my info in non-radio format on SOSH.

    Posted by jk February 28, 09 11:07 PM
  1. Dennis & Callahan are the FARTHEST thing from sports radio. If I could go through one morning without that old stick in the mud complaining about every issue a democrat does it will be too soon. Honestly how is that guy still on the air ? I mean I want to hear about how our great locals team did, not how much you hate Obama. Dale & Holly is by far the most entertaining. Perfect mix of news, opinion, and good interviews and passion. Just wish they were on the morning commute. And as far as the Big show goes, I would rather listen to AM music than those idiots yelling over each other. Unreal.

    Posted by Carl. N March 1, 09 01:13 AM
  1. Couldn't say it better myself! I was faithful to WWZN (particularly Eddie Andelman and the Die Hards with Rusillo et al) and was so bummed when that all ended.

    Dale & Holley are fantastic and deserve a lot of credit. The rest of the station is a complete waste of time, in particular The Big Show, where all the hosts do nothing but try and yell over each other and sound like the extent of their knowledge and research comes from what they saw on Sportsdesk on NESN before they went to bed.

    Posted by Joe K. March 1, 09 09:53 AM
  1. If you want to remind yourself of how smart you are, listen to just 5 minutes of Dennis & Callahan. Of course, you'll have to find the 7 minutes, 38 seconds of "content" in that particular hour...

    Nice job, Chad, and well said.

    Posted by somark37 March 1, 09 10:52 AM
  1. Put me down as one who agrees with this article/blog. The story, however, fails to delve deeper into the possible motives for EEI reducing their target-audiience to the LCD, which I believe is to to appeal the radio demographics. I read recently there are 200 consevative radio shows, compared to 50 progressive/liber al ones.
    I believe D&C right-wing rants are intentionally targeting the Lindbaugh populace; Lindbaugh, himsel, being a former Royals broacaster. Call me an elitist, but no one ever suffered by under-estimating the intelligence of the general sports audience, who know the slugging %age of Julio Lugo, but don't know the GPA of their kids.

    Demand quality by talking with your wallets; or in this case, your preset stations.

    Posted by Not your avg Joe the plummer March 1, 09 02:31 PM
  1. WHAT AN ARTICLE! WATCH HOW EEI HANDLES THIS ONE... FINN HAS TURNED THE TABLES AND REVEALED WHO THEY TRULY ARE...ITS GOOD TO SEE SPORTS RADIO GET CRITICIZED...LORD KNOWS THEY DO IT 24/7.

    Posted by Nate March 1, 09 05:22 PM
  1. I am amazed that the defenders of EEI are NOT defending good sports radio, but are defending EEI as a conservative talk radio station.

    For those of you who care, Mr. Finn stated that EEI programming is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, the process of dumbing down the listener/viewer/reader. This is the same value-driven complaint that thoughtful conservative groups have been making for decades. Like these conservative groups, Mr. Finn attacked the programmers who determine the tone, not the listeners who have no choice but to listen; and insisted they raise the tone.

    It is offensive that Sport Shows are being used as stealth venues for political or religious preaching of any kind. I am offended that no one has called out Fox/Murdoch media empire for corrupting sports shows with a continuous barrage of political and religious propaganda. I'm not talking the values of hard work, personal courage, perseverence and keeping clean that sports require. No show, sports or other, in this great nation should be the voice of hate, bigotry, divisiveness which EEI has become. My large family and I will NOT buy anything advertised on this station until it again becomes a sports station, an intelligent one, with humor that has moved beyond adolescence.

    Posted by Giraud March 2, 09 02:06 AM
  1. A great column, but ultimately pointless. Just switch to satellite radio like I did. Ignoring them is the worst you can do to them.

