CNN legal analyst Areva Martin thought she was talking to a white man Tuesday while appearing as a guest on David Webb’s SiriusXM radio show.
When Webb, a Fox Nation host and frequent Fox News contributor, said he considered his qualifications more important than his skin color when applying to media jobs, Martin accused him of exercising white privilege.
But there was a problem with that sentiment, as Webb quickly pointed out:
“Areva, I hate to break it to you, but you should’ve been better prepped,” he responded. “I’m black.”
— SiriusXM Patriot (@SiriusXMPatriot) January 15, 2019
The exchange was posted to Twitter by Webb on Tuesday afternoon. He is heard in the interview saying, “I’ve chosen to cross different parts of the media world, done the work so that I’m qualified to be in each one; I never considered my color the issue; I considered my qualifications the issue.”
Martin responds: “Well, David, that’s a whole other long conversation about white privilege, the things that you have the privilege of doing, that people of color don’t have the privilege of.”
“How do I have the privilege of white privilege?” Webb asks.
“David, by virtue of being a white male you have white privilege. This whole long conversation, I don’t have time to get into -”
Webb then interrupts her to let her know he’s a black man, causing Martin to take a pause.
“You see, you went to white privilege; this is the falsehood in this,” Webb replies. “You went immediately with an assumption. Your people, obviously, or you didn’t look.
Martin apologizes repeatedly for her false accusation, adding that “her people” gave her the wrong information.
“You’re talking to a black man … who started out in rock radio in Boston, who crossed the paths into hip-hop, rebuilding one of the greatest black stations in America and went on to work at Fox News where I’m told apparently blacks aren’t supposed to work, but yet, you come with this assumption and you go to white privilege,” Webb says. “That’s actually insulting.”
Martin has not publicly acknowledged the incident. A spokeswoman for Martin declined to comment.
After the interview, Webb made light of Martin’s gaffe by posting photos of himself with white men, writing on Twitter: “Just two guys showing their #WhitePrivelege.”
— David Webb (@davidwebbshow) January 15, 2019
The exchange became a popular topic on Fox News, where Tucker Carlson discussed it Tuesday night, shortly before Webb appeared on’The Ingraham Angle.” The next morning, he was back on Fox to discuss the incident with “Fox and Friends,” telling the hosts that white privilege is a “false narrative.”
“There is no such thing as white privilege,” Webb said. “There’s earned privilege in life, that you work for. There are those who may have a form of privilege that they exert … in the form of influence.”
If a conservative analyst had made the same mistake as Martin, there would be calls for that person to be fired, Webb said.He said he has invited Martin back to his show to “have a longer conversation about white privilege.”
“Our skin’s an organ – it doesn’t think or formulate ideas, it just says: This is a result of your parentage,” he said.
“She got caught,” he said of Martin, but added: “I have no reason to diss her.”
In addition to his roles with SiriusXM and Fox Nation, Webb is also a contributor to Fox News, the Hill and Breitbart News, according to his website.