    Posted by Classless March 2, 09 04:17 AM
  1. I think the fact you have over 800 comments is testimony that people have an opinion or are thinking the same way you are. You are one of my favorite sportswriters, and I agree totally. Over the last year or so I have stopped listening to EEI because of the D&C morning show. I like Meter and all, but listening to politics for my 30 min commute is not what I want to hear on a SPORTSRADIO station. Now I just listen to my IPOD, and not bitter Republicans.....Keep up the good work Chad, Billy Simmons can feel you breathing down his neck........

    Posted by Bryan March 2, 09 10:24 AM
  1. Dale and Holly is the only good show on that radio.

    The morning crew is actually worse than the afternoon......and no it has nothing to do with your politics as you guys always seem to play that card. I'm neither a liberal or a democrat. You two idiots are...idiots.

    Posted by matt March 2, 09 11:29 AM
  1. Excellent article! Dale and Holley from 10-2 is the only time I tune in to WEEI for years now. Aside from them, though a life long Boston sports fan, I end up listening to WFAN from New York City. And time of day on WFAN provides real sports talk without the crass garbage. I gave up on the political holier than thous of D&C (even aside from C's garbage, if I had a nickel for every time D pontificated with his pet phrase, "Which, BY THE WAY"...) and the Big Loud and Rude Show ages ago. If four or five hotheads aren't enough, do we have to hear two more from behind the glass??

    Posted by Tom March 2, 09 03:30 PM
  1. Totally agree, Chad. Bravely done. I enjoy Dale and Holley very much, M & B on the weekend are worthy, and Lou Merloni is not just well-informed (as a former MLB player) but quick, articulate, forthright, perceptive, and entertaining--all the ingredients for to a terrific career in audio sports commentary. But after those three, the cast goes downhill steeply. Mike Adams offers essentially nothing, and the afternoon crew scream at and shout over one another endlessly, sending me away to music stations just to recover my basic wellbeing. And Dennis & Callahan seem to be so burned out on the whole topic of sports that they'll eagerly discuss anything else, at endless length--recapping episodes of their favorite TV show, interviewing bad comedians and mass-market suspense novelists, and endlessly sneering at seemingly whoever is not white, male, heterosexual, and politically to the right of Attilla the Hun. The "Gorillas in the Mist" debacle was, alas, by no means all the brainless bigotry they had in the tank. The only sports-related discussion they want to do is whatever they can come up with that is negative and especially if it impugns the integrity of somebody. I love sports so much I used to endure them to get to the interviews with players and coaches, but now I can't bear it. I wait for Dale and Holley, and I get my info from the internet.

    Posted by Elaine Apthorp March 3, 09 02:01 PM
  1. Chad Finn for President!!!!!

    (or Program Director)

    But seriously....best column ever!

    Posted by JD March 3, 09 02:42 PM
  1. Sports talk today does not compare to what it was when I was younger and the simple reason is that we are bombarded with it 24 hours a day. How many times can you beat a dead horse. Back in the 80's and early 90's, sports programming was not as readily available and was not taken for granted. I remember anticipating "Calling All Sports" and shows like it (both via television and radio). these days it is oversaturation and it has really dumbed down the content. So far as WEEI, I still enjoy it. I find Dale and Holley to be very informative. I also enjoy the Big Show, I feel that everyone but Sheppard (he's just a homer rumpswab) brings some knowledge to the table. Yet at times, I find it unlistenable with all the banter and talking over one another. Concerning Dennis and Callahan and their right leaning politics, although at times obnoxious (really that applies to the extremism of Callahan, not so much Dennis), they are by no means racist. As a registered independant voter, I find it funny that as obnoxious as those to the far right can be, those to the left are vicious! If you disagree with them, you are a racist monster. My biggest peeve is really the Planet Mikey Show. I grew up watching he and Bill Pito on NECN and loved the show. However, now he brings absolutely nothing to the table. It is basically him ranting and raving about his hatred for the Yankees, sandwiched by his swooning over female interns. All in all though, I have listened to others around the country and we have it good. I generally work midnights and if you want to talk about shows devoid of contents, try listening to J.T. The Brick or the commentary of Karen K.

    Posted by Mike F. March 3, 09 04:05 PM
  1. woaaa, 859 comments and counting, obviously a lot of opnions about this.
    If there was an alternative, i would listen to it.
    My take:
    D&C: i enjoy the mix of news, politics and sports. But they are just too swarmy and smug. They seem to in love with playing the bad guy - it seems contrived. They were good but have lost their way and will never be back.
    Dale & Holley: best of the bunch
    Big Show: people yelling at each other = unlistenable. i only tune in at the end for the whiner line. how does anyone listen to this, it is beyond me.
    Mike Adams: always liked him, entertaining


    Posted by ogie oglethorpe March 3, 09 04:22 PM
  1. Great article--although I think the early morning on EEI is far worse than the afternoon. I stopped listening to Dennis and Callahan about 2 years ago. Their attitudes and prejudices remind me of the pre-championship loser Boston I grew up in and gladly left. Louise Day Hicks with a boxscore.
    Dale and Holley are a breath of fresh air--the best in the business--after they're done I tune in Francesa--he may be a Yankee booster, but he's smart, fair, and sticks to sports.
    I agree, WEEI's pocket could be picked by a smart, powerful competitor.

    Posted by tomc March 3, 09 08:41 PM
  1. As someone who has lived in the Great Divide known as Connecticut for nearly my entire life, I have been fortunate to have listened to the original all sports radio station - WFAN (AND until recent years was still the best in the country) since the very beginning of its inception in the late 80's. WEEI has never approached the quality in its content that The FAN's loyal listeners have come to expect and enjoy.

    For some reason Ordway and his crew believe they have re-invented the genre. The best show on the station is Dale and Holley, mainly because Michael Holley, though just as annoying as his co-host at times, is not only a sports geek, but is able to expand his perspective on the world outside of his own. Holley is fair and largely objective.

    I wish Chad Finn had mentioned this, but ESPN has done in NYC what they should have done in Boston - built the best sports radio station in the country. 1050, ESPN Radio- NY is a fantastic mix of NY and national sports with high caliber hosts like Max Kellerman, Michael Kay (who can actually be very good in this role despite being as unlistenable in the Yankees broadcast booth as Don Orsillo is in the Red Sox booth) and Brandon Tierney to mix in with the ESPN national shows like Mike & Mike and Tirico and Van Pelt.

    Bottom line - Chad Finn identified the voice of MANY MANY New England sports fans with this blog post and listening to Ordway attempt to refute it on air the other day was embarrassing to listen to. Which only further confirmed what I have believed for some time . . . that WEEI believes their own hype.

    Posted by Johnny BigLeagues March 3, 09 08:51 PM
  1. I forgot to mention - Mike and the Mad Dog was and to some degree still is the standard bearer for sports talk radio. Their split after 19 years prompted weeks and weeks of open crying from sports fans all around the tri-state area. Why such an emotional response? Because the team of Mike Francessa and Chris Russo represented the pairing of two guys who not only are expert in their profession, but also passionate sports fans, an everyman and a elitist. They would prod and praise each other, but always knew when it was time to move on to the next subject. They NEVER beat a topic into the ground, dug it up and beat it again.

    Either one of their solo shows now would be the best show on WEEI. As a Red Sox and Celtics fan I continue to listen to far more Mike Francessa on WFAN and Chris Russo on SiriusXM each week than anything on WEEI. And the main reason is each and every show they cover the top stories ACROSS the world of sports and don't just focus on the one or two local hot button stories for days on end. They do real sports talk and not just pinhead tunnelvision discussions allowing every Boston sports fan who cares to pick up a phone and say the same thing that Sh-yawn from Malden said two days before on a three different shows.

    Posted by Johnny BigLeagues March 3, 09 09:09 PM
  1. EEI is a cesspool, particularly the "big" Show and Dale Arnold, who takes whiny and annoying to a new level. Dale's fake, hearty-guy laughter is particularly repulsive. He wants you to think that he's just like you, while masking the fact that he knows nothing and has no original opinions. Meanwhile, if you like unfunny, uninteresting, and uninformative, then tune in for Ordway's program. It's for you. And how about his lineup of cohosts? Steve "Mr Irrelevant" Buckley, Lou "Trying so hard to fit in and appeal to the demographic" Merloni, Larry "Why am I here?" Johnson, etc. BRAVO CHAD FINN!

    Posted by Tedzo March 4, 09 10:02 AM
  1. I used to listen to WEEI on my commutes in and out the city. The bluster of these self-aggrandizing fools became too much. Does anyone remember how out of control Ted Sarandis was about Belechik before the Pats hired him? He went way out of hi way to castigate him for an entire week. I stopped listening then and didn't stick around to hear if Sarandis ever ate his words. All the shouting over and mockery of callers is pathetic. And my biggest pet peeve? The osmosis and assimilation, like a virus, of all the hosts and callers qualifying their opinions with the phrase, "that being said"...Oh, and where are the hosts of color after Michael Holley? Dennis and Callahan represent the worst aspects of our narrow new england provincialism….

    Posted by soteros March 4, 09 10:42 AM
  1. great article and comments. the racist, sexist, homophobic rants on weei have driven me away, which totally sucks because i love listening to good sports talk. dale and holley are professional, knowledgeable, and respectful, and the only 'eei show i'll listen to anymore, but since i'm completely outside the station's targeted demographic, they could care less. at least i know that if i want offensive, obnoxious yammering about right-wing politics and food, i' can always tune in to the morning and drive-time shows.

    Posted by sports babe March 4, 09 12:07 PM
  1. And how contrived is that booth announcer they employ to intro each show. I mean is that really necessary? That announcer does not excite me, he simply annoys me. I've already sat through 20 minutes of commercials and promos, the same exact sports update I heard just before the endless commercial break and now I've got to listen to an over the top FM voice booth announcer try to sound hip and cool while stating the same exact thing the host of the show will state once he is finally allowed to start his show.

    I'm actually realizing how much I HATE WEEI the more I write here.

    Again, I'm a Boston sports fan who'd rather listen to NY sports radio because it is far better than what is available in Boston. And I'm not alone. One of my best friends is a guy who grew up in Hingham and HATES to listen to EEI. He listens to Francessa each afternoon as well.

    BTW, I also have to give credit to John Ryder in the role of Celtics pre and post-game wrap ups and call-ins. He does an exceptional job handling the hardcore Celts fans and keeping us satiated while not alienating the fair-weather Celts fans who have come out of no where in the last 18 months.

    Posted by Johnny BigLeagues March 4, 09 03:48 PM
  1. BRAVO, CHAD.

    Posted by Anonymous March 4, 09 09:40 PM
  1. Couldn't agree more. Here in the western part of the state, there's no alternative until you get near the CT border. Essentially, I listen for the flash and then switch stations. WEEI is so bad it makes even listening to NY sports talk on The FAN sound good. Thank God for Dale and Holley. D&C + Big Show please leave.

    Posted by Sam March 9, 09 09:32 AM
  1. Chad, for the sake of everyone here who agreed with your opinions I am glad you were able to get this column published before the OT's demise. You won't be surprised to hear that this morning D&C were mocking what you had said about their show. They pretended to undergo a format change and tried being a wacky, zany 'morning zoo' program with time checks, traffic reports and serious sports talk. And of course they also managed to get in a few shots about the end of OT. It's a good thing you've still got TATB as your voicebox, keep up the good work there. Unfortunately the brash behemoth of sportsradio 'wins' yet again.

    Posted by TO March 10, 09 10:22 AM
  1. Chad soory it took me so long to see this But I am a first timer at this site; that being said thank God you wrote what most of us are thinking. 20 minutes of commercials on Weei, 5 minute intro 6 minutes of talk and 20 more minutes of commercials. Say what you want about Felger but he speaks his mind.

    Posted by Bill Awnry July 10, 09 11:31 AM
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